i'm in it :) or at least from 2007-2009. i almost didn't believe it, but i looked at the print at my local public library and sure enough
- Christina Pikas
Congrats. I'm not surprised (either for you or for Christina); I think Marquis has a good methodology for finding reasonably-prominent people. Full disclosure: I was in the print version 2001-2004 (and, weirdly, WW/Science & Engineering 2005-06), and once you're in, you're always in the online version.
- Walt Crawford
Heck, even /I/ am in there. Go ahead and add your name... Now, I just need to remember to add it to my CV. Will my boss be impressed? Not sure.
- Joe....
That's kind of my question, Joe. Are these things still relevant the way they were even 5-10 years ago? I'm not sure. I tend to think not, but I'm open to being told I'm dumb.
- lris
Joe: I'd definitely add it to your CV. Coming from an impartial source not connected to the field, it's a fairly good indicator that you've done worthwhile things that have been noticed widely.
- Walt Crawford
i was in this years ago. maybe now i can qualify for their publication, "who was who in america"?
- Marie is organized.
I think that the people who think I'm somebody already know me.
- lris
Marie: You have to die for that one, which you may not want to do just yet. But you're probably still there--in the online version, which is increasingly what's likely to get used.
- Walt Crawford
I owe Iris an apology, I wasn't trying to slight you in anyway...I misread and thought it was one of those scam ones that goes around periodically and it's obviously not. So congrats on the honor!
- Sir Shuping
Nah, no problem Andrews. I didn't feel slighted. The "this makes me giggle" part of the post was me thinking that the whole thing was a little odd.
- lris
I got that email too, reported it as spam. I think I might have done it back in high school, though.
- Mr. Gunn
I'm featured in the abridged version of that. It's called "Who?"
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
I got one of those last year, and finally called to make sure it wasn't a scam. I think it would have been more amusing to be in Jack's "Who?" publication!
- Galadriel C.
Mr. G et al (and I'm sure Iris knows this): It's simple enough. If it's from Marquis, it's legit. If it's not...then look real hard.
- Walt Crawford
Many of you know I've been working with Mendeley as a sort of ambassador/community liaison. I started this because I've always felt a little shut out from contributing to open science/open access/open data because I don't work for a publisher, don't really write code, and wasn't in a job where I could openly share data. This was a way to influence how things develop by promoting the people who "get it".
- Mr. Gunn
I had to quit for the "real job" a little while back and found not only that I had more time to work for Mendeley, but that I started getting other offers/opportunities also.
- Mr. Gunn
Now I've got a newborn daughter and am liking the time I can spend at home with her, which raises the following conundrum: Can I do more of this community liaison work for companies that support/promote open access and put my research career on hold, or is there not any future in this?
- Mr. Gunn
Can I trust the friends and colleagues I've met on here to be able to have a real discussion with me, keep me honest, and tell me if I'm backing the wrong horse as I take on more clients, or would I be considered a sell-out? Would people believe that my opinions still come from me and my experiences, or would people just think "You're only saying/supporting that because they're paying...
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- Mr. Gunn
Do you think there's room to grow in this kind of role or am I just wishfully thinking that I can make my own job in this tough economy and get to spend time with my daughter too?
- Mr. Gunn
I really believe this is a way I can contribute to changing how science is being done, opening up the process, disintermediating scientific discovery, and all those noble sounding things, but do you buy it, or do you think I'll not only become corrupted by money but lose my relevance because I'm not really doing science anymore?
- Mr. Gunn
Can I help companies that don't quite get it to improve and become better and more responsive to their community of users or will I lose touch?
- Mr. Gunn
I will be saying nothing works better than inspiring people by setting examples, I will not go with holding my research career even it is not working well as long as I have passion for discovering something. But there are certain realities and money is one of them. Ambassador/community liaisoning is other way to contribute back to the science, but it will be too early to give up your...
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- Abhishek Tiwari
Mr. Gunn. You can absolutely do so, but as you note, you cannot do this with one client. It will have to be a consulting/pundit role (you should probably have a chat with Paul Miller at some point http://cloudofdata.com). The life science industry will be challenging given the limited opportunities, and in this economy, this will not be a walk in the park. As to whether you have to be...
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- Deepak Singh
And we'll tell you if you're being an idiot. It also depends on what you really want to earn. You're not going to get rich doing this, at least not quickly.
- Deepak Singh
Abhishek, I could cite all the times when I've recommended Papers or Zotero instead because it really was better for what the person was looking for as evidence that I don't always have to say what the official line is, but that wouldn't illustrate all the discussions I've had where the company point of view _became_ my point of view. This is exactly the kind of discussion I want to be...
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- Mr. Gunn
Thanks Deepak. I know you will, and I'm not looking to get rich. I'm looking to do work for people I believe it, be a force for good, and at least for the moment, spend more time at home with my daughter.
- Mr. Gunn
Mr. Gunn, it will only taint it if you let it, although there will people who'll always be skeptical. As long as you are honest and present your point of view rationally, you'll be fine
- Deepak Singh
I'd like to think that being open and transparent online helps illustrate my biases, too.
- Mr. Gunn
Way outside my area of expertise, but I would think the "consulting/pundit" thing that Deepak mentions would involve lots of travel, especially to start. Not sure how conducive that is to spending more time at home...
- Andrew Su
Andrew, missed that bit. There would be a fair bit of travel
- Deepak Singh
from iPhone
Tough call MrG. I'm not concerned about you selling out, plus I will call you out if I think you are sliding into that trap (as, I'm sure, will the rest of the FF posse). My larger concern would be whether you can make a living that way. Is there a more regular (but part-time) gig that you could get to buffer the difficulties of forging a new path? For instance, do you write easily and...
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- Bill Hooker
Having a part-time gig would allow you more freedom to take risks and experiment, and could be phased out as and when your liaison/consulting work grew.
- Bill Hooker
Bill, that's a really great idea. My current commitments are only part-time, so having something more steady would both help the bottom line and insulate me from selling-out criticism - "I don't need to do this." Please, put me in touch.
- Mr. Gunn
the ultimate evidence for or against bias is behavior, would such a position restrict or inhibit assuming a critical perspective?
- Mike Chelen
What fun would that be, Mike? I just wanted to do a sanity check against my friends and colleagues here to make sure that at least some of them would promise to call me out if I started to not make any sense or drift away from the principles of openness this community takes as a fundamental principle.
- Mr. Gunn
Interesting situation! My take is that people who have no history of interaction with you, will not spend a lot of time looking you up online. As soon as they know you're being paid to do this, you'll be a sales rep - which means there isn't even any need to look you up, they already know who/what you are. Thus, IMHO, no online history will get you out of the sales rep box.
- Björn Brembs
I agree with Bill's suggestion, and also his non-worry about bias. Or rather, we're all biased, but you don't come across as a sell-out company mouthpiece to those who know you, so you can let that slide. Bjorn isn't tender, but he's right. Either way, you won't change it by adding on more opportunities to be a facilitator. And forging your own path to be more with your family - having been there, I would say you won't regret it later. One always has career regrets, but that's because we only have one life.
- Heather
Mr. Gunn. A full time liaison for a company will effectively make you sort of a sales rep. I have been a sales rep myself - which was a valuable learning experience, but I suspect, like me, not one you would fit comfortable into for a longer period of time (several years). When I left university, my friends and colleagues told me that I had a time-limit of 1-2 years to get back into...
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- Nils Reinton
Thanks, Nils, Heather, Björn. My intent is not to work full-time for a specific company, and I'm not doing that now. My intent is also to talk more about ideas and trends and less about specific products. Although I do spend a fair amount of time recommending Mendeley, I think Zotero shares their mission and I just personally prefer Mendeley. I used Zotero to write my first paper and it came down to me just wanting a desktop, full-screen app instead of their browser add on.
- Mr. Gunn
Björn - We all have our various reasons to believe what we do and say what we do. In my role, I'm not being paid to say anything or to have a certain opinion. In fact, I think where I disagree with the Mendeley guys is more valuable to them than where I agree, because what they're basically paying me for is my insights as a scientist who knows the field and keeps current with...
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- Mr. Gunn
I know I can't speak for anyone, and I'm not appointing myself spokesperson, but if I spend a lot of time listening to, talking about, and synthesizing ideas, and I can also effectively market those ideas to people who need to hear them (that is, companies who want to listen and adapt), isn't that a win? Couldn't that be my way to make a positive contribution to open access and linked data and personalized medicine and these causes that I already believe passionately in?
- Mr. Gunn
"Couldn't that be my way to make a positive contribution to open access and linked data and personalized medicine and these causes that I already believe passionately in?" YES, absolutely, you are already doing this very well. If you can make a living out of it, I salute you :-)
- Nils Reinton
Perhaps consider not just consultancy for companies, but also undertake work for public sector agencies (major libraries or funders), charities or not-for-profit companies.
- Frank Norman
Mr. Gunn - sure I think such a person would definitely be worthwhile to us! I was referring to people who do not know you: if you approach them and tell them you work for company X, my bet is that most of them will think "ah, he's a failed scientist trying to get me to use their products". Of course, this doesn't stop people from using company X's products (or sales reps would die out...
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- Björn Brembs
this is a great thread, Mr. Gunn, cheers for starting it, very interesting points, everyone; I would like to second Nils and Frank, and I think that some journals might also be interested in your advice (and community liaison work) and that this would certainly be a great service for anyone near to being an OA and linked data addict - isn't this a pretty wide range of users? we might create a list of arguments that you might wish to choose from when talking to journal publishers - test them on me ;-)
- Claudia Koltzenburg
Mr Gunn...you might know me from the ChemSpider system. For almost 3 years ChemSpider was run as a "for the community" project at my cost. i.e. My wife and kids lost a lot of access to me, despite the fact that I worked from home. It did NOT pay any bills...it just about covered costs. No, I was a consultant for a number of companies and worked hard for them, traveled a lot and used my...
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- Antony Williams
OT b/c it's blog not job related *but* I would cite this FF thread at some stage in this one. http://ff.im/YB4p from Feb '09.
- Graham Steel
Nils, thanks! Frank - that's a great idea. Can anyone put me in touch with someone at one of those agencies/companies? Björn - I see what you mean. Online rep doesn't translate offline automatically. Claudia - I've got a series of arguments, gleaned over the years from participation here and elsewhere. Can I send you an email? Antony - yes, I'm familiar with your work, and I have a...
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- Mr. Gunn
Mr. Gunn, one thing I've noticed in recent conversation with doctors (not academic MDs) is that most do not know much at all about OA, aren't sure what to make of a statistics-rich, data-driven science environment (or how to connect that data to actual human patients), and are leery about packages being hawked to them. Many are similar to me in age, meaning they didn't grow up in a...
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- Mickey Schafer
Well, I see myself being able to help in explaining these issues, but I don't think I'd get too far hawking products. I'm just not that kind of person.
- Mr. Gunn
Yeah, I just don't think I'm the salesman type. I think I'm more effective developing ideas than products.
- Mr. Gunn
You don't have to be a salesman to develop products. Product development requires a better understanding of customer needs than anything else out there. Being a product manager was one of the most satisfying jobs of my life
- Deepak Singh
from IM
Mr. Gunn -- I wasn't suggesting that you represent product -- actually, I was thinking more in terms of a "knowledge broker" -- the slow adoption of some technologies (whatever they may be) is often b/c the persons needing the tools don't know how to evaluate them -- sometimes, they may not know how to evaluate their own needs. Having an expert who can help someone understand the landscape, help them make choices based on needs (as opposed to sales pitches) is a very valuable resource. Just a thought!
- Mickey Schafer
Another area that is worth looking at, though probably represents a short term play, is that there are lots of people out there putting out calls for tenders to do small research projects in the Social Media/Publishing/Data/Science space. Again its patchy, and not regular but with some reliable money coming in from e.g. editing and writing this kind of work could do two things, firstly...
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- Cameron Neylon
MrG, did you get my email? I sent it to a gmail address that I have listed for you in my address book.
- Bill Hooker
Yes, I got the one you sent and I really appreciate it. I do plan to follow up when I get back into town.
- Mr. Gunn
I've been a volunteer musician for the Canadian Armed Forces, off and on, for 20 years or so... but I never properly enlisted (poor choices in the 90s lol)
- T. Brent, technopeasant
Isn't James (Collide) in the army? Haven't seen him around lately though
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
Shey, yes! IIRC, he is deployed somewhere right now. Edit: Looks like he posted as recently as Monday. Reading his feed, it looks like he's at Norfolk Naval Base - http://friendfeed.com/colide81
- Rochelle
7.5 years in the Air Force...heh just saw that Rochelle already named me. Thanks :) And thanks to all who are serving and who have ever served to protect our freedoms.
- Alex Scoble
Hope you cheer up soon, Cristo! Things to be thankful for: 1. You're smart, funny. 2. You have a kick-ass new TV. 3. You can bait Alex S. anytime you put your mind to it.
- Stephen Mack
Thanks Stephen. I'm not really sure what to call this emotion, or if cheering up is the right remedy.
- Cristo
Jimminy, maybe. But I'm still interested in lots of things, so not quite.
- Cristo
I'm interested in a lot of things, but I'm bored right now. I have several interesting projects to work on, but they just aren't compelling me to do so right now.
- Jimminy
it was a gray day here but nice and crisp and I feed the birds and squirrels.........
- VAL D.
Feels like it though and that is enough to trigger it. The time changed. Leave work when its dark and its colder and the air is crisp... Seems like Winter is here. The leaves are all fallen or are in the process of falling. Xmas decor is being put up everywhere.
- CW™
Cristo, just remember that, when you're feeling down, it's always darkest before it goes completely black.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
from fftogo
Sounds like the solution is to go to Kauai.
- Cristo
Kalalau trail and helicopter tour pictures or it didn't happen
- Eric Logan
I'm philosophically opposed to the helicopters over Kauai. Kalalau trail is always good though.
- Cristo
I highly recommend going to Kauai. We just got back. We shouldn't have left. Pics of the Kalilau Trail: http://www.flickr.com/photos... Storm clouds on Kauai are really pretty. We pretty much decided on this trip that when we're ready to retire (hopefully early) we'll be in Kauai.
- Jason Wehmhoener
The sales person told me that coming to Kauai and not taking a helicopter tour is like going to see the Sistine chapel and not looking up. He sold me and I did it twice. Next time I get there I am hiking to the valley and camping at least one night.
- Eric Logan
No offense, but when I'm hiking the trails there, the last thing I want is to hear helicopters overhead.. It makes me sad. Taking a helicopter ride there would be the height of hypocrisy for me.
- Cristo
Hoo boy, I must be tired. that a and that i make a big difference. Kalilau is a nice easy day hike. Kalalau we still haven't done, but I am looking forward to it.
- Jason Wehmhoener
I've seen a lot of people in these funks lately... me included.
- SAM
Still down. I wonder if drinking or maybe ordering pizza will help. :(
- Cristo
I've tried it tonight... not so bad actually.
- SAM
Yeah, I think I'm going to walk down, drink a beer, and pick up a pizza.
- Cristo
Hope it helps... let us know how it goes. (You live alone?)
- SAM
Cause if so... don't forget to bring back some pie... doing good feels good too. (wonders why your recent love-fest on FF hasn't cheered you up a bit too?)
- SAM
SAM, I'm married, but my wife is out of town tonight.
- Cristo
I felt the funk today too. I had to get out.
- Rodfather
Dude, you need to get hi, play Halo, and go out for a run. Always works. Try a shower too.
- Maxamad
GO OUT!!! Next post should say "via iPhone"... You live in SF correct? What hood? That town has some good eats... have some... enjoy beverage... (then get hi and play halo :))
- SAM
In that spot... I prefer to read. Gets me outside myself for a bit. Or write, which delves me deeper into it, until it's exhausted. Another beer or two tonight... then getting up as early as feasible to run in the morning=best try.
- SAM
I don't usually get joy in paying bills (other than grateful that I can and still have some wool money left) but realizing that I can get my credit card paid off by the end of the month (which means braces = totally paid for) ....that's some serious joy.
"Directus Navigation introduced a car rear view mirror with built-in touch-screen GPS navigation. The $799 rear view mirror also includes wireless Bluetooth and backup camera capability."
- Alan Cheslow
from Bookmarklet
It should be a heads-up display on the windshield. Looking too long at a GPS in your rear-view means you're not watching the road ahead. They could angle it toward the passenger, but then the thousands of solo drivers in California wouldn't invest in one.
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
You know what's scary? Someone will actually buy this and be out there on the roads with it…
- Glen Campbell, B.A.
They're not holes, an english muffin simply has a textured surface. it's like taking a regular muffin and cutting it in half.
- Bryce, Low in Sodium
Well, maybe that manufacturer in the States makes a product called 'English Muffins' that is actually I hybrid of that and a crumpet but I'm standing right in front of the English Muffin section of my local supermarket. 4 brands, 12 varieties, no holes. Crumpets are right next to them... holes
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
It's nooks and crannies. Thomas tricked us all of our American lives. Wow. I feel very...not sure how I feel.
- Mona Nomura
There needs to be distinction made between "holes" and "nooks and crannies".
- Curtiss Grymala
Crumpets have holes that go all the way through. English muffins have "nooks and crannies" that are only evident after you've cut them in half.
- Curtiss Grymala
To paraphrase Linus, the hole in crumpets is what let's all the flavor leak out.
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
So basically you are the nerdiest mountain man in all of Australia? I can dig it.
- Sparky, a big deal
Find a mo or other disguise for your transformer and take a pic.
- Josh Haley
I would just like to mention that I saw Rochelle's post at 5am this morning (10 hours ago). I have been bugging Rach to go to the shops all day JUST for this shot, which she took in the middle of a crowded supermarket... My wife FTW!
- Johnny Worthington
I was just at the store this afternoon. Should have bought myself some english muffins. I would wake up early if it meant eating those! :)
- Jon, the Beartato of FF
Trader Joe's carries crumpets (or at least they used to) so you can make a side-by-side comparison. To me it looks like what Australians call English muffins and what we call English muffins are the same.
- Spidra Webster
I've still never tried English Muffins. They sell them here in Canada but I never had them in England - they don't exist there!
- WorldofHiglet
Crumpet toast is awesome. That is all
- Glenn Slaven
though one thing I miss here is oven bottoms. Now, *they* were really good....
- WorldofHiglet
"Conservative commentators are ratcheting up anti-Muslim rhetoric in the wake of last week's Fort Hood massacre, with televangelist Pat Robertson leading the way with a declaration that Islam is "not a religion," but a "political system" bent on destroying all the world's governments. In a commentary on his show, The 700 Club, Robertson noted that the alleged shooter in the Fort Hood massacre, Nidal Malik Hasan, had come to the attention of authorities prior to the rampage by emailing a radical cleric and trying to contact Al Qaeda. "Nobody wanted to go after him because of political correctness," Robertson said on Monday. "We just don't talk about somebody's quote 'religion,' even if the religion involved beheading infidels and pouring boiling oil down their throats." Robertson said Islam should be treated like a fringe political movement."
- Steven Perez
from Bookmarklet
Robertson is one to talk. What does he think his calling for Chavez's murder should result in?
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
""We just don't talk about somebody's quote 'religion,' even if the religion involved beheading infidels and pouring boiling oil down their throats."" ??? Because all of the other methods of execution count since they're dispensed by xtian ilk? Pffft -- Robertson is an extremist himself.
- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
I'm pretty disappointed in Evernote for not releasing a client for Android at this point. Their big excuse before was that they were waiting on a new phone to be released before they developed something native. Well, the Droid is out now, and seems to be a bigger deal than the Palm Pre... but no Android app. You guys let me down, Evernote. :(
I know, just disappointed because there were so many people who were upset that they hadn't released for the Android and there was a big todo when they announced the reason why, basically because they wanted to "piggyback" on the release of a phone... well, here's a phone, and no release... I guess it was just a bluff.
- Her Lindsay-ness
Or it's possible that software release schedules aren't tied tightly to the whims of a random US mobile network. Sheesh.
- jakebf
from iPhone
You can use pixelpipe.com for Evernote. Open the Android Market from your handset, search for Pixelpipe, and install.
- compwoman
@jakebf - as I tried to explain (twice), Evernote's team SAID that releases were tied to phone hardware release schedule... not sure why you didn't get the point there.
- Her Lindsay-ness
@compwoman - I tried PixelPipe and didn't like it... my Gmail on the phone works better for me than Pixelpipe did for putting stuff into Evernote for me. The mobile web app Evernote offers isn't awful but it is missing a lot of functionality that a native app would provide. Workarounds are, well, workarounds, and not as good.
- Her Lindsay-ness
Lindsay, they've had a pretty ok Beta release for about 6 months now, didn't you notice I quit chirpping about them not having one?
- Matthew DeVries
Depends on the brand of printer. My Samsung ML-2010 laser printer was picked up right away and functions flawlessly. You might need to enable 3rd party repositories in your software sources.
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
I'm cool with them except for when they try to destroy my marriage. Some of them are good friends and all (relatives, too), but this is unacceptable.
- Ha3rvey (not Akiva)
Well, I don't actually use a terabyte, but I have been thinking on how to add a terabyte of swap to my desktop without making it slow.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
While we live in a world where we worship perfection; we are know-it-alls who have all the answers to all the questions, bigger is better, and the haves rule over have-nots, I am comfortable in my flaws, I relish asking why, and acknowledge my mistakes. I am not perfect. I am shaped by my life's experiences.
we are just what we are, somethimes, the singular think is who i'm, thats all, so romantic
- yedi
And I don't know why I got all philosophical, but there you go.
- Derrick
Us brits like nothing better than to see apparent perfection fall from grace whilst blaming others for our own lack of perfection. We try not to talk about it though :-)
- Slippy "Threadsbane" Lane
Alex, I think you'd be hard pressed to find an English word where the vowels are pronounced differently and they ARE stand alone.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
"English words where the same single vowel are pronounced differently"? Should be "...is pronounced..." Vowel is singular. <grammar nazis rule>
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
This reminds me of a book by a poet friend of mine: "Eunoia" One chapter for each vowel, and all words in that chapter contain only that vowel e.g. 'e' has only words with 'e' in it. A fun read! http://www.chbooks.com/catalog...
- T. Brent, technopeasant
Awesome. Heard of it, but never read/seen it... and it sounds well-written, too. Thanks, Micah. :)
- T. Brent, technopeasant
You are most welcome. Reading it is like walking in an unfamiliar room and something seems really off; it doesn't seem like any one thing - just everything. Anyway, enjoy :)
- Micah Wittman