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Rick Warren pulled the anti-gay language from his Web site. http://www.americablog.com/2008...
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via lfg - http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article... FAQ page at the Saddleback Church that contained their policy statements on dinosaurs, evolution, and homosexuality (among other subjects) has suddenly been wiped clean: Saddleback Church: Small Group Information. But Google’s cache has a copy as it appeared on December 16, 2008.
- Jeff Evans
Maybe a step in the right direction? Is Obama making progress?
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
You cannot escape Google cache.
- Russellreno
Even if you cannot escape Google cache, it's obvious someone got to him and told him to do the right thing. KUDOS!
- Helen Sventitsky
What is hilarious is their mishmash of Bible translations on the pages. TLB isn't even a translation! It's a paraphrase! It is as if they had a committee searching to find which translation was the most anti-gay. This is an inerrant document to them. You would think they would show it some respect.
- James Little
dota is cool http://www.dota.com
- xuzizhan
from Nambu
Instead of looking for the negativity in this removal, look at it as a start of his education. A positive in my opinion. You will not change some people's opinion - ever. Some people will take a long time to educate.
- Robert Couture
Dave has identified one thing, and James Little has identified another thing, that is probably causing a huge firestorm of protest against Rick Warren right now. As some people know, Rick Warren is very controversial among some circles of conservative Christians, for sins such as (a) using a mishmash of Scripture translations and paraphrases to make a non-scriptural point (as James noted), (b) denying what are seen as basic Christian doctrines (as Dave noted), and...
- Ontario Emperor
...(c) associating with evil Holocaust-loving abortionists such as Barack Obama (as many noted when Warren's appearance at the inaugural was announced). I'll check my sources, but I suspect that Warren is really being raked over the coals now.
- Ontario Emperor
just proves to me what I though all along, Rick Warren is after social praise. If he believed what the Bible says, he would not change.
- Darren
Happy anniversary to me. One more year and we hit double digits.
Congrats! I remember the first time I saw you 2 sitting side by side on a couch, you both looked like you had just been making out.
- Jeff Evans
Obama is kicking ass on Stephanopoulous. So proud of him.
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Obama "my Muslim faith" -- did he really just say that? yikes -- http://tinyurl.com/66pc58
- Jeff Evans
overslept & missed it, stuck w/george will & david brooks...UGH. let me know when it is posted online.
- R. Ferguson
No, Jeff, he didn't. Quit the Republican trolling.
- Alexander Carlill
Did he really just do that? Um
- Blake N. Cooper
uh, yea Alexander - he did just say that.
- Jason Kintzler
oh FFS anyone who seriously believes that urban legend needs a reality check.
- Rachel Luxemburg
Rachel, see link http://tinyurl.com/66pc58
- Jason Kintzler
Nice try Jeff & Jason, but that video cuts out the most important part at the end. Watch the whole thing here: http://abcnews.go.com/Video... , relevant part starts at -3:00 of the third video in the playlist (Obama: McCain has suggested that I am a Muslim).
- Jasmin Patry
Argument for deleting comments here?
- Hutch Carpenter
It seems like Limbaugh has popped a couple extra oxycontins and is spewing an undending stream of nonsense, and the dittoheads are on the loose trying desperately to see if they can get traction with any of it. I haven't actually listened to his radio program, since a few minutes of it causes me to projectile vomit at the radio. But its like there's a Mormon convention in town, and the...
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- Indio Apache
from twhirl
I'd almost like to see them win just to force them to mop up the disaster they've created, but no, thank you, 8 years will do, they must be relieved of duty. The inner circle of Republicans knows and admits Obama has the election in the bag, and he'll have the House and Senate too. And he'll need it, given the disastrous state of the country the Republicans have created. [test of FF message limit. more than the 140 on twitter]
- Indio Apache
from twhirl
Steve: Theres a work around -type your comment elsewhere and paste it in. that gets around the limit.
- Roberto Bonini
If this clip gets traction and is influential in any way, our country will officially be full of a bunch of ignorant fools. WATCH THE ENTIRE INTERVIEW. Ridiculous.
- Blake N. Cooper
@stagekid: isn't our country already officially full of a bunch of ignorant fools? how else do you explain 8 years of GWB?
- Scott Jarkoff
This must be stopped (Scripting News) - http://www.scripting.com/stories...
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"At some point Obama and the Democrats are going to have to fight back, and it better be soon. McCain's involvement in corruption should be handled in a gloves-off way. Wes Clark's statement that being shot down and imprisoned, while sad is in fact not a qualification for President. The age issue ought to be brought up in a personal way -- related to McCain's stumbles and appearance. Question his mental ability, and how it's not going to get better as McCain ages. Question his health, he's a cancer survivor. Question his education, his honesty, how he treated his first wife, how he cheated on his current wife, and her drug addiction, is she paying taxes on all her property? How many McMansions does McCain need? He's had a government health care program his whole life, how in touch could he be with your life as you deal with medical issues without insurance and face the prospect of losing your home. This guy has 12 homes and a private jet. How out of touch can you get!"
- Dave Winer
from Bookmarklet
The negative approach is so lame. Be the change.
- Jeff Evans
I can see the placards now... Stop Gezzer on Git LOVE!
- Cyndy
Jeff - the negative approach is the only approach that works in America. Americans love winners in street fights. The candidate who displays the higher level of testosterone, aggression, toughness, etc. usually wins. Sad but true. If you look like a pushover, the American public will hold you in contempt. It's probably already too late for Obama, the weird skinny egghead with a slick line of patter and no fixed principles, to go on the attack -- he's already been taken down.
- Sean McBride
Here's the thing - Obama never was for "change". Look at his political record in Chicago - the man has used loopholes and smears, done favors for large contributors, made shady financial deals and all the rest of it. Not only is he just a politician, he is a fairly bad example of one. He was always goign to go negative, play the race issue up and so on. Now though he will get a pass on even that from his supporters who will claim he was forced to become what he already was.
- Soulhuntre
FOUR MORE YEARS!
- tj hanton
Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. Soulhuntre's assessment of Barack Obama was probably correct all along: a con artist with a glib line of patter who fooled the gullible until they noticed that his positions were all over the map. The friendly face of McCainism and neoconservatism, not a change agent in the slightest. I feel like a moron for having giving him any support at all.
- Sean McBride
Dave, those are excellent points. Never thought of the health insurance angle.
- Ro (Lilyhill)
Obama is going to lose an all out street brawl. Not because he is to innocent, but because he isn't at all innocent. They shady real estate deals, the huge campaign payments to weird "consultants" at odd addresses, the huge contributions from foreign interests, the huge govt program awards to charities he was part of and so on. He is far from clean handed.
- Soulhuntre
Dave: the key to negative campaigning is not to attack too many points (which dilutes your impact), but to concentrate on the very few points on which a candidate is most vulnerable and then bang them like a gong, over and over and over again. The Republicans have understood this simple rule for quite a few years now. The Democrats still don't get it. Go for the candidate's weakest...
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- Sean McBride
I'm sorry, what has to be stopped? Don't kid yourself and think that BOTH sides don't pull the same crap. Neither side is below anything.
- Kreg Steppe
What is amusing is the pervasive fiction that the Dems are somehow to sweet and innocent to know how to fight dirty. Its an amazing PR job.
- Soulhuntre
god that picture never gets old
- Ryan
Loserville: How Obama Blew It http://tinyurl.com/5jf2ve (Obama blew it with the help of the neoconservatives who own and control the Democratic Party lock, stock and barrel, and who would prefer to see John McCain win the election than for Obama to take a strong stand against neocon policies of endless warfare against a long list of neocon enemies.)
- Sean McBride
Kreg- Are you kidding? The last time a democrat got us into a war, most of us here weren't even born. But you are right, it could be worse. Woodrow Wilson makes GW look like a rank underachiever. And hey at least GW isn't openly racist.
- Alex Scoble
LOL the election hasn't even really started and already people are using past tense. Hyperbole FTW!
- Alex Scoble
I hate negative campaigning, but as McCain has demonstrated, it works even when it isn't true. Obama has a lot to work with if he goes negative, McCain is partially senile, thirty years behind on foreign policy, and has more connections to failed Bush policies than any Dem could hope for. I'd rather have Obama go negative and win, than stay on the high road and lose - and end up with 4 more years of the same, or possibly worse.
- William Harryman
wasabi ftw.
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I'll always remember the first time I tried wasabi, that unique heat. Now I'm so used to it that heat is gone :(
- Brandon
Wasabi Peas +1
- l0ckergn0me
Just went to a great Wasabi farm in Nagano over the weekend. Had the best wasabi I've ever had there and even the wasabi ice cream was good. If you've seen Akira Kurosawa's "Dreams," the farm was used for the set in the last short.
- Ray Grieselhuber
Wasabi Peas might be the worst things I've ever eaten. I shiver just thinking about that experience. Wasabi itself isn't bad on sushi, though.
- Zach Underwood
I have a friend who the first time he saw a blob of it ate the whole thing thinking it was avocado!
- Jeff Evans
mmm. Wasabi Peanuts are even better
- Dylan McIntosh
i've never had wasabi peanuts before. peas yes. peanuts no. gotta hit up Little Tokyo when i get back to LA. in the meantime, how evil are you guys? i sometimes get the secret urge to pass of a spoonful of wasabi as green tea ice cream. come on, don't lie. i'm not the only one.
- Christine Lu
After watching this video, I think I want to buy a BlackBerry instead of an iPhone 3G: http://www.youtube.com/watch... - for real?
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Seriously that is bad
- Justin Yost
gawd that was funny
- Jeff Evans
possible viral blockbuster
- Varun Shenoy
from Alert Thingy
I could go wait in line for an iPhone but I know what would happen. I'd get one and be bored before I even unboxed it. I have the 2.0 software and it's boring. What does the phone add? Speed? BFD.
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Apple hasn't had a product I've wanted to buy all year. The last one I bought was an iMac to replace a G4 mainframe. It's pretty nice, but never gave me a thrill. Leopard was a pain in the ass, and after the pain wore off it was boring. I think there's a theme in here somewhere. :-)
- Dave Winer
I'd like to be able to stream music over 3g but I'll be waiting til I can afford a new one first :p
- mjc
I find all the new apps boring. Who wants to type on that tiny little screen. Except for games they're all things I already have better versions of on my laptop. I'd like to get some games but I don't know, it all seems so boring.
- Dave Winer
the extra 8gb (if you get the 16gb) is something...but agreed, not a big enough reason frankly.
- Zee.
For some excitement I'm thinking of quitting blogging and starting a mail list. I think I used to do that a long time ago and I got bored with it. Oh well. Fuck that.
- Dave Winer
Iphone is the new Facebook?
- Brian Sullivan
I phone you phone we all phone for iPhone.
- Dave Winer
adding video chat to the iPhone would have been the next WOW factor, but I can only imagine what that would have done to the already crappy battery life. I'll stick with my basic Samsung t209 for now, though I do wish it had a camera..
- Zach Underwood
Wait a minute, if the first 8GB are boring, what's so exciting about the other 8GB? I have a feeeling they'd be just as boring as the first 8GB. Unless they use a different less boring kind of memory. Do you think they might do that?
- Dave Winer
Dave - didn't you post that old Doc Searls post here? About Apple products being a work of art?
- Hutch Carpenter
I heard you can use the iPhone as a remote for your AppleTV. But I was so bored with the AppleTV I gave it away, so there goes that opportunity for some excitement.
- Dave Winer
I'm pretty entertained with the GPS. Want to see how it does for geocaching.
- Cyndy
Guess I milked that for all it's worth.
- Dave Winer
Dave: it hasn't changed my life. Except I use it a lot more on the Web which drains my battery faster and makes me anxious that I'll be dead soon without a charge. As to excitement, maybe we should all start email mailing lists and take our conversations private. Speaking of which, it's been, what, four months since we've talked on the phone? Maybe that would be exciting.
- Robert Scoble
Dave: if you got the black one you could measure how much crap collects on the back.
- Robert Scoble
Not sure I could stand the suspense of guessing when the batteries would run out. That might be TOO MUCH excitement. I believe in doing nothing to excess. Just the right amount of excitement please. Not too much not too little. I wouldn't be a very good conversationalist right now I'm afraid. I'd probably just talk about talking, if you get my drift.
- Dave Winer
The idea of having a mail list that everyone could talk about might be fun.
- Dave Winer
I think I'm going to start one right now.
- Dave Winer
I could start a walled garden content-distribution system too with a limited number of subscribers, but I already have one Facebook, why do I need another?
- Robert Scoble
A mail list everyone can talk about! http://groups.yahoo.com/group...
- Dave Winer
No matter what I've said about the iPhone, if money was no object, I'd have one. I might treat it like my 9 month-old MacBook and play with it every once in a while, but as time passes, that desire to have the opportunity to play grows.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
from NoiseRiver
Whew, I feel like I'm back in 1999. I'm subscribed to Dave Winer's email newsletter again. :-) Can we party like it's 1999 now too?
- Robert Scoble
I don't agree.. the apps themselves change the phone fundamentally and I've been waiting a long time for them. As for the new phone, the speed and improved location are quite useful. While it's tempting to wait for the 32GB version, I'll probably grab one once there's not a line... next week or so... I'm just not standing in a line for anything. What I really want, though, is a replacement for my three year-old MBP.
- Anthony Citrano
I am about to write about my own feelings about the iPhone 3G, which I spent 5 hours trying to obtain yesterday and now think is just so-so. I told my daughter to keep her old phone
- Francine Hardaway
from twhirl
the thing is why iphone v1 came out - everyone screamed for the 3g functionality. Now we've got it - we complain.
- Zee.
Well the other thing, to Francine (and Dave's) original point is, the greater the anticipation, the harder it is for the product/service/thing to meet the expectations built up in the imagination. This is why, for example, years of stellar restaurant reviews can sometimes end up hurting a place. It's a tightrope in the marketing sphere, and I think over the last year or so Apple's been erring on the side of anticipation, and it may end up stinging a little.
- Anthony Citrano
Ah see, but talking incessantly about the iPhone and how lame it is... that's *not* boring. At least if the behavior of some pundits is any indication.
- Eric P
I love the 2.0 software. Bored? Eh, I've already whittled the number of apps installed but they are the ones I have found use for already and a few games I love. It's significantly more useful to me now than 1.0, approaching my uses for my laptop. That said, it reboots after ~30min constant use between multiple apps. Has happened at least 10 times since yesterday and my phone almost never rebooted before 2.0 (but I also didn't use as many apps nor as much either).
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Dave I will trade you my Windows CE 1.0 PDA for a box of pepperoni pizza, just pay the UPS! Build a phone out of it! Should be more fun than buying iPhone!
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
It's... boring, Dave? Seriously?
- l0ckergn0me
I am completely grooving on it and doing all sorts of stuff on it. Totally smooth. It's all about the attitude. What ya put out, ya get back.
- Jeff Evans
Dave, you must bore quite easily. The new apps & software have made me even more excited by what was already my favorite device. Multiple streaming audio apps, great social applications (and much more to come), fun to fairly amazing games, loads of useful tools, and a large and growing rapidly developer community points the way toward even better apps in the future
- Shannon Clark
In a very real way the iPhone is Apples first "grown up" product that is both complex and attempting to reach outside the fanboy base. So far, Apple has managed to flub it both times. The tool itself is nothing special and the new features are weak this iteration. Basically, by stepping outside their rabid fan bas Apple is having to deliver on the hype - and failing.
- Soulhuntre
Sorry you're bored. Surely there's a phone more exciting for you out there? I have the opposite problem. Since I got the 3G I can't sleep!
- Greg
Awesome. Feel free not to get one then.
- Omar Gallaga
In a year or so, the iphone liek most apple products has managed only to be a niche product for a rabid fanbase. This is what Apple does - what it's good at. That's great, and certainly plays into the elitism / rebellion desires of the owners. It does however show the weakness of the products Apple actually delivers.
- Soulhuntre
In an Iranian Image, a Missile Too Many - The Lede - Breaking News - New York Times Blog - http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2008...
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For its part, Agence France-Presse retracted its four-missile version this morning, saying that the image was “apparently digitally altered” by Iranian state media. The fourth missile “has apparently been added in digital retouch to cover a grounded missile that may have failed during the test,” the agency said. Later, it published an article quoting several experts. Throughout the day, several news sites have taken steps to disown the photograph that they ran on Wednesday, including LATimes.com and MSNBC.com.
- Thomas Hawk
from Bookmarklet
Oh come on - you'd think they would learn that we live in the 21st century by now?
- DAVE ID
Idiots.
- Shawn Farner
We should have caught this on the desk though. It probably got validated in a hurry and wasn't thoroughly checked
- Jon Dillon
Yikes.
- l0ckergn0me
That's amazing. lol
- justine
I find the enthusiasm of media funny. Media should better direct our country's foreign policy than scoring some brownie points on photoshop disasters. How does it matter if one missile failed. What matters is what we are going to do to stop missile proliferation without using our own missile. Scoring such brownie points are kid's play and not media's.
- Krishnan Subramanian
The Iranians should be writing Photoshop tutorials instead of trying to mimic their missle supply!
- John Barker
busted by the Lizard Army
- Jeff Evans
Great story!
- Daan
Nice catch ya'll. Wag the dog indeed!
- Mathew A. Koeneker
http://www.flickr.com/photos... I suck at Photoshop :-(
- AJ Batac
Good that AFP caught it. I've been documenting "fauxtography" in the media: theory.isthereason.com/?p=1164
- Kevin Lim
If the photo would have come the Pentagon instead of Iran's Revolutionary Guard the AP would have checked it out.
- Robert Hafer
@Robert you mean the AFP
- Rubin Sfadj
Animated version http://tinyurl.com/6gg57x
- Oldengrey (Jay)
@RobertHafer, the AFP ran the unedited, doctored satellite photos prior to the war in Iraq.
- Prolific Programmer
Looks like one of their missiles didn't fire!
- Ben Metcalfe
from twhirl
"If you suffer from Ballistic Missile Launch Malfunction, then Misalys may be right for you..."
- Live4Emma (L4S)
5 to 1 they used a pirated copy...they need to download a few Photoshop Podcasts for some tips on cloning...better yet, download "You Suck at Photoshop"...
- Live4Emma (L4S)
That is incredibly disturbing; the Photoshop clone tool will prolly be the cause of the button press on the next significant US-involved conflict.
- Clay Newton
Photography can be a powerful tool and terribly politically influential. I watched a photography documentary recently that cited the famous photo of a buddhist monk lighting himself on fire as the tipping point on the Vietnam involvement with President Kennedy.
- Thomas Hawk
My Dad told me that it was when Cronkite declared the war "unwinnable" after the Tet Offensive that America changed their tune on the war...
- Live4Emma (L4S)
seems the bbc hasnt noticed. now they are showing footage of the missile launch that matches the AP photo and then also different newspaper front pages which published the photos, some using the AFP and others AP, but no mention of this. interesting.
- Katie Ratcliffe
Let's just drop the old one down the memory tubes to get rid of the double-plus-un-true version.
- Nicholas Molnar
Has anybody other than Mike Arrington flashed to the alleged final version of the iPhone 2.0 OS? - http://appldnld.apple.com.edge...
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I just did, via instructions from MG
- Eric Schlissel
from twhirl
Yeah...like 8 hours ago! :P
- Andru Edwards
yeah chris, super simple to do http://venturebeat.com/2008...
- MG Siegler
Yeah, but how do you KNOW it's final?
- l0ckergn0me
well it works without a hitch for everything i've tried. if it isn't final i'm happy enough.
- MG Siegler
Better hope you guys don't become early Brickdopters http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Mark Krynsky
Yep hours ago, works a treat but as some of the apps require better bandwidth than GPRS its obvious that this early release was just Apple's way of guaranteeing that we all queue up for a 3G version tomorrow
- Jon Dillon
well, I got it from Apple's server. Have they been putting Betas up there?
- Erik S
worked great! even from Vista -- took a bit up doing to upgrade iTunes to 7.7 first, and had to dig around and learn that the Shift key is the Option key in Windoze -- and use Firefox to download that iPhone1,2_2.0_5A347_Restore.ipsw file -- once I had all that, blammo, less than 10 minutes -- off to the App Store!
- Jeff Evans
"Ask in your story how this guy Drudge became king of aggregation and not the WashPost," says I. The Fix ignores my advice: http://is.gd/Q1B
simple -- one piece of html that he has -- <script type="text/javascript"> var timer = setInterval("autoRefresh()", 1000 * 60 * 3); function autoRefresh(){self.location.reload(true);} </script> ----- and, no RSS feed
- Jeff Evans
Introducing bit.ly: http://bit.ly/2lkCCn - http://identi.ca/notice/52300
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Hey Dave, are there plans to integrate this into a service like Twhirl. If it is to be truly successful, it could start off on the right foot by insuring integration into these Adobe AIR applications.
- James Mowery
from twhirl
thanks Dave and all involved - much appreciated - it's on my Firefox browser toolbars on Ubuntu and Windoze Vista now
- Jeff Evans
very nice implementation.
- jakebf
let's see if this Ping.fm postie goes to FriendFeed now -- so that all I figured out over the weekend is happening rightly
yep
- Jeff Evans
one more try to see it land at Facebook -- permissions set there this time :)
still waiting.......
- Jeff Evans
identi.ca gets a Replies tab and becomes a billion percent less shitty
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Totally agree.
- Robert Scoble
Friend import next please and then it might be useful
- sam sethi
from Alert Thingy
sam, I think the point is that if Twitter et al implement Open Microblogging, importing won't be necessary
- Kevin L
It needs some "recommended friends" to avoid looking really lame to newbies.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, you just want to get recommended there too. Come on, admit it.
- Kevin L
klecu: nice try, but I've been talking about this before I was on recommended systems here: http://thenextweb.org/2008...
- Robert Scoble
I'm still trying to figure out a reason to use identi.ca. Playing around with it. We'll see.
- Dennis Jackson
I don't understand why it was launched WITHOUT a Replies tab in the first place...
- Mark Douglass
I agree with Dennis Jackson, minus the "playing around with it" part.
- ChaCha Fance
Yes, it lacks some basic features, especially if people are looking at it who are coming from twitter. Not having replies really annoys me, enough not to use it.
- jjprojects
GOOD, that is an essential feature... neat to see it growing so quickly - not only with users, but also features
- Susan Beebe
big feature
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Yep - looks like identi.ca has been built correctly so far too. It *appears* to be scaleing up nicely after a few slow days early on.
- Jonathan Beckett
@critics: Identi.ca is worth supporting, because it is open source. The very reason means that it has the potential of attracting third-party developers that create plug-ins, improve the platform or simply host their own Identi.ca-installations. That's a huge thing. Think about Firefox: It is based on Mozilla/Netscape's code, which was created. AOL didn't do anything with it, but others came and created Firefox (and Flock, Sunbird, Songbird, etc.) because it is open. That's Identi.ca's biggest feature.
- sebmos
Next step must be API.
- Sergey Petrenko
sebmos: I'm still learning about Identi.ca. Your comment kind of pushed me back on the site to research it a bit. I can see this going somewhere. :)
- Dennis Jackson
Replies tab on Indenti.ca is big. I'd also like to be able to export my subscription lists. Edit/delete would be nice too.
- Jeff Evans
Nice to see this feature already. I was talking to the dev yesterday and was asking if I can jump in and provide a solution for it. Cool to see that the guy already did it himself :-).
- Alex Popescu
from feedalizr
Mark Douglass - Twitter launched without a replies function as well, you know. And it took a lot longer than a few days for it to arrive.
- Earle Martin
So if we wildly extrapolate identi.ca's usability increase, it could potentially surpass Twitter in 3 months and Friendfeed in 6. The question then is: will users migrate and become critical mass on the new service? By now we know that critical mass is more important than QoS, as evidenced by the bird and the whale.
- Ignacio Rodriguez de R,
http://identi.ca/your_ni... --- for output of your identi.ca subscriptions -- thanks evan
- Jeff Evans
this is so effing awesome!
- Sarah Perez
(s_dance)
- Hao Chen
identi.ca is irrelevant. It's a step backwards from FriendFeed.
- Thomas Hawk
Whoa, that must of been some seriously shitty software before now, but still shitty I see?
- Andrew Baron
This still is not the distributed version you wanted Dave. And I -with all the respect I owe to its makers- don't think that it will success if all the twitter crowd come in. I hope I'm wrong
- directeur
from NoiseRiver
I think Replies is a setup in the right direction. In fact. it might be the main step. Awesome.
- Andrew Ruess
from twhirl
For me, it's still just idont.ca.re
- Alan Le
Agree with Alan Le. identi.ca doesn't seem like much of an upgrade. It's a distraction from a better solution - getting everyone over to FriendFeed.
- Jon Galloway
Yep, i'm with Jon there... I really don't see the fuss Identi.ca . Why are we getting excited over replies...ridiculous.
- Zee.
These products are all so new. There's plenty or room for experimentation.
- Harry Myhre
Thanks, Dave! And thanks to everyone who had comments and critiques. I know that people have a choice in which service to use. I'd like to make sure that a) the software has features equal or better to other µblog sites b) the architecture is truly scalable -- from small commodity web hosting to >1M user megaservices.
- Evan Prodromou
New blog post: Why FriendFeed is growing faster than Twitter http://www.scripting.com/stories...
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the "chasing" and "awkward" ness of it all is what affects me most. well stated.
- Carlos Ayala
Piggybacking is almost always effective
- Justin Yost
Why is FF growing faster than Twitter? Easy. It's better.
- AJ Kohn
Ff is allowing me to see more conversations, allowing me to customize the views (Through subscriptions to people).
- LPH™ and his dog P™
I had sworn off saying anything Twitter or FF related, but ... Don't be deceived by early-adopter first-300,000 numbers, particularly in terms of rates of growth. Trendy social valley-tech is always exponential at first, which skews growth comparisons. You could also say FF is growing faster than Facebook, MySpace, Google, or Yahoo. Even Twitter is already past the initial 300k, and hence has moved into mainstream and maintsream-esque adoption rates. Give FF 6 months, then compare again.
- DeWitt Clinton
Also, "FriendFeed is tacking in the draft behind Twitter, it's growing faster than Twitter did in its early days". I'd believe that, but I'd love to see #'s that show it.
- DeWitt Clinton
both can continue. FF is way over a lot of people's heads. Lots of my friends would run screaming from FF, but they _might_ use Twitter. Because twitter is very simple.
- Harry Myhre
More focused community. Better uptime. Geekier crowd.
- David Risley
Harry, I totally agree. And to all who say FF is so vastly superior because of its discussion feature, I notice that the discussions often are about as mindless as other discussions elsewhere on the Internet. The software may be more elegant, but people are still as lazy as ever. How many of you commented on this piece before you read it? I have a pretty good idea when I read some of the responses which are in no way responsive to what the piece says. Now where is the progress in that?
- Dave Winer
That's why when people say it's all about the conversation I think they need to think some more, where did they get that idea, and do they really agree? Is the point just to see your name in someone else's discussion thread or is the idea to learn and become smarter and figure stuff out and be more powerful. I guess you know my opinion. I think most of it comes from Doc Searls's line that Markets Are Conversations. I don't think he had in mind some of the crap that passes through these fora.
- Dave Winer
FriendFeed is designed for sharing things and generating conversation around those shares (bi0directional communication tool); whereas, Twitter is a unidirectional comm tool designed more for broadcasts (tweets) ...not so great for conversations. FriendFeed aggregates nearly 50 social media app feeds in 1 spot. Twitter can bearly host its own dang service!
- Susan Beebe
Dave, I read your post on scripting.com -- it was right on. I'm digging Ping.fm because it lets me post to multiple places at once (and from my iPhone). I need the reverse -- something along the lines of TweetDeck, that sucks in all the content from everyone I'm subscribed to/follow. Right now I'm chasing news from many of the same people and feeds in too many places. So get to work and build us something :). Also, I need more undo/edit capability. FriendFeed is nice that way.
- Jeff Evans
Very well stated. Loved: "we're forever going to be chasing our news from place to place as it gets replicated in ever more awkward ways."
- George Smith
Removing my Twitter stream from my FriendFeed stream. Why? Ping.fm supports posting directly to FriendFeed now. :) Social networks, untied.
Bryan Landers, Igor Poltavskiy, Diana Valerini and 38 other people liked this
WOOOHOOO! Exactly what I've been waiting for!
- Bradley McSpinn
And now...we see if FF will kill Twitter. Probably not but, I bet a lot of others will remove their Twitter feeds as well.
- Candace
Great. Now we can't hide your Twitter updates without also hiding your FF updates. There's a trade-off for everything! :-)
- Josh Bancroft
I gotta get an invite /code to ping.fm. Anyone have any? Let me know at evanstj (at) gmail.
- Tim
from Alert Thingy
@Tim - Tell them to use beta code "pingyoulater" so they can get in on the beta action!
- Bradley McSpinn
Josh, I don't think you understand - I've completely removed my Twitter account link from here to keep from reposting the same stuff unnecessarily. This makes things better for everyone, not worse. Ping.fm is becoming an indispensable "native updates" tool. If you use both Twitter and FriendFeed, you need to use Ping.fm to post the same thing to both places (and then, potentially remove Twitter from FriendFeed).
- l0ckergn0me
Can I ask sort of a dumb question as I try to to unify my online world? I can see how ping.fm will help me send the same message to various networks, but how are most of you then reading all the responses afterwards? Aren't we stuck having to go to six different networks to read all the various and separate responses?
- Neil Kramer
I've been waiting for this as well. Awesome!
- Joanmarie
Chris, I understand what ping.fm does, and what you're doing. Partly, I'm giving you a hard time. And partly, I'm making the argument that Twitter is just as good a "native updates" tool - a place to write - as ping.fm. This is why I love FriendFeed - I don't have to care, and be on the same tool, to get updates. Let us know how it goes!
- Josh Bancroft
Neil, I don't think that's a dumb question -- mainly because I've been asking it myself lately. :-) Maybe we need a reverse ping.fm to get all of those updates in one place. I've considered using friendfeed to make a bunch of "imaginary friends" to add their services, but that will take a long time. So.... I dunno.... It is an issue.
- Joanmarie
Whoooooooo! Ping.fm FTW!
- Joe
Thanks! I just did the same. The other thing I just did was to remove Tumblr from Ping.fm -- I'm going to use Tumblr primarily for images, video and audio and put them and an occasional text post there directly. So far everything is making it across as I want it to Facebook too. I have the Ping.fm and Tumblr apps installed there. It was a bit wacko figuring out how to glue everything...
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- Jeff Evans
i had already removed twitter from ff - ping.fm rocks!
- Dieter Schwarz
What is ping.fm? ... Ah, got it.
- Ansgar Wollnik
What web page or app (for OS X, Ubuntu, & Windoze) reads all I'm following on Twitter, FF and indenti.ca ? Facebook I can do direct.
- Jeff Evans
Agree ... but haven't figured out a good SIMPLE way to reply to a "tweet" using ping.fm ... FF comments stay "in house"
- Christopher Perry
Not bad reply tweet in friendfeed,twitter is also a social web service.
- Chris Qie
Thank gawd someone finally sees the light
- Steven Hodson
I'm trying the same thing, but now I have to browse my microblog sites (twitter, pownce, identi.ca) sites manually in order to see replies. Unless I take the time to bring in all my friends to FF.
- Bill Bittner
My name is Bwana, and I approve this message
- Bwana ☠
I didn't add FriendFeed to Ping.FM, only Twitter. I guess it is the reverse situation, but works.
- David Risley
Nice so doing this
- adolfo foronda
I tried updating Friendfeed from Ping.fm using the @ff but it didn't work.
- Steve Rubel
so just a sec, does that mean no more responding via friendfeed to twitter if everyone does this? We'd have to visit both sites no?
- Zee.
I thought everybody likes FF cause you can interact with everything here. how do you interact with twitter from FF if your twitter is not incorporated? (that said, I am considering removing twitter from FF myself but for entirely different reasons.)
- Sebastian Keil
Why? What's wrong with just importing Twitter?
- Pat Hawks
I find myself not bothering with ping.fm (as cool as it is) simply because its write-only.
- Hal Rottenberg
from twhirl
FriendFeed should work within Ping.fm again, but no word from FriendFeed as to what happened - and if it'll get blocked again. I don't know anybody at FriendFeed.
- l0ckergn0me
Great tip!
- Mark Nassal
umm... like "one ping to rule them all"?
- Laura Scott (@lauras)
from Alert Thingy
fantastic tip! I just did the same! Done and done!
- Jeff McCord
from twhirl
FF is working from Ping.fm at this time, but there is a disclaimer...
- Robert
How are you guys getting your ping.fm stuff into FF at this point?
- Robert
Well, finally a reason to use my ping.fm account. I'm going to give this a shot. :)
- Dennis Jackson
Posting to FF via Ping.fm does not seem to be working after a couple tests. Sad. Must be the rate limit thing. Hope it comes back.
- Dennis Jackson
That sucks... They changed there message and said they were working to bring it back...
- Robert
friendfeed shares usually include something 'useful' whereas twitter is something to be filtered out more times than not. in removing your friend feed and replacing it by being posted 'directly' into the system you reduced the value of your ff shares.
- Nicole Simon
BrightKite anyone? I have 5
Wendy J. Roan liked this
i would like one - bastianlehmann at gmail dot com. thanks
- Bastian
Bastian, did you get that invite from Mona?
- Ryan Gallagher
oops was I supposed to send someone a brightkite? I don't have anymore :(
- Mona Nomura
I have 5 if anyone wants one
- Kathleen Anderson
i've got another 5
- Graham Garland
i sent one to Bastian. - (4 left)
- Graham Garland
just got it. thanks!
- Bastian
i have 2 left
- Jeff Evans
may I please have an invite for brightkite - wendyjroan at gmail dot com . Thanx!
- Wendy J. Roan
Wendy should have one. - (3 left)
- Graham Garland
Thank You! Got it and all signed up. :)
- Wendy J. Roan
Would be interested in one if you still have one free please? I'm in the mood for new services it seems...
- Matt Harwood
Matt: On its way. Have fun!
- Vincent X
See that "Recommend This" link at the top of the coworking article? Please click it! I know you can do it! http://is.gd/Ms6
done
- Jeff Evans
Off to Napa Valley, any tips? - http://www.seesmic.com/video...
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Marshall Sponder, Carlos Ayala, fbrunel and 2 other people liked this
Go to eat at a french bistro in the middle of Yountville, very good wine and steaks. Pretty close to french quality.
- fbrunel
Domaine Chandon in St. Helena. Enjoy some sparkling wine on the back patio.
- Mike Doeff
Mustards in Napa is pretty good. If you make it to Sonoma, try the Girl and the Fig
- Tim FitzGerald
Restaurant Cuvee (nice courtyard), Zuzu (tapas), Angele (bistro w/terrace), Cole's Chop House (best steak in town), Annalien (Vietnamese) all popular local Napa venues.Terra, St Helena.
- Dave Martin
vineyard-wise there are two I would not miss - Clos Pegase (for the artwork as well as the wine) and, if you can make time to get to Sonoma, I'd swing by Matanzas Creek (gorgeous lavender if its not too late in the season). Enjoy.
- Barry Graubart
from twhirl
I second the "Girl and the Fig" recommendation.
- Tom Landini
thank you all for your recommendations!
- Loic Le Meur
Go to Bouchon, the pomme frites are a must have.
- Jerry Schuman
French Laundry (3 stars Michelin) for Loic by Thomas Keller...considered one of best chefs in country.
- Pokai
but you can only make a reservation for French Laundry exactly 3 months to the day you want to go in advance. On the phone. Only.
- edythe
Going in a few weeks....please pass on what you learn
- Erin @queenofspain
French Laundry was booked :(
- Loic Le Meur
It's Bistro Jeanty (http://www.bistrojeanty.com/), the one I was talking about. Very good.
- fbrunel
Loic, I would have been very impressed if you had gotten a table at FL as a walk-in. edythe wasn't joking about booking 3 months in advance.
- Mike Doeff
Mike, agreed, I told them I had thousand of friends on Friendfeed but they still did not want to let me in ;) @fbrunel I booked at bistrojeanty and will report.
- Loic Le Meur
we live in Napa - here's our A+ list: Bouchon in Yountville! also Wappo in Calistoga, and the restaurant at the Culinary Institute of course -- all great! Mustards, yes but not Zuzu imho -- and in Napa downtown - Angele, Ubuntu, Julia's Kitchen, the Oxbow Wine Merchant (great cheeses too) & Pizza Azzuro. Be sure to go to the Vitner's Collective in Napa for GREAT wines -->http://www.vintnerscollective.com/ -- and definitely do some of the Silverado side of the valley for wine tasting.
- Jeff Evans
I got into FL on one day's notice, for brunch. They put me on a wait list then called two hours prior to tell me I was "in." Had made other plans, so I turned them down. You could hear the shock in the voice on the other end of the line. Talk about satisfaction. Really, it's time to get over this elite meet and greet stuff, people. They are yanking your chains.
- Mary Trigiani
Food at this level is an art...w/ high quality ingredients and staff. To understand the difference between the time and cost to make food at this level vs. $10 entrees is to understand life.
- Pokai
A photo of my meal at Bistro Jeanty for those interested — http://flickr.com/photos... — filet au poivre avec St Clement. :) Very good, I recommend.
- fbrunel
i'm hungry now.... :(
- Pokai
:)
- fbrunel
In France we would say that if you're not talking during lunch (or diner) it means it's good! Since Loic hasn't tweet for a while, I assume he's enjoying his meal. :)
- fbrunel
I had the best steak au poivre EVER. Now tarte tatin.
- Loic Le Meur
okay I think I am going to book to Bouchon tonight, two french in a row in Napa :)
- Loic Le Meur
went to Angele and was very disappointed. Average food, small quantities, the terrace is nice but the food and service quite low. Bistrojeanty was 9.5/10 Angele was 5/10.
- Loic Le Meur
you can get into French Laundry within a couple of days. we got a res for Thursday night with 2 days notice. Just call and get on the waitlist. They called back in 20 minutes with an 8pm res on a holiday weekend. you just have to know how to do it.
- mary
thanks Mary, will try for next time
- Loic Le Meur
Yeah, I was at the Copia Institute last year for a conference and it's really nice over there. Also, I've wanted to take the Wine Train around Napa Valley - it seems to me that's one thing to do if your in Napa, but that's just me ... and I only get out your way about twice a year.
- Marshall Sponder
Excuse moi Loïc, sit tu si Loudtwitter fonctionne toujours ? Merci ;)
- Jean-Marie Gall
from twhirl
Training my brain with http://Lumosity.com. If there were some way to prevent Alzheimers I'd do it.
James Fridley, Steve Rubel, Roger Benningfield and 8 other people liked this
guys do sudoku at the firehall ,,leo
- johnpiercy
Someone tweeted me the site http://fitbrains.com - seems similar to Lumosity but it's free. And, of course, I've done Brain Age on the DS. Similar games.
- Leo Laporte
Leo, I think if you love what you are doing and are excited every day about life and can't wait to get up and doing, then your brain will still rock on WAY into your 100s. You got the juice Leo! You'll last all the way. The bliss of being engaged in something exciting, inspiring, helpful, etc --- that's the best for me to keep my mind clear. That and a book to index on molecular neuropharmacology!
- Jeff Evans
Has anyone used both Lumosity and Fit Brains that can recommend one? $7/month isn't bad, and is half the price of WoW. :-P
- Matthew Horton
I do this kind of thing all of the time. I recently decided to go back and revisit algebra and calculus just for the mental exercise.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Thanks Leo for the links to Lumosity and FitBrains - cool
- Susan Beebe
Susan Beebe just tweeted FitBrains. I'm about to sign up for it now. Looks fun :)
- Corvida
I'm interested in seeing what MindHabits is all about. http://tinyurl.com/67tzhl
- Clay Hummer
from twhirl
@jeffevans try http://www.swurl.com/, although not sure indenti.ca is on their list
the Friends tab at Swurl doesn't show everyone I follow -- maybe 10% -- I wonder how the set that is there is built
- Jeff Evans
must be from those who are also subscribed to Swurl
- Jeff Evans
Why I'd Leave Twitter - A Video Response To Robert Scoble - http://qik.com/video/120649
Evan Prodromou, Shey, Jamaican of FF, Amadou M. Sall and 17 other people liked this
greeeat stuff! - "i can't get to the conversation" - yep.
- jeneane sessum
I think @scobleizer's point about Twitter was how well it interfaces with FF and while not a conversation facilitator, it is a conversation starter that can be carried on over here on FF. I don't really think you'll be leaving Twitter. My hope is that we can get all of these services interoperating and stable. Twitter has an established community and I think that was also @scobleizer point.
- James
@James An established community that's inaccessible the majority of the time. I shouldn't have to carry my conversations on Twitter somewhere else.
- Corvida
@corvida ... Stability and reliability are the key. I think Twitter will get it right in the end.
- James
has robert been able to get scobleizer back from whoever has it at indenti.ca?
- Jeff Evans
You have made your point. Don't you still see potential in twitter once it gets its act together? They had not anticipated such growth so cannot totally flaw them for their constant service interruptions.
- Tate DA FF MVP
@corvida - You're absolutely right - Twitter, at least for the time being, isn't where the conversation is happening - it's happening here, on FF. Twitter still has a lot of goodwill in the community - if they get their act together, we will all jump back on the bandwagon. In the long run, I think they will get things up and running again.
- Frederic
here here!
- Zee.
Why return to Twitter when the FriendFeed logo looks just like Twitter's? Seriously, FF is missing a few self-promotional features but other than that its functionality exceeds that of Twitter.
- Terris Linenbach
@Tatenda I still see potential in Twitter now. I'm not denying that I'll be back there if and once it gets it together. Until then, it's just kind of moot for me since the conversation is inaccessible on my end.
- Corvida
It will be up and running but by then everybody would have been gone
- Gordon Swaby
I'm still over at twitter more often than on FF for conversations and quick updates, and think that the simplicity gives it a lot of traction
- Bill Thompson
from twhirl
Swurl: Your Lifestream, Made Beautiful - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
Jonathan Neddenriep, Ryan Sit, yuzuru and 14 other people liked this
Hey just what I need, another feed aggreagtor. What would be more useful is one site where I could keep all this info up to date then have people put their twists on it. For instance Swurl could have just taken my list from Friendfeed to create my page and I would have one less thing to maintain.
- John Cooper
@John You mean like a feed aggregator for feed aggregators? Clever. ;-)
- Mike
Some nice ideas that I haven't seen elsewhere - particularly like the Flickr slideshow, and the calendar view is really nice. I think it has a way to go to get too many people switching though.
- Richard Peat
yeah, i like the way it looks, but it needs more functions... maybe IM or something.... or it's own status update like twitter
- c010depunkk
from twhirl
Wow. Fastest setup time ever! had all services linked up in less than 5 minutes.
- Andy Lewandowski
from twhirl
One thing I'm not diggin is the increasing lack of undo that I'm finding here and there. Swurl is one place. indenti.ca another. Typos are also a drag where they can't be edited. FriendFeed is nice this way. I can edit. Blogs aren't much of a problem. Microblogs like Twitter and indenti.ca and an aggregator like Swurl are however.
- Jeff Evans
The other thing I have to remember is where to post where for what! :) -- Ping.fm helps alot. I finally have iPhone, Twitter, indenti.ca, Facebook, Tumblr, FriendFriend all playing nice with each other. Took a full day of noodling though.
- Jeff Evans
Wow swurl showed my activities as far back as 2006. Got to savor those delicious links I had bookmarked once upon a time.
- Arvind
John: it's actually more like a "instant blog creator", showing all your content (not only headlines or tiny previews) embedded and in full length, even videos you favorited, and all that in your own look (you can use your own CSS). But it sure lacks an edit function and much more
- Gaby K. Slezák
It does have a nice look. I am imagine some more features will be coming. Edits especially.
- Andy Lewandowski
from twhirl
My blog archives already look like this because I use Tumblr: http://dembot.com/archive
- Andrew Baron
If you watch one video today, this is the one to watch - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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hackr, Oliver Thylmann, Nenad Nikolic and 146 other people liked this
halfway through and rotflmao ...
- Dan Haley
Is this from the You Suck at Photoshop guys?
- Vince DeGeorge
donnie is back today, maybe the competition made him show up again
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
"what email?" "you just powered off the exchange server" "just the letter a" "don't use aol" "salesforce.com was on the right testicle"
- Ranjit Mathoda
That was a good use of ten minutes. I'm smiling again.
- Russellreno
Ok, after watching the new YSAP - This is much much better - flavor of the week to be sure.
- Vince DeGeorge
I'm crying. The details in this were just great. I don't work in IT but I know this is what people must put you folks through...
- Kamilah Gill
That's hilarious!
- fbrunel
that's brilliant. and i'm about ti run out of battery power here, and I won't bookmark, adn I'll probably 4get about these guys 4eva. what a shame!!!
- john conroy
You mean he rebooted the webserver without submitting a Change Request Application with work procedure and rollback steps to the Change Advisory Board for review at their next weekly meeting? ;-)
- Stuart Woodward
Hilarious!!
- Satya
amusing.."how many times did u reboot?" ...
- Jaimini
from Alert Thingy
I love the part where he deletes all his files and the guy thanks him for putting his desktop back the way it was.
- Dave Winer
LOL you can't arrange Icons by Penis
- Chris Saad
from twhirl
He just kept shooting him in the crotch over and over and over LOL.....
- Avery Tingle
this is hilarious!
- Michael Stearne
from twhirl
Yeah, who hasn't known this IT guy? Too darn funny.
- Jim Kukral
and so absolutely true
- Jeff Evans
"This is going right onto Boing Boing." Hilarious!
- Adam
On the Fedora installation, why is the guy running as root?
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
nice
- Anthony
Arggggg!
- bill giltner
yup
- Marc Canter
:)) I was getting very frustrated with FF's best of the day page, showing mostly meta-links about FF itself all the time. And then this. Once in a while, there is one single link that makes all these page loads worth it :)
- Yaniv Golan
Did this win some kind of award?
- Dave Winer
That made my day
- Greg Goodwin
that video kills! cant wait to show the rest of the techs at work
- Mark Schulz
"What's BoingBoing?" - very funny.
- Maury Estabrooks
LMAO for most of the 10 min. Will fwd to several IT peeps I know...and maybe a few peeps at Twitter. Wonder if they'll think it's funny.
- Cathryn Hrudicka
Excellent....
- David W
makes me want to rearrange my desktop more creatively
- Pete Delucchi
that was hilarious. wow!
- David Adam
Rofl that's a ton of likes! guess I gotta!
- Frankie Warren
LOL, really great ! That's why my website's so slow :))
- Heimana
lol. too funny
- Alexander Marktl
Way too realistic. :-)
- Doug Kaye
you can't arrange by penis
- Tyler Gillies
excellent. thanks for the post Dave.
- Kevin Doohan
STUPID WEB DUDE. he should have asked the sales guy to check if the website is up on other computers or in a different department.
- Hanan Cohen
So funny, I truly have not laughed so much in such a long time. tyvm :)
- David Smith
wow!! So unreal!! And I now know what happens with all the network mgmt software I develop!
- Shivanand Velmurugan
"Maybe that's not what I meant."
- Kawika Holbrook
The realism of this thing is just awe-inspiring. That techie behave pretty much like any techie I've ever encountered who's been asked to do a stupid task. And the sales dude is lethally real too. This is Dilbert meets The Office on steroids. Thanks for the link.
- Roy Blumenthal
from twhirl
A Classic
- Ken
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