I think I'm old enough that if I don't really get it, she must be doing something right.
- s t e v e
She plays the hell outta that piano, writes her own music, and seems to know how to manage her image. Sounds like star material to me.
- Christopher Harley
Poker Face and Paparazzi are good songs.
- Mike Nayyar
Mike check out the lyrics to pokerface...See if it's still a good song....
- Rasmus Lauridsen
Confession: I *love* her taste in wardrobe. There, I said it. I'm not sure what that means about me, but you are welcome to sexually harass me about it.
- Wirehead
I heard several parodies before I ever heard her sing one of her songs. I still don't think I've heard her sing an entire song of hers. I have zero interest.
- MarkCarras
Know what's sad? Her whole stage show is brilliantly Bowie - her songs are typical early 00s pop garbage. IMHO.
- Ciaoenrico
I did listen to some weird song with weird clothes, can't remember the name. Then I realized it could be every song. :P
- Faraz Mullick
If she made the kind of music she made as Stephanie Germanotta, I'd buy her albums in a heartbeat. If she makes what she is making, she'll become a star but I would not listen to her music.
- Parth Awasthi
I'm going make a bold prediction... now that she's getting her name out there with outrageous costumes and performances, she'll soon (within a year or two, anyway) come out with a "serious, artistic album" that showcases her underlying talent, without (much of) the showbiz glam stuff. I didn't care for Cristina Aguilera until she released her bluesy album and demonstrated what a awesome singing voice she really has. (Of course, now when she sees this she'll change her plan out of spite. ;oP)
- Mark "DerBingle" J
...but it would only be cool to you and a few other people but if you tell your co-workers or family it might be lame to them or you would have to explain the history of it, at length, in an attempt to communicate just how mind blowingly cool it was etc... I spoke to Leo, John C and Lisa Bettany live on TWiT this morning... I'm really am not trying to brag, I just know my friends here would share in the mind-blowing-awesomeness of it and what it means to me... That's why I love you guys on FriendFeed :)
- Johnny Worthington
from email
RAPatton is the current FF top addict. :-) I've clearly been a lot more active recently (or a lot of people have been a lot less active), I'm back up to 14th.
- Kol Tregaskes
from Bookmarklet
Brittany Murphy died early this morning after she went into full cardiac arrest and could not be revived, multiple sources tell TMZ. She was 32. A 911 call was made at 8:00 AM from a home in Los Angeles that is listed as belonging to her husband, Simon Monjack, the Los Angeles City Fire Department tells TMZ.
- rowlikeagirl
from Bookmarklet
Still no other news sources getting outside confirmation.I don't know, it sounds fishy.
- Ciaoenrico
NY Daily News has it posted. So does HuffPo. no other big outlets yet
- Archangel ωαřмaiden
All the other outlets I see say "TMZ reports that..."
- Brian Sullivan
Saw the TMZ and NY Daily News articles, but I'm still hoping this is a terrible hoax. Brittany gone and yet Kim Kardashian still walks the earth? God has a bizarre sense of humor.
- Ken & Kiyomi
from iPod
The problem is that many credible (i.e. "hard") news outlets have barely any staffing on weekends any more. A few of the pseudo-paparazzi news outlets have "stringers," or freelancers, stake out the L.A.-area hospitals on weekends for celeb appearances. I'll be surprised if any newspapers have this until tomorrow. Lord knows the LATimes won't.
- rowlikeagirl
I agree Row, but CNN is ahead of them, and they would bang this story like a gong if they could back it up. In fact, they have a huge building on Sunset - they could have someone at the hospital in minutes for a confirmation.
- Ciaoenrico
True, CNN + MSNBC are still well-funded these days. Papers, not so much.
- rowlikeagirl
@Ciaoennrico A death at 32 not tragic? What does her career have to do with it being tragic or not? How about her family losing her? Her friends? People who enjoyed her on screen... :-(
- Rasmus Lauridsen
very sad, tragic and unfortunate, indeed :(
- Nima نیما
I do NOT want these for my birthday. And if anyone ever *thinks* about buying this crap for my girl, I'll stomp a hole in them AND talk bad about they mama all over the internet.
You thought I was annoyed when I posted all the pink MiniBlocs and Tinkertoys crap, this had me fuming. A fucking pink 8 ball? SERIOUSLY? This stupid marketing to girls has got to stop. I managed to play Yahtzee just fine without a furry pink cup and dice with friggin' butterflies and flowers.
- Admiral Anika
My 5 yr old daughter would love these :(
- WorldofHiglet
Pink is so overdone with girls' stuff... and it looks like it's gotten worse.
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
Hig, you do see Ilia's hand on the telescope. I just sucked my teeth and kept on walking.
- Admiral Anika
The latest offense I've seen is the lilac *Hanna Montana* PSP. This stuff aggravates me so. much.
- Kamilah Gill
Anika, is Ilia not allowed to have ANYTHING pink?
- Soup
I don't mind the pink telescope in particular. I don't feel that girls should have to shun pink in order to like science (and while I'd be really, really annoyed to be limited to lip gloss and makeup...if you think about it, all of those products require a mastery of chemistry as well as many other things and yet they're looked down on simply because women are the primary market…I had a...
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- joey
What's wrong with a science set that makes lip gloss? It's still chemistry, and not all chemists have to be pharmaceutical researchers. If it gets a young girl interested in science, let it be pink. Maybe then if it is pink, she won't have to worry about her peers thinking she's a nerd or somehow less-than-feminine for liking things that aren't traditionally thought of as feminine pursuits.
- cecily
The pinkification I still find dangerous - again this idea that to be "ok" a girl has to fit such a narrow narrow narrow range, this conformism you pick up, this required constant worry about fitting in and what others might think... I think it is conditioning. On the other hand the trivialisation of "girly" interests is also negative, the idea that if you make red ink or light acid...
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- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
I'm raising my kid not to be worried about what others think of her. I don't care what the chemistry set makes, it's that it's pink. She can make lip glass with a standard chemistry set. I don't see how making things pink make it okay for a girl to pursue certain interests. I had most of these toys as a child in normal primary colors. Besides extracting more money from parents (because yes, these do costs more than the "regular" ones) what purpose does the pink serve besides to trivialize?
- Admiral Anika
And Ilia has pink stuff. I don't like it, but she does. <--That has nothing to do with pink being "girly" I just think the color is pukey. But I don't go out of my way to buy her pink stuff (Sanrio stuff, excepted) and depending on the item, I'll let it slide. But this stuff? HELL NO.
- Admiral Anika
Pink doesn't trivialize. Pink is a colour. We put our own meaning on it. EDIT: And while I'm not a parent, I was a little girl/teenage girl once, and I know that sometimes the opinions of our peers counts more than the opinions of our parents. If that weren't the case, I never would've ridden my bike in the street, rollerskated down the huge hill at my elementary school, or as I got...
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- cecily
Joelle, that's how I feel about it...that there are implications on both sides for conditioning and of trivialization of traditionally 'feminine' interests. It's tough, because both of them are things that I want to avoid.
- joey
Okay, maybe the color itself doesn't trivialize, but the flowers and butterflies on the Yahtzee game, the fact that the telescope is less powerful, but costs more, the microscope that that doesn't come with blood or bug slides...I have a pretty smart, girly girl who is interested in science as it is.
- Admiral Anika
And FWIW, I hated pink as a little girl, unless it was pale pink ribbons on the ends of my pigtails. :)
- cecily
Anika, if the telescope is less powerful and that the microscope is less complete, etc. then that is a totally different issue to me. THAT is trivializing. Like, 'oh here, have your play toy while the boys have their real one.'
- joey
What Joey said. It isn't about the colour necessarily, it's about that they're limiting the features because they're targeting girls.
- cecily
And Cecily, I was raised (as just about everyone in our family) that what others think of your (honest) pursuits, the clothes you wear and all that is frivolous as long as you do what makes you happy and enjoy your pursuits. I'm teaching her the same thing. I've never been a herd-follower. If anyone had an issue with it when I was little, I never heard it. I got mocked for clothes I wore, but then in a year everyone else was wearing it too. Still, never cared because I thought I looked good. =)
- Admiral Anika
I think it's less about being part of the 'herd', than it is part of a child's process of individuating from their parents and making their own choices, even if those choices are informed by their friends. There are different spheres of influence, and they all contribute to a child's development.
- cecily
I think so long as you don't make it not okay for Ilia to like pink your efforts, Anika, are commendable. She (and any other little girl) should never feel they can ONLY use some colours/toys/items just as they shouldn't feel they can NEVER use some colours/toys/items. As far as children following their parents example or their peers...it really depends on the child and on the home life. I never cared what other kids my age thought of me, in fact I generally thought they were immature little drones.
- Soup
By the way Anika, how old is Ilia? I think she might be quite small yet, yes? I ask because I have a book series I think you'd both enjoy but it's a chapter book series for young adults (late elementary-middle school depending on the kid)
- Soup
She's 6.5 right now. She's been getting read chapter books for the past 3 years. It's only recently that I started reading her fiction for her age group.
- Admiral Anika
Why is blue not crammed down the throats of our little boys the way pink is for our girls? How come all their toys aren't in blue? Where is the blue is for boys easy bake oven that makes bug shaped cakes? Little blue vacuum cleaners that don't pick up as much dirt as the ones made for little girls? Yeah sure you can say there is nothing wrong with all this inferior pink girly crap meant...
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- April Russo (app103)
April, I agree with much of that, but by saying that only the 'blue' one is the 'legitimate' one, we're already making it just as bad for boys and cramming each gender in their respective box. Why is blue or black or whatever real and 'regular' (the standard of normalcy) and pink fake and inferior? I just think the issues go deeper than the color. Who decides what is 'overly' feminine...
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- joey
As a parent of small children of both sexes, I think this hyper-gendertyping is dangerous for them both. It's almost impossible to buy my son regular clothes. They're covered in modes of transportations, reptiles and such. There IS a boy's version of the Easy Bake oven and it's blue and grey. My kids play just fine with their toys at home. Both of my kids used to carry a little pink...
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- Admiral Anika
Anika, I agree. I think we should have choices and that there should be more neutrality in general rather than things typed for one gender being 'normal' while others are 'inferior' or things being segregated. *&&*^#&$^ marketing.
- joey
Oh boy, Anika, don't come to Japan then. A story: a friend from the US came to a dinner, and we went to a nice Japanese restaurant in Tokyo called Gompachi (where Bush and Koizumi went, but that's a different WMD). He had to use the boy's room, and so I steered him in that direction. After a couple minutes, he comes back to the table and asks: so, er, which is the mens' room - the...
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- Rick Cogley
While this video is a parody of the feminizing of toys and games, it really does hit the nail right on the head with what is wrong with so much of it: http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- April Russo (app103)
One day I will write a book telling of all the adventures me and Nakachi had in Vegas. The good, the bad, the busted shoplifting in Office Max. Hahahahahaha.
It will include a shout out to the Henderson Police Department and them only writing a ticket as opposed to putting some bitches in handcuffs.
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
via dorothysurrenders.blogspot.com You know, I’m officially excited for this movie now. I was worried; I still have worries. But this first photo from “The Runaways” (formerly “Cherry Bomb”) is so fucking fierce that I don’t care. I just want to go to there. Immediately. It’s not necessarily the ...
- Helen Sventitsky
from Posterous
I was excited until I heard Kristen Stewart was playing Joan Jett.
- cecily
from iPhone
Why is a movie about Joan Jett being made? She's still alive! She was on set! The 80's weren't that long ago!
- Mike Nayyar
Hmmm....I've never seen Kristen Stewart act (I've avoided the Twilight movies like the plague), but I'll take your word for it, Cecily. Mike, lots of movies about the 80's have been made over the last decade. 24 Hour Party People, for example, is about the Manchester party scene in the mid-80's and features people playing members of New Order and Happy Mondays.
- Helen Sventitsky
...which is one of my all-time fave movies, partly for that reason: "That's not how I remembered it..."
- T. Brent, technopeasant
Hollywood studio movers and shakers are mostly 80s kids. This is simply another facet of the same reasons for the 70s/80s remake/reboot bonanza.
- Michael W. May
She's just...one dimensional. Joan is awesome, and I just can't see Stewart doing her justice.
- cecily
from iPhone
When I was younger I couldn't decide whether I wanted to be Joan Jett or Chrissie Hynde.
- Katy S
I have been jonesing for this movie since I first heard about it. I just hope it's as good as I want it to be.
- Ciaoenrico
That was fun! The three beers made everything even MORE fun. Jandy's been telling me for months that drunk Rock Band is more fun than sober Rock Band and now I believe her.
- Lis Miller
I wouldn't think the drunk matters as much as having bandmates
- RAPatton
from iPhone
Sooooo wish there was a block feature in Facebook! My right-wing conspiratorial, red-neck ignorant and bat-shit crazy family members would be getting a heaping helping of a cock-block right about now. They need to take their myopic & crazy as fuck views elsewhere...
There is. Click the "Hide" button on any of their entries that show up on your News Feed and select the "Hide <person's name>" option. Unless you're trying to block them from friending/messaging you?
- Brian Chang
I work all the way through Christmas Eve, baby; I'll take off at noon and then return in the new year, after I return from the Rose Bowl
- RAPatton
I work mon- wed then off until Jan 4
- holly
from iPhone
I work Monday, then I'm out until the 29th.
- ÉllbeeÇee
I'm working monday through thursday dayshifts.
- Beau Liening
My schedule is like Holly's. Our library in-service day is on Tuesday. For the most part, I'll be "working" Tuesday and Wednesday. On Monday the archives is open, and I know at least one person is probably coming.
- Laura Lou Who
I am working Mon, Wed and Thursday. Had a personal day I needed to take before the end of the year.
- aden
I'm "working from home" *cough* on Monday... off until the 4th after that.
- MASTER OF THE OBVIOUS
Working Monday if the snow clears, otherwise a personal day. Working Tues-Weds. Unpaid furlough day Thurs, off Christmas. Furlough day New Years Eve. yay.
- m9m, Crone of FriendFeed
Assuming the snow goes away before Wednesday, I'm supposed to work Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday, but then I'm off until Jan 4. My wife is supposed to work Monday, Tuesday and half a day Wednesday.
- Curtiss Grymala
from iPhone
Mr has to work mon & tues. He'll drive home tues night.
- R1CC1
I work every work day except Christmas.
- Derek Coward
I'm working five hours each day Monday to Thursday, Christmas Day off and then four hours on Boxing Day (wooo double time and a half)
- Bryce Roney
Working full days Mon/Tues, a half day Wed, off for Christmas Eve and Christmas, as well as the weekend. Then it's the same for the following week (though I was originally going to have it off), with days off on New Years Eve and New Years Day.
- Penguin It's Cold Outside
I do and am grateful....at least, I hope I get to work. ;)
- Melanie Reed
i do! monday through wednesday. it's ok, though, as i expect it to be very quiet, so i should be able to finish a project i've been dragging my feet on.
- Katie
At work! And not a single customer for the first hour. :( Gonna be a long day.
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
see...now i wanna know what the story is behind this. did someone f'ck the dolphin? are they talking about f'ing with the dolphins and the dolphins go all westside on people?
- Sir Shuping
I just sold my Lenovo S10 netbook to my dad. I had it for just over a year and it was a great little computer. It was so portable. But I found that I rarely used it being that I have a couple of other computers. It was also a little under powered for what I was looking to use it for, which was editing Canon 5DmkII RAW photos while in the field or on vacation. For surfing the web, it was...
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- Jeff P. Henderson
Congrats! Jeff, the Asus 1201n is out. It has 12" screen, dual core Atom, and nvidia ion graphics. Same 3lb as with other 10". Battery life is probably 3-5 hrs
- Rodfather
from Android
That is what this is, Rodfather. What has impressed me the most is the battery life. It kicks my macbook battery's ass.
- Mary Carmen
@Rodfather, Thanks, I will have to go and check it out. dI idn't know the dual core atom was out yet.
- Jeff P. Henderson
I'm still using mine all the time, every day for over a year now. I love it. I never worry when unplugging it. Jeff, it uses the nettop version basically. The N330. Pineview netbooks will be out next year.
- Rodfather
well thats a good thing my friend...:)
- VAL D. Zone
I got myself an Acer Aspire One a few months ago, and it's become my almost constant companion when I go out now. In fact I'm using it now in the local B&N to type this. It came with Windows XP, but I installed Ubuntu Karmic UNR as a dual boot. Recently, I removed XP altogether as Karmic runs much better, and the Windows partition was simply wasting space.
- Ian May
"It has all the hallmarks of a politician's glossy Christmas card. Pastoral setting? Check. Doe-eyed golden retriever? Check. Handsome couple dressed in smart casual? Check. Same-sex couple? That was too much for "a handful of bigots" who objected to Scott Brison's holiday greeting card depicting him and spouse Maxime St. Pierre, according to the Nova Scotia Liberal MP. "The overwhelming response has been very positive," Brison said from Windsor, N.S. "There's always a very, very tiny minority of bigots. It's their problem, it's not my problem." At least one news website had to shut down its comments section running under a story about the card. The Globe and Mail web editor said the section was shut down because of "hateful and homophobic remarks." Brison is one of the few openly gay members of Parliament. He married his partner in 2007, two years after same-sex marriage became legal in Canada. He easily won re-election last year. The card features the two men standing in a field...
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- cecily
from Bookmarklet
This card totally threatens my masculinity and my marriage.
- s t e v e
First we let them get married and now we let them own dogs? Man, Canada is truly going to hell in a handbasket.
- DJF
I think it's a bit sad that they're standing so far apart. They might as well be brothers, not a couple. That said, what a gorgeous dog!
- cecily
cecily, that was actually my first reaction too. An opposite sex couple would have been _touching_ each other at least
- DJF
I hope they sent a card to their friends that was just like this, except with both guys totally naked.
- s t e v e
It's really a gorgeous card, whether they are touching or not. I actually like couple cards like this that look so natural as opposed to some of the posed cuddling I see on so many cards that feature a photo of a couple. Having said that, the people who are upset about it are idiots.
- Katy S
"There's always a very, very tiny minority of bigots." Who are often unfortunately very loud and with manners that would make their mothers and grandmothers weep for seeing it.
- Michael W. May
=( I HAZ A SORRY!!! I've been in a rather Grinchy mood the past week or so, plus I've been trying to wrap up the family drama before Christmas gets here. Otherwise I'm facing the prospect of three family Christmas-es rather than the normal two, and I don't know if my brain can handle that right now...
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
No need to apologize. We miss you. I have been a bit absent amidst my job searchings. It has been a bit difficult to find that Holiday spirit and cheer. But I persevered and did. Hope that both of you are well.
- Mathew A. Koeneker
I miss her, too! I was just thinking about her yesterday.
- Rochelle
Well, there's the job search thing (which is demoralizing and dragging on forever and takes hours every day), plus the Christmas thing (which isn't as much fun when I don't have the funds to go find niftiness for my family), plus the family drama thing (which has the potential of just thoroughly trashing the holiday season). All in all I've been in about the worst possible mood and have just been stewing in my own misery for the past week or so. I'm trying to dig out of it, though... 2009 cannot win!
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Tina I think Donuts and Coffee are in order. What are you doing tomorrow AM?
- Gunny doesn't side-hug™
Actually, I'm going to be on an interview call of sorts tomorrow morning, Gunny.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Hear Hear, WoH. Hi, Tina. Sorry you're feeling Grinchy, but so understandable. ((Tina))
- Micah Wittman
Sorry you're having traumas, Tina. I hope it all resolves itself so you have a peaceful Christmas - we'll be waiting here with the LOLcats and funnies :)
- WorldofHiglet
Alright - we saw Avatar this afternoon. It was more than halfway into it before I realized how much of what I was watching wasn't real, but CGI. Best damned CGI I've ever seen anywhere, ever. Avatar is to CGI movies what Jurassic Park was to pre-CGI movies.
I was expecting some amazing 3D-movie game changer, but didn't notice any. The 3D in the movie was extremely well done, but not mind-shattering. The story, the setting, the characters all made the movie - not the 3D.
- Chrimmus Tad
T2 was more revolutionary for CGI than Jurassic Park was...and a far better movie.
- Alex Scoble
You think it was worth seeing it in 3D, Tad? Have you seen others recently where it was or wasn't worth it?
- Ken Sheppardson
It think part of the reason why the 3D was so good was because it wasn't so painstakingly pointed out as "LOOK THIS PART IS IN 3D!!!!". It just was... it was support instead of the focus. And the story was really good. I think it was worth the experience in 3D but I love the fact that the 3D just enhanced and wasn't a big gag-line in the whole thing like most 3D movies I've seen before this one.
- Fa La La La Lindsay
Yeah, they got the "Look, 3D" part out of the way in the first scene aboard the ship, then most of the rest was just the cool holographic screens. I'm curious how much of the movie is actually CG.
- Rob Haas
From what I can tell, Rob, it's almost all CGI
- Alex Scoble
It's very impressive in that regard. The Star Wars prequels, while nice looking, were obviously really sterile and empty CGI sets. They fixed that problem in Avatar.
- Rob Haas
Yeah, as brash and full of hubris that James Cameron is, he's a far better director than George Lucas will ever hope to be.
- Alex Scoble
Avatar >>>>>>>> Star Wars Prequels.
- Chrimmus Tad
Yes - I think it should probably only be seen in 3D. It's the way the director intended it to be seen. Like Lindsay said, 3D was used to enhance the movie rather than just existing to be a gimmick. Much happier ending than Titanic. :D
- Chrimmus Tad
saw it in IMAX on the giant screen in 3D. Was awesome. Very immerse experience. CGI was crazy.
- Bill Kinney
I got called out as a heretic by my theology teacher when I was a junior in high school. My particular heresy was pantheism. Now that I think about it, I guess that was the beginning of my struggle with faith.
I think its a good thing that the devil has stopped burning people [ through those claiming to be Catholics] at the stake. I never trust the name unless the actions back it up. A person can call themselves anything.
- Melanie Reed
Saying it was the Devil lets those people off the hook. It was people. Individual people making the decision to burn people alive.
- Spidra Webster
Spidra, I agree. It takes two to do those things. There has to be cooperation and agreement. My statement does not endorse "the Devil made me do it". We are responsible for what we do. But by doing those things a person identifies him or herself as not having been of Christ in the first place but wearing a mask.
- Melanie Reed
YHWH can totally kick Thor's ass, so watch yourself.
- Christopher A Carr
Melanie: One can do terrible things by closely following the books you worship (no devil required). In fact, where Abrahamic religions have become less literal, they've become more innocuous.
- Christopher A Carr
Christopher: One can do terrible things mis-following any book read, including scientific ones.
- Melanie Reed
Science books don't generally tell you who needs to be stoned to death, and under what circumstances.
- Christopher A Carr
In fact, science books don't really tell you anything about ethics and morality at all.
- Victor Ganata
No, they can show you how to make bombs with the power to melt people's skin off and eye matter out of their eye sockets not to put too fine a point on our misuse of a wonderful gift of intelligence.
- Melanie Reed
Showing you how isn't the same thing as telling you to actually do it.
- Victor Ganata
What is your point about the stoning to death? It's horrible to be stoned to death. We all agree with that. But what we fail to see is that the pain and hurt and agony of (murder, incest, adultery and other causes) were perfectly all right for us to do to one another. Just so long as a moral Law giver did not tell us: "No".
- Melanie Reed
In fact, YHWH may have more strength points than The Hulk.
- Christopher A Carr
LMFAO - Are you apologizing for the edict that adulterers be stoned to death?
- Christopher A Carr
No, not apologizing at all. Have you seen the hatred and murder that have increased around the world, the broken homes and lost children and spouses who have been devastated because of it. It has gotten worse not better.
- Melanie Reed
I agree, killing these individual by stoning is the only sensible course of action.
- Christopher A Carr
*Windexes the windows of his glass house*
- Derrick
Has murder really increased around the world? These would be interesting statistics, but difficult to verify.
- Kurt Starnes
Christopher: you will get to see (and are now seeing) what will happen. The great "scientific experiment" if you will is under way. And we will see if the way the world wants things will work. It will be allowed to go to its logical conclusion.
- Melanie Reed
Regarding Victor's original statement regarding his struggle with faith, has a correlation between faith and "goodness" (less murder, rape, crime, divorce, etc.) ever been established? I don't think it has.
- Kurt Starnes
Thanks for that Christopher - as I expected.
- Kurt Starnes
The jump from Catholicism to pantheism is really more of a hop.
- Jeremy (cropmarks)
Jeremy: Catholicism has certainly made more concessions to reality (condom thing notwithstanding) than have American literalist protestants.
- Christopher A Carr
Oh, that whole "God's not really the creator" stuff. Yeah, I head about that.
- Jeremy (cropmarks)
The theory of origin of species despite all the evidence to the contrary. It's understandable. I't's one more step toward humanism.
- Jeremy (cropmarks)
Heh, my understanding is that his belief in pantheism was part of the basis for the numerous charges against Giordano Bruno.
- Victor Ganata
Christopher: yes, this is an idea against another idea. A reality against a perceived reality And one will prevail in the end. If you are right, then nothing I say will change that. So we'll find out. I for my part have made my choice. And as Jeremy introduces the word "humanism" , I will state that is the other idea: Man making himself "god" deciding what is real and not, what is true...
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- Melanie Reed
What pisses me off more is when humans try to make themselves The Invisible Pink Unicorn. I *HATE* that.
- Christopher A Carr
Interesting topic. Melanie, can you explain your last sentence? I think I'm missing something. "We have been asked to endure it even to our death if necessary." Also, science is not meant to advocate or claim ethics or morality. Science is a tool we use to understand ourselves and the world. We use science to understand facts which we apply our own morals and values to. Science might say that fish contain mercury, and religion might say not to eat fish. The point of each is different.
- Heather
Science can be employed to help us understand something about the biological underpinnings of human primate morality and ethics. It can also help us understand how ethical mores change over time via cultural (memetic) evolution.
- Christopher A Carr
Even in that case, science can only tell us how things are, and how things came to be. It may even predict what will be. It still doesn't tell us anything about how things should be.
- Victor Ganata
I'm not willing to cede morality and ethics to religionists.
- Christopher A Carr
Jeremy: I would be interested in hearing about this evidence against biological evolution. It would aid in our battle against the vast conspiracy of satanic biologists, satanic molecular biologists, satanic zoologists, satanic geneticists, satanic computer scientists, satanic game theoreticians, satanic population geneticists, satanic paleontologists...
- Christopher A Carr
I don't think secular society is devoid of morality and ethics. While, yeah, you can optimize happiness and fairness by acting on data from the study of neuropsychiatry, I have a hard time seeing how the actual optimization would be considered science. Sure, you can have ethics and morality based on scientific principles, but is the ethics and morality actually science? Maybe I'm just arguing definitions, though.
- Victor Ganata
"I have a hard time seeing how the actual optimization would be considered science." <-- Perhaps "engineering" is a more apt description.
- Christopher A Carr
Victor, science doesn't tell us any type of "should" on purpose. That's a value judgment, which inherently varies between people. I don't think there is any system that can cleanly, effectively, and across the board tell us "should" and "shouldn't". Optimization is impossible because of the differences in people's opinions. Even people who use the same set of influences, like religion, can come to different conclusions about what is morally right or wrong.
- Heather
Heather: You might find that Youtube link interesting.
- Christopher A Carr
Heather, Thank you for your question. Every discipline has a philosophy behind it. And I agree with you that Science is a tool, a very useful one. I have stated such before. I have also stated (on other threads) that I grew up "teething" on science as my father was a science teacher. I applied myself and won a number of science fairs and kept on my reading. My particular interest though...
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- Melanie Reed
"The large poster depicts a dejected-looking Joseph lying next to Mary, whose eyes are turned heavenwards, under the words: "Poor Joseph. God was a hard act to follow.""
- Eivind
from Bookmarklet
"Within hours of the billboard being erected outside the Anglican church of St Matthew's in the City, in central Auckland, it had been attacked by a man who clambered on to the roof of his car to smear brown paint over it. As a result it was almost obliterated and the church, which describes itself as "progressive", is seeking a replacement. Archdeacon Glynn Cardy said the billboard was...
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- Eivind
They could always use the apocryphal story from Josephs perspective in the Protoevangelium of James. It has always been much more believable to me than the conventional version most religious practitioners are familiar with. "My soul has been magnified this day, because mine eyes have seen strange things."
- Eric Logan
Blasphemy! There are only four gospels, twelve disciples and ONE Christ!
- Eivind
Amusing - but to St. Matthew's: why not throw the baby out with the bathwater?
- David (slumrig)
'Among leading critics was Lyndsay Freer, a spokesman for the Catholic Church, who said: "This is disrespectful and offensive to all Christians. "It's flying in the face of our 2,000-year-old beliefs," she said.'
- Mark
LOL! Poor Lyndsay doesn't seem to realise 2000-year-old beliefs are nothing to be proud of...
- Mark
I've seen Big Trouble in Little China way more times than Much Ado About Nothing yet I have the latter movie memorized entirely (and Big Trouble only mostly so). You would think it'd be the opposite considering that Much Ado's all, y'know, Shakespeare and whatnot. There's just something about Much Ado About Nothing that I so much love.
Perhaps it's because it was a movie that both my first girlfriend and I adored and identified with so greatly. I haven't spoken one word to her since 1996 (after a 5.5 year relationship). I can't watch this movie, think about Ultima VII, Ultima VII Part Two, and Ultima VIII, or eat cheesecake without thinking about her.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Well, Kate Beckinsale is a lot cuter than Kim Cattrall.
- Steven Perez
'A bird of my tongue is better than a beast of yours.' 'Would my horse have the speed of your tongue!' Frickin' brilliant.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Steven, ah, I always found Emma Thompson for more beautiful and attractive in this movie than Kate Beckinsale (which, yes, yes, I know: such blasphemy!).
- Akiva Moskovitz
Oh, and it's one of Sean Patrick Leonard's best roles. He kills it even when having to deliver the occasionally comedically over-wrought and melodramatic dialogue. They need to put this on Blu-ray just so I can hear Michael Keaton growl the word 'coxcomb' in 5.1 surround sound.
- Akiva Moskovitz
"O, that he were here to write me down an ass! But, masters, remember, that I am an ass; though it be not written down, yet forget not that I am an ass."
- Mark "DerBingle" J
Mark, indeed! 'Were I as tedious as a king, I would find it in my heart to bestow it all on your worship!' 'All they tediousness on me?' 'Yes!' [frustrated pause] 'I would feign to hear what it is you have to say!' Kills me every time.
- Akiva Moskovitz
m9m, the addition of the lawnchair is a stroke of pure genius on Branagh's part. That whole scene is just about as perfectly executed as you could want. 'And as you all know, he has a contemptible spirit!' 'AWWWWW.' [nervous pause followed by Benedick faking bird calls]
- Akiva Moskovitz
Akiva, Beatrice is one of my favorite Shakespearean heroines. She is the most fully developed of his female characters. Her lines are incredible as when she wisely tells the Prince that He is "too good for her to wear everyday" And her scenes with Benedick, especially when she reveals that a woman, too, can feel as deeply as a man about honor are genius!
- Melanie Reed
Yeah. Thompson owns the role as if she were born to play it. After Hero is shamed by Claudio at the wedding, Beatrice is just amazing. 'Oh G-d, were I a man I would eat his heart in the marketplace!' All of the frustrations of repressed women bound up perfectly in one statement.
- Akiva Moskovitz
But I must say that my favorite of all lines is when Benedick tells her: "Serve God, love me, and mend." perfect cadence and thought.
- Melanie Reed
Ah, my favorite line in the movie (and my second favorite Shakespearean line) is when Claudio says, 'Friendship is constant in all other things save the office and affairs of love.' (My favorite is from Richard III: 'Should I be tempted by the devil?' 'Aye, if the devil tempts thee to do good.')
- Akiva Moskovitz
What I love most about that scene is that her honest passion does exactly what it is meant to do: spur Benedick (it is no coincidence that there names are similar) to see himself inside her and to act on her behalf allowing her to remain in the role of a woman now safe and allowed to trust. And he becomes more himself and more a man because of her.
- Melanie Reed
'...to see himself inside her...' [coy tittering follows] Seriously, though, it is that scene that not only connects Benedick and Beatrice as a couple (even though they haven't yet finalized it for themselves yet) but it also brings to bear the frustration of women (as I pointed out above) and the willingness of men to weakly betray their friendships to win the approval of a woman with...
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- Akiva Moskovitz
And it's exactly what Claudio had foreshadowed earlier with my favorite line (also written above).
- Akiva Moskovitz
I quote this line all the time: "I was born to speak all mirth and no matter." -- Beatrice (Act II, Scene 1). My only problem with this production is Keanu's scowling.
- Stephen Mack
Branagh is such hit-and-miss when it comes to casting. Denzel Washington? Genius. Keanu Reaves? Not so much. Jack Lemmon? Not a good idea. Billy Crystal? Spot on (although not everyone agrees with me on this).
- Akiva Moskovitz
Akiva, I think that is one way of reading it, though perhaps a heavily sexualized modern day interpretation. I am always careful to go back to earlier critics to check myself to see if my time betrays me on this. So here is a Shakespeare critic, Gareth Lloyd Evans from his book "The Upstart Crow" (love the title) (1982): "Here the true spirit of Beatrice is revealed - a woman of great...
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- Melanie Reed
Perhaps I wasn't clear: I wasn't questioning Beatrice's motivations at all—which I believe to be virtually pure—but Benedick's.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Gotcha. (noted) And I really love the man that Benedick becomes! He wins my heart. :)
- Melanie Reed
In other words, Benedick's heart is in the right place but what he's willing to sacrifice to win Beatrice's respect (and thus her heart) is what I find questionable. Ultimately, though, as you point out, it is what he is willing to do that makes him into what he becomes.
- Akiva Moskovitz
"Shirley Manson and Elijah Wood are the slightly odd pairing of Oliver People’s 2010 Eyewear campaign. Not necessarily the conventional way to go but convention is boring. The resulting photos show that this pair totally work together. I just love these photos, which were shot by photographer Autumn De Wilde. Shirley Manson is a beautiful woman (and supercool to boot). Elijah Wood is working it too - he makes a surprisingly good male model but lets face it, like all male models, he is a mere accessory in this campaign - Shirely is the star."
- RAPatton
from Bookmarklet
'This is what Oliver People’s website say about the upcoming campaign: We are happy to share the initial imagery of our 2010 Campaign, to be launched on the Oliver Peoples website in November! After the beautiful job she did for the current season, we were excited to reunite with stellar photographer AUTUMN DE WILDE. Providing personality and a face to the frames is Scottish singing...
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- RAPatton
There are those among us who would consider my post about making caramels http://friendfeed.com/k8s... fluff - not something of educational worth. However, making caramel is a delectable chemistry experiment you can do at home. Want to know why the color changes from a light cream to that brownish tone we associate with caramels?