Jeremy Franklin - Comments

FriendFeed is the easiest way to share online. Learn more »

How to root and flash custom ROMs on Galaxy S2 without incrementing flash counter - http://www.techzilo.com/root-fl...

August 16 from delicious - Comment - Like - Share

Rooting and flashing without incrementing flash counter - Jeremy Franklin

@jeremyfranklin "A happy, healthy worker is a good worker. Good for competition too" - that's a bit bigoted against diabled don't you think?

March 21, 2010 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

Kevin (aka ThreadKilla) liked this

Way to take the quote out of context. Full quote "Very simple. Invest in people. A happy, healthy worker is a good worker. Good for competition too." - Jeremy Franklin

43 more comments

That's an even more bigoted response Jeremy. If you're hiring only those that don't have pre-existing conditions you're excluding a very valid workforce. It's not simple. - Jesse Stay

Did I ever say hire? Read closer. - Jeremy Franklin

Jeremy I don't know what you're saying - Jesse Stay

I never said only hire certain people. You are assuming I did. - Jeremy Franklin

So you're saying you won't discriminate against workers during hiring, but once you have hired them, if they aren't healthy, they aren't good? Makes a whole lot of sense. - Jimminy IS Everybody

I am saying invest in your workers. Look at the original quote above. - Jeremy Franklin

What if happy, healthy workers are good workers... as are happy, cared for workers? I also don't see healthy as excluding all disabilities. I think you can be healthy, happy, disabled, and a good worker. - Heather

I still don't understand what Jeremy is saying, and how is this a solution to people with pre-existing conditions starting their own businesses? - Jesse Stay

I'm not sure where the "solution to people with pre-existing conditions starting their own businesses" comes in, but Jeremy's full quote sounds valid to me. If your company invests in it's workers, both in furthering their career skills, training, and also offering benefits such as a good health-care plan and medical leave programs then you're going to end up with happy workers who are... more... - Lindsay

I was typing something but Lindsay said it way better. - Heather

I thought Jeremy's quote was in response to my Tweet about people with pre-existing conditions starting their own businesses. I don't know what this conversation is about any more. - Jesse Stay

I still don't get what this has to do with that. - Jesse Stay

So how is that good for entrepreneurs? - Jesse Stay

How? - Jesse Stay

Ken, is it really? That seems to be the suggested frame of thought, but that is questionable, without seeing it in action. There simply isn't any empirical data to support that sentiment. - Jimminy IS Everybody

Sick people don't work as well as cared for people? I really don't see how it wouldn't be good to care for people's health. - Heather

Heather, define "sick" - my father-in-law doesn't have joints in his knees. Does that make him sick? My mother-in-law has Diabetes - does that make her sick? The new healthcare reform makes starting a business more expensive for them, not less. - Jesse Stay

I still have no clue what this conversation is about though - Jesse Stay

My dad has had knee surgery (both his knees) and spinal surgery. He would be a lot less capable if we didn't have insurance to help pay for those things. My mom takes high blood pressure medication and she would be less healthy without it. I have chronic heartburn, asthma and allergies. I would be much more sick without medication. Health care is how we are more capable, happier, and healthier to be more productive people. - Heather

Heather ask him if he could ever afford to start his own business under this new bill though. If he thought it was expensive to run his own business before this bill, just wait until after it passes. - Jesse Stay

Moot point, he was self employed and never interested in making it a bigger business. Also, how do you know what will happen? There's 4 years from now until anything goes into effect and republicans love to yell about small businesses. I doubt small business owners will be completely ignored. As my situation is, I couldn't afford to work for a small business that doesn't provide... more... - Heather

Heather, never play the "how do you know if" game - once a bill has been passed it's even harder to get it unpassed. Obama sure is hinging his next election on this, though, as are many of the Democrats voting for it. I think it's political suicide, personally. - Jesse Stay

All I'm saying is that it's difficult if not impossible to know how the bill will function if it passes in it's current state or if any legislation will go through after to modify it's effects on small businesses. And all that is based on the assumption you know the details of the bill. I don't and I think few people do. - Heather

Jesse, due respect, the bill does absolutely nothing that would impede someone from starting a business. The employer-related provisions (that they have to offer employees coverage or pay a fee of $2000 for each employee who relies on gov't sponsored coverage) don't apply to businesses with fewer than 50 employees. So, unless you know people who start a business with 50 employees on day 1, that's just a red herring. - Kevin (aka ThreadKilla)

Kevin, do you have a link to where it says that? If that's the case, you're probably right. I haven't had anyone able to show me where the benefits to small business are, though. - Jesse Stay

Don't swaet the details kids - this bill will never be repeales but like Social Security and Medicare and hundreds of ungoing federal programs it will be amended changed revised endlessly at least annually - WarLord

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin... Paragraph 2 of the "Nearly $1 Trillion Cost" section explains the effect on businesses and explicitly states the part about not requiring business under 50 people to insure their employees. - Chieze Okoye

Pretty much every story that covers the provisions mentions the under 50 employee exemption. As someone who has worked for and helped manage small businesses for the past 23 years, I can tell you how it helps small business. In my current company (~25 people) our 2nd largest cost, behind salaries, is health insurance. We've had years where our rates have gone up 20-30 percent because 1... more... - Kevin (aka ThreadKilla)

One final comment, Jesse. I think it's interesting that you were OK suggesting the bill was bad for small business without even understanding one of its most basic provisions. That's kind of emblematic of the entire discussion around health care reform. Opponents have repeated the made-up criticisms that it's "bad for business" or "socialism" or "takes away choice" so often that even smart people like you buy them, when the evidence to the contrary is right there in black and white. - Kevin (aka ThreadKilla)

Might want to read this story, too: http://motherjones.com/mojo... - Kevin (aka ThreadKilla)

Kevin, thanks for that - it's the most thorough article I've seen thus far - Jesse Stay

+1 Kevin. - Michael R. Bernstein

I still don't quite get the whole idea of getting "insurance" for a "pre-existing condition". The very notion of it seems to negate the idea of "insurance" in the first place. I mean, what, is it supposed to become a monthly payment plan at that point or something? How can you insure something that is already broken? It'd be like me wrecking my car then buying insurance after the fact. - Otto

Sam, I think you're letting a semantic distinction distract you from the larger issue. Insurance companies use the "preexisting condition" excuse to deny coverage to *healthy* people and not pay claims for things that should legitimately be covered. For example, people have had claims denied for major illnesses because they "failed" to disclose preexisting conditions like acne. I am not making this up. - Kevin (aka ThreadKilla)

Agreed, and that's an abusive practice that should certainly be stopped. But that still doesn't answer the question of why the law is written the way it is.... because the law doesn't stop the abusive practice, it goes further than that. If the goal of the law was to stop the abuse, then it should be written to do exactly that. - Otto

Hey, it just occurred to me. If the penalty for no-health-insurance is only $750, and they can't turn you away for pre-existing conditions, then it makes a hell of a lot more sense for me to not get health insurance at all, and just wait until I get sick before paying for the insurance. Great way to scam the system, I'd say. Insurance will always cost more than the fine does. - Otto

There's a percentage tacked onto that, so it's $750 or x%, whichever is greater. It's not that easy. - Jesse Stay

Otto, the reform goes further than just outlawing the abuse because in a system like that, policing for the abuse then becomes costly, there are always edge cases, and a *lot* of lobbying effort would be expended on shifting the boundary in favor of the insurance companies (which, in effect, is how we got the current situation). Simpler, and cheaper, to just do away with the issue entirely. - Michael R. Bernstein

Jesse: 2.5% of my income is still less than I would reasonably pay for health insurance. Especially when this plan drives the premiums up. Also, if you look real close (page 336 of the bill), you'll notice that there's no penalties for not paying the no-insurance "fine". It's basically unenforceable. - Otto

Michael: It's not cheaper or simpler. Eliminating denials for pre-existing conditions makes zero sense in the context of insurance. That's simply not how insurance works. Again, I point to the example of me wrecking my car then paying one payment to an insurance company in order to get them to buy me a brand new one. You can't get insurance to protect against events which have already occurred. - Otto

You actually read the bill, Samuel?? *wow* - Roberto Bonini from iPhone

No, I only skimmed the major points that I didn't understand from the summaries. Damn thing is 2400 pages long. Here's the file: http://docs.house.gov/rules... But I tend to find that quick summaries I read online tend to be wrong when I don't understand them, so I hit those points of the bill directly to see what it really said. - Otto

Sam, that's not how insurance works *in a for-profit insurance model.* The key issue here is that the profit motive has always come before the imperative to ensure that people have the chance to be healthy. And that's why our system doesn't work for so many people. - Kevin (aka ThreadKilla)

1. It's "Otto". Come on... 2. There's nothing inherently wrong with a for-profit model or motive. Where it goes wrong is when it becomes over-regulated and the amount of profit margins made so thin by this that the tactics used to create that profit become immoral and unethical. This sort of incorrect behavior by insurance companies is a direct result of over-regulation of the industry in a failing economic period. This sort of continued over-regulation won't solve the problem, it'll only exacerbate it. - Otto

Robert Scoble

I am sitting with CEO of Sonos and he is debating me about which mobile platform they should support next. What do you think? (After iPhone)

July 27, 2009 from iPhone - Comment - Like - Share

mjc, Daniel W. Crompton, Andrei M. Marinescu and 9 other people liked this

Android all the way - Robert Burgin

68 more comments

I say Android too. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

Android! Please! I would be more likely to buy Sonos stuff if they support Android. - Travis B. Hartwell

Great minds think alike lol - Robert Burgin

Zune. - Andru Edwards

WebOS and the Palm Pre. - Jonathan Ezor

What Android phone? - Robert Scoble from iPhone

HTC Hero - Robert Burgin

Palm Pre, then port it to the rest via phone gap. - Luke Kilpatrick

WebOS - Rodfather

As a Sonos user, I can assure him that Blackberry comes after iPhone. What other choice is there? - Michael Krigsman

They should hit Windows Mobile, in all honesty. Just from a penetration standpoint. Of course, I have no idea how feasible that is. But they should definitely go with Android over WebOS so they don't tie themselves to ONE device on the market. - Andru Edwards

@Robert Yeah, it shouldn't matter which phone. Just target the platform.... - Travis B. Hartwell

Android. - Jeff

Michael: blackberry users don't do much other than email. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

Andru: Palm will have more devices out with webOS by the end of the year, I predict by the middle of 2010 every carrier will have webOS devices. - Luke Kilpatrick

Symbian Please! - Peter Kelley

No other platform offers the freedom that android does IMHO - Robert Burgin

However, more important than platform, they should allow the desktop application to play synched music with the Sonos system. Sure, there are technical reasons militating against this, but they should figure it out. - Michael Krigsman

Or Java - Peter Kelley

Yes, Robert. An application written for the HTC Dream/T-Mobile G1 should work on the HTC Magic/T-Mobile myTouch 3G. As for the HTC Hero and other non-Google Android forks, applications *should* be able to work, I think. Not completely sure, though; so correct me if I'm wrong. - Rishabh Mishra (p248)

That is not true at all, Robert. I know many, many people who buy BlackBerry as a consumer device nowadays. The iPhone has changed that perception of smartphones. - Andru Edwards

Robert: hmmm....and Blackberry users do not use Sonos systems? - Michael Krigsman

And in case I didn't make it clear enough, I totally want Android support. - Rishabh Mishra (p248)

Anyway, glad we are having the same debate they are having internally. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

Luke, I know. But right now, there is just one device, with nothing else announced. It makes more sense to go where the users are. - Andru Edwards

Sonos has a cool controller coming out tonight, by the way. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

I had the Curve and my G1 blows it away just my experience though - Robert Burgin

Android. Given enough time, I think the number of andoid handsets is going to radically outnumber all the others. Jus a hunch. - mikepk from iPhone

We Sonos users do not need whiz bang coolness -- we need solid functionality that works. - Michael Krigsman

How about their own? I'd really like smaller, less expensive remote. Also, *any* level of control with a Logitech Harmony remote would be fantastic. - Kevin Fox

I am putting together all of our assets on the new controller right now. Check out Gear Live in 90 minutes for all the news ;) - Andru Edwards

The iPhone controller is excellent: well-designed and makes use of existing hardware so no additional cost. That's superb. - Michael Krigsman

Palm Pre. New apps are hugely popular now. - Jon Winters

Android...duh - Jeremy Franklin

By the way, the Sonos PR mgr. sent me a Sonos t-shirt after I twitter positively about the product. I liked that a lot. - Michael Krigsman

Public API. Let a thousand apps bloom. - Kevin Fox

Palm Pre. - David Chartier

I think it's great that they went after the iPhone first. No flies on these guys. - RobinDotNet

Holden: That's my point. But just because it makes the most sense, doesn't mean everyone recognizes that! They do. Smart guys. :-) - RobinDotNet

None. Ok, maybe Google Android. - Jose Alvear

I took the plunge and finally joined FF just to tell you to support Android. You know in your heart its the least evil of the platforms. - Neeraj Kumar Agrawal

Get him to cut his hardware costs in half so that his stuff is affordable... - Buzz Bruggeman

I second the Public API. It not only would benefit all the phone platforms, but soooo much more. - Ward Mundy

Robert: If you are still with the Sonos team - Please ask when the new controller will be available in other Markets? Australia? Thanks. - Clifford Kennedy

I third the vote for an API. There are some hacky UPNP Apis but a formal API would open up many new apps- - Tom Wentworth from iPhone

Why only one more platform? Seriously, they should do a few. Android and WebOS to start with. - Cyrus Lendvay

I love my Sonos, but can you please ask him why I should get a new smaller controller for $350 when I could get an iPod Touch that does the same thing and more for less money? - Kevin Fox

Kevin - the new controller is something you can leave in a common, shared area, has much better screen resolution, replaceable battery, etc. - Andru Edwards

Andru: Do I need a resolution better than the iPod Touch in order to control a Sonos? If my iPod Touch only has the Sonos app on it, what's the concern of leaving it in a common area? It's a home, not a dorm after all. Lastly, when would it possibly be better for me to replace a battery than to put the controller back in a charging cradle? - Kevin Fox

Blackberry would reach more users. Android 3rd - LANjackal

Kevin, it's not for eveyone, but it gives you the option. I have an iPod touch, and an iPhone, both with the Sonos controller on them. But what if I don't want you, or any other guest, using my iPhone and possibly seeing my text messages or other alerts that come through on those devices? Obviously, those devices can be rich with personal info, that I don't want shared. If I hand you my... more... - Andru Edwards

I concede some of your points. It's also nice to have an integrated bundle with a single-purpose remote. For my own needs (and I may not be the target demographic) I already have a Sonos system and am considering an additional remote. My point is that buying an iPod Touch to be used exclusively for controlling the Sonos makes more sense for me. It's highly responsive, can easily sit in... more... - Kevin Fox

Yeah, I don't know WHY they price is that high - but it is cheaper than the older one, with more features. Also, the older one is going to be very heavily discounted until it sells out, so there's that. One other benefit, which may or may not be attractive to some, is you pick up the controller, and it is ready immediately. No pressing of the home button, sliding the screen, finding the app, waiting for it to connect to network. - Andru Edwards

WebOS: any professional Web developer working today can start developing for it right now, without learning anything they don't already know: HTML, CSS, Javascript. - .LAG liked that

Here are some images of the new Sonos Controller 200: http://www.gearlive.com/news... - Andru Edwards

Zune HD? Xbox 360? - Mike Nayyar

I've had 5 Sonos units for the last 5 years, very very pleased.....it was actually the "THING" that made my change jump from a HTC Windows Phone to an iphone, it was the deciding factor. They were nice enough to offer to replace the controller after my pup got a hold of it: http://www.flickr.com/photos... - Jacob Shea

CrackBerry obviously - Daniel W. Crompton

Android - Leonardo Saraceni from twhirl

I say the Xperian T3 phone is the next big Android release. - Amani

Android. - mjc

Android - prasanna gautam

So what was the verdict? How's that webOS app coming along? :-) - Steve Lemke

Android! (w/ HTC sense) - Clemens Orthacker

Android! - Jeff Watson

I would suggest Android, however choose which mobile OS has the largest market share. - Wayne M

Android. One good open source project deserves another! Since this post originated, a pretty good, independent Android app for Sonos has appeared in the Android Market: Andronos. - Ward Mundy

Android Please! - Jeremy Cave

Phones with an Android operating system outsold iPhones in the first half of the year. There is other software that can take care of the different phone specifications. Andronos is quite good though. - Jeremy Cave

Robert Scoble

I wonder if Mike Arrington will need to make changes to CrunchPad because of Google's new OS?

July 7, 2009 - Comment - Like - Share

Tyson Key, Tudor Bosman, Nir Ben Yona and 37 other people liked this

CrunchPad looks pretty similar to Google's OS, very simple, very web centric. I wonder how Google shipping netbook OS will affect Arrington's plans? - Robert Scoble

72 more comments

Are there pics of the Google OS? - Jeremy Franklin

Mike is gonna bring out the first Google OS powered hardware ? - Swaroop

Geoff: yes, but maybe CrunchPad 2.0 would shift because of it? - Robert Scoble

I don't think the compelling feature of CrunchPad is its OS - it's the form factor. He won't lose anything by putting it on the CrunchPad as soon as it's released. - Matt M (inactive)

hmm, thought that u have 2 plug into the USB and doesn't have much memory on its own? I may be wrong cuz I didn't get much info. - polou/indigo_bow

I am looking forward to both launching. CrunchPad has a great form factor as well. We haven't seen anything from Google OS yet. - Louis Gray

Swaroop: I doubt it, because CrunchPad needs touch features. - Robert Scoble

well it will be open source, so I wouldn't be surprised if the innovations flow both ways - my understanding of the crunchpad is it is also based on Linux - so you might see features merge between both platforms... - Shannon Clark

Shannon: yeah, I wonder if the CrunchPad OS could be ported to the Google OS? If so, that could be a big win for Mike. - Robert Scoble

Robert: Browser == Java script == Capture Mouse movements == Integrate with Crunchpad hardware ? - Swaroop

I bet it could, because CrunchPad OS is built on Linux and I bet it won't take much porting work to move it to Google OS. - Robert Scoble

@All - May be Crunchpad emulator on Google OS :) - Swaroop

crunchpad is silly and only gets press because its Mike Arrington's baby. - Zac Bowling

Robert - my point is that potentially as well Google may be porting features from the Crunchpad - the beauty of OS platforms... - Shannon Clark

Ah, I do like crunchpad much better perfect 4 my Canadian-ness eyes. - polou/indigo_bow

Zac: I disagree. I want a CrunchPad. It looks interesting to me as a coffee table computer. A poor man's Microsoft Surface. - Robert Scoble

In any case, I bet Michael's time spent on Crunchpad just went from 75% to 100%. Or at least it should. Getting caught slacking while an opportunity awaits is no good. - Sam Dodge

Zak from the photos & features descriptions, I'm pretty darn interested in buying a Crunchpad - seems like a very useful formfactor and device - Shannon Clark

my initial reaction is: "do we need another OS?" even more to the point, Chrome browser is still quite a ways from done (mostly plugin problems) and i've not seen a lot of progress in this area. my suspicion is that the OS will go the same route. big splash on the easy 80%, but slow going on the remainin (difficult) 20% i remain optimistically skeptical. - MikeAmundsen

I'm pretty sure I'm going to pick up a freelance gig just to purchase a Crunchpad. If only to support Mike and his team as they take a huge leap from reporting on tech to making tech. - Sam Dodge

Robert: Curious to what's on the coming monday. - Swaroop

Swaroop: I can't tell you until Monday. - Robert Scoble

Robert: *Waiting...* - Swaroop

OS define by Google isn't really an OS at all its like going 2 7-11. Anybody agree or disagree? - polou/indigo_bow

Oh, you are a tease Robert! Do tell, we won't pass it on, promise! ;) - Technogran

I think that Google Chrome OS lowers the barrier so that a lot of other companies can deliver their own pads. As such it is not a great news for Mike but it also validates the vision so may be a competitor might be interested in acquiring CrunchPad - Edwin Khodabakchian

Robert: We won't let Google index what you say. nofollow - Swaroop

Edwin: will CrunchPad ship with a "Google inside" sticker on it? :-) - Robert Scoble

Time to market is everything.... - Chris Reichow

Robert would they need a chip maker lol - polou/indigo_bow

Robert: we had something like CrunchPad inside TI when I worked there a few years ago. not a resistive touchscreen but it was pretty cool. concept device to pitch the OMAP processors to the hardware vendors we designed in house. Nokia bought into it and created the 770, N800, and N810 devices from that tech. - Zac Bowling

man i hope he uses it on the crunchpad instead! - sean percival

With that form factor, it needs a wacom tablet and windows 7. - Rodfather

I think that the bigger opportunity for the crunchpad is to enable other media companies (not Techcrunch) to buy the technology and create their own pads (everyone wants to replicate the Kindle model for their own content). The problem of Google OS is that it slice the Crunchpad in the middle. - Edwin Khodabakchian

Mashable have an article on: will Google kill Windows? http://mashable.com/2009..., seriously, we need more competition not killing them off!!! - polou/indigo_bow

Rodfather: I disagree. There's a new opportunity to get rid of installable software and go completely with Internet platforms. That's why CrunchPad, Jolicloud, and Google's OS are so interesting. - Robert Scoble

Google won't kill Microsoft. They don't need to. They need to open up new opportunities. - Robert Scoble

Robert: I am still scared to put personal data out on the cloud. Is it time already ? - Swaroop

Robert they need to use cloud, therefore still would not solve the problem of storage. - polou/indigo_bow

I still want the option :) GoogleOS will run on anything. So it'll naturally make it there. - Rodfather

They do not need to kill Microsoft but they need to change the terrain of the fight from search to productivity apps and OS and they are doing a good job at it. - Edwin Khodabakchian

Edwin, I disagree, what is interesting about the Crunchpad is delivering a form factor that is better for many people than the Kindle (or at least a much better price point) I'm going to get one to use for lots of digital reading. Swaroop - pretty much all of my personal data is already in the cloud - and more secure there than on my computers in an earthquake zone - Shannon Clark

is there the reason why there r SSL ways 2 purchase or other ways to keep data safe @Swaroop - polou/indigo_bow

@Shannon. Form factor is cool but that is a pure hardware business, mostly outsourced to asian manufacturers and very thin margin. The software is where the barrier to entry and business models will be. - Edwin Khodabakchian

Shannon: My confidence is shaken when a lot of personal data/docs get exposed due to flaws in software. We just need a "skynet" kind of bot to auto check for vulnerabilities. - Swaroop

@edwin the software is open source - which means that anyone can use it. the margins, though thin are real if you do hardware right. Sure outsourced, but high design & a competitive price can equal very large sales so small margin still equals decent profits (and sustainable business) - Shannon Clark

@shannon: so do you mean that Google Chrome OS will not reduce the barrier to entry for companies wanting to create their own XXX pad? - Edwin Khodabakchian

no I mean the Crunchpad & the GoogleOS are both based on Open Source, so the competitive advantage of the crunchpad is hardware design, not software (as far as I know from what I've read) - Shannon Clark

polou/indigo_bow: Yes data transfer and storage could be encrypted. We need better identity management too - Swaroop

yup current identity identification issues r not my favorite, OpenID not all perfect even though I am a big fan of it. Its so hard to work with, grrr @swaroop i could say more but thats all 4 now. - polou/indigo_bow

unless they have already licensed some of the patents covering the more popular touch idioms using GoogleOS would give them a broad-base multi-touch API to work with that has deeper pockets to fight the patent battles - bear (aka Mike Taylor)

well this may sound strange - but I suspect more than a few patents could (potentially at least - I'm not a lawyer) be invalidated by prior art in the form of movies like Minority Report (and likely other earlier but less popular SF series & movies) which showed multitouch type of interfaces - Shannon Clark

more copyrights problems cuz of the mighy $$$. that left the big boys again, isn't it? - polou/indigo_bow

No mention on price...I wonder if google will go for the free + ads model. Imagine ads running on the desktop, along with annon. usage statistics, how much more will google know? - Thomas Hunsaker from Android

@thomas why assume they will run ads in/on the OS - I'd guess that like Android they offer it for free (or for a very marginal cost) to OEM's, bundled with a bunch of default links to Google properties (esp Google search as default) and profit from expanding the number of people & devices connected online. Add in revenues from selling cloud based packages such as Google Apps for Domains and they make money w/o ads on the desktop or privacy issues - Shannon Clark

Thomas: why wouldn't Google Chrome OS be free? - Robert Scoble

Thomas: You would have it Google Chrome OS Beta under Google Apps. And yes there will be a lite version where you can only run a single process :) - Swaroop

Great discussion. I think Mike should not adopt Chrome OS for crunchpad to begin with. I don't even think Chrome OS would be polished by the time he plans to launch crunchpad. I think Crunchpad launch could set the bar and direction for what Google Chrome OS should/could be. In terms of usability, we still don't know how Google Chrome OS could play out. I think different initiatives such as Chrome, Crunchpad and Jolicloud will help this ecosystem,. - Akshay Dodeja

I'll get a CrunchPad only if Chrome OS is in it - Hendra

CrunchPad and ChromeOS are fundamentally distinct, seeing as they run completely different browsers (Firefox and Chrome, respectively). They will be able to share apps, though, as Google has stated that apps will work in any HTML 5 browser. - Vezquex

Vezquex: why is the CrunchPad limited to Firefox? When I saw the CrunchPad I saw nothing that would limit it like that and that dependency, if it exists, is probably easily worked around. - Robert Scoble

Robert - my guess is that as Firefox is one of the only browsers currently available for Linux that is what Vezquex is thinking - however with this announcement I suspect we can guess that Google will be announcing Chrome for Linux rather soon (which likely means for Mac OS as well) - Shannon Clark

maybe he was in on the big secret and crunchpad is the first device running chrome os? - Servaas Schrama

Thought I read the crunchpad has a webkit browser ... Not firefox - at least not by default. - Jonathan Greene from iPhone

I agree with the browser as the OS but why would I want a pad that I have to lift my knees up to see when I can have a lap top that I can tilt the screen to fit any position I fell like stretching out in? The price point is going to have to be low, low, low for this form factor to take off. - Stephen Pickering

Scoble, Why you want to discuss this, when we have other worries. Running adobe in chrome, UI etc - Michael_techie

Hello…? reality check. Is there a CrunchPad on the market? Is there a $249.95 CrunchPad on sale? Quit talking of it as it it were a done deal. It it anything but, and the promiseware may yet end up in TC Deadpool before it has shipped a single unit. Takes a bunch of geeks on FF to discuss implications of porting "CrunchPad OS," hell, emulating it even, on Chrome OS, before either has passed into the domain of the real. - ianf ⌘

@Shannon Clark [suspects that] "more than a few patents could (potentially at least - I'm not a lawyer) be invalidated by prior art in the form of movies like Minority Report (and likely other earlier but less popular SF series & movies) which showed multitouch type of interfaces." - you are confusing Hollywood with Real Life, which I suggest you get a dose of, the latter. - ianf ⌘

It's all Linux, and I suspect that crunchpad if it even has an OS uses it too. Swapping out one Linux for another is relatively easy if you've got the source and the hardware information. <3 the Linux Virus, an OS that runs on almost all known hardware, and even as a x86 BIOS for instant ON. - rob friedman

@dodeja "I think Crunchpad launch could set the bar and direction for what Google Chrome OS should/could be." Puuhlease...get real, what have u been drinking? - Hendra

I wish Mike luck with the pad but it's just not the right form factor for me, just a little too big from what i can tell. My ultimate would be like a 6" screen. With a device this size you have to decide if you are going to finger or thumb type. Anything in between is going to be awkward. - Keith James Designs

actually no. If a work of fiction depicts an innovation (especially stuff like UI) that could certainly be prior art. The point of a patent is to be INNOVATION - prior art, even in fiction, is just that - earlier examples of someone else having the same idea. And in the case of Minority Report - a LOT of people contributed to build those interfaces & design ideas - see http://www.lukew.com/ff... - Shannon Clark

Shannon, you win. Please be sure to report back here (minority- or majoritywise, either will do) on any patent application contesting case, where fantasy GUIs cooked up for film-clarity reasons –it's never an easy thing to show off on a cinema screen– are entered as exhibits of "prior art," therefore either invalidating, or denying a patent. I'll wait by the computer until next Tuesday, do we have a deal? - ianf ⌘

Robert Scoble

How much faster is the new iPhone 3GS? It keeps up with friendfeed's realtime feed and the old one didn't. My son noted that 3G web pages are a lot faster too.

June 20, 2009 - Comment - Like - Share

AJ Batac, Alfredo 亜瑠布れっど, Loren Heiny and 28 other people liked this

On the non-iPhone site? - Obayoo

37 more comments

Yes - Robert Scoble

Can you make a video because not all of our feeds are as fast as yours. - Jeremy Franklin

I just wish there was more to it feature wise, or else it would be a no-brainer upgrade for me. - Obayoo

Just about everything - from reboots to app launches to page loads etc, is much, much faster :) - Patrick Jordan

When you say it can keep up with the realtime updates. Are you testing this in Safari or through some sort of Friendfeed client? - Alex Knight

Alex: Safari. I don't like any of the clients. - Robert Scoble

I am on the standard site with my 3GS and it is rocking!!! - Drew Lucas

I am loving my new 32gb black 3GS ... the S really does mean Speed!! :) - Susan Beebe from BuddyFeed

Yes, it does. Really like the 3g s. - Jeremy Franklin

Robert - Wifi or 3G when you were testing? - Alex Knight

BuddyFeed is much better on the 3G S than the 3G - LPH™ and his dog P™

I'm a bit surprised at how much faster it is. It chews through every app I've got. - Bryan Bartow

I just downloaded a new app and it was installed in only a few seconds ... wow - Susan Beebe from BuddyFeed

Alex: both. Battery life seems just slightly better but I need more days to know for sure. - Robert Scoble

The battery life on mine seems the same -- - LPH™ and his dog P™

I'm getting slightly better battery life on my 3G with just the 3.0 update. I was hoping the 3GS would have substantial battery improvements though. - Alex Knight

Battery life test posted in FF room earlier - http://ff.im/4ehnW - Mike Bracco

One of the many impressive ways it's shown off its speediness to me was on app updates. I had 12 waiting for me when I synced the 3GS first time to my Mac. I never, ever let it try to 'Update All' on the 3G because it usually took a long time just doing one at a time. Yesterday I gave it a go with the 12 updates - just over 1 minute - boom - done. - Patrick Jordan

How are you accessing FF on the iPhone (I have a 3G)? What's your recommendation? - Scotty Perkins

Scotty, BuddyFeed is the best app for the iPhone so far. AlertThingy is coming along nicely. - LPH™ and his dog P™

Scotty: I am sitting on my couch talking with you on my iPhone just using the web browser (Safari) set to the standard FriendFeed site. I refresh often. :-) - Robert Scoble

LPH: I have BuddyFeed and love but today I was typing a long comment and got a call in the middle of it and then when call was done my message I was typing was completely gone...I don't understand how the app would not save the message in that case...absurd! - Mike Bracco

Do any of the iPhone apps do real-time updates yet? - Jesse Stay

Mike, I've had similar things happen. I've lost pictures that way too ... - LPH™ and his dog P™

LPH: yeah seems like a huge design flaw, I guess I'm so used to apps on iPhone just working so I was really surprised by behavior. - Mike Bracco

Excellent, thanks. Will try those. I'm still getting my feed under me with FF. - Scotty Perkins

Jesse - don't think so, if you mean any of the native FF apps and FF real time updates that is. - Patrick Jordan

Try Google Earth - which was barely usable on the older models. It screams on the 3Gs - benefits from the CPU, gpu, and ram improvements - it's more responsive than my MacBook pro (though obviously I have a much larger screen on that). - Robin Barooah

This is great news. I can justify buying one if it's substantially faster than the 3G. - RobinDotNet

Robert: I have a 3Gs since yesterday. I did not have the old 3G but sometimes I grabbed my friends' ones. I can tell you is faster and that the 's' is a good descriptor. - Eduardo Loyola

Did you mean OS 3.0 or OS 2.x on the 3G didn´t keep up with FF realtime feed ? - ɯɥøq sɐɯoɥʇ

It blows that you have to go to the regular FF site to get the realtime updates. The iPhone site is much better adapted to the size of the screen but you still have to refresh. Do you think this is because of speed concerns? - Wim Mulder

Wim: yes. Realtime was useless on old iPhone. Even on new one I keep it off most of the time. - Robert Scoble

Is there a concern that developers might start building apps that won't work/are too slow with the older models? - Obayoo

Obayoo: that almost is a certainty. Games, my son says, are much better on the new hardware. - Robert Scoble

Jeff Atwood posted a link to a great video from the iPhone Blog that compared side by side the 3g with the 3gs and it was pretty well twice as fast. - travispuk

I turned Wifi off yesterday after the first 2 hours of usage and then proceeded to use 3G the rest of the day for all data and forgot I wasn't on Wifi... Fast is an understatement, however I'd like to see some side-by-side speed tests for 3G vs 3GS. Not convinced just yet that folks need that "S", the more efficient OS could be adding to the speed... With that said, provided I un-brick... more... - JR

iPhone provides me tools for work and leisure that have me very excited about modern (social) media. - Dave Blankenship

Jesse Stay to Jesse's feed, STAY.am - Social Technology And You

I'll be broadcasting in the next few minutes at http://www.ustream.tv/channel... - come chat here on FriendFeed:

June 12, 2009 - Comment - Like - Share

Louis Gray, Brandon Mendelson, Joe Dawson and 8 other people liked this

Come watch and discuss here on FriendFeed to discuss the Facebook Vanity URLs - Jesse Stay

107 more comments

Fabulous..now where are you? - Suburban Oblivion

I'll be on shortly. I'm finishing my cake and ice cream from my daughter's b-day. - Jesse Stay

For now talk amwongst youwselves - Jesse Stay

Ahhh..thought maybe we were just to enjoy the view of the countdown through your monitor. Is there such a thing as living vicariously through someone's online life? Deep thoughts for a Friday night. - Suburban Oblivion

i want cake and ice cream! - Allen Stern

Allen come on over and you can have some! - Jesse Stay

Yep - Suburban Oblivion

Yup. - c.a.j.

It is fine. - wwwdeveloper

Distortion. :( - c.a.j.

too loud! - wwwdeveloper

good for me. - wwwdeveloper

good - wwwdeveloper

Plz don't take this the wrong way---this is one of the geekiest things I have ever seen. I mean this in a complimentary way. Wow. - Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)

Pouring my glass of Pinot Noir now, Jesse - headed over to join you. Thanks for hosting. You de man. :) - Mari Smith

The Aerobics sound track adds to the vibe..big time! - Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)

Envy! - Michael McKean

Any one know what the Facebook URL is that shows the countdown? - Antoniu

http://www.facebook.com/usernam... - Michael McKean

Thank you. - Antoniu

No, I'm not listening. - Ken Sheppardson

crap - did I miss this? - Jannifer @wordsforliving

So exciting - Mike Hartman

@Jannifer: Not yet, it's in 6.30 minutes. - Antoniu

First I've heard of it - Mike Hartman

Someone needs to start hosting antisocial media events, that's more my speed - Mike Hartman

Stuck in front of a computer on a Friday night...ugh...oh well - Jeremy Franklin

I'm sure - Mike Hartman

See, if it was 8am here I wouldn't be able to do it - Mike Hartman

I'm going to see if I can get "Jesse" - Ken Sheppardson

So's Mike - Mike Hartman

^-- kidding - Ken Sheppardson

Ohnoes the world is going to end! - Antoniu

but full name is better for me anyway - Mike Hartman

Wow, it let me in to get mine when you were still around 20. - Mike Hartman

AH HA HA HA HA - Mike Hartman

My guess is folks are going to squat on stuff. - Ken Sheppardson

(Guess they got sick of you complaining about Jesse being taken) - Mike Hartman

http://facebook.com/kshep. Duh. - Ken Sheppardson

http://www.facebook.com/jeremyf... - Jeremy Franklin

That's odd that it doesn't bring up a page. - Ken Sheppardson

I have a four-letter name and Facebook requires five letters. Fail. - Antoniu

http://www.facebook.com/mike... - Mike Hartman

shelisrael - Ken Sheppardson

I was kidding. I wouldn't mess around. This is the biggest non-event since the twitterpocalypse earlier today - Ken Sheppardson

1938media's available :-) - Ken Sheppardson

I'm sure. - Ken Sheppardson

I did the same thing, got her name locked down - Mike Hartman

There's no way you can do more than one, right? - Ken Sheppardson

they said not - Mike Hartman

go leet - j3ss3 - Mike Hartman

Well, I got kshep... would like to just grab kensheppardson too... hm... - Ken Sheppardson

I have a vanity url I can use but not the one I really want. Curse you Hartmann luggage and your concern for typos!! - Mike Hartman

Did you do that on *her* account, Jesse? I don't seem to be able to change mine now.. - Ken Sheppardson

How do you change it? - Ken Sheppardson

I'm pretty sure the blog said you can't - Mike Hartman

Yep. Yer right, Mike "Think carefully about the username you choose. Once it's been selected, you won't be able to change or transfer it." - Ken Sheppardson

Which is odd - you'd think the primary id would still be the existing numerical one, so why would it be so tightly coupled you can't easily change it? - Mike Hartman

i.are.catholic - Mike Hartman

katholik - Ken Sheppardson

popehat - Mike Hartman

better yet, popemobile - Mike Hartman

I kind of want that one now myself - Mike Hartman

catholic.schoolgirl? - Mike Hartman

That's got to be pretty high on the keywords - Mike Hartman

Aren't baptists a subset of protestants? - Mike Hartman

Just wondering why there were two different "we ares" - Mike Hartman

My brain just tried to intepret your facebook apps as a venn diagram and crashed - Mike Hartman

baptistas is available - Mike Hartman

urgh - Mike Hartman

You need to exploit the fact that you run all these "opposing" pages/groups by posting something that starts some kind of flame/holy war. People will sign up in droves. - Mike Hartman

http://www.facebook.com/pages... - Jesse Stay

Couch it like a membership drive. - Mike Hartman

Jesse Shill 1 - "Let's show them how many of us there really are" - Mike Hartman

Jesse Shill 2 - "We can't let them think they're in the majority, can we? They'll think they're right!" - Mike Hartman

foodporn is available? Shocking! - Mike Hartman

HAH... http://www.facebook.com/friendf... - Ken Sheppardson

someone should get rule32 - Mike Hartman

LOL KEN - Allen Stern

I love this music. "Pahty stahtah!" - Mike Hartman

facebook.com/identica is still available - Ken Sheppardson

facebook.com/flickr is still available - Ken Sheppardson

facebook.com/lastfm is still available - Ken Sheppardson

I can see why they wouldn't let you just create a ton of pages/apps and give them all names, but 1000 followers seems like a pretty high bar. - Ken Sheppardson

You need a "we are atheists" just to play fair - Mike Hartman

If I were you I'd probably shoot off an email right now to Facebook with the URLs you'd chose for apps like SocialToo, and point out that the name is available as of the time you sent the email. - Ken Sheppardson

You'd think that for the apps they would give # of users equal weight to # of fans - Mike Hartman

Jesse, I confess that I hadn't joined SocialToo until this evening, but now that I have, my Facebook page is available via both the http://www.facebook.com/johnebr... and http://empoprises.socialtoo.com/ URL (for my blogs). Nice! Now that I've joined, I definitely want to check out the Twitter auto-unfollow feature (Twitter auto-follow doesn't really interest me). - John E. Bredehoft

Yep. facebook.com/friendfeed should go to the FriendFeed app... not some unrelated user. - Ken Sheppardson

I don't understand why they have a minimum letter requirement anyway - Mike Hartman

I heard someone joking how it would be funny if Twitter got fail whale because everyone was tweeting about facebook - while facebook stayed up..haha - Mike Bracco

Re: SocialToo, go here, Jesse: http://www.facebook.com/help... - Ken Sheppardson

Just checking out the help page here - http://www.facebook.com/help... - Ken Sheppardson

Mike Bracco, see Louis Gray's tweet http://twitter.com/louisgr... - John E. Bredehoft

John Bredehoft: Thanks for reference. that is classic haha - Mike Bracco

I don't know if this is a squat or legit, but the displayed name for http://www.facebook.com/guykawa... is "Jack Johnny" - John E. Bredehoft

Thanks guys! - Jesse Stay

on a side note, http://www.backtype.com/ is amazing. If someone mentions my full name in FF I get an email within a couple minutes referencing the comment. Really great tool for monitoring. - Mike Bracco

Loic says he got is 4 character URL? - http://twitter.com/loic... - Mike Bracco

Mike, yeah - I wish I could get stay if he can have loic - Jesse Stay

what about.... facebook.com/superduperfacebookdeveloperpimpdaddydeluxe ? - Jeff (Team マクダジ )

Sweet do I get a prize for helping you with the name? :) It does have a nice ring to it though. - BRҰANSAҰS

BTW - "All Pages created after May 31, 2009 or that had less than 1,000 fans on that day will be eligible to claim usernames on Sunday, June 28, 2009." - Ken Sheppardson

sweet got mine. http://facebook.com/bryansays bryanlee was already taken. Typically asian name :) - BRҰANSAҰS

What a FUN FUN FUN night!!!!! http://facebook.com/marismith = my bright shiny new FB URL for my fan page. (same as /mari.smith. Periods make no diff, eh). And got /maris for personal profile. Wonder if that 5k limit will get lifted like @Scobleizer said couple months back. - Mari Smith

Great to see you tonight Mari! I'm hoping on it. I'm getting closer to the limit. - Jesse Stay

Are we going to go through this again on June 28 when all the new users and <1,000 follower pages get to pick names? :-/ - Ken Sheppardson

Thanks, Jesse!! You are a social media leader my friend. :D - Mari Smith

Jesse Stay

I'm starting a new podcast tomorrow. I need help deciding on a name - please discuss here:

June 7, 2009 - Comment - Like - Share

Alfredo 亜瑠布れっど, Kol Tregaskes, Susan Beebe and 11 other people liked this

Well, hello, Jesse! What's the podcast about? - Jolie O'Dell

189 more comments

The StayCast - Allen Stern

I have Stay N' Alive, of course - Jesse Stay

My personal brand has been The "Social" Geek - I own socialgeek.tv, so that could be a good one, but it could get confused with Social Geeks - Jesse Stay

However my Ustream channel has been http://ustream.tv/channel... - Jesse Stay

I also own SocialMediaCast.com - that would limit it to Social Media only though, and not sure I want to go that direction - Jesse Stay

Or, I also own JotMob.com - I've always thought that was a cool name - Jesse Stay

Should I Stay, or should I Go - DJ Stevie Steve

If you want SuperDuperNet.com - it's all yours! ;) - Jolie O'Dell

What is it about? - Jeremy Franklin

Hey Jolie! Nice to see you here. Yes, it's going to be a focus on Early Adopter technologies, Social and Real-time web, and whatever we feel like talking about essentially. :-) - Jesse Stay

Right on - the cool stuff. ;) - Jolie O'Dell

just you or you & guests? (could do something like a play on "stay with me") - Shannon Clark

Louis Gray will be on the show with me tomorrow - it may be a regular thing with him. We're still discussing details. The local Salt Lake Fox News Tech Reporter, Kirk Yuhnke, who just got a new Palm Pre is going to guest tomorrow. We'll be bringing in more guests on future podcasts. - Jesse Stay

I like Shannon's "Stay with Me" but unfortunately that does not reflect the purpose of the podcast - Vinko

Stay Around Podcast - Jeremy Franklin

I'll broadcast each one live on http://ustream.tv/channel..., and we'll release a nice recording at the end of each week. Tomorrow will be an interesting first run. - Jesse Stay

I have been kicking around the name "appdeavors" a discussion forum around applications and other technology adoption for creative problem solving. If you like it and can put the domain to use earlier you can have it. - Rob Jensen

I'd leave the pun aspect out of it, tbh. - Jolie O'Dell

one small suggestion - whatever you decide to name it, record a short bumper with the name, URL etc (potentially sponsors when you get them) and be sure to lead in and/or close with it so that the file itself always has that info in it - podcasts which just start up without a quick intro can be hard to refer back to if you are listening to a bunch of things in a row (or if they get crossposted somewhere) - Shannon Clark

Rob, interesting. I'm still trying to figure out the full focus. I'd like it to be kind of a bridge between the technical and less technical audiences though, which is sort of what I do on my blog. More than anything, I mostly want to just have fun and keep it relaxed, to the extent it's still entertaining. - Jesse Stay

Shannon, that's why I'm recording - I'll be using GarageBand to put something interesting via audio together. If it's video I'll also be recording it all in iMovie so we can make it either a video or audio podcast. I agree, intro is important. - Jesse Stay

What time around is it streaming? - Jeremy Franklin

Jeremy, I'm shooting for around 8:30pm MST tomorrow. I'm still getting confirmation from all involved though. I'm going to post all confirmed details on StayNAlive.com shortly. - Jesse Stay

Of course, the other idea is to brand it with the SocialToo brand and do kind of what DiggNation is doing. - Jesse Stay

Since you previously mentioned this on Facebook, I've been thinking that Stay N' Alive may have its own issues. For people who have never heard of you, the first thing that they will think about when they see that name is the Bee Gees song. - John E. Bredehoft

Looking forward to more information and sounds like a great project. Branding through SocialToo is an option however if you are going to have rotating seats for guests it sounds like it could be more confusing to me. - Rob Jensen

Perhaps another route might be to create a new brand by emphasizing your first name, which would add a personal touch to the podcast, and combine it with your expertise. For example, "Jesse's Face." Or something. - John E. Bredehoft

John, I'll be hosting, but I'd like to allow the others on feel as much a part of it as I am though. For instance, Louis Gray has an open invitation to attend each podcast he wants to join, and if it has my name I can't give him as much credit as he deserves. - Jesse Stay

"Nama Stay" - Josh Haley

Swaying with Jesse Stay! - joebrooks

What about "The Social Geek"? - BRҰANSAҰS

A better idea, if you can live with having one show without a branded name. Set up some type of contest (perhaps using a prize of a book as an incentive) to solicit a name. I'll grant that's what you're doing now, but perhaps the contest, rather than just soliciting name ideas, could require the participants to do something creative to submit their entry - create a Facebook page for their proposed name, for example. - John E. Bredehoft

He Josh, I like that - Jesse Stay

Bryan, I'm edging towards that - there is already a "Social Geeks" podcast though, which might become confusing. I've already got everything set up for TheSocialGeek.tv though if we go that way. - Jesse Stay

What are some of the topics of your podcast? - BRҰANSAҰS

The Best Geek Show EVAR! And BestGeekShow.com is totally available - Jolie O'Dell

Bryan, tech in general, but mostly early-adopter technologies. Tomorrow we'll be talking about the Pre and WWDC - Jesse Stay

Jolie, hmmm... - Jesse Stay

I'm all about superlatives, Jesse. ;) - Jolie O'Dell

Not available any more :-) - Jesse Stay

Jesse but what will be the hook that separates you from the ton of other geek podcasts. Just curious. - BRҰANSAҰS

oh wow, srsly?!? Yaaaay! - Jolie O'Dell

Jolie, still not sure if I'll use it, but at least I can now :-) - Jesse Stay

Bryan, hopefully quality of guests, focus on early adopter technologies, expertise and knowledge of the industry. For now I'm doing this for fun, so I guess it doesn't matter until we really want to compete. :-) - Jesse Stay

It's a good domain to have. I'm out to work on more RWW posts - have a fun night! *hugs* - Jolie O'Dell

Jolie, enjoy. I've got a post or two I've got to do as well. I'll talk to you later. - Jesse Stay

Keep the ideas coming though! - Jesse Stay

Geek Trends - BRҰANSAҰS

Sid, appreciate that. I'm trying to avoid locking us into just talking about Social Media though. I own SocialMediaCast.com so we could use that if we wanted to go that route. - Jesse Stay

Stay Awhile - Ⓒⓗⓡⓘⓢ Ⓟⓘⓡⓘⓛⓛⓞ

Marmalade - Bwana ☠

New Media Innovators - BRҰANSAҰS

FFundercats - Ken Sheppardson

Oh, wait... no... - Ken Sheppardson

Funk station - Bwana ☠ from IM

Might not work for a podcast, but if you ever do a half hour sitcom about growing up in the 50s, you should call it "Leave it to Stay" - Ken Sheppardson

Queens of the New Age - BRҰANSAҰS

Hey Ken I like that one - FFundercats...maybe I'll use it :-P - Jesse Stay

The Juice - Bwana ☠ from IM

Bryan not sure that one will work :-) - Jesse Stay

Who would you talk to about licensing "Should I Stay or Should I Go?" for a theme song... - Ken Sheppardson

Ken I'm not sure, but that would be an awesome theme song. Or Lisa Loeb's "Stay" - Jesse Stay

Stay Awesome - Bwana ☠ from IM

Stay Classy - Bwana ☠ from IM

I think Bwana's on a role :-) - Jesse Stay

Stay Awhile - Ken Sheppardson

Stay Real - Jesse Stay

Stay Rhapsody - Ken Sheppardson

Nevermind - Ken Sheppardson

A Stay On Tech - but that sounds negative - Bwana ☠ from IM

the jesse show - Tyler Gillies

Stay on Topic - Ken Sheppardson

The Show With No Name - Bwana ☠ from IM

nonameshow.com is taken - Jesse Stay

The No, My Brother is Awesome Show - Jesse Stay

"Stay out of my Facebook" - BRҰANSAҰS

showthatneverends.com is taken - Jesse Stay

Stay Late... but then you'd have to, like, record it at night. - Ken Sheppardson

BTW ever use bustaname.com for find domain names? Its my fav. - BRҰANSAҰS

bustaname is cool - Tyler Gillies from IM

Sid LOL but then I'd never get Scoble to join us :-) - Jesse Stay

I like Best Geek Show - BRҰANSAҰS

scoble is black? - Tyler Gillies

Bryan, Best Geek Show is in my top contenders right now - Jesse Stay

lol luke - Tyler Gillies

Best Damn Geek Show - Tyler Gillies

My favorites so far: Best Geek Show, SocialGeek.tv, StayNAlive.tv, SocialMediaCast, Jot Mob - Jesse Stay

better buy them before someone will try and sell them to you for $10K - BRҰANSAҰS

Bryan, I own them all already :-) - Jesse Stay

Stay Up to Date - Ken Sheppardson

JplusS - BRҰANSAҰS

Stay Current - Ken Sheppardson

Time to move away from "Stay _____" yet, Jesse? - Ken Sheppardson

Yeah, let's move away from the Stay names for now, unless you think it's *really* cool :-) - Jesse Stay

Well done, Sid - Jesse Stay

Much better - Jesse Stay

This Week in Stay - Ken Sheppardson

Dohh Leo would kill you. - BRҰANSAҰS

Luke, gotta stay away from the Uncle Jesse name - unclejesse.com, last I checked, was a porn site. - Jesse Stay

Yes, bets on how long before we get a Cease and Desist on that one? - Jesse Stay

JplusStay? - Jesse Stay

Stay in the Know - BRҰANSAҰS

I totally need to get that Twitter user @jplusstay - Jesse Stay

Stay On the Air - Ken Sheppardson

Don't Call Me Shirley - Bwana ☠ from IM

Ken that might sound a bit desperate - Jesse Stay

Stay with Tech - BRҰANSAҰS

Frontline - Ken Sheppardson

Stay N Tech - Jesse Stay

See And Say With Stay - Bwana ☠ from IM

Wanna Play With Stay - Bwana ☠ from IM

Ken wins - I'll go with Frontline ;) - Jesse Stay

Another Day With Stay - Bwana ☠ from IM

Fresh Air - Ken Sheppardson

You guys are cracking me up - Jesse Stay

This is gonna put you in the "Best of the Day" on FriendFeed. - BRҰANSAҰS

Stay In The Best Of Day - Bwana ☠ from IM

The Howard Stern Show with Jesse Stay - Ken Sheppardson

Stay You Stay Me - BRҰANSAҰS

Blame Scoble. - Robert Scoble

ROFL yes. Blame Scoble. - mjc

Stay Informed - Bwana ☠ from IM

Stay On Top Of Tech - Bwana ☠ from IM

Robert you win - Jesse Stay

STOT - Bwana ☠ from IM

Dang - BlameScoble.com's taken - Jesse Stay

blame scoble is BS ;) - Tyler Gillies

The StayGang - Ken Sheppardson

STAY = (S)peaking (T)echnology (A)lways for (Y)ou - Bwana ☠ from IM

StayNation - Ken Sheppardson

bwana: bing = ? ;) - Tyler Gillies

Someone Stay - Bwana ☠ from IM

Please Stay - Bwana ☠ from IM

STAY = Social Technology And You - BRҰANSAҰS

Just bought BlameScoble.tv :-) - Jesse Stay

You need to find some permanent cohost with a good name that fits "Stay and ___" - Ken Sheppardson

Stay and Company - BRҰANSAҰS

...what's Christomer Martin up to? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... - Ken Sheppardson

Permanent Stay'n - Ken Sheppardson

I like Social Technology And You (STAY) - Bwana ☠ from IM

Me too :) - BRҰANSAҰS

I like that too - trying to think of a good domain that can go with it though. All the "Stay" domains are taken, and expensive. - Jesse Stay

stay.am? - Ken Sheppardson

stayshow.tv/com/net - Bwana ☠ from IM

staypodcast - Bwana ☠ from IM

Mystay - Tyler Gillies

Staypod Marshmallows ... sorry need some sleep - BRҰANSAҰS

staywith.me - Bwana ☠ from IM

STAY with Jesse - Ken Sheppardson

Marmalade - Bwana ☠ from IM

Twitter - Ken Sheppardson

Stay and the Gang - BRҰANSAҰS

Stay for Free - Ken Sheppardson

free jesse - Tyler Gillies

Stay On Point - Bwana ☠ from IM

I like that one - BRҰANSAҰS

StayCrunch - BRҰANSAҰS

StaySpace - BRҰANSAҰS

Hmmm...I like stayshow for Social Technology And You - Jesse Stay

This one may sound weird, but it does make sense, "Stalk the Web". - Zachary Collins

StayNTalk? StayPod? - imabonehead

Stay Wars - Ken Sheppardson

The Staytrix - Ken Sheppardson

The Stay Report. - imabonehead

Ken, lol - Jesse Stay

Luke, no, Jesse is your nephew - Jesse Stay

Already own jessesgrl.com - Jesse Stay

Jesse's Grill - Ken Sheppardson

Luke no, that would be Uncle Randy and Aunt Becky - Jesse Stay

Well I'm brainstormed out. I think I like some variation on "Social Tools/Technology and You", STAY with Jesse, etc. - Ken Sheppardson

Don't call me Shirley - Bwana ☠

"Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit Twittering" - Ken Sheppardson

...and you could change it every week - Ken Sheppardson

"stay social" - Know the ins and outs of how to stay social online.. Jesse Stay - Jordan Brown

JesseMedia - imabonehead

well, can't help on the name, but please do a episode on how you got this many comments - Beth Kanter

Beth: That's easy... give people an excuse to be flippant and silly :-) - Ken Sheppardson

Beth LOL - it's just the nature of the post. The "discuss here:" does it, along with an opportunity to help name a Podcast. - Jesse Stay

And what Ken said - Jesse Stay

I think the fact that it's a weekend night also contributes - Jesse Stay

Good luck on the new show. I just don't know what subjects you would have tomorrow though ;) - Eric - seven eleven

Also, have 3500 subscribers - Ken Sheppardson

Eric thanks - we'll be mostly talking about the Palm Pre and WWDC. It will be Louis Gray, myself, and a local Tech Reporter who got the Pre yesterday that's going to talk about it. - Jesse Stay

Coolio! - Eric - seven eleven

Woah - do I really have 3,500 subscribers? - Jesse Stay

Or how about JePoday... - imabonehead

Hello Holland here, what's the podcast about? - Debbie

wish comments were timestamped - Tyler Gillies

I agree tyler horrible.. - Jordan Brown

Be sure to take the SocialToo SocialSurvey: http://socialtoo.com/survey... - Jesse Stay

Robert Scoble

I made a promise years ago to never use PowerPoint in front of an audience again. So, how do I organize a presentation? Mind Manager.

May 19, 2009 - Comment - Like - Share

Kathleen Capps, Elliott Goodwin, Daniel Schildt and 117 other people liked this

It's magic. Frees your mind from the stupid bullet list that bores audiences to death. Every time I see a PowerPoint deck my brain turns off. - Robert Scoble

92 more comments

I have used this for years, great communication tool - Mel Buckpitt

i prefer personalbrain. not as easy to use as mind manager but powerful nonetheless. - Daniel Langendorf

Robert, as a former highschool teacher, I can assure you that Powerpoint is the evil enemy of learning...and yet every school insisted teachers started using it because the schools thought PP "was" technology...yikes. Advice? Tell stories with passion and understanding. - Daniel Kenney

Daniel: I totally agree. The way schools teach technology just makes me ill. - Robert Scoble

anyone ever try prezi.com? it's a bit different-- much more visual - Ted Curran

So instead of Powerpoint™, use a real presentation platform that allows interactive data and tactile response to both you and your audience. - Eric Martindale

i have been working on a new keynote /powerpoint method I can - Ted Curran

PowerPoint is only a problem in that it makes it way too easy to just make lists of bullet points. They almost force you to go down that path. If they could somehow turn that off, and just provide the functionality to create a series of slides, each of which had a line or two of text, an image, etc... I don't think it'd get such a bad rap. - Ken Sheppardson

*call "Attention Method"-- it's a way to use PPT or Apple Keynote not in the way the program wants to be used but in the way people's minds work - Ted Curran

similar to other software noted is my favorite.. Big Mouth - Daniel Kenney

What makes Mind Manager the first platform to come to mind? I have never heard of it until right now. - Amani

I agree Daniel Kenney :( - Mohammad Abdurraafay

Amani: I saw Buzz Bruggeman give a talk with it and was mesmerized. - Robert Scoble

Try Prezi, and if you have some time to devote to it, Keynote. Both are really pretty impressive. - Ivan

I came across http://prezi.com last month, worth a look. It has sort of a tv commercial look, like the 2-d Ford pickup commercials. - Tanner Powell

I kind of like Prezi too. Very visual. Depends on the situation I suppose. - Kim Feraday

Keynote. - Jeremy Franklin

I don't want to get into a PowerPoint bashing thing here, but I agree it's bad. Another thing I've noticed is that the boring speakers usually have the most elaborate PP presentations. Yikes. - Christopher Harper

I'm a big fan of MindManager as well. Once you're done conceptualizing your presentation, Powerpoint (or any other presentation tool) can obviously be used as an effective tool. Powerpoint isn't innately evil, it's just too easy to miss-use. If you want to try a different tool give sliderocket.com a try. (but I'd stick with Mindmanager) - Jason Goldberg

Well that's two programs I had no idea existed 15 minutes ago. - Dean Clark

Do you use iThoughts iPhone app? I use it every day and they just upgraded to allow Mind Manager export - Dave

Prezi is too difficult to learn for anyone - it is supercool but if you want to get right down to working, forget it - I wish I could use it - for mindmaps to me nothing beats MindMeister both for presentation materials as well for organizing ideas and tools - it is much easier and immediate than any other mindmapping tool I have tried, including having a full revisions history, working... more... - Robin Good

In the end the vote of PowerPoint chastity should really be targeted at avoiding making the "types" of PowerPoint slideshows that are so bad. Bad choice of images, too much text, and you reading them as you show them. It is not the tool so much, but the culture we have built around it. Whether with PowerPoint, Keynote, Sliderocket, OpenOffice or GoogleDocs the power of your presentation... more... - Robin Good

I wholeheartedly agree with you..PP is horrible! I refuse to use it and I've made a point to reject ppt files that colleagues send me with slides re design changes. I'll have to give MindManager a try..sounds great. - Sufian Siddiqi from fftogo

Prezi does look cool. I definitely need to take it for a spin. - Alexander Grundner

Chalk board & elaborate hand gestures - sofarsoShawn ~presque...

The issue with powerpoint (and keynote) is that the flow of the presentation is completely locked in, and the presentation environment is unchanging. Mindmanager (or Freemind) allows branching, and the ability to store extra content for questions (only use as needed). Powerpoint or equivalent is good for building a screen when you want one that can dynamically build. An alternative way... more... - Alistair Nicholson

I used to use Thebrain.com personal brain for the same purpose. I stopped when I moved to multiplatforms (Mac and linux as well as Windows). I just checked back at the site to find that it is now available cross-platform (haven't checked that the data files are yet tho). I might be remaking contact with an old friend! I liked the easy way one could use local files or web resources. By... more... - Alistair Nicholson

@alistair: It is possible to branch PowerPoint -presentations with hyperlinks that jump from slide to another. Never considered it, but interesting idea. For example, after determining audience level, it could skip slides that explain basic things for experienced audience. - Jemm

I like Mind Manager. Wish i had a reason to use it. - Rodfather

Mind Manager rocks on a tablet pc - Mel Buckpitt

Definitely. That was the last time I used it. It integrated with OneNote well too. - Rodfather

Check out the free pptplex from Office Labs which is an add in for PP that gives you a similar zooming interface as Prezi. http://www.officelabs.com/project... - Jamie

Alistair: That is exactly how I use PersonalBrain. I have it set up in Dropbox and am able to access it with any computer. It's worth a look-see again. It's also worth using to flesh out ideas for presentations, too, no matter what tool you end up using. - Daniel Langendorf

Use Prezi at Prezi.com! ;) or sliderocket.com - Csaba Mad

I am adoring Prezi - just the freshness of the look gives you a 50% boost in new biz meetings, and I really haven't found it at all hard to learn to use - Jamie

Last week i was thinking how lame PP is and actually did a presentation at college bashing it. The tool i've used for that was Prezi.com, the one mentioned by a lot of ppl in this thread. You should give them some love, definetely a great worth a look tool. - Diego Sana

I got tired of trying to find the perfect presentation technique and ended up developing my own http://mlx.netii.net/templat... not perfect, but it works for me. - MLx

Daniel & Jemm - thanks for that. I've just installed personalbrain on the Mac and opened some old brains done in the PC (aahh nostalgia). I really missed it as a tool. I've been using freemind, which does have some very good features, but personalbrain is still a better tool for this sort of work. Thanks. - Alistair Nicholson

Jemm - in some cases I will just generate one or two slides using ppt or similar. By exporting them they become individual objects that I can mix and match - or call on as I need, without having to consider how to jump to them within the powerpoint package. Powerpoint (or keynote) then becomes a graphic slide authoring tool that just generates some components or objects I use in my... more... - Alistair Nicholson

I have presented for many years with MindManager. Its great for interactive presentations. Tomorrow I will use it present to a conference of independent financial advisers on the subject of mind mapping and mind mapping software. I humbly suggest they will remember my hour more than the 5 other hours of PowerPoint. This is web version summary. http://twurl.nl/24rzyv - Andrew Wilcox

Final Cut...create a video! - Michela Cimnaghi /cimny

Powerpoint is a time sink - whenever I have had to use it I ended up using more time fixing the presentation than focusing on the message. Can't remember which company took powerpoint off the systems and said they measured a productivity increase... or if it is a digital legend... but from my experience I can believe it. - Iphigenie

"It's a poor workman who blames his tools" -- old proverb - Karim

Meh. Powerpoint is a tool to put stuff on screen. As long as you're not just reading off it... - Yuvi

Just convert powerpoint slides into pdf and present pdf to the audience.Although I am not a great fan of PDF or for that matter any powerpoint like software. - Ashish

ashish: you're not getting it. There's nothing worse to do to an audience than to present a standard powerpoint deck to them. The format is NOT what makes that boring. - Robert Scoble

Robert: Flash is the answer but it's a pain to learn and expensive to outsource, but that's the answer I think. Besides that, Mindjet MindManager is a fantastic peice of software - Brandon Hall

You're right, it's not the format, nor is it Powerpoint. It is not using it to in an engaging way. - Dennis Beatty

Robert,Sorry for misinterpreting your question. This one is a really tricky question. - Ashish

I often find slides take away from the message - people are reading the slide text instead of looking at and listening to the speaker, and the speaker is looking at the slides instead of at the audience. I wouldnt mind the speaker looking at the screen if he was demonstrating something (or writing, in the old blackboard style) but in a way slides which were supposed to support the presentation end up taking away from it. Too passive? - Iphigenie

prezi is pretty amazing mark. i also use Free Mind but have never used it for a presentation... - Morgan

wishing for 2nd like or something to bump this up higher amongst my likes and discussions - metalerik

dream about it http://mindmappingsoftwareblog.com/ - bonuck (e gli associati?)

I have a talk tomorrow morning at my kids' school about technology in education. I was brainstorming it in Curio and Keynote, but I bought Prezi Pro just cuz it looks so cool. It's a little quirky, a little buggy, and not as flexible as, say Keynote, but it sure is a unique look. Mindmapping + Presentations. - Leo Laporte

Nothing wrong with Powerpoint, it's just a tool. I do just fine with it and Keynote. Sounds like it's a presenter issue if you're bored - Bwana ☠

I love mindmanager, but its license is toooo stupidly and insanely expensive!! - Mohamed Salem Korayem

yeah I love using xmind for organizing talking points but I don't normally use them to present - most audiences don't grok them ime - mike "glemak" dunn

I'm sorry, trying to learn. I have a 30 slide presentation (+-10) that i present to customers around the world usually in a room of about 10 people. What could Mind Manager do that PPT isn't doing? - Surprisingly Monstrous

For everyone looking to learn more about using MindManager for presentations, I have written up a number of posts on the Mindjet blog that talks about how to do it, some best practices and sample maps. The most popular post in the series was from PresentationCamp SF, "Become a Presentation Superhero": http://blog.mindjet.com/2009... while other posts covered using images, colors, and fonts within your mind maps. Check'em out or contact me if you have questions! - Michael Deutch

thx michael, bookmarked. - Surprisingly Monstrous

ah, michael good to see you here - for those who don't know him michael is mindjet’s chief evangelist & one of the hardest working community engagement folks on the net - i use xmind because i test lots of open source tools but have been a customer of mindjet for years & love mindmanager :) - mike "glemak" dunn

Yeah thanks Michael, I've been wanting to see some examples/how-to's about using MindManager for presentations. - Justin Hopkins

Actually I spoke too soon. I'm curious to see some video of a person "giving a talk with it" like you said Robert. Do you have any recordings of some of yours of the Buzz Bruggeman talk you mentioned? - Justin Hopkins

I find using a Mind Map a lot easier for people to follow and sparks a lot more collaboration from the group. - Jim Lavin

Robert try Prezi:http://prezi.com/ - Dean Kakridas

If you hate Powerpoint, Robert & friends, then you have to check out Edward Tufte's essay "The Cognitive Style of Powerpoint: Pitching Out Corrupts Within." It's brilliant. And the cover still cracks me up: http://tr.im/lXjv - Alan Mairson

Funny thing for me is that I've always made fun of PP style presentations and have been known as someone who really gets groups interacting, etc. (check out this clip of a game I led at Seattle Mindcamp -http://tinyurl.com/qjathj) BUT, just recently, I've discovered that for my type of improvised, interactive, often scattered, creative style --powerpoint is actually a good (much needed!) balance. So I've been upping the KeyNote. MultiModal is the way :) - Leif Hansen

Robin Good: great comment on MindMeister.com - present.io is a very interesting app to keep track of, if you are doing a lot of online presentations. I use Skype screen share (Mac) for Coaching and presenting ways and methods to use applications. - Jan Friman from Nambu

How about having a standard cheaper version of mindmanager. I dont use all the awesome features version 8 - Mohamed Salem Korayem

Jemm and others - I'm back having been in the most boring presentation today that I have experienced in a very long time - powerpoint slides of the most horrible structure, plus given over a video conferencing tool where the presenter didn't read any of the questions in the typing area! Thebrain has a free version. What I've found is that because I use tiddlywiki (also free) to organise... more... - Alistair Nicholson

just a quick reaction to the person who suggested video - what can video add if you are there in person? - Iphigenie

@Joelle a video is a way to engage the audience and let the main messages be reminded. Your role there is to give the right introduction to the video and then open and manage the discussion after it. People will partecipate more to teh discussion. That's my personal experience by the way! - Michela Cimnaghi /cimny

Robert, I agree & use MindManager for presentations, as well as various project information summaries, trying to stick to a "one sheet" philosophy for reports. One of my pet peeves is presenters who read the bullets on a PPT. Yikes! - Rick Cogley

Joelle (thanks Michela) another use of video is short interviews or contributions. For example case studies with a manager from the customer explaining their problem, a business analyst explaining their technique around a specific problem, a web designer talking about how they 'imagine' the personality of a site, demonstration of an experimental technique with a patient. It creates... more... - Alistair Nicholson

I also meant to draw attention to Lief's comment about multi modal and how sometimes a powerpoint slide can present the underlying structure or main points of the presentation. I still believe there can be a place for dot points - so long as they are not the sole content. I believe there are few that would suggest Steve Jobs' presentations are boring, for example. Always worth a watch and they can be found on youtube. Other exemplars are the top rated talks on TED.com.It gives me something to aim for. - Alistair Nicholson

FreeMind is very useful and Open Source. Give it a try! - Nicola Junior Vitto

just got into Amode 4 project mgmt. same company @MindSystems. imports @MindJet. - Courtney Engle

IMHO, my best tool is a whiteboard, and second place, a notebook with squares to plan a sort of storyboard. When I switch back to analog planning, I started to get my best results back on PowerPoint (I love 2007 version). Cheers, - Rolando Peralta

Wow, what a great thread! I explored some best practices for presentations and wrote the following posts on the Mindjet blog. They could apply for any type of presentation but they're primarily focused on mind mapping...The first: 10 Steps to Great Presentation Maps -- http://blog.mindjet.com/2009... - Michael Deutch

Next, How to Make a Great Presentation: Mapping Your Content -- This one applies to using mind maps to 'think through' your presentation content, regardless of what tool you select for the actual presentation: http://blog.mindjet.com/2009... - Michael Deutch

Your use of colors will impact the audience. Use them well! The Secrets of Using Colors in Maps - http://blog.mindjet.com/2009... - Michael Deutch

What’s a Picture Worth? Here's a post about incorporating images into mind map presentations. http://blog.mindjet.com/2009... -- I saw an interesting tweet from Andrew Wilcox earlier today where he suggested placing large images inside 'topic notes'. - Michael Deutch

Prezi reminds me of microsoft photosynth. - Ashish

And finally, here are a couple of posts about fonts in your mind map presentations: 10 Fixes for Font Foibles! (http://blog.mindjet.com/2009...) and More Fun for Font Fanatics (http://blog.mindjet.com/2009...). - Michael Deutch

michael: constructive suggestion - you should setup a mindmap group here on ff so these suggestions can be feed in separately and others can participate, they're just going to get lost inside this thread... - mike "glemak" dunn

Wow what a great discussion. I have never heard of Prezi before and I will have a very imortant presentation to one of MNO next week. I prepared with PP, but now consider to do from scratch via Prezi.com. Thanks guys! - Jacque

Robert, do you have anything that you can share that you've used Mind manager for? Do you actually use it in presentations or do you use it as a thought organizing tool? Thanks for answering if you have the time! - Gregg Morris

i was blown away by a preso done in prezi.com. tried it out, the UI takes some getting used to, but w/ patience the zoom in/out approach yields great presos. worth checking out some of the demos. I saw a preso done w/ it that all took place inside the dot of a question mark (that was the reveal at end of preso). cool. - Adrian Chan

re. TiddlyWiki: should I mention, that there's also a true presentation version?... http://ow.ly/8vMH - schilke

Or you could emulate Carrot Top and use props from a great big trunk. Problem is you need to be a) really pumped up and b) certifiably nuts. - bob corrigan

Schilke - thanks for the link to tiddlywiki presentation version. I've bookmarked that and visited the example. With tiddlywiki each 'tiddler' has a specifically adressable URL so that pages can be individually linked from mindmapping software. That way a complete subtopic can be created as a 'deck' but not invoked in the presentation unless we choose to go there. Back to the 'horrible'... more... - Alistair Nicholson

A cool MindMapping alternative is XMind. - Martin Seibert

Daniel Brusilovsky

Hello from Verizon MiFi! Airport is off - MiFi is on! This thing rocks!

May 19, 2009 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

Can you post a speed test? - Jeremy Franklin

MG Siegler

Beard has almost moved beyond itchy stage. Didn't really intend to grow a beard, just forgot to shave.

May 13, 2009 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

Jay Cuthrell, Johnny, Jeremy Franklin and Roberto Bonini liked this

Sir... http://friendfeed.com/jworthi... - Johnny

me too - Jeremy Franklin

Shannon Clark

anyone missing the last 40+ mins of Tweets?

May 13, 2009 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

Yes. - Michelle McCormack

well good that's it not just me - bad that Twitter died (Idol?) - Shannon Clark

yes - Jeremy Franklin

Leo Laporte to Leo's feed, TWiT Conversations

Live now: This Week In Tech - volunteer edition. Call in via Talkshoe +1-724-444-7444 or visit http://www.talkshoe.com/talksho.... Watch at http://live.twit.tv. Or Discuss here...

May 10, 2009 - Comment - Like - Share

Kevin Stith, David Imielski, William Kapes and 26 other people liked this

:D - Phillip Stewart

734 more comments

I am the first hahaha - Charbax

first - ralphsaunders

Woot - Arawak

hehehehe - ralphsaunders

you peeps were fast! - Phil Essing

fail ralph - Matthew

I won - Charbax

Evening / Afternoon all - Simon Wicks

Hello Leo - Matthew

hey Leo - Roberto Bonini

So happy you didn't write "first", Charbax - Phil Essing

Tweeted MobileJones for ya' in case she's not tied up with Mother's Day 8) - Web Pixie

This has potential to be really good, but also for disaster... only time will tell. *crosses-fingers* - Chris Heath

wtf ... matt i swear i was first a few seconds ago - ralphsaunders

Hello Leo. - Molly Song ;)

There are like 12 different chat rooms for this live show - Charbax

whats the embed code >< - ralphsaunders

Hello Leo , all - Richard J Placide

ralph... i refreshed and phillip stewart is first, you're third after charbax - Chris Heath

how about this story? http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadl... - tamahome

i know chris, but when i posted i was first lol. i Think friendfeed got a bit confused :P - ralphsaunders

i built a recumbent bike in 1997... it was from scrap pieces of ten speeds... - Chris Heath

The new Kindle - Molly Song ;)

The Kindle DX was announced this week - Jim Lavin

Friendfeed is better than twitter - Charbax

No Twitter promised before show start. :P - Phillip Stewart

where is teh friendfeed room for twit? - earl wallace

importance of the ARM processor - Charbax

Thumbs Up for Alex Lindsay on TWIT. - Justin Luey

twitter and friendfeed were down, although twitter was planned - Matthew

earl, this is the room - Chris Heath

I hope Louis gets his Skype to work. - Molly Song ;)

aha found yall! - earl wallace

hmm idk about that. - ralphsaunders

http://friendfeed.com/twit-co... - Phil Essing

LOL @ Leo saying "..gonna do very little social media today"....oh wait...he's serious? - Devon Blugh

I should finally go see Star Trek today. - Phillip Stewart

Star Trek was great - Matthew

Poor Louis - Molly Song ;)

Hello all - Shelton Ivey

embed code - http://friendfeed.com/twit-co... - ralphsaunders

Feel free to help edit the episode page in the wiki: http://wiki.twit.tv/wiki... - Phillip Stewart

I trekked across my backyard to see the stars last night....does that count as Star Trek? - Devon Blugh

thanks Ralph - earl wallace

:)# - ralphsaunders

I'm nervous about this episode. - Lise

zephyrlily: not sure what you mean - Phil Essing

lol all that and it was the skypeasaurus - Chris Heath

Leo is amazing with just 2 arms. Think he needs 2 more though :) - Richard J Placide

leo, could it be the soundboard? - Chris Heath

Wasn't the input on zero? - Daniel Rowley

Leo I thought this would be kludgey but it is quite cool - earl wallace

echo123 thinks I can talk - Louis Gray

zephyrlily: yeah, it should be real-time - Phil Essing

I am a mute! - Louis Gray

I love to watch a pioneer at work, I'm learning so much by watching him troubleshoot his setup. - Jim Lavin

Now it's not :). - Daniel Rowley

louis, it was leo, skypesettings on his end... - Chris Heath

Aww poor Louis - Molly Song ;)

you can pop out an item. click on the timestamp to open in its own tab. then click on the timestamp again there in the new tab. - Tony Miller

I'm thinking this could be the one episode that I wouldn't mind missing.... - Shane

Leo blamed his guest for no reason....shame, shame... - Devon Blugh

Whoohoo!!!! - Molly Song ;)

leo, something's still wrong on the soundboard with louis' audio - Chris Heath

we're hearing louis through your bleed speaker into your mics - Chris Heath

Louis sounds off - Molly Song ;)

His audio isn't coming over the feed Leo - Craig Durling

Love Socialmedian - earl wallace

Really, Sam? Hm. - Louis Gray

You guys guide me. I can go up and down. - Louis Gray

I don't think it's you, Louis, I think it's on Leo's end. - Molly Song ;)

Yer, Louis, your sound isn't coming through on the stream. - Daniel Rowley

It is rather like NASCAR... No races on Mom's day... - Mark A. Landers

Not talking this sec. I'll watch this close. - Louis Gray

louis, i think you're coming thru the studio monitor to their studio mics sounds like you're in a tin can far away - Chris Heath

pics = mics - Chris Heath

Leo, Louis's audio isn't coming over the feed, just bleed spkr - Craig Durling

Okay, Chris. I'll let them know. - Louis Gray

Leo, take this opportunity to plug my new SQUARESPACE Web site: http://www.macneurotic.com - MacNeurotic

MacNeutronic, probably not going to happen - Chris Heath

It actually sounds better - Molly Song ;)

Aaah Sound - Chriz

Ah, Louis, sound has picked up now, much better - Simon Wicks

will theis dialogue archive and be available to refer back too. - earl wallace

Now we've got 'em Leo - Craig Durling

i wanna see star trek - Edgar Rodríguez

Sorted now. - Daniel Rowley

@Chris I know :( - MacNeurotic

I'm on Ustream and it's coming in fine - Molly Song ;)

Cool! Volunteer Edition?? - Ken Sheppardson

leo got the audio as you were saying that louis... - Chris Heath

I just switched from Stickam - Molly Song ;)

Phew. - Louis Gray

FriendFeed rocks - Molly Song ;)

They blamed me! (This means war) - Louis Gray

See?! Leo Lies!! - Devon Blugh

I pick Friendfeed over Twitter nowadays - Chriz

How can it not be? - Ken Sheppardson

i've been watching on stickam mainly since teh BG switch... bg just hiccups too often - Chris Heath

Yup, me too, rately visit twitter - Roberto Bonini

If no social media, maybe I should hang up? :) - Louis Gray

I've met some cool people through FF - Molly Song ;)

Need more volunteers? :-) - Ken Sheppardson

Maybe they don't have Mothers Day in Brazil. - Devon Blugh

Mother's Day is a Hallmark Holiday. - Francine Hardaway

If u mean me.. Im from the netherands ;) - Chriz

I get confused with who celebrates Mother's Day and who doesn't :P - Molly Song ;)

Netherlands - Chriz

twit-conversations Brazil - Daniel Wolff from IM

No chance. - Ken Sheppardson

You guys just crash the talkshoe... - Mark A. Landers

God, this sounds terrible. - ralphsaunders

Oh this is not good - Molly Song ;)

See how long TalkShoe stays on... - Louis Gray

He needs to unmute most of them - Molly Song ;)

Yep, pretty bad quality from Talk Shoe - Jim Lavin

this is gonna kill - Gary Gannon

Wasn't GillmorGang yesterday? - Ken Sheppardson

i've yet to hear a talkshoe conference that didn't sound like utter crap - Phil Essing

Yes, Ken. - Louis Gray

Louis: Call quality joke ;-) - Ken Sheppardson

ooo burrrrrn - ralphsaunders

Sam: Usually takes a few days. - Ken Sheppardson

This sucks sorry - Molly Song ;)

Skype just died. Yay. - Louis Gray

Actually, this is the last time there will be two Shuttled simultaneously prepped. - Phil Essing

Fail - Gary Gannon

awww - ralphsaunders

Shuttles* - Phil Essing

I'm off, this is a major fail - Molly Song ;)

no i think he just dropped - ralphsaunders

TWiT 194: Well, that didn't work - Phil Essing

Enough of this! Anyone care about the Vignette/OpenText buyout? - Jon Marks

Skype tends to die every 20 minutes. - Louis Gray

hopefully they all mysteriously get disconected - Gary Gannon

Louis did you forward your ports? - ralphsaunders

I'm pissed as well, I bought the Kindle 2 in pre-release and now the DX comes out. - Jim Lavin

the new kindle would be good if it was the same price. and offer the original cheaper or something - Edgar Rodríguez

They should tell those who just ordered the Kincle 2 that they can wait and get the Kindle DX - Molly Song ;)

ah apple fanboy macbreak opinion - Charbax

Volunteer edition? We're not getting paid? - Louis Gray

ah well - ralphsaunders

The Kindle DX is way too expensive. - Molly Song ;)

Maybe it is a first strike to fill the gap of all of the Newspapers going under. - Jim Lavin

hahaha louis :P - ralphsaunders

Kindle 2 costs as much as a netbook, and Kindle DX costs as much as a cheap laptop... why do people buy Kindles? - Phil Essing

E-ink is awesome - Charbax

I agree kindles are too expensive atm - Richard J Placide

You should check E-Ink out - Charbax

I think they'll go down in price, I hope. - Molly Song ;)

It will get cheaper, technology always does. - ralphsaunders

they don't have a competitor at the moment either. - ralphsaunders

What license are TWiT shows released under? - Phillip Stewart

I dunno why they do...... The DX would be good for textbooks - Roberto Bonini

leo it is bigger. i like the kindle 2 cause is more portable. but the large screen is tempting. - Edgar Rodríguez

We need more competition - Richard J Placide

yeah - will be awhile - Roberto Bonini

Phillip I think they are under creative commons, im not sure though. - ralphsaunders

They should put all the textbooks on Google Books and let people access them all on Kindle for $10 per month and sell the Kindle at $99 with a 2 year contract - Charbax

I'msure Bezos aleady is in talks with the Text Book Industry - Jim Lavin

Thanks. - Phillip Stewart

Non of that is it at all, it's all about Leo having bought one too quickly. - D Lets

Oy. Another chat room, too:-) - Francine Hardaway

TWiT is a call-in show this week? - Chris Charabaruk

I think there will be alot of priacy... infact i think that will be the kindles selling point to some students. - ralphsaunders

Kinda ! - D Lets

Is that wine you guys are drinking ???????????? - Roberto Bonini

Is the Kindle sturdy enough to endure the daily abuse it will need to endure, as a textbook replacement for students? - Phil Essing

Good point, Divya. - Francine Hardaway

phil - ralphsaunders

bah! - ralphsaunders

heh - Phil Essing

Nah you would need Wacom stylus for the Kindle not multitouch - Charbax

What abuse? I'm a student and I can tell you the vast majority of our textbooks stay at home. - Justin Yost

What I was going to say was, it wont be treated like a textbook, its not going to be stuffed in a bag with a load of other stuff all the time. - ralphsaunders

The content creators never look ahead, they wait until they are losing their lunch. - Justin Luey

its hard to look ahead. - ralphsaunders

The Kindle design is awesome, what's he talking about - Charbax

the first kindle was crap - ralphsaunders

the kindle is the worlds best selling E-ink reader - Charbax

By far - Charbax

I wish my BB Bold had glass instead of this stupid plastic. - earl wallace

Ok, another question: at $500, e-textbooks would have to be significantly discounted in order to recoup the investment. - Phil Essing

kindle 1 on the left - http://www.mikesquarter.com/wp-cont... - ralphsaunders

well, that was not really a question, was it? - Phil Essing

The first kindle is awesome, about 500 thousand people love the Kindle 1 - Charbax

Kindle is the most popular already. - Charbax

by far more popular than Sony reader and other competitors - Charbax

Yes but the cost of books on the Kindle are usually a lot less, which makes up for the cost of the Kindle - Jim Lavin

Have you bought a college textbook lately, I spend minimum $500 a semester for books. - Justin Yost

phil, a student could easily download a pdf of the textbook over the internet. the DX is a really good opportunity in that sense. - ralphsaunders

Sam Davyson: Agreed. I still prefer to read a real book. I don't imagine myself curling-up in bed with a Kindle - Phil Essing

So this is the first comment thread I've seen is functioning as a real time chat room. - MacNeurotic

The larger kindle is about 2 things: 1)more money for textbook people since this will kill used book sales and 2)killing campus bookstores -- which more and more are owned by Barnes and Noble, an Amazon competitor - jccalhoun

I'd love to see something that is more accessible for people with disabilities like visual impairments. I liked what the Kindle was doing about the audio until the Author's Guild had to get in the middle. - Molly Song ;)

MacNeurotic, FriendFeed is a great platform for live events. - Louis Gray

I don't buy feeds on Kindle - Francine Hardaway

The elctronic books for the business school here are about half the price of the actual book. - Justin Yost

mac, get used to it, its the future :P - ralphsaunders

There you have it $19 per month for 2 years, and you could get the Kindle for $199 - Charbax

How soon until my skype dies again? I say 10 minutes. - Louis Gray

college textbooks are soooo expensive... if I were in school now, I'd jump on a kindle for textbooks right away - Landor Associates

I love the idea of e books for school - Francine Hardaway

Most students don't buy textbooks from the college bookstore, used or new on amazon. - Justin Yost

And you'd get unlimited books/blogs/textbooks for $19 per month on the Kindle - Charbax

ralphsaunders: sure, but that PDF is not going to be free. Textbooks aren't expensive because of the printing costs - Phil Essing

Sounds like another iFanboy show... - Jim Lavin

lol louis - ralphsaunders

Charbax, I see the informercial now - Francine Hardaway

Agree with Alex there - I do the same on my iPhone - Roberto Bonini

Or the bookstores off campus that tend to be independent stores. - Justin Yost

E-ink is 100 times better than LCD for reading a lot of text - Charbax

Jim - what would you prefer be discussed? - Louis Gray

This is a good show. Really enjoy watching and listening to smart folks. - David Damore

Skip the Kindle DX; wait for a full-colour version (or competitor) that supports comic books/graphic novels, at about $199-299, and you have a world-beater. - Shéa Bennett

Phil, if you go to the right places PDFs are avaliable free :) - ralphsaunders

until the Pixel Qi LCD comes out - Charbax

Color E-ink will never come - Charbax

@Sheamus... that would be cool. When? - Landor Associates

@Sam Davyson what major? Engineering here, we have to buy pretty much all of our textbooks which are easily some of the most expensive and fastet changing books - Justin Yost

@Charbax: Color E-ink will never come... Really? - David Damore

Sam, there is not. FriendFeed doesn't show a # of logins. - Louis Gray

@Landor Therein lies the question. :) It is coming, though. Remember Tom Hanks' character in Big? He was WAY ahead of his time. ;) - Shéa Bennett

char, didn't they say that about a TB HDD? - ralphsaunders

I buy a book and inside of 2 years the book is out of date. - Justin Yost

Having textbooks with audio would be good for visually impaired - Molly Song ;)

Louis, I just get a little tired of comparing everything to Apple devices, there are a lot more devices out there... - Jim Lavin

taking calls on TWIT is genius! that first call worked perfectly - Justin Luey

@Little Miss Disaster or dsylexic. - Justin Yost

yeah - Molly Song ;)

Jim, I mentioned that myself in terms of everybody thinking they know what's coming from them, but it's been discussed for a decade. I brought up Sony's eReader. - Louis Gray

The Kindle Voice is not that bad... It is listenable... - Jim Lavin

I had a friend who had to scan in his textbooks to be able to read them, he was that dyslexic. - Justin Yost

It's better than the Kerswell computer voice :P - Molly Song ;)

the only way to know how many people are in the FF chat is if they sound off - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

I agree, I've had 4 different EReaders and the Kindle is the best I've used to date. - Jim Lavin

This call in for TWIT will raise TWIT to a whole new level! - earl wallace

Kurtzweil - Francine Hardaway

green text on black... that is 'old skool' - .LAG liked that

So sad, Marley and me. - Francine Hardaway

That would be nice, the library books tend to be too out of date here (Texas Tech University) and our professors specifically do tests that include material only from the books, same thing and a lot of other schools that I have friends at. - Justin Yost

It's interesting that such 'old fashioned' technology like a call-in is still a popular and perhaps pivotal feature for an internet show. - Shéa Bennett

Agree, Shéamus, could be a good feature. - Louis Gray

I love the call in capability, I think this add a lot to the show. - Jim Lavin

And now thy gonna start pimping audible... alex is particularly fond of it - Roberto Bonini

However if you are a liberal arts major you tend to not buy such expesnive books, aka English majors buy books to read, not actual textbookds. - Justin Yost

I'm in the middle of John Hodgman's Area of My Expertise and it's cool. - Molly Song ;)

@Justin Luey Leo tried talkshow on Net@Night for awhile, and I loved it. Always thought Leo should integrate it into more shows. Today it's a TWiT/Tech Guy mashup and it's gold. - MacNeurotic

@Sheamus... it's people communicating.... - .LAG liked that

As a graduate student, the Kindle DX native PDF reader looks great. Sort of regret the Kindle 2 purchase. - Jeremy Franklin

Okay, I'm going for dinner. - Molly Song ;)

I get some of my audiobooks from LibriVox http://librivox.org/ - Phillip Stewart

Good thing I didn't upgrade from Kindle 1 yet. Things will change again - Francine Hardaway

@Jeremy... seems like Amazon pissed off a lot of Kindle2 owners with the DX release... no upgrade deal, eh? - .LAG liked that

I regret the Kindle 2 purchase as well, but like Louis said, sometime you get bit being an early adopter, I'll probably get in line for a DX and give my Kindle 2 to my daughter. - Jim Lavin

Hope this TWiT is a success, I hope he does this more often. :) - Molly Song ;)

Talkshow sounds much better when it is only one person at a time., - Jim Lavin

NOOOOOOO!!!! - Gary Gannon

Star Trek Star Schmeck - Louis Gray

...I have to leave now. Haven't seen Star Trek yet... hiding! - .LAG liked that

I agree, no Star Trek! - Jim Lavin

hehe great film - Roberto Bonini

Yeah, I closed TWiT Live also. :P - Phillip Stewart

i saw it at imax..... - Roberto Bonini

Louis! It was really very good. Read my post. I was not a fan. - Francine Hardaway

I've never seen the tv show, or any of the other films, but i saw the new one last night and really liked it - Simon Wicks

dont do it! it just came out! - Gary Gannon

*cough* http://ralphsaunders.tumblr.com/post... :P - ralphsaunders

Simon, that's what I thought - Francine Hardaway

Chinese guys in brazil LOL - Roberto Bonini

I will read your post, Francine. - Louis Gray

@Louis Gray I'm with you! I'll watch the movie, but I never liked to the TV series - MacNeurotic

louis your internet might drop out anyway :p - ralphsaunders

@Louis Gray, why do you use burnurl in your tweets now? - Matthew

I'm seeing it this week. i love me some star trek - Edgar Rodríguez

The movie was very good. - John D Reasor

You dont need to have seen the tv shows to unerstand the film which is the best thing. You just wont understand a few of the jokes, like i didnt when other people were laughing. - Simon Wicks

Trekkers go to Nepal... Trekkies love Star Trek - Phil Essing

me too - i'm going to see it again - Roberto Bonini

Matthew, BurnURL is a ReadBurner project. The mood mining capabilities will play into a future release. - Louis Gray

And Skype died for me again. Fun! - Louis Gray

someone pls let us know when they stop spoiling it - Gary Gannon

Good timing loius - Roberto Bonini

told yah - ralphsaunders

(I am an advisor to ReadBurner) - Louis Gray

no spoilers... yet - Phil Essing

k - ralphsaunders

fix it Louis - Charbax

No problems, Roberto. I am dialing back in and being ignored. - Louis Gray

Star Trek = LOST? - Edgar Rodríguez

Ha - Louis Gray

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO - Roberto Bonini

Star Trek had tons of Lens Flare - Matthew

Louis, Louis, Louis...Skype is just not your friend, is it? ;) - Josh Haley

Skype always does this to me. Maybe I should upgrade my client. :) - Louis Gray

Louis you could dial back on Talkshoe and he can take you on there - Charbax

Get a PC :D - Josh Haley

talk about John Locke, pretty please - Edgar Rodríguez

@leolaporte "I grow up as a very young kid" LOL - D Lets

Bite me, Josh. :) - Louis Gray

Should I just bail on it and walk away? - Louis Gray

It's annoying that infinitelymeta keeps interrupting others. - Jeremy Franklin

Nooo, dont give up Louis! - Simon Wicks

Stick it out, Louis. It might get interesting ;P - Josh Haley

leo might be upset louis - ralphsaunders

Ring Ring Ring - Louis Gray

I agree, Don't give up Louis - Jim Lavin

i don't like the guy with the netbook. - Edgar Rodríguez

CGI vs using minutures for closeup shots of ships. Meh.... didint notice the difference much - Roberto Bonini

No louis phone http://www.talkshoe.com/talksho... - Charbax

I never once thought about the fact that it was CG - Ken Sheppardson

Back? - Louis Gray

anyroom left to call in - Adrian Izquieta

No big ethical dilema - Ken Sheppardson

That has nothing to do with being a Star Trek fan, that's general SciFi - Ken Sheppardson

Let's talk about sports. - Louis Gray

louis apparently - ralphsaunders

Please mute the guy who is overtalking everyone else Leo - earl wallace

No breathing! - Daniel Rowley

I was holding my breath for 40 minutes! - Louis Gray

JJ didn't write it though - Matthew

He didn't write it - Ken Sheppardson

lol louis - ralphsaunders

...sports on TwiT LG? - .LAG liked that

Sports! - Louis Gray

OK, so... just total spoilers today - Ken Sheppardson

Star Trek !=Tech - Louis Gray

Leo does a great Peter Griffin from Family Guy. - Shéa Bennett

ughh, stilll haven't seen star trek - Adrian Izquieta

you spoiled the red shirt Leo - Matthew

Yeah, you have Leo - Ken Sheppardson

The Red Matter is from Alias! I'm almost sure. It's related to the Mueller Device. The fonts were Fringe-like. - Filipe Rodrigues

Every time you quote a character, you're spoiling it for somebody - Ken Sheppardson

simon pegg is in it? AWESOME - ralphsaunders

BTW, Kirk dies. - Ken Sheppardson

The guys who gav eht last lecture makes a cameo...... - Roberto Bonini

a red-shirt was killed? GD IT! it's ruined for me, now! - Phil Essing

Ken, BURRRRRN - ralphsaunders

I'm leaving. Don't want to be spoiled. will listen to this show after I see the movie. - Edgar Rodríguez

Kirk is still trapped in the Nexus. - earl wallace

No, Kirk dies in the movie. But they gave that away in the trailer ;-) - Ken Sheppardson

Coulda been "Nemesis" - Ken Sheppardson

Spoooooilers - Ken Sheppardson

hey, you stole my webname :P - ralphsaunders

Of course, smart people all over America are asking themselves: who would win a fist-fight, Jean-Luc Picard or Professor X? - Shéa Bennett

Picard...... - Roberto Bonini

Saw the first film opening night. - Ken Sheppardson

Kindle DX: allowing students to keep all the books they’re not going to read in one place. - Daniel Rowley

I got that in the first scene with the USS Kelvin... - Ken Sheppardson

"What was your favorite scene... no spoilers..." BWWWWHAAHAHAHAHA - Ken Sheppardson

Hmmmm... - Louis Gray

hehe impossible to choose :) - Roberto Bonini

My favorite part? Closing credits. - Louis Gray

lol louis - Chris Heath

Lol - Chriz

this week in trek - Jayesh

yeah i agree.. prefer the earlier films spacedock shots - Roberto Bonini

Should I just go grab the kids and put them on camera instead? - Louis Gray

yes louis - Chris Heath

yeah good idea loius - Roberto Bonini

I couldn't believe how they ████████ when the ████████ . And then when ████████ was on the ████████ and ████████ goes over to the ████████ ?!? ███████ing amazing. - Ken Sheppardson

Interesting that despite rave reviews, ST still grossed about $10m less than the mostly-panned Wolverine (which I enjoyed). Wolverine made $27m this weekend, too. You'd think the fanbases would be fairly equal. - Shéa Bennett

wtf - ralphsaunders

lol ken - Chris Heath

Jayesh: brilliant! I think we have this week's title. - Daniel Rowley

i agree daniel - Chris Heath

I'm going to put on a Red Shirt now to get out of this convo. - Louis Gray

don't do it louis.... you've got plenty of life left to live!!! - Chris Heath

Louis you should bring up a topic or they wont stop! - Jayesh

Louis, use a Vulcan mind-meld and get Leo to do the deathgrip on himself. - Shéa Bennett

I should start going Blue Man and bang my head on the video wall. - Louis Gray

Doses not look like they are going to stop.... - Roberto Bonini

THAT MAY WORK...... - Roberto Bonini

Break time - Chriz

55% of homes do not have land lines - Jim Lavin

34% - Chris Heath

5 million - Roberto Bonini

It's a good job Dvorak's not on this week! - Daniel Rowley

Bingo - Greg

hells yeah - ralphsaunders

Ok, that blue man plan b isint needed, loius - Roberto Bonini

'well you've got a live chat stream there so i might as well participate' - Chris Heath

friendfeed is an IRC killer - Charbax

I wouldm - ralphsaunders

I woudn't go that car charbaz - ralphsaunders

I have 4 voip lines and 3 cells..overkill just alittle (: - earl wallace

charbax, irc has tab-complete for usernames... that's a better feature that ff doesn't have - Chris Heath

I think i know which scene Ken is talking about..... - Roberto Bonini

friendfeed will be irc killer once friendfeed activates live filters - Charbax

I thought he said we were catching a break? - Louis Gray

frienfeed is activating live filters within a few weeks - Charbax

and i don't have to keep scrolling down on irc like i do with friendfeed embed. - ralphsaunders

i dunno.... - Roberto Bonini

@Louis He meant from Star Trek. - Shéa Bennett

You could then filter live chats with thousands of participants - Charbax

Ahhh - Louis Gray

SquareSpace is pretty slick! - Daniel Rowley

$15 a mth per domain - Greg

Is the Friendfeed beta online yet? - earl wallace

Damn Skype - Louis Gray

Leo, the problem with Friendfeed is the lack of mobile apps. It would be great to use Friendfeed on the go but I can't use it besides right in front of the laptop. - Sweyn Venderbush

yes - Phil Essing

If any one thing was going to kill IRC, I think it would have already done so in the past 15 years. - Tony Miller

Leo's smooooooth. - Shéa Bennett

wallace, beta.friendfeed.com - ralphsaunders

this was friendfeedbeta then they rolled it out live - Greg

3x - I usually die every 20 minutes - Louis Gray

yeah but the beta went live last week?? - Roberto Bonini

Thanks Phil - earl wallace

earl wallace, you're using the beta now - Matthew

:) - Phil Essing

oh - ralphsaunders

http://www.girlsnightinradio.com - Louis Gray

everyone laughed when the "Madea" actor was on screen - Alex Jordan

ralph, beta.friendfeed.com redirects to just friendfeed.com - Chris Heath

OH GOD! Thats so ugly - ralphsaunders

@Sweyn: Try FriendFeed ToGo -- mobile via Web/wap: http://www.fftogo.com/ - .LAG liked that

YUP - Roberto Bonini

yeah i just realised chris, it seems they made it live. - ralphsaunders

or freindfeed.com/iphone - Roberto Bonini

www.twiplog.com - Roberto Bonini

So, Squarespace is a time-portal back to the mid-90s? - Shéa Bennett

HAHA yeah - Roberto Bonini

Twip as the cupon code... hmmmmm - Roberto Bonini

ralph that switch happened about two weeks ago - Chris Heath

Shéamus: seems so! - Daniel Rowley

I'm offf... bye - Roberto Bonini

SquareSpace a place where the Squares go to play. - Tim Moore

What did they just say, that Squarespace makes iPhone versions automagically? - Colin

@Tim: ouch! - .LAG liked that

20% - Jayesh

colin, yes... their back end is amazing - Chris Heath

I know of it but Lag and Roberto but they aren't native app and they don't have notifications and they are limited by the worst phone browsers. I would like a windows mobile app as there are many iphone apps already. Nambu looks very nice. - Sweyn Venderbush

Wow, that is incredible, great idea... - Colin

Has anyone else seen this? http://www.runpee.com/#app=38..., lets you know when it's best to visit the toilet! - Daniel Rowley

Is it Terraccota that squarespace uses? It's either that or Hadoop that's the super sexy library for java and spreading work across a ton of computers *needs to learn it* - Patrick Sullivan

They should take this survey in Canada I bet this l% is lower - Greg

@LAG you already know... LOL! - Tim Moore

Likely 20% got cut-off in the last year thanks to the economic climate. - Shéa Bennett

i'm just like alex... i only want one number - Chris Heath

Louis uses Skype for everything too ;) - Josh Haley

/blocks Josh - Louis Gray

Why isn't the comment link at the bottom of the thread instead of the top? They should switch the direction of comments if they continue to try and emulate Twitter... - Tim Moore

@Sweyn: good points... FF is just dying for some developer to come along write an iPhone app for it...or Windows mobile, if you must. ;) - .LAG liked that

Phone numbers will be like domain names in 3-5 years. You'll buy one, take it everywhere (cell/home/etc), and keep it for life (assuming you make renewal payments). - Shéa Bennett

I agree Tim - Sweyn Venderbush

If you click on the timestamp, it puts the post in a new tab, where the comment box is at the bottom - Tony Miller

Forget the red shirt Louis, you know which shirt you should be wearing right now...on air...in front of thousands. - Josh Haley

tim moore go here: http://friendfeed.com/twit-co... and scroll to the bottom - Chris Heath

click on the time under the title of the post it will open a comment box at the bottom - Greg

Maybe I should go off video and do that for ya, Josh. - Louis Gray

I much prefer the sound quality of a land line for me and the people I call. - Gregg Scott

DO EET - Josh Haley

LAG there are already a ton of iphone apps but what about windows mobile, symbian, and android apps? Nothing there. - Sweyn Venderbush

Does anyone know when Google Voice will be available to Public? - earl wallace

EyeCheeWahWah!!! @Chris thanks for that. - Tim Moore

tim, just add ?embed=1 to any friendfeed chat url to get that... (or click the timestamp twice) - Chris Heath

@Sweyn: following the money, I suppose... - .LAG liked that

I can't believe nobody has mentioned Star Trek. That movie is HUGE. - Shéa Bennett

yeash.///// - ralphsaunders

The phone numbers available in google voice are USA only and only certain area codes - Greg

@Chris thanks for that info. - Tim Moore

sheamus... how long have you been watching? - Chris Heath

@Chris The entire time. ;) - Shéa Bennett

Google Voice is US only though isn't it? - Gregg Scott

@Louis Gray, what other podcasts do you do? - Matthew

FFUndercats, ReadBurner and others. Social Geeks every once in a while. - Louis Gray

bastards - ralphsaunders

cool - Matthew

@LAG the difference is that the apps for WM are so much more expensive than iPhone apps. The IM+ app is $40 as apposed to $6 or less on the iPhone. I would pay $40 for a good FF WM app. - Sweyn Venderbush

I just dig how I don't have a Kindle, haven't seen Star Trek and don't have Google Voice. Quite the week for me to join... - Louis Gray

I would use Google Voice, but I moved to a different state after I got it, so the old area code # doesn't do me a lot of good now. - Tony Miller

Friendfeed undercats? - Charbax

Darn right .. the USA biggest trading partner shut out - Greg

Don't mock us Leo, it's tough in Canada. - Colin

http://www.ffundercats.com - Louis Gray

@Mathew howdy from Forest City! - earl wallace

Sounds cool - Charbax

well, in most countries, the only things you can't have on itunes is TV and Movies - Jackson Pollock

Louis, start licking the screen and making obscene gestures with your hands. - Shéa Bennett

Whats up Earl - Matthew

Skype desktop phone FTW! http://img25.imageshack.us/my... - Tim Moore

Stop making me laugh, Shéamus. - Louis Gray

@Earl Wallace, in the Queen City - Matthew

I have a US address for iTunes...it's what I cut and paste form the U of W website. - Gregg Scott

Grew up there in CLT escaped in 1999 to the boondocks - earl wallace

I hate reading people Liking songs on FriendFeed. It has no value to me. - Gregg Scott

Also Hulu is a no go but the networks gladly sell their feeds to the canadian networks - Greg

Greg, you can hide any service on FriendFeed. You can block Last.fm and Pandora. - Louis Gray

some bands have official mp3 releases on their websites... i've added a few of those mp3 urls to blip.fm for my favorites - Chris Heath

I escaped for a while, I lived in Boone for about 8 years - Matthew

I thought last.fm stopped that particular paid model *shrug* - Tony Miller

So, Louis, Duke Nukem fan? - Shéa Bennett

I lived in Boone while at ASU for 2 quarters - earl wallace

0-4 - Louis Gray

on beautiful Cape Fear ---> - Chris Heath

seeqpod seems to be down now too. Dead or not-dead? - Doug Slater

Thanks Louis. I actually don't see much of it on FF. As long as a user writes a preamble to give the song context it has value. Just a link is meaningless as would be a TinyURL without an introduction. - Gregg Scott

This happens everytime a studio closes - Matthew

Leo she deserves a prize. - Gregg Scott

I use free software - Greg

Can I play the semi-completed Duke Nukem on my Kindle DX while dressed as a Vulcan and chatting to my 'girlfriend' on Google Voice? No? I thought this was tech? - Shéa Bennett

I would argue this value is lessened in the world of mobile computing. But I won't slam the sponsor. - Louis Gray

Alex looking at your www.TWiPlog.com site and the headings aren't centered. Is it hard to realign those design elments? - Gregg Scott

@louis eventually they'll launch "Go To My Cell Phone" - Tim Moore

But you shouldn't need it if you have a laptop. - Louis Gray

Leo's a hero. - Daniel Rowley

or "Go To My Home" - Matthew

You know her Skype ID too, Leo. - Gregg Scott

Leo I will take on of those Shiny Heil's - Tim Moore

say tricaster! - pmclem

I can't wait for GoToMyHouse. Great for late night's out. - Shéa Bennett

A new mixer - Greg

Yea she is - Chriz

Leo's flirtin with this chick - Tim Moore

Leo's puttin' on all the moves. - Shéa Bennett

Smooth operator. - Daniel Rowley

leo i could use a gotomyassist.com account... that citrix product is the bomb! - Chris Heath

I'd actually ask for that Mackie since he's about to drop it for a euphonix desk - Tim Moore

Yay! Lost again - Louis Gray

@Tim... .LOLz...and he can't even see what she looks like. HA! - .LAG liked that

Feel free to help out with this ep on the wiki http://wiki.twit.tv/wiki... - Phillip Stewart

i acutally have a gotmyassist account now, but not having to pay for it would be nice - Chris Heath

@LAG he's old, he doesn't care... - Tim Moore

hahahaha! - .LAG liked that

Wonder if Louis's router is disconnecting him - Greg

"Other participants of this game may receive the home version of this game for hours of product placement fun!" - Devon Blugh

possibly greg - Chris Heath

Scoble is the largest FF evangelist, much respect to LG! - .LAG liked that

Friendfeed rules - Josh Haley

It's starting to be a killer app - Charbax

http://threadedtweets.com - I launched this today. ;) - Colin

Love it, I do - D Lets

Ceph Aloha - Jason R

I'm on twit! - Josh Haley

FriendFeed's great! - Daniel Rowley

Yeah I love Threaded Tweets http://threadedtweets.com - Jeff

Love FF - Matthew

He defienately knows the FF dog and pony routine. - Tim Moore

http://tinyurl.com/qaphuk is this same conversation on ThreadedTweets. - Colin

Charbax, who is showing up as the first post now? :P - Phillip Stewart

Is Louis in a geological unstable area? Shakey cam - Jason R

Sorry Jason, I'll hold still - Louis Gray

Cool Colin!! - Jeff

great to see Louis on Twit - Gunnyman™

I"m over overwhelm - D Lets

she doesn't participate - Josh Haley

Isn't Kim Kardashian the daughter of deceased former OJ Simpson attorney? - shelter watch

yes she is - Gunnyman™

I still have not figured out FF - Jason R

I have about a 50% return - Matthew

howdy Josh - Gunnyman™

I Hide all Tweets that don't have comments or likes.. - Jeff

hey Gunny - Josh Haley

I still prefer the old pop-out real-time widget. - Gregg Scott

Kim Kardashian is a waste of human skin - Tim Moore

me too Gregg Scott, I like the avatars and the speech bubbles - Matthew

thx to Micah's grease monkey script, all @ replies from twitter get hidden - Gunnyman™

http://friendfeed.com/realtim... - Gregg Scott

http://friendfeed.com/scoblei... - Chris Heath

Thanks, Chris. My bad. - Louis Gray

What is the URL to see Scoble's feed stream? - Charbax

charbax: i just linked it up above - Chris Heath

Matthew. I prefer the social media icons, dialogue bubbles and font size. - Gregg Scott

Evening Dan!!! - Darren Rowley

friendfeed.com/username/friends - Chris Heath

Gregg Scott, there's a great greasemonkey script that brings back the social media icons - Matthew

Cool I wonder what bandwidth friendfeed is using per scobleizer/friends type stream - Charbax

Darren: howdy! - Daniel Rowley

Thx to Micah there's some great FF scripts - Gunnyman™

gregg scott - http://friendfeed.com/friendf... - Matthew

I'm a newbie to Greasemonkey. It runs inside the Firefox browser, correct? - Gregg Scott

yes - Matthew

yes Gregg - Gunnyman™

it's an addon - Matthew

FriendFeed is missing the easy @replies for people we are responding too. - Gregg Scott

what't the talkshoe thing - Jackson Pollock

talkshoe.com - Matthew

yeah I think some sort of @reply system on FF would be nice - Gunnyman™

i get that - Jackson Pollock

u need a us phone? - Jackson Pollock

there is a friendfeed iphone app - Tim Moore

http://fftogo.com is a great mobile app that's cross-platform. - Shéa Bennett

buddyfeed is the app - Tim Moore

Leo use the old pop-out widget for iPhone. http://friendfeed.com/realtim... - Gregg Scott

real-time on iphone will use bandwidth - Charbax

@reply for what? someones comment? - Tony Miller

yeah - Gunnyman™

threatened? amazon should be happy - Jackson Pollock

yeah, people either really want nested comments or really hate them - Tony Miller

Soon enough Android will tell you which supermarkets has cheapest food to buy - Charbax

and recommend you what to cook - Charbax

I do this already with my Treo 700p I'm always looking up stuff on amazon when I'm shopping - Gunnyman™

I wish Sprint had an Android phone - Gunnyman™

I wish Qik supported the G1. - Daniel Rowley

haha I came to the twit room on buddyfeed and the app crashed - Tim Moore

I like androids and food ;-) - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

http://friendfeed.com/realtim... - Gregg Scott

I wish it supported the Treo - Gunnyman™

<<http://friendfeed.com/realtim...>> - Gregg Scott

Thats if you make sure to install the critical update to the 32bit version BEFORE installing apps in it - Greg

hate that dog - Josh Haley

how u feeling Josh? still have thousand dragons throat? - Gunnyman™

well there's your problem. - Jackson Pollock

I've always suspected MS's paperclip 'helper' in Office was responsible for the boon in serial killers in the 1990s. "I see you're writing a ransom note..." - Shéa Bennett

You don't--it's gone, baby. Cut and paste or add to bookmarks... - Gregg Scott

bearable for now, but yeah still breathing fire. :p - Josh Haley

xfs FTW! - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

WinFS dead? - Jackson Pollock

http://notaniche.com/wp-cont... - Daniel Rowley

no RSS is dead - Gunnyman™

I used to scream at paperclip and smash fist down on keyboard. Search Puppy caught my wrath on more than one occasion as well - Tim Moore

lol - ralphsaunders

gunny; how's that? i'd say it's more alive than ever - Jackson Pollock

a throw back to yesterday's gilmor gang show - Gunnyman™

had to be there I guess :p - Gunnyman™

You're better off if you weren't, Gunny. - Louis Gray

jackson, he was referring to gilmor gang yesterday - ralphsaunders

amen Louis - Gunnyman™

bah - ralphsaunders

yea, considering podcasting is all rss - Jackson Pollock

everything - ralphsaunders

still at like a panther stage - Jackson Pollock

maybe puma - Jackson Pollock

Firefox is dead; long live Chrome. - Shéa Bennett

I love the idea of SquareSpace but the design elements aren't quite there yet in the sites I've looked at. Very close though. - Gregg Scott

I like windows7 when i'm forced to be on windows. Vista, not so much. A lot of screaming and smash fist down on keyboard repeatedly - Tim Moore

The RC will expire on June 1, 2010. Starting on March 1, 2010, your PC will begin shutting down every two hours. - Darren Rowley

Wish chromium would come - Gunnyman™

Douglas Bowman being hired at Twitter is quite a development. - Gregg Scott

brian daniel eisenberg should talk about the atom processor like he said before the show - Chris Heath

I'm running WIndows 7 on my Netbook and Q1 and both perform better than the original XP. - Jim Lavin

but they did start over though, in 2005. they began all over again with vista code - Jackson Pollock

2004* - Jackson Pollock

He's lying! - Tim Moore

Woo pageviews are up today :D - ralphsaunders

A swedish company took Google Chrome, took the code and fixed it's holes and gives it free..Iron - earl wallace

looks like the 9 cell battery not the 6 - Gunnyman™

@Gunny I agree - Tim Moore

my 3 cell Wind gets 3 hrs - Gunnyman™

turn off push and pull dude - Tim Moore

i get really good battery life on my iphone - Chris Heath

Skype died again so I'm all done. :) - Louis Gray

really? - ralphsaunders

My G1 OS updated this week, it's fantastic. - Daniel Rowley

your not going to come back them louis - ralphsaunders

Poor Louis... - Jim Lavin

I REALLY want an Android phone - Gunnyman™

Thanks for your participation Louis. - Gregg Scott

Good job Louis; next time let the other guys get a word in. - Shéa Bennett

that sucks Louis - Matthew

rokr? think that was suppose to be razr - Jackson Pollock

@Louis Gray, you should start your own podcast - Matthew

Louis should do a 19 minute podcast. - Daniel Rowley

1st gen iPhones... Turn off Location services! - Tommy Bevins

i've had days where i forgot to pause the ipod on my iphone when i unplugged the jack ... it didn't put audio out on the speaker, but kept running the songs and it ran down the battery by the early afternoon... - Chris Heath

No Motorola had the first phone that worked with iTunes called the Rocker - Jim Lavin

That's was hilarious, Daniel Rowley! - Gregg Scott

lol - ralphsaunders

3G I never use. WiFi always on. I browse internet about 20 minutes a day, I do about 15 minutes of talking a day, send about 30 sms a day. Maybe an hour of ipod a day. Lasts me 2-3 days on one charge. - Jackson Pollock

zephyrlily i disagree... i like having an all-in-one device - Chris Heath

Maybe we will start a podcast. Hmmmm - Louis Gray

my phone is a phone, but my iPod Touch is awesome - Matthew

@Louis Gray, keep us posted Louis - Matthew

Droppin Science with Louis Gray - Gunnyman™

zephyrlily i get 1.5-2 days on my iphone - Chris Heath

this week in friendfeed? - Tim Moore

The Gray Area with Louis Gray - Matthew

but most of the time i just recharge the iphone overnight so i'm topped off - Chris Heath

My 1st Gen iPod Touch battery will die based on WiFi use but mostly my screen brightness setting. - Gregg Scott

no sephyrilily - Matthew

zep; nop - Jackson Pollock

zephyrlily, you can get a battery pack case... i don't have one - Chris Heath

The Blackberry outsold the Iphone but different markets and cultures. - earl wallace

Louis count me in if you want a co-host - Jim Lavin

earl... blackberry has a buyonegetone deal - Chris Heath

Droppin' Science and Skype Calls with Louis Gray. - Daniel Rowley

@carlosgustavo I'll follow ya as soon as I get of TWIT, OK? - D Lets

so they didn't make that much money but moved twice as many units as they would have normally - Chris Heath

don't cha just love irish - Jackson Pollock

@carlosgustavo i would follow you but it's all in some lanquage I cannot read ;) - Tim Moore

sue. you shouldn't sue. americans always want to sue. they're pro consumer, not pro company. - Jackson Pollock

USA I believe is the most litigious country in the world - Greg

Possible topic: Myspace Megan Meyers federal legislation? - shelter watch

if we didn't have lawyers we wouldn't need lawyers - Jackson Pollock

How would someone gain credentials to be a "software expert witness"? - earl wallace

740 - Greg

@leolaporte It's really not that long it didn't really start till 3:40 - D Lets

---- End Of Show --- ] - ralphsaunders

Feel free to Subscribe to me on FF or follow me on Twitter. @greggscott - Gregg Scott

TWiT 194 - This Week in Trek - the volunteer edition - Chris Heath

good show, good shoe....well done Leo & Co. - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

Nice Title Chris! - Gregg Scott

Chris you need to post that on IRC. - Gregg Scott

Goodnight!... oh, not me! - Daniel Rowley

good show. liked using FF as the backchannel... - .LAG liked that

Quickly turned sound off to not hear the spoilers. :P - Phillip Stewart

@LAG yeah FF works for me I hate the IRC channels - Tim Moore

twit just had a Moment of Win - Josh Haley

This my best TWIT ever! - earl wallace

I like GN DN - Tim Moore

Chris I pimped your title in IRC. - Gregg Scott

the red shirt always gets it...right away - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

dammit! GNDN.COM is already taken. - Tim Moore

It was a great episode! The caller interaction must be part of the show now. - Justin Luey

they said wynona rider was spock's mom a year ago - Chris Heath

red shirt guy thread on friendfeed via kshep: http://friendfeed.com/kshep... - Chris Heath

the red shirt guy always got it - Chris Heath

Leo you have to control this chat room - D Lets

6 hours - Charbax

@leolaporte It's really not that long it didn't really start till 3:40 - D Lets

The chat on friendfeed will eventually be filtered by "likes" when they add likes for comments and provide filters in real-time to only show liked commentors - Charbax

still just about 2 hours - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

I have been using the TWITTY app and its pretty good! - earl wallace

poor Brian...gonna explode! - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

My husband will know who the heck Rachel is - Rachel

the updated Twitterrific iPhone apps is very nice - Matthew

lol rachel - Chris Heath

i use LaTWiT - Chris Heath

cya friendfeeders... i'll bbl - Chris Heath

Adios! - Daniel Rowley

Becky for the motherflippin win - Matthew

COOL - Charbax

Becky + Dvorak + Molly is cool - Charbax

Tahnks Leo! I did'nt think FF would work for me but it's really nice! - earl wallace

Hope they have the wine for next week :) - Harvey Birdman

Thanks for having me on. That was awesome! - Rachel

It was great chatting/posting with all of you.good night - earl wallace

Where was Ozzy today? - shelter watch

Thank you for an interesting show today. - Ed Boutros

awesome show today Leo! For being fairly last minute i think it turned out great. - Chris Heath

Dunno if anybody's reading these after the fact, but something at least tech-related in the Star Trek discussion...slight spoiler contained...Cryptic is working on an ST MMO, set about 50 years after Voyager I believe. Anyway, they have been updating their news feed once or twice a week with a story called "The Path to 2409," (http://www.startrekonline.com/fiction) which follows the... more... - David E. Mullins

Just listened via podcast. Love the TalkShoe integration, Leo! - casey wright

Yeah, worked out really well. - Roberto Bonini

how to i get to the chat - Adrian Izquieta

Jesse Stay

"W" is by far Oliver Stone's absolute worst movie. I can't tell if it's supposed to be a comedy or if he's serious. Very disrespectful IMO.

May 10, 2009 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

Morton Fox liked this

Does that mean it isn't worth seeing? - Frankie Warren

9 more comments

Frankie I wouldn't recommend it. Waste of my time. - Jesse Stay

Agreed: not a good movie. But who does it disrespect? - Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)

Rob, it disrespects the office of the President of the United States. I don't care how goofy George W. Bush was, or if any of the "rumors" were true. Stone depicts the rumors as though they actually were true and completely diminishes the respect of the office of the President of the United States. I don't care who it is - the President should never be depicted in the way Stone did George W. Bush - he made a foolery of him. (Note that I voted for Obama) - Jesse Stay

Same here. I thought it was a horrible movie, but not sure it was disrespectful or who it would be disrespectful to. - Jeremy Franklin

The presidency of George W. Bush was far more disrepectful to the office than anything else. Oliver Stone is only guilty of making some crappy movies. - Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)

...or should we refer to it as the Cheney presidency? - Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)

Jeremy it made a fool of the President, especially where it came out while that President was in office. I think that's disrespectful. Rob I don't care if you have that opinion. I think he made mistakes as well. It's another to completely make fun of him based on complete rumors that make him look like a fool. Stone had a political agenda with this and it was disrespectful to the office of any President that leads this nation. I completely lost respect for Stone with this one. - Jesse Stay

Jesse, I do have that opinion, as such there is no reason you should care about it. But to say Oliver Stones little movie made a fool of George Bush is give Stone far to much credit. George Bush would look like a fool with or without the movie. re: Oliver Stone--I think we agree. - Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)

I wouldn't go too far on the disrespectful suggestion, but the movie seemed cheap and boring. - Louis Gray

Luke, I saw it - didn't see any reviews telling me not to watch it though. :-P - Jesse Stay

Jeremy Franklin

Canon is really making a move into the HD video enabled DSLR with the T1i http://i.gizmodo.com/5182772...

March 24, 2009 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

Daniel Rowley, Bill Pennington and Robert Scoble liked this

definitely looks like it's going to be a great camera. I'm just disappointed for the degraded 1080 @ 20fps. Perhaps the http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki... forum guys will figure something out soon! - Elijah Nicolas

2 more comments

Yeah. That 20fps is not so great. The Gizmodo video sort of demonstrated it, but it is a start. My 40D is looking really old now. - Jeremy Franklin

Wow pretty amazing, cameras = PCs these days in terms of refresh rate on tech. Interested to see what the mid-line refresh brings as well - Bill Pennington from twhirl

Also I keep wondering what this signals for camcorders in general, seems like a camcorder form factor + 5D2 tech would just kick butt. Oh and give me manual control please! - Bill Pennington from twhirl

Jesse Stay

I'm going to live-stream this #suntweet panel on Friendfeed - discuss here#

January 22, 2009 - Comment - Like - Share

Jeremy Hanks of Doba.com just announced nineisle.com - a software company built around products they build, as well as launchup.org - Jesse Stay

7 more comments

Yeah - it's hot in here! - Jesse Stay

Is this working? - Carissa

Panelists: @exit_stage_left, @jesse, @Krista_parry, @jyl_momif, and @ghennipher - Jesse Stay

http://www.9aisle.com - Jeremy Franklin

Someone share the ustream URL if you have it - Jesse Stay

http://www.ustream.tv/channel... - Jeremy Franklin

Jyl is the creator of #GNO on Twitter, FYI - Jesse Stay

Someone please post the link to donate here - Jesse Stay

Robert Scoble

If you had $3,000 in your pocket, which would you buy? Canon 5D MKII or Apple 17-inch MacBookPro. Discuss here:

January 6, 2009 - Comment - Like - Share

americanm, Molly Song ;), Aaron Draczynski and 77 other people liked this

Neither - MiniMage

246 more comments

We are arguing about that on the CES bus. Geeks! - Robert Scoble

Canon 5D MKII hands down. - Andrew Hyde

pro for sho - Bradley Will

Canon camera. I need a great camera more than a Mac - Keith - @tsudo

5d Mk II - Scott Loftesness

5D MKII, since I've already got a Mac Pro. ;) - Cory OBrien

Have a Nikon D300 and my old MBP is on the fritz, so this woud be a slam dunk for me - Gregg Gallagher

17 inch MBP because I love it. Then I'd buy a cheap 40D. I get more use out of a laptop than I do a camera. - Michael Yurechko

Apple 17-inch MacBookPro with a matte screen. - Arturo Puente

People who get a good cannon keep them forever, I go through a macbook every few years - Michael Struening

Macbook Pro. Only because I'm a Nikon fan. D300 is definitely my choice of camera ;) - Tamar Weinberg

mac - David Banes from IM

Mac - Jeff (Team マクダジ )

Would have to be the MacBookPro - Jason Townsend

The Canon. A solid peice of hardware and I'm after a camera - Mo Kargas

5D MKII of course. - Jeremy Franklin

The Canon. I'd have so much more fun with a zippy camera than a Big Mac. - Mike Neumann

Probably the computer. I'm happy with the first gen 5D I'm about to buy and as awesome as the camera is, the MBP doesn't need another $5K in lenses. - Derrick

Neither, you need at least twice that for glass & equipment to get the "rig" you should want for a Canon MKII - sorry, 3K isn't enough for that toy; and spending 3K on disposable technology (Mac equipment) isn't a wise investment. - Enrique Gutierrez

MBP....i miss my macs! - Brian Bufalo

5D MKII hands down. I can hold onto the memory cards until I get to a desktop :) - Austin

Without question: 5D mark II - Rodney L.

MBP - it's a means of production for me, once i make some extra cash with it I can always buy the 5D ;-) - Warren

I already have a 5D MKII but I would take another one in a heartbeat, or a couple of nice L glass - Bill Pennington

5D Mark II..... no doubt. - Albert K

Canon, without a doubt. - Brad Butner

Definitely the MacBook Pro...but then again I'm not a photographer. - Charlie Flowers

Canon - Tyler (Chacha) from IM

Neither, I'd use it to buy food for a year. - Will Higgins™

Considering I can make quicker cash with my Photography work I would say the Canon 5D MKII and then I would buy the Apple 17 inch MacBook Pro with some of my earnings! - Patrick Greer

5D Mark II. And then throw the remaining towards some new glass. - Andy Hannon

2k into the bank, 1k for computer upgrades and other stuff. - Grant Bierman

5D Mk II everytime ... unless I don't have a Mac at that particular time ... - Stephen Taylor

I would go for the Macbookpro - Troy Malone

5D MKII...already have a MacBookPro and I'm willing to ditch my Nikon gear! - Dan Shust

Canon 5D MKII since I already have the 15" MBP. - Alan Le

I don't need either one--but I think the Canon would have much better resale value--so given the choices: Canon. - Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)

Canon 5D MKII - for sure! - I really want one.... :( - Brad

MBP - not a photographer - Matt Faulkner

A 50D and a fast lens. ;-) - D. Lambert

I've already got the 15" unibody so I'd go for the 5Dmkii - Sparky, lurking

If I didn't have a laptop, then I would get the 17" MBP. If I already had a lappy, then get the camera... - William Sellers

Well, I recently moved from a 30D to a 5DMII because it was a huge upgrade for my "system". With a 2 year old Macbook Pro still serving me well for my needs, it's an easy decision. Additionally, I can't see using a 17" notebook over a 15 for portability sake, I'd just as well get an iMac and keep using my Macbook Pro for mobile use. - Ryan

Aren't you in Vegas? I think there are a few other options in front of you.. - LA Snark

5D!! - Wil

The camera. I have a new macbook already. - Jim Williams

The 5D is more than a $3k investment. It's $3k upfront but thousands in lenses, flashes and other gear over the years. - Michael Yurechko

Canon 5DMIII... - Greg Kamer

MacBookPro 17-inch. I am a Nikon guy. So, Canon 5D MKII if I had $7K for all the lenses, too. - Chintan Zaveri

The camera! I already have the 15" MBpro. 17" is just too big. - Sherry Main

My 1 yr-old MacBook doesn't thrill me; it sits on the desk unused, and I just couldn't pay more than $200 for a camera, unless I was dreadfully rich. - MiniMage

5DMKII - sell some images on istockphoto, and then buy an MSI Wind and install OSX. It is faster than my 15" MBP! - Darren Mak

Definitely the 5D MkII - Christopher Chan

$3,000 worth of NOODLZ - Bwana ☠

100 shares of CRM ;D - barl0w

What would I do with a Mac? - drsPIX

canon 5d. already have a 15 mbp - Kiran Patchigolla

5D MK II You can always get the Mac later. - Yu Yu Din

I'd pay my bills and buy some groceries. - ::Kristen::

What's an Apple 17-inch MacBookPro and why would a person need one? - Michael Krigsman

Mac book pro - Randy

MacBook Pro because I have neither a mac or digital SLR and the Mac does many things where as the canon does one thing well/ - BRҰANSAҰS

Canon 5D MKII - Mαηsòór

I'll take the MacBook Pro - Rob

MacBookPro...or a Martin 12 http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product... and use the difference to buy a copy of logic pro for my 15" macbook pro - Armen Chakmakjian

I'll go for the MacBook. My heart beats nikon so.... - studio_juan

5D MKII - do you want to lug around that 17" beast? - nicholas einstein

MBP - already have a nice Canon - but my Mac sits firmly on my desk - shaun mclane

MacBook Pro, but I would need another $1200 for the 8GB of RAM. - Shawn Hickman

5D MKII. Even though I already have one. - Kathleen McGivney

Neither. Maybe 3 coins :). I have a Macbook Pro which I don't use often comparing to my PC. I am not into the consumer electronic stuff, only got a digital cam last year :). - dexin

Canon. Can't believe Apple ditched the matte screen on the 17" - FCP users and photographers don't want a glossy screen - the idea of the 17" is the ability to use it out in the field for photo/video editing. - Peter Clayton

So limiting, Robert! If I could pick whatever I wanted, I'd get one of those sweet Asus multi-touch netbooks coming out - and then use the rest to buy Yahoo! stock. :P - Shawn Farner

MB 13'' and the external cinema display. MBP17 is huge to carry out - Jean-Charles VERDIE

canon - jtothea

17" MBP FTW! You should create a poll on SocialToo.com Robert, then we can see graphed results! - Joseph

Craigslist in Cincinnati - 5D for 1200: http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/ele... - D. Lambert

Wow, what a great argument! 82 comments in 17 minutes! - Robert Scoble

Camera. Droooooooooool. - Pixie

Well part of it would have to go towards fixing my car, http://preview.tinyurl.com/9dz2kz. Then the rest would go towards buying a second camera body to be my main and at least one lens if not two. Then the rest would go towards bills. - Mathew™ aka Youngblood

Robert: Apple products plus awesome SLR cameras...response is a given :) - Mo Kargas

the camera is nice - especially all the HD video. friend of mine in the movie post-production business reckons this sort of Camera will KILL the movie camera business in a few years time. especially at the low-budget movie (<$30 million) of the movie business. RED already making big inroads. much cheaper than an ARRI. - Scot Mcphee

The MK II as I already have the MBP 17 inch...older but it works. - Semipro

Canon 5D is the winner for me. Great digital photography is the gift that keeps on giving.... ;-) - John Uppendahl

Well.... Given that I have 4 PC desktops, 2 PC laptops, and 1 iMac, all of which are operational and regularly used, AND that I suck at photography, I'm going for what's behind door #3: A whopping big HDTV -- which will get hooked up to the living room PC, of course. ;-) - Joanmarie

17" Mac. Already have a camera. . . - Scott Whitney

Nikon D3 - Bill Sanders

Macbook Pro for me. Would be my first Mac. - Jim Bednarz

Nikon D3 - ThePicMan

MacBook Pro. Don't need such a super-duper crazy camera. Not a real photographer. But a very real Mac geek. - Louis Gray

5D for sure! - Daniel Pourasghar

I'd go the MacBook - but I'd also load it up with the full 8gb of RAM I see as an option (and not many people mentioning). Sadly, a nice 17" MBP setup it just over NZ$10k :( - Mark Derricutt

MacBook Pro. Hands down. I'm a computer engineer, not a photographer. - Logan Leger

well since I've already got a Canon 5D Mark II... hmmmm... - Thomas Hawk

I'll buy neither. What I would rather do is try to buy one share of BRK-B if it gets to that price. :) - imabonehead

The 17" Mac Book Pro, I already have a 5D MkII ;-) - Jeff P. Henderson

I'd buy the camera, I have always loved photography and wanted to learn. - R. Ferguson

The Canon, all the way man!! - Finding The View

Apple! I don't like the fact of the hd video recorder on the 5D and I want the Sony alpha! - Brandy Lea

Canon. 15" MBP is the largest I'll go. - ronin

I would take the cash and build an ultimate gaming PC !!! :D - ralphsaunders

When you buy an inexpensive camera, you really sacrifice quality, and that lack of quality endures (you want to keep your photos forever, right?). When you buy an inexpensive computer, that's not the case (I don't need a unibody case :) - David Andrzejewski

Canon 5D - easy answer! - Susan Beebe

Ouch, this one hurts. I suppose I can't opt for a Nikon equivalent to the Canon? If this is the choice, I'd opt for the MacBook Pro. But if I had 3K, I'd buy myself the Nikon D300 - Karoli

The Canon. A 17" laptop is too big unless you plan to use it as a desktop. - Hartley Spurlock

Mac for sure.I have a first generation Macbook and I need a new one. Kaya Singer - Kaya

I'd pay off my credit card. For all that stuff I, like, already bought. - Jandy

the Camera for sure - Tai

5d Mark II - jho

None - a super-gaming rig. :) - carrotmadman6

Definitely a Canon 5D. - Maria Colacurcio

5D Mark II - Hands down. - Seagate

I would save it until I had between $8-15K for a CO2 laser cutting machine. I like my macs small, and while full frame sounds nice, I know I'm not nearly hungry enough to go pro in photography, so 40D suits me just fine. - Jason Wehmhoener

That's a tough one because I have been wanting to get my first Mac (have to start somewhere, right?!) but am a hard core Canon fan/user. So if push came to shove, I would have to go with the Canon. - Laura Zickus

Mmm, CO2 lasers. - Mo Kargas

That would be either a trip to another continent or a Fujitsu LifeBook P1630, but it would not be either of the options in the question. I seriously cannot understand $3k for a camera, unless you're going to make that money back in a month or two WITH said camera. - MiniMage

Neither, I would invest in the stock market. - DGentry

I'd prefer a D300, however no matter what brand I'd take the camera in a second over the MBP. Save up another $500 and get a Windows Notebook as well. - Kenton

The Canon 5D MKII for sure. Cameras bring me a lot more joy than flashy computers. Though a 17-inch MacBookPro would be nice to edit those new photos on too ;-) - Ian Holton from twhirl

Probably the Mac. I would never carry around a DSLR. Too big. - Rodfather

Neither. The new full frame format with HD Movies (wow! Woopee *rolls eyes*) is crap - only 3.9 FPS?! Who are they kidding?! - Adam

Seeing my Macbook Pro is 5 months old. I would buy neither...but I would buy a MacPro with more RAM. - Ryan

I take a cruise with Lindsay - big ass stateroom. - iTad

Neither, I'd get a Canon Rebel XTi and build a new gaming PC, anything left over would go toward the new home NOC - xero

I would take my lover to Italy :) - Maryam Scoble

The Canon 5D, I find the photographic process calming, a welcome diversion from the ones and zeros. - cornedbeefgents

Awwww :) - Mo Kargas

Nikon D700 - Rod Bauer from twhirl

There's one in every crowd. - Rod Bauer from twhirl

If I had the $3,000, Canon 5D and a larger donation here http://tinyurl.com/daniela Pros: it's more portable, takes better pictures, and connects to my more compact 15" Macbook Pro. Of course, it doesn't work with my Nikon lenses, so... - Lee Dale

Canon 5D MKII only cause I have a Macbook Pro. If I didnt it would be the Macbook. - Bob Maltais

Nah. Patrick's college fund. 5D Mark 2 or the Macbook isn't all that exciting. - Joshua Hayworth

cannon.I kill computers, so not worth spending 3 grand on one. Plus I have a (beat up) macbook pro already. - InPerpetualMotion(Gina k)

The MacBook of course. - Rob Fahrni

mac - Vishy

5D, but I wish it had XLR audio. - Gus

the new MBP, without a doubt ... my current ones needs a refresh (I'm accepting donations btw) ;-) - Jeffrey Canton

Since I'll be getting the new MBP anyway, I'll take the 5D. BTW, is anyone keeping score? - Brad Kligerman

Blatant self-promotion, but if Robert used re-searchr.com it would keep score for us... I wrote it to suck down inline multiple choice selections so no ne would even have to leave ff - James Ostheimer

Robert, you're asking the question that's been pondering in my mind from some time (albeit it used to be with the 15" and Cinema display v. 5D/a900/D700 -cannot make my mind-). I want to be able to make a decision before March. I think I'll be going for the Mac, since I might relocate in part of the world where carrying an expensive piece of art around my neck might be more dangerous than here, in JPN. - Paul Papadimitriou

I'd go for a MBP, mine needs an upgrade and I just bought a 50D not long ago which is just fine for me. - Andrew Trinh from Nambu

I need cash! :) - Randy

Some of us are Nikon people. Some of us are not Mac people. I'll just take the 3 Gs. - Eric - seven eleven

Nikon D700 + 50mm 1.4 prime lens! - Guillaume Lemoine

More lenses. My camera is fine, and this Thinkpad is a good 'un. - Paula W

Seems like Apple design the 17-inch MacBookPro just can use in 3years.the battery can only use in 1000 times,1time per 1day,3years.But Canon 5D can take more beatuful pics for me,and can stand by me more than 3years.if i really have 3000dollers,i real do this.kick off 17-inch MacbookPro. - jedorstar from twhirl

Lenses, like Paula sez. - Rob Kramer

Buy half and half :) - Michael Forian

Wow, I came late to this convo. Well, for what it's worth at this point, I'd probably get the lappytop, sell my old MBP and then use THAT money to buy a cheaper camera. :D - Jonathan Hardesty

Macbook I think. I have a 40D but REALLY want the 5D. Which do you think you could get your hands on first? - Andrew Smith

The 5D. The MacBookPro can wait. - Chris Nixon

5D, I have enough laptops as it is. - Amit Morson

The $2800 MBP becomes a lot more compelling when converted to 2080€. - Brad Kligerman

I'm a Nikon guy but the 5D MKII has me seriously considering a switch - Bryan Thatcher from twhirl

As I don't like Macs and into my photography the choice out of the two is simple. :-) But I've rather spend the money on say the Nikon D3 and if you gave me an extra grand or 2 then I'd go for the Nikon D3X. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes from twhirl

Without though, the Canon 5D MKII. First up, you don't want to trust another "first gen" Apple product. And with the unimpressive lineup yesterday, maybe the 15" laptops are coming out real soon now, with similar features, and all quirks ironed out - Colin Charles from twhirl

MAC!!! - Orli Yakuel

(Friendfeed needs a poll feature) - Jérôme

5D over the MAC Pro. - Robert Miller

MacBookPro - just bought myself a nice camera with a fracking big lens! - Joel Hammond-Turner

Canon! - Janet:#TeamMonique

Canon. I have a laptop and rarely use it - well not as a laptop. It sits on a desk as a permenant fixture. - Ian May

Canon 5D mk 2 :) - Joe Dawson

Camera, I never liked the 17". It's too heavy for a "portable" - Melissa dela Merced from twhirl

neither, a big ass HDTV :) - Terry O'Fee

17-inch macbookPro is way too big. so I would go for the camera. Problem is I would need to learn how to use it then... - Davide D'Incau

If you have good lenses to take advantage of the MKII (extra $3000 needed here), go for the camera! - Joao Pedro

I would buy a Apple 17-inch macbook of course.! I don't have an apple and I would really like one. I have a camera thats good enough for me. - @LarsenTweet

nor this neither that! i will send money to help people in Gaza or at least I'll send 1000 $. - خیزران

canon 5d mk ii based on the videos I've seen - i mean just look at these http://is.gd/cP6x - planetMitch

The Canon, surely. No use for a laptop that big. - Ryan Sholin

5D over here too - Simon Wicks

Macbook Pro 17! - Greg

The camera. Already have three computers but have no camera. - Martha

I am not pro enough to need the 5D, I am actually looking at a D60 or D90. But the 17 Macbook is something I can use :) - TheSleepyGeek

I'd buy the Nikon D700 - David Parmet from twhirl

neither - cash is still king - viki saigal

its the lens, not the body - spring for L glass - @jessewright

MacBookPro - Stewart Rogers

New MacBookPro 17". I would probably get more use out of it than the Canon. But my, oh my, ya'll, the Canon sure is sweet. - Matthew Freeman

I have the glass. I have the Mac, I'd get the 5DMKII - stretta from twhirl

5D - I don't need a macbook. I'm happy with my PC and laptop - they cover my my needs perfectly. - Roberto Bonini

MBP. - Michael Molinar

Donate it to @armano. - Jim Mitchem

given my current status .. I am happy with my Canon XTi so I would go for the MacBook Pro. - Kapil

5D, but that's cuz I've been saving up for one. A new MBP would def. be on the list of future purchases (current computer is 3 years old) - Michael

Canon 5d Mk II, far more useful than the new laptop. More fun. One encourages you to sit around, the other encourages you to go out :-) - Richard A.

Canon!! - Ivana from twhirl

I would buy the Mac, get a cheaper camera with the money I have left, and edit and enhance my videos using my Mac. - Shevonne

I'd go the Mac route. I'm looking to buy one anyway and I've already got a camera. Might not be as fancy as the Canon do-dad, but I'll manage. - James Ferguson

Wow 202 comments! How did I miss this thread? :) - AJ Batac

The 17" MBP as my current 12" PB is on it's last legs and needs replacing - need rather than want for me - Sally Church

The Canon... even though I already have a 5D and actually need a new laptop - Shawn Duffy from twhirl

Macbookpro - Roger Kondrat

I'd say the MacBook... you can do more with it. - Dejim Juang

EOS 5D - Julien Guyard

Canon, since the MBP that I'd want would actually cost $5823. Not $3000. - Ben Hwang from twhirl

This would be much more enjoyable if there was some kind of poll widget along side comments. - Michael Leggett

Would be easier to see at a glance. - Richard A.

I'd by the largest HD display I could... - Clay Newton

Canon 5D MKII. huh.. no: a powerful Linux box - Thierry R. Andriamirado

The MacBookPro, I have a Canon 30d but I do not have a MacBook - Bob Gannon

I wouldn't want a 17'' monster of a MacBookPro and therefore would go for the Canon 5D MKII - Donald Townsend

5D, the 17-inch MacBook Pro is very big. Harder to find bags for it and its less portable. - seanb

bank it, put in matress, done need either of those things, we need smarter devices that tell us the likelyhood of use-longevitiy in them, "i'm a camera you bought last year, you used me 9 times, i collect dust, owner- please resist replacing me unless you really really really need to, and the data suggests you don't.." - Dan Rockwell from twhirl

Not enough to buy what I want with the Canon, and I wouldn't be caught dead spending $3000 on a laptop. What a waste! - Paul Puri

Neither. A $3000 laptop is not worth it just because of its branding. - Spencer

ohh.. I can't choose. I want both of them... But if i choose, first canon, second mac... İ have canon 40 d and 15'' mac book pro. And i don't like mac's new screen. It's like mirror... - devletsah

Spencer: as a recent PC to Mac switcher, it's more than brand. Much more. - Ryan

I'd buy a netbook for the other three members of my family and put the remaining $2000 toward bills or savings. :) - Steve Lowe

Agree with Aaron, love my 13" Macbook and really want the 5D MKII - Kyle

Definitely the Mac. - John Clifton

Is this thing still going? I can't remember if I replied to this yet, but I say it depends on what will benefit you the most. Robert, you are a photo-maniac. I know that you have a few cameras laying around the house, but I don't know how many Macs you have. You have to remember that a 17" laptop sounds great on paper, but I know that you do a lot of traveling as well, so it might now suite your means. Then again, I would never keep $3,000 dollars in my pocket ;) - Michael Forian

of course the mac - doesn´t matter what the second option is... - Dieter Schwarz

I would buy the Canon 5D MKII but being a Nikonian I would end up buying the MacBook Pro and feel no remorse :) - Carlos Lorenzo

MacBook Pro. I need a laptop really bad. - Nick Humphries

The camera. 17-inch laptops are fricking ridiculous. - Andru Edwards

camera and a box of junior mints - Morgan

I'd definitely go for a MB Pro. My Rebel XTi and Panasonic GS180 video cam is doing me just fine. - emon hassan

Forget the Mac, keep your current camera, and buy better lenses. - Michael Krigsman

17 inch laptop is useless in term of mobility so I would go with the Canon - Hadar Weiss

A Sony a900. :) - Jeff Jones

Neither. I'd start with the Bonobo Pro Ubuntu Laptop for under $2000 and use the $1000 to max it out. http://system76.com/product... - Gail Gardner

Impressive amount of comments here, this has to be the highest ever now right? - Joe Dawson

I'm sorry, can you repeat the question: did you say a "camera", a "computer" or a "shark with laser beams"? - Micah

save the money for tougher times. as much as I'd like the Canon, it's going to be just an expensive toy for me. and my three year old Inspiron works just fine for the most things I do on it. - Franci Penov from twhirl

5Dm2 because I already have the new MBP 15" 2.8Ghz. Mostly b/c the cam is more revolutionary than the 17", even though the 17" battery life is enticing. - ɯɥøq sɐɯoɥʇ

Wow, 250 comments - OMG ...FF is really growing ...YEAH !!! - Susan Beebe

Yeah, this week has produced several >100 comment threads in my feed. - xero

Not the 5D, but some body+the best lenses, that actually lasts longer. Laptops are out of date in months and often die within 18, cameras and lenses last a lot longer - Iphigenie

I would buy a Apple 17-inch MacBookPro, only cause I already have a SLR, so I dont need the Canon 5D MKII. - Colide81 (James)

I would not spend it, id rather invest 3000 dollars with 10 shares of google - Kyle Weller

then just buy lenses - you probably already have a computer that can do everything you need - Iphigenie

Exxon-Mobile. Oh wait, what was the question again? - Erik S

Neither- new hardware for the pending Win7 beta drop. :) - Randy Holloway from twhirl

both! - jortai

@Ryan I am a Mac user, have been for a while. It's just my opinion, but $2800 for a piece of hardware in which you can the same or better specs on a PC, is quite a bit of branding. - Spencer

Using the MacBook Pro 17 inch now (love it!)- and I am quite happy with my Canon Powershot G9, so I'll just take the cash and pay down some of my debt--thanks! - Kelly W.

Canon 5D MKII then buy the 15" MacBook Pro later. - John Wang

I would buy a new fast lens for my old 5D (around $1000) and save the rest. - Alexander Arsky

Nikon E90 *and* a 15" Macbook. :) I bend rules. - Daniel Miessler

Nikon E90 like Daniel :P - Molly Song ;)

Canon 5d MKII, i'm not a mac person so that was easy. - Squid

I've been back and forth on this since the 17" was announced. I am very likely to upgrade to the 5DMKII this year. But I want a more powerful laptop to work on the huge files it creates. Chicken? Egg? Confused. - Jeremy Brooks

Canon 5D MKII for sure. MBP 15 is still chugging along after 2 years. And the 5D is still doing great after 1 year, but I would really like the new 5D. - Johnny Sewell

5D Mark II , without a doubt! - americanm

Caonon 5D all the way - John Uppendahl

Jesse Stay

Everyone list the temperature right now where you are, along with your location.

December 25, 2008 - Comment - Like - Share

Kol Tregaskes, Duncan Riley, Alan Le and 7 other people liked this

Salt Lake City, Utah - 27 degrees F - Jesse Stay

30 more comments

Charleston, SC - 67 degrees F - Ian May

28.1°F. http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin... - Morton Fox

Valencia, CA 54 F - Jeremy Franklin

36°F, wind, rain, Apple Valley, CA - Aaron L. M. Goodwin

27°F Rexburg, ID - Joseph McLaughlin

36°F partly cloudy Severn,MD. - Vox

55F Mableton (Atlanta), GA - Roney Smith

Currently, in our area, the temperature is 65 degrees under cloudy skies.</weatherchannelrobotvoice> (Charleston, SC) - Jared Smith

35 degrees F NY, NEW YORK! - Mona Nomura

30F Rochester, NY - Susan Beebe

Same as Jared, tempted to turn on the AC as it's 77 in the house. - Heather Solos

31 F, Seattle WA. - Rochelle

beatrice, nebraska 41 degrees F - (jeff)isageek

Colorado Springs, Colorado 42 degrees - Eric - seven eleven

Boulder, CO 41 degrees - George Smith

Adelaide, sunny South Australia, 27 degrees Celsius - humid - Chris Loft

Columbus, Ohio 21 degrees - RAPatton

Bay Area 43 degrees- clear. feels colder though - Alyx

Micco, FL 70 degrees - ::Kristen::

30 degrees Farenheit in Monroe, Ohio. - mandyvan

The snow is sideways outside here in Salt Lake right now - haven't seen this much snow in a long time. - Jesse Stay

Ontario, California, probably in the 40s right now. The rain has stopped. - Ontario Emperor

36 degrees here in Washington, DC... - Amani

Chennai, India 84.2 degree F (29 degree C) - Ramkarthik

Aurora, IL 24 degrees F - Roy Rumaner

starting to cool down. 23C (74F). Melbourne, Victoria. - Duncan Riley

4C.. Debrecen, Hungary - Berci Mesko, MD

3C, Kent, UK. old but sunny (and for the rest of the week allegedly) - Kol Tregaskes

61 in side my house, prob 50s or mid 40s outside, Silicon valley - Jeremiah Owyang

Chennai, and it is pleasantly Chilly - may be near 23-26 Deg Centigrades - Jayavasanthan J

Petaling Jaya, Malaysia, 81 dF - Joshua Galloway

Jeremy Franklin

"Helping to Write History" By Eli Saslow - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...

December 18, 2008 from delicious - Comment - Like - Share

The job requires him to work unnoticed, even in plain view, so Jon Favreau settles into a wooden chair at a busy Starbucks in the center of Penn Quarter. Deadline looms, and he needs to write at least half a page by the end of the day. As the espresso machines whir, Favreau opens his laptop, calls... - Jeremy Franklin

Jeremy Franklin

"Helping to Write History" By Eli Saslow - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...

December 18, 2008 from delicious - Comment - Like - Share

Jeremy Franklin

Thousands protest LDS stance on same-sex marriage - Salt Lake Tribune - http://www.sltrib.com/ci_1092...

November 7, 2008 from delicious - Comment - Like - Share

pics http://flickr.com/photos... - Jeremy Franklin

Jeremy Franklin

Thousands protest LDS stance on same-sex marriage - Salt Lake Tribune - http://www.sltrib.com/ci_1092...

November 7, 2008 from delicious - Comment - Like - Share

pics http://flickr.com/photos... - Jeremy Franklin

Jeremy Franklin

I hate that people expect you to read their Facebook status. What ever happened to sms or a phone call.

November 2, 2008 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

Do people really track all their friends' Facebook status? There's no way I could do that with every friend of mine. - Jesse Stay

3 more comments

I'm with @Jesse... maybe I don't log into Facebook enough but that just seems crazy. - Paulo Elias from twhirl

Now, one thing that would be nice would be if I could track only certain friends via RSS, like I can on FriendFeed. I can track all via RSS on FB, but not specific friends that I'm aware of. - Jesse Stay from twhirl

I think there is a movement to be aware of a friend's status because people are publishing their emotions. - Jeremy Franklin

Jeremy, I don't think it's appropriate to expect anyone to read all of your status updates. I have almost 800 friends, I know many with 1-3,000 friends or more, all people we know. There's no way you could track all of them. - Jesse Stay from twhirl

Robert Scoble

My addiction to iPhone and FriendFeed has definitely made me less productive and less able to appreciate what's in front of me at the moment. I lost my iPhone and found myself twitching today -- I'm not sure I'll get another one. I stopped using a Blackberry for the same reason.

October 4, 2008 - Comment - Like - Share

Sean McBride, Mathew A. Koeneker, Russellreno and 20 other people liked this

T-Mobile G1 time? - Brandon Titus

31 more comments

Brandon: that has an even better keyboard. I think I'll stay with Nokia devices that have regular phone keyboards that are hard to text into. - Robert Scoble

Productivity is overrated, Robert. - Pete D

I don't do the smart phone thing for the reason you mentioned Robert, but FriendFeed really destroyed my ability to focus on anything for more than 30 seconds. I've been ignoring FriendFeed for larger and larger chunks of time and find myself not missing it at all after about a week. - Mark Trapp

Mark: I can see myself joining you. - Robert Scoble

Brian - Had to rework my lists a couple of times but readily admit I spend a too much time here. On the other hand, a lot of it has been productive in a lot of ways. - Charlie Anzman

Agree. I left FF for about two weeks, and when I returned, something felt different. I spend a lot of time here but, as Mark said, I find myself not missing it as earlier. - Mladen Srdić

I understand. not sure if that's good or bad. lol - Erin @queenofspain

Mladen and Brian and Mark: is it because there's less and less tech news in between cute videos and pictures and funny news stories? - Robert Scoble

"with Nokia devices that have regular phone keyboards that are hard to text into" -- thanks Robert, I will inform my colleagues that ITU keyboard has this kind of reputation :) - A. T.

Christopher - I get concerned when I hear comments like that. It takes 'a little' time but the controls are here to see and respond to what you like. Just create your own channels. Still one of the best networking and discovery games in town. - Charlie Anzman

Christopher: I've noticed this behavior about early adopters. It happens in every online community I've been a part of since the mid 1980s (yes, that's how long I've been doing online community stuff). I thought FriendFeed would be different because you could join rooms that have smaller groups of people in them and also make a list of only your closest friends and avoid the noise. Why aren't these working for you? - Robert Scoble

Robert, maybe: I still make sure to go through Google reader just as regularly as I always have, and I feel informed. With FriendFeed, I'm reading things I already read in reader or saw on TV. The only things it keeps me informed on is specific people, and those updates, for most people, are few and far between. You said Google reader makes you smarter: I think that's the same thing. With GReader, I can spend an hour or less, get informed about the topics that interest me, and actually have an end point. - Mark Trapp

It isn't the devices we use, it is us. That said, I would rather have the functionality and the negative side effects than another thing take its place and not have the functionality. - David A. Levine

David: I don't agree with that. An iPhone is akin to living above a bar for an alcoholic. Nokia's web browsers are a LOT harder to use so I don't even attempt to use them, most of the time, where when I have an iPhone in my hands it's hard to get me to do anything else. - Robert Scoble

I don't mean to be rude, but shouldn't we exhibit self control at some point. I love the tech news, discussions, and Twitter, but I can focus on other things when needed. - Jeremy Franklin

I haven't really used FF and don't miss it. Twitter -- now there's another story. I got an iPhone so that I could Twitter any time/place/thing (to be fair, my PDA died 2 weeks before and I missed an important meeting as a result). I paid for Twittelator instead of using the free apps. On my desktop I have TweetDeck with one Twitter identity and Twhirl (LOVE them both) with the other. Twitter is my number 1 news source and I am finding out a lot more about my world because of the tweeters I follow. - A.J.

Agree with Mark again. My main news sources are Google reader and rss crunchers, like Feedheads and Feedly (i don't use it anymore, but I'll give it another shot). I once started a thread for sharing via Google reader and got a fine response of about 20 people. Interesting way to get some interesting content, beside tech news. - Mladen Srdić

There's some stupid stuff on FF that I could do with out, and then there's the issue that some people rather post tech stuff to rooms rather then their main feed. - Colide81 (James)

It's all about self discipline. Switch it off when it's too distracting. If needed turn off wifi. - Peter van Teeseling from twhirl

@pvantees the problem is that addiction overrides discipline. - ·[▪_▪]·

My girlfriend pointed out that I wasn't able to watch a movie or tv show with her without thumbing through posts on Google Reader for the iPhone at the same time. I had to lose that habit, lest I succumb to a meta-relationship to go along with all my meta-interactions online. - Shay Frendt

Sounds like a new group of 'recognized disorders' for the Psych community ... luckily, there's now help thanks to passed legislation (that was attached to the bailout bill??!!) http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/triage... - Charlie Anzman

I got my FF addiction under control but I think I've lost my grip again. I have to get it together again. It's causing a general lack of ability to concentrate, I just want to check for something new all the time. - xero

I've started microblogging more when I bought iPhone 3G. If thats more productive or not I don't know, but its fun. I love my iPhone! - Svartling

There is just the need to know how to control yourself... if you know how to control yourself there will be no addiction... - Edoardo Piccolotto

But isn't the new generation of mobile devices, micro sharing services and tools opening up a whole new form of organic communications enablement that has the potential to change everything. What if the mobile device is our communications hub/router/data store, freeing us from our desks & enabling a wider group of people to engage like never before -- Cheers, Christopher :) - Christopher

Brien - Watching the river is a pleasure. Productivity is another kind of activity. Do pleasure and productivity mix? Fun and work? - Jimmy Walker

Being connected is a *good* thing. However, it takes discipline. If you can't control when you use it and when you don't, it's probably best not to have an iPhone. I hope I can teach my kids this - it's a valuable skill. - Jesse Stay

I don't surf the net that much on my BB Curve since I have my laptop in front of me most of the day. If I was mobile like you are, then I'd definitely be using my phone to access http://FFtogo.com a bunch! You're in a tough situation...I'd probably cave in and buy a replacement within 3 days! ha, ha! I was highly temped to buy the iPhone just because of your love for it, as well as numerous other buddies of mine who swear by it. However, I am a cautious buyer of new technology, and opted to go with BB - Susan Beebe

Interesting thread. - Mathew A. Koeneker

People that don't have an iPhone just don't realize how fully functional the mobile version of Safari is. Unless the site is Flash based or the detect it's a mobile phone browser (I'd rather they didn't do that for the iPhone), it looks and functions identical to the desktop web experience. Even crazy script AJAX-y stuff. - Paul Reynolds

i am addicted to my blackberry. it never leaves my side. - Krista K

Jeremy Franklin

Obama - Sing For Change - http://www.youtube.com/watch...

October 2, 2008 from delicious - Comment - Like - Share

disturbing - Jeremy Franklin

Jeremy Franklin

This American Life - The Giant Pool of Money - http://www.thislife.org/Radio_E...

September 30, 2008 from delicious - Comment - Like - Share

The Sub-Prime crisis - Jeremy Franklin

Jeremy Franklin

Talking Is Good; Too Much Talking May Not Be - NYTimes.com - http://www.nytimes.com/2008...

September 11, 2008 from delicious - Comment - Like - Share

Interesting - Jeremy Franklin

Robert Scoble

I am standing in a news store in SFO surrounded by newspapers and magazines and Twitter and FriendFeed on my iPhone are more interesting.

August 10, 2008 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

team bonino, Jonathan Fusellier, Olivier and 26 other people liked this

Isn't that usually the case. - Jeremy Franklin

16 more comments

Ditto. - Kevykev

Welcome to the new world... - Håkan Dahlström

That's because you are supposed to read them. Not look at superficial headlines. - - Todd Hoff

I usually find out about news stories on Twitter long before I see it on the news or read it in the paper. - Mike Hussein Cohen

Todd: I didn't know that! :-) I am reading Time who has a cover feature about Rick Warren, a guy I interviewed back in January. The thing is Time can't go interactive the way you all do. - Robert Scoble

I think it's because with Twitter and Friendfeed there's a much smaller gap between you and the people "behind" the data. They're actually real people out there. Interactivity is a part of that. Sure, there are real journalists behind the magazine articles, and they're interesting too, but I think a lot of the time what we really want is to feel connected and in touch/ - Nathan Rein

It's just that I feel like I'm in a losing battle backing the side of reflection. When I look at Time it's full of interesting stuff (stretching, solar power, anthrax, evangelicals, etc). Immediate interaction is so powerfully rewarding (dopamine) it can shout down less immediate pleasures. I wrote about this about a billion years ago in The Internet is a Denial of Service Attack on Your Brain (http://tinyurl.com/npzo9). It has only become worse since. - Todd Hoff

Well, don't you control what you look at in Twitter or FriendFeed? If there was a news site where you got customized news by subscribing to individual authors, it would be a seriously interesting comparison. - Rishabh Mishra (p248)

@Bob Blunk: Print news is anything but dead. It is alive, kicking and in places such as India, Brazil (+12% in the last year) and other developing countries (http://tinyurl.com/6dr4tb). Bear in mind that these are countries where the use of mobile phones is growing far faster than in the developed world so it's not simply a lack of tech that is pushing people to print. Incidentally, I read that in a hard copy version of the Economist, while sat on the loo (still not somewhere I prefer to take electronics). - mattpovey

What will happen to "Front porch" society and the newspaper? Or the Barber shop and the newspaper? I long for the "flying roll" fired from a speeding Western Flyer and opening the lid of the magic milk box to find a sweating glass gallon at 6am. ;) - Melanie Reed

people want content via the distribution method that works best for them - not what works best for the content providers. newspapers and magazines are an endangered species in America as people choose newspaper and magazines less and less. This trend will continue as computer screens achieve higher-resolution and digital content distribution networks mature. Can't say it's a bad thing - more immediate, personalized delivery + wouldn't hurt to save a few trees along the way. - Morgan

With the fresh and local movement taking off I'm guessing we'll see solar milk delivery trucks making the rounds again any month now. The news paper delivery will only happen in once yearly old town reenactments :-) - Todd Hoff

The way things are going, let's hope there are a few newspapers and magazines left on the stand in a few years. I still enjoy them. Like so many others in media, most are wondering where to find the next revenue stream. - Charlie Anzman

I find this is always the case. However, magazines are often more entertaining and they don't require wi-fi ;) - Ryan

I'm feeling the same here in Italy. - Federico Bolsoman

yep. I keep staring at FF and Greader instead of reading books and mags, since I got a smartphone... - team bonino

Hey Scoble, please meet Zio Bonino, aka Eio aka Phonk. This is the CRAZIEST, GREATEST, FUNNIEST blogger in Italy. It's addictive too. You've been warned! :) - Federico Bolsoman

Jeremy Franklin

"For Those Once Behind Bars, A Nudge to the Voting Booth" By Krissah Williams Thompson - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...

August 11, 2008 from delicious - Comment - Like - Share

TALLAHASSEE -- Herbert Pompey had gone through rehab, stayed sober, held a job, married and started a landscaping business in the two years since he walked out of Taylor Correctional Institution. But what Pompey hadn't done -- and what he assumed a string of felony drug and DUI convictions would... - Jeremy Franklin

Jeremy Franklin

What Bush Got Right - http://www.newsweek.com/id...

August 10, 2008 from delicious - Comment - Like - Share

Not much. - Jeremy Franklin

Jeremy Franklin

Steal This Hook? Girl Talk Flouts Copyright Law - NYTimes.com - http://www.nytimes.com/2008...

August 8, 2008 from delicious - Comment - Like - Share

Oh F yeah!! - Jeremy Franklin

Jeremy Franklin › Comments