The real-time component of Google is like introducing the Slashdot effect to the most popular site on the world. People better be prepared for it, infrastructure wise. Jes' sayin.
- Michelle
Michelle: That's what elastic hosting is for. Cue advert for Rackspace Cloud Sites!
- Jalada
A google fail whale would be sorta cool.
- Cliff Gerrish
@Cliff - it exists. It is called Wave.
- Rob La Gesse
getting them weekly for gmail, igoogle and so on - but they only last a couple of minutes mostly
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
They need one of those cute graphics to really annoy people.
- Cliff Gerrish
Google isn't scared of this stuff at all. Ask Matt Cutts. If it gets big, they'll just buy it.
- Michelle
It's not a threat. The Google ecosystem is much bigger than just search.
- Michelle
Results are changing from links to widgets.
- Cliff Gerrish
the biggest change for google search is that now its more dynamic, fade in's, drop downs and so on
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
scared is a loaded word... let's say concerned.
- Jason Calacanis
@cliff, totally agree with the links to widgets. We're moving back into compound document architectures backed by some fairly sophisticated intelligence.
- Jerry Schuman
Widgets can handle streams of data...
- Cliff Gerrish
Robert, not by name, but I'll bet a bunch of people do what I do...say , gee I sure wish I had that...
- Karoli
@cliff, yep that is absolutely what we've been focusing on here. Stream aggregation that can ID context and conversation are absolutely the next huge implementations.
- Jerry Schuman
read the quantum computing blog post from Google. They're working on this exact problem
- Jerry Schuman
Karoli--that's why they bought the engineering team for this social network!
- Michelle
Agree, Michelle. FF search is the finest I've used.
- Karoli
facebook as an identity platform will go the way of Microsoft Passport if it's 1) not open standards and 2) they don't use the private identity info for corporate gain
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
I won't use FB as an identity platform because they have exhibited anti-privacy behaviour
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
my issue with FB was the default to google indexing while giving users the impression they were protecting them.
- Karoli
i think they totally duped the development community beyond what they've done to the end users.
- Jerry Schuman
What was changed was the default for people who had not set them to public or open (i.e. using the FB default which was private)
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Congress may care about privacy on the internet, but they don't actually know what that means.
- Cliff Gerrish
Cliff I agree with that, but they can sure mess with us a lot.
- Robert Scoble
the difference is the data that people have invested into the Facebook data environment - it's a lot more personal than Twitter could ever collect
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
LOL...jason is a little bit sleep-deprived. he's babbling.
- Karoli
Actually, HTML5 is on 'last call' according to WHATWG, but not according to W3C. So, it's sorta close.
- Cliff Gerrish
the point is that there are implementations in the wild regarding HTML5 in anticipation of a ratified standard. Not much different then what happened to 802.11 N
- Jerry Schuman
ok.. quit stealing my damn thoughts before I can type them out
- Jerry Schuman
That's why you have a closed Chrome hardware play -- you can implement HTML5 in a closed system.
- Cliff Gerrish
I switched OurDoings to HTML5, but I'm only using the parts of it that older browsers can handle.
- Bruce Lewis
Well, since I was there when 802.11 was born, I had to bring up the example :)
- Rob La Gesse
Robert's point is very valid - the app devs will be able to get on board the HTML5 train and enjoy the benefits and hopefully the standards body will avoid tweaking it out of usability
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
I want to see a closer pic of Kevin's whiteboard over his shoulder ;-)
- Jerry Schuman
google must be *loving* html5 because they will get all of those apps to be immediatly usable on any new Chrome netbook and also all new Android devices
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
no.. they'll hack up their own solutions in the meantime. Hell Comet/Push was hacked together prior to the standardization of websockets
- Jerry Schuman
Android and iPhone implementations of webkit are different. So, there are different capabilities there...
- Cliff Gerrish
you also have to look at what Google is doing with GWT. It plays a big role on supplementing what they're doing in HTML5
- Jerry Schuman
Randall Stross wrote that for the Times, but it was largely debunked.
- Cliff Gerrish
Hey, Kevin, is there a 140 character comparison of Google Voice vs Ribbit Mobile?
- Ken Sheppardson
Then why does the iphone only have to seem to have the major issues in the US?
- gfurry
Chicago, New York, Dallas (HOME OF ATT!!!) all suck (as does SFO).
- Rob La Gesse
It's because AT&T is the only network with the iPhone. Check Mary Meeker's stats on iPhone use in her Morgan Stanley Mobile internet report.
- Cliff Gerrish
May I also introduce you to the substance my husband claims is the best part of being married to an art director: rubber-cement thinner. Does much the same thing with sticker residue (fun with two-year-olds?) and removes permanent marker from nonporous surfaces.
- Auntie Buttinsky Botts
from iPhone
Yep, and for those who have to stay clear of the petrochems, any natural orange-enzyme based degreaser will eat through most adhesive residues. Just spray on full strength and watch the fun begin. Just like a commercial, wipes away clean with a paper towel. Once removed large patches of duct tape residue off the floor from where it was being used for cheap cord management. lol
- Melanie Reed
Annother cool innovation at Gnomedex: everyone has a little card. You drop it on the Microsoft Surface table. Then you can drag your contact info to other people's cards. It is badge sex. A lot more fun than business cards.
- Robert Scoble
This is sorta amazing. Ruby code running in XHTML, XAML for graphics and animation running in XHTML.
- Cliff Gerrish
The Gestalt library provided in the adjoining gestalt.zip download consists of three main components as follows: 1. js/jquery.js Gestalt uses jQuery to reliably extract the XAML, Ruby and Python code blocks. 2. js/gestalt.js This script pulls all the code blocks, compiles them through the DLR, and injects the resultant object tag(s) back into the page. 3. gs/*.xap These are the precompiled Silverlight binaries that are utilized by gestalt.js to create the corresponding object tags.
- Cliff Gerrish
I like the town hall's that digg.com do. If thats the kind of thing you mean.
- Simon Wicks
I really like Stack Overflow, both its design and its community. I'm not really "digging" Vaynerchuk. Not my style.
- Meryn Stol
As a tech who enjoys teaching, stackoverflow.com satisfies a desire to provide expertise to people in need. Incorporating this into Building43 seems natural, needed.
- Robert J Taylor
Leo is a great model on this... good idea
- Susan Beebe
Simon makes a good point - I'm not a Kevin Rose fan, but the digg Town Hall's are a great idea.
- Jim Connolly
Maybe you could work on a kind of "bridge" between online (say FriendFeed) and "The Valley". Interactive. I think bridging the valley with the rest of the world will become ever more important because on the one hand, there are more and more startups outside the valley, but on the other hand, lots of expertise - and especially the "big names" are located there.
- Meryn Stol
I would like to see a "partner" community to match site owners with service vendors with a "social media" dynamic, feedback and recommendation systems. Many such exist, but incorporating this in Building43, where the thinking is happening seems natural, too.
- Robert J Taylor
where do you differentiate? What do you do better? Who do you want to be standing on your own. Copying is flattery, but what is your own identity? You have a unique opportunity here, whatever you create, you might be stuck with for a while. Find out what is lacking in everything you encounter then go build it. My 2Cents
- Dan owns Comicsforge.com
Some way of featuring unknowns and their creations instead of the few that cycle through different projects? The biggest hurdle I have encountered while trying to get Vertical Slice off the ground is getting people to watch them. Trying to get anything onto sites like digg, popurls etc is next to impossible unless you are already known or know someone that is known. It's certainly something that needs to be addressed for some cool stuff to bubble up.
- alphaxion
Stackoverflow. You can hear Jeff Atwood talk about influences in the video at http://videos.visitmix.com/MIX09... A couple of things that they thought of: 1) search is the primary discovery vehicle for the site not nav 2) they care about URLs first as they designed not nav 3) performance was a key design criteria Finally you can model it also after my teams next project. ;-)
- Jeff Sandquist
I think the next step would be to integrate different segments of the site with Friendfeed so conversations surrounding the topic can be localized. i.e. a site walk through with video such as the one you did at SmugMug and the parallel discussion taking place in adjacent space on the page.
- Rick Bucich
More on Gillmor Gang in at 3 p.m. Pacific Time http://live.twit.tv -- we did this experiment two years ago and it'll be interesting to see how the marketers pick up on this announcement this time.
- Robert Scoble
from Bookmarklet
Ahh, now we are in my *social media comfort zone* Posterior placenta, about 10-13 week gestational age by viewing. Nice extremities and profile with nasal bone visualized already (soft marker for Down's when absence of nasal bone). Nice job!
- Janet-The Bottley Crue
We did same here, maybe same day, but no photos...the little "bug" needed a macro lens & the sonogram operator couldn't find one. Not polite in public what she did use but it is an internal device, an alternative to the belly transponder, and said shape is usually known by another name. Rather surprising in the further context that the sono operator was a very cute, young blonde. Confusing day. Russians (wife) keep such announcements secret until the second trimester, so I'm not allowed to speak.
- Douglas Hopkins
Douglas: yeah, we kept ours quiet until week 12 and also Maryam had a test to make sure the baby doesn't have Downs.
- Robert Scoble
Regarding "marketing experiment" - I forget where I read it, but someone said that the most successful advertising is the stuff that doesn't look like advertising at all, because it does such an outstanding job of meeting your needs. Valid points in your post, and there's no reason why smaller services can't try to meet their users' needs also. For example, look at all of the fuss over how services suggest users. What if your personal suggested users on Twitter were to suddenly include pediatricians?
- John E. Bredehoft
Awesome! 3rd BABY Scoble on the way! Cheers to you and your family!! How blessed you must feel right now. You've been through quite a bit of positive change lately - impressive!! Can't wait to hear more :)
- Susan Beebe
Congratulations!!! Solo parent duty this weekend and missed the announcement. Of course tinyprints.com would like to step up to the plate when the time comes.
- Rick Bucich
kinda sick of hearing people talk about this. this discussion has definitely jumped the shark (also another term that has jumped the shark)
- andy brudtkuhl
I've started just blocking those people on twitter. Extra effort, yeah, but I think it's worth it
- James P.
from twhirl
"Expert in Yellow Pages" - I think I will frame that one! :o)
- Zack Brandit
It demonstrates you're full of lies. Only someone full of lies would make such an assertion. In main part saying you're a social media expert shows you think of it as a job rather than a lifestyle.
- Richard A.
social media = message boards. they are one in the same. no need for deep analysis - they've been on the web forever.
- Patricia
What's funny is that companies actually advertise for social media experts--looking to add a Web 2.0 person to their fold. Of course some don't get it and say 'I want 10 years of social media experience' and you're like 'hmmm...what was social media in 1998?'
- Andrew Leyden
"social media is a social disease - twitter is an STD"
- Russell Wagner
Sean: it is daunting. Actually, we created a DMZ line. Anything before yesterday (email wise) went into a folder and we'll start fresh with new emails that came in after yesterday.
- Robert Scoble
Does that mean less tweeting and friendfeed for you now?
- Richard A.
Richard: probably. Mostly cause I have a clear list of tasks and goals and projects now.
- Robert Scoble
Hehe, but then you'd lose part of your friendfeed and twitter identity.
- Richard A.
David Allen is awesome. And a big Notes fan :-)
- John Head
from twhirl
Robert - do you use a tasks mgmt / GTD app on the iPhone? If so, care to say which one?
- Patrick Jordan
Patrick: that's one of my tasks to figure out. :-) Right now we mostly cleared up my Outlook and got a good system setup. Capturing stuff on iPhone is next stage.
- Robert Scoble
Cool. There are A LOT of good choices out there. My current favorite is Things because of its simple, elegant UI on both desktop (Mac only) and iPhone - and seamless wireless sync between the two. Nozbe launched their native iPhone app this week - anyway, lots of good ones to choose from. Guess that's another task :)
- Patrick Jordan
I think anybody who wants to manage tasks on any sort of device should take a hard look at http://www.rememberthemilk.com. If it has a weak spot, it'd be the lack of Outlook integration, IMHO :-/
- Ken Sheppardson
@ Ken - RTM is very good. I haven't seen their native iPhone app, but have used the web-based app and liked it ...
- Patrick Jordan
Outlook integration? It has an open API, wouldn't an Outlook hacker need to create a plugin or something?
- Rah-PM 2012
Chalk me up as another fan of RTM. Works great on an iPhone, with the free application.
- Ian Betteridge
Productivity seems to be a real focus at the moment - there's a free trial with a bunch of videos right here... http://the845club.com
- Mark
GTD rocks! I agree with Ken about Remember The Milk. It's free and can be configured to be a great GTD app.
- Todd Brunner
from twhirl
Rahsheen: There are probably 200+ requests for RTM<->Outlook syncing of some sort in the RTM forums, and a couple of half-harted stabs at a plugin, but nobody's delivered anything yet AFAIK. The RTM API is pretty easy... Sort of the opposite of writing an Outlook plugin, particularly an Outlook plugin that'll run on anything besides the author's box. (OK, so I'm exaggerating... slightly.)
- Ken Sheppardson
Michael Dolan is great. The video is awesome and its great to see people with a very visible profile talking about GTD.
- Adam Martin
Jeff: it is one of those, yes. I think Facebook fixed itself though. Getting these videos up is pretty darn tough. Now I remember why I like using a cell phone with Qik and Kyte.
- Robert Scoble
would be fun to see the difference in flow between facebook public vs you tube. at least with facebook you can guarantee the quality if it works.
- Jeff Sandquist
Any idea why there is not much discussion about this one? I mean, I am writing this from India, and I think it is a pretty inspirational speech coming from an industry leader who clearly loves his country, and who understands what drives real economic prosperity. Or is it because (as Paul asks while sharing this in Google Reader) it is too late to make an impact?
- Suresh R Iyer
im an indian educated in the east & the west now living in the west, i think it is too late to make an impact, this could have come at a worse time for theeast and could have come at a worse time for the west -- as i see it the west is not going to produce the sheer quantity of engineers, scientists, doctors and other professionals that are and will be required to bring all the jobs...
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- atul abraham
from twhirl
erratta : this couldn´t have happened at a worse time for the west.
- atul abraham
from twhirl
Ballmer should have given this speech to the Republicans. They have cut where he said add and they act like tax cuts for the rich are the answer to every problem. You need to earn income before a tax cut means anything.
- Phil Boiarski
I would like to make a comment extending upon atul's thoughts. One of the things I have observed as regards this conversation about eastern education and western education and how they stack up to one another: the key to equity is what I saw in my humble (limited) investigation of it: We here in the west do not have the family focus on and support of the son or daughter student that I observe they do in the east. The discipline inculcated in the family (as a whole) is also missing. There are exceptions.
- Melanie Reed
Also, the respect (not meaning total agreement) but respect of and for the teacher is also missing. A friend of mine from India made a comment to me as we crossed a street on campus one day that many students here would be in for a rude awakening if they brought their attitudes to the Indian classroom. I think we can learn something here and it will be hard.
- Melanie Reed
Thanks for the thoughts, Atul and Melanie. I think India is changing and at least in the major cities it is considered cool to ape America without understanding what really drives the innovation in America (we seem to copy the worst parts -- fast food & credit cards -- and ignore the best parts since that is tougher to copy!). You are dead right about the focus on family, humility and education (for the lower and middle class people).
- Suresh R Iyer
Well crap... that is not fun. Hang in there Robert (sending rocmanusa a tweet now)
- Brian Roy
I hate that you had to let him go, Robert. I'm sure with your massive following you'll be able to get him hooked up with something else fast.
- David Wilson
Sorry to hear that, Robert. It always hurts when it hits close to home...
- FFing Enigma
That truly sucks. Sadly, there are a lot of other folks out there right now going through a similar experience.
- The original Kevin
maybe you can spread the word on his skills and help hook him up with a new job? surely someone is out there who is looking for someone with his skills?
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
Sucks but think big picture. If "this" is one of the toughest days of your life you have led a very very charmed life and should be counting yourself one of the luckiest peeps alive. Walla, now you have the attitude adjustment to go forth and help friend where possible. :)
- SteVe C
It's happening all over. Hope that doesn't add too much to your workload.
- Phil Boiarski
Robert, so sorry to hear that on behalf of RocMan - please send my regards to him. He was one of the hardest working people there.
- Jesse Stay
Wow that is incredibly harsh. It's tough enough when you have to lay off employees in general, let alone someone you considered a friend.
- Devlin Dunsmore
from twhirl
Hang in there buddy. Have unfortunately had too many months of that. Call me if you want to talk to someone.
- Patrick Moorhead
Sorry to hear about @rocmanusa. One of my business contacts was laid off yesterday, so it's all over. And Peter, sorry to hear about your layoff.
- Ontario Emperor
that's too bad. Rocky's a great guy and was a fantastic video editor, producer, friend. Tought times indeed.
- Thomas Hawk
Oh wow, that would SUCK big time!! My heart goes out to you...he was a dear friend and collegue to you... I am sorry **** HUG **** . That is scary too isn't it?!
- Susan Beebe
Sorry, Robert its tough when your friends are laid off
- Kim Landwehr
Bummer Robert. Heartfelt wishes and best of luck to your friend rocmanusa.
- JCunwired
sorry, sometimes i think it's harder psychically on the person doing the layoff than the one cut
- Dan Perlman
from twhirl
That is hard, Robert. I feel for you. @rocmanusa good luck finding something! I am sure @scobleizer will have a great word to help you out! Will root for you!
- Robert Couture
from Friend Deck
Robert that really sucks! And Rocky, I'm sorry to hear you were let go!!!
- Jeff P. Henderson
Nothing harder, Robert. I once built an entire news department, only to fire everyone after a 2 year run.
- Doug
Didin't realise it was Rocky till now. Now that really blows, man. Sorry. It sucks. :(
- Roberto Bonini
This is sad. Robert, how many people does Fast Company currently employ?
- Michael Forian
Dozens. Not sure of the whole number because Mansueto Ventures has Inc magazine too.
- Robert Scoble
That sucks, sorry to hear it - and hope Rocky gets straight into a great new gig ...
- Patrick Jordan
Sorry, Robert. It's happening everywhere, but that doesn't make it any easier.
- Louis Gray
Robert, I would only ask you one thing to make yourself feel better (regret is easy-action is harder) and think outside the box: Given the reverse, what would you like your friend to do for you? How far would you go to protect him or her? This is the kind of innovation, gentlemen (and ladies) that we need right now. Rather than hope, DO. DO everything you can to help your friend get a new job. And don't give up until its done.
- Melanie Reed
Melanie: I already have talked with a few people trying to find Rocky a job so I absolutely agree.
- Robert Scoble
{hugs} - I'm laid off too. It's a great time for an entrepreneur to grab a bunch of us talented developers and go into stealth mode on some super awesome new web site. I'm game for sure!
- iTad
Robert: Then you will both be blessed. I will be praying for you both until I hear its accomplished.
- Melanie Reed
It's tough, but i guess it wasn't coming out of the blue. Sometimes good companies just get into this mess because of bad timing. The good news are that some of them might survive the crisis, the bad ones are that no one really knows when this thing is about to end.
- Nir Ben Yona
From the *Wish It Were Not True Dep't* the likely future of Rocky's (and certainly millions of others) INBOX: Month 1: So sorry! Hugs! Month 2: Don't worry, something will turn up. Month 3: Dude, it's just a rough ride for everyone. Month 4: Maybe you should go back to school. Month 5: You just have to "reinvent" yourself ... yes, AGAIN. Month 6: Why didn't anyone speak up back in February and help Make #BasicIncomehttp://usbig.net/ Happen?
- michael silverton
i hate to say this but this should have been private :( there are just things that shouldn't be made public - especially by a boss. good luck to rocky in any case -
- Allen Stern
ooottttaaayyy, that's dreaming. i was finally persuaded the other day to live in the world how it is, not how i would love it to be. (don't you agree you gotta' spot me this one, Robert?) absolutely *not* at Rocky's expense; for honestly, the situation sux beyond belief *heaving sigh of complete empathy* really, we have to think about this on a serious massive scale; we all heard Davos, what are we *doing* about it? are we really going to just sit around believing business as usual will return any day?
- michael silverton
"Furthermore, the regular rhythm of the Sabbatical and Jubilee years meant that everyone would know when the next release was due, thereby giving fairness and equity to both creditor and debtor.[45][46] Hudson therefore maintains that not only was the Levitical legislation a significant advance over the prior attempts to deal with indebtedness, but this legislation was also eminently...
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- Melanie Reed
Hard for both of you for sure. Hang in there @rocmanusa.
- Micah
Already heard that, and I'm sad for both of you. Read my blog from today:-)
- Francine Hardaway
And I hope you didn't do it by email. Like someone did to me.
- Francine Hardaway
I'm a big fan of Rocky but I agree with Alex, not sure if this is appropriate way to announce a layoff... it could come across as being more about you than Rocky, you seem to be getting more sympathy than he.
- Tom Foremski
I hear you, Robert. It is an awful feeling.
- Pete D
You could keep Rocky as a contractor and you'll need to credit him on all the videos he Edited.
- paul mooney
Good talent is rarely out of work for long. Good luck to the both of you.
- MarkCarras
Sorry to hear, Rocky is a fun guy. Looks like a roadie, but much nicer.
- sean percival
:( ... I met Rocky and u while you guys were in HK last year. Can never expect the world change so quickly for the worst.
- Clarence Chiang
Well the good news is they got rid of Ed Sussman already. That had nothing to do with economics
- Marc Canter
Here's where FF fails. "I had to lay off my friend" and FriendFiend says 49 people "liked this." So sick.
- Michael Markman
Robert, I've had to layoff friends. Several times, and it never gets easier.
- Seth Greenblatt
from NoiseRiver
Sorry to hear that, I had to lay off my wife at the end of last year, we have worked together for 12 years.
- John D Reasor
Francine, I agree. I have had the email layoff experience so I can understand how you feel.
- Melanie Reed
This story really illustrates what a CEO friend of mine brings out constantly:is your relationship transactional or relational? Its the paradigm that needs to change. Business and its practices and thoughts have infiltrated our thinking for far too long. The phrase "It's just business." is going to go from grimly and begrudgingly accepted to the painful resentment needed to change it and our behavior towards one another. There are other ways.
- Melanie Reed
Resorting to what's always been done, is indicative of running out of ideas. btw- the CEO I mentioned wants to fight the "Transactional" way we treat all our relationships when it comes to business.
- Melanie Reed
Francine: i did read your post. Damn. I try never to deliver bad news through email. I hate it when people do that to me and I try to treat others the way I'd like to be treated. Allen: good point, but Rocky announced it on Twitter first and for better or for worse I live my life, good and bad, in public. It isn't always comfortable and it isn't always the best thing to do, I'm sure. But I chose to live my life in public and if I only shared the good stuff in my life you'd be seeing an incomplete picture.
- Robert Scoble
Also, my goal now is to help http://www.twitter.com/rocmanu... get a job. One advantage I have is my public network. By getting a crappy situation out here it might help. Already I've talked to a couple of people who saw this news and needed a good video editor.
- Robert Scoble
Sorry to hear Robert and it is great you are helping him. One of the big benefits of social networking
- Rob Cairns
++Melanie, there are global structural changes underway that could well open the door to these paradigm shifts, but prepare for a painful, and stubbornly lengthy transition. What if http://tr.im/ItIsThatBad ?
- michael silverton
Extraordinary: "I chose to live my life in public and if I only shared the good stuff in my life you'd be seeing an incomplete picture." -- RS. I've pointed this out before to others, and RS doesn't need my approval in any way; but this is indeed one of the foundational tenets of @scobleizer's revolutionary lifestyle. I suspect 80% of "followers" haven't the first f'ing clue of the road he's traveled to this point. Yes, Robert, talking about you in ur own thread. Nulle bastardo carborundum, including me.
- michael silverton
Thanks everyone. Got to keep as upbeat as possible.After all, nothing lasts forever. This is yet another test of character for me. I'm up for the challenge. I have to be. Robert, thanks for the memories. Good times, yeah? !!!
- Rocky Barbanica
Geez, sorry to hear about this, you guys were a great team. Lots of hard news for Rocky at all once, keep your chin up, you have mad skills!
- Phil Glockner
it is a sad day for you both, I'm sure. In this hyper connected world this is becoming all too common. We choose to work with people we know and like and then when the business changes... I've been thinking a lot about companies laying off people, then asking consumers to buy. Hey, we're all the same people on both sides of the spectrum.
- Valeria Maltoni
sorry to hear Rocky and Robert, really sad. Good luck Rocky.
- Loic Le Meur
Ugh, the recession is leaving nobody untouched.
- jjprojects
Facebook opens status. Wonder when they open search
- Steve Gillmor
aha...been focused on the stimulus bill today, haven't been paying attention to FB maneuvers..bad me. :)
- Karoli
I still hate Facebook and prefer Twitter. Maybe I will follow my Facebook on Friend Feed but that is about it.
- MarkCarras
Not a big Facebook fan either, MarkCarras. But I'm rapidly growing more frustrated with Twitter too.
- Karoli
I think we're seeing track via @maddow, does anyone else?
- Web Pixie
Ah...Facebook seeks to become rhizomatic, Twitter must consolidate its lead...
- Cliff Gerrish
totally didn't understand the 'track via @maddow' comment. tried, just didn't.
- Karoli
Good ol competition - Twitter doesn't stand a chance against Facebook though in that game. Once Facebook opens up the 5k friend limit there's no reason to stay on Twitter.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse -- will everyone on Twitter switch to Facebook? Will all the free publicity they get just stop?
- Dave Winer
My bet is Twitter will go the way of other market early trendsetters. They'll just fade away in significance as Facebook continues to innovate.
- Marc Canter
Marc, they said the same thing about Apple, many times and now you have an iPhone. :-)
- Dave Winer
Facebook is a different social model than Twitter. On FB you need to confirm friend requests, then you end up "following" everyone who wants to "follow" you. But on Twitter it's completely asymmetrical (unless you keep your profile private).
- Dan MacTough
I agree, the asymmetic follow relationship is key to the value of Twitter. Facebook is a different model of the flow of the social graph. Its speed of growth is limited by the requirement that two endpoints agree to connect.
- Cliff Gerrish
I wonder if it will push Twitter to more a friendfeed like interface and capabilities. Personally I think twittering is much easier that 'status updates' (I don't think I've ever used that in Facebook rather I just import my twitters) but with the 'masses' of FB users it's certainly a threat.
- Andrew Leyden
@Andrew Leyen I agree 100% that we to push twitter to be more likr friendfeed but then I think out load saying then where my friendfeed going to be involved.
- Victor
from twhirl
I agree it will force Twitter to innovate. I also think it will force Twitter to integrate more with other services
- Rob Cairns
I hope it gets Twitter and FF to work together more often. Tighter integation is full of win
- Roberto Bonini
Use Tweetdeck search on TED as a RSS feed. No need to go near TED.
- Chris Frost
Chris: no mosquitos, either! I know a guy who got $6 million in VC because he went to TED last year, though. So, there's that.
- Robert Scoble
Not fully worked out yet but my TED idea would involve the environment and robots.
- Andrew Smith
robert: actually, it's a global agenda; so would they then leave the planet because they can't exist without Poverty? Mission Accomplished! not mission of eliminating business -- puh-lease! -- mission of moving forward beyond our little incubator planet! ;-)
- michael silverton
Michael: nice try there, too. But giving out free money increases costs. All you would do if you did that globally is increase poverty around the world.
- Robert Scoble
++Awesome Garin - love the meta context as guide-meme!
- michael silverton
Create a globally available phycological/lifestyle help/coaching institution or just culture and somehow teach people to recognize when they need it
- Jay Bird
robert: "free money" is a popular misconception; it's not free, it's the decades and decades of Productivity Dividend returned to stakeholders from which it was extracted and hoarded. TANSTAAFL! There is a serious Journal of Postscarcity Studies being formulated by much more qualified team than us, even as we chat here. Way too complex to engage with using the usual cliche's we'd be tempted to trade here. ;-)
- michael silverton
michael: ooottttaaayyy. I live in the world how it is, not how I would love it to be. Glad to talk with you, let me know when your idea turns into reality.
- Robert Scoble
robert: (chuckling) you're welcome in advance. that's probably what you would have told me in 1997 when i said, "we need symmetric gigabit ethernet to every home," too. so enjoy the Free Ride we give you in your easy World As It Is while we keep improving it for you. it's always the damned Free Rider problem, people getting something for nothing. "it's the Debil, Bobby Boucher, the Debil!" always fun to touch base, keep on skatin'! ;-)
- michael silverton
++ScottBourne! Often the most striking and poignant lessons of all come from such sustained discipline and fascination. Sounds promising!
- michael silverton
community currencies on an openmoney platform - any community, any network, any association can create and manage these recirculating currencies as easy as creating egroups on yahoo/google/fb/ff - people/businesses/orgs manage their own accounts like online banking, nobody in the middle to be the deciders, NOT a tax dodge - what's the catch? too good to be true?
- ernie yacub
whatever you do, jeff, make sure it's in a place where the world Is As It Is and As It Always Should Be; or robert might get motion sickness from the accelerating change. http://tr.im/microsoft1975 :-) [i'm *teasing* robert! hope you know by now that i'm an unapologetic fan.]
- michael silverton
jeez i show u the next big thing (yo ted u listening?) and all u can think about is food? how u gonna pay for it when the money runs out?
- ernie yacub
ps its not a competition, everybody wins.
- ernie yacub
Jeff Sandquist showed me lots of new stuff he's doing to keep his teams involved in Twitter, Facebook, and friendfeed worlds. I'll try to get a video up that I did with him, but gotta run to the airport in 30 minutes. Might be later tonight.
- Robert Scoble
Having a share to Friendfeed feature on Channel9 is cool, but please also add a video thumbnail or maybe even enable playing the video inline like youtube shares on FF. For example, sharing from Channel9 to Facebook has the video thumbnail.
Unlike twitter, Friendfeed has a very visual element to it. Try to do a search for entries with likes:100 and you see that almost all have a photo attached.
- Alan Le
good feedback. i'll pass this onto the team.
- Jeff Sandquist