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FFing Enigma
I didn't really make a resolution this year, but I realized I've had 3? 4? sodas so far this year and all of them have been real sugar.
FFing Enigma
*refresh* ... *refresh* ... *refresh* ... *refresh* ... *refresh* ... *refresh* ... *refresh* ... Looking for a job is strangely reminiscent of old school FriendFeed. *refresh* ... *refresh* ... *refresh* ...
Things have gotten pretty stagnant in my search. I still go through the motions of going to all the sites and sending stuff but just not every single day usually. I keep waiting to hear from one place I've been talking to off and on since right after I lost my job in July, but they are totally on their own unique hiring timetable since they opened a DC office from scratch about the time I started talking to them. - Jeff Quinton
Albeit with fewer pictures of man boobs. One hopes. - DGentry
Unfortunately, I'm not in a position to wait it out for a perfect-fit position: our emergency fund took a pounding this year so I'm lower on resources than I normally would be. I've still got a little wiggle room, but not for much longer... - FFing Enigma
If it weren't for unemployment and Google Adsense income (barely above the minimum monthly) on one of my sites I might be taking almost anything too - but I'm doing freelance consulting (starting that up has been slow) until I get something else (or possibly on the side afterward.) - Jeff Quinton
That's still how my FF works. :) - Rochelle
Unemployment is definitely helping, but it's not a permanent solution, nor is it enough to cover the roof leak we've just discovered (because when it rains it pours, literally and figuratively). - FFing Enigma
:( - Anne Bouey
I made a room with the feeds of half a dozen employment sites' RSS feeds (usually keyword searches around my zip and Craigslist) so I don't have to refresh :) - Jorge Escobar
Amy Wood
Good news: Heather Isbell, Missing Presbyterian College Student, Found Safe Wednesday http://bit.ly/11LO3F via @fredontv” (at Somewhere in the world)
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Dan Hamilton
@SouthwestAir please let the powers that be at Southwest know that the Upstate of South Carolina REALLY wants you at GSP.
(jeff)isageek
Atari: The Golden Years -- A History, 1978-1981 - http://www.gamasutra.com/view...
Atari: The Golden Years -- A History, 1978-1981
holy wow, jeff! LOVE - Mona Nomura
I loved mine. I miss it. Haunted House, Pac-Man, and Sea Quest were my favorites. - Yolanda
i just recently hooked mine up to my 42 inch plasma with surround sound. its a whole new world! :) http://www.jeffisageek.net/blog... - (jeff)isageek
Made a lot of money re-selling 'used' cartridges. Of course, I was just a kid .... - Charlie Anzman
Oh man! Pictures!! - Yolanda
Jeff, do you mess with any emulation, or are you strictly an old-school, real hardware kinda guy? :P - Tim Hoeck
Erotic. - Pete D
Tim yes im down with the emulation as well :) have an atari emulator on my pc and my cell phone. - (jeff)isageek
I still have mine and about 12 games, and play them every so often. qbert and the tank game are my favorites - clarke thomas
think i am gonna fire up galaga right now! - (jeff)isageek
I have one of those in my closet right now. In the original box. - Lindsay
You know the game I liked the most (but have lost :( ) - E.T. I loved the sound it made when he walked! - Lindsay
Actually blogged about my old Atari a while ago, A Moment of Silence for Atari http://bhc3.wordpress.com/2008... - Hutch Carpenter
I think we have one in my parent's basement... - Mitchell Tsai
Pitfall, bitches. - ::Kristen::
I want one. - mjc
یادش بخیر... چقدر دوستش داشتم - ‎‎Emad
My cousin had one. I remember some of the games, but I have no idea what they're called. Brings back a bunch of memories... - Vincent X
love this - Arjun from twhirl
I rolled over Missile Command - that's OLD OLD school. :) - Great Scott! Needs a Ham
Yars Revenge was my game of choice. I miss my old Atari. - John Ford
Loved playing Home Run. - Mike Reynolds
Will anybody admit to buying and playing the godawful E.T?! - TDavid
@Abby that was Adventure in all its blocky castle glory, yup. - TDavid
Used to love Adventure with the keys and dragons. I never had Asteroids but my friends did. Never quite got the hang of it. I would accelerate too much and end up zooming diagonally across the screen out of control. - Barak B
I loved Pitfall Harry. And even broke the score where you can send in a picture of the screen and they'll give you a patch. but dang my mom, she wouldn't take a pic of the screen so no patch for me. It was devestating! - Jason Shultz from twhirl
Remember "millions of E.T. Game cartridges to landfill" legend - SEE http://atari.digital-madman.com - Micah
Read this whole thing and quoted it in my tumblelog. Good stuff. - Phil Glockner
I was fearless in Air Sea Battle. Never understood why my Sears-oriented friend had weird names for his Atari games. - Mike Reynolds
It seemed at the time that Activision had the best graphics. - TDavid
ahh the atari 2600! - (jeff)isageek
what a beautiful sight - (jeff)isageek
wow, this popped back up from almost a year ago... dang! Do I have to start doing the E.T. noise again? - Lindsay
I love classic games. I still have an original Nintendo to play Mario:) - Rob Cairns
I still have an Atari but I haven't touched it in years. I'm not sure if it still works. Maybe one of these days I'll get around to hooking it up again. - jenali
Beth Baldauf
Beth is thankful that her gramma is MUCH better. (Thanks for all the well wishes and prayers, friends.)
FFing Enigma
My new red lips. Not too orange, not too blue. Just right! In case you're curious, I went shopping for warpaint last night (aka "stage makeup" aka "my derby face").
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hawt! - Terry O'Fee
I like you without the lipstick. But since you're going to war, I mean, the derby, this is perfect. - vijay
You look really, Cute Tina. They're no need for that straight face. Have a smile silly :) - Matt Ruiz
:O @ war paint - Tony C (Unrated) from fftogo
As it's been years since I've actually worn red lipstick, I've remembered that it's darn near impossible to put on properly straight from the tube (need a brush or start off with lip liner). That won't matter much for derby, though: one hit and it'll be smeared all over the place and I'll look like an escapee from the asylum =D - FFing Enigma
the serious face makes it look even better, IMO ;) - Terry O'Fee
What, you've never heard it called warpaint Earl? Maybe it's just me, but that's always how I've thought of makeup (especially when going on job interviews!). - FFing Enigma
looking good tina! - (jeff)isageek
love it, believe me I love it so buy it. - abdellah
nice either way, but this is also a good look. :) - Joe The Sausage
I think the Marines recently adopted that shade for the Afghanistan campaign. - SteVe C
Okay I am Navy and the comment about the marines wearing Tina's shade of red made me spit water on my monitor. THAT WAS FUNNY! - Tony C (Unrated) from fftogo
*sagenod* Warpaint is either camouflage or distraction: depending on the circumstances this color should serve either purpose well in battle. - FFing Enigma
War paint on the derby floor, you got to be tough! - orionstarr
You look great! Like you are on a special SWAT team - And I volunteer to be 'SWAT-ted' first! :-) - Morgan
Sorry Morgan, I'm pretty sure Dave gets first swatting privileges. - FFing Enigma
o_0 - MoTO Bott
Definitely Hawt - Rah-PM 2012
Brand and name of color? - Cheryl Jones
Wow. - Bren from iPhone
Cheryl, that's Revelon Matte "In The Red" (color 007, which makes me chuckle). If I put it on lightly it's a bit too pink, but another coat brings it back to brick red. Same thing when it starts to wear off... Feels great for a matte, and no sunscreen so I'm not allergic to it. - FFing Enigma
lovely - Mattb4rd
Nice color! - Richard Walker
Nice! :) - Cheryl Jones
Does anyone remember the Cathy comic when red lipstick was popular in the 90s? She felt like a giant pair of red lips walking around all day? That's how I feel when this floats back up my feed! - FFing Enigma
Ah, it's, er, getting hot in here... - Dave "Freedom 35"
AWEsome, Tina! :-D - Ladyepiphanybug
I like the serious look. Everybody always feels obliged to smile. - Kevin J Hatton
Always better without makeup, IMHO. - Jordi Soler
Sam Harrelson
Bomb Shelter in Our Dream House in Spartanburg - http://samharrelson.me/bomb-sh...
Bomb Shelter in Our Dream House in Spartanburg
Sent from my iPhone Permalink | Leave a comment  » - Sam Harrelson
Jason Trommetter
Ex-Contractor With Murtha Ties Pleads Guilty To Kickback Charges WJACTV.com has confirmed Richard Ianieri, a Pennsylvania military contractor with multiple connections to Johnstown Democratic Rep. John Murtha, will plead guilty to a federal corruption charge. So when does Murtha get charged? He belongs in jail! ... - Jason Trommetter
Amy Wood
Solicitor Trey Gowdy says he will go after the death penalty for the man accused of shooting an 8 year old girl in the head
Steve Rubel
Friendfeed needs to time-stamp the comments.
Yeah, that is something that I have been thinking about. - Kevin Bondelli
Less thinking more action ;) - Alberto Reyes
A tooltip maybe on hover over the quote graphic. Keep it clean - Andrew Smith
Optional feature - timestamp - not default. - Susan Beebe
great idea! - Sarah Perez
it must be part of the API, since fftogo seems to include a time stamp on the comments - Trent Olson
I'm sure they do store the timestamp, even if it isn't currently displayed. - Mack D. Male
Yeah, it's in the api, all comments & likes are timestamped - Glenn Slaven
I think this is a perfect plan. The only issue I might have is that the time information might take-over the conversations. It might just look more cluttered than FF already is. - Ryne Nelson
It would be useful sometimes. - Morton Fox
It is in the API (I use them in fftogo). I vote that the timestamp should appear as text when you hover over the "thought bubble" to the left. - Benjamin Golub
All comments are time-stamped in AlrertThingy and feedalizr - Stephen B from Alert Thingy
Comments are time stamped in bTT as well. - Francois Bochatay from bTT
and also in twhirl - Marco Kaiser from twhirl
agreed. Timestamps are important - Peter Dawson
What about a comment alert?! How do you follow conversations on ff!? - TommasoSorchiotti
Not sure if this will add to the functionality, but should be something they can try out... - Dennis Goedegebuure
Not sure a comment alert is necessary. Comments bring the post up to the top of the timeline, which makes it available for anyone who is currently paying attention to Friendfeed. (Not sure why anyone would want their attention brought to Friendfeed if it isn't already there, that would be a huge productivity drain). - Jason Wehmhoener
Please, please remember that the whole world doesn't run on PDT. I don't want to see timestamps in my FF in gReader and have to always try to guess whether the west coast is 17, 16, or 15 hours behind. If you must display timestamps, please put them in GMT. Setting the timestamps on my FF page/in my FF feed to be correct in my local timezone would be even nicer. - James Polley
we know which came first... but in n argument the comments can edit. that makes time stamping very important so we know when someone made a change - NoahDavidSimon
a timeline function in general would be nice, make everything more timeframe friendly - Ruben Llibre
Show times either in GMT or in my own timezone, and just make it a tooltip for the quote balloon or something. Don't want it to look cluttered. - Pat Hawks
just make the time relative from each comment, so I know who said what when in perspective. like 5 minutes later Noah David Simon said. <--this opens up - NoahDavidSimon
like i said earlier about plurk :) - kosmar
Is i really important to know when every single comment is made? Only the last one would really be useful, could have 'last comment on june 1 at..." right beside the date of the post. - John Duff
If the timestamp is a tooltip, then it isn't really "in the way." Maybe we can have all the timestamps as tooltips, except the most recent comment will have the timestamp printed out below it, like John said. - Rishabh Mishra (p248)
I am so tired of entering an empty room and talking to myself for twenty minutes. lol - Russellreno
A needed feature for sure I agree. I suggested this to the FF feedback room some weeks ago. - Mike Fruchter
Any news? - Amiroo ™
<--- try hover your mouse cursor on that little dialog icon - 我是真砂!
Sorry it's not more obvious, but if you hover your mouse over the comment icon you will see the time that the comment was made. Thanks for letting us know that it's hard to find! The feedback is much appreciated. - Ross Miller
I believe they are timestamped but this data is not yet displayed.... you're right ! - David Berrebi
other than timestamp I also want to be able to like the comments individually =] - Özgür D. Cyric
This thread shows what happens when nobody reads the comments before theirs - Rah-PM 2012
Agreed. The entire time... - Zachary Poley from twhirl
Rahsheen, your point is awesome right now :) - Zachary Poley from twhirl
this feed tells me that noone reads the comments before theirs =] =] j/k - Özgür D. Cyric
Yes,sure. The problems is how to realize it? - Motor Industry
Ross Miller:Thanks, my bad lots of greasemonkey junk keep me away to recognize that - Amiroo ™
Mitchell Tsai
Comet McNaught Between Fireworks and Lightning [Antti Kemppainen, NASA - 7/5/08] - http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod...
Comet McNaught Between Fireworks and Lightning [Antti Kemppainen, NASA - 7/5/08]
Mucho Gracias to Andrew Baron for the #1 most-liked post ever to hit FriendFeed (302 likes, 56 comments as of Thu 7/17/08 2:13 pm PDT) http://friendfeed.com/e.... If you're one of the few people who hasn't seen this yet, head over to Andrew's link & "give him some love". Way to go Andrew! Incredible find... :-) - Mitchell Tsai
NASA picture of Comet McNaught between Fireworks and Lightning - Antti Kemppainen. Large (1,744 x 600) http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod... Small (1,337 x 460) http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod... - Mitchell Tsai
Sometimes the sky itself is the best show in town. In January 2007, people from Perth, Australia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... gathered on a local beach to watch a sky (Quadruple sky over Great Salt Lake) http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod... light up with delights near and far. Nearby, fireworks exploded as part of Australia Day http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... celebrations. - Mitchell Tsai
On the far right, lightning from a thunderstorm flashed in the distance. Near the image center, though, seen through clouds, was the most unusual sight of all: Comet McNaught (Magnificent Tail of Comet McNaught) http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod.... The photogenic comet was so bright that it even remained visible though the din of Earthly flashes. - Mitchell Tsai
Comet McNaught has now returned to the outer Solar System and is now only visible with a large telescope. The above image is actually a three photograph panorama digitally processed to reduce red reflections from the exploding firework. - Mitchell Tsai
Antti Kemppainen Photography - Here's Antti's original picture http://jkemppainen.com/antti... Antti's e-mail is kemppaisantti@gmail.com, and you can scroll through Antti's other photos. - Mitchell Tsai
Andrew Baron's comet post has hit 300 likes! - Mitchell Tsai
301! - Shey
Jason Trommetter
Neal "thePuck" Jansons
While Iranians suffer systematic oppression, the internet becomes obsessed with the death of a pop icon. Talk about showing your true values
The news cycle is totally idiotic. There's absolutely no sense of any journalistic prioritization. But at least we can do our own informational reachouts. It takes effort, but I'd rather take the time than rely on the numb nuts who run media which are supposed to do that job but don't. - phil baumann
I don't mean just the mainstream media, I mean social and new media. We are like little kids...anything distracts us. Gay rights, the economy, torture, none of it matters because ooohhh shiny! /disgust - Neal "thePuck" Jansons from IM
Oh, I completely agree. But before teh internet, we didn't have much choice in where to reach out. We at least have that ability if we're proactive. But you're so right: the attention-span in social media is worse than a fly on crack. It's a very memetic environment, with very few investments made in wanting to plumb a topic as long as it takes to advance an intelligent convo. It's getting more & more frustrating. - phil baumann
It's things like this that belie the optimistic "social technologies and the internet will make everything better" rhetoric...no, they will just make a bigger venue for self-destructive indulgent stupidity if none of us take any responsibility for changing the way we act. - Neal "thePuck" Jansons from IM
Nailed. I guess we can think of technologies as Enablers. They can enable the good and the bad, the remarkable or the mediocre. A hammer is only as good as the carpenter or psycho using it. - phil baumann
Right...and so long as we could say "Oh, the people are wonderful, they just get manipulated and oppressed by screwed up immoral leaders" this happy-shiny, save the world rhetoric made sense, but now that we have a couple years of seeing humanity's face and voice when no one is making it be anything but itself, I think we need to start questioning the idea, no matter how much it might... more... - Neal "thePuck" Jansons from IM
There is a sense of journalistic prioritization. It's on what (the news companies think) people want to learn about. And I think they are pretty much right. People in America care a lot more about Michael Jackson's death - someone who has touched their lives and been a significant and formative part of their cultural consciousness for over 20 years. It doesn't bother me in the least... more... - Zach Landes
And that's my point...the human imperative doesn't seem very defendable once we see it in action; it seems credulous, easily led, shallow, and stupid. - Neal "thePuck" Jansons from IM
Zach - I have no problem with people paying attention to Michael Jackson (I grew up watching him when he was part of the Jackson 5, so there's some meaning for me too), but I think the concern here is that some channels should offer more consistent focus. Switching from something like Iran's troubles to Michael Jackson within 24 hours can't be a healthy way for our society to mature. It raises the question: how sincere or serious are people when the meme-du-jour is hotly debated for a day? - phil baumann
The only problem I have with that is that most of it is meaningless waffle to fill space and air time, tragic as it might be I'm not interested in what all other celebrities have to say about it or whatever. And I do despair, I don't know if I should despair more about the drivel people seem to be interested in or about what the media thinks we should be interested in. - M F
I accept human choices as human. I don't accept the concepts of good or evil. With such a view, there is not much I think that can be done, at least without major changes in human perception brought on by even bigger changes in society, in order to change the media. - Zach Landes
Seriously, before Iran and Twitter where did all of you people get your news? Biggie said it best: "Cuz this typea shit happens every day." ...all over the world. - Mona Nomura
@Chris mostly, yeah. And @Mona have my babies? - Zach Landes
This sounds good; but really lots of people are oppressed everyday and we don't talk about it. Part of the Iranian obsession was our own vanity that our favorite technologies were playing a part. - James Watters
Not sure what to feel about this post. Why even single out the Iranians. There is all kinda things going on all over the world some as bad Iran. What are you gonna do? The common person feels they have enough to deal with that they don't want to have to think about the plight of others half a world away. As for traditional news media well they cover what brings ratings. Its a business,... more... - nef 919 from twhirl
The internet is moreso "obsessed" with the flavor of the week/day and that will only continue. How are we measuring "stickiness" should take precedence. - dhamza
James has a great point, and so does Patricia. There is an emotional and narcissistic element to these things. And Mona is right...this typea shit does happen everyday, and I often have my boxers in a wad about it; I guess I am just an idiot...I keep expecting people to care and getting bitter when they don't or when they pretend to. - Neal "thePuck" Jansons
Neal - we cannot tell people how to think or feel, though their choices are telling of our failed educational system. - Mona Nomura
Thanks Neal. - James Watters
Mona - we can tell them, they just don't have to listen or obey. I am just saying that I have an ideal in my heart about humanity, and I am getting more and more disillusioned. - Neal "thePuck" Jansons from IM
That's a valid point, Patricia. People's basic need for validation is getting fulfilled en masse for the first time in recorded history, and that in itself can be considered a good. - Neal "thePuck" Jansons from IM
Just a sobering thought: Iran, too, is flavor of the week. We dont hear from Burma anymore, cause it's not "exciting" enough. Iran is exciting... But it's a lot of it is self centered hot air... James said it well "our own vanity that our favorite technologies were playing a part" Making your icon green or changing your location to "iran" does nothing for iranians - it just makes you... more... - Iphigenie
Sad but true, Joelle. - Neal "thePuck" Jansons
Machiavelli quote. "Hence it comes about that all armed Prophets have been victorious, and all unarmed Prophets have been destroyed." - James Watters
So much self-entitlement these days. Why should other news stories have to trend higher than others? - Brandon
the good thing though is that we are no longer dependent on a few editors in a few media outlets to decide what is flavour of the week, and what is news and what gets ignored. The less good news is, we are doing it ourselves. Of course we are human and get caught in vanity, but there's more variety of us, so there is a chance to revisit, push an ongoing story back in the (albeit very... more... - Iphigenie
Ya that's true! it's like Iran was trending on Twitter... Only because there was no other more "important" news to talk about. - Malcolm Bastien
Who said they "should" do anything? My claim is that our fickle, self-serving obsessions reveal something about moral character. - Neal "thePuck" Jansons
@Joelle, the media has rarely decided this themselves, only the public. they are a business driven by what eyeballs are drawn to them. We alone created the media by our appetites for it. if anything, the web has broken than, not media's tight grip on information alone. - Patricia
@Neal, agreed. When will we the people ostracize this type, then? Why do we let these people take the platform, then? - Patricia
We all have our own 'important' news issues, in the same way that we all have our own important issues in life. I guess if you've nothing to worry about in life, but the demise of a celebrity (and I'm not debasing that demise or the celebrity here), then I guess you're very fortunate, or of course shallow. - Ian May
who cares if one trend is higher than another, it's comparing apples and oranges! Of course more people are talking about someone familiar dying than unknown people far away (it's the same mechanism as the "200 dead, 5 americans" storyline) - that is the difference between gossip and news. If anything it just says something about us doing what is easy and talking about things that we... more... - Iphigenie
Patricia - I agree with your sentiment, but I hesitate to cut the world up into such a dichotomy. I think most people have both altruistic and selfish drives, but are generally discouraged from engaging in the examination and reasoning necessary to put them into their proper relations. - Neal "thePuck" Jansons from IM
I don't roll with any posse. I used to be involved in a lot of activism back in the late 90s in Santa Cruz, and saw that the activist community was mostly just young students and old hippies working out their authority issues. Maybe you found the mythical good guys to hang with, but I don't think there are such a thing. IMO, there are no "good guys", there are just "the other guys". - Neal "thePuck" Jansons from IM
Selective attention doesn't help when it is the masses and the leaders that actually make the world how it is. Besides, I don't really care about those people...they are not who my criticism is aimed at. My criticism is aimed at those who go from "OMG genocide!" to "OMG kittens!" with no sense of gravity or priority. Whoever isn't in that group may ignore my pissiness (actually, you are all free to ignore my pissiness anytime :p) - Neal "thePuck" Jansons from IM
Wow, Eric, nice response. It is a complex issue. My real complaint is the lack of priorities...Flying Spaghetti Monster forbid that a genocide or nuclear assault happens on the same day of an iPhone release. - Neal "thePuck" Jansons from IM
@Trish I almost agree with you - until you state that its about "narcissism and self-gratification as a society". Do you really mean as a society? Or do you think that it could be something that goes a little bit deeper. If anything, I would imagine that human society reduces narcissism as it requires humans to live in extremely large groups in which they have to make sacrifices for people they will never meet. - Zach Landes
I read a good article about slactivism and how if you actually have to DO something, or put in any effort, then you'd have fewer social media slactavists. I think it also speaks to the attention span of the slactavist, who isn't really invested in the cause so much as jumping on the bandwagon. - Miss Elle
I'm sympathetic to your POV on this, Neal but I'd argue that Iran's systematic oppression is not news—it is, in fact, old news to say the state of Iran mistreats its citizens. The protests against the election are the news. Michael Jackson was not much in the news before he died (I didn't even know he was planning a major tour in a month!) but his death is very big news considering his... more... - Lon Cohen
I get the sentiment, but I'd say the condemnation of priorities is too strong. Of course it's important to do what you can for the Iranians. But a lot of people have a personal memory of Michael Jackson. You've essentially dismissed that connection entirely. - Hutch Carpenter
And those are my priorities...human suffering, the fight against oppression, political freedom, etc are more important than people getting to have their nostalgia stroked. Emotions and memories are important, but there is a point where they become irrelevant. That point is where people die and suffer and that is ignored so people can get their serotonin on. IOW, anyone who would put the satisfaction of that emotional connection before the actual welfare of other human beings is a self-involved douche. - Neal "thePuck" Jansons from IM
Ouch Neal! First, the obsession with MJ - those are his rabid fans parked outside his house. I don't think of them as "self-involved douches". That characterization just doesn't seem to fit them. As for the ROW, there really isn't an obsession with MJ. Except to appreciate the artist. And that what he was, an artist. - Hutch Carpenter
I am not talking about the sheeple outside his house. I am talking about how the media, both new and traditional, went tits up about the umpteen billion important things...two wars, the energy bill, gay rights, Iran vote conflict, torture memos, hate crime bill, etc etc etc ad infinitum, ad nauseum and decided a washed-up, overrated, freak of the worst kind of corporate music was the... more... - Neal "thePuck" Jansons from IM
Well, look at it this way. If all the media ever did is cover the atrocities of the world, most people would tune it out. Think of your own days. Are you 24/7 with Iran on your mind? Of course not. Media are no different. They do mix it up. There has been plenty of Iran coverage, really there has been. So when a major cultural icon dies, one that millions, no billions, have some connection to passes away, they'll cover that too. - Hutch Carpenter
Neal: mainstream media owners promote whatever agenda best optimizes the acquisition of wealth and power for themselves and their social networks (including family, ethnic and religious networks). Much of that agenda consists of distractions (celebrity gossip, sex scandals, etc.) designed to divert public attention from the real machinery of power. The majority of people (including social media "thought leaders") are pushovers for this kind of manipulation. This is the way things really are. - Sean McBride
Also - I've never found it useful to castigate people for their natural interests. We're humans, too diverse and complex to force into a specific box of what "we should be focused on". - Hutch Carpenter
Uh-huh. I have an RSS reader and I can see the headlines since MJ's death same as anyone else. Iran stuff hasn't updated, energy bill barely mentioned, and the rest of it has been silenced. What about the "Holy Grail" torture memo being suppressed again? Obama using executive orders to detain Gitmo prisoners indefinitely without trial? It just goes on and on. - Neal "thePuck" Jansons from IM
Sean: I know. You know I know. The thing is that social media and new media don't have to follow suit. - Neal "thePuck" Jansons from IM
Looking at CNN.com right now. Lead is that the military arrests Honduras's president. There's a special section for Michael Jackson coverage. And a special section for Iranian coverage. - Hutch Carpenter
Well, then we disagree on the very notion of priority of attention. I am glad our ancestors and our genes don't agree with you, either, or we would either still be stuck in the caves (after all, who is to say early humans "should have" focussed on civilization) or we would be extinct (damn, I suppose that tiger might eat me but damn that sunset is pretty). - Neal "thePuck" Jansons from IM
A front page with sections is problematic for this discussion. I am talking about the volume of articles and coverage. A frontpage doesn't show that, an RSS reader does. - Neal "thePuck" Jansons from IM
Neal: I appreciate your passion, but not so much the conclusions to which it leads. I'm definitely more interested in Iran than MJ, but that doesn't make me less douchey than anyone else. I mean, let's face it... the only reason I care more about the plight of Iranians than the plight of millions of other suffering souls is that *my* people have a significant strategic interest in the... more... - Roger Benningfield
That's where we actually agree Neal. Natural human interests. Survival is one of those. Avoiding the tiger is a "gimme" in terms of attention. For the civilization argument, again, it's natural human interests. Those who insisted on "going it alone" were at a disadvantage. It was in your interest to participate in emerging civilization. - Hutch Carpenter
Neal, I appreciate your passion, buddy, but Roger just about sums up my take on it 100%. - Derrick
And as a side note, there seems to be an amazing amount of people on the internet who feel that they must automatically take the apologists position anytime anything is criticized. A solid position pro or con is not inherently a bad thing and strong opinions don't need this pacification. I don't care about 1) The human factor, 2) The feelings of the poor privileged people who want to... more... - Neal "thePuck" Jansons from IM
Neal: what percentage of the population anywhere in the world can think outside the box defined by mainstream media? 5%? 1%? Why would one expect to find much independent and original thinking going on in social media? Within social media, creative discussion is going on among only a few small networks and communities. Most of the discussion in social media as a whole is oriented around... more... - Sean McBride
Again, the apologist's position...people have it hard, so their amazing lack of priorities is "understandable". Well, people are also semi-evolved apes, driven by instincts more suited to the savanna than the streetcorner...so what? Shall we say it is "understandable" if they shit in their hand and throw it at people, or say that, even given our "understandable" position, we should strive for something better? - Neal "thePuck" Jansons from IM
Sean, I don't have the same poor estimate of people thinking "outside the box" as you do. For one, there are a lot of boxes, some of them mutually exclusive. People don't lie in one camp or another, either. Some people think "outside the box" about some things, some of the time. Again, this is just an excuse. So people are limited...can I not cry out for a higher ideal than catering to the lowest common denominator of those limits? - Neal "thePuck" Jansons from IM
Neal: I share your frustration -- cry away. :) But don't expect very much to change. - Sean McBride
Oh I never do. To paraphrase a bad fiction book, I am just a voice crying out in the wilderness. - Neal "thePuck" Jansons from IM
Quoting myself from last Friday: "John Ensign! Iranian unrest! Mark Sanford! Farrah Fawcett! Michael Jackson! A big exciting blur signifying nothing. Most consumers of mainstream media have the attention span of a guppy. Nothing connects. Nothing is sustained." - Sean McBride
Neal: What you're seeing as apologia seem to me to simply be attempts to convey to you, in the kindest way possible, that you're coming off at least as self-focused as those you decry. After all, you're the one claiming your ideals are "higher". If humans have no inherent value as you suggest, than neither does (in the general case) injustice or death or any of the other things you'd... more... - Roger Benningfield
I'm going to completely forget about Iran and focus entirely on Billy Mays. Because, you know, it's impossible to be concerned about more than one thing at a time. - Akiva
Neal and Sean - if you had the magic wand, what would media and human attention be focused on right now? What would it look like? - Hutch Carpenter
Roger, to claim to be evaluating things according to the correct standard and that another is mistaken is not self-elevation unless the claim is based on authority (it is better because I say so). I am saying the standard is clear and obvious: human suffering>entertainment (to humans), thus those who choose to elevate the latter over the former are incorrect. This is my claim. And... more... - Neal "thePuck" Jansons from IM
Interesting question, Hutch. I think I am probably going to come down with Singer on this one and make a utilitarian argument...wherever there is the most avoidable human suffering is where our attention should be focused first. When we run out of those, then social justice issues, then social progress issues (connected, but not the same thing, justice is about righting wrongs, progress... more... - Neal "thePuck" Jansons
Hutch: a very brief answer: Glenn Greenwald (Unclaimed Territory) usually keeps his eye on the ball: http://www.salon.com/opinion... He has been primarily focused on the widening and disturbing gap between Obama's campaign promises and his actual policies. There are a few dozen feeds out there which are relentlessly bearing down on substantive policy issues. Andrew Sullivan's... more... - Sean McBride
Greenwald and Sullivan have strongly challenged the mainstream media, especially The Washington Post in recent months. The MSM hate to be challenged. They would much prefer for Americans to be preoccupied with Mark Sanford's marital problems or the death of Michael Jackson than to be paying attention to and understanding the internal politics of the owners and controllers of the MSM. - Sean McBride
Sean has a great one there...the issue of Obama's rhetoric versus his actions since taking office is a big one that all the hero-worship people need to think about. I am personally afraid we have been bamboozled yet again and simply trade Beast Rabban for Feyd Rautha (Dune reference for the non-geeky). - Neal "thePuck" Jansons from IM
Thinking outside the MSM box: a few feeds: Alternet, Andrew Sullivan (Daily Dish), Antiwar.com, Common Dreams, Consortiumnews, Counterpunch, Democracy Now!, Dissident Voice, Glenn Greenwald (Unclaimed Territory), GlobalResearch, Haaretz, Information Clearing House, Jeremy Scahill (Rebel Reports), Jim Lobe (LobeLog), Juan Cole (Informed Comment), OpEdNews, Philip Weiss (Mondoweiss),... more... - Sean McBride
The social media thought leaders I respect have paid very little attention to either Mark Sanford or Michael Jackson. Among other things, they are still trying to understand the Iran situation by pulling together all the available data -- data which the MSM often don't attend to or even acknowledge. - Sean McBride
FFing Enigma
Henry's Original Smokehouse. Better a day late than never!
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My lunch was tasty, but now I'm so full I want a nap *snooze* - FFing Enigma
hmmmmmm, looks cute! - A. T.
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Here's everyone at Henry's Smokehouse. Yes, the food gets top billing... Now let's see if all 5 pics get uploaded properly.
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And yes they did! Woohoo! - FFing Enigma
<teleport> STEAL! </teleport> - Mo Kargas
ooh that food looks so good! - holly #ravingfangirl
the 'cue was very tasty indeed - Imabug
Henry's smokes some darn fine pig, without doubt. They do also offer beef and chicken for the non-pork eaters amongst us. - FFing Enigma
Looks like a fun time. - Ayşe E.
Yay! Hi, everyone! - LB so u no it's real
Laura, the BBQ was quite tasty. If you're in town again we'll make our way there! - FFing Enigma
I do like Henry's BBQ. Bucky's is also quite tasty. Sorry I missed it. Y'all weren't too far from my house, but I had promises to keep and miles to go, etc. - Steve Lowe
Is that pork with a vinegar based sauce? I see no red sauce. - Eric
pork with no sauce, but there were a couple of bottles with red and mustard sauces - Imabug
Henry's is tasty enough to eat without sauce if you prefer it that way: chock full of smokey porky goodness. I'm a sauce fan though, so I douse mine. - FFing Enigma
Food was excellent, company was even better. We MUST do this again. - G Dub of the Carolinas
WORD. Plus I have no choice: Annie's my new best friend ;-) - FFing Enigma
What is it with you and food? - Kevin J Hatton
I am a foodie, Kevin. I LOVE FOOD *nomnomnom* Plus I am lucky enough to live in a place that offers a pretty doggone huge variety to choose from. - FFing Enigma
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FML : my fiance's divorce was finalized. To celebrate, we went out to dinner at this expensive... - http://www.fmylife.com/love...
FML : my fiance's divorce was finalized. To celebrate, we went out to dinner at this expensive...
"Today, my fiance's divorce was finalized. To celebrate, we went out to dinner at this expensive restaurant. After dinner, he goes to the restroom. A couple minutes later, the check comes with a note saying: "Thanks! Gonna enjoy bachelor life. It's over." Left me with the $200 bill. He drove. FML" - FFing Enigma from Bookmarklet
Depending on the state, you might have to be legally separated for a year before you can be granted a divorce. That's the way it in here in SC (I met my husband Dave after his separation but before his divorce was final). My sister has been legally separated for over a year and still no divorce. - FFing Enigma
Personally, I didn't enter into a contract when I got 'engaged', nor did I receive a ring. He asked and I said yes, that was it. - FFing Enigma
Kay, why couldn't a married person give a ring to another person? Or co-own property with them? I co-owned property with my dad while married. I wasn't married to my dad. - Rochelle
I don't know what legalities I have entered into as an engaged person...the ring was certainly not the first gift I had received from him and we've co-owned things for many years prior to the engagement. The state has no knowledge that we have committed to each other that we will eventually be married. - joey
‌‌FML RUX - Amir
I thought a 'legal separation' was announced in the public newspaper to protect a party from any debts incurred from that point until legal divorce. I think if someone is 'legally separated' can be engaged to marry another person? I do believe the laws do vary from state to state. - Janet-The Bottley Crue
Rochelle you can. But those are contracts of a different nature. And I assume those were in writing. - Kay Designer
Hey, Kay? This post is from another site, this isn't my situation. I'm quite happily married (as evidenced by my referencing my husband Dave in the comment above). - FFing Enigma
Kay, the property ownership? Yes, it was in writing. It was the ownership of a condo. - Rochelle
I dunno. If a person is separated and plans to marry someone else and they call each other fiance/fiancee, who am I to stop them? If they want to give each other rings or spoons or dining room chairs, what should I care? Are you saying it's illegal for them to use the word "fiance" and exchange gifts with each other? - Rochelle
And for what it's worth, per the legal code in SC any items purchased after entering into a legal separation are not considered marital property, ergo any engagement ring or other property bought after a legal separation is not bound by marital property contract or law "SECTION 20-3-630. Marital property; nonmarital property. (A) The term "marital property" as used in this article means... more... - FFing Enigma
Looks like someone's been burrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrned. - Akiva
So if you get to call us "young women", does that mean we get to call you "old woman"? Ageism isn't cool. And I'm not sure why you're apologizing to us. AFAIK, all of the women commenting here are in long-term committed relationships. - Rochelle
Kay, I'll *reiterate*: THIS POST ISN'T ABOUT ME, I am already married. That is beside the point, though. I am MORE than familiar with "all this financial stuff" regarding marriage property and divorce; I have my state's legal code book marked and I use it as a resource like any well informed person should. - FFing Enigma
Kay, if you click the link (or look at the URL, at least), you'll see this is from a website. It's shared via Bookmarklet, which is shown next to the timestamp. It's not Tina writing it as a post on FriendFeed. The comment was also in quotation marks, which indicates it being a quote, not text from the person making the post. - Rochelle
Kay, I understand your position, but all I can say is that in my state there is no recognition of an engagement "contract". There is recognition of contract written or implied when it involves property or money. But simply asking someone to marry isn't codified as an oral contract: I could go ask everyone I meet to marry me with legal impunity (unless it keeps me away from my husband... more... - FFing Enigma
Kay, I'm sorry your marriage didn't work out, but clearly even a marriage contract didn't prevent the resulting difficult situation. It's not reasonable to say that all men conspire and plot how to screw women over, though. If that were the case, then none of us should be in any sort of relationship with them at all. Things can fall apart in nasty ways whether you're living with a... more... - joey
Kay, by my ageism comment, I meant that I felt as though we were being talked down to, i.e. "you young women don't know anything". I didn't appreciate that. - Rochelle
Kay, that's a very giving thing to do. She's lucky to have you in her life. - joey
Hello. I am an old man and I am here to ruin you. - Akiva
<beep beep beep> *gets popcorn out of microwave* Oh sorry...don't mind me. - caj needs a haircut
Christopher, that WAS me resisting. - Akiva
I ain't readin all this shit, but I never thought getting engaged was a contract. Also, Kay needs counseling....just saying. On a serious tip. At least someone to talk to. - Rah-PM 2012
Rah, she apparently has "alot of friends here" so hopefully one of them can step up and help her out. - Rochelle
WAIT!! what did I miss?? *sits down next to Alan Jackson hoping he'll share the popcorn*.... - Jannifer @wordsforliving
Can anyone verify that getting engaged has any bearing on whether you're married already or separated or whatever? I did scan the thread, but the game is on and.... - Rah-PM 2012
*passes popcorn* It's Extra Butter! - caj needs a haircut
Rah, it sounds like it's state-by-state, in terms of legal co-ownership of property should you later split up, but anyone can say they are engaged to anyone else. The word "engaged" isn't trademarked or anything. There's no permit or license required to call yourself "engaged". - Rochelle
Yeah, like a girl getting engaged to a married man is obviously of sterling character. - Akiva
Lindsey, and so we meet in the middle. Howyoudoin'. - Akiva
Thanks Alan! what's happening? I got here late - Jannifer @wordsforliving
I'm with Lindsey on the character tip off. And Akiva. - joey
Jannifer, I'm not sure how it got spun up like that but so it goes, I guess. - caj needs a haircut
Just to reiterate: depending on the state it's very easy to go a year or more legally separated but not yet divorced. My sister is going on month 15 of her current legal separation and still isn't actually divorced (they can't afford it yet). Heck, in SC you have to be legally separated (i.e. you've filed and you're living separately) for at least a year before a divorce is granted unless adultery, abuse, or drunkeness is involved - FFing Enigma
someone accidentally pushed a hot button I think... - Jannifer @wordsforliving
Most certainly agreed, Glen. - FFing Enigma
Looks like it, Monique. It wasn't me, and I can't tell whose are gone... - FFing Enigma
I don't think my hubby would like that Mathew. After a month here - Some people I met here are incredible, but others really... :-\ how do I say this? They are really mean. Its a weird culture here. I did remove a post that I felt was sort of private and decided it was something I didn't want to stay up here. Isn't that what the edit button is there for? So one can do that? If that is... more... - Kay Designer
pass me the *popcorn* - oh crap i'm too late. wholesale comment deletion gets a *facepalm* - Richard Walker
"Wow, Kay. I think anyone who looks as an engagement to be married as a legally binding contract probably should remain single. - Trish R" In other societies and cultures, an engagement is considered binding. And this is where our present society derives its understanding. Regarding Hebrew culture it was considered binding. A small ceremony marked the engagement and the couple was to... more... - Melanie Reed
And Lindsey, A big "bingo" to you for your observation. Any man or woman who approaches another while still married (and there is a higher court that we are all answerable to on that one since He gave marriage as a gift not a contract or an institution you should break or get out of) is asking for trouble on a number of levels. This scenario is just one of them. http://mereed.wordpress.com/2009... - Melanie Reed
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Video: Colbert 'training' at Fort Jackson, Part II - The Buzz - The State - http://www.thestate.com/thebuzz...
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Lots of octopi flying around on Iron Chef America tonight. Lots of used I've never thought of before.
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Guess where I am....
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On the verge of donuts? - Amy℠
Nom! I love Krispy Kreme. - Steve Lowe
We are now home and the dozen hot'n'now doughnuts is missing 4. And yes, that means I live dangerously close to Krispy Kreme. - FFing Enigma
yyyummayy - Anthony Citrano
Hey! Where are my hot Krispy Kremes?!?!?! :) - S of 2C
Um.... I ate them... =D - FFing Enigma
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Car inverter for your cup-holder — Boing Boing Gadgets - Boing Boing - http://orangejack.tumblr.com/post...
Car inverter for your cup-holder — Boing Boing Gadgets - Boing Boing
FFing Enigma
Me too, my friend. Me too....
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I'm horribly tempted to ask the guy if he's had any offers. The curiosity, it's killing me! - FFing Enigma
i'm gonna post something similar - Lokei Atikus™®
I'm certain that he hasn't had any legit offers. those that would give probably wouldn't be on craigslist... - Morgan
FFing Enigma
Guess what... I'm going to be in a parade tomorrow! Dave and I are riding in the Armed Forces parade downtown with a crapload of other motorcycles. It's hot, loud, and slow, but the kids on the sidelines love it. I'm hoping to get some cools pics to post =)
Don't forget to throw candy - RAPatton
Aden, I'll see what I can do. Dave's the rider, I'm just on the backseat. Even if I knew how to ride his 1300cc bike is way too big for me... - FFing Enigma
I'm going to see the 82nd Airborne jump, and the Golden Knights and the Thunderbirds... at Andrews AFB for the Joint Service Open House - Jeff Quinton
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Shrimp and Grits Flickr Search *drools* - http://www.flickr.com/search...
Shrimp and Grits Flickr Search *drools*
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Do want, right now! I think I'm going to have to stretch some room in the budget and make some shrimp'n'grits this weekend. - FFing Enigma from Bookmarklet
That looks really good! I might be able to pull that off... - Sue Radd
Looks delicious! - Myrna
I like grits and I love shrimp. Never imagined combining them into one dish. - Sharon McPherson
Sharon, it's exceptionally tasty and rather forgiving: you can make just about any variation and still call it "shrimp and grits". I've thrown a craving on myself for this now, and might have to make some for dinner tomorrow. If I do, there will be pics! - FFing Enigma
Shrimp and grits is heaven on a plate. I like mine with a bit of smoked sausage or peppered bacon. - G Dub of the Carolinas
Mark: Actually, in the south we combine gree + itz to pronounce it as "greeitz". lol - Sharon McPherson
Tina: I'm going to try it myself, and I'll be looking forward to your pics. - Sharon McPherson
Excited to hear how it turns out for you Sharon: post some pics if you can! - FFing Enigma
Hmm My wife's night to cook is tomorrow night I think I'll request she make her rendition. we can have a Fuck Yeah Shrimp and Grits fest! :D - G Dub of the Carolinas
OMG YES!!! Shrimp'n'Grits Friday! I like the way you think Gunny =D - FFing Enigma
I think I'll play along, too. My favorite version is Hominy Grill's http://www.hominygrill.com/recipes... - Heather Solos
That looks tasty, Heather. I'm going to have to keep the sauce separate from the rest since my sister might be over tomorrow and she's gluten intolerant. Or, I could try making the sauce with corn starch which should work ok... Either way, I want cheese sauce *drool* - FFing Enigma
had shrimp & sausage up here last week, started to tell them they need to rename it shrimp and grits since grits are involved as well - Jeff Quinton
Being one pretentious sonofabitch, I pronounce it it "Gamberetti con Polenta." - Mark Czerniec
FFing Enigma
Moonpie: Chattanooga Bakery Historical Advertisements - http://www.moonpie.com/hist_ad...
Moonpie: Chattanooga Bakery Historical Advertisements
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I'll give you a hint as to one of the things I'm including in the swap box... - FFing Enigma from Bookmarklet
Damn!!! I LOVE doubledecker moonpies. - Ken Kennedy
I'm going to loose some GRiTS cred here, but I don't actually like Moonpies *runs away* But they're about as southern as it gets, so I had to get some for the box. These are actually mini moons, which I hadn't seen before. - FFing Enigma
I prefer the vanilla ones over the chocolate ones - Tony C (Unrated) from email
Feel free to run away, Tina...more moonpies for me, then! - Ken Kennedy
My mum loooooves moonpies! We get friends who visit the states to bring some back for her, bazooka joes too, and crackerjack popcorn. All the things the UK wont sell! - Charley M
A RC Cola and a moonpie, The only thing more southern than that is somebody calling you a dumbass by saying Bless your heart. :D - Tony C (Unrated) from email
Closely followed by "Isn't that nice..." which is code for "f@#! you" - FFing Enigma
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Cool - and Billy is from Rincon GA! RT @MissSprintCup: http://twitpic.com/4vscv - I got a pic with country music star Billy Currington!
Cool - and Billy is from Rincon GA! RT @MissSprintCup: http://twitpic.com/4vscv - I got a pic with country music star Billy Currington!
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Jimmy Buffett -- A Pirate Looks at 40 - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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The Faithful Spy: Alex Berenson - http://www.amazon.com/Faithfu...
The Faithful Spy: Alex Berenson - http://www.amazon.com/Faithful-Spy-Novel-ebook/dp/B000GCFG74
Just finished this on my vacation in Canada. A bit cheesy, but a fun, fast read. Reminds me of Ludlum with fewer government conspiracies and slightly more realism. - Bret Taylor from Bookmarklet
Loved it - Roberto Bonini
Thanks for the tip. Just ordered it. - Sheila Taylor
A few notes on Alex Berenson: http://docs.google.com/Doc... - Sean McBride
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