My dad was 21 and my mother 20 when I was born; he was stationed at Phu Bai, and didn't find out for 3 days that I was born. There was no internet, and the fighting was very intense. At one point they burned all the paper and had the base ready to be evacuted
- RAPatton
I wish I had pictures of my Dad in the military to show you guys. I don't even think my parents have any. My Dad was in the Air Force for 24 years, and served in Vietnam as well.
- A. (Girl Entropy)
What a fabulous collection of pictures and items from that time! Happy Veterans Day to your dad!
- Katie: Witch Of The West
I'll see if I have some pics of my dad while he served in Vietnam. Happy Veterans Day.
- Derrick
So... your pappy must be pretty close to my age. I turned 18 in 1972 and registered for the draft. They had instituted the draft lottery by then, so everything depended on my lottery number, based on my date of birth. I remember being in college and wondering whether I was going to be drafted, and then they announced the draft number for October 19th... it was 365. Phew! But I also had...
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- Mark Jepsen
I'm proud that I haven't gotten so desperate in the job search as to setup a modern day Vandelay Industries. Which, come to think of it, would actually be pretty easy nowadays... *resists temptation*
Are you an importer/exporter, or just an importer?
- Craig Eddy
Oh, and Ed I'm talking much bigger than that particular example. Given $100 and half a day, it's 1-2-3 to setup a phoneable, mailable, emailable, searchable 'company'.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Yea but since that name is taken it will take you a month to think of a name that doesn't suck that isn't already domain squatted. Once you have then yes, a half a day.
- Ed Millard
How about Amandaley Industries? Amandaley.com is available, plus it's just plain funny!!
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
You will get a law suit from Mandalay Bay.....
- Ed Millard
Well if you are gonna get sued you may as well go for the gusto, though it will cut in to the PROFIT part of your business plan... and Johnny Cochrane is dead so no Chewbacca defense.
- Ed Millard
Ed, that's where the evil genius of my plan comes into play. I have no job and funds are low. Sure they could stick me with a judgement, but "Casino Sues Girl In Cackilacky" doesn't make for good press. Or I could just legally change my name to Amanda Ley, in which case I'd just be buying a vanity domain!
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Are you planning to fill in the ???? part in your business plan or are you gonna jump straight to PROFIT like everyone else.
- Ed Millard
Nah, the whole point of Amandaley Industries is to provide the illusion of employment. Since it's always easier to find a job when you have one.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Maybe you could be a head hunter, then you could work both sides of Monster.com
- Ed Millard
You better grab the domain quick, some domain squatter probably already saw this, Gina Tripani was recommending namescheap.com last time I heard.
- Ed Millard
Have you considered a high paying job as a domain squatter, you seem to have experience.
- Ed Millard
lol I love this thread, maybe it's b/c I relate so much and it's easier to laugh than cry. Can I add an extra bit to my title next to "Latex Salesman," though? I never really saw myself in sales. Something important-sounding--like maybe "Consultant." Oh! Or "Consiglieri." When do we start?
- Mike Cavaliere
So basically you are the nerdiest mountain man in all of Australia? I can dig it.
- Sparky Crocker
Find a mo or other disguise for your transformer and take a pic.
- Josh Haley
I would just like to mention that I saw Rochelle's post at 5am this morning (10 hours ago). I have been bugging Rach to go to the shops all day JUST for this shot, which she took in the middle of a crowded supermarket... My wife FTW!
- Johnny Worthington
I was just at the store this afternoon. Should have bought myself some english muffins. I would wake up early if it meant eating those! :)
- Jon, the Beartato of FF
Trader Joe's carries crumpets (or at least they used to) so you can make a side-by-side comparison. To me it looks like what Australians call English muffins and what we call English muffins are the same.
- Spidra Webster
I've still never tried English Muffins. They sell them here in Canada but I never had them in England - they don't exist there!
- WorldofHiglet
Crumpet toast is awesome. That is all
- Glenn Slaven
though one thing I miss here is oven bottoms. Now, *they* were really good....
- WorldofHiglet
"The Internet is not about technology; it's about communication. The Internet connects people who have shared interests, ideas and needs, regardless of geography." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
I like it, but I think it doesn't go far enough. The telephone allows you to communicate. But when you hang up the phone the call is gone. The internet has persistent objects that can be manipulated, so it is also about cooperation and collaboration.
- Neil Kandalgaonkar
Technology sure makes that communication much easier, though. Long live Friendfeed!
- Josh Haley
from iPhone
I always thought the Internet was for porn. At least that's what I learned one year at SXSW.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, you still owe us (me and Joge) $5000, btw ;-)
- directeur
I think porn falls under the connecting people with shared interests and needs. ;-)
- Brian Sullivan
Hmmm -- I think saying the" internet is not about technology, it's about the communication" is like saying driving is not about the car, it's about the journey. I like John Dupuis' way of putting it -- the communication part was an emergent property -- Michael Neilson has interesting things to say on this topic, too, but I've gotta dash so I'll link later.
- Mickey Schafer
YAY, I love the internet. Couldn't agree more. GLOBAL unfettered communication amongst all peoples, socio-economic class, philosophy, etc. is what it's all about; whereas, the technology is there to support the communication layer. THAT is very important in the DESIGN of Information Systems.
- Susan Beebe
The following (wild) question just dawned on me: If in 1440—the approx. year of Gutenberg's press—a global electronic network had magically emerged instead, A) What purpose would the power structure at the time deem for it, and B) How would it actually be used within the first few decades? Hundred years?
- Micah Wittman
Neil: different communication formats have varying values for similar properties, such as bandwidth, delay, and rate of decay
- Mike Chelen
Neil: Good point about persistence, except that Twitter has objects called tweets that last only about 7 days ;)
- Alex Schleber
Alex: one compensating strength is that posts are publicly web accessible, allowing them to be independently mirrored
- Mike Chelen
High communication: words. Medium communication: pictures. Low communication: grunt, poke.
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
Internet = TV + Radio + Books + Newspapers + Magazines + Telephone + Soapbox + [add your medium] = Media melting pot
- Ciro
Actually, the Internet may be about the incarnation of cosmic consciousness, and may not be primarily about anthropocentric intraspecies communication. I only half jest -- sometimes species are only vehicles that don't necessarily understand their function in the big picture, or what they are birthing. With the Internet, one senses something trying to pull itself together that is bigger than human.
- Sean McBride
let's say it again: it's. com. mu. ni. ca. tion. :)
- Alberto D'Ottavi
+1 Mike Chelen; to Ciro, Alberto -- conflating function, social value, and technology diminishes the ability to understand what the "internet" is/does/could be, etc. The internet is not portable; certain technological devices are. The infrastructure that supports portability is inconsistent; radio rarely is. It's very difficult to "listen" to books using the internet; the internet is...
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- Mickey Schafer
I agree with you 100% - The connections made here can't be made anywhere else! The transparency and accessibility of people, good people, is prevalent!
- Angels In Action
I didn't read all the comments above, but I don't think it's just communication. It's also about knowledge, data, availability of knowledge and data. creativity, etc... I'm afraid with this situation of lots of social networks people are a bit too preoccupied by the community-factor. Internet is more than that. Please don't forget that.
- Ton Zijp
To Mickey: 1. "The Internet is not portable; certain technological devices are." splitting hair...Give me the Internet without the "technological devices" as you call them. 2. "The infrastructure is inconsistent..." Video is video, audio is audio...otherwise the TV is also inconsistent and so is the radio and books, I digress on this one. 3. " And I believe it is actually important to...
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- Ciro
Ton, I agree! Ciro -- As someone who teaches undergrads who have to use technology and the net, I can't afford to be blithe about "they can if they want to". One of my interests is the relationship between discourse and behavior, so for kicks, I conducted a survey last year to get a feel for how students related to tech developmentally. One overwhelming result was that sometime during...
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- Mickey Schafer
I don't agree. Technology IS COMMUNICATION. Please consider W.J. Ong's Orality & Literacy or Pierre Levy's essays. Our literacy is still evolving and that's possible just because we can write (and communicate) with different technologies. So... Nice quote indeed, but wrong.
- Matteo Balocco
Bruce: language, art, and gestures are all forms of communication technology, each of which can be used to greater or lesser effect
- Mike Chelen
Internet is technology, great and simple technologies which work well and so you can focus on communications stuff
- Luca Zappa
Mickey: internet access may not yet be a universal commodity like paper, yet this property can shift rapidly in degree, redefining its qualities. regarding user expectations, to some extent this may be addressed through improved software design, for example google docs automatically save every few seconds
- Mike Chelen
Matteo: is that different from saying that all communication is a form of technology?
- Mike Chelen
Mike, I'm afraid it is different. While communication is a natural competence shared by all the living beings, technology is just an optional layer for just a niche of them. So we may say that all the technologies carry some informations (and we must consider them communication) but certainly not all communication is a form of technology.
- Matteo Balocco
However we agree that this is nothing more than an academic discussion. The quote by Taylor is still really good for some slideshows. :)
- Matteo Balocco
Mickey, thanks for your feedback. I don't disagree with any of your latest observations regarding the importance of keeping machine (medium) and internet (content) separate and the dangers of not doing so...My point was simply directed at the idea that in the context of pure content utilization, the hardware such as the cables (or airwaves) as transport media and content presentation...
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- Ciro
Anthony is honored to have just met - and exchanged courtesies with - the President of the United States. And that was, as the kids say, pretty effin’ cool.
you promised us you'd say some dramatic line to him, did ya panic and go with "wussup?"
- Steve C
@Steve: actually no, I cried like a little girl and peed myself, as is my longstanding personal tradition whenever meeting current or former Heads of State. It's simply good protocol; they seem to love it...
- Anthony Citrano
from BuddyFeed
Somehow I believe you, Anthony but still - pics or it didn't happen!
- WorldofHiglet
@WoH: "somehow?" ha, gee thanks! There are no pics of this one, I'm afraid (although there are almost surely pool pics of me at the ropeline early in the night) and believe me it bugs me more than the rest o' yaz. Hopefully @ the next one I get a proper photo op.
- Anthony Citrano
from BuddyFeed
@ahsan: dinner at the Beverly Hilton last night. (sorry, overlooked your q.)
- Anthony Citrano
:) You LA folk have personal photographers documenting your every move don't you?!? Don't tell me that not true because I saw it on the tv....Anyway, it must have been a very special moment. I hope you didn't cry and pee too much o_O
- WorldofHiglet
Cooler than that Best of Day thread about jock itch?
- Matthew DeVries
@charlie: about my personal moment (A: right here), or about the President coming to LA? (A: just about anywhere; pick your media poison.)
- Anthony Citrano
SO, can you tell us a little more about other than the wetting/crying?
- WorldofHiglet
Even though I can't stand Obama, I have to admit, your getting to meet the president is pretty cool.
- Joey Gibson
@WoH - I don't think I'll get into the blow-by-blow here (there's absolutely nothing of substance anyway.) However, I will almost surely draw on the experience for a future article.
- Anthony Citrano
Well I hope you do deign to share some little details with us sometime. When you can be bothered. In other news, did you see the new YouTube video from the WhiteHouseTV entitled "OMG!!!!! I met Anthony Citrano!!!!! For REALS!!!!!! SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!" I hear it's going viral....
- WorldofHiglet
WoH: don't make fun o' me! we've already determined I cry easily. ;)
- Anthony Citrano
Ooopsie - my bad. I forgot you were such a delicate little flower :)
- WorldofHiglet
If you shook his hand, you have been changed. : )
- Phil Boiarski
@Phil - I did twice. Should I not have showered? ;)
- Anthony Citrano
"It's typical for an athletes' appearance to change after they retire from professional sports -- they pack on a few pounds and age like normal people. But there's something stunningly different about Sammy Sosa's post-baseball look. Recent photos snapped of the former Chicago Cubs slugger show a shocking transformation: his skin is turning white -- stark white."
- Brad Williamson
from Bookmarklet
Yeah, that's a head scratcher, all right. Far be it for us to delve into the whys and wherefores of why servicemen snap. Nope, just eat your service revolver so we can get back to keeping the war machine rolling right along.
- Steven Perez
It's all about irrational fear with this bunch. They're like small children who can't be convinced that the shadow of the spooky monster in their bedroom window at night is really the shadow of a tree lit up by a streetlight. Oh, you're too damaged? Well, no sense in trying to help your busted ass out. Just eat your damned gun. Just make sure that we're safe from you; you don't matter, as long as you're not a threat to us.
- Steven Perez
There was something missing before that. I don't watch Fox, but I've heard the "suggestion" before - and I would have to have seen the entire conversation in context to be able to separate it. Most of what I have heard in the past is that "if you don't want to be deployed, have someone shoot out your kneecap" or something along those lines to "avoid deployment". In this instance, it...
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- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
why would anyone reasonably consider suicide, when even arrest for awol is far less harmful to oneself and others? it takes a deranged mental state to be unable to consider the alternatives
- Mike Chelen
Who accounts for the mentality beneath someone bent on suicide, though? The applicable word is "reasonable" -- and that says a lot. Regardless of whom.
- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
This is fucking sick. Why does Fox still have viewers?
- Christopher Granade
Its a pretty common remark, especially in the age of the sound bite
- J. Abdul-Qahhar
(Seriously. I am now so full of anger, rage, and impotent frustration that there are tears running down my cheeks.)
- Ladybug Heather
You put the ass on the head, and we get to call you asshat. Morons
- Eric @ CS Techcast
I'm right there with you, Ladybug. From the girl who came home one day and found that her mother had "taken herself out", I'd like to tell this guy exactly how many ways he can go fuck himself.
- vicster
As long as it is not them or their family members they don't want to deal or even be associated in paying for your help in any way so you should just go away however it needs to be done. Once it hits their families then they want the world to fix them then so cause its a tragedy only then.
- CW™
FOX should be taken out. Before they were an annoying pseudo-news network. Now, they're taking most issues way too far, and the sad fact is that most of their shallow listeners believe in them.
- jcunwired
Ya know the more you watch and complain about them, the more they are going to do this. Its a ratings thing. Same reason why Glen Beck is watched, same reason why Howard Stern was listened to. TO see what crazy thing they will say next. Stupid comments and wild accusations regardless if true or not is what they see creating ratings. Its a reality news show. Except very very light on the news portions.
- CW™
Want them to stop, then don't watch and get others to do the same.
- CW™
If someone serves me a bad cheeseburger, I don't push it away and walk away, telling no one. I let everyone I know how bad the food is at that eatery. The only reason anyone is aware of the chicanery that is Fox News is because enough people complain about their tactics and methods. So I say, complain loudly and often. Maybe one day, that eatery will be shuttered.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Because I guarantee you thing: the other news outfits didn't look at Fox and say, "My God, we need to denounce that crap." They looked and said, "Wow! A successful formula!" Which is why I have such a hard time even watching American news networks anymore - because they all thought that Fox had found the best way to get ratings, not because they found an effective way of delivering the news.
- Steven Perez
from IM
It's MSM tactics...reality drama. Yes, denouncement in a public way (like this) is awesome. I continue to denounce them -- and couple that with refusal to turn them on on my tv. I don't want to be even obliquely included in their Nielsen ratings.
- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
Here's a fun question. My 14yo daughter and 15yo son both know and understand the "cunning linguist" pun. Should I be disturbed by this, or just assume it's part of being intellectually precocious in the internet age?
0.75 (926/1226) - still relatively new here
- mikepk
I only see my stats for the last week (17/14 = 1.21) Please tell me your 670 number is for more than just a week!
- Brian Johns
1.44 (566/391) for brianjohns (after week tally you should see a comma then 'all time' count - I can see it on your page)
- Micah Wittman
OK, sorry. I'm a total dumbass. I stopped reading after the weekly totals...
- Brian Johns
3.74, which seems way off of everybody else's. I wonder what that says. I comment a lot more than I like.
- Cyrus Lendvay
FFers use FF with their own strategy or simply default tendencies. The ratio is an interesting snapshot of behaviour. Thanks for joining in everyone, hope more keep flowing in.
- Micah Wittman
from twhirl
0.66 - I tend to 'like' things without needing to comment further, I guess, and I notice I usually like the things upon which I comment. Well, frequently.
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
.39 (2457/6242) I guess I don't comment much. I do 'like' a lot of things, it would seem.
- Bren, Photophobe
0.62 then again i have over 11,000 comments
- Cee Bee
1.23 (5287/4229) - I am put to shame by Cee Bee's participation, good grief!
- Her Lindsay-ness
So far: Average: 1.27 | Median: 0.81 ... (if you average 1 comment per like, you'd be 1.0 ... if you're 0.xx you might herd content more than discuss ... if you're whole numbers above 1 you may not 'like' much or discuss plenty or both)
- Micah Wittman
InPerpetualMotion(Gina k), I really liked this 'Like' of yours (in a series of pics, so I flickr fav'd it): http://friendfeed.com/e... and commented. Thanks!
- Micah Wittman
.68 6986/10194 Someone wrote a great article on the comment-like ratio a few months ago. Search on FriendFeed is crashing on me... I'll try to get the link.
- Mitchell Tsai
Thanks Mitchell (btw, search crashing on me too - lots)
- Micah Wittman
1316 comments/20221 likes (0.06), according to Windows Calculator, although I probably screwed up.
- Tyson Key
A recent change in FF: now the comment count shows total number of comments (previously multiple comments in one thread only counted as one) http://friendfeed.com/e... so all the numbers above are from the old methodology....
- David HC Soul
My new ratio: 0.76 all time (old methodology .52).... this week 1.39
- David HC Soul
Looks like my ratio as flipped again (comments back to dominating again). Seems to match my own awareness I've lately been commenting without Liking (commenting is my inherent recognition of value to me and the additional Like is when it merits an extra bump to help discovery by others).
- Micah Wittman
Darn - 0.52. I guess I need to say why I like something a little more often :-) Liking this thread because I was wondering the same thing recently. Has anybody worked out the average from the numbers here? </islazy>
- Andy Bold
Andy, scroll upward and you'll see a couple calculations from before (January: Average: 1.27 | Median: 0.81)
- Micah Wittman
Rick, you mean that face with glasses I photoshopped tint into with an apparently disembodied arm which is actually very much attached to my eldest son? It's mostly just me :)
- Micah Wittman
Thanks, Michael. Yes, you have a rising tide of comment percentage (oh, wow, you were one of the originals from January - cool!)
- Micah Wittman
Yeah, that's a decent upward rise in comments, Nicholas.
- Micah Wittman
.6 (6,000/10,000) 3rd update - Now it's time to flip this on its head. My goal is to have (16,000/16,000) next time I post here. Regardless of what happens, I'm just looking forward to the next 10,000 comments, likes, posts, and new relationships I make here. It's all good!
- Michael Fidler
1.76 (7539/4290) My commenting habits haven't chanced much, but it felt like I clicked Like a lot less, and this ratio confirms that for me.
- Micah Wittman
.82 as of right now. edit: on January 8th it was 0.39 -- when I saw that, I decided to make more of an effort to comment. When I hit 10k "likes" I decided I wouldn't "like" anything else until I also had 10k comments.
- Bren, Photophobe
Jimminy, I'm copyrighting every single number. It's kind of a honeypot ;) Actually, it was curiosity mostly, but I also hope to build a sampling (small and self-selecting as it may be) for anyone who might want to analyze it.
- Micah Wittman
Wow I didn't realize I was so out of whack!! 12.23 that's got to be a record (and I don't even import my feeds with the summary as a comment)!!
- Chris Myles
Thanks JA, Chris (wow, 12+ is unusual :), Serkan and Nine!
- Micah Wittman
0.89 (17818/19913) (Somebody better make a cool ass graph of all this data!)
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
Micah.. I told you I take my likes seriously; ). You *might* want to ask (in a separate post) what percentage of likes were used to "bookmark" a post or save it for later VS actually "liking it". I NEVER used like for that.. but I did use a private group that if filled with my own topics (and comments)..
- Chris Myles
OK, so statistically, what ratio results in better interaction on FF?
- Hip-Hop in da House
I don't think I could argue that any particular kind of ratio is "best", because if Lurkers like to Lurk and cultivate (via Likes) and the Chatty-ites love to chat, to pump out much many more comments than Likes, each can be happy and make for a great social experience.
- Micah Wittman
So I'm fairly balanced, it appears. I would imagine it's because I try to comment on every post I like. That's not always true, obviously. But mostly it is.
- Hip-Hop in da House
Just clicking "Like" seems too easy. I feel like I should say something, too.
- Hip-Hop in da House
wow, what a difference time makes, when i 1st posted on this thread, 6.43%, now = 1.25%, for a 5.18% difference, :o (and this is the earliest post to date i've recovered of my activity on ff)
- chaz2b
chaz, I think there's been a big fluctuation for most people (maybe not that much). This is the oldest post on which you commented that you've recovered?
- Micah Wittman
that was my third post... It's interesting to see how the number has changed. of course, I manipulated the number to a degree, because I stopped "liking" things for a while...
- Bren, Photophobe
Bren, the other thing that can seriously throw off someone's stats is a feed that upon each item it imports adds a comment automatically.
- Micah Wittman
true. that can seriously inflate comment stats, of course. Then you have someone like RAPatton, who posts a gazillion comments, in part because of his playlist posts where he will list each song in a separate comment. I found, after this post in fact, that I tended to "like" things much more frequently than comment on them, that I was lurking instead of participating. I have changed the way I use ff rather considerably, and I think for the better.
- Bren, Photophobe
Weight: solidly built, but dense. Smaller than it looks in pictures
- LANjackal
from IM
Physical Keyboard: I don't know what reviewers were complaining about, this is actually pretty damn good. The only part that's not so great is the optional protective hard shell makes the top row of keys a bit hard to press because it consumes the "overflow" space that your fingers would normally have
- LANjackal
from IM
On screen keyboard: OK, but there's not much reason to use it
- LANjackal
from IM
The only major niggle I have with the Droid is that so far I can't figure out how to make it vibrate to notify me of incoming SMS when the handset is locked and the ring volume is silenced. If I don't figure that out I'm gonna miss a LOT of text messages at work, which is not good :/
- LANjackal
from IM
All charged up! Despair's (my Droid's Bluetooth name) first night on the town. He's already texted one girl and called another from his Contacts, which is fully integrated with my Facebook account (profile, pics, email addresses, phone numbers). This last part is absolutely amazing. Wish us well, I'll tell you more tomorrow when we embark on a 16h bar crawl (no joke)
- LANjackal
WOW. I have never set a custom ringtone this easily in my life. 1)Drag and drop song into phone from Windows Explorer (where it shows up as removable disk). 2)Go to Music App, which automagically finds ALL songs on the phone, regardless of location 3)Select track 4)Select "Set as ringtone". DONE. A-mazing, especially for a Verizon device (walled garden anyone?)
- LANjackal
"...especially for a Verizon device (walled garden anyone?)" They would had to have fucked with normal Android functionality. Have you tried, "Ringdroid," I think it's called? -- for editing audio on the handset. Perhaps there's something better now.
- Christopher A Carr
Idk about that, don't need audio editing capability
- LANjackal
from Android
Google Navigation: perfection. Period. Integrates with browser which integrates with calendar so I can nav my way directly to GCal event locations
- LANjackal
from Android
My buddy BR just picked one up himself. Verdict: fucking awesome
- LANjackal
from Android
Wi-Fi: works awesome. Using it @ a pool hall now
- LANjackal
from Android
Good hardware, presently. I would flash a fancier ROM.
- Christopher A Carr
I'm not going to throw down money until there is a 1 GhZ device. Soon. In 1/2 years, people who have this phone are going to feel silly.
- Christopher A Carr
... or we'll just get a new one? Handsets are salable dude.
- LANjackal
Speed: (because Chris Carr brought it up). The Droid is plenty fast. Speed is not an issue.
- LANjackal
Battery Life: Very good, but I'd bring my charger if I were going out of town for a weekend (I always do that anyway, so I don't consider than an issue)
- LANjackal
Browser: Faaaast. I don't miss the pinch multitouch capability reviewers have been bemoaning the lack of, since the high resolution means that 95% of pages are readable as is in the first place, and there's a handy zoom-in/zoom-out icon that pops up at the lower right of the screen
- LANjackal
UNPLEASANT SURPRISE: That charging cable that you think is a mini-USB cable? It's NOT. I don't WTF the port on the side of the Droid is, but it won't accept any other cable than the one that shipped with the device. Disappointing, but not a dealbreaker IMO
- LANjackal
Fancier ROM idea: If you wanna go for it, sure. However, my phone is one of those device (like my car) that I expect to just WORK, 100% of the time. Don't wanna risk bricking it, but if you wanna do that go right ahead.
- LANjackal
Contact management: This is simply the best implementation thereof you will ever come across, not only on phones but on ANY device. Full syncing of Google Contacts and your Facebook friends (all relevant fields, even job titles and pics from Facebook profiles), automatic duplicate entry handling, with search, email ... you name it. This is one thing the Droid beats everything else at. No competition.
- LANjackal
Camera: It's not the best, but it'll do. Besides, cameras like those are merciful to those who aren't naturally photogenic like me.
- LANjackal
Audio quality: Angelic. I know this sounds like an overstatement, but wait till you hear it. The audio on this device is just stunning. Everything else you've ever heard will sound like static afterwards in comparison
- LANjackal
Does it use a regular audio connector, or a custom one like the older Android phones?
- Glen Campbell
from iPod
Visual Voicemail is great, but if you have an active Wi-Fi connection it won't be able to sync. Which it tells you nicely. Perhaps Google Voice fixes that problem. Beginning to wish I had a GV account now. Oh well. Invite, anyone?
- LANjackal
I still can't get over the monthly fee for visual voicemail. Sigh.
- Glen Campbell
That's only if you have a 450min plan. The one I have has VVM rolled in... I think. Billing info isn't very clear on that, I'll see what my first new bill looks like when it comes
- LANjackal
from IM
VZW has the weird setup where feature prices vary BOTH by plan AND phone. For example, VZ Navigator is free on some phones but paid on others. I *think* Visual Voicemail's included with the data plan when you get a Droid
- LANjackal
More on battery life: Charging takes a while (1.5h from 50% to full). Definitely enough for overnight, but people who rely on fast charge times will be in for a surprise. I'm really anal about charging, so I don't find this an issue. Less "responsible" users (read: college girls) whose phones are permanently "about to die" will run into trouble :P
- LANjackal
Hmmm, not true mini-USB, slight disappointment. How loud are the ringtones and the call itself? Do you think the phone will feel weird with an extended battery? Do you experience any lag that has been reported in apps? Can't wait to have in hand next week!
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Lan: You want a GV invite? Think I still have one or tww. How do you like Stanford pounding the shit out of Oregon? Wow.
- Christopher A Carr
Why do you say it's not true mini-USB? That contradicts what I've been told by a Googler who's been using the phone since August.
- Glen Campbell
It may be a smaller USB connector than the "mini" one I'm used to. Phone ringtones are LOUD. So is the call volume. I don't know any phone that doesn't feel weird with an extended battery.
- LANjackal
from IM
Lag: bear in mind that you're dealing with a mini-computer that happens to be able to make calls, not a phone in the traditional sense. As with a PC, the more apps you run, the more lag you may notice (1 -2s sometimes, "missed" touches). In normal operation with mission critical apps though, there is no lag. I'd STRONGLY suggest Taskiller though, as the OS never seems to really kill...
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- LANjackal
from IM
Battery Life Report: During a drinking marathon today filled with heavy use of web browsing, FB app friend adding, taking (and uploading) pics, texting, email checking, calling, hopping on and off free Wi-Fi, etc. the Droid lasted *drumroooooooollllll* 11 HOURS. Terrible for a phone, but pretty good for what's essentially a pocket computer. Word to the wise: the car charging kit? Get it. An extra USB cable for charging at work is a pretty good call too
- LANjackal
Correction about the USB connector. It's a micro-B one, NOT a min-B one, which is why the other cable I had wasn't working. So yes, it IS a standard USB cable. Sorry to have mislead anyone
- LANjackal
Nice feature: automagical backlighting that turns on and off in response to ambient light (even when going through shadows)
- LANjackal
Camera: I take back what I said about it earlier. This is pretty much the BEST party camera ever. Reviewers who complained about the pic quality were simply taking the wrong pics. No one uses smartphones to take pics of flowers idiots. They use 'em to take pics at parties. The important thing is how skin tone and color come out WITHOUT being too revealing (trust me, no one wants to see...
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- LANjackal
Battery life: so my buddy BR who got one is complaining about the battery life also. And his phone was almost always dead BEFORE the Droid, so I can only imagine what the situation is like now
- LANjackal
Another niggle: No character count for text message composition
- LANjackal
UPDATE: OTA update will fix the SMS character count problem (exactly how that passed internal testing, I don't know)
- LANjackal
UPDATE on Visual Voicemail: I checked with VZW today and it really does cost $2.99 extra per month. Thanks to Chris' Carr, though, I installed Google Voice, so I chucked VVM.
- LANjackal
Bug: Google Navigation may forget to use the speakerphone at times. I think this happens if you attempt to navigate while the phone is in portrait orientation
- LANjackal
On the no character count for test messages --- doesn't it show you how many characters you have left when you get close to the 160 allowed?
- Kevin Mohr
I read that it does, but so far I haven't sent anything that long so I haven't seen for myself
- LANjackal
Worried about the Droid's 11h battery life? 1) Get the car charger 2) Head over to Monoprice.com and get a micro-B USB 2.0 cable for your office for all of *gasp* <$3, shipping included. Then you'll be able to charge at home, in the car, and in the office.
- LANjackal
Wait, an extra fee for VVM? That's just as lame as the extra fee for VZW Navigator.
- Wirehead
Not if you were on a Premium plan like I was. VZ Navigator's free then. Unfortunately, Premium plans are unavailable for the Droid, so you have to drop down to a Nationwide Select plan and then tack on a data package. This keeps the service affordable, but it means that VVM's not included. Don't really get VZ's thinking behind this one, although they probably reason that anyone who's savvy enough can get Google Voice anyway while the "average" users will lose $36/year to VVM.
- LANjackal
Droid lost 3G functionality this morning. How to restore: 1) With Droid still on, remove battery for 15 seconds 2) Replace battery 3) Turn Droid on. 3G should be restored
- LANjackal
from IM
"The data supports the notion that younger people are more supportive of gay marriage than older people. I also think it’s interesting that, even in states that we normally consider quite hostile to gay rights (the ones at the bottom of the table), there is still a significant age difference: 18-29 year-olds in Alabama, for example, are more supportive of gay marriage than people 65 and older in Massachusetts. So, while we like to think about states as “liberal” or “conservative,” spreading out the data by age tells a much more complicated story."
- Jim Norris
from Bookmarklet
It'd be interesting to find out if preferences for the *same set* of people change as they age. If no, then all we have to do to improve same-sex rights is wait for a generation or two to snuff it. If yes, then it's a little harder.
- Aaron D'Souza
Would like to see a graph with "has internet" (do younger people more frequently use/ more regularly access the internet?)
- Philipp Lenssen
Waiting a "generation or two" isn't going to do a whole lot for the gay community now. This is particularly true for elderly gay and lesbian individuals who are facing mortality and unable to secure inheritances etc for their partners.
- Soup
My guess is that open-mindedness comes with actually knowing people who are gay/lesbian/etc. and realizing that it's an inescapable part of who they are and just a different manifestation of the same powerful feelings of love and commitment that everyone feels. It also probably has to do with marriage being defined as a romantic notion these days rather than a more economic and social framework in the past. As evidence for this, I have nothing.
- Jim Norris
And I may not be the strongest gay-marriage supporter out there by any means... I mean, I'm ok with it and think it should be allowed, but only as long as I don't have to get gay married myself.
- Jim Norris
Ah, so Jim, you support "weak" gay marriage, not "strong" gay marriage.
- Stephen Mack
Interesting. So even if attitudes by age remain constant, in 20 years, the 18 states from Pennsylvania up will be strongly pro gay-marriage, but the 22 states from Wyoming on down will remain opposed, even 40 years hence.
- j1m
And of course, the prediction is that attitudes by age will be far from remaining constant. Indeed attitudes toward gays seem to have made almost all of their progress in the last 15 years, afaict.
- j1m
Do you realize that avatar is about 3 pixels too wide for that question mark? :P
- Lindsey is Fierce!
@Lindsey: Thomas Pynchon is an author of several works of fiction, including _The Crying of Lot 49_, _Gravity's Rainbow_, _Mason&Dixon_ and most recently, _Against the Day_. One of my favorite authors. He's also one of the most reclusive authors ever known.
- Bill Scherer
Ok peoples in relationships: How do you share? And by share, I mean share items like iPods and laptops without messing each others' playlists and files. I needs the help.
On shared computers, we have different logins. We don't share our mp3 players. Our only issue is things like Netflix, Xbox or Last.fm. He never signs out of my account, which means I have to delete a lot.
- Anika
Ok, I was worried I was being a bitch of a girlfriend. Went to gym today and was tired of hearing the same songs over and over. Turns out that hundreds of my songs were gone and only 27 left. But his stuff was on there. I was/am a bit pissed. But I wasn't sure if I need to learn to share or if we need separate things.
- Katie: Witch Of The West
Computers: private browsing in Firefox and GChrome. MP3 Player: Each one owns one.
- Miss Elle
I won't even let her touch me unless she fills out a 27B/6.
- Akiva Moskovitz
well back then we did not have such stuff.........
- VAL D.
It has to be included with the TPS reports.
- Rochelle
We have always had separate computers - been together a decade.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Sadly my SO is horrible at filling out and turning in the correct paperwork
- Katie: Witch Of The West
Oh, Katie...that would steam me up too. That's the #1 reason we don't share mp3 players, even though we have similar tastes in music.
- Anika
Whew! I was thinking I was overreacting. And all that was left was some British dude talking about technology and business ****yawn****
- Katie: Witch Of The West
you have lost me in your social life, lan. but good luck with whoever shes is. shes lucky to have someone to go to crying. =| crying alone is the worst
- Marissa
Nope. This is a friend friend. I only like her face, she's "magazine" hot but not my body type (waaay too thin)
- LANjackal
@marissa: Like I said, I'm really good at meeting people and I know a LOT of them, lol
- LANjackal
that is good, that you can meet people. if you were here, you would be the one i cried to too, from the sounds of it, you're a good friend =D
- Marissa
Y'all aren't gonna believe this shit. She got pulled over on her way here. She'd been drinking hard and hadn't told me. She just talked to me from the back of a cop car. What a fucking life.
- LANjackal
Well, I refuse to take responsibility for that one. I had no idea she was drinking, she didn't sound drunk when she said she was coming over. If I suggest we go swimming and you can't swim but don't tell me, I can't be held responsible if you drown. Good night.
- LANjackal
So one of her friends, CB, who happens to be one of the "let's just be friends" girls just called me and basically told me that AJ tends to make up stories (WTF) when she's upset. Ummm ... that sounds pathological IMO. I was never really interested in her, but I'm beginning to wonder if my chronic singlehood is the universe's way of protecting me and my stable life from psychos :S
- LANjackal
There are so many types of middle-men in this world... real estate agents, agents in the entertainment industry, independent recruiters etc.. In ten years from know is it imaginable that we would have exchanges on the internet that would eliminate the need for them or do middle men add inherent value to the transaction that machines cannot.
We have exchanges on the internet now that reduce or eliminate the need for a lot of the layers, but as long as people value human interaction and sales people are better at selling than a computer can be, then we will need human layers.
- Alex Scoble
Sadly, a lot of people were saying the same thing 10 years ago...
- Tudor Bosman
from Android
Alex, yes human interaction is valuable but the machine has other advantages - scale, distribution and objectivity. Tudor, agree we were saying that 10 years ago but I think the world moves more slowly than most geeks assume it will.. After all recently have everyday people adopted the internet in a big way to publish etc
- Bindu Reddy
A machine is only as objective as those who control it.
- Alex Scoble
I think the recent bubble bursting will accelerate the downsizing in the name of efficiency and productivity plus phone mail hell has trained consumers that human interaction is not necessary...
- WarLord
Phone system hell has trained consumers that poor human interaction isn't necessary. Companies that serve their customers well will continue to be rewarded.
- Alex Scoble
the most successful people don't try and do everything themselves they find others who are successful and work with them, like a celebrity who has their own nutritionist, personal trainer, pr person, etc if you try to do everything yourself you won't get as far, it's better to focus on what you are good at, i mean, if you were hungry would you make your own bread or would you buy it from the store, middle men exist for that reason they save us time and money, outsourcing is a booming industry
- Loc
The web has eliminated some, but created others.
- LogEx
The two most constant trends in the history of business are disintermediation and reintermediation. As soon as we replace travel agents with sites like Travelocity and Expedia, up pop paid services where experienced users get paid to help you find the bargains.
- Stephen Mack
@Loc I don't mean to suggest you should do everything yourself...All I am saying would the world be better if consumers dealt with producers directly. I am suggesting that there would be exchanges which would eliminate middle-men. Expedia is a great example of such a thing. Today you ideally don't call a travel agent to book tickets to NYC. You or your personal assistant would use Expedia.
- Bindu Reddy
@Stephen yes but the # of middle men did go down right? There were a lot more travel agents before compared to the experienced ppl who found tickets?
- Bindu Reddy
Yes but it is one exchange that eliminates the need for 100s of small "exchanges" primarily because it mostly uses machines to connect travellers to airlines. I am not so sure we can eliminate exchanges...
- Bindu Reddy
Bindu, yes, but your original post said "eliminate." :)
- Stephen Mack
from iPhone
So it it just a more efficient centralized middle man? There will always be a need to aggregate information, services and products. The web makes it more efficient in some ways but not fundamentally different.
- Brian Sullivan
We'll always have middlemen. What they look like might change, but we'll always have them. And some of them will -always- be lawyers and agents. They represent a class of middlemen that is necessary due to expertise.
- Soup
If everyone is somewhere on the circumference of the circle, and none are at the center, then in effect there are no middlemen (or to look at it another way: everyone is a middleman to a degree). Will the network ever decentralize that completely? Don't know.
- Micah Wittman
Also, exchanges are not necessarily preferred even if they are more efficient, particularly from the consumer point of view. Exchanges may excel at anti-consumer behaviors such as filtering results to benefit certain organizations, or maximizing pricing (e.g., airlines).
- LogEx
When consumers talk to producers (or those paid on commission) the consumer needs to know as much as they can about the product or risk being grossly oversold. In the case of things like houses, it is almost never a good idea to only look into it yourself. Hell, most people don't even know why granite is the "in" thing. Going to a middle-man gets you years of experience and knowledge on your side.
- Heather
Stephen Mack - sure...I guess I ought to append that :)
- Bindu Reddy
Heather, I agree that the consumer needs to know a lot of things before making a decision. The exchange technically is supposed to give that kind of information. take real estate for example - Red Fin gives you data like - how many days in the market, average cost of price sold in your area etc. In many cases the "experienced agents' are looking up the same kind of information from similar sources. That said I am not discounting all experience in every industry.
- Bindu Reddy
if you are subject matter expert why have a middle man. if you only know enough to get your self in trouble a middle man will save you from some unknown *risks*. The worst things is when I educate someone *Middle man*, and than they decide they don`t need me because know they Know.
- Robert Higgins
Some middle men are there for efficiency, such as your local grocery store. It's better and cheaper for us all for them to bring all the different items we need in one spot until we need them. As oppose to us needing to go out to the country to pick up milk, fresh produce etc.
- Dario Gomez
Love that pic. What season is my favorite depends on what area we're talking about. If it's LA, my favorite season is Fall. Fall blows all the smog out of LA, leaving the air clean and crisp and exposing the beautiful mountain views that were part of the reason people flocked to LA in the first place. If we're talking the Bay Area, spring is my favorite season because of the flowers and early fruit harvests.
- Spidra Webster
Summer - Autumn in New Brunswick comes in a very close second. (Autumn in Alberta, not so much)
- Nathalie, Dreamer of FF
I like summer because it simply makes me happy, but fall is the best! Nothing beats scarves, sweaters, and awesome warm hats!
- Anna Haro
Spring, then fall. Then summer. Winter sucks apart from being a little pretty sometimes. Spring is awesome because 1) it means winter is over, and 2) everything is coming back to life.
- Kamilah Gill
Absolutely the fall! Besides the fresh fallen leaves, which are "bee-you-tee-full" I might add, it's much more than that. It's almost as if the combination of loneliness, togetherness, sweetness, sorrow, happiness, tribulations and love was come together in one lump sum as if that same "sum" was something tangible that you could wrap your arms around it, embrace it and never let it go :+)
- Tim Tunnicliff
I love Fall (and winter). I have allergies, so dead plants are good plants. ;-)
- Hip-Hop in da House
Aaaaand we're back on 'Cops' =P I can't take this: FF is slow tonight and nothing but 'Cops' on TV? I think Ima go play some Boggle on Pogo...
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
There's like 50 eps of Dirty Jobs in a row. Use a naughty bits embargo to make it happen
- Matthew DeVries
Godfather was on earlier. I bet it's still on AMC.
- Trish R
He's flipping back and forth to a college football game (for a team he hates, no less). There may be some hope, though: he's now checking out movies on demand. FINGERS CROSSED PEOPLE!!
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
hard to type with my appendages crossed like this
- Matthew DeVries
My dad is like that. Drives me nuts how ADD he is with the TV changer.
- Spidra Webster
Wow, this collecting old beds ep of Dirty Jobs is by far the most gross ep ever.
- Matthew DeVries
Your husband is turning into my dad. btw, my dad's name is Dave.
- Katy S
Boggle's a nice game. Do you ever play Tangleword? I used to be a Tangleword-aholic back when it was run on playsite.com and I think even before then. The current version, if it's still there, at whirled.com, isn't quite the same but it's not bad.
- SuezanneC Baskerville
pretty soon it will be Wheel of Fortune + Jeopardy Back to Back!! ;)
- Billy Warhol
Also has anyone heard of wisdom teeth being used as "spare teeth" like if you still have your wisdom teeth and you lose a tooth, they implant a wisdom tooth to replace it? Like are wisdom teeth just in incubation?? Do you ever talk to people and just think they are lunatics?
Heh. That wouldn't work because once you pull a tooth and kill the blood supply, it's dead. You can't later implant it and expect it to live. THAT'S CRAZY TALK. Edit: Oh wait, by "still have your wisdom teeth", I thought you meant like, saved in the glovebox of your car or something after they were removed.
- Rochelle
Someone we know had 2 sets of wisdom teeth and he had to have them removed, but he was upset that he was losing his "spare set" of teeth.
- Dragon Goldmaplethorpe
Gross. Even if you did lose a regular tooth and wanted your wisdom tooth transplanted into the space, I don't think it would work because wisdom teeth are BIG and I doubt the hole left from the regular tooth would be big enough to accommodate a wisdom tooth. Also, I'm not sure if they can reconnect nerve/blood supply and veins from one site to another site like that.
- Rochelle
I know, right?? Like would you replace a front tooth with a wisdom tooth, how would that even work? Oh noes my extra set of teeth I miss them :( What an idiot.
- Dragon Goldmaplethorpe
I had mine pulled so the NSA can't track my movements. I would consider implanting them into someone else to further confuse the black helicopters.
- Steve is older than ever
You could *possibly*, through orthodontics, pull the tooth into the position of the 2nd molar, but I don't think there's much else you could do along the lines of using your wisdom teeth as "spare teeth". O.o
- The Bohemian Penguin
I know, like THAT IS NOT A THING. PEOPLE DO NOT KEEP THEIR WISDOM TEETH SO THAT THEY HAVE REPLACEMENTS. NO!
- Dragon Goldmaplethorpe
Maybe he is planning on going blind in 7 eyes.. I had not considered that either. :)
- Dragon Goldmaplethorpe
I kept mine for a while, in a box, because it felt really weird to throw away my own teeth. But then it started to feel weird to keep my own teeth in a box.
- Sarah is Novembery
Sarah, my mom has all of my baby teeth and I have all of my adult teeth. :)
- Rochelle
Now I'm imagining someone with wisdom teeth where their incisors should be.
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
I think my mom still has some of my baby teeth, too. They sell little kits now where you can display your kid's teeth as they lose them. I assisted on an extraction recently and the patient kept the tooth and joked about hanging it from a necklace.
- The Bohemian Penguin
Maybe she was a fan of Julie Doucet. Her comic features a necklace of teeth...
- Spidra Webster
i think they were our ancestors spare teeth. By the time your old molars were decayed and had fallen out your wisdom teeth came in (usually at 18+ years) to replace them.
- deliacious
Interestingly enough, there are people who don't develop all (or any) of their wisdom teeth. Yay, evolution!
- The Bohemian Penguin
Hm. I don't think lacking wisdom teeth would give a person a reproductive advantage.
- Steve is older than ever
Heh, fair enough. Yay, mutation, though!
- Victor Ganata
It might not give them a reproductive advantage, but it would give them a dental bill advantage.
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
Well they broke my wisdom teeth into tiny shards to extract them from my head, so that would TOTALLY not work.
- Sumotuwe
Wait, I just remembered super-glue. So ... maybe there is hope for me yet.
- Sumotuwe
I still have my wisdom teeth.... I should probably have them removed... but I am scared of the dentist/oral surgeon... I almost got it done once and they're all impacted... They told me there was a chance that if I have them removed they could sever the nerve that controls my jaw and then I would be slack-jawed. It was a possibility and that scares me.
- Her Lindsay-ness
After a blackout, woke up in a bathtub of ice one morning and all my wisdom teeth were gone. There was a note: "Yep, it's how we monetize. —Sn0pes.com"
- Micah Wittman
Lindsay needs a new dentist. Mine took mine out with a fucking hammer and a chisel (i woke up under anesthesia and saw him take the hammer/chisel out to give me more gas) and they were CRAZY impacted, and I can still work my jaw muscles. It wasn't that bad. Advil 800mg is your BFF.
- Sumotuwe
I had an employee who used to get quad shot venti mochas. I honestly thought he was going to burst into flames at some point during the day. On the up side, he was incredibly productive for a good four hours solid.
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
This is the first time I've had it happen, and it's hilarious actually. Hilarious yet mortifying. Because he's forwarded it to like five of our coworkers. o.O On the plus side, I sound pretty good...
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
Woah, doesn't that eat up your cell phone minutes? Or do you have unlimited? If you lost time I would make a complaint to your phone company.
- Ken
Like a young Susan Boyle: "Dream a dream..."
- sofarsoShawn
No, actually it was "Bittersweet" by Apocalyptica followed by "Cry Little Sister" by Aiden....*sigh*
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
AT&T sucks about a lot of things, but with rollover minutes, it's like having unlimited minutes. We have two teens and my father, who until a year ago was measuring kitchens at job sites all over the St. Louis area and as far into Illinois as Jerseyville - with occasional trips to Peoria and farther out in MO, and calls to my mother two and three times a DAY! We still have 4K rollover...
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- MaryB, BrandingBroadOfFF