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Yeahmazing! This has never been happen before on Twitter. My chance for 1.000.000 dollar! http://yeahmazing.com #yeahmazing
Scam? No fineprint/legalese on site. Sweepstakes are not valid in every region. I wonder.
- Ray Cromwell
Yes, agree. But still, you never know.
- Jeremy Chone
Cloud Portability: Force.com vs Google App Engine vs Amazon http://www.bitsandbuzz.com/article...
AppEngine supports both JDO and JPA. GAE launched showed app running in WebSphere/RDBMS and AppEngine
- Ray Cromwell
Also, you can do cascade-delete in JDO with jdoPreDelete() override
- Ray Cromwell
Tx Ray for the cascade-delete clarification. I still think that AppEngine need to support Hibernate/EJB3.0/DB. I do not see Enterprise developers moving to JDO (IMO).
- Jeremy Chone
btw, the jdoPreDelete() is not really a delete-cascade. You have to know which object to delete.
- Jeremy Chone
Actually, you are right, AppEngine does support a subset of JPA.
- Jeremy Chone
Cool stuff >> Teenager invents £23 solar panel made from human hair >> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/science...
Seems like a hoax to me.
- Ray Cromwell
Damn, you might be right. I always fall for these kind of things.
- Jeremy Chone
@cromwellian The tool argument is where I disagree. Today, outside of Video, Games, and ads, 95% of the web is pure HTML.
Don't understand what it has to do with with SVG/Canvas/<Video> vs Flash. Authoring anim is hard w/o tools.
- Ray Cromwell
Agree, just saying that most Web Application do not need very advanced animation. And even when they do, they tend to be coded in code (i.e. Flex)
- Jeremy Chone
Probably one of the best prank ever : YouTube - Guys caught beaming on Bijlmer prison http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Fake. Projector with such a tight, bright image 100+ft away, large angle with no perspective distortion?
- Ray Cromwell
Yes, this is what lot of people are saying. However, the camera is moving a lot and the projection does not move. This would be pretty hard to do, no?
- Jeremy Chone
Note with Adobe Aftereffects and image tracking. :)
- Ray Cromwell
MyYahoo! is down. It has been unreliable for the last month or so... moving to iGoogle. Pity, I preferred the L&F of MyYahoo over iGoogle.
Try Netvibes.
- Stephan Osmont
I might, iGoogle RSS widget is awful. Not post date; big "+" icon; title not really readable.
- Jeremy Chone
This is just crazy > Armed men seen outside Barack Obama but no crimes were committed, and no one was arrested http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news...
"outside Barack Obama" ??
- Stephan Osmont
outside Barack Obama event
- Jeremy Chone
This is unbelievable. Something is clearly wrong in this country.
- Stephan Osmont
Techcrunch.com vs Engadget.com | Compete http://siteanalytics.compete.com/techcru...
Yeah, but compare the CPM/CPCs. I doubt TC generates leads to sell Plasma TVs, Camcorders, and Digital SLRs. :)
- Ray Cromwell
True, but I am sure TC get a nice premium from their sponsors.
- Jeremy Chone
WebGuild gets the wrong numbers >> Why Facebook Paid $5 M For Friendfeed http://www.webguild.org/2009...
Considering FF got $5 million investment (probably on valuation of $30-50M), that would be crazy low!
- Ray Cromwell
Yes, I think the right number was around $50M, as many other websites reported, but somehow WebGuild is not rectifying it?
- Jeremy Chone
I am relatively skeptical about RockMelt. With Chrome, FF, and Safari, not sure how Marca will change the landscape http://mashable.com/2009...
I don't understand why it just can't be a plugin for FF/Chrome/IE/etc. A whole browser just for FB Connect?
- Ray Cromwell
Yes, it's the whole Flock argument yet again. New browser vs Extension. Anyway, one thing for sure is that Marca is the right guy to maximize the buzz, now, I am very anxious to see the bits.
- Jeremy Chone
YouTube - Hillary Clinton loses her temper in Congo http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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She did not lose her temper, she just replied firmly to a stupid question.
- Stephan Osmont
Agree, the question was stupid and extremely insulting. But as a world leader, she could have smooth it out.
- Jeremy Chone
New blog post: you are SO unfollowed! http://scobleizer.com/2009... I'll follow on FriendFeed anyone who comments here:
Ozer Wrzl (EN), Jens Christian Freund, Harold Cabezas and 157 other people liked this
Follow me!
- TheHenry
TheHenry: I already am! :-)
- Robert Scoble
Please don't unfollow me!! :)
- Carlo Nasuti
Very interesting approach Robert. If it is working for you that is awesome though. Hope all is well. Give Roc a big hug for me.
- C.C. Chapman
Yo...
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
Not too much unfollowing please.
- Tim
i'm in
- Tai Hsia
Can you follow me?
- Giorgio
ok I'll allow you
- Derry O Donnell
What's going on here?
- Andru Edwards
I think you're already following me Robert.
- Andrew Leahey
well ok )
- Denverken
Lead, follow, or get out of the way.
- Robert Kenney
[comments here]
- Nick Humphries
I will comment here! :)
- John Ptacek
Great blog appreciate all of your "likes" that I would not have noticed before. Thanks for all the time you spend educating us.
- Gary Prechtel
auto-follow always seemed like a bad idea. people can always msg you but your stream will get totally cluttered if you dont do a little bit of housekeeping.
- William Kapes
"baby I'm a star" -Prince (off purple rain)
- Michael J. Carrasquillo
novel approach, seems sound
- Danny Ayers
Consider me available for following. :-)
- Eric D. Wilson
Okay, I'll bite..
- Tanya
Bring it Scobleizer.
- Todd Pringle
I agree, Twitter is much better this way.
- Ryan W
I appreciate your work, and your passion for social media.
- Evan Travers
sounds simple...
- Mateo Yadarola
Scoble follow me baby
- Jadito
Oh you are getting quite a response here!!!! I'm commenting so you'll follow me but the thing is you're going to LIKE following me because you'll learn all about Sedona through tons of videos and you'll love it so much you'll want to pack your camera and head out here! =)
- SedonaTV
Thanks for the mentions, Robert (and you know I'm not commenting just for the follow - I just like to follow you, which is what counts!)
- Jesse Stay
Actually Robert, now I've seen you've tidied up your twitter, I'll probably follow you there again too. :-)
- Tim
hey follow me scoble
- Andy Jenks
joining the crowd - good move Robert.
- Adam
Meh, who cares really, not like you read everyone you followed. Plus unfollowed you anyways, not like you have to say that's interestined except friendfeed spam.
- Steve
follow me
- Tai Hsia
welcome to Boulder
- Andrew Hyde
@scobleizer just created the most important tech follow list on Twitter.
- Christian Anderson
aww shucks, and here I was thinking it was just me who you unfollowed.
- Jess Sloss
I underwent the same situation, Robert - I unfollowed almost everybody on Twitter who duplicated their accounts here on FrF. I got a tempest of fury for this action. web3 is too personal still ))
- massagin
Scoble in Boulder = Trouble.
- Jim Halligan @jim
I feel fortunate that you're still subbed to me on FF. I haven't even noticed whether you unfollowed me on Twitter. But you following me, still hasn't gotten me the chicks. :P Always fun seeing your posts, long as you don't block me, it doesn't matter if you follow me or not. :)
- Arlan Koizumi
I did the same thing some weeks ago after avoiding twitter because it got too noisy. It was instantly better. But in the mean time I started to use FF more and I like it better here so I hardly go near twitter now.
- Murray Barton
You already follow me here on ff, which i use more than twitter.
- dthree
What's up?
- Kevin Whalen
from iPhone
Hey Robert, so for following >1,600 is it that right way taken by Philtro and Filttr?
- Martin Adamek
I'm glad you mentioned Loic, he caught a lot of flack for doing this earlier.
- Steven Cains
Hey Robert - fight the tweetspam !
- Michael Neale
Don't think you are following me on Twitter anymore..please do and best regards
- Karma Martell
I'm still trying to figure out the following... so I'm watching how you do it scoble.
- Matthew Schrock
Good plan. I'm looking forward to your results. I'm trying to figure out all these social media elements. I would appreciate your Twitter follow.
- David Stanley
hope this new approach works for you!
- timepilot
Oh, so now you are only easy on FF.
- James Watters
Odd internal response, I don't follow everyone who follows me cuz of the very noise you talk about. And, there's no good reason for you to follow me since I'm unlikely to deliver news of interest to you. And yet, here I am, posting on FriendFeed so you have the OPTION of following me, a stranger who is not the same kind of SMART as you. Who'd have thought...
- Della Mauler
Interesting statement about original content value of FF independent of twitter. Twitter is where you keep your noise level down...
- James Watters
This seems like asking for trouble to me, Scoble. But, it's your time and bandwith to do with what you will. Since only a handful of people (by that I think I mean just one) follow me on Twitter, it's pretty easy for me to weed out the bots. The people I follow are my internet nerds (mostly the Rev 3 crew) so I know their interests are in line with mine. Hit me up for some edifying conversations about Lost and video games, Robert.
- Jeremiah Green
Here you go Robert! [also via twitter: @Scobleizer Therefore: only approx. 1.7 million "active" human @Twitter users contribute 50%+ of all activity, right? #engagement] Regards, @AAinslie
- Alexander Ainslie
The green avatar is so disturbing mate. :)
- Jordan Windebank
I'll lead, you follow. So where are we going?
- Tom Sheppard
I was sad to see you unfollowed me, but now you may follow me again, so all will be well in the world.
- Jodi
following the leader...
- John Munro
You're still following me - does that mean I'm a smart feller? ;)
- Brett Kelly
so glad I mail Robert a business card every month :)
- Christian Anderson
Della: the thing is here I can follow you and put you into a list and watch you less frequently than some of my other people. So everyone wins. But only here on FriendFeed. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Some of us have been doing this from our start. Kind of cool, eh? But our numbers don't grow quickly so we were tagged as "slow." Nice to see you catch up with us! Also, this may shock you, there sre folks who follow and communicate with only 3 folks on twitter and they are HAPPY! Imagine....
- lynda spangler
Yay. Now he will follow a librarian.
- Joe
Follow this dot!!! .
- Bwana ☠
I've long thought the entire Twitter "etiquette" of always following who follows you to be a bit of a folly. I'm following 114 at the moment, and the stream still moves too fast for me to keep up with.
- Darren Landrum
Comment!
- anna sauce
ok
- Vasu Srinivasan
Good test, count me in... I don't follow tons of people, I follow a few prolific Scoble-types and the rest are more focused in areas I'm interested in.
- David Ziembicki
I'm not following tons of people, just a select few. More to follow on FB when facebook has completely integrated Friendfeed-funcionality. ;-)
- Wolfgang G. Wettach
I only follow people I know or have something interesting to say, did you really have 160000 people that said something worthwhile???
- Gerard van Schip
Well I commented via your Blog so instead of repeating myself I'll link to comment http://disq.us/1ms9
- Keith - @tsudo
Gerard: everyone says something worthwhile once in a while. The trick is to see it when it happens. Here on FriendFeed, by the way, you have a better shot because good stuff usually gets liked and commented on, so it pulls up higher into my view.
- Robert Scoble
come join us here folks http://ff.im/6dUHN xxx
- Mark
Okay. But will you read and comment on my stuff?
- Mellissa
Robert, I posted this after Loic's decision and it looks like it will need another update. http://www.knowthenetwork.com/blog... I think there is value in stating your follow policy.
- Keith - @tsudo
cool
- Zach Cheatham
Hello?
- Vicky
following all the discussion of you unfollowing everyone on twitter has made me think about doing the same thing and starting fresh.
- (jeff)isageek
not unless we beat you in the Ashes
- Mark
Nice post Robert, and no surprise it's an improvement. ;o) I have seen it for me too.
- Rob Sellen :o)
1 thing I find Robert still worth following @Scobleizer when I am not on friendfeed & on my Hootsuite or PeopleBrowsr. therefore not much affected, not much 2 bother me, ego not gone at all. luv your post Robert it is a frank posting
- polou/indigo_bow
Follow me Robert, I promise I'm not annoying. :) @cluteman
- Greg Clute
from iPhone
You've piqued my curiosity.
- Kathy
Robert, thank you! I follow you and enjoy your "likes" and your energetic takes. I also enjoy your Building43 interviews! I am a constant FriendFeed user now. Thank you!
- Tobin Truog
This made me realise I must be more active on FF and comment/post more :-).
- Mats Pettersson
I think I'll give FriendFeed a go! Never tried it, but looks easy and I need to understand the interwebs better. @CodeSamurai_Com
- CodeSamurai
butt-kissing is not a prerequisite for being followed, he will follow you anyways :D
- Mark
Count me in! (Please??)
- Ricky Maveety
lol @mark. ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
You can follow me, but since you follow a lot of people, you probably can't pay attention to the stream of tweets.
- Alex Knight
Alex..that's the WHOLE point he did this... ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
IMHO 1,647 is still way too many people to follow.
- Alex Knight
I will NOT get baited into ... ah CRAP. I follow very few people on twitter, mainly only to find info from Android developers (my topic of choice). If you mention anything about the food you are currently eating, etc.. you will probably not be followed. If you post 80,000 times a day, you will not be followed, since Twitters interface sucks (not so for FF). Also, no offense to other social users, but if you resend your FF/FB/<insert other social site here> entries to twitter, I probably won't follow.
- Tim Hoeck
http://socialspark.com/blogs... Chris Pirillo is Scum.
- Mark
good move IMO
- Joanna Nicol
Love the post, love the response.
- Chris Rogers
from BuddyFeed
nice hanging out at with beach w/ you last week! follow moi!!!
- Raina Lee
I always feel like scoble's following me
- Rodney J Woodruff
from iPhone
Don't forget your Dunbar number, Scoble! There are only so many people you can have meaningfully connect with online.
- Steve Lynch
from twhirl
Mark is right. No butt kissing. Ew.
- Robert Scoble
"I always feel like, somebody's watching me..."
- Wizetux
Comment!!!! Ohh wait but you already follow me...
- Amit Nangare
Follow me, if you aren't already....please. Thanks,
- Steve de Mena
here is my comment ZOL
- Shane Gibson
Comment? What kind of coomment, Robert? :-)
- Mitch Featherston
Whoop there it is! On Twitter @jimgoldstein
- Jim Goldstein
from iPhone
Oh..Oh... Mr. Kotter...Mr Kotter..follow me!
- Scott Booher
Glad to see you're writing more than 140 characters on that blog. Doesn't that feel liberating? Maybe we should be allowed character# based on your metric for powerful/smart/newsmaker
- Noah Bloom
You already follow me here on FF, for which I thank you. So, I'll just say thanks for the phone call the other day. :)
- Jeff Harbert
I'll take a follow!
- Jeff Weber
@shaunhess
- Shaun Hess
Ok, so follow me again and I will follow you back. Thanks!
- Audrey
Robert - I fail on most of your criteria so I'm not expecting you to follow me. The thing is I don't care if you follow me back - this is social media and everyone has their own choice. I choose to follow you because you entertain and inform me. The relationship is 100% one way and I am more than happy with that!
- Pon
Robert - Last night at GDGT Party the person at the Blackberry booth said: 1) She had 'heard of Twitter, never friend feed' uses neither 2) Is SCOBLE is coming tonight 3) Wow, your Blackberry is really "archaic" and find out when contract lets you upgrade. F-D UP? Booth babes need primers.
- Liza
Interesting theory... people who comment more apt to contribute?
- Mark Philpot
I know someone else who tried this strategy last year, with similar results. I've been debating it. Once I got over 3K followers on Twitter life just got weird. Started to spend X amount of time every day blocking porn spam.
- Patricia F. Anderson
Liza: yeah, sorry for not coming to the party. I went and saw Obama's CTO instead.
- Robert Scoble
Steve Lynch: my Dunbar number is higher than yours is. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Nice summary Robert on the whole Unfollow thing, but would it be too repetitive if I re-post on my FF?
- Keith Rowland
What is the best friend feed aggregation strategy of non-friend streams (eg RSS, twitter, etc)? Imaginary friend per service, then add to lists? Multiple services per imaginary friend or 1 to 1? Or add the services to a group? What are the considerations?
- John Brown
Keith: you can repost anywhere you like, thanks!
- Robert Scoble
I'm in!
- Craig Shipp
still wondering how you are able to handle such a big load of subscribers here and e.g. so many followers with twitter o_0. I am already (sometimes) lost with the few i got till now. Lately with one sweep almost 40 to 50 contacts in twitter disappeard and i have no clue why ... boah, how are you handling the noise? Hell, with so many ppl in, you might have a terrific noise? Or you wear just good headphones ;)?
- Ronald
I very much agree that being choosy is the key to Twitter. I'm not nearly on the scale that you are, but in my experience, freely following people (whetther they follow me or not) and then mercilessly cutting back on them over and over again results in a kind of darwinianly better and better signal to noise ratio.
- Tim Maly
Touche!
- Steve Lynch
from twhirl
Count me in
- Johnny
Hi Robert
- Randy Allen Bishop
Liked the blog post and totally agree. I've been meaning to do something similar. What I do is occasionally prune and then add some "better" replacements, so my total is always 2000 follows.
- Bora Zivkovic
I don't see how anyone can manage so many users without groups. Then again, with groups you could just make an "ignore" group.
- Oscar M. Cantu
from iPhone
Great blog post. I totally agree on the noise level. I figure I have blocked a few hundred accounts on Twitter, and my noise level has dropped dramatically. Thanks for the follow!
- Tony "Frosty" Welch
Hello Hello!
- Sam Goldfield
Robert - I figured you were in DC from FF, but she had NO IDEA what a CTO is. Point is, she was eager to give you a Blackberry, but not me, and I wish I had a Scoble costume to pretend for 5 minutes.
- Liza
@Robert I think you are starting another mass follow again.
- Steve Chou
from fftogo
Steve: that's not the problem. As long as spam doesn't enter the system I can deal. Keep in mind here I can choose how I follow. I can put you all in a folder that I never look at, if I wanted to.
- Robert Scoble
my feelings were hurt that you unsubscribed to me on twitter, but i agree with your methods
- Brian Appleby
I'm in!
- Chris Rossini
Brian, yeah, but I follow you here. So there.
- Robert Scoble
really doesn't matter as long as i can follow you, that's the beauty of these services
- Brian Appleby
How did you come to follow so many to begin with? I get annoyed with ppl and unfollowing is easier than sifting through their garbage constantly.
- R1CC1
Autofollow was a horrible idea to begin with.
- David Chieng
I kind of tired to keep an eye on who follows me now,the ones I'm following is much more important.:-)
- Steve Chou
from fftogo
Whoa lots of comments I'm following you longtime lol
- Edgar Rodríguez
from iPhone
Robert: we need more intelligent spam-follower-filtering on Twitter! We need to fix this.
- Steve Lynch
from twhirl
@David +1 I think auto follow is such a bad idea to begin with,and people like Robert now even need to pay to unfollow these people.
- Steve Chou
from IM
How much did SocialToo charge for running the unfollow script?
- Shane
I'm in!
- rich brant
from iPhone
I heard its 25 dollars.
- Steve Chou
from IM
I've always been very picky in who I follow on twitter. I follow 40 people, and I can't guarantee that I see every single tweet. I don't scroll back usually, unless it's my "Real Life" column in Tweetdeck that couldn't fit on my screen.
- Tom Ribbens
My birthday is also January 18th, therefore you must follow me Robert! ;)
- Chris Luckhardt
from BuddyFeed
Thanks Steve! $25 is pretty reasonable. Wonder if anyone else will be jumping on the bandwagon
- Shane
Haha....I also threw the devil horns for Scobleizer...that should count for something. ;) http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Chris Luckhardt
from BuddyFeed
OK, let's try it! And what about Twitter?
- Alexei Zheglov
Thanks for your post. Last time I checked you follow me here on FriendFeed. OK not to follow me on Twitter.
- Pilgrim Five
Smart way to clean house.
- Jeremy Chone
u have already subscribing me although i am just a-staying-at-home mum =)). thanx scoble. u are really a nice geek. haha!
- zʍıɔ
Let's do it.
- Kate
this is like an awesome commentfest
- Edgar Rodríguez
You can follow me, but I never say anything. Oh.. wait....
- James Macgill
follow me!
- Tate DA FF MVP
from BuddyFeed
Sometimes the tortoise beats the hare after all... building organically based on getting to know people and interactions tends to avoid the ghastly spammers, seo peeps and bots
- Sally Church
Tap, tap... is this thing on?
- Yanik Falardeau
This is the best place to follow you. On twitter you only see post headlines, but friendfeed is where the conversation takes place.
- Michael Fidler
Ah crap. You're already following me :)
- Jason Nunnelley
I'm outside your sphere, but bootstrapping is bootstrapping right?
- Travis Bedard
Tuesday night for the first time in 2 months I UNfollowed everyone on Twitter who wasn't following me. Since you had UNfollowed me, yup I unfollowed you. My Twitter account is so /FUBARed! It only goes to page 506 to show who I'm following and after that it is BLANK! I don't even know if they show in my Home stream. So Robert, I value what you say. Know I can tweet profusely - but it's as @replies to others with the occasional micro-blog thrown in. Question, what DID I do to cause you to UNfollow me?
- Arleen Boyd
I hope you'll follow me...
- Shane Tilton
Follow me, eh?
- Joey Gibson
Trying to fill out those dropped Twitter follows?
- Jamie Elgie
Scoble: Have you convinced Guy Kawasaki against his "follow everyone that follows you" mentality?
- Kevin Pruett
please do what you must to have the most effecient feed mr scoble, the random will still creep through the cracks, ;)
- chaz2b
I still haven't really adopted FriendFeed, but I will get interesting here in time if you follow me.
- Lance M. Brown
How are your cleanup efforts coming along?
- Jennifer Ruggiero
Oops - I also meant to ask, Robert: how are you managing to follow the couple thousand that you are now re-following on Twitter? You must be using groups, I guess...any other methods? I find ~500 people to be a near max in terms of how many folks I can fully read.
- Lance M. Brown
Following your inspiration, I unfollowed almost 100 people last night and blocked about 1000 spammers, cam girls, MLM marketers, and the like. Twitter is more like it was a year ago, its almost like I gave my Twitter account an enema and it worked. Thanks for the original idea.
- Mark Edwards
Excellent!
- Don Strickland
Robert, I started out only following those I know and those I am genuinely interested in. I've only followed back a few of the people who've followed me. I have a second account that I decided to experiment with. I followed about 700 people on there. It has had about double the followers of my main account consistently. I am about to try some new tricks there with an auto-follow script I'm writing but I think I will stay the course with my main account.
- Paul The Raven
Robert, I tried the "follow everyone" (almost) method for a short time - then I'd unfollow about once-a-week. Now I try to schedule a "follow new" once a week. TweetDeck's group feature makes following lots of folks bearable. So does FF, but you've been saying that for-ever!
- Kathy E Gill
I am just taking it slow.
- Rick Cogley
from iPhone
Hey.
- Kreg Steppe
I will follow you if you follow me (Genesis)
- Keith Barrett
I may not be smart, but I'm smart enough to follow you!
- John Pfaff
It occurred to me (and surely to someone before me), that different definitions of "following" might be a big factor here. If I'm following someone, it means I'm following along with their updates. But others might see themselves more as becoming part of a person's "following". Not that they are necessarily reading the person's stuff, but they are willing to be considered part of that person's inflated Twitter posse, as part of the influence-trading aspect of Twitter.
- Lance M. Brown
Robert, I think that the biggest thing that changed is not that you were "wrong" (to follow everyone) before but that the Twitter population has changed so much. A year ago, pretty much everyone on Twitter was real, and interesting - now there's so much automated gaming the system going on that the signal to noise ratio has gotten unbearable. So I think anyone who cares about more than...
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- Matthew Blaisdell
I can't imagine how it would happen technologically, but it would be great if there was a way to ditch followers who weren't actually reading your tweets.
- Lance M. Brown
Enjoyed recent posts and look forward to more from you! Keep it up.
- One Degree Connected
I don't want to be left out please!!
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Your most active followers are on FF. No loss.If you really wanted to make a bold statement you ought to have blocked all of your followers and started from scratch.
- Benjamin Taylor
Been a while since I put you and Shel On the record...Online
- Eric Schwartzman
blah.
- imabonehead
Good article Robert. I honestly enjoyed the perspective. I found the same to be true, but on a much lower scale, of course ;-)
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
i'm in!
- Criz
I don't get it - so now you are using Twitter kinda like a normal person, and its some kind of miracle that it works better?
- Nick Lothian
I'm impressed you can keep up with 1600 people. I have trouble enough with the little amount I have. I did find that making FriendFeed imaginary friends and putting them in groups for those I'd like to read occasionally (but not on a regular basis) has helped a lot
- Tamara
Follow....how about some promotion!
- Bob DeMarco
i'm in
- Joshua Smith
from twhirl
9/11 Was an Inside Job
- bill giltner
Stop it, or I will have to get a restraining order.
- Sriks7
In my mind I'm important enough to follow ;-)
- Jonathan Callahan
Hello Robert....Whatever your favorite genre is...http://listen.grooveshark.com/#...
- Michele Lorito-Chase
Looks like you have a lot of work to do following everybody.
- Corbett Barr
now i'll have to write something interesting...
- Robert Littlejohn
me! i offer nothing but the warm feeling of having accepted a ff reject.
- Marco
ok. so how will you filter the noise now
- Kfir Pravda
Ooo, I've won the lottery. You'll follow me now. Wheeee! (how do you have the time to go through all of the names by hand? VA assistance?)
- Peggy Dolane
Great :)
- Baard @ Pixum
Interesting trend on twitter - I always wondered what sense it made to follow tens of thousands of people, too much noise. I'm finding it hard enough to follow 2900 (looking to cull even that down as I mostly tweet about 30 people!)
- Tia Singh, Life Coach
211th comment: WTF
- Geer
Good :)
- ★ Soner Gönül
I like your ability to influence so many people. I'm following you (mostly here - on FriendFeed) because it's one of the ways to learn how you do it (but, please, do not follow me if you do not see anything you could learn from me :-).
- Hanna Wiszniewska
I would come up w/ a better vetting process.
- Joe
why would you do that?
- james
got to get a pic up so i can fit the criteria, I only follow 45 people and some of them are on thin ice ( Im lookin at you Scoble)
- James Hunter
"Where in The Net is Robert San Diego?" (cit.) :-)
- Luca Perugini
from iPhone
I'm not kissing your arse,but i do learn a lot listening to you.
- Paul Downing
@scobleizer why would you randomly follow people who comment in this post when you just got done knocking FFollo and having to unfollow a gazillion people on Twitter?
- Bryan Zirkel
Bryan: because I'm following people one by one and putting them into lists on my screen. Autofollowing means you aren't doing ANY of that thinking. Also, autofollowing will get you spammers, if they ever show up (and they will).
- Robert Scoble
@Robert: Read your blogpost and that's indeed what I look at to follow people too. No autofollow and even close friends have to tell something interesting for me to (keep) following. Friends who are new to Twitter (no tweets yet) get the benefit of doubt.
- Patrick Mackaaij
If you follow me, great, but if you don't I'll understand. :) And I ought to do some pruning myself...
- Grant Bierman
Let's give it a try. :0)
- Toma Kazakov
I still don't understand how you want to follow someone who just writes a comment over here. Well, this is not the first time. I did not understand why and how you followed 100k people. I find it hard to properly follow 100 people.
- Sumanth Kolar
Sumanth: obviously there are degrees of "following." When you read the New York Times, do you read the entire paper word for word? I don't. Same when I'm following. I only get random slices of some of my lists. Others, which have 500 people on them, get 100% read.
- Robert Scoble
I'm still here . . . although tired after teaching all day. Louis Gray came to my PR class at SFSU and WOWED the 50 students [except for one who thinks we are making too much of social media] We won't be following him.
- Shari Weiss
I like cheese!
- Paul Puri
Shari: Louis wows me too. Glad to see the class is getting into it.
- Robert Scoble
He he :)
- Richard Holas
I still like the "stranger stream" of Twitter vs "friend feed" of other applications. I don't feel the need to read all tweets from everybody - and tools let me check my fave tweeples. I think mass unfollowing destroys some of the social contract - Robert you are lucky because you are well liked and can do some risky things but companies for example (not Brands of One) would be in...
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- Laurel Papworth
As @charleneli predicted back in January, 2009 will be the year of de-friending on social networks. It's here.
- Mark Evans
Laurel: yeah, you have to navigate these waters carefully if you are representing a brand, that's for sure!
- Robert Scoble
you can put me on your boring list...
- Charles Tanton
i will not get followed back: not powerful, don't have a brand, not a news maker... but i kinda understand the reasons
- Dani Martínez
I still think it all goes into how you use twitter. If your using it as a communication tool it depends on if you are looking for broadcast or 2 way. Its interesting to watch as some of the bigger names turn back from the broadcast and go back to the 2 way.
- Luke Kilpatrick
@Robert so when you're taking in information from FF do you have a feed of several dozen/hundred "key" people and then categorize the rest, or are you mainly searching? Do you utilize groups at all or mainly just rely on what comes across your feeds? I guess I'm curious as to how you're using FF to collect information.
- Bryan Zirkel
I have found Twitter becomes noise rather than a conversation once the following/follower thing gets over a certain mark. I think this is the dirty little secret of Twitter - if it just turns into white noise, rather than a filter, then it becomes less than useful.
- Michael Liss
I'm interested in how we'll all feel over the next few years as social networks continue to change and more people and organizations get on them. Obviously, many of us are getting fed up with spammers and are unfollowing them on Twitter and Facebook. I am also having a hard time keeping up with new subscribers on FriendFeed because I know less about them from their profiles and have to...
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- Cathryn Hrudicka
BTW, I feel like I'm finding lots of interesting new people to follow from these discussions that Robert and others are holding on FF. Cool!
- Cathryn Hrudicka
Am I too late to comment and get followed?
- Hichame Assi
I'm definitely around :)
- KyNam Doan
Aren't you following me already? If not, you should be! LoL
- Thomas Ward
I'm definitely late to be followed. :D
- Faraz Mullick
I don't get it but ok :)
- Parvez Halim
LOL! I follow those I find interesting and which can give me useful information. And hope someone follows me for the same reasons.
- Flavio
Very interesting post - I've always thought that you guys who follow loads of people must get completely swamped by noise! Like you, I've found it useful to follow companies I use that have interesting products like Zoho and Evernote as a way of keeping up to date with their latest innovations. Excellent idea spelling out your "follow criteria" - it needs to become standard etiquette for social networks so that people don't get offended when they aren't followed back :) .
- David Meredith
aren't you doing the same thing here, that you did in Twitter? Choose carefully who you follow, filling your brain with pollution doesn't make you smarter
- Allison
Just finished reading the Mashable post on your unfollow exercise. It's attracting attention from all the other big names now.
- George Hall (Australia)
Very interesting indeed, I only to unfollow a few, cause I just never had auto follow on.. So now I just unfollow the ones I'm bored of..
- Jaap Willem
Seems like a good idea. Although Louis Gray also has a few valid points on his latest blog post why it might be a mistake http://bit.ly/19UKxk
- Silver Hage
I've never understood the auto-follow procedure on any social network. Even on Facebook, where it is obligatory, one can still lower the noise by simply hiding the updates of those who want to follow you, but perhaps also have little personal connection and therefore can be hidden.
- Noah Gray
It seems like the unfollowing was the easy part. Choosing who to follow again must have been a chore. I think it is crucial in twitter (and FriendFeed for that matter) to have a clear out every six months or so otherwise you get bogged down in an information feed you don't really care about.
- Chris Nixon
I can totally understand why you had to do this. I'm following 2700-ish folks on Twitter and I need 3 groups to manage it (using TweetDeck). I feel I am keeping up with most of my local community and the general tech community at large though I'm sure I'm still missing quite a bit of stuff from people who are not in the 3 groups. I also wonder how much more I can actually handle.
- Ken Seto
Um... well, I made something of myself, but then I didn't like what I made, so now I'm doing it all over again. Not sure how that fits with your criteria! Plus, I really don't have a brand or any influence to speak of. I do look great in boxers, however.
- Mark "Mr Bolivious" J
OK, OK, changed my picture. Instead of a green clock (a clock is my personal brand) I put a picture of myself. A lot of people told me to do that....
- Bora Zivkovic
I am still looking for info on holographic technology being used for news delivery. Perhaps it's a technology that hasn't even been invented yet or is sitting on a shelf somewhere. What say you? http://specialdee.wordpress.com/2009...
- Denise
Hoping your new look account has had the desired effect. No need to follow me, I'm not the interesting type, I'll just be glad if your insights, links & content continues. Congrats & good luck
- JanLawrence
Here's what's interesting, Robert, I've noticed an uptick in followers even if you reply or RT or like someone's tweet, not just if you follow that person. Then again, perhaps that's the intent - if you like or RT someone's idea, that's a kind of stamp of approval.
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
Hej hej!
- Peter
The Scoble Pendulum.. How long till we go back to FOLLOW!! FOLLOW!!! FOLLOW!!!! ? :)
- Adrian Scicluna
I did a purge on Facebook for the same reasons a few months ago. It's under 300 and it's people I actually care about. I've come "this close" to running a purge on Twitter but haven't yet. Maybe this will spark me to do it. I've kept FF tight from the beginning.
- Rob Williams
moving from FB to FF ... fewer, longer, more meaningful threads. welcoming your follow. cheers
- marc calamia
ok, you´re following me already :-)
- Torsten Eckert
alright - follow me... - thx in advance Robert Scoble...
- Nilesh
All that commenting in the past counts for nothing?
- Kevin Gamble
Hey Robert... Great post... On FriendFeed, I increasingly put people without meaningful and valuable content on a separate feed that I rarely check... Its a more "sensible" way to unfollow, i think... I only unsubscribe if I get pissed at someone etc. I wish, FF gave users the option to only unsubscribe from comments and likes (but keep the main feed). This would be a good tool to control the noise...
- Onur Kabadayi
I agree with Robert (duh!). I very briefly made the effort of checking out the new follows and deciding whether to follow back. I think once I hit a thousand I shifted to a model of occasionally saying, "If you want me to follow you, talk to me." Hit two thousand and quit saying anything or checking followers. I don't care if they follow me as long as they either say useful things like real people or don't talk at all. I've never autofollowed back. This strategy works for me.
- Patricia F. Anderson
I have a large difference between people I follow (around 2000) and people who follow me (around 1800) - I choose people who are important sources of information. People choose me if they think I am an important source of information to them. I never thought it would have to be a one-to-one relationship as to who is useful to whom: some are informative, others are good listeners and learners. I learn from people I follow and I hope my followers learn from me.
- Bora Zivkovic
I also think that those of us who follow larger numbers of people don't use the stream in the same way. It is more dipping in and out of the stream, trusting that the important stuff will be repeated enough to float to the top, engaging with conversations of the moment. I wrote a blogpost on this earlier this year: http://etechlib.wordpress.com/2009...
- Patricia F. Anderson
Someone told me twitter can be separated into two types. (id say at least two)
- Kay Proskin
Scoble, I am beginning to think you are a cult leader :). Look at all these comments! I am using FF more and more these days... Useful for eGuiders.com that's for sure.
- Marc Ostrick
I'm not sure your following me.
- Amit Morson
Hey Scobie :D Follow me !
- paniaguai
I like Robert. He was one of the first people I followed on Twitter and brought me to FF. But I don't understand why people are desperate to have him follow them. Status? Some kind of virtual autograph?
- Tech Introvert
What the heck. Follow me if you like. I'll be as entertaining & informative as I can.
- Aaron Schaub
from iPod
Been considering doing the same. Your post just might be the flame that lights a fire you-know-where to get it done.
- @katebuckjr
Well done! Who need followers that aren't reading your tweets anyway.
- Sean Rasmussen
I just want a toaster!
- ZuDfunck
I'm considering doing same once I'm more confident in my use of FriendFeed. I RT'd this and it resonated with at least one of my followers.
- Tony Hollingsworth
'Hand-crafted personal network' is the meme of the moment, and whilst I can see the workmanship, where's the value going to be for you, Robert, in following this rag-tag (no offence people :) ) of folks from a gazillion different verticals. (OK, so they're mostly life scientists).
- Andrew Spong
I use to want to be Bob Dylan. Now I am not so sure.
- ZuDfunck
um.....
- Spencer
My take: you can't be an authentic, credible voice to your community if you let 'sex & dollars' spammers hang on to your coattails. Spam followers matter.... in a bad way. Allowing them to be associated with you diminishes your potential value to genuine followers. It's a pain. It takes time. It's worth doing. More on this, if interested: http://tr.im/vJwb
- Andrew Spong
I'll have mine to go.
- ZuDfunck
Hope to see more "old fashioned blogging", like it better than tweets. Tweets are bound to disappear into oblivion the moment they're posted.
- Willem (@wim66) ☠
"Spam followers matter.... in a bad way." - I certainly agree with this. I block pornbots just as quickly as they follow me. I'm less vigilant about the commercial follows, but usually they go away by themselves after a while.
- John Craft
You're already following me here (don't care about twitter tough), so i just hope you don't un-follow, even though you probably don't understand what i'm talking about most of the time, since it's in portuguese.
- Diego Sana
So what happened to the advantages to following so many people you always talked about?
- Bas
Thanks for connecting here, still learning all the advantages of FF
- carece
@Andrew Regarding spam followers and the idea that allowing them to follow you somehow dilutes your credibility, I just have to disagree. To me that places the burden on the wrong person. I don't have time to waste pruning those who follow me, unless they are overtly annoying.My stream is public, they can follow me anyway. What matters to me is that the spammers leave me alone. If they don't, I block them. If they keep quiet, I don't care.
- Patricia F. Anderson
What is important is not who follows me, but who *I* follow.
- Patricia F. Anderson
Follow me if you want, but I gotta warn ya, it's scintillating stuff!
- Pierce Presley
Funny my twitter feed is much noisier but I have been very selective on who I follow. I have tried to make the feed relevant and actionable. At times I post things that seem out of the norm on my twitter feed but that is mainly for the few people who follow me that don't get it but I am trying to keep up their interest level. I also control who follows me, yes this breaks the model but I think the follow everyone model was broken and reckless
- Richard Gallo
Am I interesting? Dunno. I'm often controversial, tho. ;) BTW, we met in person at a Pittsburgh Blogfest, but I really don't expect you to remember that.
- Eric Williams
Enjoyed the post. I just started Twitter a few days ago to get away from Facebook. I like friendfeed the best - can't wait until it becomes more mainstream.
- Robby Parker
Awesome move. Consider that my comment please :)
- Charlotte Barker
friendfeed is definitively more evolved that Twitter. Conversely, user bases of Twitter is still its real (and unique) point of strenght...
- Marco Castellani
Don't want you to follow me (unless you find my stream of interest) but it's quite interesting the number of people that comment to get you to follow!
- Ben Drury
Hey Robert! So, I would like to talk to you about a social media company I'm working with right now. They launched a few months ago and their trajectory and momentum is pretty amazing. Oh, and I started unfollowing the noise in my Twitter after I commented on your blog post.
- Gregg Le Blanc
I'm asking the same thing Bas asked... what about your video on the benefits of following so many people? I took a stab at that method of madness by starting to follow all kinds of people, and following anyone that followed me... but I always felt like I was missing good content from good people because of all the "spam". I started to use TweetDeck to create groups/columns for...
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- Timothy Federwitz
@Patricia - reminds me that I should probably review all my twitter followers and thin things down. :)
- JA Castillo
thanks
- Keith
I like conversing with interesting people. Sometimes that means commenting to get followed, @cogiva. ;)
- Eric Williams
Hi Scoble!
- Pete Gilbert
I did almost the same thing - unfollowed about 1000 from my 1500, no attention is way better
- Maarten den Braber
Couldn't agree more. It's about time we all grew up. BTW Don't follow me. :-)
- Gee Ranasinha
Robert what's the deal with Twitter?
- stockmanmarc
Your post makes good sense. I didn't auto-follow & still find folks to unfollow because their noise gets too loud.
- Debra Ellis
Very clever. I imagine the signal to noise is sooooo much better.
- Chris Brogan
I've been thinking about unfollowing a bunch twitter folks as well. I'll look at SocialToo again. My initial experience with SocialToo wasn't good. However, it was during their infancy.
- Ron Hudson
I don't blame you at all. Leo was all over that yesterday.
- Daniel B. Honigman
why would simply leaving a comment prompt you to follow me?
- David Wescott
You're not going to change your mind and mass unfollow us are you?
- walidmREALTOR
Sup! :-)
- Jon Winters
I suspect it identifies you as a real person interested in dialog, David.
- Eric Williams
Followers are currency and you have plenty to spend
- Lee Odden
Bob, did you do anything on Twitter recently ? Did you massively refollow people ? Seems like you screwed up Twitter : down for a while... ;-)
- Enikao
Follow me! @carloscomputers
- carloscomputers
very cool timing with just before twitter goes down hard! well done Robert! @crbrowning
- Colin
@davidorban
- David Orban
I've followed you and have really enjoyed your posts. I think I would miss that
- Tom
Good to hear that your experiment has stopped the spam @lindsaydavies
- Lindsay Davies
ciao Robert!
- alex
Your ego is amazing. You make it seem like it is a special deal to be followed by you. I'm glad there are many very bright, talented people here who follow others, regardless of class, education, social status and not based on some snobbish criteria.
- RuthNH
DON'T follow me! I write in Italian :-)
- Lorenzo Strambi
Here I be
- Robert
Wow, this is a lot of comments. And kudos for following Followable people who have something interesting to contribute to your day. I'm glad you did it, because that means you'll find AND share more interesting things. This, in turn, makes you more followable too. Thanks for seeing the light, so to speak.
- ax0n
You killed twitter.
- Melissa Pierce
and now with twitter down, many will flock to here!
- Mark V. Fusco
Did this take down Twitter this morning Robert?
- frank barry
That must of taken a long time :-) I've always been a fan of twitter, but I must say they have struggled in the last few weeks. We are working with their API on a project and their seems to be an issue every other day that causes problems. Do they have what it takes?
- Chris Nadeau
I follow under 200 people and it's great. I can't imagine 1k+ . I add about three or four a month.
- Mike Janicke
I unfollow people when I find I ignore their tweets/updates. After reading your blog, I think we ALL need to be more judicious.
- Janet Barker-Evans
Is this why Twitter is down? LOL! Can't check to see if you unfollowed me. Hope not. You, Shel Israel, and Jeremiah Owyang were some of the very first people I followed way back before Twitter even had 100,000 people on the service. -- It's been a fun ride but, of course, the spammers always show up to make things difficult.
- Brenda Young
How do you really know if you should be following someone until you follow them for a while? Sometimes I don't start talking to someone until I see a common interest, then I tweet back and we start talking, but that could be months later. I don't follow everyone back, but I follow back those that interact. I will unfollow once I see that won't happen, or I don't like their tweets.
- Nadine Gilden
Twitter is victime of it own success, they have to re learn how to scal better, but more important they have to learn to share better.
- abdellah
looks like you'll need to follow at least 343 people LOL
- Shari Weiss
Friendfeed takes over for twitter finally?
- Thomas Resing
@Patricia I don't want potential followers to be put off by who is following me. I wouldn't want them to think I care more about have n+1 followers than I do about what they're going to see if they review who I've allowed to follow me. Not to cull spammers suggests I care more about my experience than theirs. To a great extent, the quality of their experience will determine the quality...
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- Andrew Spong
1600 ... isn't that a big number too? It could be you'll think again before you follow every one here :)
- Mario Gastaldi
Hi... do I get a follow?
- Jason Mayoff
If you are already following me. Will you double follow me? :)
- Brady
Still waiting for my Building 43 t-shirt. Not that I'm bitter or anything. ;-)
- Donna Tuttle
Respect your opinion Robert but we'll have to agree to disagree. Yes I despise all the FakePornSpamBots who follow me. I block as many as I can, but can't keep up. Our views differ regarding what is important to SEE! I treasure home Home stream! I read it, refresh, read, refresh and in minutes I have the pulse of the world... at least MY world! EVERYONE has something of value to share at some point. If I UNfollow tens of thousands, I will miss so much worthy of consideration.
- Arleen Boyd
Just another reason why it's good to diversify, I can still read your posts here. :)
- Luis Sandoval
Cheers!
- Jeff Wiant
Funny. I was catching up on news on Friendfeed for some odd reason. Great post; plenty for new and long-time users alike to consider there.
- Alex Howard
I'm still waiting for the ultimate tool to manage my followings - I can only manage to keep up with about 1/3 of those following me. I'd love to see something that can tell me what friends of mine also follow those that I am or those that are following me. Maybe it's out there and I missed it?
- TheDiva Rockin
Anyone interested in assessing the quality of their followers should check http://tweetblocker.com. It's pretty chastening. I aim to improve on my C rating. http://www.buzzom.com is a fun, fast way of decoupling yourself from non-reciprocal followers. You can select individuals to purge, or flush 50 random non-reciprocal followers at a time.
- Andrew Spong
Robert, your timing could not be better. ;-)
- Dave Martin
Great post, with perfect timing! Dang it, Dave Martin just took it off my lips.
- Vadim Lavrusik
/me waves
- Kevin Johnson
from iPhone
I hereby rename this comment thread neoTwitter <waves at followers>
- Andrew Spong
Awww, you gotta admit, saturation, the level of influence that you have, because of your high follower, count, is a tool of mass destruction. Seriously, did you think if you recommend an online service that people would not try it out? Was this an asassination attempt
- Peter Murphy
I'm glad i'm not the only one who misses /me actions from IRC, Kevin. ;)
- Eric Williams
With today's Twitter outage your timing is pretty stinking good, Robert. :)
- Chris Cree
Now to get the rest of the world to follow that same logic when it comes to follow/unfollow! I only started being more selective as Twitter (and everyone else) started getting aggressive with spammers or anyone that even remotely did a single spammy tweet. Now if only there were the same contact management tools available for the other social networks as with Twitter. No matter what though, I'll continue updating my status when I eat a peanut butter sandwich! (With Fluff of course!).
- Paul Monaco
Twitter couldn't handle the mass unfollow load, blew up...
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
I've been followed by Robert Scoble :-)
- David Finch
Follow iPolitics
- Jacob Kobi Gamliel
Now I think that it is time to think about a way to make money using Twitter.
- abdellah
@Mark, +1. When in doubt, the default delegation of blame goes to Robert.
- Dave Martin
what is critical mass for twitter? Too few and nobody interacts, Too many and spam bots overwhelm, Is it 1K or 2K needed to get a real experience?
- WarLord
Hmm can you unsubscribe from "comment notification via e-mail" in FF on a *specific* topic? This one :-)
- Patrick Mackaaij
Of course I thonk it is a different experience if you hand follow reading each bio from the beginning then these mass purges are unnecessary
- WarLord
I thought you already followed me. lol
- Duane-PreppyDude
Not sure if you do, but here I am...
- Aron Michalski
I am intrigued how RT addict will RT now?!! (ps: FF please don't post this to my twitter)
- abdellah
I have been keeping my twitter account private a majority of the time lately b/c I am going through a divorce, but I really kinda like it. Have been reducing followers as well as the number I follow.
- Jackson Miller
You should follow me here in FF and on Twitter too!
- Karthi
hopefully most of us have proven our worth beyond commenting on this single thread
- andy brudtkuhl
I like the way you operate, Scoble. Thanks in advance for the follow!
- Dr. Frank Ramblings, Ph.D
Nice way of doing it...
- Charles
No need to follow me unless you are actually going to engage in conversation with me.
- Jeff Hurt
If you're already following and we comment, will you unfollow? *wink Hoping all is well your way!
- Dayngr
4&5 are my favorite! Those are big reasons I decide to follow someone too.
- Kelly Mitton
I'm lucky. Have never had Twitter spam. But then again I'm no Scoble either :)
- Lori Reed
I am the peanut butter eating bot
- Benjamin Spector
If you are already following me on ff does that mean I get a cookie or something? ;-)
- Tomy Thomson
I'll add my name to the list. I came back to FF after the Twitter DoS outage. Maybe Scoble broke Twitter by all his unfollowing. He was the "glue" holding Twitter together. :-)
- Tom Newman
Robert: Here's the bit you missed off the end of your title here: .... and put them in that group I don't read :-)
- Jim Connolly
Hi Robert, greetings from germany.
- Flynn (Michael A. Volz)
add me for your social media and the practice of law news!
- Rex Gradeless
Great post. I'm sure that some people might say that this kind of mass unfollowing will hurt Twitter, but I think it's just the opposite. Users who are following people they have no interest in just to pad their own numbers are diminishing the meaning of "following."
- Mark Denton
@Ulrichmargarita
- Ulrichmargarita
To stave off being unfollowed we need to comment here ya say?
- Jason
you are already following me here... perhaps you'll consider re-following me on twitter too
- t i n y m
I don't know how you ever did it the other way. I am not in the tech world near as much as I used to be, which wasn't a whole lot. I just followed some random people I saw on SMugMug-related people on here when I started. You were one of them. I had no idea who you were (and still don't :-), but you talked about Twitter a lot too, which got me on there as well. Both services have really...
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- James Schipper
Follow away!
- Ferdinand Perez
ok 400 jackpot
- abdellah
Quality over quantity in all things, including (perhaps especially) Twitter. Loved your friending methodology -- those are the same rules I've applied since being on Twitter. Posted them onto Posterous to share the love with credit to you: http://lorilaurentsmith.posterous.com/
- Lori Laurent Smith
it's not about unfollowing, it's about filtering...
- Barak Hachamov
I started out following everyone on Twitter.Then I got wise. When someone's stream becomes more noise than signal, that's when I consider unfollowing. I realize that threshhold is different for everyone, but I'll take "what I had for lunch" over a dozen bogus "marketing tips" any day.
- Julie Barrett
from twhirl
Well, I am trying to use FriendFeed more after watching Scoble's video on all those monitors he had up. I'm not a big consumer of information and don't own a TV but this online social stuff has been a perfect fit into my life because I can connect with people who are fountains of knowledge on a specific subject or are "human mashups". I like both!
- Adria Richards
Why !?
- Bertrand Soulier
from iPhone
I've been reading al of this unfollow bits, and this point of yours:
- Donna
Hey, I think that today you might make your point about FriendFeed being more interesting than Twitter. Hope you are well. Talked with @fransteps this morning and she is excited to work with you at Rackspace.
- Kami Huyse
hi
- George Desmyter
I would appreciate the follow, thanks!
- Jeff Reisdorfer
I've been reading all of this un-follow posts lately, and this point of yours in WHY you unfollowed: "#2 Because I personally care about everyone I am following their noise level is a LOT lower. ." Is exactly what I do. And now I am starting to understand Friendfeed more. and using posterous to do aggregate posts. So is this overload making more people sit up and think first? I think so. At least the intelligent ones.
- Donna
I love you Scoble! ;)
- Carol Levesque
with all due sycophantism :)
- jeff hammond
This is a great move, Robert. It's also a lot more human...I was almost convinced that you were the only person who could actually drink from the fire hose without choking.
- Steffan Antonas
That sounds fair. After this morning, I've renewed my love for FriendFeed and Tweetworks. Until the next DDos attacks, of course. I will miss the fake porn stars, but I did when I moved from L.A.
- Scott Pierce
Steffan; I agree...there is no way anyone else could do what Robert S. does. It's good to see him become human.
- Robert Jones
This has been my problem for about the past six months. I routinely go in and unfollow, get the noise level down to where I want it, and then end up following back a bunch of new people, some of whom I'm incredibly grateful to get to know. When I had track, it was a whole lot easier to manage the stream, but I suspect even that tool would now be out of hand. I have a set of rules for...
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- Karoli
hee hee. i am commenting not so much to beg your follow but what a clever pitch:)
- Tresha Thorsen
Robert - I have not read all 416 comments so if this was asked and you answered forgive me. What was the all of a sudden revelation that caused you to reverse stance on Twitter Followers?
- Jeff Vreeland
It's difficult to maintain and filter a list on all the social networking sites. I cannot even imagine maintaining the kinds of lists you must deal with, Robert.
- Jeremy Brooks
Dude, you broke Twitter! When you unfollowed all of your 100,000 the other day you pulled the rug right out from under it, so it fell down and now it can't reach its beer. :-)
- Robert Morrison
Actually I felt rather sad being fav'ed by you on FriendFeed then dumped.. But again. I get more from you from FriendFeed, so oh well, stop talking about Following and Get on more with Tech! :P
- Du Senyao Peter
Me Me! lol!
- Bill McGehee
i like the idea of importing favorite tweets into friendfeed. i haven't used that favorite feature much because i haven't seen any real use in it. thanks!
- Jonathan Blundell
When twitter is down I always wish I could tweet: checkout friendfeed. Nevertheless, how will following folk that leave a message here really improve the quality of your input? While I don't want to judge many of the fine folk on this thread, are they all that interesting? In other words, isn't this the start of the same problem you had on Twitter...
- Jon Mountjoy
what like here? this is a comment :)
- michelle harris
Barak - isn't filtering just unfollowing while pretending you're still following? ;)
- Matthew Blaisdell
Well to bounce back on your Twitter is down comment I think it is time to watch this video again http://www.youtube.com/watch... Hilarious!
- 77Agency
Robert, I'm glad you decided to stop auto-follow (finally). :)
- Veronica Sopher
I'm in
- Jeroen Sangers
from Nambu
works for mw
- Brendan Jackson
from twhirl
Robert, but why clutter your FriendFeed stream? This comment is not to get you to courtesy follow me on FriendFeed, think you've established you've changed your thinking. :)
- L.P. NEENZ FALEAFINE
OK, I have enough people to follow so I will close the comments on this thread. Thank you everyone, I will try to get to everyone today.
- Robert Scoble
Anyone knows if Google Engine Java supports AspectJ?
It's supposed to work. I see some related projects referring to using AspectJ on GAE.
- Ray Cromwell
Tx Ray.
- Jeremy Chone
I miss the old days of blogging where the developers ruled. Who is coding and what are you coding?
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I'm coding SocialToo and eventually will be working on a pretty cool Wordpress Facebook Connect plugin (expanding the very first one I developed)
- Jesse Stay
Those old days aren't gone, btw ;-)
- Jesse Stay
I'm coding a sex oriented contact site :p
- Per
I'm coding my portfolio website and always working on various graphic designs.
- Sam Goldfield
@Nocebo i WAS coding a PHP framework but gave it up...Learned alot doing it though!
- Per
@Jesse -- Got a mailing list? I'm interested in the WP-FB Connect. :-)
- James (!?)
I'm looking for a coder for a cool new iphone app to give situational business advice. Know anyone good?
- James Watters
just starting on FF integration for us. Someone requested a feature that I'm currently exploring.
- Jerry Schuman
James, not yet, but I should create one. Let me get around to where I can devote some time to it (hopefully soon) and I'll start organizing it. I've got some great ideas that I think would kill any other Facebook Connect plugin out there - also thinking of integrating FriendFeed and possibly eventually Google Wave into the same plugin.
- Jesse Stay
piecing together my personal site
- jalbert
James, have a strategic partner that has done a few iPhone apps now. They're in Costa Rica and are very good.
- Jerry Schuman
Jerry: cool, if you have any info contact on them DM to me? I hate not knowing how to code iphone myself
- James Watters
Working on some nitty gritty in Drupal to showcase local tweets but filter out all the spam.
- Dean Clark
Dean, cool. My other project is sadtweets.com to show an emotionally specific set of twitter feeds, maybe the two could mix
- James Watters
I'm coding a multi-profile openid-centric distributed open source twitter clone which already has more than 5000 downloads. More than 200 of these "tweet networks" have lit up my ping-based "recentralized" search engine. Soon, anyone will be able to get a network just by making an account at http://twitteronia.com :-)
- Brian Hendrickson
I'm coding a real-time social tool for bloggers and blog readers, a browser-based app that can replace google reader/feedly functionality, but works more like twitter/frieendfeed, beeing an effortlessly and easy tool to share your activity stream on the blogosphere. Does that sounds good? :p
- Diego Sana
Continuing to add services to my little web console http://wcons.s3.amazonaws.com/c... as more interesting JSON and JSONP apis become available. Let me know if you know of any other good ones.
- Zachary Poley
I'm coding in php on http://sleepindex.com
- Dennis Goedegebuure
James, yes mine is much more simple. Using it as a great way to get more comfortable with Drupal. Digging around the FeedAPI trying to see the best/fastest way to ignore all the spam tweets. Very small, but useful because we used to have a good local twitter community here we had some Gurus who up.
- Dean Clark
I'm coding a social mapping service on App Engine in Python.
- Mohamed J
I'm working on Feed-buster: http://feed-buster.appspot.com/, an AppEngine service that enables better RSS/ATOM feed media importing into FriendFeed.
- Ivan Zuzak
Dean: I look forward to checking it out. I've followed you.
- James Watters
hmm..widgets for Vodafone using HTML5/CSS/Javascript etc.. :-)
- Dimitris Rakopoulos
an API for Real time train departure info for across Europe...
- Joel Haasnoot
Hah, back to the original post, that's how i feel about Digg, and Twitter. Found the content was always more forward thinking and at the edge.
- Malcolm Bastien
Little time to code with all the tech/internet related bullshit I have to deal with, but there are a number of things in the hopper.. now to find the time.
- Andy Bakun
How about you Robert? :)
- Djordje Lukic
I'm building an asynchronous messaging app/framework that can run workflow-driven enterprise/integration -applications or web apps that need to support complicated (long-running) processes. A bit like BizTalk Server, but simpler to build apps for. Posting data from apps is instantenous (non-blocking) and reliable as a separate gateway-process takes care of collecting/queueing data which is then sent (or pullled) to the actual ESB/BPM -service. Coding with .NET/C#.
- Jemm
from fftogo
I'm replacing Wordpress with a hand built blogging system. And I'm rewriting my stats app. And I'm interning at a place, doing web dev stuff. I'm having fun!
- Yuvi
And yes. Too much fluff :(
- Yuvi
Packet processing for switches and routers. In C and assembly: I know how many instructions the common paths execute. In other words, I'm a complete relic.
- DGentry
I'm coding this: http://www.youtube.com/watch... Going to leverage cloud computing for cheap scale and social networks to build a community around the game.
- Jeff Weber
A 3D modeling application in Flex/Papervision3D, VSTS development and iphone dev in my personal time.
- Kamath (नमः)
I'm coding vooices.us which is a way to control web content by phoning the webpage and then using your voice to control tge content
- Paul Rawlings
Cleaning up and augmenting the backend of all of GoldMail's products -- Windows services, SQLServer, web services; working on the desktop WinForms app to add some Facebook integration features. All In .Net.
- RobinDotNet
Also wrote a nifty Outlook Add-In on my own time to enable the users to send GoldMails from Outlook with embedded HTML; our PM likes it so much, we're going to release it as a beta! I was just trying to play around with VSTO and the deployment thereof.
- RobinDotNet
actually: coding an eCommerce site in Drupal + Ubecart + Facebook integration (ajax & json stuff)
- Vincio
I'm building a lightweight gateway to integrate couple of applications. It's based on .NET/C#/WCF.
- Tapio Kulmala
now everyone is coding for the iPhone, hoping to make a lot of money
- Konstantin
I don't remember how to code :(
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Robert, so many developers are busy coding... @steyblind built me http://links.ryansholin.com on a whim; he and @nicksergeant from @lionburger build http://afeedapart.com for An Event Apart in Boston last week. And the same team is almost done building version 2.0 of my Knight News Challenge project, http://reportingon.com Most of that is getting built in Django and hosted at Slicehost.
- Ryan Sholin
I'm working on my FFDirect (wordpress->friendfeed) plugin.
- Panayotis Vryonis
If I had the time I would build a mashup service on top of Google App Engine.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Obviously, I am writing code for YackTrack. That is mostly social media stuff, but I am also getting back into various types of analytics, mostly for work but other stuff too. Of course I was gone for a few hours shopping with the family, and I needed a monitor cable for my new (used) mac mini :) So, yeah, there will be some toying with iphone development.
- Rob Diana
I'm the lead developer of Brandopoly (http://brandopoly.com), a platform that allows businesses to create custom marketing materials in minutes without the use of a design department or expensive software.
- Mark Trapp
Doing it right now on Microsoft's campus, dude. ;)
- l0ckergn0me
There are 60k apps almost now; I'm not coding to iphone to make money, but because it is a unique platform for the kind of app experience I want.
- James Watters
Working on an iPhone app (my 3rd).
- Donald Forth
Don: I'd love to hear about it and learn from your experiences. I've followed now I hope you discuss it.
- James Watters
I am redoing our Prescription Monitoring product's architecture and base classes in C# 3.5 today, and is also working on a Photo Lineup Wizard
- RAPatton
I'm coding my own blog & website (Drupal), hopefully other websites soon, & various Linux Softwares including a social media one (multi-platform) ;)
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
I am coding a bunch of A-life sims with processing, trying to migrate a site to the Typo3 CMS (which is huge) and coding bespoke site plugins for a Joomla user.
- dannystaple
film
- michael sean wright
I use MATLAB to model systems that enable other people to go make science.
- James Myatt
I think I'll hack some embedded code for my light painting today. I take the honorific seriously of being the only person who has to put away the assembler code to go off and photograph naked women.
- Wirehead
Lukic: I am a copy-and-paste programmer! :-)
- Robert Scoble
I recently made a twitter specific tokenizer. rips words, links, and @ addresses out of a tweet stream as fast as possible. Now to figure out what to do with it....
- Capn' One Eye - adrift
Just launched a new version of au.reachout.com running on Rails. Today are some enhancements to an old client project running PHP/CodeIgniter.
- Toby Hede
Upcoming project will be using Erlang and Nitrogen, and my play time is spent with HTML Canvas, JQuery, Processing and Burst.
- Toby Hede
Building an iPhone app, of course. Not going to say what it is yet, but hopefully it'll be finished in the next couple weeks. I think you'll dig it, Scoble.
- Aaron Brethorst
Working on a side project that I think could be a very unique approach to solving many problems that most 'normal casual users' face on the internet. I hope it can also hold its own to the power users as well but not my initial target (though I'm afraid the power users will turn into the early adopters). Feels like I'm building a Death Star some nights...
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
It's a secret
- Glen, Bespectacled Elder
no time to write all the stuff i'm coding... at least the stuff that isn't secret :-)
- Charles Ying
built a twitter file sharing app late one night last week. a throwback to FTP. http://tweetFTP.com. actually looking for small group of test users.
- sull
Sull: Very smart app. Would all of you please rule blogging again? I am CSS/HTML/PHP, but off to school to learn more of the above.
- E-Advocate Network
Of course something fancy with JavaScript in a mobile context, but I have to admit that my developer focus has shifted ...
- bishoph
Developers aren't gone at all, just look at FF, Twitter, FB, and the zlllions of third party apps for them
- Bob Morris (polizeros)
I am writing an application that sends SMS messages from excel spreadsheet. Like mail merge with SMS as an output.
- Nitin Nanivadekar
I am working on porting some of my existing Windows apps to *nix...Mac will be next.
- April Russo (app103)
Habari, core, plugins, and themes.
- Michael C. Harris
trying to only use copy/paste as model to build very functional blogs e.g. http://www.jeroendemiranda.com - I like the WP2.8 / Thesis combo very much; 'TS custom widgets' (idea taken from http://www.building43.com/site-cr... !) and new WP widget setup allows for quasi subsites within my blog (different set of widgets/plugins displayed on various catagory pages). Still need my coding background when problems arise; e.g. memory errors in WP ;-)
- Jeroen De Miranda
advantage of the copy/paste model of buidling websites and weblogs is that this enables much higher productivity when building very useful and functional sites. My target still is to build a fully functional blog 1 1 working day tops (including CSS; setting up all plugins, RSS, feedburner, Friendfeed, twitter, js-kit, ...). Now playing around with SVN and http://www.liquibase.com for easier database upgrading and enabling better OTAP support (especially for the wp-options table)
- Jeroen De Miranda
I am writing a collaborative Timeline project for World War Two and the Napoleonic Wars (going to add other projects later on). I also mashup Google Maps and the Patrick O'Brian Napoleonic Age of Sail Books (Master and Commander). http://www.cannonade.net
- Tom Horn
Tom: I'm really interested by the Napoleonic Wars's timeline. Congrats for this brilliant idea ;)
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
Thanks very much. I have only recently got the user contribution stuff going, but I have high hopes for the system collecting some great user data. My motivation was basically that the volume of information for World War Two was too much for one person to enter (ie me), so a friend suggested a community mode.
- Tom Horn
Working on a script to send database updates from one server to another server via CURL in PHP.
- Bari Hossain
Actually, not gone yet, started as Developer, moved to management Oracle and Adobe, and back to coding (www.intellijuris.com)! Refreshing believe me!
- Jeremy Chone
Working on a modular magazine-ish theme for Habari using soon to be added features to the theme engine, think WP widgets for grown ups.
- Michael B
Coding an app that conforms to Apple's HTTP live streaming spec and will be able to push live streaming content to Amazon S3.
- Carson McDonald
I am coding a firefox add-on called Omture [ http://www.omture.com ]
- Arvind
Right now, a Drupal/Flex fashion ecommerce site
- Mo Kargas
I am coding ColdFusion on several projects, as well as playing with Jquery and other JS libraries.
- Luke Kilpatrick
Building a video codec to handle low-bandwidth streaming of three-dimensional works. The color distortion caused by sites like youtube mutates the effect and can lead to motion sickness, headaches, and general lack of enjoyment. :P
- Connor Towle
Right now I am coding a game for children with learning disabilities. As soon as that is done, I'll get back to the second version of our in-house time-tracking app.
- Andrés David Aparicio
I'm working on Python web apps (large on App Engine) using Zope technologies and libraries. I don't want to talk about the specific apps I'm working on right now, but you can see a few I've released publicly here: http://www.webappwednesday.com
- Michael R. Bernstein
Microsoft's Browser Comparison Chart - http://blogoscoped.com/archive...
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"As you can see, Internet Explorer has security, privacy, and ease of use, whereas Firefox and Chrome don’t have those. Gotta love some old-fashioned propaganda."
- Atul Arora
from Bookmarklet
They are so funny.
- Jeremy Chone
LMAO!
- vijay
If there's one thing that makes Firefox difficult to use it's the lack of 'Accelerators' :-)
- Alex Gawley
This is ridiculous. Funny but ridiculous. Come on MS, just let the browser stand on its merits (however many there are) and stop making stuff up.
- Chieze Okoye
HAHAHA, check out what they say about Performance: "Knowing the top speed of a car doesn't tell you how fast you can drive in rush hour. To actually see the difference in page loads between all three browsers, you need slow-motion video. This one’s also a tie." lol, give me a break!
- Chieze Okoye
My thoughts on Opera Unite debate (based on http://my.opera.com/haavard...)
The difference with Wave and Unite, is that Wave is a specification and reference implementation, while Unite is a centralized service based on p2p (i.e. you need the one and only one central Unite service to operate). The goal of Wave is that everybody can be their own Wave server.
- Jeremy Chone
I really like the Unite idea, it is a good use-case of what I used to call p2p for Web 2.0 http://www.bitsandbuzz.com/article..., however, I am not fan of having a central service architecture. Granted, it is mostly for lookup and fall-back (which is a very good thing), but the architecture should be open and distributed.
- Jeremy Chone
As with Wave, everybody should be able to build their own Unite Service, and Unite Servers should be able to talk to each other (as for SMTP and as with the future Wave). If Opera had done that, then, Unite would have been as big as Wave (IMO).
- Jeremy Chone
Who Killed Twitter? http://www.enewslatest.com/2009...
Very good post. I agree with:1) Twitter has never been a Google, Facebook killer, but just a new way to do “one-to-many” 2) My usage pattern is the same as yours. Signed up, did not use it for a while, went back to it, and using it a lot. I think search is the most interesting. Until user do not understand that they go not get the true value of twitter. 3) Twitter is not dead, but it is not the new Internet (thanks god) However, I used to use desktop and mobile tools, but they are unreliable time to time. Twhirl is very buggy, tweetdeck has a weird interface (with this columns rather than tabs), and on mobile Android G2, I cannot find a good one that have my @reply, search, and retweet (on any message). Obviously, looking for free stuff, not going to pay for a twitter client ;)
- Jeremy Chone
As someone who has been mercilessly preyed on by @arrington, watching @leolaporte tell him off was a supreme moment of schadenfreude glee.
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I've never had any direct contact with Arrington, but it does seem as if he is at the center of a lot of controversies and drama.
- Kevin Pedraja
Mike should do a TV show where people tell him off for an hour in ever-more-creative ways. Funny thing is I think everyone would enjoy it, including Mike. :-)
- Dave Winer
Would this be like the weekly British House of Lords thing where they all get to give the Prime Minister what for?
- Matthew DeVries
BTW, when I commented back and got censored. I said this: http://friendfeed.com/jeremyc...
- Jeremy Chone
I agree that censoring people who disagree with him is non-ethical and a serious step to the dark side. TC is expected to raise the standards, not the other way around.
- Stephan Osmont
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"Disclosure: when I got back from Virginia this morning a Palm Pre was waiting for me. I didn’t ask for it, I didn’t know it was coming. It is only for seven days (I have to send it back). Now, that said, I think it’s a valid question to wonder what Mike is wondering. It’s something I always ask myself when I get goodies from the industry. Did I get these because I’m too nice? I used to be on the inside with the Amazon Kindle team, for instance, then did a nasty review of the unit, and I haven’t been given a review unit since. I did give the Palm Pre a nice review back in January at CES and have generally been pushing it pretty nicely for them since. I think it’s a great device and the first one I’ve seen that comes up to Apple’s standards for fit and finish. Getting the review unit today doesn’t change my feelings about that. As for questioning Leo’s ethics, I’ve seen many times that his ethics are above question and I agree that getting your ethics questioned isn’t fun and isn’t..."
- Robert Scoble
well said!!!
- Calvin Ayre
The topic certainly could have been raised more respectfully and diplomatically. It's a concern that could have been addressed then the conversation could have moved on.
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
Just read this, and after reading the negative comments given by people after Leo had closed the Gilmore Gang episode. I tend to have mixed thoughts.
- Matt Ruiz
quick question - instead of suggesting foul play and questioning reviewers ethics, did arrington ever think it might be his promise to never honor an embargo that meant they didn't get one?
- Richard Lawler
wondering how u get product(s) 2 be reviewed Robert? I am new in reviewing tech products.
- polou/indigo_bow
I guess Leo likes everybody except Bob Parsons and Michael Arrington. Thank You Terry Baldwin MILL ROSE INN LUXURY GARDEN SUITES <http://www.millroseinn.com/> http://www.millroseinn.com Classic European Elegance By The Sea 615 Mill Street, Half Moon Bay CA 94019-1726 Phone: (650) 726-8750 800-900-ROSE (7673) Fax: (650) 726-3031 Email: tb@millroseinn.com
- Terry Baldwin
from email
polou: PR people make lists of people with large or interesting audiences (to them). How they do that? A variety of ways.
- Robert Scoble
Leo actually is given suprisingly little access to new products, this one quite rare
- David Lloyd
Polou: There's a pitch scoble group http://friendfeed.com/pitchsc... - theres an explation why its best to pitch him there too: http://friendfeed.com/pitchsc... ;)
- Nicholas James
Both Leo and Michael are out of line here: Leo for blowing his top, and Michael for not letting Leo even begin his statement/review. I'd like to see some sort of public making-up on this issue. I would hate to believe that a little piece of plastic would engender such hostility between two grown men. Makes me sad ;_;
- Carlton Prest
Carlton: The Gilmor Gang are going to finish off the show now - Leo is heading back to the studio. I guess we'll could probably see a making-up on the show too.
- Nicholas James
Leo apologized to Mike on Techcrunch.
- Russellreno
Cristo: I laughed at this. I'm sorry but that's Hilarious.
- Matt Ruiz
The Gang has never been "family friendly", it's just recently Leo has heavily moderated the discussion, and kept things going out of control.
- Greg Byrne
I think Canter's marijuana buds maybe were medicinal marijuana?
- Thomas Hawk
no but the peace offering and apologies accepted on the site in public is excellent, nice to see that right on the same page for a change.
- Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
Leo said on Windows Weekly 2 weeks ago that he was getting a PRE and that it was a review unit and he had to send it back.
- Chris Patterson
Christo, I know the feeling.
- Thomas Hawk
Ryo: You REALLY need to listen to the 2nd version of the Gillmor Gang AND see the Techcrunch post
- Nicholas James
Isn't that kind of attack-approach exactly how Techcrunch gets much of its traffic? They understand how to make a buzz. Reading Mike Arrington swearing at people on the comments for that post, shows this attack-approach (what Leo called Trollishness) in action. I'm not a fan of Mike Arrington, but when it comes to getting noticed, the guy's a master. He has the traffic results to prove it.
- Jim Connolly
For the whole story, both parts are here: http://feeds2.feedburner.com/TheGill...
- Jack
"The topic certainly could have been raised more respectfully and diplomatically." The words "respect" and "diplomatic" do not exist, in my estimation, in Mike Arrington's vocabulary. This from a guy who whines that his job is so hard he has to take a month or two off from the stress every year. Stop being such a giant blowjob critic, and you'll still get bj's. Act like a cretin the way...
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- Dave Martin
Ok, so I commented on @Techcrunch article and I got censored (and banned). Here is what I said (in a polite and respectful. Basically I said that "I think that @Arrington asked a leading question and insinuated that the Leo's opinion was not going to be honest because he got a review unit. Leo overreacted, but Michael was not innocent either. I think that @Arrington would not have asked...
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- Jeremy Chone
i love friendfeed.. threads like this are only here.. ppl on twitter are totally unaware of what is going on here.... thanks scoble!
- Jason Pollock
I thought this was hilarious. I don't know much about either of them but Laporte seems to have exaggerated quite a bit. Maybe there is history between them but it was a completely valid question/point. They have apologized to each-other now though so it's all fine... but a good viral video they created there hehe
- Marko Saric
I think Mike is not fair on this one. He is just playing the candid guy. http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
I think that @Arrington asked a leading question and insinuated that the Leo's opinion was not going to be honest because he got a review unit. Leo overreacted, but Michael was not innocent either. Also, @Arrington's point on conflict of interest is a little miss-placed. Commercial Bloggers/Podcasters are always on the gray line (which I have nothing against). For example, given Mike's personal investment in Seesmic, the “add a Video Comment with Seesmic” at the bottom of every Techcrunch post might be seen as a conflict of interest. It might not be, I do not know, but again, anything can be spin one way or another.
- Jeremy Chone
I posted a similar comment on the article (just politely sharing my point of view), and I got censored and banned from @Techcrunch by @Arrington. I guess it is fair enough, Techcrunch is his blog, he can censor as he sees fit.
- Jeremy Chone
How would you feel if eBay or Amazon was buying Twitter? Sure thing is that they make a heck of money through the service...
eBay is already trying to get rid of Skype.
- Jeremy Chone
@cromwellian My understanding of Android, is that it uses Java as a programing language, but then compile it to its own bytecode.
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That doesn't really alter the equation much. GWT compiles to Javascript, yet I run the same code on Android and as an Applet.
- Ray Cromwell
Also, the dex tool from the Android SDK converts bytecode to Dalvik .dex code
- Ray Cromwell
@cromwellian I think it is another order of complexity. JavaFx is NOT Java. It get compiled to Java ByteCode.
- Jeremy Chone
@cromwellian So, running JavaFx without a JavaVM would require a JavaFX runtime and a JavaFX cross compiler (not the same a the Java one)
- Jeremy Chone
@cromwellian Moreover, what Larry/Sun meant, was to run JavaFX on Java capable devices, which Android is not (at least out of the box). Java on mobile has not be very successful, despite Sun's assertion.
- Jeremy Chone
Semantics. In practice, most jar files run unchanged on Android. Whether something has a trademark doesn't influence execution.
- Ray Cromwell
@cromwellian Man, if you can make JavaFX app run on Android (without Java VM), I would be super impressed! I think it is more complex that just running a .jar file.
- Jeremy Chone
Of course, the gfx layer isn't Swing/AWT, but I bet it's less than 1 month of work. 90%+ of the code probably works.
- Ray Cromwell
An Entrepreneur Three Core Values: http://www.bitsandbuzz.com/article...
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The URL reads like IntelliJ URIs, I though it was related to the intellij idea IDE :)
- Ray Cromwell
from Nambu
@cromwellian Luckily I do not think there will be many Lawyers that uses IntelliJ ;)
- Jeremy Chone
Another way you can stalk me? Watch what I use on my computer here: http://wakoopa.com/Scobleizer
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You'll see that I use friendfeed a lot. :-)
- Robert Scoble
PR people should use this to see where they'll most likely get a response from the people they are trying to pitch.
- Robert Scoble
scobes, how often does this update? signed up a few days ago per your request and it was pretty noisy. do you push this app to twitter as well?
- Kevin Murray
"So far Scobleizer has used 53 different applications for 24 hours in total" wow, that's a lot of appz in just 24h but i guess it would be pretty much the same with me.
- Sascha Pallenberg
Funny thing is, Robert, you have made yourself so accessible by posting you email addresses and phone number countless times is it even possible to stalk you?
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
from fftogo
MVB: yes, it is, but be warned, I get to stalk back! :-)
- Robert Scoble
Sounds like a new podcast: "Stalk Back! with Robert Scoble"
- invariant - farewell FF
Already stalking you... then it was easy and I hope you appreciate it ! ;-)
- Benoit Cazenave
Hahaha... Stalk me all you want. I'll be home this week and either NYC or BFE, AL next week depending. Yuo also have my number and my email addy... Want a street address? =o:)
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
from fftogo
Kevin: I'm not sure, I believe it updates anytime you use something new. I do not push it to Twitter.
- Robert Scoble
Really friendfeed? You don't say...
- sofarsoShawn
MVB, I would never stalk Robert via email or phone :) Would just pop into his IM or just post something incredibly interesting here. Btw, I've used 456 applications - I even not sure I actually did :)
- Sasha Kovaliov(.com)
What I want to know is what kind of Google doc you were working on for 40 seconds.
- Davis Freeberg
Davis: I am not sure. I have a bunch of things in Google Docs.
- Robert Scoble
Scoble I see Outlook on your list. Thought you were a mac user?
- Ryan Stanley
Created a Wakoopa account, still need to install the tracker on my mac.
- Kevin Whalen
In the .com era those were called spyware, in the Web 2.0 it is called social software discovering. Man, Web 2.0 is the biggest spin machine ever invented ;)
- Jeremy Chone
Jeremy: the difference between spyware and this stuff is I get something in return for sharing my data and it's also voluntary and transparent. Everyone can see I'm doing it. Spyware was put on machines without users' consent and sent data to secret places for harmful reasons.
- Robert Scoble
I started using Wakoopa recently and found my software usage pattern which i never thought of looking at before.
- ashish
Robert: Agree, I was just being sarcastic (my French half). I can see the use of this for people that like to share (I don't, my French half again ;).
- Jeremy Chone
Eric Schmidt, Larry Page and Richard Branson http://www.flickr.com/photos...
Man, I would love to KiteSurf like Richard Branson ;)
- Jeremy Chone
RT @Socialtext: "Finally! Practical Tips to Get Rid of E-Mail" by @Ross. Digg away! http://ow.ly/6tOa
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@Socialtext haaaaaa, please, do not get ride of email today, I still have couple to send. Tx.
- Jeremy Chone
Done with revamping and deploying Proximic's corporate web site http://www.proximic.com/
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Looks great!
- Jeremy Chone
FriendFeed might become the Twitter for geeks. Not bad place to be. There are about $2M of us http://siteanalytics.compete.com/techcru...
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That shows FriendFeed has nearly 1M visitors in the month. It does not indicate users.
- Louis Gray
@Louis Gray, Agree. Lately, I was skeptical about FriendFeed, but I think that the new Twitter like UI (much simple) plus the extra features, make it a nice alternative to Twitter. Also, it makes is a much more affordable acquisition target.
- Jeremy Chone
A few days back I posted that Twitter (my silo, anyway) felt more like college whereas friendfeed felt like grad school. Your observation (FriendFeed might become the Twitter for geeks.) might have seemed harsh coming from my lips, but you're right. The value of tech information here is, for the most part, much higher than I find at Twitter.
- Bob Young
An Apple-Twitter Deal would be like the Oracle-Sun one: Interesting but scary.
And much less likely.
- Louis Gray
@Louis Gray. Agree.
- Jeremy Chone
Arrington says friendfeed has no one on it. Not this again! Heh. :-)
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+1
- K.D.
Seriously, are we gonna get trapped by this again?
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
Didn't we go through this a few weeks ago?
- LPH™ and his dog P™
I was just thinking about this.... I wish Friendfeed would allow me to update everything as easily and as intuitively as Twitter does... then I would ditch Twitter.
- Daniel Zarick
My eye roll, let me show you it.
- Rochelle
Arring-who?!
- Diego Barros
=/= p
- ElijahBailey-Zu of FF <0,
Instead I use Twitter to update everything on a regular basis and hardly ever interact on FF. My family watches my Twitter updates to keep up with everything I do when we can't always talk. I wish I was able to do that with Friendfeed...
- Daniel Zarick
Arrington again? *long sigh*
- Mo Kargas
+2
- Wayne Sutton
I just opened friendfeed for the second time in 6 months. Twitter web user.
- Chris Wallace
Hmm. I wonder why techcrunch auto-posts to ff then?
- Shivanand Velmurugan
I guess I can quit "liking" any techcrunch articles over here since no one will notice.
- John Spyers
++Shivanand
- Amber, Random Time Lord
Been on it a long time, but rarely visited it until today... Still have a lot to learn. Glad I have a smart guide [you] for this journey. Thanks Robert.
- David Damore
Sorry Santiago, Arrington won't see this. We are lowly to him. We are not worthy. We are not the elite. He doesn't mix with people here.
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
Well, to my knowledge Oprah's not. Maybe that's what he means.
- jcunwired
Daniel, set up a private room and invite your family, you can have a perpetual, live updating thread.
- jcunwired
What basis does JJ Arrington base this opinion? ;)
- Rick Bucich
I'm here, you're here. Wayne Sutton is here. Who else do they need?
- Schneider Mike
Not enough people? What the hell does it want to use it for, a news source, a social network, a log of his friends, the world census? If it doesn't meet his needs then it doesn't, but if he's trying to use it for something other than what it is...
- xero
I'm here :)
- atanas
Little does he know
- TheHenry
Jesse Newhart says we're the "cool kids", that's good enough for me. http://ff.im/2jgoJ
- Sharon McPherson
Arrington needs a hobby. I recommend he try jumping off a pier.
- Steven Perez
I think I'm going to change my name to "no one" so he can be right for once ;-)
- Jesse Stay
I wish I could "like" comments haha. Jesse, that was cheesy, but good. :)
- Daniel Zarick
Hm. If Twitter is everyone, friendfeed is no one, then what's Facebook?
- Jason Nunnelley
"No one" is a variable number somewhere between 20k and 60k users in Arrington's vocabulary.
- rob friedman
On the Friendfeed login page, under the "Testimonials" tab, there is one by Arrington.
- Vijayendra (V-Mo) Mohanty
Not sure what he means, but the right people are on it :)
- anna sauce
Humm. I guess you can't see through rose colored glasses
- Keith Barrett
Some people base decisions on popularity and others on quality. Is Arrington in the former camp?
- Missionary Broadcasting
TechCrunch must have lost some subscribers eh?
- AJ Kohn
Everybody knows all the cool people are over on Myspace.
- jcunwired
Maybe she was following the people from the recommended followers list. Many of them are never even on friendfeed. It's time that ff add some new people to it. Like Mona, and Kol to name a few.
- Michael Fidler
Why does anyone care what that douche says?
- CW™
So I take it that FriendFeed will have one only when Britney Spears signs in...
- Nir Ben Yona
I prefer to be with a few interesting people than with many noisy & boring people :P
- Stanislas Jourdan
Awwww don't worry... He's just still pissed his Geocities account is going away. He worked haaard on the blinking text and animated GIF files...
- Johnny Worthington
Mike misses the FAILWHALE yep it's twitter only...
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Arrington is pretty much detached of whats really going on.
- Amit Morson
Mike's street cred is slipping if he really believes FF is a ghost town.
- Bernie Goldbach
I think he is probably talking about relative scale. I really enjoy the way FF can be organized, but to be blatantly honest, its biggest fault might be "the new social toy" in a user fatigued marketplace.
- Patrick Boegel
"Challenge" might be the better word (doh! world) over "fault".
- Patrick Boegel
It does not benefit Mike for us to be here. Therefore, we are not here.
- Louis Gray
Go easy on him, Scobleizer. Not every A-lister is as prescient as you.
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
Most hard core bloggers and Arrington et. al care about one thing: traffic generation. Nuff said.
- coldbrew
Thanks for the mention, Michael. I've said before the suggested list could perhaps have some changes. Sure some of the most popular users are good choices, like Robert, but some aren't great examples of the service, i.e. users who pump RSS imports from their sites without any native FF activity to speak of. Mr Arrington being one of them. ;-) Kinda funny as one of his posts for his favourite services or most used services for 2009 included FriendFeed. That made me chuckle. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
I think his 15 minutes are up.
- Brian Sullivan
One time in third grade a boy and a girl were fighting. Teacher said "why are you doing that?" Boy said "because I hate her." Teacher said "If you hate someone, you should ignore them."
- Derek Pangallo
from twhirl
++ Louis Gray
- Amit Morson
FF is geographically (Bay Area) and niche (tech) focused. If you are an outsider to either of those, FF isn't that welcoming.
- Gary
Well I'm here. Also, this had better not get bigger than my last word thread.
- Mike Nayyar
i wish friendfeed had a facebook invite... i have like one personal friend on friendfeed... to me its more like strangerfeed.
- Wesley Robin Guerrero
Yes Wesley, but my Facebook is full of my friends and to be honest, facebook is now 'just like friendfeed, except without all the valuable stuff'. Yeah i know what that says about my friends:) but FF accelerates my discovery of valuable stuff, and FB is full of the inane
- Paul Moss
He is in denial - again DOH!
- Susan Beebe
Tell him to subscribe to the 20k people subscribed to Techcrunch and see if no-one is on friendfeed ;)
- Nicholas James
+1 Mark
- andy brudtkuhl
+1 Gary. FriendFeed.com is still (and will probably stay) a service for geeks. Its traffic is still below the geek line (i.e. Techrunch visitors/month)
- Jeremy Chone
The fact that Arrington is even talking about friendfeed is great free press and likely pushes people to go check it out. Perhaps he's the "Yang" to Scoble's "Ying" in terms of the Scoble-effect?
- Chris Aldrich
By no one -- he means himself surely -- don't see him here.
- Brian Sullivan
Cool. If everyone and their grandma (and their favorite talk show hostess) was on FriendFeed, all the big boys and girls would be declaring it dead, now, like they're doing with Twitter.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Not sure why people still take Arrington seriously. But I have learned the hard way that critical mass is pretty much the only thing that matters for social networks...
- Thomas Wilsher
The problem isn't that there's noone on ff it's that noone knows anyone else on it.
- Damian Murphy
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