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Lisa Hinchliffe
Yesterday's online scholarly presence workshop (that I taught) leads me to think ResearchGate may be one of the best things to ever happen for institutional repositories. *IF* librarians can get avoid "shaming" researchers for using RG and instead create workflows that help researchers get things into RG and IRs efficiently. Anyone working on this?
why RG and not - jambina from iPhone
I'm still waiting on a way to get an article into Dspace w/o it taking 10 pages of things to fill out. - Hedgehog from Android
Wow, I totally did not get that ResearchGate was the name of a product rather than the name of a scandal involving research (a la "watergate"). I think they need a new name! - lris
*giggling* *hadn't thought of that one* - RepoRat
Yeah, I think at minimum ResearchGate provides us with an example of how you can actually get researchers interested in making their publications available. --Re getting things into IRs efficiently, see Symplectic Elements - designed by researchers for researchers, and researchers do indeed love it; I think the research office is pretty happy with it too; a caveat that the company... more... - Deborah Fitchett
Oh, workshop was on more than RG but everyone who came had a RG account already so that is what we ended up talking about more. Not meant to be commentary on Academia. edu. - Lisa Hinchliffe
So, is anyone working on the RG (or crosswalk? It is seriously easier to manage both RG and for myself than to work through depositing things in our IR ... - Lisa Hinchliffe's use of .edu top-level domain seems intentionally misleading - JffKrlsn from Android
I'm working right now with a faculty member who has a full publication list in ResearchGate that we're trying to get into our IR instead. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be any way to export from ResearchGate to make this easier. - kristin buxton
The new Project Information Literacy report mentions ResearchGate as a source graduates use. - barbara fister
So, let's pretend you are a small college with no archivist, and minimal tech support, but you have about 1200 photos scanned on drives. And you want to put them into an online gallery for public display. What would you use to do that?
Omeka seems like a good candidate. It's much like WordPress in that there's a hosted version for not much money, so you wouldn't have to do the tech support. It's good with metadata, and you can upload your collection and then configure the items into online exhibits to your heart's content. - lris
I second Omeka. We are one such example, and an intern has been doing this for us. I'm pretty sure the metadata is borked, but no one is going to care that much, or we can go in and fix it (when we have time and staff! Ha! Right!) later.... - Julie Kane
ayup, Omeka. - jambina
Omeka. I mean, if you already have access to something consortially, use that because it'll cut your maintenance needs, but if not, Omeka. See if the hosted version is hefty enough for you. - RepoRat
We are using ContentDM because it's hosted elsewhere and is part of our existing WorldCat subscriptions. Because we have zero funds and are trying to get *something* out there. - ~Courtney F
Is there a state thing you could load them into? - bentley
Yes, Omeka. There are some also neat plugins you can add later if you're feeling fancy or somebody wants to play around with timelines and mapping tools. The basic interface is pretty simple and it has a nice viewer. - kaijsa
I know Lyrasis is working on a couple of things in this arena. No idea of what they're going to use or cost though - Sir Shuping is just sir
Thanks everyone. When I had an archivist he did a self hosted omeka install, but that server is currently borked and campus IT is just as thin as we are, so I haven't asked for fixing. I'll look into the hosted version. - Jenica from iPhone
internet archive seems worth investigating given the circumstances you describe - JffKrlsn from Flucso
Didn't someone post recently about Internet Archive digitization grants, or something like that? Found it: - bentley
For non-archivally-safe options, maybe Flickr or Tumblr? At least the IT demand is minimal. - barbara fister
Omeka isn't archivally safe, for that matter. - RepoRat
At least it ain't owned by Yahoo, which is a plus. - barbara fister
lolyep - RepoRat
Took possession today of 860gb of our college's student newspaper. Wish me luck.
good night, how long have they been publishing? - RepoRat
Started in 1926. This goes through 2010, after that we were able to confirm we had all PDFs. - JffKrlsn
Wow. - bentley
Oh did I say 26? I meant 1923... do I have to look at all of them? This was more fun when it was an idea. - JffKrlsn
Rachel Walden
Anybody have experience with Alma and Primo? Apparently we're moving to that.
Yup! There's several of us who either have moved or are in process. We've got a group here: - Kirsten
Welcome to the madness! - Jen
Oh, awesome, thank you! - Rachel Walden
We have it - I'm starting to learn all about it - copystar
We're considering it. - lris
We're in the middle of implementation with plans to go live in July. - Galadriel C.
We went live in December and are having ALL KINDS of problems. :-( - Megan loves summer
We rejected it. - JffKrlsn from Android
What did you select in its place? - lris
we're moving to it too - weelibrarian
We would have gone with it two years ago, but the cost was prohibitive. Keeping what we had for now. - Holly's favorite Anna
We went live with Alma/Primo at end of August and it's working well. Teething problems of course and minor bugs but very little of that is at all visible to the enduser. - Deborah Fitchett
Iris, in its place we selected nothing... we closed out our process and started over. Several months later we are recommending Sierra (more update than migration--we currently use Millennium and they didn't change much), and will be using EDS for the public interface; OPAC will still exist but be very much in the background, not easy to find. - JffKrlsn
Ah, ok. If you'd be willing to tell me more about what made you turn away, I would really like to hear it: ijastram at - lris
Do any of your printers in the library support airprint/cloudprint - printing from ipads etc.
we have a mobile print service - students can use it from iPads, phones, laptops, whatever. - ellbeecee
I was recently at Palo Alto public library and they have Google cloudprint set up... - JffKrlsn from Android
LSW roll call! Go!
I especially encourage those who might be quietly reading out there or might be new to say howdy. - maʀtha
👋 - Julian
Martha, medlib in an academic library with strong focus on serving external community as well as the university. Dark chocolate, yes anchovies on pizza, don't call me on the phone, dogs love me, cats not so much, I like winter. - maʀtha
Dorothea, instructor in a library school. Dark chocolate, vegetarian pizza hold the mushrooms, PLEASE don't call me, cat person, winter's okay except when it's injurious. - RepoRat
Jenica, director of two academic libraries at a small SUNY in upstate new york, and coordinator of our campus's upcoming bicentennial celebrations. Dark chocolate (intense orange is my jam), pizza is best with pepperoni, i only answer the phone for family, my dog weighs more than my child and my cats combined, and I live in the land of perpetual winter so I try not to whine. - Jenica
Science & engineering librarian at York University in Toronto, the largest university you've never heard of. Currently on sabbatical. Interested in open access and its related ideas. As well as sf, horror, mysteries, popular science writing, classic rock, blues, jazz and related genres. Oh yeah, a strange obsession with science-themed graphic novels. - John Dupuis
Laura, middle management at a public library (dear God, how did that happen?). Dark chocolate. I am actually sick of pizza. I envy you people who can get away without using the phone. I love winter, and I am getting a new winter coat for the first time in 22 years. - laura x
Catherine, reference & instruction librarian at Saint Mary's College. No, not that St. Mary's. The other one. No, not that one either. The one that's across the street from Notre Dame. Pizza: yes. Chocolate: yes. New cat: yes. Winter: yes. Dumbphone: yes. - Catherine Pellegrino
Julian, working for a major vendor (not in Libraryland; hint: think about bridges...). Apizza > pizza, good dark chocolate (of course), Android, Linux, likes other people's cats. I take your calls every day. I like October. - Julian
Christina. Librarian in a research lab and phd student. Any kind but white chocolate is fine with me. Have a big dog and toddler twins. - Christina Pikas from iPhone
Mary Carmen, former academic library administrator. I now manage the care and feeding of one small human and am currently incubating another one. I actually never answer my phone. Sesame Street is my jam. If the television is on, it's tuned to Sprout. When I can actually eat food, pizza is number one, although I've been very into bagels lately. Dark chocolate. 3 cats. I miss winter. - Mary Carmen
Hello lurker Martha! *waves* - maʀtha
Walt, mostly-retired (except for research/writing) former library professional/non-librarian. Omnivore. Dark chocolate. Landline phone if we recognize the number (the flipphone's almost never on). Mild OCD-like attitude on providing facts to flesh out OA and other debates. My 15 minutes were about 20 years ago. Two cats. California native and enjoy the weather (esp. if we get more rain/snow this year). - Walt Crawford
Good work, people! I would like to hear from more usual and unusual suspects, please. - maʀtha
Sarah, currently Scholarly Communications Librarian at large public research university but soon to be Associate Dean at large private research university library. All chocolate except bad chocolate. My spouse and I make our own sausage. Three cats and a dog. And let's just say that I'm very happy to be moving about as far south as you can go in the US! Also, hate the phone but am getting better at it because I have to. - Sarah
Congratulations, Sarah! Very cool. - maʀtha
Pete. Law and Social Sciences information adviser at Sheffield Hallam University. My main professional contribution is library themed silly songs. - Pete
Rochelle, adult public services manager at a public library. Cat wrangler. I have developed a bedtime ritual of listening to old episodes of Gunsmoke at I seldom stay awake to hear the ending, but it's very soothing. I get a huge kick out of supporting my staff in developing and implementing their awesome ideas. Migraines are my unfortunate jam. - Rochelle *boom* Hartman
Laura. Currently Team Leader for Social Science, Business & Education at large research university library. Come January 1, the Head, Research & Engagement with the same employer. No kids, no pets, no spouse, though I'd like a cat. I just haven't convinced myself to pay the pet deposit at my apartment complex. - ellbeecee
Laurabrarian tally 2 and counting! - maʀtha
Jaclyn - soon to be ex-electronic resources lib at large public teaching university. Dark chocolate, pizza (hold the anchovies), no pets unless you count the 2 children. In SoCal, where we get no winter (to our detriment). OA/accessibility reviews/diversity in libs are three things I'd like more of. - Jaclyn aka spamgirl
John. Assistant Director at largish public library. In charge of technology and stuff. Hugo award winner. Editor of the SFWA Bulletin. Aspiring writer. Not a fan of dark chocolate. Loves to cook (and eat). Mostly love winter but hate all the house upkeep it makes. - John: Thread Killer
Heather, collections strategy librarian at mid-sized Canadian university. Pizza and chocolate are dandy as long as I don't have to pay in USD. Medicated me will love your cats and dogs. Winter's also dandy but I need a new set of yak tracks. I'll pass on Gunsmoke: Terry Prachett audio books do the trick for me. - Heather
Rachel, medical librarian at Vanderbilt *until tomorrow* - then taking on directorship of medical library and biomed communications at ETSU. Will be paying a $600 pet deposit at the new place due to the 3 cats and 100lb dog. - Rachel Walden
Jason Fleming, Information Technology Librarian at a medium sized academic library - Mr. The Jason Fleming from Android
Stephen Francoeur, user experience librarian at a medium-sized public college in New York City. - Stephen Francoeur
Community college library director in the mitten. Chocolate is good. 3 dogs. Winter is good. - J. Marie B
Oh, hey, I'm on a committee which is trying to reach more community colleges with NLM resources. Ping me if interested in learning more. - maʀtha
Stephan!e, small branch library director at oldest public univ. in US. Likes *good* dark chocolate, cats, and pizza. Ordered $45 worth of pizza for student staffers tomorrow, along with therapy dogs. library interests = reference, promotion, journalism, PR, and interdisciplinary things. - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
Mita, user experience librarian from a mid-sized university in the rust-belt of Canada - but who knows what I will be when I return to work from sabbatical in January. I just talked for an hour for a webinar that no one attended. And it was still awesome :) - copystar
Rudy, currently an outreach & instruction librarian in Nevada. Feminist, vegetarian, foodie, speculative fiction, cats. Dark chocolate. Chicago pizza. Cheese. Library interests: outreach and engagement with campus, the role of liaisons, social science data users, social media and emerging technology in libraries. Looking to move into administration - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
Lily, newly-minted, fresh-outta-library-school ref/instruction librarian at a medium-ish for-profit college in NYC. Pomegranates. Ask me about accessibility (universal design, library services to patrons with disabilities, assistive tech, etc.). - Lily
Maurice Coleman -- Master of Training and Speaking. Keynote and Speaker of Color for Hire. Trainer at Best Damn Public Library in Maryland. Host and Producer of Library Training Podcast T is for Training. Geek. Sports. Next week I start heading up our new Innovation Lab. Winter shoveling sucks. Any pizza is good pizza when served with a good beer. - ♫Maurice the Trainer♫
Marianne, circulation team coordinator at a small liberal arts college. I am also fresh outa library school, although for me it's more of a "fresh back from" since I did my degree online while still working at my current job (which I've had for about 4 years now, and a similar job at the same place for 3 before that). Pro-pizza, love all chocolate, but there's a lot of stuff I can't or... more... - Marianne
Definitely interested, Martha. - J. Marie B
Now I want pizza..... - Mary Carmen
Zamms, metadata librarian at an office in the international department of a large, well-known North American country. - Zamms from iPhone
Newbie systems librarian (former e-resources and serials) at large regional university in Oklahoma (yes, we have winter; no it isn't too bad, mostly). Learning the new ILS and my new job at the same time! Dark-dark chocolate (80%+) and cracker-thin-crust pizza are now topping the list of possibilities for my last meal. Yes, I'm suggestible. - Kirsten
Krista, web services librarian at a mid-sized university on a rock in the north atlantic (with our own half-time zone) - weelibrarian
But no halftime show - DJF from Android
*looks around for more lurkers* Come say hi, we're friendly, I swear! - maʀtha
Jen, e-resources/periodicals at medium midwest public university. Winter - no thank you. Pizza, yes please. Chocolate - dark. My mantra is "everything will be fine" because it will, of course. - Jen
Ruth, systems librarian for an astronomical observatory. I'm in Arizona, the observatory is under construction in Hawaii. Chocolate, coffee, pizza and beer: hell yes. Eggplant: hell no. Winter: I've heard of such a thing but not experienced it since I was a child, and I'm damn happy for that. Dogs, cats, child and multiple computers at homestead. Ask me about Drupal or PDM systems! - Ruth Kneale
Colleen, InfoLit Coordinator, Printer Whisperer, and General Purveyor of Awesome at CSU Channel Islands. Former 8-year Access Services/LibManagement wonk, reuniting with my original love for teaching and curriculum. Dog lover and slave to 2 basset hounds, Otto and Igor. Married to fellow ubernerd Jed, Lord of Comics and Pop Culture. I collect advanced degrees for fun (MA, MLS, MFA,... more... - ωαřмaiden ❤Bassetmom❤
Joe, at the University of Denver. I even remember when the LSW was using the pre-FF Meebo Chat Room way back in 2008. - Joe
Another Laura, a/k/a LB. Associate Director for Special Collections at a private university in GA, so I'm more of an archivist, really. All pizza is fine as long as you hold the mushrooms and anchovies. All chocolate is welcome. Two dogs, but I will pet your cat. Winter is not a problem. I need to learn more about DSpace and institutional repositories, but I love my job. (I do not, however, love bureaucracy.) - Prairie & I Know It from Android
Jonathan, Head of IT at a mid-sized public university library in SoCal - the land of no seasons, also de facto web librarian and institutional repository manager. Moonlights as a brewer at local craft microbreweries, and free time spent as a youth soccer coach/ref. - jönαthaη
(All anybody needs to know about DSpace is RUN AWAY VERY VERY FAST.) - RepoRat
Deborah, sort-of-accidental systems librarian at small New Zealand university's combined library-and-teaching/learning/research-support dept (two of us supporting *all the systems*, occasionally getting in a bit of training as we go). Dark chocolate, all the pizza. Hot chocolate over coffee or tea, ginger beer over beer. (I don't mind a little alcohol with food if it tastes good but... more... - Deborah Fitchett
Laurabrarian Tally: 3 - maʀtha
(RepoRat: Not nearly as fast as one ought to run away from integrating DSpace and Elements.) - Deborah Fitchett
I see how it is, @DJF, you and your driveby snarking - maʀtha
(Also, I have eaten pizza with Martha. :D ) - Prairie & I Know It from Android
(TRUE!) - maʀtha
Meg, science librarian at a large research university. In my spare time, I teach data-related workshops here and there, in addition to a semester-long MLS course on data librarianship, and I also have a science-writing gig. Clearly I'm bad at hobbies. Beer? Beer. I also love snow. - Meg VMeg
Robin, Director of Technology at a regional system in Kansas. I also write books and teach Project Management at Library Juice Academy. Milk chocolate - any kind; carnivore toppings on my pizza, 2 dogs but I have a cat tattoo. I'm not a fan of winter, but not enough to move away from it. - WebGoddess
(Deborah: what a nightmarish idea. :/ ) - RepoRat
Betsy, newspapers and microfilm librarian at a large midwestern public library. Pizza yes, hold the olives. Like Deborah, hot chocolate over coffee or tea, ginger beer over beer. Milk chocolate, dark chocolate, it’s all good. I love winter. Currently dog-less, but hoping to remedy that in the next couple of years. Whovian since 1981. - bentley
Anali, Scholarly Communications/licensing librarian at a large research university. I live in Phoenix, I don't do winter. I love coffee, beer, pizza, but am middling on chocolate. 2 kids under 3 & 3 needy cats, but luckily I have a husband to help manage all the needs. - Grumpator from iPhone
Hi Anali! - maʀtha
Jeff, title-free community college librarian, stapler fondler, tweaker of borrowed scripts, support-ticket-enterer. Somebody is giving out dark chocolate? Ok. - JffKrlsn
Katie, collection development in a specialized division of a very well-known governmental library. Baking addict, yarn connoisseur, romance genre wonk. Lives part of her life as an alter ego. No pets or any other living things in my home, though I wouldn't mind some plants or a dog at some point. Chocolate, yes--though I prefer milk, and pizza as long as I have dairy pills handy. - Katie
Kathy, still in the "who the hell put me in charge?" phase of my career at an acad lib. App to Ed Leadership doc program submitted. Milk chocolate. Pizza is best made at home with friends to feed. I screen my calls. Winter is best with snow. Bouncy guard dog of a rat terrier, Link. H-son's broadening my parenting skillz with lots of new things this year: girlfriend, show choir, wrestling, and low interest in getting his learner's driving permit. - Kathy
(Btw, you don't have to share real names or job details or real anything, say hi anyway) - maʀtha
Jen. Information Technology librarian in the wilds of Maine. Longstanding fascination for 'how to have a better online life' (in terms of getting what you want out of it), computers, books, and organising all the things. (Also currently engaged in an epic knitting project.) One cat named Astra, one folk harp, and I am fond of chocolate that involves either coffee or hazelnut. - Jennifer Arnott
Beth/Elizabeth. Administrator at a medium-sized public university in upstate New York. Coffee: dark roast, chocolate: Cadbury's royal dark; cats: two; child: one; snow: OK but I don't have much choice; pizza: sausage and onions; beer: Spaten or a good Czech pilsner; hobbies: knitting (although in a dry spell right now) and cooking. I like to think of life as material for the ultimate movie comedy. - Elizabeth Brown
(Jen: I miss Maine. I get to go to Waterville in June for my 20th reunion and can't wait. :) ) - ellbeecee
Kaijsa, academic librarian at the only university in Wyoming. I have many titles to choose from, but mostly work with humanities, teach, and play with tech. Am an outgoing introvert. Love coffee, dark beer, white wine, and bourbon. Dark chocolate but into savery more than sweet foods. Am from the PNW and prefer to keep snow in the mountains and not town, but live at 7220 feet--so, you know. Snowshoeing is fun. Hobbies are reading, music, perfume, and being a smartass. - kaijsa
(This feels like an online dating profile.) - kaijsa
Abigail, medical librarian in Chicago. Lots of interest in Data. Compulsive knitter and drinker of tea. 2 cats and one Philosopher at home. Chocolate is always welcome, though I think white chocolate is weird. - Hedgehog
Kendra, transportation librarian in Berkeley. Likes data, policy, and research. Record collector and plucky left back. 2 guinea pigs and a computer chip maker. Chocolate is OK, but I prefer pickles. - kendrak
(I know, Kaijsa! Everyone is sticking with my format which I didn't intend to be a format) - maʀtha
Another Laura, web services librarian at Sonoma State. All the pizza and all the chocolate, yes, please now. Plus coffee. Plus beer. I like California winters, which are actually fall. Feminist bleeding heart liberal. I read and I sew and I knit. Is there anymore pizza? - Laura Krier
Courtney F., electronic and educational resources at Belmont U in Nashville. Pizza should not have vegetables on it at all. I run so I can eat what I like (and drink beer). Winter stinks because it's so gray all the time. I am librarychic around the web and have more hobbies than i can handle :) - ~Courtney F
Laurabrarian Tally: 4. Do we have a quorum yet? - maʀtha
I really feel like there are tribes of librarians, and I'm pretty sure the Lauras are one of them. Also the Jasons. - ellbeecee
(Martha: a friend used to call it a quarrelum.) - bentley
Katy. Supervising Librarian at smallish medium public lib. I work mostly in Adult and Children's services, but I've been known to work in Teen and Genealogy. I've also done some cataloging when one of the catalogers was out. I manage the Children's collection (doing most of the selecting, but i have a few selectors for other areas) and I select in the following areas for the adult collection: 000s, 400s, 500s, 600s, and sf/f. I also manage the blog. I'm the person they can put anywhere in a pinch. - Katy S
Oh yeah, I have no life. Chocolate is almost always appreciated. Servant to two cats. - Katy S
You people are awesome. Okay about the other >900 of you? Feel free to start making stuff up :D - maʀtha
Those other 900 may be making up their entire existence, judging the number of them posting weight loss tips... - Zamms
Andy,head of the reference department at a public library in NJ, very late to this thread, and the my boss's most frequently asked question of me in the six months i've worked there is "have you pissed off any librarians today?" (Usually yes, mostly on Twitter.) - Andy
Nancy, former systems librarian at a small, public, liberal arts college in FL.Currently "between jobs." Likes: dark chocolate, pizza (no mammal-based toppings except cheese, of course), vodka, cats & dogs, cool weather. Dislikes: bullies, humidity. LSW rocks! - Nancy Sp♠id
Galadriel, head of e-resources services at large university library in New England. Only very good and very dark chocolate; two cats; pizza with spinach, feta, and onions; leave a message and I might eventually call back for immediate reply, e-mail. I like all four seasons, am bummed that winter here is sans snow so far. - Galadriel C.
Stephen Francoeur
Looking for source for Alan Kay quote: a computer is an instrument whose music is ideas. (Heard quote from @GardnerCampbell last week).
This book attributes the statement to: A. Kay, “Computer Software,” Sci. Am., 251 (1984): 53. - bentley
Thanks! It doesn't have the exact quote but I can see why someone might reference it in relationship to the quote. The person who I heard repeat the quote (Gardner Campbell) told me on Twitter he found it here: - Stephen Francoeur
JSTOR goes boom.
And EBSCOadmin is down, and EBSCO support phone line is not working. What does it all mean? - JffKrlsn
Us too. Bah. - Jaclyn aka spamgirl
Back! Phew. - Jaclyn aka spamgirl
maybe it's the great disturbance in the Force over in the Netherlands... - RepoRat
My wish for today: that LibGuides 2 would have a 37/37/26 3 column layout!
Uh, is the 26 for the profile box? Because that's pretty much what I've been wanting, too. I miss custom column widths! - kaijsa
Yes, precisely! I don't want the profile box any bigger, but *really* want equal sized content boxes!! - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
In general, I like 2.0, but it needs a couple of things. For one, I want to be able to make boxes that span all columns, not just a top and bottom box. Top box pushes everything down too much. I am difficult to please. - kaijsa
this can be done with css hacks - I've done this by accident a few times and it took a bit to figure out how I goofed it up (didn't document it, sorry) - Aaron the Librarian
kajisa, I was surprised that the column spanning boxes were so fixed. I thought we would have the ability to span 2 out of 3 columns, and also to put a column spanner in the middle of the page. I also would like the ability to put images inside boxes full of databases or links-- I really want to add more visual zing to my pages, but the way we have to work with graphics makes that hard - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
That said, I do like Springshare stuff. It's pretty simple and mostly flexible and does what I basically want with very little effort on my part. I just always want moar. - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
You can insert images in boxes full of links. I've broken up links with multimedia/html items. What you said about column spanning boxes is exactly what I wanted and thought we were going to get. - kaijsa
If you have Libguides CMS you get unlimited templates so it would be possible to set some up that allowed for more column-spanning areas. Without CMS you are still able to customize templates somewhat but it's much more limited. - JffKrlsn
Spending my morning with Alma folks. It's on our short list of LMS vendors.
I'm impressed you're allowed to mention such things publicly... - JffKrlsn
[iris mysteriously disappears] - barbara fister
Aaron the Librarian
Learned something new-to-me today: Newsbank apparently has a freely available index of thier newspapers The results provide a direct link for users to buy the article for $2.95 ... but hey, it's a free indexing service
I will be test teaching the indexing to some history students with the loud repeated "don't buy the article, check the library newspaper collection list and either use oour copy or put in an ILL request" - Aaron the Librarian
btw, one fun fact about newsbank, is that if you search the * it will work as a truncation symbol. UNLESS it's in quotes, in which case it won't work. So electronic cig* works but "electronic cig*" does not. (well, it does, but you only get the phrase "electronic cig") - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
in our collection, "electronic cig*" = 4 articles; without quotes it's 47,679. (of course, there are false positives in there, because of no proximity operator. *sigh* - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
If you have EDS, Newsbank indexing is available in there too. I couldn't get OpenURL linking from it to work, though, because the metadata is weird. - JffKrlsn
If you were going to introduce someone to David Foster Wallace's writing, with which book/essay would you begin?
Seconding the cruise essay. - Meg VMeg
I really like the tennis essays, but I don't know that those would be a good intro for people who don't know the sport. Also, good list here: - Kirsten
Cruise essay, for sure. - laura x from iPhone
Just got the "Supposedly Fun..." book at our Library Book Sale, and any really any of the essays are good introductions. - Elizabeth Brown
The first thing I read by him was "The Depressed Person", and it totally slayed me, but that's probably a risky first read. - JffKrlsn from Android
I second the recommendation of either the cruise essay or state fair essays. I got into his writing in a completely different way but I think those would be good choices for those who never read him. - MariWeaver
^ nice, thanks. - Marie
Now would be a great time to tell me about your favorite android apps, btw.
Evernote - Stephen Francoeur
Instapaper - Stephen Francoeur
Andmade Share (offers greater sharing options in all your apps) - Stephen Francoeur
Lookout Mobile (for security, etc.) - Stephen Francoeur
ES File Explorer (better way to view and move files around) - Stephen Francoeur
*hugs Stephen* - lris
Dogg Catcher *(for podcasts) - Stephen Francoeur
LastPass (for password management, requires $ from LastPass) - Stephen Francoeur
FFHound, Urbanspoon, PitchLab, Google Sky Map, and the Red Cross emergency apps. - Kirsten
Zandy (for Zotero) - Stephen Francoeur
1Weather - Stephen Francoeur
AirDroid (access your phone via desktop or laptop) - Stephen Francoeur
Whoa - lris
CityMapper (public transit in major cities) - Stephen Francoeur
If you don't use Gmail, then k9 is a better mail app than the standard one - DJF from Android
Install google authenticator and set up 2-factor authentication on everything - DJF from Android
Yeah, work email and calendar are in zimbra for me, not gmail. Also, my computers are all Mac, so photos and stuff are in iCloud. - lris
Hmm. Pocket? (You probably don't need Pocket AND Instapaper, from what I understand.) If you're interested in meditation, check out Headspace. I'm an iPhone user, but those are two apps I like that have Android equivalents. :) - Laura
I'll second David's recommendation of Google Authenticator. I'd forgotten about it even though I use it often (especial for all things Google and my WordPress installs). - Stephen Francoeur
Dots, for sitting in waiting rooms. - Jaclyn aka spamgirl from Android
Plume for Twitter - JffKrlsn from Android
Out of Milk for to do and shopping lists. Stocard for keeping all those store barcodes (i.e. Petco, grocery store) - Stocard lets you manually add cards so, I added my library card too. Also, Beyond Pod, NPR, PRI, and This American Life. - Galadriel C.
AccuWeather, AntiVirus, Google Authenticator (although I'm considering switching to Authy), Cartwheel (Target's savings app), Dropbox, Evernote, Flashlight, GroupMe (better group texting), Hootsuite, Instagram, Key Ring (like Stocard), Kroger (savings app), LastPass, Lyft, My Maps (lets me access my custom Gmaps), Pattrn (changes the background regularly), Prey (find my phone), QR Code... more... - ~Courtney F from Android
I second some of the apps Courtney mentioned - I use Keyring & Cartwheel also. - Laura
I have now installed many of these. Wheee! - lris
FeedR, Pocket, Timely, Wolfram Alpha, Simplenote, DoggCatcher, Google Camera, Amazon App Store, Quip, Plume, twicca, 1Password, scorer, Oxford comma (j/k) and Ffhound! - Micah from FFHound(roid)!
~Courtney F
So in relation to the Adobe thing ( ...what, if anything, are you telling your patrons about it? And how? Social media? Tutorial videos?
Shocking news. "One of the key findings was that students struggle with being able to successfully navigate their college and university library websites."
I did not like that "Who better to..." line one bit. (Probably not Spool's fault.) We HAVE UI/UX experts in libraries, yo... and a lot of the problems live with our gotdamn vendors anyway. - RepoRat
Word, RR. - kaijsa
Oh look, EBSCO is expending resources doing things I don't need EBSCO to do. - JffKrlsn from Android
Meg VMeg
For three days, LibGuides have been hella slow to load?
*waves at Laura and wonders if it's only us* - Meg VMeg
*honestly only posting to see if others were having the same problem and hopes laura doesn't respond if she's on vacation or it's not her turn or she simply doesn't feel like it* - Meg VMeg
No problems here at UIC - Hedgehog
We're OK here. Are you on the new platform yet? - Stephen Francoeur
Yes, I believe we are. - Meg VMeg
No problems here but I did find late in the day on Monday that if I made edits, they weren't reflected on the live site... that cleared up after Monday though. - JffKrlsn
There is some general internet sites lag here... but not bad enough to sqwak about it (not sure if the pipes are just full today or what) - Aaron the Librarian
Sorry I didn't see this earlier - was in a training session. Meg, your guides load quickly for me -, right? Am curious whether your site is slow for anyone else here in LSW. If it seems like they are just slow for peeps at NYU, it would most likely be a networking issue to talk to your IT folks about. Jeff: that was a bug, and others reported that too. It WAS fixed on I'm glad to hear that confirmed from you too. :) - Laura
NYU loads about the same speed as my site does for me if you want to compare? - Aaron the Librarian
It's a mystery. - Meg VMeg
Thanks, Laura (I really wasn't trying to harass you into responding, just figured you'd see my post at some point, so I waved :) - Meg VMeg
Mr. The Jason Fleming
Is Encore its own discovery service anymore, or is it now just another presentation layer for EDS?
Well they still have something called "Encore Discovery Solution" so in some sense yes. But I was told by mmm, someone, that they now were admitting that Encore "Synergy" (the former discovery component) never worked very well and that at least academic customers would be much better off with the EDS integration ("Duet"). I wonder what they tell people who purchased Synergy. - JffKrlsn
We still have Encore Synergy running though it is semi hidden. We are/were long time customers of III and had Encore already when Synergy was released. I recall III refused to call it federated search saying they use xml gateways but essentially they can't compete with modern unified indexed searches. I never understood why academic libraries would lump it into their comparisons with Summon/EDS etc. - aaron from YouFeed
I would add i can hardly imagine any academic library today going for Encore Synergy. Other library types with very little e-resources maybe... But even then Encore duet might be better but I have no idea about pricing. - aaron from YouFeed
aaron: right!, I keep wondering why all these "current" papers I am reading talking about reviews of Discovery Services keep lumping Encore in there alongside Summon, Worldcat, and EDS - Mr. The Jason Fleming
As you might imagine (since I work for Springshare), I see a lot of LibGuides and a lot of people's profile images. I just saw a very cute one of a librarian and her cat. I like profile pics with pets, and maybe patrons will feel a librarian is more approachable because they have a pet. Thoughts?
slightly unprofessional and stereotype reinforcing? but that's just me. - Christina Pikas
I think it can swing either way, really. And depends a lot on the person-viewing, at least as much as on the person-being-viewed. - Catherine Pellegrino
I use my official headshot. Like Christina says, I avoid anything stereotypically librarian and/or unprofessional. My personal reaction to clever profile pics (like the Carleton librarians') is positive, but anything cutesy is negative. YMMV. - kaijsa
I might include one of my dogs, but I don't think I would include lasers flashing across the image... - Joe
I use a semi-casual picture of myself because I don't like my professional picture (I was exhausted/bad hair day when we got run through the uni photog's office), but I prefer headshots. Save personal/w/ pets photos for own social media. - Hedgehog
If it's work-relevant -- a candid of an academic librarian with a finals-week therapy dog -- okay, I can deal. Otherwise, I wouldn't recommend it, unless there's an intentional "be human for the students!" push, and maybe not even then. - RepoRat
I'm fondling a stapler in mine. Seems ok to me because that is one of my professional competencies. - JffKrlsn
I approve this message ^^^ Also, stapler-fondling. - barbara fister
One of my colleagues includes her "Shh" finger tattoo in her LG profile photo. It's one of my favorites. - Jason P
I guess I think there's a useful distinction between "professional" and "liable to cause others to be dismissive." Thank you for making me think about it, though. - RepoRat
Well. I figure it's sort of like what Jenna Freedman says about having blue hair: Sure, there are students and faculty who will be turned off by it and take her less seriously. But there are also students and other people who will find her MORE approachable because of it. Every patron his or her librarian. - laura x
Fair enough! - RepoRat
We all have our own idea of what professional means, and to me, a cute photo doesn't fit. What RepoRat says--"liable to cause others to be dismissive"--is part of my calculation for being professional. Of course, that I am apt to wear a lot of bright lipstick may lead some to dismiss me, but I've decided that my choices still fit into my personal spectrum of professional demeanor. I... more... - kaijsa
Slightly tangential: I think part of my resistance comes from some power plays I've seen at previous places of work. The University Librarian, for example, who brought his little rat-dog in to work and let it run all over the place and bother people. Clearly nobody else could have gotten away with that! So, I guess it's partly a context-match issue? If the workplace is go-with-the-flow,... more... - RepoRat
^^^Yes. Privilege is huge and so is context. - kaijsa
so here, and i've mentioned this before, it's important to look like an engineer and not a secretary ("dressed for success"). We have two internal things with profiles - one (sharepoint) - I have my official portrait. The other - running Elgg - I have a picture of Bat Girl with the tag: librarians are heros every day - Christina Pikas
And I would imagine it's more important FOR WOMEN to consider whether they look like an engineer or a secretary. - kaijsa
^+1000 - Christina Pikas
:D - RepoRat
Christina Pikas
What methods do people teach in the social sciences for evaluating things that are not exactly scholarly journals but aren't exactly magazines like The Economist?
So like Foreign Affairs? - JffKrlsn from Android
Yeah- like that. Some of these are well know. To be biased but how to train newbies? - Christina Pikas from iPhone
Or how to understand it oneself? It's a big issue in poli sci because of the need to publish quickly. - JffKrlsn from Android
I think some basics apply to all sources, and they're more rhetorical analysis than anything: who wrote this? who was the audience? what evidence is provided? does the argument it provides make sense? is this source likely to be a persuasive one for my readers for this particular writing purpose or should I drill deeper? I could evaluate a Tweet that way! :) - barbara fister
Mr. The Jason Fleming
Reading "Evaluation and Comparison of Discovery Tools:An Update" from a couple of months ago. It states that there are 5 discovery tools that can be placed above the rest: "Encore, Ebsco Discovery Service, Primo, summon, and WorldCatLocal" Do you agree? Are there any others you would consider to be in their league?
Encore is dead as discovery. They now outsource it to EDS. (And worldcat changed its name, right? ) But what's left? VuFind? - JffKrlsn from Android
This came across LibLicense-L over the weekend: - Lisa Hinchliffe
The Texas State Library and Archives Commission is pleased to announce a White Paper on Discovery Services Implementing a discovery service can be both challenging and rewarding. The Texas State Library and Archives Commission (TSLAC) contracted with Amigos Library Services to write a white paper to provide basic information concerning discovery services, as well as an overview of the... more... - Lisa Hinchliffe
Vendors: BiblioCommons, Blacklight, EBSCO Discovery Services, Ex Libris Primo, Innovative Encore, OCLC WorldCat Discovery, ProQuest Summon Service, VuFind - Lisa Hinchliffe
ooh, thank you for that, Lisa. - RepoRat
if you just talk abt article index there are only 4. primo , summon, eds, worldcat discovery. the rest like vufind, encore duet are mostly layers only that need the article index from the 4. - aaron from BuddyFeed
Thank you Lisa for the link! - Mr. The Jason Fleming
Aaron, right.. and doesn't vufind work with summon or worldcat data to provide the data? - Mr. The Jason Fleming
Fleming sounds about right. I think I recently saw someone got EDS to work with vufind too. - aaron
So "discovery tool" could be defined in different ways--meta-index or presentation layer/interface, or combination thereof. - JffKrlsn
yes, it's always been a Humpty Dumpty portmanteau. I've personally seen discussions go south because the group had not decided beforehand (or at all) whether metadata coverage or UI was more important. Either decision is perfectly defensible! But trying to pick a discovery layer without that decision is an exercise in everybody talking past everybody else. - RepoRat
Besides the UI and the article index, a third area could be whether it works as an ILS by itself or is it just a layer over the "real ILS" . The term discovery tool or layer predates the rise of web scale discovery, so it is confusing. You can get confused over terms like "Next generation catalogue" vs Discovery tool vs Discovery layer. - aaron
aaron: I was reading a different article today that pointed to the integration of the actual ILS as a future step - Mr. The Jason Fleming
That's basically where Ex Libris is heading with Alma. It's much more integrated with Promo than Voyager could be. - Kirsten from Android
good phrasing, aaron, may I steal it? :) - RepoRat
Galadriel C.
PSA: An undetermined number of Ebrary and EBL e-books are not actually entire e-books. At a faculty member's request, we purchased an e-book via Ebrary, only to discover that some of the pages in said book are not available.
As you expand the TOC of the e-book, any chapter/section title followed by [text] means that the text isn't actually there. - Galadriel C.
According to Ebrary, this is because of publisher mandates at a title-by-title level. However, Ebrary can't give us a list of e-books that aren't actually whole e-books. - Galadriel C.
Sheesh. Thanks for the warning. I'm going to make a Twitter feed and it's just going to be called "@%$ing ebooks" and it will be full of swears. - Regular Amanda
Wow. We haven't run into this at all (likely just sheer dumb luck). But it's totally, totally bogus that such books don't come with a warning or notice of some sort, pre-purchase. Also bogus that PQ can't provide a list of titles with text missing. - Kirsten
Also, according to Ebrary: "Because publishers don't tell us that they are giving titles with removed content, right now the best option for identifying books like this is to look through them. I'm sorry there isn't an easier way. Luckily, this is a rare occurrence." - Galadriel C.
That is an unlike like. - Joe
This is so far beyond outrageous that I don't even know what to call it. - Catherine Pellegrino
lol - Meg VMeg
So...where's the discount for every time we run into this that is (at minimum) equivalent to 2x the cost of a print book so we can have 2 copies on hand as well? - Hedgehog
This may be why e-resources librarians drink. - Marie
Edited to add that this incomplete e-book issue occurs with EBL e-books too. - Galadriel C.
Can they tell you which publishers at least? So then we can set up a schedule, so that they get a call every 15 minutes for a whole workday, complaining about this? - Meg VMeg
According to Ebrary support, they don't have a list of publishers that provide incomplete e-books. However, I've sent a note to our rep to learn more and request more details. - Galadriel C.
And there goes the idea that vendors are looking out for us. (I mean, if it's that rare, couldn't they have started a list? Bet both they and the publishers hoped we wouldn't notice.) - barbara fister
that is beyond bogus. maybe we can crowdsource a list and then name-and-shame the publishers. - RepoRat
Publishers negotiated/paid for just print reproduction rights for the relevant essays. Assholes. - DJF from Android
Satan invented permissions to tormet us. - barbara fister
Something something open access noncommercial - DJF from Android
In further correspondence with Ebrary, their prevailing theme is that because this is infrequent, it's not a big deal. This is such an unbelievably awful user experience, and since there is no pre-purchase warning, poor customer service. - Galadriel C.
you didn't get what you paid for, and it's not a big deal? wtf? - RepoRat
If you were an individual, rather than an institution, this would be totally call-the-credit-card-initiate-a-chargeback territory. - Catherine Pellegrino
I know, right? We do not have the time or staff to review every single ebook to make sure it's complete and then track refund requests. - Galadriel C.
Is that the actual message from Ebrary, with the word "luckily"? As if the pages are accidentally missing and they accidentally sold it to you anyway. Luck should not be involved here! - Megan loves summer
Yes Megan, that's an excerpt from an Ebrary support message. - Galadriel C. from Android
that is some straight-up boolsheet. - RepoRat
That's nuts. - Jaclyn aka spamgirl from Android
gah - maʀtha
Gah indeed - this is crap. - Jen
Dandy. - Heather
Galadriel, are you on ERIL-L or SERIALST? I'm curious to see what kind of response you'd get there. I know publishers monitor both. Let's raise a stink! - Holly's favorite Anna
Whoa - Christina Pikas from iPhone
o_O wtf kinda crap ass bs is this?? i respected ebrary for the most part, but this...this is some serious crazy crap - Sir Shuping is just sir
Even before this, ebrary was a waste of electromagnetism - DJF from Android
Anna - I'm on ERIL-L and LIBLICENSE-L and am planning to post. I'm just waiting for further another response from Ebrary after elevating the issue from support to our rep. Yes! Raising a stick is certainly warranted! - Galadriel C. from Android
Let me know when someone posts on this and I will signal boost the crap out of it. That's beyond outrageous, it's straight up fraud IMO. - Andy
will watch for your post on liblicense-l and raise sh*t at mpow. - jambina
Apparently the issue is because of copyrighted content not being released for e-publication and its becoming a "smaller and smaller problem." Yet, our users have reported 3 incomplete ebooks since last week. Posts to listservs coming tomorrow or Wednesday! - Galadriel C. from Android
I just happened on this tweet, which I think may involve people who aren't in the conversation going on here, but is definitely related: - Catherine Pellegrino
I just tried the "refer to print version" search in ebrary and 30 books we own showed up in the search results. 29 included omitted figures and illustrations and the 30th was the book above that excludes entire chapters. - Galadriel C.
And it gets curiouser and curiouser for now the Ebrary e-book includes all previously missing content with no notice or further explanation. (This isn't go to stop the listserv post from happening though!) - Galadriel C.
"cheese it, the cops! I mean, the librarians!" - RepoRat
This can also happen in Gale Virtual Reference Library. We bought the multi-volume American Decades: Primary Sources from them, only to find that in a significant number of cases, the introduction to the primary source was there, but the primary source itself was not. When we realized this we stamped our feet and complained, with the results you might expect. - JffKrlsn
Most of the talk here has been about Ebrary, which we don't use at MPOW, but I can confirm that at least one book from EBL is missing chapters (Introducing Don DeLillo edited by Frank Lentricchia, Duke UP). (EDITED: we haven't actually bought it yet, but it's in our catalogue for PDA purchase) - Megan loves summer
Just to follow-up on Megan's note, that yes, this problem does indeed apply to all e-book aggregators. We found the above example in Ebrary, but ProQuest has confirmed that EBL is also impacted but continues to note that it's not a big deal because it's not common. - Galadriel C.
I found 5 books missing images in our ebrary collection and 26 books missing content in our myilibrary collection (all images except for one book missing four poems). - DJF from Android
It's a while before my next deadline, but I haven't gotten in any trouble for a while, so I'm thinking about writing this up for my next LJ column, unless it's resolved by then. Would y'all be okay with that (it's fine if not)? Would you want yourself and/or your institution mentioned? Would it be okay if the column linked to this thread? - RepoRat
Silence = consent? - JffKrlsn from Android
RR - please do! I will also forward you a copy of the list post once it is sent. - Galadriel C.
Thank you, Galadriel! (Anyone else, please feel free to object! I will not be upset in any way if you do!) - RepoRat
Does anyone have an EBL example? Our rep says it's only for ebrary content, but your responses indicate otherwise. Thank you Galadriel and all - you do a great service by sharing this information. - Jen
Hey Jen - the above book had missing content in both Ebrary and EBL last week. We bought the Ebrary version and previewed the EBL version to check across platforms when we discovered the EBL problem. Unfortunately, I don't have screen shots. I don't know if the content appeared in EBL as it did in Ebrary this week though. Also, you're most welcome! - Galadriel C. from Android
I'm not speaking on behalf of my institution here, but would love to see the thread in an LJ article. - Megan loves summer
Oh, and I have a screenshot from EBL (Introducing Don DeLillo), which is missing a couple of chapters. Let me know if you want it. - Megan loves summer
Galadriel--which listserv, if you don't mind me asking? - YvonneM
ERIL-L and LIBLICENSE-L as well as the list for the Boston Library Consortium's Heads of Resource Management community of interest that I'm a part of because the BLC has a pilot consortial PDA with Ebrary. I was planning to post last week, but the situation keeps changing and I didn't want to post right before the holiday weekend. - Galadriel C.
checking in RE posting, has the post posted? - maʀtha
Not yet, I'll post here once it has been sent! - Galadriel C.
Doing that "Refer to the print edition" search in our ebrary library came up with 97 titles, 94 of which were published by Liberty Fund Inc. - that phrase is usually on a page in the front matter, between a cover page and the title page. I only mention that because it doesn't seem like that would be important content. That said, 3 other titles are missing images for sure. - Grumpator
Huh. So, like, that was the only page missing? Weird. (Who removes the half-title page just 'cuz?) - RepoRat
Yeah - though here's one (The Free Sea by Hugo Grotius) that has a cover page, "page intentionally left blank," series title page, then 3 pages "refer to the print edition" (pages iv-vi), then the real title page. Seems so weird. What could possibly be on those pages that can only be seen in the print edition? - Grumpator
In most print-book designs, two of those pages would be blank (because verso) and the third might be an epigraph or a dedication or something? I can't imagine why they'd take out a freakin' epigraph. Oh, wait -- possibly a frontispiece? Lack of image permissions could be a thing. - RepoRat
Seems to be. I just found one, same publisher, that seems to be missing an image in chapter 10, so their omissions are not limited to just Front Matter content. Which means that my list of 97 titles just became a bit more significant. - Grumpator
We've got 115 hits for "Refer to the print edition", a good number from Kent State University Press (and Liberty Fund, Inc.) Most looking like images. - Meg VMeg
I take it back: the largest proportion is Liberty Fund, followed by maybe 10 from Kent State, a handful for Wesleyan, and single records from Routledge, Wayne State, and University of Georgia. Hilariously enough, this is the first time that "sort by publisher" has been helpful to me. - Meg VMeg
6 books from Greenleaf saying, "To view this chapter, please refer to the print" - Meg VMeg
Ok folks, I've sent the post of to ERIL-L and LIBLICENSE-L. In the post, I focus solely on our experience with the Ebrary e-book missing chunks/chapters of core text. Please respond to the post with your own experiences as you see fit and let the signal boosting commence! - Galadriel C.
Thanks for letting us know. :-) - YvonneM
You're most welcome! - Galadriel C. from Android
There was no follow up discussion on the list. Did you get any direct emails? - Joe
I got two direct messages with one indicating that they were going to reply to the post Friday. If folks subscribe via digest, they may not see the post until tomorrow. - Galadriel C. from Android
On off list reply shared that EBL gave a completely new reason for why the content was missing from the EBL version of the e-book: The publisher accidentally sent the wrong file. - Galadriel C.
Curiouser and curiouser. ;) - Catherine Pellegrino
I see two new response posts on the topic today on ERIL. - Marie
Information Today?? We've been saying this for years!
And yet, when you look at the content, it's just an invitation to a Proquest infomercial. - JffKrlsn from Android
Is anyone holding off on migrating to the LibGuides v2 because it's "too beta"? (Rather than because e.g. it's a big job that requires extra care.) I was planning on just doing it, and now getting a little worried that so much is not quite there yet...
We're migrating tomorrow. I guess we'll see how that goes. - kaijsa
How about both reasons you mention? - aaron
Our content was migrated at the end of June. We're scheduled (by us) to go live August 1. I haven't heard that it's too beta from my coworkers, but I might when we meet about it next week. - ~Courtney F
it's definitely too beta (I'd say still a wee bit alpha). We migrated in June, not sure when we're going live - because some essential components aren't built or ready yet. My Springshare love is pretty tainted by the way this rolled. - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
I'm holding off until the end of the year, partly because I'd like the dust to settle on the new platform first and partly because I want to use these intervening months as a time for us to clean up the guides on the current platform in advance of the migration. The longer we can spend on the latter, the better off we'll be. In other words, the migration is giving us a convenient excuse to do the kind of clean up work we should have been doing all along. - Stephen Francoeur
Our guides are still fairly small in number and only a few librarians are even creating them right now--I like the idea of switching over asap so as not to have to train folks twice... just now getting cold feet from the stuff I'm seeing (and in some cases, reporting) in their Ning (!) community. - JffKrlsn
Springshare's has a Ning community? - aaron from YouFeed is Ning, isn't it? - JffKrlsn from Android
Oh.. Right. - aaron
I finally decided that it wasn't a great idea to wait for everything to be great, since there will always be problems... went live today. Will be cleaning up CSS for several weeks. - JffKrlsn
we migrating in oct. live dec. - aaron from BuddyFeed
We've gone live. There are definitely "too beta" aspects that are annoying, but there are also new features that we really wanted, so...6 of one, half a dozen of the other. - Rebecca Hedreen
we're live. where are we talking about LG 2.0?? - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
As I mentioned before, we migrated in July. We're going live next week. It's proven too hard to really know what needs to be fixed until we pull the trigger, so we're doing it before school starts. I'm just going to unpublish any of my stuff that needs help until I can get to it. - kaijsa
Rochelle *boom* Hartman
Anyone have firsthand knowledge of a public library/community college library partnership? Or if you could point me to case studies or examples.
Are you talking sharing space? ILS? Collection? Budget? We share our ILS with our community college and share materials via in house ILL. Users have separate HCPL *the library*and HCC (the community college) accounts because we have different circulation periods and fines. - ♫Maurice the Trainer♫
[deleted my comment because I obviously don't know what I'm talking about] - bentley
When I was a student at Everett Community College (WA), the college library was also a branch of Everett Public Library. It looks like that's no longer the case. Here in Wyoming, all the public libraries and community colleges share an ILS and database packages. We at the university are part of the Colorado Alliance, which includes both publics and academics in the shared catalog. - kaijsa
I think Carroll county md does, too. Or they used to - Christina Pikas from iPhone
I can't say much because it's casual discussion (which could get serious soon). Mostly want to see different ways it might look. Thanks! - Rochelle *boom* Hartman
I've been involved in some partnering between a satellite campus of our community college and a public library; it is currently very loose and informal; we tried some tighter integration but it didn't work. One of our sister colleges has a joint-use MOE with the public library for one of its satellite campuses (although there is no info about that available online that I can find!). - JffKrlsn
Phoenix Public Library/South Mountain CC Library in Phoenix (RepoRat linked it above). It's been pretty popular (it's my local PL), and I know some of the librarians there, if you want a contact. - Grumpator
Thank you, thank you! - Rochelle *boom* Hartman
There's the library Chad Mairn works at in Florida - maʀtha
In the course of things, I came across a great assignment suggestion which indicated that Academic Search Premier had "cited reference" searching. Try as I might, I'm not finding it. I'm not even seeing linked citations, which I know are in other EBSCO databases. Am I missing something here? Have you done cited reference searching in ASP?
Yes, cited reference is kind of hidden, but you can get to it at the very top in the blue bar, next to the link to the Subject Terms. Some other EBSCO products have it, so the "choose databases" option is available there so you can search across databases if you want. - kaijsa
Also some journals are indexed and others (most?) aren't. So it's a cool feature but very limited, far from comprehensive. - JffKrlsn from Android
Also you can do things on the admin side to make it more visible. Left-hand limiter for "references available." Your users will have no idea what that means, of course. " - JffKrlsn from Android
Neat, I didn't know they had this. Although, when I try to get the citing articles, it says to "mark checkboxes and click Find Citing Articles" but there are no checkboxes to check. Anywhere. ETA: Oh wait, there are 3 checkboxes, in a list of 20 results. Puzzling. - Meg VMeg
Kajisa, thanks! I completely missed that link! I did notice, switching between EBSCO databases that the limit to include articles with references available is missing on ASP, I assumed that was what I was looking for. Meg, I wonder if the checkbox is only there for articles FT is ASP? All the cited references I'm looking at right now have our find it link, and no check boxed/ - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
The assignment that referred to this has them compare cited reference searching in Web of Science, Google Scholar, and ASP. I think ASP isn't a great for this, the cited reference search is too hidden, specific, and non-intuituve for this. But now I'm wondering if there is a good third database to use in an exercise like this? - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
SciFinder Scholar, HeinOnline, and IEEE Xplore do this. PubMed sort of does, but it's worse than EBSCO. Some of the full-text collections do, but you'll likely grab that content anyway, for example Science Direct in Web of Science. I guess it depends on the discipline area(s) you're working with. - kaijsa
Scopus, if you have Scopus. - Meg VMeg
The big 3 are GS, Scopus and Wos, Then pubmed I think. I remember there used to be this great libguides or article that covered a ton of databases that could do cited references. Anyway the top 3 in this libguides search is pretty good - aaron
AddThis is used in EBSCOhost. Meet the Online Tracking Device That is Virtually Impossible to Block @EBSCO
AddThis is used in EBSCOhost. Meet the Online Tracking Device That is Virtually Impossible to Block @EBSCO
We have AddThis in a number of different library locations, and on some of my blogs. I doubt any of these are popular enough for AddThis to have use the finderprinting, but I might recommend that we stop using AddThis. There are alternatives. - Joe
As usual, it's difficult to understand just how real the privacy threat is... - JffKrlsn
Stephen Francoeur
Can you click this link for what I hope is a stable URL for my search in our not-yet-launched instance of Primo and let me know if you are seeing the results for a search for "turtles?" Thanks....
seems to have worked for me - lris
Great! Thnx. - Stephen Francoeur
turtles all the way down! - RepoRat
^ - Marie
all turtles. - Lnorigb
Awww, no pics. Just turtles. - Alix May
...Okay, so how did you do that? - Deborah Fitchett
Do what? Get a stable URL for the search? I just copied the one in the address bar. If I'm not mistaken, in most discovery services this works. - Stephen Francoeur
Ours is defigured by a session id. (Bloody session ids.) Seems to work in the short term, will see if the session timeout breaks it. Extracting the session id from it works fine too of course, just harder to explain to lecturers. - Deborah Fitchett
Deborah, are you talking about Summon at your library? http://lincolnnz.summon.serial... - Stephen Francoeur
No, about our own not-yet-launched Primo: http://primo-direct-apac.hoste... ...Which now does a search for me without session id. What? I swear it was there before. - Deborah Fitchett
Are you guys switching from Summon? I think one of the discovery services that don't have stable URL is EDS. very annoying. - aaron
EDS is same as all other EBSCOhost: permalinks are available but copying url from address bar doesn't work - JffKrlsn from Android
Yes really annoying, I always forget. - aaron
Yeah we're migrating from Voyager/Summon to Alma/Primo. - Deborah Fitchett
We're sticking with our ILS, Ex Libris Aleph, but are dropping Summon locally (later on) and picking up Primo consortially. While other schools in our consortium (the City University of New York) may provide Primo fairly quickly, we're going to keep going with Summon for a while until the Primo instance is as good (in terns of UX) as our Summon v1 instance is. - Stephen Francoeur
Turtles on Arrested Development! - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
One of the reasons why I use turtles as my default search term is my sister, who helps keep the little fellers out of harm's way at JFK. - Stephen Francoeur
Trialing browzine again for the second time, since they are now supporting aggregators like ebsco, proquest and Ovid. Any of you who have this for a while? How are users taking it? I got the impression it's quite well received on the medical side.
We're looking at it again, too. People are more impressed this time, and the pricing is more sensible. - Holly's favorite Anna
one of my faculty members LOVES it & she tells me that every time she sees me. - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
I think we are finally getting it - maʀtha
We had a trial for a couple of months, had moderate use (good for a trial really), and just subscribed for a year. We'll see how it goes. - Galadriel C. from Android
We are several months into our first year. I haven't really heard any feedback other than excitement when I tell people about it. I'll take a look at stats tomorrow. - ~Courtney F
So we're about 6 months in. It's an interesting mix of titles that are being used. We've had less than 100 sessions, but almost 1000 TOC views and a good number of full text downloads. (also, entirely iOS) - ~Courtney F
Meaning that it only works on iOS, right? That's what it seems like from their site, anyway... Hard to stomach. - JffKrlsn
Jeff There's a android version. I am trialling it on a Nexus 7 (2013). It's less polished compared to the iOS one but workable. I could be wrong but the pricing model charges seperately for iOS and Android. - aaron
Aaron is correct - right now it's tablet only, both Android and iOS. They are going to release an iPhone version soon, and then an Android phone version. The pricing model did charge separately when we started our subscription (we have both), but they may have changed that. - ~Courtney F
They have changed it. There's now a single price based on fte that's platform independent. - DJF from Android
iPhone version is already out. I adore Browzine. Keeps getting better. - Julie Kane from iPhone
I think it's a great app -- MPOW is launching it in the Fall. My only complaint is that a lot of humanities sources are missing, I think because smaller publishers have a harder time getting their feeds up-to-snuff and/or included. Our tech services staff showed me where you can request inclusion of new publishers: - Regular Amanda
Seems like everyone has only good words for browzine. How is the speed of loading of pdfs on your side? Feels a bit slow here.. can be maybe 10-15s - aaron
Yep, the only complaints I've gotten are about the small selection of titles available. No gripes about Android, either, but I rarely see a non-iOS tablet on this campus. I don't think ours has gotten a huge push, and I work with mostly humanities and cultural studies faculty so haven't promoted it aggressively. The people who've tried it seem to love it. - kaijsa
Catherine Pellegrino
I have never bothered to set an "out of office" email autoresponder thinger. Should I?
Honestly, I never do. Only if I'm going to be out more than a week with scanty email access. - RepoRat
Since I don't have off-site email access (I've chosen not to learn how), I set it when I know I'll the out for more than a day. The one time I forgot, my director emailed me about something and eventually went to my boss when she didn't get a response. - Katie
i always do, but a MPOW there's a global rule so it never goes outside of the firewall. otherwise i might not for fear of listserv hell.eta: it's difficult for me to check my work e-mail from away as it requires 2-factor authentication and i've also set the expectation of quick responses. - Christina Pikas
I started setting it (and changing my voicemail message) after the first time I was out of town and a faculty member left 3 voicemails, emailed twice, and called my officemate (who told him I was out of town). It seemed like an unnecessary level of panic that was pretty easy to avoid. Also it helps me not check my email on vacation. I only do it for extended vacations though - not for being sick or taking an extra day off here or there. - Marianne
Hm. Okay, maybe I'll look into setting one for my upcoming week of vacation. I've just never set one before, for any length of time, and never had it come back to bite me. And frankly, I find them annoying as heck, but I guess I can see the purpose. - Catherine Pellegrino
I do, but all my lists go to a gmail acct, and that doesn't get one. But it's a courtesy, since I'd rather students/faculty get one if they contact me with a question and know they can go to someone else if it's urgent. - ellbeecee from Android
I find them annoying when I already know the person is gone (like a direct co-worker) but helpful in other circumstances. Also, we were pretty much told "do it" so I do it. I always include contact information for the reference desk in my email and voicemail messages when I know I'm going to be out for more than a day or two and don't want to be checking email while I'm out. - lris
yes, for the reasons above. especially what Christina said about my having set an expectation of a quick response. if I know I'm not going to check email, I set the out of office thingie. - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
Good point about the contact info, Iris, I do that too (esp. since there are two major sets of things people are likely to be urgently contacting me about, with two different sets of people they should talk to if I am not here). - Marianne
Yeah, the contact info thing is tricky for me in this instance, since neither reference nor circulation is what you might precisely call "staffed" in the summer, but we make do. - Catherine Pellegrino
I should have set one while I was on maternity leave but forgot. Doh. I do it only if I'm really not going to be checking my email. - laura x
I don't...but I also typically check my email even when I'm off/out of the office....primarily because I'm insane. And also it keeps other people out of things they don't need to be involved in - Sir Shuping is just sir
I set one for longer than 1 day out of office. Ours allow for responses only to direct emails--so listservs shouldn't get spammed (I hope). It's pretty common in our campus culture and helps me manage expectations of response. We had wireless at ALA but I didn't have brain capacity for a couple of hours of email at night, so...out of office and I just cleaned things out yesterday. - Hedgehog
I used to but don't now unless it is overseas where I have limited email access.The manage expectation part is why I am considering adding it back in, even though I do (typo) check my email when on leave. - aaron
If you do it, for God's sake refrain from emailing people when it's active. So irritating to reply to an email and get an out-of-office message. - JffKrlsn from Android
At MPOW I don't have access to email offsite (and, in fact, I don't want to) so I set an out of office message identifying who can help while I'm away. Principals in my lab know how to contact me when I'm offsite (another email address which I can get to from offsite) for something urgent+important. - henry
hijack: Does anybody else get people posting direct research/tech questions to your social media accounts when they know you're out of office? Because I am, and I'm trying to be nice while telling my friends to back up. (I do set out of office messages because our AUL asks us to and for reasons identical to Iris's above.) - kaijsa
I set my out-of-office email message for times when I'm not going to reply to office email. That way when someone needs something immediately they know know not to wait for me to respond. I usually only do this when I'm going to be out of town. - John: Thread Killer
Stephen Francoeur
The problem with threshold concepts via @instapaper
The problem with threshold concepts via @instapaper
Interesting post. - JffKrlsn from Android
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