To be fair, the one on the left is taken with full makeup on, professional hairstyle and from a flattering angle...the one on the right? Not so much.
- Alex Scoble
To be honest the one on the right looks like it was taken after Mike Tyson gave her a black eye and a blind person did her make-up.
- Nicholas Kreidberg
To be honest she looks like my deceased Grandmum.
- Faraz Mullick
ahhhhhh the hollywood glamour life ... partys , limos , many people giving you anything and everything you desire ,,,,
- johnpiercy
Lindsay Lohan the best anti-cocaine PSA there is! :)
- Bryan Lee
"This should be a must listen to show for any up and comer in the video production industry who is looking towards a new media model for doing business."
- Jeremy Campbell
I agree with you on this. Been playing with it in the dev preview and now in the released version and until I get people I know on there and reasons to discuss or collaborate then I don't see the value. The concept is excellent, the execution is excellent, I just don't think the product is what people are expecting.
- Keith Bennett
When I first saw the release video of Wave it was clear this wasn't something that would be for you to invite all your friends to. I'm surprised at your harsh review in such a fast manner -- you opened it up to the world of your "friends" to play in the sandbox -- but did you actually have a mission? You actually point out that this has great potential for group work. It's about...
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- Elaine Young, Ph.D
Writing off Wave at this point is a bit like walking into a hardware store, picking up a hammer, walking around the store looking for stuff to hit and declaring "Why would I ever want a hammer? This is a waste of time." For teams and workgroups looking to improve the way they communicate and collaborate, Wave might be a great tool. For others, not so much.
- Ken Sheppardson
Elaine: you are hoping for something more in depth? Come back in a month after things settle out and developers ship some real tools for it. Welcome to our real time world. Why do you assume that normal people will give ANY tool more than an hour before they decide whether it sucks or not?
- Robert Scoble
The amount of hype this thing got will NOT be realized by a collaboration scenario. I had this years ago with Ray Ozzie's tools. Geesh.
- Robert Scoble
Oh, I'm not arguing that it's over-hyped. That's the nature of the real time social media hype echo chamber we live in these days. :-) That's not to say it isn't a cool tool. BTW, I really miss Groove. :-(
- Ken Sheppardson
I won't believe for a second that Google created Wave to be anything less than an entrance into competition with Facebook for mass users. Google does one thing very well for mass usage, Search. The other things are great tools and have a base, but this was a Social Networking play, disguised as a collaboration tool. I think Robert is right, this is NEVER going to match the hype.
- Patrick Boegel
I think you're absolutely right, Robert. I got my invite, all excited, signed up, added a friend, and.... *fizzle*... it's chat, it's IM, it's a bad twitter client... I hope it will evolve into something worthwhile.
- Jan Ole Peek
I always understood wave as the next evolution of xmpp - something google envisaged when they first got their hands on jabber. Something distributed merging the features of instant messaging, forum and newsgroup. It was not aimed at twitter or facebook, it was more aimed at some of the live features of Notes and Groupwise and forums. PS: the hype it got is the same as every time google...
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- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
I've been a wavesandbox user for months and today I got both my wave invite and as it just so happens I also got my threadsy invite. Suffice to say I'm much more excited about threadsy! Why? because it's actually helpful.
- Bob Stewart
It's clearly not a 1:1 replacement for email and its early yet. This platform is made for customization. As soon as the development community catches up with concern/demand then I think Wave will be far more refined and valuable as a productivity tool. I think it's way too early to say its overhyped but it certainly makes for a great blog title :) Have a great time out in HMB with Chase today.
- Jim Goldstein
How about that, you're absolutely right Robert.
- Peter Kruit
I think I mentioned a month ago that people were going to be overwhelmed by this and it may be too soon to launch to the public.
- Jesse Stay
This is one of those times where I'm happy to let the gang of 2000 beat it up before getting in.
- Stuart Miniman
You are in the gang of 2000. Sorry, Stu.
- Louis Gray
Imagine a Twitter network with five people on it, none of whom actually work on any of the same projects you need to finish this week.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Am I the only one who has been puzzled when people started saying "this is gonna be the new facebook/twitter"? I watched the whole 1.5 hour demo video and that thought never crossed my mind, nor did using it with dozens upon dozens of people at a time. The only things I saw them demo was a variety of tasks between a handful of friends or colleagues. Robert's right, when you've got a ton...
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- brendan
I collaborate with others to actually do things. Yes, Wave is young, but damn! I see its potential and I declare it awesome.
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
Google Wave passes the twitter test. Lots of folks didn't get twitter (and still don't) when it first appeared. GW will follow a similar trajectory..geek early adoption and later mass adoption. I like it that people don't quite get GW which means that people will use it in multiple ways, as they do twitter. I project that it will live up to the hype much like the iPhone.
- Jim Posner
Or it'll follow the FriendFeed curve: a few geeks will get it, use it, become dedicated to it, it'll never see mass adoption, then the engineers will get recruited to work on other projects and the technology will just get folded into other systems...
- Ken Sheppardson
My understanding is the intent was to re-invent email. So I see the gmail population eventually ending up on GW. Google as a rule has had few bombs. Certainly the GW platform will evolve (filters) to address some of the concerns Robert has.
- Jim Posner
interesting review, i will have to check it out for myself! twitter(at)locspoc
- Loc
Can't wait to see how the users evolve ways of using it that help to moderate the wave. Appreciate the fact that Robert and others (some of you) are sharing this experience and these diverse reactions.
- Holly Rae
Agreed, Scoble. I don't see this as a good friendfeed replacement anymore.
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
There is Etherpad and Zenbe ShareFlow. I would wait and see how GoogleWave evolves.
- Wins Fern
Nice to see you present some critical thoughts on this, and I must say that your comments seem very sensible! I would also like to point to services like Etherpad when it comes to real-time collaboration on documents, and I also think there seems to be (potentially) a lot of noise in Google Wave. It will be interesting to see though :-)
- Reidar
I got my Twestival Toronto tickets, look forward to the yacht tour and old Hollywood theme. What a great event for a great cause.
- Jeremy Campbell
from twhirl
SQUEE!!! I enjoyed the interview and managed to not sneeze and snot myself for almost a full half hour. That's a good sign, right? =D
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
That's terrific! You'll do great tomorrow, I'm sure!
- Mark "DerBingle" J
I'm excited, but my to-do list has suddenly grown. Need to go to the store for pantyhose, OJ, and hand sanitizer. Don't want to infect the hiring manager... Also on the list: remove cat hair from suit, iron shirt.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
That is what my wife does for her work:) Hope you get this. Is it something you did before?
- orionstarr
from iPhone
Yes, the job before my most recent. I enjoy it and I'm good at it, so I'm looking forward to tomorrow. Well, assuming I can clear my nose enough to sleep well tonight...
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Congrats for today, good luck for tomorrow
- Sarah Slaven
AWESOME! So glad it went well! Now for those pantyhose... :-D [Also: I was so glad to hear that I'm not the only one who has a drawer full of pantyhose with runs in them!]
- Ladybug Heather
at least i do see them here.. i probably wouldn't otherwise apart from that aggregator site you link out time from time.. then i just see if you've fave'd one of mine.. which i dont think you have yet.. :P
- Tyson
Not me, I would prefer that you used FF more ;). (But I do look at them occasionally)
- Travis Koger
Louis: why not? They often are the same as stuff you've liked in Google Reader except mine are usually faster.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
@Robert, I often use them as a hb to go somewhere. I may not engage upon return, but they do provide me value
- Alexander van Elsas
I do prefer a like on FF.. dont know if theres that much exciting stuff coming out of twitter thats not already here..
- Tyson
I can visit your fav tweets if I want,but right now there is not a single way to add fav tweet to rss reader since there is no rss feed there.But tweets do have.
- Steve Chou
Robert, I understand the analogy and I know what you are trying to do. But to me, a Google Reader share is a share of the content directly, while a tweet is essentially a share of a share.
- Louis Gray
Robert, I understand that - and I have nothing against you favoriting my stuff, like I don't ask folks to stop RTing my stuff, even though I don't RT.
- Louis Gray
Louis: I disagree and often the Tweet says more than the blog's headline.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
But so far I am becoming more convinced this form doesn't fit into FriendFeed.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Essentially, I see the practice of favoriting tweets as your trying to substitute the hard work you did with creating a searchable likes and comments database in FriendFeed. With the acquisition making people wary, yourself included, you're looking to recreate the experience.
- Louis Gray
Man, one or two of your twitter favorites are normal.. not annoyed and not hard to track :)
- FFTornado
I do not believe that Facebook's acquisition of Friendfeed makes Twitter more alluring. I recognize your trimming of your list has made it more valuable for you, but the many issues that were there before remain.
- Louis Gray
Louis: yeah, I am playing around. Most of what I was liking here in FriendFeed was Tweets anyway.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Which is why I say I get you and understand you 100%, even if I am not a fan of this experiment.
- Louis Gray
The thing is a lot more people I want to track are on Twitter and now that I have hand followed over there I see I would be missing a lot if I kept doing only FriendFeed.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Robert: You see,your tweet favs didn't get much likes below as your other stuff,plus its almost full of your profile page.
- Steve Chou
I figured this would be a good way to bring new good stuff into FriendFeed but it doesn't look like many are getting anything out of it.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
i think its also because they come in in herds. Unfortunately they're not real time, so they come in in batches of 10 at a time. Also, I think most Twitterers would prefer it if you retweeted, they get more recognition that way. I'm happy with whatever though really.
- Zee.
Perhaps you need a feed of your favs that at least 10 other people have faved too. ;-)
- Tim
Zee: I can't do that many RT's though. It sucks that Twitter is so bad for sharing.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Robert, I actually think you should gather it someplace else, like a webpage in your blog or something (cause Twitter has problem from time to time and it's hard to see all of your saved tweets). Your favorite list on twitter is basically one of my news source. (the other one is my own twitterstream)
- Orli Yakuel
@Robert yeah, i get what you're saying for sure
- Zee.
@robert Dont use Twitter as much for aggregation. I use ff more;-)
- Alexander van Elsas
Robert, please keep doing everything on FF that you are - I get tremendous value from it and try my best to pass it along. I watch what you do here very closely.
- Marshall Kirkpatrick
Robert Scoble = "big mouth strikes again" ..............and i LOVE your 'mouth'
- martin
I'm with you Marshall, would just prefer that FF is the hub rather than twitter!
- Travis Koger
Robert the information you send to FF has been filtered many times and hence only really useful information ends up here. By importing your TW favs they are highly credible from you but not like the actual Tweets that you have read and personally liked etc for a new person on the block like me your info is great
- Ian Wright
from BuddyFeed
*hide* isn’t working yet for single rss-sources? ouch.
- kosmar
I appreciate it. Actually, I learned a few interesting things via your Twitter favs that I would have missed otherwise.
- Sebastian
there is always hide option, and occasionally they seem to be quite useful. so keep doing it please. and thanks for asking, i wish moreelses did that...
- Özgür D. Cyric
Please do keeping importing them here. Much easier to browse and search.
- Antonella Stellacci
Please keep at it! It save me at least a couple hours out of my own personal time to chase for the good stuff and I can't invest that time every day.
- Marco ILLESCAS
I like it but please "like" it if on FF and only favorite it if they're only on Twitter. I prefer not to have double content.
- Jesse Stay
from iPhone
I always RT my twitter favorites by bringing in my favorites' RSS feed into Yahoo Pipes and append "RT @" to the front and then post it in Friendfeed for Retweeting. You can clone my pipe if you want. http://pipes.yahoo.com/pipes...
- Bryan Lee
What about making a separate group in FF for your twitter favorites.
- Bryan Lee
There's a lot of @xyz stuff in your Twitter import which is often not too interesting. If addressing one person, maybe contact them directly?
- Tim Tyler
Yes I do. I'm getting tired of twitters limits and issues.
- Captain Jack
yes - it's another RSS backup, that also is searchable. i find so much more info in Friendfeed than searching Twitter :-)
- Courtney Engle
Interesting answers-I was pondering doing the same thing today. Keep 'em.
- Harold Cabezas
Hmmm, just because I think it's silly to celebrate evil URI shorteners you guess that I'm not interested in other --valuable-- stuff that Mashable posts? Weird ...
- Sebastian
No surprise there, I assume their market share will only get bigger from here on out.
- Jeremy Campbell
from twhirl
Sebastian, Yuzri seems to be a spambot of some sort...not mashable.
- Trent Olson
I figured that, hence "weird" + !"you" but "Mashable" ;)
- Sebastian
I got one eventually, no thanks to the high and mighty cookie thief. And yes it was awesome...Although that brake kind of wore down a little fast don't you think? Maybe it was because we had a giant hill by our house so I used it often.
- Joe Pierce
yeah first comment(at article -techcrunch-) sums it all, teens are looking for all that girl-boy thing, and in social networking there is facebook where they get to have their own groups and mostly the age is school level so their activities are limited...not saying that they don't connect with outside world but they have much of the affinity with their school folks...though i am reading the report ;)
- testbeta
The reason they do not is because they go where their friends go. My son is 17 and he much prefers Facebook over Twitter. When you look at it - all his friends are on Facebook
- Rob Cairns
But teens are now the fastest growing user base of Twitter.
- Jeremy Campbell
from twhirl
Hai directeur! Not belated at all, it's today (it's 5:53pm here) -- thanks!
- Jorge Escobar
You guys make me want to learn Japanese. Way overdue anyway. I speak one of the few other agglutinative languages in the world (Hungarian), so might as well learn another.
- Adrian
We're conditioned to react unfavorably to the supposedly conflicting elements in the photograph. If she were a statue, holding a sword while nursing her child, I suspect we'd react differently.
- Christopher Harley
Girls and Guns, and Boobs... how can you go wrong
- Victor Ryden
@Chris, I wouldn't react any differently. What woman would nurse her child while posing with a weapon of any kind (not to mention actually using said weapon)?
- Kenton
If that's so, Kenton, I'd love to be able to spend 10 minutes inside your brain.
- Christopher Harley
um can anyone say abuse? And I'm not talking about the gun. This child is WAY to old to be on a boob, I'm utterly disgusted.
- Kelly W.
Maybe I need you to expand on your idea then Chris, because I don't see the difference between a sword and a gun.
- Kenton
To me, swords are all but ceremonial today. In the past they weren't and if they were being held at the ready it meant defense. The image of a mother, especially a nursing mother, holding a sword would have indicated a society on the brink of complete collapse. At least as an artistic conceit.
- Christopher Harley
To me the striking thing about the photo is that it is a weapon, I wouldn't feel any different if it was an AK-47, a missile launcher, or a switchblade. The incongruity is the same for me.
- Kenton
It could be a weapon. It's doubtful she'd have much luck hunting duck or pheasant with any of the other weapons you mentioned. Trust me, Kenton, the incongruity stems from a temporal disassociation between her role as mother and the degree to which you've allowed her to assert herself as such. Ask yourself; if she were in a nineteenth century oil paining would the elements seem any more harmonious?
- Christopher Harley
Hmmm, Chris, if she were in a cave painting holding a spear it would be incongruous (aside from the fact that "cave women" didn't hunt), but in a 19th century painting holding a sword it isn't? Not for me. I don't care whether she is hunting ducks, people or skeet, a weapon is a weapon and holding it while nursing a child is incongruous in my personal opinion.
- Kenton
@mark - surely you can tell the difference between the 2 photos
- chrisofspades
My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard, I could teach you, but I have to charge
- sofarsoShawn
I can't really look away from this picture. It's quite fascinating on a lot of levels.
- Jon, the Chilled Beartato
is this a documentary photograph? I don't think so. It reads like a statement photograph, staged and therefore not especially outrageous... like a lame Benneton ad or something. Feels like someone is desperately trying to be artsy or controversial. I don't take it at face value.
- JoEllen
@Christopher - I disagree. I think the whole thing is staged, the outfit, the gaze of the shirtless child, the location, the gun. Lantern, gun, 3 month old or 2 year old - it's all done purposely, which is what someone taking/directing the photo would do. The age of the child and the action/prop don't provoke me at all, I just think they were chosen to make a statement.
- JoEllen
The breastfeeding isn't a big deal, it certainly isn't "abuse" or wrong" like some think. But I don't like guns being around young children. Even in staged photos. Just my personal issue.
- Summer
Not for me yet :) - I think this has a lot to do with the people who read lifehacker and the type of user they likely are. I am very much a geek but have stuck with Apple's mail b/c I use the same machine all the time (work+personal) so it's less of an issue.
- Mike Bracco
I use outlook for my Y! and gmail accounts.
- David Cook
from fftogo
Not surprising especially considering Lifehacker's audience. To be fair GMail accounts for just over 10% of webmail users. Yahoo is still the king of webmail. http://weblogs.hitwise.com/us-heat...
- Adi
I only use gmail via my cellphone since it has push, otherwise, thunderbird on the desktop, tho, when I need to find an old email, it's right back to gmail for search.
- Richard Lawler
I've been using Gmail since it came out and never looked back. I'm just so sore we can't have our work email online. Flacid #NHS data security FTL :(
- CannonGod
No way. I'm a mail hog and will always want to be able to access/review mail even when I'm offline. Hate the delay scrolling mail when I want to get to something a couple of months ago
- Rick Emery
from twhirl
@Rick scrolling mail? But with gmal there's no need for that - a quick search and you're there
- Zee.
Yup, I would NEVER switch but as IT guy I keep walking into people who have never used a desktop mail client... times are changing!
- Gerard van Schip
Gerard, u would never change from desktop?
- Zee.
from iPhone
I use Outlook (full version) at work to access our Exchange-based E-mail. It blows away any webmail experience I've tried. My personal E-mail is GMail, which has a not-so-hot IMAP interface, so I don't try to use a desktop client for GMail. However, my GMail needs are like 1% of my work needs when it comes to E-mail, since personal is much more things like IM these days rather than E-mail.
- Christopher A. Wichura
I use Outlook at work (desktop) because they force us to. We have the web version of Outlook, but to get the optimal experience I have to use IE (blech) or IE tab (also blech). For personal mail, it's all Gmail, all the time for me.
- cecily
I still use a desktop client. I work mainly on my laptop and it's very important to have offline access to email. I don't have access to wifi everywhere I might need to get into my email.
- Vaughn
If I could get all my old mail [lots of mail] out of entourage into my recent gmail apps account then I would exclusively use the gmail apps. When I think about it, I'm rarely offline. Horses for courses I guess.
- 1x29
You can connect to gmail with IMAP. Create another account in Entourage and drag all the email over from one account to the other. That's what I did in Thunderbird to copy stuff from my IMAP server. I tried doing this in Evolution, but Evolution blows any kind of mass email management.
- Andy Bakun
At home I stopped using Thunderbird about 5 months ago and never looked back. At work I use outlook, but also use NEO Pro to make it "usable"... http://www.caelo.com/
- Vince DeGeorge
Outlook is horrible, Gmail runs circles around it, it is a crime that Microsoft actually charges money for Outlook.
- Kelly Johns
google fails miserably on a coupe of fronts... good examples? contact management and calendars, for starters. I use it for personal mail but I really don't see it supplanting outlook in businesses who actually use outlook for its strengths until stuff like that is improved drastically. I still hate troutlook though :)
- mjc
Personal preferences cannot be “confirmed,” and needs vary among users. I swap between desktop and web email when the time calls for it. Web is certainly convenient, but desktop is quite a bit more powerful. I cannot easily select 20 random photos from iPhoto or Windows Explorer and have web-friendly copies automatically created and attached to a Gmail message. But I *can* do that with...
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- David Chartier
I'm a programmer, a sysadmin, and an office IT guy, and I switched my domain over to gmail a few months ago. As for off-line access, gmail can go off-line if you install Google Gears.
- Andy Bakun
83% of statistics are made up on the spot
- Bwana ☠
I use Apple's Mail client for most of my mail purposes, but I will go to my browser as well. Though, in all honesty, my primary means of handling email are through my iPhone.
- Mike Nayyar
Attention grabbing headline for sure, but LH readers are not your average Joe. Nevertheless, the shift to web-based email among non-enterprise users is quite apparent, if you see how Thunderbird has lost its shine!
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
I agree totally. In the past year I have switched entirely to web based. Love it.
- Drew Lucas
I used to use a desktop client on my junkbox, a few years ago, and ended up removing about 300MB of mail from my GMail account since I'd configured GMail to automatically remove stuff after retrieving it via POP3. Now, I just use the GMail web UI, for what it's worth. Sadly I've lost all that mail, after reinstalling numerous OSes on the said machine, but it's not a big deal. :(
- Tyson Key
I use Mailplane so which one am I? Desktop or web?
- Parvez Halim
The reason for this is portability and flexibility. Personally I use both but the big reason I use a desktop client is to offload mail I want to keep on to my pc.
- Rob Cairns
From reading through this thread and personal experience, one of the main reasons users are still attached to their desktop clients is for offline access. But, as many of the more knowledgeable readers know, Google, Yahoo!, and others are looking to make this offline access possible from your web browser. Google has implemented and tested Gears with several products including Gmail....
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- Kevin Mohr
I recently switched over to Gmail's web-based email and I'm not looking back. Webmail FTW!
- Amir
I would use gmail...but I run many different web sites from which I need to email customers/site visitors. Gmail won't allow me to send email from a POP3 account without saying "on behalf of <my gmail account name>" in the from field. This isn't acceptable for how I run my different businesses and websites. Anyone know when Google is going to fix this?
- Justin
Justin: I got over this by managing my email with google apps. I'm not suggesting its working out perfectly but it does operate my emails as per the domain not 'on behalf of'.
- 1x29
@Adrian, thanks for the tip. Haven't done anything with google apps to date. Will look into it.
- Justin
I've recently made the switch to Gmail too. Really enjoying the filters and labels, and built in Google Talk. Not looking back yet :-)
- Jalada
"google fails miserably on a coupe of fronts... contact management and calendars, for starters." - Exactly. If "Outlook" = "Email and nothing else," you don't need Outlook. Comparing GMail to Outlook is incorrect - compare Outlook to Gmail, Gmail Contacts, GMail tasks, Google Calendar, etc. I use Outlook on my Google Apps domain email, but Gmail's Contacts leave a lot to be desired.
- John Craft
I still use Windows Mail at the moment only because I have it set up exactly how I want it - this could change in the future
- outofmyarse
Okay, but I still prefer a dedicated IMAP server. 'Control', less bandwith usage.. and it's IMAP ;)
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
@hannah: You can route multiple email addresses through Gmail.
- CannonGod
I think Gmail only supports retrieval of other addresses via POP
- Jalada
from IM
Yes, even Hotmail. I use it for that, as a matter of fact
- LANjackal
from IM
"Developers are finally getting their hands on the developer preview of Google’s Wave, which means we can finally get some first-hand accounts of what it’s really like to use, unfiltered by Google’s own programmers. Wave, demonstrated by Google at its I/O developer conference in May of this year, allows customers to create a customizable communications and collaboration tool without any software other than an Internet browser. As such, Wave poses a significant threat to the business models of Microsoft and other applications vendors. Ben Rometsch, a developer with U.K. Web development firm Solid State, blogged that, it’s “probably the most advanced ‘application in a browser’ that I’ve seen.”"
- Arnaldo M Pereira
from Bookmarklet
Great article. I was on the fence with Google Wave, but after reading this, it's starting to look more interesting. I originally thought of it was a 21st century AOL client (being so boxed in), but it's clearly more than that. I'm eagerly awaiting my beta copy.
- Marc Ferguson
Arnaldo you are right. It's be something new and fresh. At least for me. :) I can't wait to see how it's work.
- Damir Zubović
I guess I'm anxious because I want to check how far they've went with GWT. Besides all the supposedly cool stuff.
- Arnaldo M Pereira
Twitter has already forced many of us to reallocate our time, I'm sure Wave will do the same as well. But there are only 24 hours in a day, so something has to give!
- Jeremy Campbell
from twhirl
Google Wave, in the article, sounds as if it's a long way off and could be a few years before any of the public get their hands on it - I hope, for Google's sake, that they get it right first time because at the moment, it sounds awesome
- outofmyarse
@Roger, I agree with you. For a BLACK one-piece, that is pretty frickin' hot.
- Carloe Stamp
I prefer the turquoise myself, but daaaaaaaamn... I just looked at the price tag! For $300, it had better come with the personal trainer it'll take to wear it properly.
- Roger Benningfield
Jess, one pieces are classy. And you'd get a lot of attention in this one :)
- Rob Schonberger
Might as well advertise "All wrapped up & ready to be unwrapped" ;-))
- ianf ⌘
This is an excellent example of how sexy works. It's all about how likely a revealing accident is or how easy the outfit looks like it could come off and not about how much skin is shown. Even a burqua could be made sexy in this fashion.
- Wirehead
yeah, i just needed to revisit this thread and say this is both elegant and fucking hot (sorry for the expletive, but that's just how hot i think it is)
- Cee Bee
Am I the only one who finds it humorous that this thread started out with informed fashion advice like the original poster asked for and has degraded into sexual innuendo during the course of the day? Is this reflective of the FF community's mood as the day progresses or just the inevitable conclusion of any post of bikini photos from a woman?
- Bill Strathearn
Not having read the other comments, wouldn't this be atrocious to get on? I have a hard enough time with my tankini top, and that's just 2 crossed strings!
- Heather
Bill, the second comment referenced bondage...
- Andrew C
um....um....um.....OH THE SUIT! Yep, definite buy.
- Joel Robert Perez
It can't be /that/ hard to get into. Topologically, can't you just treat it like a regular one-piece?
- Andrew C
I love all the guys opining on how to get in and out of this bathing suit. GUFFAW.
- Derrick
The theory is sound. =) Edit: I mean, I've gotten into snow suits before, which are topologically equivalent. =)
- Andrew C
I'm happy to offer a contrastingly unfashionable / unsexy comment. Holy crapola$ batwoman, I know what industry I'm getting into if I ever leave Google. Cost of material:18 cents. Cost of labor from, say, Thailand or Bangaladesh: 6 cents. Price some women (or their sig-o's) will pay for it: $300. Profit margin: Priceless.
- Adam Lasnik
なんというか、ちょっと倒錯的な目で見るとエロいかも。具体的には、縄で締め付けられる女性の背中にエロスを感じるような目で。
- Sakurai.Catshop
from fftogo
Changing my answer to No... it's not worth $280...
- Bindu Reddy
I know a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy who could get it for you for cheaper!!!
- Amani
It's very original and I love that so yes you should buy it.
- Jeremy Campbell
from twhirl
very shibari from the back, kind of plain from the front. huh.
- David
David - so it's the swimsuit reverse mullet!
- Andrew C
Ok, I might be revealing too much, but this design reminds me of something Diana Eng designed on Project Runway. (I watched Project Runway? I just lost -10 man points. :) )
- Ray Cromwell
You can, but if you do, I'll tell Jesus. Naa. Go ahead. He or she has got enough to worry about.
- david beckwith
"I agree that the viewer's appetite for longer form video online is becoming a reality, and producers will move in that direction to comply with that consumption trend."
- Jeremy Campbell
Not at all. I use it to check out artists. They may have lost the social war, but they're still way ahead of Facebook in terms of music/artist presence
- LANjackal
I use Ping.fm to update statuses over there. And, I check in with my younger cousins ... but it's been a while since I've logged in.
- Ivan
I go to Myspace for my glitter text fix.
- Kelley Hood
that would be correct. I think most normal folks have moved to facebook, but i think a lot of the musicians and such are still there
- Zach Scott
Pretty much. I only go there to keep up with bands, and the occasional celebrity or comedian. None of my friends or family use it anymore.
- Uilleam Hawke
Never used MySpace, and I think I'm a better person for it.
- Jason Huebel
from iPhone
Danah Boyd just revisited an earlier essay on a socio-economic Facebook-MySpace hypothesis: http://www.zephoria.org/thought... (then click "The Not-So-Hidden Politics of Class Online" link)
- Micah Wittman
this thread gets more interesting by the minute. Glitter text - nice one, you forgot angels and fairies!
- Chris Sparno
In fairness, I believe the Hannah Montana fan club is pretty entrenched in MySpace with no plans to migrate to Facebook (or FriendFeed).
- Chris Sparno
I'm assuming everyone who posted their link here would like to connect on Facebook? (I'm not a facebook fan, but was just wondering if FriendFeeders want to befriend on Facebook too).
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
I was saddled with http://www.facebook.com/JDPierc... because everything else was taken..well not true. /LordAlfredHayesJr was in fact available, but I went with something slightly truer.
- Joe Pierce
http://www.facebook.com/cains I'm not proud to admit that I actually set my alarm to wake me up at 5am so I could get that name, even though I never actually use facebook.
- Steven Cains
I just stuck with /waltruppar, but my Pug Marley is: http//facebook.com/FreelanceG33k I really wish pages didn't need 1000+ fans b4 being able to snag a name. Maybe they will wave this in the future after things calm down and allow pages in place prior to 31-May to get a name....
- Walt Ruppar
Walt: The 1000 user limit will be lifted on June 28, then we get another free-for-all
- Ken Sheppardson
boring but works: facebook.com/richardgoodwin . If I'd have known how easy it was to grab them I would have tried for something more original
- Richard Goodwin
from twhirl
http://www.facebook.com/matthew... - This is in effect the same as filling out a change of address card at the post office, but people are acting like it's a bikini party with a pony and a pinata.
- Matthew DeVries
I DON'T HAVE ONE!!!!!! "tamar" was unavailable but there's no page pointing to it! And um, we DID have someone check in at 12:01:01 AM! I am royally angry. btw, zee, gonna be really hard to get "zee" given the 5 char minimum - get to know someone working at FB and you may get lucky. (I've been trying to get tamar@gmail.com but the minimum character count is 6 and my Google contacts couldn't help..)
- Tamar Weinberg
mmm contacts :-) i hope you both get what you like
- Majento