You can now get a daily or weekly email digest for anybody's feed on FriendFeed. You'll get a daily or weekly email with the most popular posts from that person's feed. To get the email, click the "Email/IM" link at the top of anyone's feed, and select the "Best of day" or "Best of week" email option.
Thanks to Kevin for doing a great design for what turned out to be a more complex set of UI options than we had originally anticipated, and thanks to Tudor for implementing the email backend.
- Bret Taylor
I now get the FriendFeed Feedback posts as a Best of Day email so it doesn't fill up my feed, but I don't miss feedback. I also set up a "Best of Day" email for my "Technology people" friend list so I get a pretty good overview of tech news every day via email.
- Bret Taylor
This is a really cool idea Bret, I wish you can make that an RSS feed option as well. I'd be much more likely to read summaries in RSS than in email.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Casey: Thanks for the tip. What's the 7 before the "?" mean in the URL? The number of likes or replies needed to be included?
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
this is killer, the random influx of email during the day was kinda getting fail-ish. I love the daily digest.
- Drew Lucas
Very cool! Any way to get archives of previous months? (especially helpful for those of us who leave the internet for weeks at a time...)
- Mitchell Tsai
Ahsan: it is somewhat random right now when the emails are sent, but we built in the backend capability to control what time they are sent, and we plan on exposing that control to users in the future. Right now, it is kind of random - sorry!
- Bret Taylor
Cool! can i get a daily or weekly email digest for the "Saved searches"?
- 0M0M
from email
This will be incredibly useful. Thanks to all involved in the design and execution.
- Kathy Fitch
But what exactly is "Best"? Is it anything that has a certain number of likes/comments?
- Laura Norvig
@Bret LOL THAT WAS MY PROJECT! I will release it tomorrow. But you've also did it and killed my friendfeed application **sigh** But mine has multi-reporting weekly-daily-monthly at the same time and adjustable entry count!
- Alp
@Bret please consolidate me or I won't code new apps with you api! :-)
- Alp
Alp: we were not trying to withhold data. Later today the documentation will be updated to reflect the ability to obtain "Best of" for users. The feed id will be USERNAME/summary/N (similar to "Best of" for lists)
- Benjamin Golub
Hi Ben, that is pretty funny, I tried that URL earlier today to see if it has been secretly released :)
- Paul Kinlan
Bret: While Twitter struggle to keep their fail whale under control, you guys are developing stuff like this. Amazing - Thanks!
- Jim Connolly
awesome feature, this will be highly useful for my corporate group ideas / content sharing; projects, etc.... THANK YOU :)
- Susan Beebe
Great work. I especially like that it works on lists too.
- Meryn Stol
my inbox might say different, but I like that :-)
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Wow, this is really neat! And it links into the idea I expressed earlier, re: reducing signup friction / enabling limited guest privileges. Imagine if I could embed one of my FF rooms on my personal web site, and enable people to subscribe to that feed by e-mail with just a couple of clicks... rather than saying "you can get e-mail notifications but you have to sign up for Friendfeed first." "sign up" -- though admirably lightweight on FF -- is still a huge barrier.
- Adam Lasnik
is there a love button cause I dont like this option I LOVE this option..great work guys
- (jeff)isageek
Three options I would like (1) Can I select "top 100" instead of "top 30"? (2) Could I select both "best of day" and "best of week"? (3) How about older timeperiods? I'd love to get an e-mail with stuff from last week or Mar 2009? Start & end dates? Anything to help me read FriendFeed off-line would be great since I spend long periods off-line at festivals (especially during summer time) or overseas. - Awesome job guys!
- Mitchell Tsai
So this works on groups too, cool! But we still cannot see Best of for groups on the site on friends lists. :-( I have several friends lists that include just groups and when I select to view the best of the page it's empty (even though if I got to the individual best of for those groups there are entries there).
- Kol Tregaskes
does anyone know of a web service that can do this? (I'm thinking weekly email updates of my favorite feeds/people) I don't think there's anything like friendfeed ..
- Franc, a rememberer
Ross and Dan made this video to illustrate the advanced technology we use behind the scenes at FriendFeed. (Ross and Dan, you are amazing - I can't believe how awesome this thing turned out)
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
How very creative. This is very fluid and cool.
- Louis Gray
OK, not exactly what I was expecting, but very cool.
- Kevin Arth
Anyone have the video somewhere other than Youtube? it's banned here in Turkey and I can't wait until we get home (next month) to watch it!!
- Chris Myles
This is superb. I just showed it to my 5 year old son who enjoys Lego and has already taken some great photos, including one or two of his toys. So now he has the seed of the idea that, in time, he could take multiple stills and put them together to make moving pictures. Thank you very much for posting it and giving me and him that opportunity. Maybe, he might use FriendFeed one day too!
- John W Lewis
I think they need to make a full stop-motion version of the Matrix in legos. Now THAT would be awesome. I wonder what bullet-time looks like in LEGO?
- Bret Taylor
i'd pay to see the stop animation lego matrix, but not the sequels
- patrick
"Equipment Generously Provided By Casey Muller" - hahaha!! THIS IS AWESOMESAUCE!!! I love the creative energy and vibe in this video... LOTS of work went into that one! Thanks guys!! :)
- Susan Beebe
Genius, how much time did that all take?
- Wayne Hornsey
Chris Myles: if you want ot - DM me an address and I'll mail you a copy.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
"As a devoted FriendFeed user, I have tried to convince all of my friends and family to join the site, but a handful of them never quite got their accounts set up properly. With our new Recommend friends feature, I can fix their FriendFeed experience by recommending subscriptions to them." Try it out at http://friendfeed.com/friends...
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
What am I supposed to get when I click the 'recommend friends' link on someone's pop-up? Currently, the popup just goes away and I don't get directed anywhere else.
- FFing Enigma
Fred: yah, unfortunately, you can only recommend people who you are subscribed you and who are also subscribed back to you.
- Bret Taylor
Mark, I didn't submit a bug report since what is supposed to happen wasn't actually spelled out on the blog post or here; this might be the intended functionality... I hope not, but it's possible.
- FFing Enigma
Tina: it is supposed to pop up a dialog. Sorry for the trouble - we will look into it.
- Bret Taylor
At first I did not understand this, but now that I am checking it out, it is brilliant and addresses much of what we have complained about. NOW what will we complain about?
- Liza + = ?
Just to confirm Bret, the first image in the blog post is what the pop up is supposed to look like, right? Because that's nothing like what the ff.com/recommend page looks like....
- FFing Enigma
I notice that new subscriptions are automatically added to one's home feed. I consider that kind of a bug.
- Meryn Stol
Tina: yes, that is correct. The http://friendfeed.com/friends... page is just a list of people that we think could use some friend recommendations since they have few subscriptions. If you click on any of the "Recommend" links on that page, you will see the same, standard "Recommend friends" dialog.
- Bret Taylor
Where would we find recommendations that others suggest to us?
- Fred Yankowski
@Bret, who receive the recommandation see also who is the recommender?
- Roberto
Fred: You will receive an email as well as a notification on the top of your feed.
- Ross Miller
Roberto: yes, they see who recommended
- Bret Taylor
Bret, if I recommend friends to people who haven't signed in for a long time, will they get email? A lot of my bored friends are not active FF users I think. (quite logical)
- Meryn Stol
Not getting the pop-over when I click 'recommend' on the friendfeed.com/friends/recommend page either... FFox 3.0.12 if it's relevant.
- FFing Enigma
and can I see who has accepted my recommendation?
- Roberto
Roberto: You won't be notified if they accept/deny as the recommender.
- Ross Miller
Ross: Ah, it just appeared on my feed. Cool. (And thanks Meryn)
- Fred Yankowski
Meryn: yes, they will get an email with your recommendations
- Bret Taylor
from email
Bret, I accidently just received an email with previous recommendations. I had already viewed them through the web-interface. But indeed, it's there. Email looks good too, as I expected of course. :)
- Meryn Stol
hey Robert Scoble....I have a trade proposal....you send my name to all your friends...i send your name to all of my friends for the rest of my life....
- Bob DeMarco
I would like that deal, too, Scoble. I like this a lot.
- Ben Hanten
Bob: I charge $1 per friend. :-) just kidding, but the UI makes it so hard to send you to more than a few people.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Bret: You guys rock! This is so much better than FollowFriday, which I recommended just a while back. Now, I'm waiting for some recommendation emails! :)
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
If there’s something about friends and family not having their account set up properly, I’d prefer a way to recommend them the streams they forgot to add. For example, I could tell them “You forgot to add your Digg stream and your fourth and eight blog. Here’s the link.” Then he could just click the recommendation and had it set up easily.
- Natsuki Seika
As I have lots of subscriptions the pop-up window is *really* slow and always has been since the new UI (same thing for amending friends lists). :-( I like the feature though, so I could make a new friends list of my most recommended users and use that each time for each user?
- Kol Tregaskes
Very True Loic you made it very clear how easy it is to follow the comments!!
- Paul
FF only works as a feed reader if you like "river of news". If you don't, then it isn't good enough.
- Ian Betteridge
from twhirl
I will not follow you on that one. A think both have very different missions. GReader really is a tools while FF is also a communication device
- Eric Sausse
from twhirl
it has already replaced it for, right now I'm going through some 4 days old posts in gReader, I tend to stop by there less and less
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
from twhirl
With out google reader or twitter, FF would not be what it is today. Remember it's a big circle jerk. I do not see FF killing google reader nor twitter any time soon.
- Mike Fruchter
when will we be able to like comments? :)
- Tim Hoeck
FF certainly doesn't have enough people talking about every single topic I subscribe to. I'm glad you guys aren't preachers at a church, the end of the world would have supposedly been last week.
- Shawn Farner
For me, Google Reader is an even more essential part than Twitter of my FriendFeed experience. So ... as said before... FriendFeed will _not_ kill Google Reader or Twitter, etc. What is happening, however, is that often, the items in Google Reader are arriving after I've already read them via FriendFeed.
- Louis Gray
These things always go on through June. Then we have the killing. Or something like that.
- Michael Markman
Eric Sausse, you have a good point, you cannot add just a feed in Friendfeed, they first need to be registered there and added their feed. But FF could add that very easily, adding feeds from people who are not in FF. Then it would put pressure on them to finally jump into the bandwagon
- Loic Le Meur
I agree with Louis & others - GR feeds FF for me.
- R. Ferguson
You can "just add" a feed in FF -- check out the imaginary friends feature
- Brian Sullivan
FF lets you publish your *filtered* google reader shared items, together with other stuff, to make an impression of you and your interests. That's how I see FF: almost a snapshot of a personality. For me GReader is a tool that you can use to filter items into your FF.
- IanBlackburnold
Brian Sullivan, thanks I was wondering the imaginary friend thing! now I know. Here we go, no need for Google Reader anymore...
- Loic Le Meur
yeah, I wont use FF for all of my feeds, I am subscribe to way too many and have already my routine with it. FF is more of a discovery + conversation experience for me
- Gilbert Corrales
from twhirl
Ian, right: I don't want people to form an impression of me based on my subscriptions to D:Listed, TMZ, The Superficial, and Perez Hilton, unless they are really really important, then I'll share the story. And now I've tipped my hand. But anyway: there's a community for feed discovery already: Tuluu. GReader + FF is about what's interesting from the feeds.
- Mark Trapp
I'm with the GReader feeding FF crowd on this one. I use GReader to get the news I want and FF to share it and create conversation. FF is a great discovery tool but I still read a ton of stuff in my feeds before it appears on FF. The UI is set up better for conversation rather than just information digesting IMO.
- Devlin Dunsmore
@devlin I agree... i'm finding it very hard to read pages and pages of link/comments on FF.
- Gaurav Sikka
I hope FriendFeed doesn't kill Google Reader. I find them both vital but I couldn't substitute one for the other.
- Kevin Fox
Again, this isn't going to happen. Services don't always have to exist just to kill other services. Especially ones that do different things
- MG Siegler
FriendFeed adds much value for me, but the only thing it's killing is time and maybe Scoble's marriage. I wish Loic would work on something more productive like getting Apple to make Seesmic videos work on the iPhone!:-)
- Robert Seidman
We like having a choice for everything we do, but on the other hand, we expect (and sometimes hope) one choice to kill another. No wonder the world can't live in peace all together ;)
- Turker Keskinpala
I never liked Google Reader's UI, but I feel right at home with FriendFeed.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
So true, but time flies too fast when im on friendfeed, i cant stop reading and sending messages! Great conversations though!
- Scott Purdie
going to have to disagree ... couldn't possibly get through all my feeds via FF - just too many for the FF interface
- timepilot
Google Reader is a feed reader, FriendFeed is a feed generator. Sorry, they serve completely different purposes (at least to me). No killing here.
- dgw
friendfeed doesn't allow me to categorize sources, nor can I tag or flag specific feed items in a way that makes it easy for me to refer back to later. for al the hype about friend feed being where the "conversation", it seems like a really poor utility for that. I see that on this blog post alone, the "conversation" is distributed across friendfeed through google shared reader posts, twitter references, disquss comments. The techcrunch "Twitter" post is even a better example. fractured conversation.
- bernie
When will folks realize FF is something NEW? IT isnt goign to kill much of the other stuff.
- Soulhuntre
from twhirl
would love keyboard shortcuts for FF too
- Loic Le Meur
FF is useful as a human filter on the old echo chamber of tech but could never replace a feed reader. gReader shared items into FF is part of the signal for me, but, not a replacement. Much like RSSMeme and it's FF filter. And then there's the twisty bit where I read FF via a feed readier in the first place ...
- Ashton
I'm still new to FF, but I like the search function that Google provides to even the oldest of the feeds. Not sure I would want the number of feeds I subscribe to coming through to FF. I like the combination of posts and conversation along with a few updates from other services like flickr or Digg. I think the 'conversation' would be seriously degraded with the addition of a number of RSS feeds. I would need to see how well FF handles growth before moving from Google Reader.
- Brenda Young
friendfeedCommentAnchor [v0.1.0] - http://wittman.org/project... - A user script, a bookmarklet and an alternative configuration userscript (has autoCommentAnchor turned ON). To add a permalink to each comment. The hyperlinked text default is "#" (you can change it in the Configuration section to "permalink", "linky", etc in the user script). Works in single post and stream modes. Tested on Firefox and Safari.
- Micah
Special Note ~ Post image: NOT A HASH TAG :)
- Micah
I started the group ffhacks to house a concise listing of user scripts: http://friendfeed.com/ffhacks . If you have a script that works on the current version of FriendFeed, and you're its author, write a comment on http://friendfeed.com/ffhacks... with the link and I'll share the original friendfeed post to the group.
- Micah
Does it only work to other users with the script enabled?
- Andrew Trinh
The anchor is the comment <div> container id which has been there all along; there simply has not been a user interface to conveniently access it. So yes, a URL with the anchor will work for anyone regardless of script usage (tested in Firefox & Safari).
- Micah
ianf, yep. I try anyway. I remember one or two conversations you had anchors - I've wanted access them for a while too. Cheers!
- Micah
#hashanchors should have been there by default, so that you could spend your time on more creative things rather than fixing FF. In fact, absence of this key element of hypertext, granular addressability, tells me that FFeeders really do not care for comments - they're ffodder to the OPs, which are the only ones that rank anything in the hierarchy of submissions around here. I don't...
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- ianf ⌘
"Two weeks ago, we launched version 2 of the FriendFeed API in beta. Since then, we've watched how developers have been using the API and collected a lot of their feedback. We've implemented some changes, and now, we're ready to remove the beta label!"
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
A two weeks beta in the 2.0 era sounds almost blasphem! Congrats!
- Simone Ruffilli
Congrats to Ben and Gary for all their hard work getting this out the door. And thanks to all the developers who have been sending us great feedback the past couple weeks.
- Bret Taylor
"Today we are launching version 2 of the FriendFeed API for beta testing. We focused on making the API simpler to use, and we added number of compelling new features." Documentation: http://friendfeed.com/api...
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
nice, good to see OAuth support, this will enable a larger 3rd party ecosphere around FriendFeed, I hope
- Jeroen De Miranda
After going through the documentation and playing around with some feeds, I love the fact that you can now see the subscriber lists of people who have their feeds set to private as long as you are subscribed to them and authenticate (mimicking the main site functionality). One thing that's absent is a discussion of Direct Messages. Do they show up in feeds if you authenticate? How do we find just direct messages?
- Mark Trapp
Mark: direct messages are accessed using the feed ID "filter/direct". Read more about feed IDs at http://friendfeed.com/api.... Also direct messages appear in the "home" feed.
- Benjamin Golub
Benjamin: ahhh, I see it now. I missed it when skimming that list over. Thanks!
- Mark Trapp
Can you post the wget version of the command line?
- Gabe
Gabe: wget --user=bgolub --password=passwd --post-file=MyPhoto.jpg http://friendfeed-api.com/v2... should work. In theory. Edit: nope. I'm not sure it's possible to do with wget.
- Mark Trapp
Gabe: wget doesn't support multipart forms as a design decision. If you post a file, FriendFeed returns a 404, and if you post data, the query is too long for wget to handle.
- Mark Trapp
Good work, look forward to seeing what developers can create
- Joe Dawson
Woowoo, bgolub's password is “passwd” ;-)
- Amit Patel
Amit: I wonder how many people tested that :)
- Benjamin Golub
Thanks to bgolub posting his password, I now have all of FriendFeed's secret documents about notorious users, useless metrics, Justin Timberlake's promoting FF on Oprah's show, hiring Colbert as a spokesperson, Ev Williams being just a “distraction”. TechCrunch is going to love this! ;)
- Amit Patel
Yes big big thanks to the whole team for all their hard work!!
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
from iPhone
Jeroen: nah, it's just that a lot of us have been traveling the past couple of weeks. Next week is gonna be tough for me to make it, because I'll be inside Facebook's datacenter.
- Robert Scoble
thanks.... checked in yesterday, so that is why I am asking ;-)
- Jeroen De Miranda
you'd think facebook's datacentre would have decent connectivity
- Kevin Marks
Kevin: yeah, except I'm afraid to jack in! :-)
- Robert Scoble
Only if you connect "Open Compute" compatible devices! ;)
- Daniel Chow
Last United flight I did had no WiFi. Few weeks ago.
- Keith Teare
depends how you define streaming... Apple does stream to AppleTV
- Kevin Marks
Apple streaming (whatever it is) vs Netflix vs Youtube? how many Apple TV sold vs maybe Xbox that also streams Netflix?
- Tim Jones
im getting my android apps from the amazon marketplace already, and they took my credit card to give me my "free" angry birds rio, very clever
- Julio Fernandez
to disrupt, an established company typically needs a skunkworks operation that can handle different business drivers as good opportunities
- Jerome Hughes
google doesn't tend to worry about disrupting the cash cow
- Kevin Marks
<== routed trucks by shuffling 96 column cards on a table like the one on which your iMac sits, Robert
- Jerome Hughes
"we can't do that because it would disrupt the cash cow, and our current customers say they don't want it", and still we continue to make most money in tech -Microsoft
- Tim Jones
Tim: I've seen lots of companies that used to be market leaders and used to make a lot of money who are gone now.
- Robert Scoble
Microsoft will just take longer to fall because people hate change but the change is afoot!
- Robert Scoble
whatever Microsoft is doing continues to work
- Tim Jones
Kevin-- first saw actual cricket in background on HD screen in Indian restaurant w/ new clients in BF, Chain o' Lakes, IL, some Cubs fans ignoring, was distracted when shouldn't have been
- Jerome Hughes
ok, time to watch The Masters, txs for the reminder Robert!
- Julio Fernandez
Kevin: watching sport is a great way to waste time!
- Robert Scoble
it's spelled John Borthwick, but it's pronounced Throat WObbler Mangrove
- Kevin Marks
there's a lot of SKUs this time. 9 I count. 16, 32, 64 for Wifi. Same for 3G but x2 (GSM and CDMA). Plus they are still selling the old units..
- Jamie
Apps are definitely a deal breaker for me, personally. That said, we can't ignore these facts: 10 Reasons Why The Motorola Xoom Beats The iPad 2 http://bit.ly/gLfgpv
- Nir Ben Yona
Can you take a photo with the iPad 2??
- Ward Mundy
The Air is light enough to use as a portable cam
- Kevin Marks
said the connector was good for 1080p
- Jerome Hughes
I wonder if Doc has any comments re Monitor Consulting based at Harvard that took Libyan money to burnish the image of Gaddafi. Clay Shirky has been caught up in this as well.
- Jim Posner
Not just MS either. I feel less compelled to invest in full Adobe Creative Suites.
- Alex de Soto
conversation about iOS and iTunes begs the question ... what about the 'protesters' at the Apple event the other day ??
- studentforce
Canadian government cabinet ministers all have government issued iPads.
- Brian Sullivan
funny .... my wife was watching a Xoom commercial yesterday and said ... "take a look at the Motorola iPad" its like calling a tissue a "kleenex'
- studentforce
Different circles - the last 4 people whose machines I jumped on had IE6 :-p
- Denise Howell
Jamie: the UI needs a little bit more work to expose what's interesting there.
- Robert Scoble
ditto needs an iPhone and Facebook...
- Kevin Marks
Denise: I only talk to the tip of the spear. :-)
- Robert Scoble
I hope you fixed that for them, Denise
- Kevin Marks
The Xfinity apps from Comcast are pretty good.
- Alex de Soto
I have an iPhone and Facebook. What I need are friends :)
- Jamie
Kevin: there are lots of computers in conference rooms, lobbies, etc that aren't upgradeable by users and no one cares about them to upgrade them.
- Robert Scoble
It's becoming one channel, with multiple windows.
- Aron Michalski
Someone should caption you with your (er) hand up Robert: "Talk to the Tip!" Re fixing, yes, immediately.
- Denise Howell
Imagine; we've reached the point where we want less channels.
- Aron Michalski
My gogoinflight+iPad experience last week didn't work, the iPad choked on that connection. Also the hotel's later. Annoying; was glad I had the Air along too. (The good news is both fit comfortably in a purse.)
- Denise Howell
I know, Denise. I have both and take them both, too. But that's a problem
- Francine Hardaway
They are protecting the interests of the corporation they are part of.
- Aron Michalski
the chap gave me a channel list, and I had no idea which show is on which channel, as I use a DVR
- Kevin Marks
The network blocking/non-neutrality actions of the providers will be the big issue.
- Aron Michalski
Basic TV and Fat pipe for Google TV is what I have.
- clive boulton
AT&T would give me free install only if I chose a TV package. I'll cancel it.
- Kevin Marks
Even the Time-Warner on demand has half of the primetime offerings, then you have to shift to a different provider on their internet connection to watch Fox/ABC on demand.
- Aron Michalski
make a good app and pay 30% and relinquish your direct relationship with the customer ..... any thoughts on this ??
- studentforce
The cable company bundling packages are non-sensical.
- coldbrew
espn3 is an exception for sports games....watched bowl games that I couldnt get with my limited basic
- dlature
It is signatory issues... Robert is right until the production structure of content is changed to incorporate ads/retail in (and hypervideo will do this) they will shift over to the new model... and like Apple, as they just set the precedent, they will take a piece of the revenue from integrated retail).
- davidlee
It's the value of intent over the value of "cache" there was a story earlier this week of a girl who sells 100,000 copies of her fiction through kindle without a publisher
- Stephen Pickering
Yes, she writes vampire crap for teens, apparently.
- coldbrew
The Last Mile is so important, and Comcast is my only choice
- Stephen Pickering
Coldbrew, yeah I didn't see what she writes, still its interesting
- Stephen Pickering
Pickering: I agree, just pointing it out for those that don't know.
- coldbrew
I mean re-build the company by letting those old divisions die
- Francine Hardaway
And yes, a whole company around UI. That is what APple's doing
- Francine Hardaway
Or maybe it's UX. At bottom, that's what all companies are built around
- Francine Hardaway
The innovator's dilemma is alive and well.
- coldbrew
Give me a tool to create. Give me a tool that will push me beyond my current work. The pen, the typewriter, the computer. The will to write and the ability to say something has to be there; the tool can take you to the next level.
- Aron Michalski
I have a PS3 and browsing on it is just terrible Jim. control pad as an input device really isn't ideal
- Jamie
ffs, everyone send your good health vibes to Borthwick.
- coldbrew
really wish I could browse on my iPad and flick to the tv
- Jim Posner
The Apple iOS device platform is also very adaptable or extendable. Medical devices, sensors, etc. will easily hook up. I'm sure Android and MS will move in that direction.
- Alex de Soto
Hate that part of the new Twitter app too. They did add some interesting features though. You can turn "Ignore local trends" in the settings and turn off pinstripes, whatever that is.
- Alex de Soto
I was happily using the official Twitter client until this update and I'm sure that myself and others will now explore all the 3rd party alternatives again....not good for them.
- Mark Krynsky
Hillary says VoA should become more like AJE. Wonder if the US could produce a credible network.
- Jim Posner
When is Verizon going to give up CDMA for LTE?
- Cliff Gerrish
Danny is missing the point that because it is open and can compete it will force the US carriers to start offering features to compete across the carrier vendors
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
just caught a great screenshot of Steve at his command center. :)
- Karoli
Microsoft smartphone maker is HTC - Ballmer had it at CES- not sure of the model either
- Susan Beebe
Steve's bank of monitors is cool although he needs liker picture in picture or something. LOL
- Jim Turner
Funny. We're using Nexus One on AT&T and it's anything but a brick. In fact, I'm not sure I've even noticed that 3G isn't available. I previously had another Android phone from Rogers that supported 3G on AT&T, and they are virtually identical in performance.
- Ward Mundy
There is lots of analysis saying the google phone web site is the true game changer and not the phone. Anyone agree?
- Jim Posner
Jim, I agree to an extent. Unbundling the phone/carrier is the game changer. no question.
- Karoli
Jim, I think that is the sleeper hit for the first quarter. Instead of the arm-twisting that Apple had to do with AT&T to get the network behavour they needed, Google is now going to make it so that the US carriers *have* to change or be left behind as niche phone vendors
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Cliff, I spent 5 minutes training my Mac for MacSpeech, it's about 98% accurate. Amazing technology
- Karoli
Karoli, did you train your Mac - or did it train you?
- Cliff Gerrish
Anyone catch the Ballmer keynote last night...as a xbox 360 owner I found the natel announce interesting but not much else.
- Jim Posner
On Nexus One, try: Navigate to Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas. In 15 seconds, you're on your way.
- Ward Mundy
Cliff, i don't feel like it trained me...
- Karoli
Karoli, then it was very successful.
- Cliff Gerrish
Ballmers focus seemed retrospective rather than forward looking. Has MS become irrelevant in terms of tech leadership?
- Jim Posner
watching president's presser on CNN on my iphone while watching GG on my laptop. If I mistake Arrington for Obama, just shoot me.
- Karoli
Cloud based phones suck when there's no access to the Net. Try connecting in Cambria, CA.
- Alex de Soto
If you don't have a Google phone, check out Vlingo. I've got it on my Blackberry and I can do voice input wherever there is text input. It's also server-based
- Ted Gilchrist
"Strategic fear" is accurate label for Apple - Arrington nailed it
- Susan Beebe
Apple's too proprietary / closed, could cause them to paint themselves into a corner fast
- Susan Beebe
Aren't web apps on the iPhone completely open?
- Cliff Gerrish
Google knows how to leverage and guide open source projects well... smart code & resource management
- Susan Beebe
Cliff the apps may be open, but the holy Apple App Store is NOT open; highly biased
- Susan Beebe
Apple is a consumer hardware company that invested heavily in the OS to help drive the consumer experience - that's a lot different than the Microsoft and Google focus. They all approach consumers from different starting perspectives.
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
As a first generation phone the Nexus One is as equally impressive as the first gen iPhone.
- Jim Posner
every time i've had to contact tmobile for plan changes or questions the folks have been friendly and able to answer/fix the problem. the phone folks are a lot better then the folks in the stores
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Robert is there 'cause everybody else is there. It's like being a Deadhead.
- Ken Sheppardson
Robert's at CES because, "There's a lot of parties!" LOL :D
- Susan Beebe
HP placing Bing as default search engine is a BAD move for HP... bye bye
- Susan Beebe
Bing has an iPhone app *yawn*. It is surprising to see Bing doesn't render on mobiles
- Susan Beebe
Paul was ranting a bunch this week on M$ - funny stuff
- Susan Beebe
the mono folks have been trying to evangelize the .net/CLR tech and have been berated constantly by Microsoft
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Apple's mobile me is a total failure on Droid too
- Kevin Marks
Microsoft is throwing a lot of money at getting Silverlight to stick, but nothing has stuck yet. They have to pay off everyone to get Silverlight in. Once the money stops, Silverlight disappears.
- Matt M (inactive)
mobile me uses soo many safari-specific html items it reminds me of how some MS products are tied to IE
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
"But after the conclusion of the [olympic] games, NBC went back to using Flash. Another setback for Microsoft came when Major League Baseball Advanced Media, the group that streams baseball games over the Web, decided to drop Silverlight."
- Matt M (inactive)
bear: I think Palm's taken on too much ex-Apple persona to be a Microsoft target. :-)
- Ken Sheppardson
Apps are the KEY game changer in the mobile market. Of course decent signal & data are a must too!
- Susan Beebe
Which do/did you chose first, Karoli: carrier or handset?
- Ken Sheppardson
it's always been handset choice for me - but then again I change phones in 2-3 year cycles so i'm never locked into a contract when I decide to move.
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
I think the typical smartphone decision process these days goes (1) Do I object to iPhone for some philosophical reason or do I so hate AT&T so as to not buy one? (2) if so, which carrier am I on now, (3) what's the best phone on that carrier.
- Ken Sheppardson
that was a 2009 era decision tree - I think the availability of android phones on all of the carriers will now change that for 2010. (or at least I hope it will)
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
with android, there are choices. alot of people like a keyboard
- Tim Jones
There'll be a point where mechancial keyboards are completely replaced with virtual keyboards. (the physical keyboard becomes an object of nostalgia)
- Cliff Gerrish
Kevin just remember that microblogging is a technology and not a service - whichever one of these services let you use that technology in the best way is probably your best choice IMO
- Jesse Stay
from twhirl
Left to right, as if you didn't know already: Dan Hsiao, Casey Muller, Ana Yang, Jim Norris, Tudor Bosman, Bret Taylor, Paul Buchheit (with Camilla), Sanjeev Singh, Kevin Fox.
- Tudor Bosman
That's why I love today's web : you can talk with the people that build the next web, and see those who build your current web. Congrats guys!
- Zackatoustra
FriendFeed Team, I love you !!!! Thanks to you all, I'm very happy everyday!!!
- @Renchin@
So that was the TGIFF ("Thank Goodness It's FriendFeed") party? Perhaps slightly off-topic, but if Camiila hasn't been betrothed yet, have I got a grandson for her ;-))
- ianf ⌘
TGIFF was excellent. Great event and great people.Thanks for the invite and hospitality.
- AJ Kohn
Louis, thank you and thank you to the FriendFeed team for making a killer product and hosting a great open house!
- Brian Solis
(bump) Ana and Casey are now married. Here's a pic of them on the left, between Ross and Jim. Congratulations to Ana and Casey! (per http://friendfeed.com/jessica...)
- Louis Gray
:))))))))) مال بعد از عیده. اواخر فروردین فک کنم
- Aly
That's a rather crappy solution. What if my mom puts me on a list that's "people who are just precious" and I decide that's embarrassing professionally? Now I have to call her to coax her into delisting me when she gets time. Or I can block my mom. Both solutions are kinda lame. Oh well, hopefully Twitter will add more nuanced solutions to this problem soon.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
i thought twitter lists were like rooms here on friendfeed, but i guess it's more of a myfollowfriday type (hype?)...maybe they can tick lists as private by default, then users can make it public later...for now...i'm using lists as rooms like friendfeed
- brainno722 (Peter)
Daniel: That does seem kinda crappy, doesn't it. However, the block/unblock has worked for me in this manner before. If somebody is following you, and you don't want them to, you can block then unblock them, and then they're no longer following you. Of course, you're not following them anymore, so you can then refollow them. I expect that lists might work the same way. When you block...
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- Otto
Switched to Chrome developer release for Mac OS X (http://www.google.com/chrome...), and it was the best decision I have made recently. Firefox/Flash wouldn't stop crashing since my upgrade to Snow Leopard.
Flash slaughters my wife's Air, but does so on Safari, too. We've learned more about kernel_task than we ever wanted to.
- Christopher Galtenberg
It is a problem with Flash I am pretty sure, and it crashes both Firefox and Safari. Chrome does not crash for whatever reason, so I am using it despite its quirks.
- Bret Taylor
Good to know - I've been noticing similar issues with Flash - interesting that Chrome works fine
- Jesse Stay
I like Chrome, but it has its quirks... Personally, I use WebKit nightlies and love it. I also couldn't live without 1Password.
- Chris Messina
Chris, I hear you on 1Password. I do wish there had been a smoother transition regarding the 64-bit issue. I upgraded my keychain but my data wouldn't convert properly, so I downgraded off the beta and have to run Safari in 32-bit mode. But it's still a great app.
- Micah
I have all three browsers open every day as part of my work, but Chrome is the one I like the best. Safari's quality is pretty high, but it has some weird quirks like the developer tools not allowing you to inspect off-domain iframes and auto-unzipping downloaded .zip files (horrible feature for trying to update your Android ROM). Chrome also got me used to tabs on top, something I couldn't go back on now.
- Matt M (inactive)
I hate Flash in OS X no matter which browser, but maybe Chrome's process separation manages to minimize the damage when Flash blows up?
- Victor Ganata
"WPtouch automatically transforms your WordPress blog into a web-application experience when viewed from an iPhone, iPod touch or Android touch mobile device. It comes complete with all the standard WordPress blog features: search, login, categories, tags, archives, photos & more. WPtouch also offers many customization features through a beautifully designed WordPress admin panel."
- Susan Beebe
from Bookmarklet
I use it. I like it. Just wish there was an easier way to change the calendar icons and allow for thumbnails. Of course, that would immediately reduce the loading speed…
- Jason Theodor
I finally got my nightowl powers back...the sickness took them away for a bit! :(
- Carlton Hackett
After 48 hours coffee and tea has stopped working now...Any tips ?
- Sunny (The Geek Lord)
Just when I think I lost my sleepness nights, they find me again. But anyhoo...still up and at 'em. :P
- Jonathan Hardesty
Of course I'm up it's 10 am here. The favs list is great because one can look just when and if one wants and it reduces the number of RTs.
- Michael Slattery
Well most of the Uk is up right now thats alot to follow ;-)
- Yant
Marsupilamima: Bonjour...Thats the only bit of French I know.....
- Sunny (The Geek Lord)
Been up for a while : in a different timezone Robert : does that count ?
- Nicholas Paul Gordon
from iPhone
I am a Proud GEEK and wanna be friends with all the other geeks...
- Sunny (The Geek Lord)
Interesting favorites twits, but yes the background has to be changed! :-)
- Stefano Pietroiusti
from twhirl
Guys/Gals on this thread, As we all are geeks lets subscribe to each other...I don't mind :) what say ?
- Sunny (The Geek Lord)
I really like it, and plan on stealing the idea for a couple specialty Twitter accounts. I wish everyone used favorites. Social search is the future, for me anyway.
- Justin Luey
from FreshFeed
Justin: True, Social search is the future. Human data is precious
- Sunny (The Geek Lord)
Yeah I don't mind it, would just prefer it if done on FF rather than the bird site, but I understand the reasons though.
- travispuk
it's 5:18 AM, so quiet everyone, too much noise can't sleep. Do like the favorite thing though
- Kim Landwehr
what if I don't have an opinion because I don't follow? does that make me a non geek? edit: also. yes. tiled background bad!
- Nathalie
Robert, I scan your favorites to look for interesting new blog and sites... I like this approach; much better than only using the retweet
- Jeroen De Miranda
It's a good way to choose people to follow
- Sherrie Belken
You favored one of my blog posts, cool!
- Marko Saric
thx for the follow. I don't tweet all that much - mostly hang out here. I do tweet more consistently for my work persona, @serviceresource
- Laura Norvig
Every time I see this pop back up, I think: To the left, to the left, to the right, to the right To the front, to the front, to the back, to the back Now dip baby dip, come on let's dip baby dip baby
- Anika
nothing about no u-turns tho! I wonder if it's just telling you the contra code won't work in this zone
- alphaxion
YOU MAY, HOWEVER, LEVITATE UP AND AWAY FROM THE AREA.
- Josh Haley
from iPhone
Roads? Where we're going, we don't need.... roads.
- mikepk
"Do, or do not. There is no try." -- Yoda
- AJ Batac
Heh, if you read it from the bottom up, it's almost like a mirror-image of the Konami code: instead of up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, B, A, start, it's no up, no down, no right, no left, stop.
- Victor Ganata
@Victor Ganata Have you tried the Konami code here on BK?
- Robert Couture
Looks like the navigational nightmare in Nanaimo harbour... a million signs leading nowhere. lol
- Fossil Huntress
"It’s time we put an end to worms and viruses on Twitter. You wouldn’t want to be on a PC without anti-virus protection. Why would you be on Twitter without SocialToo? Consider SocialToo your vaccine for the Social Web." #iamanadvisor
- Louis Gray
from Bookmarklet
Why would you need an anti-virus for twitter? I mean, no offense, but if your antivirus can't secure your browser, you probably have bigger worries than twitter.
- Joel Bennett
Joel, for the same reason millions are being infected by the current worms going around Twitter right now. The fact that it's happening means they need something to protect them - either it's getting past their anti-virus, they don't have it, or this goes far beyond what any desktop anti-virus program can fix. The fact is if they were using SocialToo right now they wouldn't be infected.
- Jesse Stay
How do we get this kind of thing exposure to those who really need it? People who are not techie?
- Eric - seven eleven
Eric, word of mouth - be sure to spread it to your friends, family, etc. We're also working to get the site in a better state for those not familiar with Twitter so it's easier to understand.
- Jesse Stay
Holden's right though - we'll also be working on our end to get the word out.
- Jesse Stay
Holden, we're still working all that out, but I was able to fix today's worms much, much faster than Twitter was. We're also working on tracking trends of keywords people add, along with the DMs people block and mark as spam. All that will add up to enabling us to identify the malicious DMs and stopping them before most people see them.
- Jesse Stay
Regarding price, we're still talking about that - November 1st the new premium plan will go in place that will include anti-virus. I'm not sure what it will cost yet - we'll notify everyone before that happens though and give them the chance to opt-in. I'm still not sure, but my thoughts are that the DM e-mails and reporting will still be free and the automated anti-virus launched today...
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- Jesse Stay
Call me myopic, but I still say this is like buying a new AV "just for email". My bet is those "millions" of infected users weren't protected (at all), and the real story is much bigger than protecting people from clicking bad twitter links.
- Joel Bennett
Joel the other advantage this gives you is you never receive the infected DMs. This sits right on top of your Social Networks and scans them before you even receive them. I know of no anti-virus product that does that.
- Jesse Stay
Holden *currently* just Twitter. I'd like to cover other networks too though. I have a few ideas.
- Jesse Stay
Wait, so ... they have to use a specific twitter client for this to work?
- Joel Bennett
Joel, SocialToo managing your DMs sits in between Twitter and your e-mail or Twitter DM box, period. It doesn't matter what client you prefer, it zaps offending keyword strings that are associated with spam or phishing.
- Louis Gray
Oh, so they're checking the DMs all the time and have permission to delete them?
- Joel Bennett
Congratulations on the launch, Jesse! That'd be cool for many people I guess. But, but... I'm running Linux ALL the time :/ Most of worms won't harm me, let alone that I wrote my firewall and know what happens in my machine :)
- directeur
Holden, that's the marketers job. Jesse, me, and other devs all arround the planet code to solve problems, and bring new ideas, marketers sell it :)
- directeur
Directeur unfortunately when you only have your own software development skills to market your product you have to let your code do the marketing. Enable as many ways as possible for users to tell their friends. That and 2 great marketing experts as advisors really helps as well. :-)
- Jesse Stay
Directeur, regarding Linux - I run a Mac - that doesn't mean I'm not exposed. These worms are spread by people clicking a link, thinking they're on Twitter or some other familiar site, giving their credentials, and boom, it spreads to more users.
- Jesse Stay
If I ever get time I'd like to write a book on marketing for coders. There are ways of expression and promotion with code that I don't think many developers know they have access to.
- Jesse Stay
Agreed, Jesse! :) I run my own business actually and these truths come to bite me everytime I have to pay a bill. All of the work I talk here on FriendFeed is for fun only, I don't care for marketing that much, because I have nothing to sell, but I actually need it to make the fun spread, so marketing is inevitable. Anyway... congrats again! Wishing you good luck! :)
- directeur
Make it very obvious what this feature is. It wasn't easy for me to find. It should be a big red button that says TURN ON TWITTER ANTI-VIRUS. (Just a suggestion)
- Eric - seven eleven
Thanks Eric - that will be much more obvious as we adapt the user experience shortly. I agree - it's not very straightforward at the moment.
- Jesse Stay
I don't see how you are providing distribution. The display is happening in an application attached to the browser. You are saying that because your writing causes me to have a thought you then own that thought. If I want to use a Google product to store and display that thought that is MY right not yours.
- Martin Johnson
Kate, no, it's let your customers come to you, but use the environments they're familiar with to participate right on your own brand. Check out my latest blog post for a good explanation of what I'm referring to. It's a merging of the old and new marketing - I think we're entering an even newer era of marketing.
- Jesse Stay
Wondering about hosting for Tornado, Bret Taylor says you might need your own box. If only there were a hosting co. that focused on the real-time web.
- Cliff Gerrish
Bret said you could use EC2, but you will need more than the cgi access most PHP hosts give you - effectively need to run as root to have the python process listening on port 80.
- Kevin Marks
It's interesting to see a framework (Tornado) that takes the changed landscape of internet identity into account - bundles of identities.
- Cliff Gerrish
Well, it could do more there - talking with Bret they don't actually bind them themselves, but by building in support for multiple versions that is useful
- Kevin Marks
Seems like it's the first step in that direction. Now that Tornado has been open sourced, there's a path.
- Cliff Gerrish
Cliff: EC2 is nice, but expensive for a sandbox ($72 / month). Rackspace Cloud has 256 meg virtual servers that are about $11 / month. Great deal if you ask me. I had Tornado running in about 30 seconds on my RC VPS. The ability to programmatically clone servers with their API makes it a really nice place to launch something like a Tornado async app which could makes use of many low cost, low powered servers for dedicated connections.
- Derek Gathright
Steve its great to see Gilmor Gang up and running!
- earl wallace
I'm going to have to catch the rest of this on replay. Issues w/kid overriding attention stream right now. Hope we get this under control soon.
- Karoli
Great show and happy to see it up on YouTube so quickly for all of us who missed the live stream.
- Mike Hellers
Yes. Then Leo and Arringotn had a fall out live on air. Thats where Leo's famous "Screw You" line comes from. They made up, but that was the end of GG on TWIT.
- Roberto Bonini
Yes I remember it well. You mean Mr.Laporte really did kick you guys off?
- Kevin J Hatton
I still can't get used to seeing 'Bret Taylor - Facebook' lol great show. Where do I subscribe.?
- Kevin J Hatton
Kevin, you could favorite the channel or get word in any number of other ways. I got the channel gadget so it shows up on my iGoogle start page. http://friendfeed-media.com/eaa3f44...
- Amyloo