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FriendFeed API v2: Real-time, OAuth, file attachments, and more - http://blog.friendfeed.com/2009...
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"Today we are launching version 2 of the FriendFeed API for beta testing. We focused on making the API simpler to use, and we added number of compelling new features." Documentation: http://friendfeed.com/api...
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
OAuth? Sweet. Thanks a lot for all the new good stuff in the API: can't wait to use it.
- Mark Trapp
very nice. great work!
- Alfredo 亜瑠布れっど
Yet another reason to like Bret. :-)
- Jesse Stay
Great!!!
- YungSang
from FriendFoo
nice!
- Daniel Rust
good job guys, I bet devs are jumping high right now
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Sweet, congrats!
- Ivan Zuzak
nice, good to see OAuth support, this will enable a larger 3rd party ecosphere around FriendFeed, I hope
- Jeroen De Miranda
After going through the documentation and playing around with some feeds, I love the fact that you can now see the subscriber lists of people who have their feeds set to private as long as you are subscribed to them and authenticate (mimicking the main site functionality). One thing that's absent is a discussion of Direct Messages. Do they show up in feeds if you authenticate? How do we find just direct messages?
- Mark Trapp
Mark: direct messages are accessed using the feed ID "filter/direct". Read more about feed IDs at http://friendfeed.com/api.... Also direct messages appear in the "home" feed.
- Benjamin Golub
Benjamin: ahhh, I see it now. I missed it when skimming that list over. Thanks!
- Mark Trapp
Can you post the wget version of the command line?
- Gabe
Gabe: wget --user=bgolub --password=passwd --post-file=MyPhoto.jpg http://friendfeed-api.com/v2... should work. In theory. Edit: nope. I'm not sure it's possible to do with wget.
- Mark Trapp
Thanks God it is New API.
- AlpB.
from iPod
Nice progress here with this release!
- Micah
I love it!
- friday night
Why is wget questionable?
- Gabe
Gabe: wget doesn't support multipart forms as a design decision. If you post a file, FriendFeed returns a 404, and if you post data, the query is too long for wget to handle.
- Mark Trapp
Good work, look forward to seeing what developers can create
- Joe Dawson
doublepluslike
- Vezquex
curl FTW.
- Jeremy Kunz
This is great, FriendFeed team. Good job.
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
Woowoo, bgolub's password is “passwd” ;-)
- Amit Patel
Amit: I wonder how many people tested that :)
- Benjamin Golub
Thanks to bgolub posting his password, I now have all of FriendFeed's secret documents about notorious users, useless metrics, Justin Timberlake's promoting FF on Oprah's show, hiring Colbert as a spokesperson, Ev Williams being just a “distraction”. TechCrunch is going to love this! ;)
- Amit Patel
Yes big big thanks to the whole team for all their hard work!!
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
from iPhone
thank you;) waiting for the release :) loving clone
- abdellah
from FriendFeed API Example
Yay subscribers exposed!
- EricaJoy
Finally OAuth, I had a hard time memorizing my remote key.
- Hugh Isaacs II
This is indeed very cool, anybody started on a c# version?
- Jesper Lind
Gillmor Gang, recording live today 1pm PST participate at http://www.building43.com/realtim...
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who's on today?
- dlature
I am on
- Kevin Marks
Hi guys
- Keith Teare
hi, folks, it's a beautiful Saturday in Chicagoland
- Jerome Hughes
I am on now, waiting for the call.
- Robert Scoble
Sorry that we are running late.
- Robert Scoble
We are about to start.
- Robert Scoble
I'm waiting :-)
- Keith Teare
Late starts are easier to make for the rest of us. ;-)
- Ian McGee
is this becoming the regular day?
- Jeroen De Miranda
max gillmor!
- Jerome Hughes
Jeroen: nah, it's just that a lot of us have been traveling the past couple of weeks. Next week is gonna be tough for me to make it, because I'll be inside Facebook's datacenter.
- Robert Scoble
thanks.... checked in yesterday, so that is why I am asking ;-)
- Jeroen De Miranda
you'd think facebook's datacentre would have decent connectivity
- Kevin Marks
Kevin: yeah, except I'm afraid to jack in! :-)
- Robert Scoble
Only if you connect "Open Compute" compatible devices! ;)
- Daniel Chow
Last United flight I did had no WiFi. Few weeks ago.
- Keith Teare
Levy also wrote Hackers... what do you think about Mike Elgan's Computerworld opinion post on "Larry Page's first mistake"? http://www.computerworld.com/s...
- Jerome Hughes
Google has a key to the future of social. The Address Book in Android. Social IS Mobile and the Address book is the graph.
- Keith Teare
yes Keith, exactly. Android is a huge source of useful information
- Kevin Marks
Social isn't primarily related to search. That is a blind alley. its about sharing and communicating.
- Keith Teare
Elgan talks about "the party"
- Jerome Hughes
good remark on UStream still using Flash.... my MBA is running hot, 76 degrees Celsius right now...
- Jeroen De Miranda
http://news.cnet.com/8301-10... was saying youtube will commission
- Kevin Marks
Youtube vs Netflix- who will dominate streaming?
- Tim Jones
Tim: both for different reasons. YouTube is my favorite, though, because I'm a media producer.
- Robert Scoble
nah, Google wants more Android apps stores out there- more people to access Google search
- Tim Jones
where's Apple streaming?
- Tim Jones
depends how you define streaming... Apple does stream to AppleTV
- Kevin Marks
Apple streaming (whatever it is) vs Netflix vs Youtube? how many Apple TV sold vs maybe Xbox that also streams Netflix?
- Tim Jones
im getting my android apps from the amazon marketplace already, and they took my credit card to give me my "free" angry birds rio, very clever
- Julio Fernandez
Kindle platform vs iBooks?
- Tim Jones
the amazon marketplace is amazon's
- Julio Fernandez
Except perhaps for Buzz. ;-)
- Ian McGee
Facebook checkin is pretty popular
- Tim Jones
4sq is more mainstream than Latitude. Im seeing 4sq deals in Sugar Land, TX which is a suburb in Houston
- Kashif Khan
latitude keeps turning itself off with every google maps update on android
- Kevin Marks
Latitude regularly sends me reminder emails that it's on -- unlikely I'll forget.
- Ian McGee
google navigation is probably hugely used
- Kevin Marks
Google navigation is big. thats one of the highlights of an android device
- Kashif Khan
Nikesh Arora was a President at Google (along with Larry and Sergey) until the reorg before last
- Kevin Marks
Steve... CC defines as... disruptive vs. sustaining innovations
- Jerome Hughes
good that google is thinking long term?
- Tim Jones
surface
- Jerome Hughes
microsoft still most profitable of all tech companies
- Tim Jones
Tim: I like that about Google. But Microsoft has TONS of R&D too (which led to surface and Kinect)
- Robert Scoble
Kinect was acquired, no?
- Ian McGee
Ian: the hardware was licensed from a startup in Israel.
- Robert Scoble
(But agree in general; R&D is good)
- Ian McGee
But they were already doing lots of work on new input methods.
- Robert Scoble
& IBM does more basic research by far for this reason, hence Watson
- Jerome Hughes
Amazingly MS left Kinect open -- that's driving lots of activity. Witness implementation of Google April fools joke
- Ian McGee
Ian agreed.
- Robert Scoble
MSFT getting smarter about open source
- Kevin Marks
Apple's sterile, totalitarianism gives me the scary chill vs more fun, woolly, throw it in the wall and see what's sticks approach
- Tim Jones
for old folks, it's a fashion, for young folks, games are life
- Jerome Hughes
It's not about playinggames
- Ian McGee
Think of it more as improved feedback, attention to user experience, corner store friendliness
- Ian McGee
andrew... fun wins!
- Jerome Hughes
the gamification approach is less attractive overall than a phatic one
- Kevin Marks
is silence in radio like white space in print?
- Kevin Marks
Black Ops is fun!
- Tim Jones
to disrupt, an established company typically needs a skunkworks operation that can handle different business drivers as good opportunities
- Jerome Hughes
Dead air is anathema to Google.
- Alex de Soto
kevin - this page intentionally left blank
- Jerome Hughes
my last tweet was 'peanut butter and bacon'
- Kevin Marks
if the rest of your content is good, your followers will tolerate plenty of that sort of stuff
- Jerome Hughes
More than a phrase - a startup!
- Ian McGee
eating those dots on Waze is fun
- Tim Jones
kevin ~ http://baconfestchicago.com/
- Jerome Hughes
if they can get Andrew to talk intelligently, that's a real feat
- Kevin Marks
The envy economy
- Ian McGee
Google paid off Apple to have their search boxes in their products
- Kevin Marks
that delusion does seem to parallel MS w/ Vista, plenty on that in the Elgan "LP's first blunder" post
- Jerome Hughes
Money comes through search advertising on Android
- Keith Teare
not direct
- Keith Teare
App stores are a fringe business for both google and apple, but core for amazon
- Kevin Marks
Google gives to me for free
- Tim Jones
But Android is NOT that interesting fro developers yet. Size of units shipped not the key number. It id $ spent though app store
- Keith Teare
gCheckout for me
- Jerome Hughes
Android is new Symbian
- Keith Teare
ubiquitous but boring
- Keith Teare
Business trusts both Google and Amazon with their credit cards.
- Alex de Soto
very true, Alex
- Jerome Hughes
consumers don't care that developers are concerned about Android
- Tim Jones
Andrew, it tells you validated information vs. possible trolls
- Jerome Hughes
and Elgan points out that they have plenty of building blocks that need an integration that's a party
- Jerome Hughes
Aardvark is still asking questions, but at much lower rate.
- Ian McGee
sustaining innovation in search vs. an integrated solution that could disrupt search
- Jerome Hughes
Goog hired Ed Chi to inject social scents into search http://rww.to/hY9AYg
- clive boulton
"we can't do that because it would disrupt the cash cow, and our current customers say they don't want it"
- Jerome Hughes
yyyyyeeeeeeesssss!!!!!
- Robert Scoble
google doesn't tend to worry about disrupting the cash cow
- Kevin Marks
<== routed trucks by shuffling 96 column cards on a table like the one on which your iMac sits, Robert
- Jerome Hughes
"we can't do that because it would disrupt the cash cow, and our current customers say they don't want it", and still we continue to make most money in tech -Microsoft
- Tim Jones
Tim: I've seen lots of companies that used to be market leaders and used to make a lot of money who are gone now.
- Robert Scoble
Microsoft will just take longer to fall because people hate change but the change is afoot!
- Robert Scoble
whatever Microsoft is doing continues to work
- Tim Jones
after years and years of MS bashing
- Tim Jones
Tim: absolutely false. If it was working the stock price would go up.
- Robert Scoble
or they'll do other things that matter in skunkworks operations, possibly, if they can resist squashing success
- Jerome Hughes
ok ok i like the cr-48 over my xp netbook
- Tim Jones
But Googles core is search and advertising. Not that useful if you want to beat Facebook and Twitter
- Keith Teare
Going back to the core won't help
- Keith Teare
But better than professional execs
- Keith Teare
"professional"
- Keith Teare
Enron's stock price was also going up at one time
- Tim Jones
better to innovate in a skunkworks
- Jerome Hughes
or many
- Jerome Hughes
Page and Ballmer should swap , lets see what happens
- clive boulton
need to make everyone a skunkworks. challenge is collaborating
- Kevin Marks
Skunkworks has the advantage of being able to ignore existing customers & revenue streams
- Ian McGee
Google should focus on how to better index social, not on creating a better social.
- Alex de Soto
so they can compete with what they might eventually subsume
- Jerome Hughes
/nod Jerome
- Ian McGee
skunkworks was the way Google Wave was developed, outside of the USA.... did not work out...
- Jeroen De Miranda
it only works if tested by a market, etc.
- Jerome Hughes
and even then, not only
- Jerome Hughes
Wave was great !!! but none of my friends were on it. The concept of invite only killed it imo
- Kashif Khan
oops, "only" = "
- Jerome Hughes
they stopped doing Wave or stopped doing LSD?
- dlature
"always"
- Jerome Hughes
Levy's next book should be on the impact of LSD on the software industry
- Ian McGee
were they perhaps not allowed to? that's what usually takes down the disruptors in the skunkworks
- Jerome Hughes
As a CS student at that time, it would have been perfect for our software projects and classes
- Kashif Khan
Wave is like WebOS- someone else will use it in the future
- Tim Jones
Goog's new head of social http://www-users.cs.umn.edu/~echi...
- clive boulton
Ian, I think Markoff wrote that one
- Kevin Marks
no way for a new customer set to invent cool stuff with it
- Jerome Hughes
What the Dormouse Said: How the Sixties Counterculture Shaped the Personal Computer Industry' by John Markoff http://amzn.to/eZ3nEN
- Kevin Marks
remembering CASE tools delivered in the '90s with a single set of templates and no template editor
- Jerome Hughes
ridiculous invite system killed wave too. Wait was forever
- Kashif Khan
read the FF thread
- Tim Jones
Thanks Kevin; looks great!
- Ian McGee
Friendfeed realtime with Track connecting FB and Twitter with filtering based on your usage.
- Aron Michalski
and there's Doc
- Tina Chase Gillmor
throw it all on the wall and see what's sticks
- Tim Jones
yay, Doc! - and thanks, Ian
- Jerome Hughes
How does Doc know more than everyone even without being here? He's the man...;-)
- Aron Michalski
Personal beats social
- Kevin Marks
jealousy is one of the seven deadly sins
- Jerome Hughes
selling something other than advertising
- Jerome Hughes
Google could make the cloud experience totally baked in, especially for us Android users.
- Aron Michalski
a way for customers to invent cool stuff with it
- Jerome Hughes
TV- the bigger the screen, the better
- Tim Jones
TV is all about wasting time.
- Alex de Soto
They could make the amazon cloud thing bake into all the features we already use...and for less.
- Aron Michalski
Alex: bingo!
- Robert Scoble
Aron - good to see you out here, an entrance sort of like Doc's
- Jerome Hughes
Black Ops on a 50 inch is friggin awesome
- Tim Jones
we can afford all of this, dammit!
- Jerome Hughes
last minute carpet bombing, talking out my butt...great to see you Jerome.
- Aron Michalski
Cricket is like baseball done right
- Kevin Marks
YouTube could be very social. That's Google too!
- Alex de Soto
Agree re social tv...
- Ian McGee
How can I like your comment Kevin lol
- Kashif Khan
missed it last week and then caught up
- Jerome Hughes
(and the girls flash, eh Kevin? ;-)
- Aron Michalski
cool. Doc brought his monday - friday energy
- Tina Chase Gillmor
cricket is gamification of baseball- more points
- Kevin Marks
we'll see in KC, Kansas
- dlature
And it can be a time waster :) ( it does run all day )
- Kashif Khan
Drunk in the sun...
- Aron Michalski
I want Google to show Community Net Access and usage beat up on the big carriers via competition
- dlature
Kevin's walking on dangerous ground
- Tim Jones
Golf is a good walk spoilt
- Kevin Marks
Google calendar does a great job with time zones. Something Facebook doesn't seem to be able to do.
- Ian McGee
I understand games, I don't understand watching sport
- Kevin Marks
the singularity is at hand
- Tim Jones
Kevin-- first saw actual cricket in background on HD screen in Indian restaurant w/ new clients in BF, Chain o' Lakes, IL, some Cubs fans ignoring, was distracted when shouldn't have been
- Jerome Hughes
ok, time to watch The Masters, txs for the reminder Robert!
- Julio Fernandez
Kevin: watching sport is a great way to waste time!
- Robert Scoble
participating... the killer app
- Jerome Hughes
read this about cricket: http://sports.espn.go.com/espn...
- Kevin Marks
Giant vs Dodgers- Monday- text it!
- Tim Jones
why is wasting time more valuable than saving time (consumer vs enterprise...)
- clive boulton
cycling 50m riding two trains vs. driving 2 hours to & fro said BF = more fun & costs less
- Jerome Hughes
cliveb: because time wasters buy more beer than productive people. :-)
- Robert Scoble
will do, Kevin, was confused :D
- Jerome Hughes
Robert: i'd better start selling beer
- clive boulton
ADT, was that a payroll service?
- Jerome Hughes
cliveb: that is Anheuser Busch's job. You should just take a transaction fee for aggregating time wasters into an efficient crowd! :-)
- Robert Scoble
Robert - that keeps working while the wasters have jobs & money
- Jerome Hughes
when you're playing, you're at least learning something
- Jerome Hughes
Google and Facebook should merge?
- Tim Jones
Learn alot watching this show too. Lasers to heat up his food - who knew?
- Ian McGee
robert: sound advice, am working at consumerizing the enterprise
- clive boulton
Ping 2.0 or will it be 3.1?
- Jerome Hughes
Will Twitter let Apple build a client into iOS then? ;-)
- Ian McGee
considering momentum, why would they not?
- Jerome Hughes
Ian: yes. Deeply integrated, I hear. More than possibly just a client.
- Robert Scoble
what happened to Apple Ping?
- Tim Jones
Tim-- look ahead, not behind :D
- Jerome Hughes
yes...blow up cable TV as we know it
- dlature
There's that 3D camera...Or is it Larry Page?
- Alex de Soto
told some cyclists about that, Robert, they totally got it
- Jerome Hughes
GoPro 3D hero!
- clive boulton
Need the sailboat mount for that camera
- Ian McGee
3D Gillmor Gang - when?
- clive boulton
yeah, Gillmor Gang in HD
- dlature
ADT! ADT!
- Jerome Hughes
3D Tri-caster? Is that 9?
- Ian McGee
waste time
- Tim Jones
Good show everyone
- Ian McGee
Good show. Not a waste of time.
- Alex de Soto
cliveb: 3D is VERY hard to do. It's a real pain in the ass, actually.
- Robert Scoble
3D is a waste of time
- Kevin Marks
as are most disruptive technologies before they disrupt
- Jerome Hughes
Kevin: the ULTIMATE waste of time! :-)
- Robert Scoble
3D TV sales at Costco on the rise
- clive boulton
ADT in chat!
- Jerome Hughes
cliveb: 3D is very cool, except distribution sucks.
- Robert Scoble
really not convinced by 3d tv's
- Kevin Marks
Kevin: when you can do your own content it is mondo cool.
- Robert Scoble
like playing vs. watching
- Jerome Hughes
65 inch 3D vizio $3399 plus 3D direct TV channel (sweet)
- clive boulton
cliveb: Vizio is sending me one for my studio!
- Robert Scoble
Nice!!
- clive boulton
Yeah.
- Robert Scoble
Gotta figure out where to put it.
- Robert Scoble
glad to have reshuffled my dad's basement recroom yet again this week!
- Jerome Hughes
Smaller rooms w/ bigger walls
- clive boulton
it's been mine since he retired to the road 20 years ago... RIP, coming up on 3 years
- Jerome Hughes
prioritizing to less stuff = the magic answer
- Jerome Hughes
vote 4 more Scobleizer in 3D
- clive boulton
w/you, clive... full disclosure... bought it @marketValue enabling Dad's retirement
- Jerome Hughes
seeya.
- Robert Scoble
clive: the problem with 3D is it takes four times longer to process, edit, and upload.
- Robert Scoble
#FF still rawks! Robert... Thunderbolt!
- Jerome Hughes
Gillmor Gang, recording live today 2:30pm PST participate at http://www.building43.com/realtim...
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Ready!
- Kathleen Hassinger
recalling @pkedrosky predicted Eric Schmidt's exit (not 100%)
- clive boulton
We're on! :-) Welcome to the post-Schmidt world.
- Robert Scoble
inDinero wins best enterprisey
- clive boulton
it's comforting to know some things never change. We're still arguing over Pandora?
- Karoli
Robert, Jeremiah would love your ticket to the Crunchies
- Francine Hardaway
Hi Karoli:-)
- Francine Hardaway
I have gotten really good at dancing to Poker Face
- Francine Hardaway
What's Scrabble, grandpa
- Francine Hardaway
hi to Francine
- Allen Stern
rpts Gabby Giffords scrolling iPad
- clive boulton
Stock appreciation is taxed at a lower rate than salary so a $1 salary is really a much better deal.
- Todd Hoff
Canaletto? I like his paintings
- Kevin Marks
Ken Auletta http://www.newyorker.com/online...
- Ankush Narula
Cute, Kevin. But very few Americans get Renaissance painting references
- Francine Hardaway
observing a one way train from Redmond to Google Campus
- clive boulton
Your friends are content.
- Todd Hoff
I like contented friends, Todd.
- Kevin Marks
Then don't search them :-)
- Todd Hoff
such a gentle tone on the Gillmor Gang today. Are we setting the example for calmer discussion? :D
- Karoli
Karoli: it's so boring, huh? That's cause we're all tired. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Oracle positioning to grab Android to combat SAPs Sybase mobile?
- clive boulton
Robert, I figured you all were taking to heart the call for more polite discourse. The filibuster is dead, right? :D
- Karoli
It's a statement to the public - exactly - it's putting a young face on the company also
- Ankush Narula
Hi francine!
- Karoli
any chance Larry Page does a Jerry Yang...
- clive boulton
can anyone say Microsoft?
- Francine Hardaway
android vs iphone?
- Ankush Narula
expect social photo sharing from Apple soon
- Ankush Narula
who is coming to sxsw
- Allen Stern
me
- Robert Scoble
never been
- Tina Chase Gillmor
probably coming to sxw
- Kevin Marks
you guys should stream audio as well video doesn't work on low speed connections
- testbeta
did someone say Cloud companies? :-P
- Allen Stern
if google was smart they would stay away from social
- Allen Stern
allen, the problem is that they are smarter than they are sociable
- Kevin Marks
when having such a thing or even a project it is advisable that you keep basic version alive like Google has basic html for gmail
- testbeta
if facebook was smart they would stay away from search.
- Ciro Villa
Google seems more focused on Groupon lately
- Ankush Narula
Is Apple built to last....
- clive boulton
testbeta: I don't think we'll do that, sorry, but it's something we should reconsider.
- Robert Scoble
kevin - they need to own the business side, the utility side - not the social (which is short term) side
- Allen Stern
Allen: the thinking in the valley is that social will take away the business side.
- Robert Scoble
Yep Robert
- Allen Stern
i am working on a low speed connection Ustream doesn't work for me, you guys should give out topics too around which talks would revove that would help us users to give realtime updates
- testbeta
great analysis of the unique skills of Jobs by Steve Gillmor
- Jeroen De Miranda
allow me to say something that i want to write a blog post - the issue with google is the same issue with blackberry
- Allen Stern
Allen: except blackberry is totally screwed. :-)
- Robert Scoble
testbeta: sorry.
- Robert Scoble
Robert - if they follow my plan they can turn it around :) but if google keeps going on this social bit, they will be drifting right behind bberry
- Allen Stern
Christopher: looks neat, no apps, I won't buy one.
- Robert Scoble
why am i listening to a commercial for a mop ... named mint?
- Laura Norvig
Christopher: I'd rather have an Android tablet.
- Robert Scoble
Christopher: yup.
- Robert Scoble
Christopher: that's why Microsoft is still in a deep hole in mobile.
- Robert Scoble
Curation vs aggregation/filtering
- Ankush Narula
Christopher: I don't see it that way, but Android is definitely the way to go if you don't like the iPad for some reason.
- Robert Scoble
whoever asked if Apple was built to last? Every device I've bought from them still works and is still in use. 8 yrs later. No other brand I own is like that in the tech space.
- Karoli
In other words, there's very little oxygen for HP/Palm or RIM's PlayBook.
- Robert Scoble
Hulu does not have mad men (oh, maybe hulu plus but i don't think so)
- Laura Norvig
HULU? UGH
- Karoli
Hulu Desktop on mac mini with Remote Buddy is pretty nice actually
- Ankush Narula
Christopher you can't, right?
- Laura Norvig
Christopher you don't. That's actually why there's a monetization strategy for app developers.
- Robert Scoble
that would be too logical
- Laura Norvig
Christopher: Rome wasn't built in a day
- Ankush Narula
I hope Jony Ive takes over from Jobs.. he designed the first Emac, the ipod, iphone, ipad.. everything thats made Apple successful.
- kevin stephenson
Christopher: I agree that they should figure out how to get rid of that link now. Android definitely is nicer on that point. But that point isn't that big a deal in my experience.
- Robert Scoble
Hulu is the only service I've seen where you can pay for the privilege of being barraged with ads. no thanks.
- Karoli
Kevin: Jony is definitely one guy I love, but I don't think he's that good on stage and that's one of the major things they need to replace if Jobs goes.
- Robert Scoble
Free Hulu is better than Hulu Plus anyways.
- Laura Norvig
Robert/Kevin: Scott Forestall seems like the best pitchman at Apple
- Ankush Narula
Scobleizer's dead right - PC era app suite license revenues are nose diving (watch upcoming financial results)
- clive boulton
Christopher: if she doesn't ahve a computer they will set it up for her at the Apple store. But yeah, that hurts upgrades.
- Robert Scoble
The thing is with Android we aren't getting upgrades on the devices anyway due to carriers.
- Robert Scoble
Christopher: your 73-year-old-lady has no clue what a bootloader is.
- Robert Scoble
Bingo on the Windows / Facebook analogy. Facebook has traction. For now.
- Laura Norvig
Christopher and you could hook her iPad to your laptop too. Geesh.
- Robert Scoble
facebook's revenue is far lower than google no?
- Markus Kobler
mobile advertising will be next
- Laura Norvig
i would take a google ad over a facebook ad any day
- Allen Stern
who's going to the Crunchies today?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I'm probably going;
- Kevin Marks
Allen: I agree with that mostly. But the newer ads are more like Facebook pages. The brands are spending money to get people to spread their advertising for them (ala the Old Spice guy).
- Robert Scoble
People don't click on ads on Facebook. But they *will* click through from a brand's fan page to some kind of exclusive offer on the brand's site.
- Laura Norvig
Laura: exactly.
- Robert Scoble
so the DoubleClick part of google should be hurting? How did they do?
- Kevin Marks
i don't want my cloudcontacts ad on facebook showing up next to fat loss pills and zoosk personal ads
- Allen Stern
Kevin -please say hello if you do. text me at the party
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Ha, for the good luck, Danny, or because you are, "that kind of cheap bastard"?
- Laura Norvig
sounds like i am listening to someone read a gilmor techcrunch post.
- Allen Stern
let's move on thank you
- Allen Stern
I love my Roku. I do not have a DVR.
- Laura Norvig
We call it the "Rock-You" box. Actually, we have two of them
- Laura Norvig
tribal buzz says Google Seattle labs working on big relational SQL db. (makes no sense but...Redmond)
- clive boulton
I have a mac mini on the TV
- Kevin Marks
Me too
- Ankush Narula
I'm watching the Ustream on my TV actually
- Ankush Narula
I have an Apple TV and thinking of getting a Roku for my bedroom TV and getting rid of my DVR
- Francine Hardaway
46" head of Steve Gillmor
- Ankush Narula
That's really scary Ankush. It's scary enough seeing him one inch high. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Eric Schmidt in a Mickey Mouse suit?
- Joshua Dale
It's actually scarier when Kevin's screen comes up - he looks like Big Brother in the Mac commercial from 1984 at the moment
- Ankush Narula
perhaps it's the lighting
- Ankush Narula
the sun's shining through the window
- Kevin Marks
Ankrush - when you appearing in GQ?
- clive boulton
:-)
- Ankush Narula
this isn't a great seat in the afternoon for computer use
- Kevin Marks
Agreed about Ballmer.
- Mary B: #TeamMonique
I LOVE natural light
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Zuck to Blankstein (3 secs) http://vimeo.com/18919733
- clive boulton
If you lick the iPad do you get high?
- Ankush Narula
HT to Laura for Norvig's law
- Kevin Marks
Tina, look for me tonight
- Francine Hardaway
Francine - text me when you're there and we'll hang
- Tina Chase Gillmor
wait, whut? what law?
- Laura Norvig
Facebook has to penetrate China and India to grow a lot more, which seems unlikely
- Todd Hoff
Will a CDMA iPhone challenge that?
- Ankush Narula
handset share is still pwned by Nokia; plenty of growth replacing those
- Kevin Marks
Ah, I get brownie points for genetic association?
- Laura Norvig
btw, I totally agree that google is smarter than they are sociable
- Laura Norvig
and i doubt they will get to 50% social penetration!
- Laura Norvig
almost too much news in 1 week to cover
- clive boulton
we trust british accents
- Laura Norvig
which is weird, as the villain is always played by a Briton...
- Kevin Marks
but you sound smart!
- Laura Norvig
Bon voyage Robert
- Francine Hardaway
no one expects Brit villain...
- clive boulton
Reminds me of this bit by Eddie Izzard: http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Ankush Narula
Ankush: I am your wife. (we'll let you appear on back page of GQ)
- clive boulton
"Do you have a flag?"
- Kevin Marks
"Do they want tea?"
- Ankush Narula
Blast! you both know the script
- clive boulton
Last villainery http://vimeo.com/18919733
- clive boulton
I do know big chunks of Izzard by heart, he's the new Python thta way
- Kevin Marks
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- clive boulton
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There are TWO Gillmors on the Gillmor Gang this week!
- Robert Scoble
Live now on the Gillmor Gang with me, @stevegillmor @scobleizer @dangillmor @chrismessina http://building43.com/realtime
- Kevin Marks
no video here..
- Chris Jackson
We are restarting.
- Robert Scoble
Just hang out a few seconds.
- Robert Scoble
ok
- Chris Jackson
Dan Gillmor's video isn't working, so they are working on that and we'll start shortly. Sorry for the delay.
- Robert Scoble
A couple more seconds, looks like everything is working now.
- Robert Scoble
We're back.
- Chris Messina
Gillmor Gang recording session w/ Dan Gillmor, Chris Messina, Kevin Marks and Scoble - participate at: http://building43.com/realtime
- Cliff Gerrish
Kevin- you're muted.
- Cliff Gerrish
Kevin, I think I've fixed in on this side
- Cliff Gerrish
Congrats on the gig Dan, looking forward to reading you again
- Ross Mayfield
thanks Cliff - certainly OK here
- Kevin Marks
Shel Israel's Open Letter to Mark Zuckerberg http://globalneighbourhoods.net/2010...
- Moobie
Dan Gillmor's column on Mark Zuckerberg - what he does not how he sweats: http://www.salon.com/technol...
- Kevin Marks
The combination of 'terrific' and 'terrifying' sort of defines the edge of innovation.
- Cliff Gerrish
Yes.
- Chris Messina
Everyone's getting too excited. No matter how big Apple and Facebook get they are still just "nodes." Galaxies within a Universe. Relax.
- Stephen Pickering
But it's also about who's leading the debate in the marketplace, and how that changes consumer expectations [of what's possible, or should be possible].
- Chris Messina
It's not about technology, it's about people.
- Cliff Gerrish
Bret Taylor
- Stephen Pickering
"Designed Facebook's privacy policy" is now a political attack ad: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/technol...
- Kevin Marks
LEAVE MARK ALONE!
- Ross Mayfield
Privacy policy is going to be fluid for a long time. We're just going to have to get used to change in this area.
- Cliff Gerrish
@Ross LOL
- Cliff Gerrish
Scoble's talking about the public face of Business will be Facebook's not the enterprise in terms of functions
- Stephen Pickering
Enterprise Open Social is gaining a lot of stream
- Ross Mayfield
It's like the T.V. Networks of old
- Stephen Pickering
good comparison with enterprise software SalesForce by Robert
- Jeroen De Miranda
I've got your private twitter right here
- Ross Mayfield
People inherently trust Google much more than Facebook
- Stephen Pickering
I don't think people inherently trust any company. Trust is earned every day.
- Cliff Gerrish
Scoble seems to be arguing that Facebook needs someone who is better at scamming us on camera. Maybe Zuckerberg can't explain what they have done well simply because what they've done isn't good.
- jay morris
Maybe Facebook should hire BP's CEO?
- Chris Messina
@jay Well Google sort of has that model.
- Cliff Gerrish
Maybe I worded that wrong. Google's actions, and non actions have made it the most trusted Brand, and most Valuable Brand in the World
- Stephen Pickering
+1 Jay
- Stephen Pickering
Jay: you're onto something there. He hasn't explained the good very well.
- Robert Scoble
Chris: Hire BPs' CEO so Mark can get a life?
- Alex de Soto
Like Buffett said about Freddie Mac, "If you see one cockroach, there's more than likely a whole bunch more in there" As why he de invested
- Stephen Pickering
well, scoble, you use http://activitystrea.ms to express all of those likes and tags and comments
- Kevin Marks
All restaurants have cockroaches. All restaurants aren't Freddie Mac.
- Cliff Gerrish
Not too long ago net apps were all beta-beta-beta. users had base expectations that things would be funky and would change. Now the ugly Fcbook app makes a few changes on the fly and people freak out. Why?
- Frank Paynter
Kevin: show me a single system where I can drag a photo to and see all that stuff work.
- Robert Scoble
When "beta" loses its meaning — or a new class of user comes along and doesn't understand what it means — "beta" is no longer an effective disclaimer.
- Chris Messina
If you design for privacy it will crumble under its complexity. If you design for sharing it can respect privacy while being simply usable.
- Ross Mayfield
for it to work you need more than one system to do it, which is why it takes time to agree
- Kevin Marks
Microsoft continued to grow even though they were not trustworthy, doesn't mean they were right
- Stephen Pickering
we also need to design an experience that can be adopted incrementally (by users).
- Chris Messina
And just why did consumers trust Farmville with their information?
- Alex de Soto
They didn't — they simply wanted to play a game.
- Chris Messina
@chris +1
- Ross Mayfield
People aren't interested in hearing what Facebook is "doing." They only care if there's a problem.
- Cliff Gerrish
@chris this is like asking Phillipe Kahn to keep end users apprised of changes in the sensor apps on Apple prods.
- Frank Paynter
Isn't all this talk about trusting information just picking and choosing what "information" is defined as? Isn't every single interaction with any site information? Isn't, well, everything, information that can be captured? If you interact at all with the Internet, haven't you already trusted your information to something/someone?
- Kevin Costain
I expect that sites like Facebook are redefining what information is, and working to find new ways to capture (and possibly share) that information..
- Kevin Costain
Facebook is just a website... my credit union has tighter security but I've chosen to use each and do my best to make sure my use of one doesn't bleed into the other.
- Frank Paynter
opt in at every step is a function that we'd mostly turn off if we could. annoying
- Frank Paynter
exactly.
- Chris Messina
People somehow think they can control interactions in the online world that they know they can't in the offline world.
- Cliff Gerrish
Opt-In means off, and most probably don't even know how to turn it on..
- Kevin Costain
yep.
- Chris Messina
nobody changes defaults. and its easy to overwhelm users with a paradox of choice to the point where they paralyze
- Ross Mayfield
but those who do, probably really care and make deeper use of the system or tool.
- Chris Messina
is it true that Federated Media is making a play for Facebook?
- Frank Paynter
Frank: Huh? Where would FM come up with billions?
- Robert Scoble
transparency has to be on all levels - not just us at the bottom
- Xenophrenia
Yeah, really 25B and counting
- Stephen Pickering
gotcha!
- Frank Paynter
too much of this everyone has to be transparent talk seems to pertain to the 'masses' - those at the top have the right to keep things private - like corporations - it all has to be brought out - not just our stuff
- Xenophrenia
(no, really... J.Calacanis is helping FM get leverage by offering a lien on his car)
- Frank Paynter
most people have no real understanding of just how 'public' the internet is
- Xenophrenia
cool, EULAs on every packet
- Vezquex
I don't get why Scoble's anecdotes are dismissed because he's not an average user, but Steve's teenage daughter is an acceptable proxy for all teens
- Richard
we'd need "social EULAs" since the data would have social residue from multiple parties.
- Chris Messina
privacy from your parents is easier than privacy from the world
- Vezquex
people don't understand it - not that they don't care
- Xenophrenia
we federated email just fine.
- Chris Messina
We need an "information bureaucracy" in each packet. Self administered.. :)
- Kevin Costain
Xeno: I totally disagree.
- Robert Scoble
Nobody cares about identity theft until it happens. Nobody cares about health care until they are sick. Nobody cares about privacy until its broken.
- Ross Mayfield
Chris: but email STARTED federated and there's no network effect by not being on Gmail.
- Robert Scoble
robert - i know a lot of people that don't understand what is going on - and don't care because it's too difficult ...
- Xenophrenia
Humans would end up curled up in a ball in the corner if they had to worry about everything BEFORE these things affected them.
- Chris Messina
Richard, Scoble said 'teens don't care', hence mentioning specific teens. look at danah boyd's work for more
- Kevin Marks
Email didn't start federated!
- Chris Messina
Kevin: I didn't say they don't care I said they don't care about what we're talking about. They care about different kinds of things.
- Robert Scoble
RE email... Compuserve / AOL / etc = Facebook / Twitter / etc
- Ken Sheppardson
robert - what part don't you agree with (i've said a lot) ...
- Xenophrenia
Xeno: that people don't understand this.
- Robert Scoble
robert - i know a lot of people who don't understand it - my sister, a couple of brothers - i know a lot of people who think they do but they're actions show me they have no clue ....
- Xenophrenia
Steve obviously hasn't read history if he thinks Governments are a good bet
- Stephen Pickering
Xeno: well, cool. I know a lot of people who DO know and still don't care.
- Robert Scoble
It's not important if any individual understands it. It just needs to work as an ecosystem.
- Cliff Gerrish
"these services are not free" <- the crux of the issue! I like it when I can simply pay for content and services on the Net. I want to the creators to make a good living - what they do is really valuable. What about a pay model for Facebook?
- jay morris
Kevin: yah danah's work would have been a good citation to give. I also studied under Sonia Livingstone who has done extensive research in the UK on young people's use of ICT's. My point was more that it looked like a double-standard in dismissing one person's anecdotes while leaning on anothers.
- Richard
i understand and get sideswiped now and then - facebook created an account for me on scribd without asking me - i have an account and suddenly found myself in an account my_name_#### and it had my facebook profile picture in the profile. this disturbed me a lot .
- Xenophrenia
Scoble wants to give up more of his privacy, it's his business model.
- Cliff Gerrish
Privacy does still exist. We don't know what's being talked about inside the Bilderburg Meeting that's taking place right now, do we?
- Stephen Pickering
aren't they all hooked together in Frederick, <aryland already? Just saying...
- Frank Paynter
robert - but you can't say that people across the board understand this - i understand that people in you're circles do - i agree with the transparency - people don't think more often then don't understand or care from my experience ; )
- Xenophrenia
It just takes too much work to get those benefits today.
- Chris Messina
Privacy is what other people agree not to pass on.
- Cliff Gerrish
privacy is relative .... it means different things to different people
- Xenophrenia
Why doesn't Facebook use Pages for Public stuff and keep the main account private?
- Stephen Pickering
people have NO idea how much of their info is in databases everywhere
- Xenophrenia
Everything means different things to different people, that's how language works.
- Cliff Gerrish
@xeno +++
- Frank Paynter
People are upset when they see what connections are made. Credit rating agencies do more scary things
- Kevin Marks
Nor does it really affect them in ways that are clear.
- Chris Messina
Xeno: your are right that people don't know - but i think its hard to presume they don't care..
- Kevin Costain
cliff - touche ; )
- Xenophrenia
I think we don't actually really know.
- Chris Messina
... perhaps if they knew the value of "knowing" - they would care
- Kevin Costain
"Knowing is half the value."
- Chris Messina
I am sharing my private parts on the internet, this wasn't possible last week
- Ross Mayfield
x-rated youtubery?
- Frank Paynter
Are you also on Chatroulette?
- Chris Messina
Ross: Chatroulette? :-)
- Robert Scoble
I don't care much about brain surgery - but since my neice has a serious heart defect - i care a whole lot more about advancements in that regard..
- Kevin Costain
robert - there have been people who have lost their insurance coverage for having health information public ... or not been able to get insurance
- Xenophrenia
Xeno: and there are 40,000 people who die in cars every year. We still drive.
- Robert Scoble
Chatroulette is probably a good way of understanding what most people's expectations of privay are.
- Cliff Gerrish
I have Chatroulette in my Enterprise http://www.socialtext.com/blog...
- Ross Mayfield
Privacy isn't important as long as you're not important, but the second you come into some power, then it becomes important, for stuff can be used against you
- Stephen Pickering
Next.
- Chris Messina
Stephen: I expose my privacy so no one else can exploit it more than I already am.
- Robert Scoble
aww, off air
- Vezquex
embargoed ???
- Frank Paynter
There are companies that make money off people keeping people from knowing things.. Insurance comes to mind.. :)
- Kevin Costain
boo-urns
- Richard
disagree Stephen - when you are not important, those with power over you can use the information against you
- Kevin Marks
Robert I like that. You're turning a Lemon into Lemonade so to speak.
- Stephen Pickering
did Steve Balmer hack in and turn off the ustream?
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Streams down. Stand by.
- Cliff Gerrish
Back now.
- Cliff Gerrish
Oh no! Down!
- Kevin Costain
darn, wonder what Steve was amazed about
- R Macdonald
robert - ? i was just making a comment in regards to your saying that you put your health info online - not sure what that has to do with cars ; )
- Xenophrenia
Xeno: you said doing that is dangerous. Life is dangerous.
- Robert Scoble
Yeah, that's a good point Kevin.
- Stephen Pickering
But we do thinks when we get good things in return for putting ourselves in harms way.
- Robert Scoble
If I want to go to the grocery store and buy some tomatoes I need to drive.
- Robert Scoble
PC = "personal computing". By definition, the iPad is also one.
- Chris Messina
Stream's down again. Stand by.
- Cliff Gerrish
The feed just went private ;)
- Alex de Soto
Here's a 10" Android tablet: http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Kevin Marks
robert - yes i know - which is why the transparency has to be everywhere - with everything or those with power will use it against us
- Xenophrenia
Yes, Robert, but the guy who hits you if he was drunk or something does get charged, even if he's famous and has power
- Stephen Pickering
i do agree with you for the most part robert - but there are contexts for us here with little or no voice that seem to get forgotten ...
- Xenophrenia
we are working on getting the stream back up
- Robert Scoble
My point being we are letting FB off the hook because they are popular and still growing. They're guilty, plain and simple. But we're giving them a pass because they're "Hot"
- Stephen Pickering
well, it's been real... bummed that the feed collapsed here though.
- Frank Paynter
Stephen: what are they guilty of?
- Robert Scoble
but wait! maybe there's bandwidth in building 44!
- Frank Paynter
back
- Vezquex
chris - yes, it's just a PC - but in a new form-factor, with a super simple OS and UI. The differences are enough to deserve a new name.
- jay morris
Streams back up.
- Cliff Gerrish
Those questions that Walt and Kara posed to Marc, that he couldn't answer. They fooled users to join based on privacy and then flipped the switch
- Stephen Pickering
I wonder if we will ever see Microsoft make some really bold moves?
- Jim Posner
Chris was just explaining that he thinks kids won't know the joy of hardware hacking.
- Cliff Gerrish
Robert: I think things become more popular as the risk, or opportunity cost, is either downplayed or reduced to nothing. Everyone is seeking something of pleasure or value and wants to face no risk in the process. Downplaying all the risk (of, say, driving) is the job the salesperson
- Kevin Costain
robert - is there a way to contact facebook with issues - they're info@facebook.com address is no longer active
- Xenophrenia
there's no reason a tablet can't be a real computer. Android is proving this.
- Vezquex
i'm not saying they are idiotic robert
- Xenophrenia
please don't accuse me of this ....
- Xenophrenia
I am happy with Windows 7 and my iPad. Jailbroken iPad is pretty cool.
- Jim Posner
It basically means that freedom and choice will be reserved for those who can afford it.
- Chris Messina
Jim, does Jailbroken iPad still get updated software?
- Stephen Pickering
It's like saying kids won't learn to play rock and roll because the record player isn't a guitar.
- Cliff Gerrish
Kevin, Apple isn't 'killing' flash are they? They are just saying it can't live on our mobile devices.
- jay morris
I think jailbreaking encourages kids to hack
- Jim Posner
you're car is does not my life on it
- Xenophrenia
I really think we're over reacting. Facebook and Apple are Galaxies, but the internet is the Universe. They are still just 'nodes'
- Stephen Pickering
the web means we can program easily - that is still true
- Kevin Marks
Most of the jailbreak videos are from kids
- Jim Posner
if you want to put it in that anology - facebook is like having your info on someone elses car ; )
- Xenophrenia
apple.com/html5
- Chris Messina
Chris: Safari required. Chrome doesn't work.
- Robert Scoble
robert - you do realize that i'm not saying everyone is an idiot but that there are those who don't understand? ... and that we can't just ignore them because they are beneath us?
- Xenophrenia
See also: http://chromeexperiments.com
- Chris Messina
Xeno: My info is in millions of cars. I drive a Ford Ranger and millions of other Ford Ranger drivers know exactly what my dashboard looks like.. :)
- Kevin Costain
There is an incredible efficiency is products that 'just work.'
- Cliff Gerrish
Brian: exactly.
- Robert Scoble
Xeno: computers used to only be for the highly trained. Now they are for everyone. We'll get there.
- Robert Scoble
There is incredible value in products that 'just work.'
- Chris Messina
Seem kicking around Facebook and Apple is the favorite pastime of many of the digerati. Very simplistic approach to tech. There will always be tradeoffs and the people that bitch about them.
- Jim Posner
Bill Joy said that I think
- Stephen Pickering
Nice show, everyone - and great conversations in the chat (sorry I couldn't join them - was triple-tasking!)
- Rob La Gesse
Thanks everyone.. great as always!
- Kevin Costain
Cliff is right on: The Merit of Working is incredibly efficient
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On Gillmor Gang in 5 minutes
- Kevin Marks
Get ready for today's GillmorGang - http://building43.com/realtime
- Cliff Gerrish
feedbacccck!!! ** echo***
- Susan Beebe
Ah, my day just got better. Gillmor Gang is just firing up now.
- Karoli
GillmorGang w/ Paul Buchheit, Danny Sullivan, Kevin Marks and Scoble - http://building43.com/realtime
- Cliff Gerrish
When is Verizon going to give up CDMA for LTE?
- Cliff Gerrish
Danny is missing the point that because it is open and can compete it will force the US carriers to start offering features to compete across the carrier vendors
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
just caught a great screenshot of Steve at his command center. :)
- Karoli
Microsoft smartphone maker is HTC - Ballmer had it at CES- not sure of the model either
- Susan Beebe
Steve's bank of monitors is cool although he needs liker picture in picture or something. LOL
- Jim Turner
I think it was a Ballmer 3.0
- Cliff Gerrish
LOL :D It should say, "Bing, Bing, Bing" every time it starts up
- Susan Beebe
HTC HD2
- Rob La Gesse
Funny. We're using Nexus One on AT&T and it's anything but a brick. In fact, I'm not sure I've even noticed that 3G isn't available. I previously had another Android phone from Rogers that supported 3G on AT&T, and they are virtually identical in performance.
- Ward Mundy
There is lots of analysis saying the google phone web site is the true game changer and not the phone. Anyone agree?
- Jim Posner
Jim, I agree to an extent. Unbundling the phone/carrier is the game changer. no question.
- Karoli
Jim, I think that is the sleeper hit for the first quarter. Instead of the arm-twisting that Apple had to do with AT&T to get the network behavour they needed, Google is now going to make it so that the US carriers *have* to change or be left behind as niche phone vendors
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
It felt like a stockholder meeting.
- Jim Turner
That's because 'phones' are dead. The devices need to be much more than that now.
- Cliff Gerrish
sigh...now i have to choose between this and the President's presser. Perhaps the President could wait a few minutes? :)
- Karoli
Karoli, that's what DVRs are for.
- Cliff Gerrish
LOL
- Susan Beebe
I like arrington's take on the providers needing to step up now.
- Jim Turner
Mike Arrington just joined the GillmorGang (live) - http://building43.com/realtime
- Cliff Gerrish
Zwpwpwpwpwpol';dkfa;ldfk awesome!!
- Susan Beebe
LOL!!!! Voice recognition, FTW
- Karoli
Robert they dont work any tme whether geeks in town or not.
- Jim Turner
Untrained voice recognition has a lot more to do with the speaker than the phone.
- Ward Mundy
On the GillmorGang Tank! =)
- Micah
how can we use Google Voice on our iPhones?????
- Susan Beebe
Ward, I agree. Using a headset/mic would help accuracy.
- Karoli
I think it also helps if you spell out loud everything you want to say.
- Cliff Gerrish
Just did a Nexus One Nav demo with voice recognition on YouTube. Had no problems. http://bit.ly/5NSwgd
- Ward Mundy
Cliff, I spent 5 minutes training my Mac for MacSpeech, it's about 98% accurate. Amazing technology
- Karoli
Karoli, did you train your Mac - or did it train you?
- Cliff Gerrish
Anyone catch the Ballmer keynote last night...as a xbox 360 owner I found the natel announce interesting but not much else.
- Jim Posner
On Nexus One, try: Navigate to Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas. In 15 seconds, you're on your way.
- Ward Mundy
Cliff, i don't feel like it trained me...
- Karoli
Karoli, then it was very successful.
- Cliff Gerrish
Ballmers focus seemed retrospective rather than forward looking. Has MS become irrelevant in terms of tech leadership?
- Jim Posner
watching president's presser on CNN on my iphone while watching GG on my laptop. If I mistake Arrington for Obama, just shoot me.
- Karoli
Cloud based phones suck when there's no access to the Net. Try connecting in Cambria, CA.
- Alex de Soto
If you don't have a Google phone, check out Vlingo. I've got it on my Blackberry and I can do voice input wherever there is text input. It's also server-based
- Ted Gilchrist
Uhh. All cellphones are cloud based.
- Ward Mundy
"Strategic fear" is accurate label for Apple - Arrington nailed it
- Susan Beebe
Apple's too proprietary / closed, could cause them to paint themselves into a corner fast
- Susan Beebe
Aren't web apps on the iPhone completely open?
- Cliff Gerrish
Google knows how to leverage and guide open source projects well... smart code & resource management
- Susan Beebe
Cliff the apps may be open, but the holy Apple App Store is NOT open; highly biased
- Susan Beebe
Apple is a consumer hardware company that invested heavily in the OS to help drive the consumer experience - that's a lot different than the Microsoft and Google focus. They all approach consumers from different starting perspectives.
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
As a first generation phone the Nexus One is as equally impressive as the first gen iPhone.
- Jim Posner
Danny's an Apple fanboi!!! :P
- Susan Beebe
Nobody's buying an iPhone because of an app-by-app comparison like that.
- Ken Sheppardson
Keep that pic - it's funny watching Arrington get all twitchy!! LOL :D
- Susan Beebe
that photo of scoble cracks me up.
- Karoli
People are buying iPhone's because it's the default choice at this point.
- Ken Sheppardson
The question now is "Why should I buy phone X instead of an iPhone?"
- Ken Sheppardson
I'm sick of the carrier coverage bashing. It's a local thing.
- Chaim Krause
In the UK the iPhone has banking apps. Property apps. Apps to measure my energy consumption in the home
- Jamie
its gone way beyond Twitter and Facebook
- Jamie
TMobile is an excellent data carrier but yes, if you live in the boonies you may have issues
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Instead of coverage talk about customer service, etc. Things that are not geo-specific.
- Chaim Krause
The days of coverage being local are long past. To be competitive, coverage needs to be there, coordinated across regions.
- Karoli
Exactly why it's good that a lot of the apps on the iPhone can be used without the cloud.
- Alex de Soto
M$ was very disappointing... yawn
- Susan Beebe
every time i've had to contact tmobile for plan changes or questions the folks have been friendly and able to answer/fix the problem. the phone folks are a lot better then the folks in the stores
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Robert is there 'cause everybody else is there. It's like being a Deadhead.
- Ken Sheppardson
Robert's at CES because, "There's a lot of parties!" LOL :D
- Susan Beebe
HP placing Bing as default search engine is a BAD move for HP... bye bye
- Susan Beebe
Bing has an iPhone app *yawn*. It is surprising to see Bing doesn't render on mobiles
- Susan Beebe
Paul was ranting a bunch this week on M$ - funny stuff
- Susan Beebe
m.bing.com renders fine on my phone
- Jamie
google docs rocks
- Tim Jones
Google docs is amazing... collaboration is simply fantastic. love it
- Susan Beebe
m.bing.com works on Droid, but bing.com doesn't suggest it; flickr.com is smarter
- Kevin Marks
Jeffrey Hayzlett uses Google docs too :) Jeff is a very smart cookie, transforming Kodak
- Susan Beebe
bing.com redirects me to m.bing.com on the iphone
- Jamie
facebook ads are amazingly effective and well targeted
- Susan Beebe
very interesting discussion; very insightful remarks especially in the discussion about Apple vs. Google
- Jeroen De Miranda
the interesting thing is that with Quattro Wireless, Apple can build in an ad network to their mobile stack to keep developers on the platform
- Jamie
and use it as an alternative means of monetisation.
- Jamie
targeting? apple ID info.
- Jamie
the mono folks have been trying to evangelize the .net/CLR tech and have been berated constantly by Microsoft
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Apple's mobile me is a total failure on Droid too
- Kevin Marks
Microsoft is throwing a lot of money at getting Silverlight to stick, but nothing has stuck yet. They have to pay off everyone to get Silverlight in. Once the money stops, Silverlight disappears.
- Matt M (inactive)
mobile me uses soo many safari-specific html items it reminds me of how some MS products are tied to IE
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Kevin - haha not surprised! ;o)
- Susan Beebe
I think in a year we'll have to look back at 2009 as the year Palm died its final death... sigh....
- Ken Sheppardson
Netflix watch instantly works great -- (silverlight)
- Cliff Gerrish
completely agree ken
- Jamie
Droid-Nexus One was the one-two punch that finally sent them to the mat.
- Ken Sheppardson
I think part of it was self inflicted
- Jamie
Interesting that the xbox and mobile teams have be joined at msft.
- Cliff Gerrish
todays web os announcements were completely underwhelming
- Jamie
Oh, ALL of it was self inflicted, Jamie... in some sense ;-)
- Ken Sheppardson
XBox is a strong piece of technology - the only thread M$ has left to hang onto
- Susan Beebe
Cliff, I think Netflix is the only big success story I've seen for Silverlight.
- Matt M (inactive)
Zune? No mention of Zune when discussing Windows mobile stuff?
- Ken Sheppardson
maybe Microsoft can buy Palm and bring their web skills to use
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Matt, how about the olympics?
- Cliff Gerrish
"But after the conclusion of the [olympic] games, NBC went back to using Flash. Another setback for Microsoft came when Major League Baseball Advanced Media, the group that streams baseball games over the Web, decided to drop Silverlight."
- Matt M (inactive)
bear: I think Palm's taken on too much ex-Apple persona to be a Microsoft target. :-)
- Ken Sheppardson
Apps are the KEY game changer in the mobile market. Of course decent signal & data are a must too!
- Susan Beebe
Why doesn't Twitter do a camera?
- Ken Sheppardson
Does the Nexus One have push technology?
- Karoli
Ken - ah, that's a shame
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Susan, I completely agree. Apps will drive phone decisions, etc.
- Karoli
Yeah, and I completely disagree. I think early adopters overestimate the extent to which app selection matters.
- Ken Sheppardson
Ease of use, carrier choice, coverage... all trump number of apps.
- Ken Sheppardson
Thanks guys :)
- Susan Beebe
Ken, carriers need to become seamless. I choose my carrier based on carrier, not based on handset.
- Karoli
Bye Steve, thanks for a great show.
- Karoli
Which do/did you chose first, Karoli: carrier or handset?
- Ken Sheppardson
it's always been handset choice for me - but then again I change phones in 2-3 year cycles so i'm never locked into a contract when I decide to move.
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
I think the typical smartphone decision process these days goes (1) Do I object to iPhone for some philosophical reason or do I so hate AT&T so as to not buy one? (2) if so, which carrier am I on now, (3) what's the best phone on that carrier.
- Ken Sheppardson
that was a 2009 era decision tree - I think the availability of android phones on all of the carriers will now change that for 2010. (or at least I hope it will)
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
with android, there are choices. alot of people like a keyboard
- Tim Jones
There'll be a point where mechancial keyboards are completely replaced with virtual keyboards. (the physical keyboard becomes an object of nostalgia)
- Cliff Gerrish
Brian Solis at Bub.blicio.us: Introducing the FriendFeed Team - http://bub.blicio.us/1111126...
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Brian, as always, takes great pictures, even with questionable subjects. The pictures are from tonight's open house.
- Louis Gray
from Bookmarklet
Great pic Louis and tell them I love them all, best product on the web right now
- Thomas Power
Great photo!
- Bret Taylor
Left to right, as if you didn't know already: Dan Hsiao, Casey Muller, Ana Yang, Jim Norris, Tudor Bosman, Bret Taylor, Paul Buchheit (with Camilla), Sanjeev Singh, Kevin Fox.
- Tudor Bosman
yes; awesome photo!
- Tudor Bosman
(Not pictured: Ben Golub, Gary Burd and Ross Miller)
- Louis Gray
Some of our Turkish friends are also there http://ff.im/3mt6T.. Thanks for the pictures
- Murat Buyurgan
Great Photo :)
- Nimaa
You didn't tell me there was a FriendFeed party this week or I would have come out :-)
- Jesse Stay
Tudor SMASH!
- dario
Jesse: I haven't been able to make a friendfeed party for a while. We need a calendar! Heheh.
- Robert Scoble
اینا هم حلقه دارن. رونوشت به مازیار و مهران اینا
- Aly
Rock on, Kevin!
- Josh Haley
Great PPs!!加油，Friendfeed！:)))
- K.D.
That's why I love today's web : you can talk with the people that build the next web, and see those who build your current web. Congrats guys!
- Zackatoustra
FriendFeed Team, I love you !!!! Thanks to you all, I'm very happy everyday!!!
- @Renchin@
So that was the TGIFF ("Thank Goodness It's FriendFeed") party? Perhaps slightly off-topic, but if Camiila hasn't been betrothed yet, have I got a grandson for her ;-))
- ianf ⌘
TGIFF was excellent. Great event and great people.Thanks for the invite and hospitality.
- AJ Kohn
Louis, thank you and thank you to the FriendFeed team for making a killer product and hosting a great open house!
- Brian Solis
I think I spotted Hutch (http://friendfeed.com/bhc3) in an uncaptioned photo wearing a white "San Francisco Classic" shirt: http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Yes, Daniel. That is Hutch.
- Louis Gray
Fun party, great food, great hospitality.
- Anne Bouey
Anne - great finally meeting you yesterday.
- Hutch Carpenter
great photo, good to see the whole team together!
- Jeroen De Miranda
oooh i am totally wishing i was there! Robert is right, we need a calendar! :)
- Susan Beebe
Hutch: Thanks. I enjoyed chatting with you, too.
- Anne Bouey
what's with the guitar? lol
- Stuart Evans
(bump) Ana and Casey are now married. Here's a pic of them on the left, between Ross and Jim. Congratulations to Ana and Casey! (per http://friendfeed.com/jessica...)
- Louis Gray
:))))))))) مال بعد از عیده. اواخر فروردین فک کنم
- Aly
Using the Posterous Bookmarklet - Posterous Help - http://jeroendemiranda.posterous.com/using-t...
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- Jeroen De Miranda
from Posterous
Check out the Friendfeed Favorites Twitter list I've added to Listorious http://listorious.com/fruchte... #friendfeed
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Sweet! It's nice to be able to see the lists on a 3rd party site now - I still don't have 'em.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
I think there is a full roll-out happening today, stay tuned. Lists have finally made Twitter useful again, a real game changer indeed.
- Mike Fruchter
Wasn't it Rob Diana who wondered if "discovery" was the holy grail in social media? Listorious looks very nice.
- Meryn Stol
Meryn, You are correct, those are Rob's words. I thought Indiana Jones discovered the Holy Grail ?
- Mike Fruchter
Awww Mike, thanks for including me on this Twitter list!
- Shevonne
Jorge, it looks like its pulling directly from the Twitter API. I'm not sure how real time it is though.
- Mike Fruchter
Jorge, I think you have to be "chosen" to be part of their developer beta - I asked and got turned down.
- Jesse Stay
As always, I appreciate being included. Many thanks.
- AJ Kohn
nice to appear on that list, thanks!
- Jeroen De Miranda
WordPress mobile Plugin / Theme "WPtouch" by BraveNewCode Inc. My blog http://susanbeebe.com on iPhone looks hawt! - http://www.bravenewcode.com/wptouch...
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"WPtouch automatically transforms your WordPress blog into a web-application experience when viewed from an iPhone, iPod touch or Android touch mobile device. It comes complete with all the standard WordPress blog features: search, login, categories, tags, archives, photos & more. WPtouch also offers many customization features through a beautifully designed WordPress admin panel."
- Susan Beebe
from Bookmarklet
been using this as well - love it
- andy brudtkuhl
I use it. I like it. Just wish there was an easier way to change the calendar icons and allow for thumbnails. Of course, that would immediately reduce the loading speed…
- Jason Theodor
oh, now that looks good app.
- Malinda Routhier
Wow, so wifi is faster than edge. ;-P Who would have thought it ;-). In all seriousness it depends on the carrier though.
- Richard A.
from fftogo
I've been searching for themes that work well with mobile for the last couple of hours. Thanks for solving my problem.
- Bret Rowe
Bret - cool, glad this helped! let me know if you find any other nice mobile blog themes
- Susan Beebe
from BuddyFeed
how does WPtouch compare to wp-mobile-edition? Does WPtouch support all major mobile devices?
- Jeroen De Miranda
Not sure... good questions! I use this on my blog http://susanbeebe.com and it looks fabulous on my iPhone :)
- Susan Beebe
for some reason, I still can't get this thing to work correctly...
- Tim Hoeck
I've used this for months--it's great.
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
I am following anyone who says whether or not they like http://twitter.com/scoblei... Why? Only geeks are up right now. :-)
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*outted*
- Micah
I like. Mixture of tech and humor.
- Laura Norvig
I like super geeky....More dev talk the betta
- Sunny (The Geek Lord)
I like your feesd but dont like the tiled background please change it
- Atif UNALDI
i don't like the tiled background....i think you need a new one
- Anthony Feint
Wots title background ?
- Sunny (The Geek Lord)
oh yes, sneaking a look over scoble's shoulder is interesting
- Michele Costabile
only geeks are up right now:? then Milan is a geek!
- Laura Norvig
Geeks are supposed to be asleep right now?
- Jesse Stay
Tell me about it @jesse I haven't slept from 48 hours now
- Sunny (The Geek Lord)
Rackspace brooch on twitter but not on ff : )
- mehmet
I never sleep.
- Faraz Mullick
I finally got my nightowl powers back...the sickness took them away for a bit! :(
- Carlton Hackett
After 48 hours coffee and tea has stopped working now...Any tips ?
- Sunny (The Geek Lord)
Just when I think I lost my sleepness nights, they find me again. But anyhoo...still up and at 'em. :P
- Jonathan Hardesty
Of course I'm up it's 10 am here. The favs list is great because one can look just when and if one wants and it reduces the number of RTs.
- Michael Slattery
Well most of the Uk is up right now thats alot to follow ;-)
- Yant
Time update its 1:55 PM in here
- Sunny (The Geek Lord)
When should I pencil in the next mass Twitter unfollowing for?
- Johnny
Guys, what are continuous max hours you haven't slept ?
- Sunny (The Geek Lord)
25 hours at work is my record
- Michele Costabile
WOW 25 hrs continues work...Great
- Sunny (The Geek Lord)
Mine is 48 hrs but online at home
- Sunny (The Geek Lord)
Michele: Please tell me you got overtime ?
- Sunny (The Geek Lord)
Hey at least FriendFeed doesn't limit my API use.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
YAY...welcome to FF Robert
- Sunny (The Geek Lord)
Feel Free to join in :D
- Sunny (The Geek Lord)
And India as well [ Time Update : 2:08 PM]
- Sunny (The Geek Lord)
France actually been up for a while
- marsupilamima
Marsupilamima: Bonjour...Thats the only bit of French I know.....
- Sunny (The Geek Lord)
Been up for a while : in a different timezone Robert : does that count ?
- Nicholas Paul Gordon
from iPhone
I am a Proud GEEK and wanna be friends with all the other geeks...
- Sunny (The Geek Lord)
Interesting favorites twits, but yes the background has to be changed! :-)
- Stefano Pietroiusti
from twhirl
Guys/Gals on this thread, As we all are geeks lets subscribe to each other...I don't mind :) what say ?
- Sunny (The Geek Lord)
I really like it, and plan on stealing the idea for a couple specialty Twitter accounts. I wish everyone used favorites. Social search is the future, for me anyway.
- Justin Luey
from FreshFeed
Justin: True, Social search is the future. Human data is precious
- Sunny (The Geek Lord)
Yeah I don't mind it, would just prefer it if done on FF rather than the bird site, but I understand the reasons though.
- travispuk
it's 5:18 AM, so quiet everyone, too much noise can't sleep. Do like the favorite thing though
- Kim Landwehr
what if I don't have an opinion because I don't follow? does that make me a non geek? edit: also. yes. tiled background bad!
- Nathalie
I love your twitter favorites & check those out regularly!
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Robert, I scan your favorites to look for interesting new blog and sites... I like this approach; much better than only using the retweet
- Jeroen De Miranda
Is your background the shot that Chase took of you in Seattle?
- Kevin (aka ThreadKilla)
Kevin: Kris Krug took the shot while on Chase Jarvis' photowalk. Chase' lighting guy is holding the light, though.
- Robert Scoble
Scoble: Some of us are on other timezones LOL
- RK
Don't like the background btw :P
- RK
Robert, has anyone thanked you for doing this? If not, thanks.
- Kevin (aka ThreadKilla)
It's a good way to choose people to follow
- Sherrie Belken
You favored one of my blog posts, cool!
- Marko Saric
thx for the follow. I don't tweet all that much - mostly hang out here. I do tweet more consistently for my work persona, @serviceresource
- Laura Norvig
Thanks,have a great wknd
- Johni Fisher
Scoble I liked it well enough that I subscribed to the RSS feed a few weeks ago. It's a best of Twitter list that I really enjoy.
- Keith - @tsudo
You have a pretty low bar set for being a favorite
- jason smathers
what else to do lol
- Ali
I am not a Geek reason? I am an old dude....but I like to follow Robert anyway....informative for me and entertaining....
- Bob DeMarco
some of the favorites are ok.
- rob friedman
Say "whether or not they like"
- Robert Higgins
Welcome Ryan!
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Congrats Robert... best wishes to all
- Rhys Amos
Congrats. Now the fun begins!!!
- Mike Shields
Awesome!
- dstamand
Congratulations!
- Stephan Planken
Congratulations! Welcome, Ryan!
- Lance M. Brown
Awesome
- RetiredTeacherD
Yay! Congratulations!
- Jesse Stay
YAYAYAYAYAY! Congrats to you and Maryam!@#!@#!
- drew olanoff
congrats Robert and Maryam, Welcome Ryan.
- rick
Welcome to the world.
- Dave Mora
Congratulations!!!
- Mike Doeff
!!!
- sean percival
Born 11:32.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Yay! Congratulations to you and your wife! Now off to buy RSS and iPhone
- Lise
Congrats!!!!!
- Mark Evans
Congratulations!
- Kenneth
I hope you're well rested, Robert ... ;-)
- Hieronymus Murphy
Congrats Robert!
- Charlie Anzman
Congratulations!
- Antoniu
Congratulations!
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
Congrats to you all
- JanLawrence
Congrats Robert and welcome RSS!
- Robb Brock
Congratulations! Happy Birthday Ryan! Lots of love to the whole family.
- Jodi Church
SUBSCRIBED!
- drew olanoff
Hello World!
- CannonGod
Congratulations!! Welcome to the world Ryan!! :)
- Laura Zickus
<rss> awesome! </rss>
- sean percival
welcome to the new world little one! all hail our pink squirming screaming overlord!
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
20.5 inches long. 7 lbs. 13 oz.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
nice alpha version. welcome RSS !
- Kaïs Miled
congrats!! welcome rss!
- Barbara R. S.
Congratulations :)
- امیرعباس
RSS is finally here! Congrats Robert & Maryam
- Dennis Jernberg
Congrats Robert... best wishes to all
- joupy
Congratulations!
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
Blessings, and the best Robert!
- Nakeva Corothers
Cute!
- Charlie Anzman
مبارک باشه Congratulations
- هامد
Congrats!!!
- Jim Williams
Grats!
- Denverken
مبارکه رفیق رابرت . خدا حفظش کنه
- جـوان ایرانی
If Dave Winer comes on here and claims to have invented RSS I will smack him.
- drew olanoff
Congratulations!
- joey
Congratulations and all the best.
- Bryce Roney
Welcome Ryan!!!
- Phil
Welcome Ryan :)
- giuseppe c. | markgreene
Awesome. Congratulations!
- John McCrea
Congratulations!
- anna sauce
Congratulations :) Welcome Ryan :)
- Mohamed Marwen Meddah
Congrats, Imagine where RSS and the web will be when he turns 30!
- James Watters
Congratulations to you both.
- Don McAllister
congrats Robert and Maryam :)))))
- Conformist
congrats to the family!!
- erik yuzwa
Welcome to RSS in Pubsubhub mode :)
- Ouriel Ohayon
Congrats to you all!! We had our second child, a boy, on Tuesday. Enjoy!!
- Alex Cordiner
from iPhone
Yay! Congrats to you, but mostly congrats to your wife for doing all of the hard work. ;-) xo
- Jennifer Leggio
Mazel Tov!
- Robb Vaules
Congrats Robert....wishing all the best to your family....
- Carlos
Congratulations! Wow! Seems like we were there just the other day! Looking forward to your late-night feeds and tweets and blog posts!
- Louis Gray
You rock! Congrats. Thanks for sharing. How's mum doing?
- Steve Lacey
from iPhone
Congrats Robert - It is a fine family....
- Simarprit Singh
"beautiful new baby" by Robert Scoble, photojournalist. I stepped away for coffee and bang! RSS
- Brian Hendrickson
nice!
- Josh Haley
from iPhone
Thank you so much for sharing
- Sherrie Belken
:) congrats
- Shandiz
Born on Talk like a Pirate Day, too! Yarrrr!
- Josh Haley
from iPhone
congrads ms & mr scoble, :)
- chaz2b
congrats!! ^_^
- Christine Lu
Steve: mum is sleeping but got to hold Ryan. Instant love!
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Welcome, Guest dear to our world / Now the world is on your own
- Conformist
that feels good
- Brian Hendrickson
Congratulations!
- Parth Awasthi
Congratulations. Hope Maryam iis doing well
- Rachel Clarke
Congratulations! Wish him all the best!
- philos
Welcome Baby Ryan!!! My baby Ryan (17 years!) and I are honored to welcome another superstar to our planet! Love, hugs, and lots of kisses to Baby Ryan, Mommy Maryam, Dad Robert and big brothers Milan & Patrick and of course Grandma!!! My guess on Ryan's arrival (predication) was only 23 hours off. I thought he would arrive on Friday, Sept. 18th at 11:45 pm. Love to all, Kelly & Ryan Kim
- Kelly S. Kim
Congrats, Robert and Maryam.
- Derrick
Congratulations Robert, and well done Maryam! You are truly blessed :)
- Nicola Quinn
So happy for you Robert and Maryam. Yeay...another FF baby!
- Mark Krynsky
Congratulations!
- Surachart Opun
What a moment, eh? I remember when my daughter came into this world, it was so exciting there were no words for it. Congrats on your wonderful baby boy!
- Michael J. Carrasquillo
Congratulations
- testbeta
Congratulations! Welcome to the world, Ryan. :-)
- Yvette Ferry
Congratulations Robert and Maryam! And welcome Ryan. If I was having a baby today, I'd begin a blog for him/her straight away as an online diary they could look back on when grown up.
- Technogran
he's so cute...
- Sinem Vural
Robert, Congratulations to you and Maryamie!
- Mike Fruchter
Wow, congrats to all of you!
- Paul Salzman
Congratulations to you both!
- Forrest W. Kobayashi
Great news guys! All the best!
- Chris Nixon
الهــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــی چقده ناز نازیه.اینو فارسی نوشتم مریم جان بخونن ....راستی به باباش که نرفته:)) خوشگلتره:)) پس به شما رفته
- joupy
congratulations!!
- Jeroen De Miranda
Congratulations to you and your wife Robert!
- Randy
Congrats Robert!
- Terry Jones
congratz and welcome RSS!
- Jon Winters
Congrats Maryam :-)
- Terry Jones
Felicitations and humble prayers for your new son.
- Victor Panlilio
congrats and best wishes!
- Mike Chelen
Congratulations Robert! Welcome Ryan!
- Jeff P. Henderson
Congrats!!
- Tan Kaiquan
congrats and best wishes to all. :)
- Naor Mark
I was a c-section six week preemie in an era when that was seriously life-threatening, they didn't know if I would make for the first week. It always gets me a see a c-section / preemie come howling into the world. Welcome, little guy!
- Bob Morris (polizeros)
from iPhone
Beautiful baby! Congratulations daddy man :)
- Gary
:) Congrats Robert... best wishes to your family! Get her name in twitter and ff!
- Business Blogger 【ツ】™
Congratulations to you and Maryam!
- Elwin Witzke
AmazinG!! congratulations :)
- Nakul
cutie pie baby
- Debby Bruck
Ryan, good to see you.
- Burçak Çubukçu
تولدش مبارک ^_^ Congratulations!
- Emad
Warm wishes and congratulations. Love that you posted him crying.
- Irene Koehler
Congratulation to all of you! All the best for baby ryan!!!
- Arne Krueger
woooow like :)
- کلـیـشه
Congrats M. & R.
- Giuseppe M.
Congrats Robert and Maryam, Welcome to geekdom Ryan!
- Andrew Wardlaw
Contrats!!! I'm so excited!!
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Congrats.That pic brings back memories of my own baby's birth only ten months ago. C-section baby boys rock!
- Georgiana Comsa
Mazel Tov to you and Maryam.
- Michael Markman
Congrats... a few more Scobles make the world a better place ;-)
- Aad 't Hart
Congrats... and Welcome Ryan. Good to have you among us.
- Sativa
Congratulations! I
- Michael Fidler
Wonderful news. Congrats.
- Keri
Congrats Robert, and the best to you, Maryam, and of course Ryan!
- Chris Charabaruk
Congratulations Congratulations !!
- Farzad
Congrats
- Sandeep Swaminathan
looking to to the same in 3 weeks
- ROBIN SMITH
Congrats on the blessed event! :D
- Joel Lovato
Congrats Robert and Maryam. Welcome Ryan !!!!!!!!!
- Nir Ben Yona
Congratulations, Robert!
- Mark Trapp
Congratulations to Robert and Maryam.
- George Hall (Australia)
Right ON! I am so happy for you. I have 4 kids of my own and they are my greatest joys. Take care and I hope all goes so smooth for him and mom.
- Robert Anderson
Daddy Scobleizer!!!!!!!!!! First things first....when will he be signed up for Twitter and FF?
- krystyl
Congrats!!!
- eric susch
welcome Ryan, it's a beautiful world
- Michele Costabile
Congrats!!
- Olivia Lovag
Congrats to the Scoble family from South Africa! Welcome to the world @RSS
- Shaun Trennery
Congrats, Robert! :-D
- Kol Tregaskes
Congratulations Robert, and welcome Ryan!
- ↂGiorgiँ Zarrelliↂ
Congratulations Robert and R.S.S.: "Hello World" Cheers!
- Louis Trapani
warmest congratulations
- Peter Holland
what a beautiful baby=)Congratulations=)
- Candan Celik
Such a miracle and a blessing - Congratulations to you and Maryam and "big" brothers!
- Marla Schulman
Congrats, Robert. Amazing pictures!
- Jordi Soler
Congratulations to all of your family! Enjoy!
- Ed Richardson
Congratulations ... enjoy!
- Hitesh Parashar
Congratulations!!!! He's beautiful! Welcome little one! I'm proud to share a birthday with you!
- Martha
Congratulations Robert and Maryam! Welcome to the world Ryan :-)
- Rasmus Lauridsen
happy birthday BABY
- ≤ M@RzI
Best congratulations!!!! :)
- CantorJF
Congrat Robert. It is wonderful what this new media could do to share your joy!
- Gianto Widianto
congrats!
- Pradhap Nirmal Natarajan
Congratulations!
- Steve Garfield
به به . قدم نو رسیده مبارک مریم جان . خیلی نازه :)
- RokhSaare
Congrats on the blessed event! Welcome to the world, Ryan
- Jazz Baker
Congratulations!
- Jim #TeamMonique
Congrats :)
- Maryam Ardakani
from FreshFeed
He was delivered by a Blue Man?
- paul mooney
Congrats Robert. It's allways a special moment. I still have my child birth in my memory!
- Rui
What a happy day! A healthy new Scoble and mom.
- Dave Winer
آخي ، بچته ؟؟؟ مبارك باشه تو روز به اين عزيزي به دنيا اومده ، بت نميخوره بچه انقدري داشته باشي شيطون
- Kwame Nkrumah
My goodness, congratulations!
- DGentry
Congrats!
- Ivo Mortani
Congratulations!! and best wishes
- Johni Fisher
congrats!
- Il fu mass
Congratulations! I hope everyone's ok?!
- Holger Eilhard
حاجي خانومت ايرانيه جدي ؟؟؟ پس خيلي مباركه ديگه
- Kwame Nkrumah
Congratulations, Scoble family!
- scherbi: bottom dweller
wonderfull
- Claudio - braciolanet
from BuddyFeed
Congratulations to you and your family Robert! A very handsome baby boy! Cant wait to see more pictures!
- TiffanyCarr
Congratulations, Robert.
- motownmutt
Congratulations!
- :: Kim Sherrell ::::
congrats :)
- £lham
مبارکه :)
- خیزران
Congrats!
- Roozbeh
Congrats to Robert and Maryam!
- Bec Rowe @d0tski
WooHoo! My best to the whole family. I hope Maryam is getting some rest after all that hard work!
- Robert Couture
Congrats to you and your fam, Robert :)
- LANjackal
Ryan was born when the Berlin Marathon was finishing. Perhaps he'll be a long-distance runner. Congrats.
- Carl Jacobsen
Congratulations to you and the wife, Robert! Job well done. I see he is gonna take after his Daddy! ;-0 ,hehe:-)
- Duliece
One more congrats won't hurt, right? Thanks for sharing the pics.
- Kevin Sablan
Congratulations :)
- A35G
Congrats - Exciting & now the fun begins :-)
- PXLated
Wishing you and yours the best on this wonderful day! Congratulations!
- DJ Stevie Steve
Starting today. Sleep will be nothing more than a fond memory. :) Congrats.
- Richard
Congrats!
- Herb Hernandez
from iPhone
Congrats!
- Yusuf Ozan Taşdemir
Congrats Robert!!
- Taehoon Kim
Congratulations!
- Thomas Hawk
Congratulations to all!
- malackey
fantastic !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- michele ficara
Awe!! Congrats =)
- Brodie Beta
Congratulazioni!! ^______^
- Andrea | amnesiak1978
congrats!!
- clarita
Welcome Ryan! Congratulations Robert and family!
- Tim Probst
from iPhone
Congratulations!!! God bless....
- Bob DeMarco
Congrats!
- Jason Williams
from iPhone
Congratulations Robert, Maryam and Milan! All the best to the four of you.
- Eiso Kant
Congratulations :-)
- Jalada
Congrats! Enjoy.
- Jim Peake
Congrats
- Bee
Congratulations!!
- Paolo Leonardi
Congratulations!
- John (bird whisperer)
Congratulations.
- Ashish
oooww wonderfulll :))
- Ucandepik
Well done, my son's name as well.
- Robert Kenney
Congratulations
- Caleb Scribner
Congrats
- Manuel Mas
Congrats! Best wishes to you, Ryan and all your family!
- Lenny Post
congrats ^_^
- Furkan Tunalı
Conga Rats!
- Michael R. Bernstein
Wonderful! Enjoy!
- Alan Morris
Hello!
- N.G. Gordon - RadarSync
Absolutely wonderful. Welcome to the world Ryan!
- Loren Heiny
from iPhone
Congrats :)
- Hasan Al Shehabi
Congratulations to both of you.
- Roberto Bonini
Congratulations to everyone! He looks healthy! I am sure you must all be very happy! ;)
- Altan Khendup
Congratulations! May your tribe ever increase in happiness, joy, and fulfilment.
- trey pennington
Congrats!
- Ben Parr
what would be ryan's reaction when he would read this post someday, so many folks who knew dad congratulating him!
- testbeta
Congratulations!
- Anne Bouey
hiya RSS!
- Laura Norvig
Yah!! Congratulations.
- Micah
Congratulations to the whole Scoble family!
- WoH: Professor MOTHRA
Congratulations to the whole family! Enjoy these most precious times.
- Marylene Delbourg-Delphis
best wishes to all
- Hamza Şamlıoğlu @TEAkolik
congrats Robert and Maryam
- Kevin Tunis
Congratulations, Robert!
- Sabri Küstür
from FreshFeed
Wonderful. Best wishes to Ryan...
- Mitchell Tsai
Congratulations to the whole family :)
- Chris Saad
Congratulations
- Samaneh
Congratulations. First picture on twitter!
- Cindy Makonin
I just came to make sure you were getting a proper congratulations
- Sherrie Belken
congrats;)
- Elham
Congratulations to the Scobles!
- Carlton Prest
congratulations, Robert and Maryam.
- Valeria Maltoni
congrats!
- Daniel Brusilovsky
WOW - what a miracle - congrats!
- Mark Harai
Congratulations Robert & Maryam!
- Rodrigo Jaroszewski
Congrats from Italy, Ryan!
- Federico Bolsoman
from iPhone
Congratulations Robert and sorry for delay, Best wishes
- erfan
He is crying: "I want an iPhone". Felicitations!
- William Mougayar
May he be blessed throughout his life! God bless you, Robert and Maryam!
- Melanie Reed
CONGRATS!!!!!!!!!
- Greg Ness
congrats :)
- erd
Congrats Robert & your family :)
- Sampad Swain
what a beautiful little guy! congratulations! rock on!
- B.L. Ochman
great day, congrats
- imran
Wow congratulations to both you and Maryam you must be so proud :)
- David Richardson
from Android
Wow, Congratulations, Robert and Maryam!! Ryan looks beautiful.:-)
- Cathryn Hrudicka
Congrats man. That's so awesome.
- DB, Just DB #TeamMonique
Happy Babbie Day!
- Jack&Cleo
Congrats! I wish a long and healthy life.
- Muammer Okumuş
Robert, you newest addition is too freaking adorable. I hope you and Maryam are doing well. Congratulations! Here's to a long, prosperous future!
- Mike Nayyar
congrats to you and Maryam! And welcome, RSS!
- Joshua Allen
from fftogo
congrats!!! Welcome to Ryan
- Dario Salvelli
Congratulations to you and Maryam! E benvenuto Ryan!
- Marco Fabbri
Congrats! :)
- Emmanuel Anumonwo
Congratulations!
- mlazopoulou
Such auspicious times... Welcome, Ryan!
- Red Label
O HAI, Ryan! Congratulations to Daddy and Mommy, too!
- Ordinarybug Heather
قدم نو رسیده مبارک!congratulations
- uɐſʃɐʌ uɐſ
Congrats Robert! Welcome Ryan!
- Garin Kilpatrick
Awesome, Congratulations Robert and Maryam! And welcome to the world Ryan.
- Mitch Baldwin
Happy parenting! Congrats!
- Natalie
Groovy + one geek on the planet
- Yann Ropars
Congrats!!! Robert
- Steve Chou
To the proud Papa.....Congratulations!!
- Bonnie Foster
Congratulations Team Scoble. Best of good wishes to all of you.
- Morrie Johnston
Congrats Robert and family!!! Welcome Ryan :)
- buvanesh
congrats Robert!
- Joshua Guffey
Congratulations! RS
- Sean Kelly
Congrats :D
- Emre Misvaklı
Congratulations. he's so cute :)
- Armando Grati
Beautiful!
- Ryan Sholin
Congratulations
- Kreg Steppe
Congratulations!
- Gordon Saunders
Congratulations!
- Hamid Reza
Congrats Robert....How amny more before you have your baseball team :-)
- Alex Marrow
Seriously, Best whishes.............God Bless......
- Alex Marrow
Mazal Tov!
- Raanan Avidor
All the best! Fun Times!!!!
- Jim Turner
congrads now the fun starts, beautiful baby
- Debra Moore
congrads !
- ★ Soner Gönül
Congrats and Best Wishes!
- Tracy Benham
Looks like the baby's first trip to the dentist
- Steve Borgman
Welcome, Ryan! Congrats, Robert!
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
zou dit een handige plugin zijn? Public Post Preview | Sivel.net - http://sivel.net/wordpre...
Enables you to give a link to anonymous users for public preview of a post before it is published. Have you ever been writing a post with the help of someone who does not have access to your blog and needed to give them the ability to preview it before publishing? This plugin takes care of that by generating a URL with an expiring nonce that can be given out for public preview
- Jeroen De Miranda
nee, hiermee kun je een in een mail een url naar de preview sturen naar iemand die geen login op WP heeft. Die kan dan al zien hoe de post er uit gaat zien. Er wordt een eenmalige en expirerende url gebruikt, dus de toegang tot de nog niet gepubliceerde post is beperkt. Zo kunnen redacteuren blogs plaatsen van mensen die de info per mail sturen; en toch aan de auteur laten zien hoe het er uit gaat zien...
- Jeroen De Miranda
inderdaad, kan nog wel eens handig worden!
- Jeroen De Miranda
from email
Gillmor Gang w/Bret Taylor, Scoble, Marks, Canter http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Steve, great interview; it also gives some more insight in the integration of FriendFeed into Facebook
- Jeroen De Miranda
Hopefully Tornado takes off!
- Garin Kilpatrick
just embedded transcript in TCIT post http://www.techcrunchit.com/2009...
- Steve Gillmor
Didn't this used to be on TwiT ?
- Kevin J Hatton
Great show and happy to see it up on YouTube so quickly for all of us who missed the live stream.
- Mike Hellers
Yes. Then Leo and Arringotn had a fall out live on air. Thats where Leo's famous "Screw You" line comes from. They made up, but that was the end of GG on TWIT.
- Roberto Bonini
Yes I remember it well. You mean Mr.Laporte really did kick you guys off?
- Kevin J Hatton
I still can't get used to seeing 'Bret Taylor - Facebook' lol great show. Where do I subscribe.?
- Kevin J Hatton
Kevin, you could favorite the channel or get word in any number of other ways. I got the channel gadget so it shows up on my iGoogle start page. http://friendfeed-media.com/eaa3f44...
- Amyloo
You can also subscribe to a youtube channel by RSS eg. http://gdata.youtube.com/feeds...
- Jack
What a spam attack looks like from within the new Disqus user interface. Spam Spam Spam.
k00pa, Courtney Engle, imabonehead and 8 other people liked this
It makes you see red.
- Jemm
Louis, that looks awful. That is also the main reason why I have choosen JS-Kit for my blogs; no spam seen up till now (they use Akismet; that might explain their great performence regarding spam). See http://www.ambtenaar20.nl for this JS-Kit integration. Have tried Disqus before, I hope they will improve the anti-spam functionality!
- Jeroen De Miranda
Ugh. And to think I've ditched JS-Kit for Disqus. lols
- jan geronimo
RT @richard_hales: RT @pixelatedimage: Overused Tilt-shift is the new over-used HDR. Now where did I put that un-suck filter...?
Jaap Willem, leuk dat je ook gebruik maakt van FriendFeed! Ben ik een echte fan van! Groeten, Jeroen
- Jeroen De Miranda
I don’t feel safe with Wordpress, hackers broke in and took things - http://scobleizer.com/2009...
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Well, if you have fixed the hole by upgrading; you should feel a lot safer now. I guess strong user adoption does bring the wrong kind of attention.
- Anindya Chatterjee
Anindya: we're watching. Looks like they haven't gotten back in since the upgrade and some of the other changes we made. Knock on wood.
- Robert Scoble
I'm very tempted to switch to a SixApart install. As a Perl programmer I'd be much more familiar with the backend.
- Jesse Stay
Robert, btw, I'm sure between all your users you can find a backup. I have a bunch via Google Reader I could get to Rackspace to import for you. I'm sure others have even older entries than I have. Let us know if you want help restoring the old scobleizer.com!
- Jesse Stay
robert - i can tell you this - you need to watch it like a hawk - when i thought i was safe - i wasn't - InsideTransit continues to get hit - and I still believe there is some patches and stuff that RS can do as well - the bigger issue is what's on the server - because that's where they put the shells and then they can do whatever they want.
- Allen Stern
Not cool, hopefully things will work out.
- Kim Landwehr
Jesse: luckily it was July and August, when I wasn't doing much blogging. No biggie. Thanks. Allen: yes, Rackspace Cloud has a security team now and they are actively looking at ways to make Wordpress safer for our customers. It really sucks getting hacked. Let me know if you find any other ways to protect the systems.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: Yea getting hacked sucks. My early days with my blog aboutonlinematters.com I got hacked and luckily my ISP had a backup. Since then I have treated my Wordpress blog like any dev site - with a subversion repository and complete backup. But there are days... like today... when I think strongly about a platform like typepad.
- Arthur Coleman
what i have found is locking down the files helps - but you need to ftp into your site and make sure that nothing has been edited or added - in my case, on all my sites, the hackers put files all over that were base64 files - and what they do is include them into WP or they just run them direct - nearly a full shell. i've asked RS to create a way so that i can be notified of any changes to files - they say it's too heavy to run.
- Allen Stern
Robert, I just miss the traffic from your "You are SO Unfollowed!" article. (one of the casualties) ;-)
- Jesse Stay
There's a lot of great info they deleted - I'm a little ticked they would be completely insensitive like that to prove a security flaw. It affected much more than just you.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: yeah, that's probably the one blog that I miss. It's also the one that got me to notice they deleted a couple of months.
- Robert Scoble
Jesse: that still is cached over on Google at http://74.125.155.132/search...
- Robert Scoble
No way "You are SO unfollowed" is out? I loved that one! :-( thanks for the cache Robert
- Sofia @ SoMaFusion
If you have no time to take care of yuors blog, maybe it's better if you choose the pro offer from wordpress.com ( I think scobleizer.com can have the minimum requirement to stay there).
- wolly
here it the VIP hosting http://en.wordpress.com/vip-hos...
- wolly
wolly: it's not just about time, attacks come from all directions so you've gotta have a holistic approach to security. How many of you regularly change passwords and make sure they are really good ones? (Twitter got broken into not because of hacks, but because they didn't practice good password security).
- Robert Scoble
It saddens me: it is morally reprehensible your hosting company convinced you to switch with the seduction of plugins and customization without emphasizing or handling the increased responsibility of upgrades. Your blog was not unique and not a special target, the worms sweep across millions of blogs indiscriminately and hit whatever is vulnerable. If your host is lax in upgrading, the...
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- Matt Mullenweg
that's true :-) I use password very strange and very verylong that I cannot remember and I use a service like clipperz.com to login.
- wolly
wolly, Robert was hosted on WordPress.com for about 4 years -- he was actually the very first VIP. Although there were dozens of security updates to WordPress in that time, his blog never had a problem because it was always up-to-date. He only switched away a few months ago.
- Matt Mullenweg
Ciao Matt :-) I didn't know that, so scoble come back to the light side :)
- wolly
Matt: yup, that's true. I've learned my lesson. Running your own servers are a lot harder than just having them hosted on Wordpress.com.
- Robert Scoble
To be frank, it completely breaks whatever trust I had in Rackspace.
- Matt Mullenweg
But Matt, I've been talking with many blog owners, including at TechCrunch, and they say that Wordpress' updates break their custom plugins. That's why they don't upgrade immediately. So, sounds like Wordpress has a mess on its hands that the hosted version of Wordpress didn't have (I couldn't run a lot of plugins and video embeds and other fun things on the hosted version of Wordpress). So, to blame it on my hoster/employer (Rackspace) exclusively isn't really a good attitude either.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, It happens. We were hacked too. My observations lead me to believe that this summer was the worst in a long time. Its a war and its going to be a war until the attitude towards hackers changes. Let's stop being fascinated in the least bit by how they do it (this goes towards Kevin Mitnick and his supporters- I don't ever want to pay good money to read about your scams on the...
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- Melanie Reed
Matt's got a point that with greater power (self-hosting) comes greater responsibility (more need to keep an eye on security), but I think to say that Scoble's blog was not a special target is a bit disingenuous. High-profile sites are always a higher-value target.
- Rachel Luxemburg
Matt: I think you need to really look at all the damage that's being done to a wide range of sites, many of which are NOT hosted at Rackspace, before throwing more barbs. That's bull. Sorry. But I added a link to this conversation to my blog so people could see your point of view.
- Robert Scoble
If a plugin is preventing you from upgrading (did it?) then let's figure out how to fix that plugin. All I can do in WordPress is build in the notices (your blog was asking you to upgrade for months) and the one-click updates for both core and plugins. I agree it's not your (Robert Scoble's) fault because I don't think you made the conscious decision to take on the increased responsibility.
- Matt Mullenweg
Matt: the reputation around the Net is that upgrades on Wordpress break things. This wasn't a Rackspace recommendation. It's also a problem with all upgrades. I've gotten hosed by upgrades elsewhere. Look at all the people upgrading to Snow Leopard who are having things break.
- Robert Scoble
Matt: TechCrunch hasn't upgraded its blog either and it wasn't hosted on Rackspace (at least not until a couple of days ago).
- Robert Scoble
I'm not saying there isn't lots of misinformation around the net, I'm saying "how can I help your blog, please." If it's a plugin preventing you from upgrading, let me know the plugin and we'll fix it even if we didn't write it. That's the beauty of open source.
- Matt Mullenweg
Robert -- Avoiding upgrades because they're annoying to deal with isn't a viable longterm strategy.
- Rachel Luxemburg
they need to take care of Scoble's blog, well for he is a VIP and the smashing they would have would do a lot of damage to your customer base and otherwise, would they reply to an ordinary guy say like me? i think not,well wordpress/automattic is having their tough moments, hope things get well and they get their repute back
- testbeta
Matt - you blaming Rackspace for security vulnerabilities in YOUR software platform is kinda like blaming Dell when a Windows box gets hacked. I think you are being irrational.
- Rob La Gesse
Matt: in my case it was the REPUTATION of Wordpress's upgrades that was keeping me from upgrading. I was waiting to see what other people reported broke. I didn't realize the severity of the security problems. But, I am now upgrading automatically. So I'm fixed. But you still have a reputation problem. Lots of people are reporting things break when they upgrade.
- Robert Scoble
Rob, I'm not blaming them. I'm saying it's the responsibility of any host, of any software, to stay up to date. If there was a SSH vulnerability on Robert's box I would say the same thing. Software updates are inevitable, there is no such thing as bug-free code, so staying up to date is a must.
- Matt Mullenweg
Isn't all this open source code? If it's broken, why not fix it? Doesn't everyone have the responsibility to do that? It's not any one source's fault in that case.
- Jesse Stay
Matt - I agree with you. So make Wordpress upgrades SAFE, automatic AND do some internal validation of plugin code to let users know they may be running something that is potentially insecure.
- Rob La Gesse
Matt, agreed. Not when its turned out as fast as people are yelling for it. People can't have it both ways.
- Melanie Reed
Matt: all Rackspace was providing to me was a Linux host. I was responsible for getting my upgades done on anything I ran on that system. But now we have a team making sure we're following best practices. That is NOT Rackspace's problem, though. That's like blaming Microsoft for a bug in Adobe software.
- Robert Scoble
I never listen to the reputation, I always upgrade as a security upgrade is out, and if a plugin doesn't work or I deactivate it or I fix it. Security is much more important than a plugin and Matt knows how many plugins has my blog (when he looked my backend he was very sad ad he said that it was the first time for him to see so many plugin in a blog :-) ) To have a self host blog it's difficult and time expensive.
- wolly
There are several very useful plugins specifically addressing security issues; and monitoring WP for suspicious activities (both on file and database level). Here are some articles with tips to harden your blog http://bit.ly/sZgh6 (delicious bookmarks). I only install plugins from authors from whom I know that they implement top level php; no breaking of upgrades on my 3 WP blogs has taken place (2.7-2.8-2.8.4)
- Jeroen De Miranda
Yeah, plugin issues are the responsibility of the plugin developer, not Wordpress's. I don't see how this is Wordpress's or Rackspace's fault.
- Jesse Stay
By the way, Matt, Sheamus, over on my comments on my blog, says he has the latest upgrades in place and he's still being broken into. You might help him figure out how the hackers are breaking in still.
- Robert Scoble
Sorry, I was under the impression Rackspace had recommended you move away from WordPress.com and taken responsibility for the system. I was worried about your blog -- I emailed you about this in August but never heard back. It breaks my heart when someone's WordPress gets compromised.
- Matt Mullenweg
I understand the feeling though - if people are still being broken into after being told a fix was made, especially if you're not a developer, that can be a little scary. I'd look to other solutions in that case if it were me, and it's no one's fault. It's just perception and fear, very valid fear.
- Jesse Stay
I do believe there is a false sense of securty that WORDPRESS fosters by hosting plugins. I think many assume that because they download the pluging VIA Wordpress, and FROM Wordpress, it is somehow vetted.
- Rob La Gesse
Matt: no. I wanted to move to my own install of Wordpress so that I could run many more plugins and start doing stuff other professional bloggers were doing. I am learning very quickly just how much work goes on behind the scenes to make sure my words were protected.
- Robert Scoble
Once you've been hacked once if you don't clean up every trace (preferably a systems person does this) it's very likely something is left that allows the spammers to easily break back in, regardless of what version you're on. That's why the trouble with upgrading is worth it, it's much, much less than the trouble of fixing a hacked blog.
- Matt Mullenweg
Jesse: yeah, at Microsoft when a box got broken into they wouldn't let you use it anymore. They forced you to reinstall it with all patches loaded. They assumed that it was compromised and that someone stuck a back door in somewhere. That's a lot of work too.
- Robert Scoble
install either wp-backup or wp-dbmanager and configure database backup: every day; download to your local pc (or to a system other than your hosting provider); run a check once a month to see whether you can reconstruct the blog in case of calamity, That is my procedure; works fine.
- Jeroen De Miranda
if a commoner gets hacked, then he should move to wordpress.com services or what?
- testbeta
they should just make it not have any security holes!
- Mark
Robert, if you like I'd be happy to host your blog for you (and I'm on Rackspace servers). I can keep it secure as well. I'd only ask some mention of SocialToo somewhere (or payment of some form in order to cover the cost of bandwidth).
- Jesse Stay
I would also be able to keep it backed up for you.
- Jesse Stay
I'll also install any plugins you're interested in trying
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: in my case, I now have a team of the top security guys at Rackspace working on it and making sure my system is up to date and backed up. They also are learning a lot about this and other people who have had problems and are building a list of best practices.
- Robert Scoble
This is eventually why I didn't go with Mosso. The service looks good, but you still have to manage your app yourself which opens you up to problems like you've experienced. It would be cool if they offered another layer of management on top so apps could be completely hands free.
- Todd Hoff
the alternative (i.e. strong vetting of all plugins) would turn the whole WordPress ecosphere into something such as Ning.... only some 300 addons (as far as I know); little flexibility very intransparent how to get your addin accepted .... Not an attractive model for me....
- Jeroen De Miranda
Robert, excellent - just wanted to make sure the offer was out there. Maybe that could be a tiered service for Rackspace, although I'm not sure it's something Rackspace wants to get into. Bluehost barely makes any money off of that type of service.
- Jesse Stay
Steve: I think that's a reasonable set of assumptions. The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence. When I was on Wordpress.com I was always jealous of blogs that were able to run the latest plugins and use the latest embed codes from various sites.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, it's even more fun when you can customize the plugins and themes as a developer. :-)
- Jesse Stay
@testbeta wrdpress.com is a very good choice if you don't have time or you don't know how to manage security on yors self hosted blog
- wolly
wolly: that takes out the open source fun part ;) well i have nothing much to do on my blogs so i keep mine updated ;)
- testbeta
I agree with you :-) but many people love blogging non update theirs blogs :-)
- wolly
when my sites were hacked - a wordpress employee reached out to me- i dont remember her name but we sent a few emails - i could write for days about what happened to my 5 sites - my take is simple - i think the issues are a combo of rackspace (my host) and wordpress (my software) - i can tell you this - in 3+ yrs on drupal, i was NEVER hacked. and Matt is right - the real issue is that...
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- Allen Stern
Allen - what version of WP are you running today?
- Rob La Gesse
2.8.4 on all of them
- Allen Stern
Allen - good :)
- Rob La Gesse
If there's a shell script on the same server as you, even if it's not your account, everything on that server is at risk regardless of the software or its version.
- Matt Mullenweg
Matt - that is NOT true
- Rob La Gesse
I would switch to a new server if I were infected at this point.
- Jesse Stay
Properly configured, user space can be isolated and these scripts cannot cross-pollinate.
- Rob La Gesse
It can be -- but publish a shell login on your server and we'll see. ;) The right answer is to scrub that sort of access.
- Matt Mullenweg
Matt - that comment on the "shell script" is silly. What are you actually trying to say?
- Robert J Taylor
Some sort of backdoor that allows a remote user to execute code -- it's super common.
- Matt Mullenweg
rob/matt - that wsa one of the biggest issues with my RS account - i had all the sites together in one "client" so when they hacked one - they were able to move around with their shell script into all my other sites - now each site is in a sep. "client" so the damage can only hurt me on one site - and believe me it does hurt :( i believe insidetransit and centernetworks are hit in google
- Allen Stern
@Scobleizer I'm sticking with @wordpress it doesn't worry me that much, plus I always update and have backups of db and site emailed to me
- Justin Yost
Allen - that was within one user space though. So what I stated above still stands true.
- Rob La Gesse
Allen and Robert are big enough that if they had a problem they could contact us and we'd help them, though as far as I know neither did, but I worry a lot more about smaller folks who get hit in the same way. The knowledge for how to properly clean up after a hack is more systems than software and not widespread.
- Matt Mullenweg
As Allen mentioned above, he did have a conversation with Wordpress.
- Rob La Gesse
matt - thanks for putting me in the same category as robert! *blush* - i did reach out to you - and your security guy was helping me big time - it seemed to turn out that the WP Contact Form 7 was the thing that caused it to start - i didn't document it all online because the security guy wanted time to get the plugin developer to fix the upload hole. - btw his name was mark jaquith and he was great
- Allen Stern
So why not some scheme where Wordpress vets a plugin and "blesses it" - perhaps a small charge for this service? As long as Wordpress is advertising plugins on the dashboard I think there ample reason to hold Wordpress to some level of accountability for those plugins
- Rob La Gesse
rob - that's what i told mark - they should offer that service for a tiny fee - stamp a "certified" stamp on it.
- Allen Stern
Just updated all my sites, doesnt look I was hit.
- sean percival
sean - no one would hit you - they know you would lala all over them
- Allen Stern
sean - happy for you!
- Rob La Gesse
I've read almost all of the comments here, not hearing these mentioned once: Robert did not backup, kept the default 'admin' username and failed to update. These are three of the most basic security measures out there. Not blaming it on Robert, because we all fail on this sometimes, but these basics really are important!
- Abounding Media
http://twitter.com/markjaq... warning of Mark in April - kept me away from WP contact form 7
- Jeroen De Miranda
Abounding: yup. And the lesson here is don't host your own version of Wordpress unless you have a security team making sure you're doing it right and backing up (something I never did on Wordpress.com, by the way). Oh, and Twitter taught us that even if you do all of that you've gotta make sure you pick great passwords and think through ways that social hacks could be done to get into your accounts.
- Robert Scoble
I've written a much longer post on this: http://wordpress.org/develop...
- Matt Mullenweg
http://markjaquith.wordpress.com/2008... some great tips of Mark Jaquith on writing secure plugins - I use these and other tips when scanning the PHP code of new plugins that I intend to use (before deploying them)
- Jeroen De Miranda
Jeroen, thanks for posting that. I've had phishers getting into one of my WP installs recently, but couldn't tell which plugin it was. I deactivated two plugins, including CF7, the other day, and haven't had any more problems. And a shoutout to Ryan Boren on the WP dev team for helping me to de-infect.
- John Craft
Robert: Welcome to the world of web development for impatient users and disgruntled hackers
- Melanie Reed
http://wordpress.org/develop... great post of Matt Mullenweg about WordPress security!
- Jeroen De Miranda
john - the CF7 is what killed me a few months ago - it's because the form allows uploads even if you don't actually have them on - i believe they patched it but i have not gone back there.
- Allen Stern
anybody know if a little smily face appearing in the lower right hand corner of ones footer is a sign of a compromise on a self hosted wp blog?
- Richard Reeve
John, your are welcome! SQL injects attacks specifically exploit data entry fields used by the plugin; one should at least scan the PHP code of these plugins, and look at what kind of escape functions are used around handling of the data entry.
- Jeroen De Miranda
"it's because the form allows uploads even if you don't actually have them on" - wow. That's bad.
- John Craft
Richard is wp-stats smily :-)
- wolly
"anybody know if a little smily face appearing in the lower right hand corner of ones footer is a sign of a compromise on a self hosted wp blog?" - if you didn't put it there, it probably is. In your admin go to appearance, theme editor, and read the footer.php file.
- John Craft
Richard - are you using the WordPress.com Stats plugin?
- Andre Natta
some plugins worth considering to install are: wp-exploit-scanner, wordpress file monitor, WP security scan, anti virus
- Jeroen De Miranda
I don't understand why people are worried about a plugin breaking when it comes to upgrading WordPress. If a plugin does break, disable it for the time being. I rather have a secure installation of WordPress running and would worry about fixing the plugin afterwards.
- Jason Hansen
Hmmmm . . . I run WP Stats, but see no smiley face.
- John Craft
ah...thanks folks...stats it is. phew...so I'm not paranoid...
- Richard Reeve
The problem with WordPress is that it forces you to upgrade. Imagine if Microsoft forced everybody to upgrade to Vista/Windows 7 in order to get their security holes plugged. WordPress should release security patches for the current and at least for the previous version.
- Nikolay Kolev
They dont force you to upgrade. If you dont want to patch, you can leave it at the current version ( but with a risk )
- Kashif Khan
Where's the patch for the 2.7 version then?
- Nikolay Kolev
Their versioning strategy bumps up numbers even for patches . And how many versions behind should they support ?
- Kashif Khan
Many of the WordPress security issues are not coming from the WordPress itself, but from the poorly written WordPress plugins. I think it would be nice if Automattic starts an "Automattic Certified" program giving blog owners the peace of mind they need. Every hacker can upload a plugin at WordPress.org, advertise it as something great, bloggers install it, see that it's nothing as advertised, uninstall it, but the WordPress instances are already hacked.
- Nikolay Kolev
Plugins are open source and free and nobody (well, with some exceptions) would pay to get their free plugin certified. The only way to do this is by having a community review process, based on some credibility score and voter authority system where 1,000 fake hacker accounts won't, for example, outweigh Matt's or Mark's votes.
- Nikolay Kolev
part of the problem is the cry wolf syndrome - if i updated every day wordpress had a security problem i'd want to be salaried on the payroll :D Wordpress needs some sort of alert notification - twitter or something that indicates if there's an update AND the severity and if its severe enough sends it to my phone.
- mal
let me play the other side of the coin - i've been using vbulletin for my forums for probably more than 5 years - and it's never once been hacked - why is this - is it because it's paid? is it just more secure? would love to get some input on why wordpress seems to be the attacker's gold.
- Allen Stern
@allenstern because it pays back better to have wp hacked
- A. T.
Another devil - I have clients using Expression Engine for years (with plugins) and haven't had a problem either. Checking security sites, EE has had very few vs the many with WP and some with Drupal. Matts suggestion that one hosts with him to avoid problems and keep updated just isn't in the cards for business sites. Just too many vulnerabilities with WP over the years for me to recommend it.
- PXLated
i can tell you that within 2 days of moving from drupal to wp, my sites were hacked - all of them - and it made me seriously question the move - the reasons i moved were because wp is a bit easier to edit/code than drupal and because the admin panel in wordpress is awesome compared to the crap panel in drupal - i wrote up a whole post about why i moved - i'd like to see matt write a post about their qa and security procedures for their releases
- Allen Stern
Alen, once Drupal 7 get released, you may actually go back. :)
- Nikolay Kolev
Robert - If I were you I'd move away from Wordpress and fast. Its security record is dire and has been for ages. Other solutions are a lot more stable, whereas Wordpress seems to have security bugs every second week. Why anyone puts up with it is really beyond me. I moved to MovableType and haven't had to worry about caching issues or security problems
- Michele Neylon
#somethingpersonal WP calls you "technical evengelist", Robert. When you say «Yes, I didn’t have a backup. I should learn to do backups» I call you a mediawhore. Nothing TECH-NI-CAL, just bulled ego. Learn Security, Performance, Reliability, you ignorant piece.
- м.д.ж. 20%
Robert - "the reputation around the Net is that upgrades on Wordpress break things" I'm sorry but that's just not true, I use many many plugins across about 20 sites and I've only ever ONCE had a plugin break during a WP upgrade.
- John O'Nolan
Definitely check if Google Reader has your lost posts - as of a few months ago, it didn't handle deletes very well :)
- Michael Herf
This recent wave of WordPress incidents shows the negative side of using open source software. Matt says that there are many people looking into WordPress' source code, but the problem is that probably half of those people have malicious reasons for doing so.
- Nikolay Kolev
@Matt - why not have a module that adds *automatic* upgrades? The one-click update feature is very nice, but zero clicks is better. With a decent snapshot/rollback system you could update most people securely right away--email them and let them rollback if something breaks.
- Michael Herf
@robert: we might be able to help you recover the lost blog posts if you want. Google Reader has an archive of them and we helped another blogger in the past recover her losses. Let me know if we can help.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
@matt when do you start to care about poor people unlike robert... who can't afford *VIP* i am willing to pay $25+ per month of course with my adsense ads :}
- Imran Jafri
@robert by the way you made one of the worst choice to move away from wordpress.com i think it wasn't price issue rather you wanted to be brand *ambassador* for rackspace which was only possible if you host your blog on their damn servers... if i get enough visitors i would switch to wordpress.com vip without taking 2nd breathe........
- Imran Jafri
I run just a few plugins, and research and vet them first. And upgrade to new WP versions within a week. Look, attacks happen, running self-hosted can get complicated. But this is true with any software or OS
- Bob Morris (polizeros)
from iPhone
Nikolay, it's always better to have more people looking at the code, because a bug that's been found is better than a bug that hasn't. WordPress used to get almost no security problems and people thought it was because it was coded differently, when in fact it was coded far worse than it is today it just didn't have enough users to make it worthwhile to target. Also where many...
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- Matt Mullenweg
Nikolay: I would also push back against your assumption that using Open Source software equals less security. Microsoft Windows and OS X are both closed source and both have security holes - there is a competition each year to help MS and Apple find them and fix them. Both Apple and Microsoft came away with security holes to fix this year. So just because it's open source doesn't...
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- Tim
that's what you get for the fun of installing and hosting your own installation, instead of using "the cloud".
- Ihar Mahaniok
Robert - I recommend WP S3 Backups for backing up your database to off-site storage. Amazon S3 is a great place to host backups of your Wordpress database and is relatively inexpensive. You *always* want backups *off* the server so in case the server is compromised, the backups are still clean. This plugin works like a charm, is automatic and could have saved you. Cheers!
- Scott Jarkoff
anybody know of a test that can be done to see if a wp blog has been compromised? Has a few strange user subscriptions about a week ago...but not noticing any thing else...I did upgrade weeks ago, but soon enough?
- Richard Reeve
bug exploits keep security IT folks in their day job, sad but true.
- Jim Posner
In IT it keeps me busy but the reality is if you update your software on a regular basis you can minimize these from affecting you.
- Rob Cairns
Robert, any chance archive.org has some of your old blog posts? Google Cache?
- drew olanoff
Matt, another thing to note is that Wordpress.com is often blocked in China (even if you have your own custom URL like scobleizer.com). There are advantages to NOT being hosted by Wordpress.com although your point about increased responsibilty for keeping up with security patches is still valid.
- Elliott Ng
Drew: yeah, but what do I do? Just republish them?
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Sure why not. Scoble's best of. Reason why I hate stuff on the net sometimes is good stuff gets lost.
- drew olanoff
Give a try to the "WordPress Database Backup" plugin for WordPress and you'll receive regular backups on your email
- Francois Lamotte
Robert, You can get all of your lost blog post html out of Google Reader. I'm not exactly sure how to link Disqus back, maybe it's as simple as re-adding the old posts with the same title/date i.e. Url (I don't use it). Yet another reason to use FULL RSS feeds (instead of summary). See RSS isn't dead.. it's now a backup tool too! (http://ff.im/7JrlC)
- Chris Myles
Wordpress is a great blogging tool. It is however the largest target now - much like how Windows gets a crap-top more virii because it's the most used system. Someone used Drupal as am example of security... well I'm sure if Drupal was anywhere near the scale of usage Wordpress is you'd see hacks for that too.
- Gregory Wild-Smith
Robert: Just repost them with the dates set to the original dates they were posted. Simple, and no-one will ever know ;)
- Gregory Wild-Smith
I have always had a bad feeling about Wordpress. YMMV.
- Gordon Joly
from twhirl
Robert It could be a Rackspace problem and Not a Wordpress Problem. They might to increase there security on the Rackspace!!! You should checck into that!!
- Paul
One of the reasons I waited 2 years to switch from MovableType to WordPress was due to the security issues. I felt that the track record improved over the past year and moved 11 sites over. I can say this I employ a very extensive back up scheme but still worry about it. The ability to upgrade with a single click of a button has made it much easier to upgrade, but I always worry which plugins are going to break as I use a lot of plugins.
- Todd Cochrane
hmm... I think that a lot of this conversation is missing something. Most software security updates are usually tested in hosts and thus delayed in their own releases by at the minimum of a week's time usually. This is due to hosting internal testing of patches before rolling it out to all servers. Now, whether or not RS actually performs these types of procedures, I don't know... but I...
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- Ben Hwang
First: I keep my blog up to date. Always. Fuck plugins, I decided that when I made the decision to use WP for my blog that updates would be a priority, only because of all the security issues that I remember from the early early days. Having said that, I have to agree with Robert that the perception with WordPress, despite all the work with auto-updates and in-blog notification is STILL...
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- Christina Warren
from iPod
I am spending the day finally making a back-up of my web space, then the upgrade.
- Sebastian Keil
you are right to not feel safe: when you are on the dominant platform, holes get taken advantage of really fast. At least it being open source you know it will also get plugged fast
- Iphigenie
"what do I do? Just republish them?" - Robert, you can set the published date to the original July or August date in the "new post" form. Where it says "publish immediately," click "edit".
- John Craft
I couldn't disagree more that the reputation is that an upgrade will break a plugin. How many plugins reach into the Wordpress core and screw around with it? Less than 5%? Any examples of plugins that broke w/ 2.8.4?
- beersage
Somebody hacked into my WordPress blog earlier this year as well. It was a bummer because I was working on a draft copy of a blog post that was very rough and had not been edited and they published it. I was on vacation shooting in Chicago and didn't figure it out until several hours after they'd already published it. Fortunately they didn't seem to do anything malicious other than...
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- Thomas Hawk
@Robert: "[Rackspace] are learning a lot about this and other people who have had problems and are building a list of best practices." Is it possible this list is something RS might share?
- John House
@Matt Mullenweg: I do like WordPress (even though we had a public argument with you and another Automattic employee on TechCrunch a while ago) and I am a passionate supporter of open source software - don't get me wrong. But sometimes open source code makes it a bit easier for hackers! For example, one hacker hears about an exploit and without communicating with others, finds the hole independently by just looking into the source code and starts exploiting it on his own.
- Nikolay Kolev
Gregory Wild-Smith Bingo!
- Melanie Reed
Social Media Club blogs got hit as well as several of our personal blogs (still sorting it all out). We try to keep up on most upgrades, but every time we do, simple plugins (like the Event calendar) break. Seems silly, but we have hours of work after each upgrade to try and keep everything intact, and sometimes, we end up downgrading until the 'essential' plugins catch up, which...
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- Kristie Wells
I have 2 wordpress blogs. One on my own domain and one at wordpress central. Still can't get my head around their upgrade gymnastics - may just stick with eBlogger after all.
- Houseofmax
i don't know what will happen in times to come but from the existing platforms, i love wordpress and i am not going anywhere, but that doesn't matter for wordpress right? ;)
- testbeta
Robert, at the end of it is just only your bloody laziness in upgrading that led you here :) Jokes aside, please at least be honest and say you didn't upgradede twice... :p.
- Matteo Flora
Nope. I upgraded to 2.8.4 as soon as it was out but the hackers had already broken in.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
The fact that WordPress is currently being exploited doesn't mean that other platforms are immune. For example, the recently discovered XSS issue with Ruby on Rails makes not only blogs, but every unpatched site a target. So, the only issue I'm having is forcing us to upgrade to a new major version without much time to do proper testing (I'm not talking about personal blogs here). I...
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- Nikolay Kolev
So Techdirt was hacked a bit ago. See their reaction: http://www.techdirt.com/article... it is the reality of owning a web site guys - ANY software is hackable if someone really wants in.
- Adam Singer
@Robert: as I see it Wordpress is as vulnerable as any other web app. Upgrading does good, but preemptive security does more and better. I know Matt and he knows I'm in awe with him and Automattic but simply spoken I DON'T TRUST WORDPRESS as I don't trust any other software. A little WebApp Security Firewall (or at least a little .htaccess rules for admin and preemptive locking of...
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- Matteo Flora
i find it interesting, and depressing that people are blaming Rackspace, they're blaming Wordpress, they're blaming Robert, but no one, *no one* seems to be willing to blame the only, ONLY people who deserve blame: the evolutionary failures that attacked Robert's blog.
- John C. Welch
Thanks to your post, I found backdoor Admin in my own blog (created yesterday apparently). Promptly deleted it, upgraded blog and took other measures, which I blogged about
- Adi Rabinovich
@Matt Mullenweg: "so staying up to date is a must. - Matt Mullenweg" You gave the birth to one of the coolest piece of free software on the net, also your community is strong an love-full, you can do some PRs listening to Scoble that is crying, but you couldn't do anything better than you did. Take it easy man, all your competitors still suck. (PS. also a cleaning utility to understand better if everything is ok on our hosts would be cool ;-)
- simone righini
Matt: What does a user need to provide, in order to be considered for a VIP wordpress.com account?
- Jim Connolly
caveat operator
- Mike Chelen
I would simply like to reiterate the point that if you're going to put free open source software on a rented web server, you need to either know how to administer it or hire someone to do it for you. Neither Rackspace or Wordpress are to blame here. We discuss this with our clients all the time who view web development as a one off expense, then get upset when their site is hacked because it wasn't maintained.
- JP Maxwell
One more point, I think there are way too many false lines drawn over aras of responsibility - "I'm systems, not a PHP programmer. I'm a PHP programmer, not a Javascript person. I'm a designer, not a programmer or a systems person." If you are a WEB developer or responsible for maintaining hosted WEB applications, you need to know a bit about it all. It simply isn't sufficient to demarcate your knowledge sphere and point your finger at the other guy.
- JP Maxwell
Wow !
- ★ Soner Gönül
Having lunch with the JS-Kit guys. Echo really rocks. Publishers are going to love it.
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Is JS-Kit using Echo on its blog? Not much activity in the comments...
- Brent Logan
A warm Bonjour for Chris on my behalf, please! :)
- directeur
Stephen: really soon.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Chris: that is the big question, isn't it?
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
There's a smart friendfeeder I want to introduce to him (Chris, me and that guy share the same love for personal relevancy)
- directeur
does this mean you will drop Disqus?
- Nick Halstead
I don't always "get" technology when it first arrives. Twitter being a prime example. Seeing a page of live twitter like responses though as a reader is not interesting for me. I would rather read through longer intelligent discussion. You're FriendFeed discussions are great, but the js-kit echo demo left me feeling blurry. Granted there are advantages, but am I just missing something, again?
- ASKJDOG
@askjdog you may wish to check out the matrix at the bottom of http://js-kit.com/echo it contains some of our thinking, which i am sure can be expanded upon ... for a deeper dive, click on "Synaptic Web" at the end of the matrix ... it is *one* view of the evolution of the web.
- khrisloux
Bruce: I was off filming an interview with them, I'm not going to write a damn blog post on my iPhone. Geesh. And anyway, I've already written about Echo before. This was just a tease for tomorrow's video.
- Robert Scoble
Nick: I'm very seriously considering dropping Disqus, yes. We're definitely going with JS-Kit over on Building43.com and I'll consider it after using it a while there for my blog.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, how does it compare to the Disqus Reactions?
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: from what I've seen so far JS-Kit is real time, while Disqus isn't. But not sure I'm comparing the newest Disqus stuff. Is Reactions new or is it what I'm already using on my blog at http://scobleizer.com ?
- Robert Scoble
Robert, the Reactions feature is what's below the comments, under "Reactions:" on your blog
- Jesse Stay
I'm betting that Disqus will have an equivalent out very soon - if so, is it really worth switching just for real-time, considering you'll have real-time shortly?
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: I think real time is worth switching for, but then you see how I use real time here on FriendFeed.
- Robert Scoble
I'm betting Disqus, because they've had a chance to see the competition, will release something better. I'm just not one to switch back and forth constantly though.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: I still haven't switched my blog, but we did go with JS-Kit on Building43 because the JS-Kit folks seem to be ahead of the Disqus ones. We'll see if we switch my blog.
- Robert Scoble
Thanks @khrisloux I'll read that article, and take another look at the feature matrix.
- ASKJDOG
Either way both Disqus and JS-Kit are BOTH excellent systems from what I've seen, and I'm sure they will both continue to evolve.
- ASKJDOG
@Robert thanks for the lunch - was too much fun catching up again
- Chris Saad
Can't wait to try this but I'm going to extract my existing blog and test on an alternative platform
- Joe Dawson
good to read the discussion between Jesse and Robert: I very much want to choose the best commenting platform, and not switching bak and forth.. both disqus and current js-kit(future: Echo) have their plusses and minuses. Guess some sort of final decision on my side will take another couple of months, in the mean time staying with disqus and eagerly waiting for Echo...
- Jeroen De Miranda
Are either Echo or Disqus able to pull comments (not just posts) out from behind Facebook's garden wall onto one's own blog?
- David Sanger
I found an example js-kit on Building43 blog to check out...
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Breaking: Wordpress MySQL injection – how to fix latest attack %&({${eval(base64_decode($_SERVER[HTTP_REFERER]))}}|.+)&%/ | AndySowards.com :: Professional Web Design, Development, Programming Freelancer, Hacks, Downloads, Math and being a Web 2.0 Hipster? - http://www.andysowards.com/blog...
is geen probleem bij ons - wij zitten al een tijdje op WP2.8.4
- Jeroen De Miranda
http://www.techcrunch.com/2009... over hetzelfde onderwerp, nu in TechCrunch - hier de oproep om vooral 'Sterke' wachtwoorden te gebruiken (lange wachtwoorden met voldoende 'special characters' (&%%^$#@ etc); zorg er ook voor dat je totaal verschillende wachtwoorden gebruikt op de belangrijkste sites (WP, Ning, Google, twitter, ...)
- Jeroen De Miranda
hetzelfde onderwerp http://thenextweb.com/2009...
- Jeroen De Miranda
ik heb voor alle zekerheid de lijst van Users in WP gechecked - er staan geen vreemde 'beheerder'-gebruikers tussen (had ik ook niet verwacht; we zitten al een tijdje op WP2.8.4; dat is de laatste versie)
- Jeroen De Miranda
louisgray.com: Twazzup Live: Best Twitter Profiles Anywhere, Powered by Real-time - http://live.louisgray.com/2009...
"The new live.twazzup.com service, in contrast, focuses less on the numerics of one's profile, but what actually happens when they hit the send button."
- Anthony Farrior
from Bookmarklet
have just tried Twazzup; pretty impressive! Especially finding out who is influencing others is a useful feature.
- Jeroen De Miranda
Is anyone having problems with drag-n-drop in WP 2.8? I can't use it either in the Widgets admin, or in NextGen gallery, from either FireFox or IE.
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This is bizarre. I auto-upgraded several WP installs to 2.8. Drag-n-drop works on all but one. So I tried unzipping a full install and uploading it - didn't fix it. Using another theme doesn't help. Could there be an entry in the DB that affects drag-n-drop?
- John Craft
Yep, I'm having the same issue. Drag-and-drop doesn't work for me at all, which cripples the new widget section. :( I've only performed one upgrade so far and am not reluctant to do any others...
- Michelle McGinnis
there is an issue with the thesis template; they have an upgrade version 1.5.1 that solves this problem
- Jeroen De Miranda
yup, I have heard that about Thesis, but I don't have it and I'm getting the same issue. It maybe is a coincidence, but seems to have started after instaling a plug-in LocalAnalytics. anybody got a solution for non-Thesis user?
- lucato
Other weird behaviours were that all plug-ins became deactivated. Other was that some plug-ins are missing info/images in the back-end.
- lucato
My WP MU has been behaving weird also. Lost the functionality to upload/add self-hosted images
- TrafficBug
"Truth in Marketing" - Louis Gray: Who would have thought those 3 words together? - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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what to do when your company is being 'attacked' on twitter, facebook....some interesting thoughts (Guy Kawasaki, Louis Gray, others)
- Jeroen De Miranda
this is a real issue and very good gentlemen
- Thomas Power
Totally agree Louis..Let the agitator speaks with themselves!
- Marieme
JS-Kit Community Wiki / Feature-List - http://wiki.js-kit.com/Feature...
Hoi Peter, wat vind jij van JS-Kit? al naar gekeken?
- Jeroen De Miranda
nee, zag het vanavond via een tweet van @scobleizer. Vroeg me direct af hoe ik dit weer moet plaatsen in de "brei" van tools ... wat is jouw mening ?
- dehaaspeter
erg goed tool; heb het onlangs ingezet op http://www.ambtenaar20.nl - kan er voor zorgen dat er meer integratie komt tussen blogs en allerlei livestreaming tools zoals twitter etc. Ook erg goed voor authenticatie van commentatoren. Een van de meer belangrijke nieuwe web 2.0 tools denk ik.
- Jeroen De Miranda
Jeroen, bedankt. Ik ga zeker kijken of het iets is om op mijn blog te integreren
- dehaaspeter
You know you're working to hard when your boss @khrisloux tells you to go out and have more fun :)
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You know you're working too hard when you forget the difference between "to" and "too".
- Louis Gray
Who are you, the grammar police? :)
- Chris Saad
In short, yes.
- Louis Gray
take some rest; you are doing a great job - thanks for the support !
- Jeroen De Miranda
Re: Real time comments will piss off pro bloggers (at first) - http://scobleizer.com/2009...
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"By the way, you can chat with me now."
- Robert Scoble
"By the way, you can chat with me now."
- Robert Scoble
just curious: will disqus and js-kit end up serving different types of users; or will this remain a head-on collision competition?
- Jeroen De Miranda
Jeroen: they have different philosophies on which course comments should take, so I think they will serve different users.
- Robert Scoble
The solution is simple: auto-refreshed ads integrated in real time comments. Every 25 (or so) comments, the auto-refresh adds an ad int he comment stream. Problem solved - pro bloggers are rewarded for active conversations.
- Trent Hamm
Robert, thanks; it acks my idea about the two products. Went for js-kit; am happy with it
- Jeroen De Miranda
Trent: you're assuming that someone would be willing to pay for that (unlikely to be clicked) ad...
- Joel Bennett
BTW, Robert - when you were at StartPad last week - I forgot to show you my OTHER recent project - a Real Time Link Discussion Service - http://Go2.me. Any link you send from Go2.me gets a real-time chat room in a side-bar.
- Mike Koss
Are the comments real time for everyone? I am not having that luck -- we ran a few tests. I even have the blank file on the server that they call for.
- Ben Hanten
People are willing to pay for (even less likely to be clicked) banner ads, and they're not streamed into the middle of content.
- Trent Hamm
ECHO commenting systems - http://js-kit.com/
Echo is the next generation commenting system. It’s the way to share your content, and watch the live reaction. You can quickly embed Echo on WordPress, Blogger, or any website and turn your static pages into a real-time stream of diggs, tweets, comments, ratings and more.
- Hans Mestrum
Hans, ik heb dit geimplementeerd op http://www.ambtenaar20.nl ... probeer het eens zou ik zeggen!
- Jeroen De Miranda
What We Can Learn From Mess - http://www.avc.com/a_vc...
analogie wordt getrokken met een 'leanere' overheid
- Jeroen De Miranda
from Bookmarklet
dit artikel gaat over Craiglist (CL) laat zien hoe je met relatief weinig inspanning een succesvolle web 2.0 onderneming kunt bouwen - vergelijking tussen CL en Yahoo is erg interessant (aantal medewerkers en omzet)
- Jeroen De Miranda
Just bought and installed the HeadWay WP theme. I'm now looking for a designer to overhaul my blog and give it more of a professional look. Looking for a custom header (with image) to be made, as well as complete blog overhaul. If you are looking to make some extra cash shoot me an email mikefruchter@gmail.com. Please include examples of your work!
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I'll always give the FF community a job opportunity first. Please pass this along to out of work designers. Offer expires in 48 hours.
- Mike Fruchter
bump
- Mike Fruchter
Mike, did you consider the Thesis WP framework? just curious....
- Jeroen De Miranda
Mike - perhaps I can help!
- andy brudtkuhl
Andy, email sent
- Mike Fruchter
Jeroen, I looked at Thesis originally.I was impressed at what HeadWay can do, same functionality as Thesis and much less of learning curve.
- Mike Fruchter
I find it difficult to find other tweeps/friendsfeeds's google reader stream/url, any tips?
use friendfeed search
- Jeroen De Miranda
thx! put "service:googlereader" in search field
- Bart
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