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4chan may be behind attack on Twitter - http://news.cnet.com/8301-17...
Ben Hanten, Jason Pollock, Melissa and 8 other people liked this
/b/ is relevant again?
- Mike Nayyar
And possibly the suspension of legit accounts by Twitter
- Jesse Stay
Who is 4chan?
- Bill Masson
Oh man. What a mess. At least it's on a Sunday, eh?
- Ben Hanten
I'm curious - if your account was suspended, do you use auto-dm? I'm seeing a common connection, want to verify - answer here:
Ho John Lee, Gordon Saunders, Ben Hanten and Mike Doeff liked this
And if you use auto-dm, what service?
- Jesse Stay
the scripts 4chan were using were auto-posting regular messages to twitter. methinks their tools suspended everyone who goes at about the same rate
- /Users/mjc
Total speculation, but I was thinking that people who tweeted about the 4chan attack (i.e. tweeted something with #gorillap***s) might have been caught up in the suspensions.
- Mike Doeff
Mike, I don't think that's it - look at the sample accounts I listed. I don't see any mention by any of them.
- Jesse Stay
From the Twitter status blog: http://status.twitter.com/post... "Earlier today, we accidentally suspended a number of accounts. We regret the human error that led to these mistaken suspensions and we are working to restore the affected accounts—we expect this to be completed in the next several hours. One additional note: some the...
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- Mike Doeff
Thanks Mike - I updated the post
- Jesse Stay
You know what they say about those quick to judge...
- /Users/mitch/
Mitch, who's being quick to judge?
- Jesse Stay
Twitter Suspending Accounts in Droves - http://staynalive.com/article...
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Louis Gray, Will Higgins™, Peggy Dolane and 30 other people liked this
Good! I have got follows from more spam accounts the past couple weeks than I've ever gotten.
- Mike Bracco
I <3 FriendFeed Real-Time search - it lets me see Twitter Fail, as it happens
- Jesse Stay
Thanks for the heads up. BTW, here is the retweet from the SPAM account: RT @SPAM If someone you just KNOW isn't a spammer is suspended right now, their account is prob contaminated and we're fixing it.
- RAD Moose
I'm glad about the real spammos being zapped, but sure is odd they have to temporarily suspend bona fide accounts in droves!!! Thanks for staying on top of this Jesse. Where is Mashable when we need them?? Nothing from Pete et al yet...
- Mari Smith
Hopefully it will get rid of all those Kathy34982s and Elisa9867s
- Carlton
they're suspending legit accts, but the bots and spammers aren't getting banned the way they need to.
- Dawn S. Lambe
I have gotten a lot of spam followers in the past few weeks.
- John
My account was suspended for some reason. Awhile ago I had some duplicate posts due to wayward drupal module however for some reason it was suspended in the last 4 hours. I was using twollow and was following "online marketing" so that I could learn more from people discussing online marketing. Could this have caused it? I sent in a support request so we will see what happens.
- Brian Kenyon
via iPod
FYI I'm going to update the post but that message from @spam is from May 30 - it appears that Twitter does not yet know about this one
- Jesse Stay
via iPhone
I got suspended and I am not spam! A lot of good Tweets are getting suspended.
- Kimber Scott
Un-oh. Why do they say they are doing it?
- Francine Hardaway
4chan is currently to blame, they were trying to get on the top of trending topics (and succeeded)
- /Users/mjc
Michael, I'm wondering if it happened for some reason due to that. Maybe Twitter got trigger happy to kill the attack.
- Jesse Stay
Doesn't necessarily make sense. If the problem is the gorilla anatomy thing, wouldn't they just go after those accounts?
- John E. Bredehoft
via fftogo
John, has Twitter ever made sense?
- Jesse Stay
"There seems to be a wave of suspensions going around Twitter today, and it’s turning quickly into an echo chamber of confusion and frustration. We’ve received several tips (the first one being from Mashable guest writer Matt Singley) that a range of users are being taken down, including some with large followings such as @marismith and the LA Times Top of the Ticket account." http://mashable.com/2009...
- Kimber Scott
Kimber, check out the comments on my post - you'll see there are many more. Also check out the real-time stream and you'll see people complain real-time.
- Jesse Stay
They suspend @marismith but not @GangbangGirl @cumcandy & @kellikanyon. That's rich
- Peggy Dolane
I use the BlogTalkRadio Tool in the OPML Editor to link up Cinch and Twitter. http://editor.opml.org/blogTal...
Jesse Stay and Mac Sharp liked this
Or you can just add the RSS to FriendFeed and have FriendFeed post to Twitter for you
- Jesse Stay
Dave, Can you explain a little more about this? (in 140 characters?)
- David M Rosenberg
i like when random people @drew me when they mean another drew. I get to meet cool new people with good taste in friends names.
Louis Gray and Bill Kinney liked this
I get that all the time with @jesse - I try to respond as though I'm the person they were trying to talk to. Especially if it's @jessemccartney :-)
- Jesse Stay
The problem is, many who follow back are also bots with auto-follow on. So often it could be bots following bots.
Louis Gray, Jesse Stay and imabonehead liked this
Jeremiah, this is why we focus on auto-unfollow filters on SocialToo. If they meet certain criteria we won't auto-follow them for you (and will unfollow if you're already following them).
- Jesse Stay
Steak, it's what's for dinner: First pic is what I use to prepare my steak. You'll notice that I brush some olive oil on first, then pepper and spices. 2nd pic is raw prepared steak. 3rd and 4th pics are of steak on the warmed grill. Grill on medium heat for 8 minutes flipping once (with cover closed of course) to get medium rare.
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Dead Silence, دکترین, Alfredo and 21 other people liked this
Last pic is the finished result with some salad topped with Newman's Own Italian Dressing and a glass of Cotes Du Rhone wine.
- Alex Scoble
[some comment about gas vs. charcoal grills]
- Akiva Moskovitz
Nom, except for the iceberg lettuce situation.
- Derrick
The Iceberg Lettuce Situation sounds like a McSweeney's short story.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Steak win
- Eric @ CS Techcast
Is that a Weber?
- Eric @ CS Techcast
[ punches it in ]
- Derrick
The recipes are close, Alex!
- MVB
Looking good. Keep it simple FTW.
- mike fabio
Always tastes best when you keep it simple. Steak sauce or no? (did I just start a holy war?)
- Rahsheen ™
Nice and simple. I prefer more of a crusty sear on my medium rare steaks than what you have there, though.
- Christopher Carr
No steak sauce for me, Rahsheen. A good steak doesn't need any, but to each their own.
- Alex Scoble
Yep, it's a Weber Genesis EP-310.
- Alex Scoble
I'm looking at that as my new grill. Trying to decide if it's worth the premium. Any pointers are appreciated.
- Eric @ CS Techcast
Steak and view win.
- Dave - SustainedEuphoria
I went with a Char-Broil for the gas grill. Weber has great quality and a nice line-up I don't think you can go wrong with a Weber.
- MVB
When compared to the quality of the usual suspects at Costco and Home Depot you'll notice two things that make the Weber a winner. The thickness and heft of the cover (keeps heat in) and the stainless steel grills. If you can find a cheaper grill that has a comparable "heat chamber" and a stainless steel grill, then save your money. When I looked I couldn't find those in anything but...
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- Alex Scoble
I agree, Alex. I think putting steak sauce on a steak is just wrong somehow.
- Rahsheen ™
The best marinade for me has always been italian dressing. Haven't found anything that tastes better yet.
- Jesse Stay
Coolio, thanks. Also, I like a bit of sauce, not overdone. A good quality sauce like Smith and Wollensky's sauce.
- Eric @ CS Techcast
I can't say it's wrong, Rahsheen, since I'm marrying a person who likes steak sauce.
- Alex Scoble
8 Minutes on Medium eh... interesting. I like my steak rare, if it's good, I wonder if a medium heat would allow for that?
- Will Higgins™
Which is why we see only one place setting, right? She must have been shopping for some A1 when you cooked that. ;)
- John Rubier
8 Minutes gives you a medium rare steak...you would have to go shorter for rare...
- Alex Scoble
via IM
Heh, no, she's in Salinas visiting with her family, hence the lack of another place setting
- Alex Scoble
via IM
You Choose Sarah's Hobby: Piano or Basketball?
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Lu Tao, Kyle Judkins, Dead Silence and 40 other people liked this
Pianoball.
- drew olanoff
Hi Sarah! We tried to get Audrey to play the piano at my parents' house this weekend but the sounds scared her and she cried. :/
- Rochelle
both!
- pea ♥ fierce as a woozle
She seems more interested in BasketBall than Piano.
- Matt
How about an AudioBoo clip :-)
- Don Bonaddio
Reminds me of a line from a John Hiatt song: "She is beautiful, she is small/She don't want to play basketball"
- Joe Bonner
via fftogo
This is what Sarah and I were doing after escaping from sacrament meeting. She got fidgety, so we wandered around the church. Some of you can no doubt relate.
- Louis Gray
both, definitely!! or defiantly?
- Carlos Ayala
Sarah looks like she's choosing both, so I'll leave it in her soon-to-be capable hands!
- MiniMage (FakeLifePerson)
Why does she have to choose? She can have it all, baby! LOL
- Sheryl
That's a child prodigy in the making!
- Mike Fruchter
I like drew's answer.
- Alex Scoble
That looks like the Relief Society room. We usually just go out to the car and sleep when that happens. :-)
- Jesse Stay
Both. I just turned 20 and wish I learned piano growing up, if only just to be the groundwork to my current musical talents. At the same time, I was never huge on basketball growing up, even though I played, yet I have been playing every day the past week with friends.
- Daniel Zarick
Louis, if we ever move out there Rebecca will be happy to teach the Twins piano - she is now going on child #3 of ours at the piano. I can't say the same for basketball though unfortunately.
- Jesse Stay
In 10 years -- as you're trying to sleep -- would you rather hear the bouncing of a basketball or piano music?
- Robert DeBord
Test Twitter post - 8:22 (I think the Twitter to FriendFeed firehose stream is behind again too)
Nope - looks like it worked.
- Jesse Stay
Odd - Louis Gray's latest post still hasn't come through yet
- Jesse Stay
@Jesse Thanks for the pointer, checking it out now.
/Users/mjc, Gordon Saunders and John E. Bredehoft liked this
I'm also curious if this is Twitter being trigger-happy due to the 4chan trending terms attack today
- Jesse Stay
Jesse, just guide them all to Friendfeed instead.
- Matthew DeVries
Would it be wrong to release a story to the muggles that the Twitter suspensions is Twitter migrating everyone to their upgraded service "Friendfeed" as Twitter is being phased out?
- Matthew DeVries
http://www.tweetlaterblog.com/twitter... Jesse - u don't follow me, couldn't DM you this.
- Matthew DeVries
TweetLater: "We have seen during previous spam attacks that Twitter tends to shoot first and ask questions later and indiscriminately lay down carpet bombing when their system comes under a spam attack. A lot of innocent-bystander accounts get massacred in the process, which they then have to restore afterwards. This is most likely what has happened again."
- John E. Bredehoft
Matthew, thanks - I've updated the post to include more of that data, including my suspicion that it's due to the 4chan attacks
- Jesse Stay
BTW, Tweetlater was among those suspended, so I understand their frustration - I'd be ticked, too
- Jesse Stay
Oh, Twitter. :( #suspended
Ho John Lee, Gordon Saunders, K.D. and Jesse Stay liked this
You're one of them, huh? Wait - how did you post to Twitter?
- Jesse Stay
No, I'm not. It just saddens me to see this happen.
- Damon Cortesi
Me, too - and none of these people can talk about it since their accounts are suspended. Otherwise I bet you'd see a trending topic.
- Jesse Stay
And still no word officially from Twitter, 2 hours later...
- Jesse Stay
Its a disaster, this spamcloud is a bad one
- Bill Masson
If you have a lot of likes and/or comments how often do you announce your milestones?
Jonas Anderson, /home/jhuebel, Johnny Schroepfer and 5 other people liked this
Never.
- Louis Gray
Well that's no fun.
- Alex Scoble
When I have nothing better to say
- Mo Kargas
*sigh*
- Mo Kargas
LOL
- Alex Scoble
42
- Jesse Stay
I don't watch it close enough. It would be nice to see some stats on how much my stuff was liked, rather than how many likes I've made -- that statistic is more indicative of community involvement and how many people's lives I've enriched.
- Andy Bakun
don't
- Amber Spence
I did it once, just because I liked the number
- सत्याग्रह {Bren}
I don't think I ever have, and unless it end some cool or high number, doubt I ever will.
- Grant Bierman
Never
- Soup
If I have a nice round number... I guess my next announcement will be 5000 likes. Very soon, my young padawan.
- Ryo
Whenever I want it pointed out that I'm less popular than that attention-whore Alex :-D
- Slippy 2.0
Only the big ones with only more than 3 commas
- EARL (Born in the USA)
Well thanks to all you party poopers I just passed 45,000 likes and didn't announce it. I'll announce 50,000 though when it happens in about a month.
- Alex Scoble
Never. I don't even pay attention to that.
- Anika Malone
About once a day
- RetiredTeacherD
Only ever noticed one, by accident. Sitting at 664 likes. How do I not announce I'm about to like 666?
- Matthew DeVries
I don't pay attention to the stats stuff
- BEX
I did once, but I faded from that. I just started having fun with this stuff on FriendFeed and all that seemed to fade into the background. Funny, huh?
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
Haven't. Likely won't.
- Abby Martin
I stopped long ago.
- Russellreno
I pay no attention to such things.
- Jason Wehmhoener
Way too busy doing other things to even look at that stuff.
- Ken Camp
I was shocked to see that 1000 people were subbed to me and at the time said something to the effect that I can't believe 1000 people could be interested in anything I have to say.
- Derrick
I don't announce any milestones.
- Jim:Rockin the Helvetica
I don't unless someone else mentions it. I don't think about it. Oh, that reminds me. My FFirthday was July 1st.
- Rodfather
I don't know if I ever have here.
- Joe Pierce
Never. I have no idea where I stand. Even though the numbers are right there at the top.
- Rahsheen ™
Never. I don't even look. I figure I will have worn out my welcome when all my posts are met with silence, then exit stage left.
- Dave - SustainedEuphoria
Every once in a while. Not bragging, mind you. I just have a number obsession. :-)
- /home/jhuebel
via iPhone
Tech execs: how to reach “normal” users with PR and with TechCrunch/GigaOm et al - http://scobleizer.com/2009...
Sam Houston, ShadowSilent, Tac Anderson and 14 other people liked this
The PR advice in the New York Times I read really is horrid.
- Robert Scoble
It's amazing how bad most tech companies do when it comes to PR. By the way, I laid out the best advice I ever gave on this topic back in 2003: http://scoble.weblogs.com/2003... what did I say there? Talk to the grassroots first. That is why I use Twitter and FriendFeed. That's where the grassroots are.
- Robert Scoble
I deal with this every day when I talk to NY firms. It's frustrating that they think they only way to get through to people is either cute videos or TV ads. Why don't we just ASK our customers what they want?
- Tyler Hurst
Great write-up. Surprised that you mentioned Techcrunch over Mashable. In fact, you didn't mention Mashable at all..! Any particular reasons for that?
- K N Ajit Narayan
KN Mashable isn't nearly as influential as Techcrunch is, most of my friends don't mention it. Mashable is switching to a Twitter news network, too, which makes them influential on Twitter, but not overall. Mike really has owned the tech news space and continues to do so.
- Robert Scoble
K N: also, note, I was riffing off of the New York Times article that mentioned TechCrunch and not Mashable. There's a reason for that.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, also keep in mind that most of your friends are in Silicon Valley. Mashable is very talked about on the East Coast. I think it's definitely worth considering, personally.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: exactly. Notice that Brooke Hammerling lives in New York. Even SHE doesn't talk about Mashable.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, good point - regardless, people always end up looking to Silicon Valley for their news.
- Jesse Stay
Isn't this more general than PR? The main point, as I got it, was about cynicism. Isn't any communication of opinion, whether cynical or not, contributing to the multi-faceted picture that people get of ... well, anything that we want to hear about?
- John W Lewis
Jesse: I thought Pete Cashmore even moved to SF to cover Silly Valley more.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, I agree that TechCrunch is more influential but Mashable has been coming on strong. Look at this comparison on Compete.com http://siteanalytics.compete.com/mashabl...
- Mike Doeff
John: yes.
- Robert Scoble
BTW Robert, welcome to the UK! Hope to see you tomorrow.
- John W Lewis
Mike: traffic does NOT equal influence. I can have more influence than you have by having just one reader. Think about it. If Obama read me and you had 1000 "normal" readers, who has more influence?
- Robert Scoble
Robert, is he in Silicon Valley now? Interesting. Sounds like he needs to be networking more then.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: I've watched both work. Mike digs for news more and is more tied into the VC infrastructure here, which gets him more news.
- Robert Scoble
I know when I tried to talk to him I was practically ignored, even though it was about a common client. Not that it would have had any effect on influence. I've just had a better impression of Arrington, personally.
- Jesse Stay
Robert, I agree that TC still has more influence but still, Arrington can't be happy about that trend line on Compete.com.
- Mike Doeff
Mike: Mashable is outplaying Techcrunch on Twitter and Mashable is better at writing articles that get Google page rank, like reviews of lots of products. That doesn't equal news influence, but does get traffic. I also think Arrington also made a huge mistake deleting his FriendFeed account (FriendFeed is a top three traffic driver for me already).
- Robert Scoble
Robert, why did Arrington delete his FriendFeed account? You are right about Mashable. On Twitter, one gets the impression that Mashable is more popular than Techcrunch. But that may not hold true elsewhere.
- K N Ajit Narayan
K N: He got mad at the "mob" that formed here after his fight with Leo Laporte and deleted his account. Repeat after me, popularity does NOT equal influence.
- Robert Scoble
Arrington like like a nice guy. Yes, popularity does NOT equal influence. LoL
- K N Ajit Narayan
The chance that an individual will be sufficiently interested in something to pass it on and, thereby, create a mob effect depends on many factors (and, surely, these have been well studied?). Presumably, something must be significant, remarkable (literally), relevant, and so on. The source of the thing has an effect, I guess, in terms of credibility, reach, etc.. And for the original...
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- John W Lewis
Yeah, I always used to tell people they could get more great PR by going to parties at conferences (or better yet, throwing them) than they could get with a big expensive PR firm. When I was a big fancy magazine editor I would habitually filter out any incoming messages from big PR firms, since they were usually content-free at best, and BS-laden at worst. People who I met at parties had way better stories, rumors, and other intell for me than PR flacks!
- Fred Davis
I used to work for a technology consulting firm. Many new client relationships originated from conversations with people in neighbouring seats on flights. We often suggested dropping the advertising and giving everyone a free trip once a month!
- John W Lewis
John & Fred - yes and more yes. Talking to people is remarkably effective. Who knew?
- Tyler Hurst
well I commented here http://scobleizer.com/2009...
- Darren Stuart
The NY Times story was terribly unflattering. I can't blame Ms. Miller - some of the voices quoted were the antithesis of what I've aspired to be. If that's what she's experienced, we as a profession need to take a serious step back and re-evaluate our purpose. I was so peeved I spent my 4th trying to craft a reasonable response. (http://bit.ly/113wnu). So much for BBQs.
- AllisonWagda
Hacks continue to paint flacks as they are. But that these flacks represent what is going on in the industry and the sea change afoot couldn't be farther from the truth.
- andy
Robert - really didn't like how you generalized PR people in your article. Further, the reality is there are very few people in Silicon Valley at all who actually know anything about taking products to the real mainstream. Very, very few.
- Jeremy Toeman
Outcast was the sole voice of reason quoted in that story.
- AllisonWagda
Damn right.
- andy
One need only see the top trending topic on Twitter now to recognize at times, the inmates run the asylum. Embarrassing.
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There's the link to Chris's spam!
- Jesse Stay
Only the one about gorillas is mystifying to me.
- Stephen Mack
via iPhone
Stephen, much of what I have seen is very racist. Some of the avatars have swastikas. Kid you not.
- Louis Gray
Looks like someone's gotten a bot to manipulate the system.
- Jesse Stay
As Sam already pointed out above, @streko tweeted a link that explains what has happened: http://bit.ly/11pumZ
- Gordon Saunders
I don't get it, what tool are you using? I'm seeing Miley Cyrus as the top trender
- Matthew DeVries
Matthew, it looks like it's fixed now. Check out the link from Gordon for a screenshot from earlier.
- Rochelle
Which one? No reply necessary.
- Michael Fidler
I've come to mostly ignore the trending topics. They are very rarely the "trending" topic of the people I follow, and even more rarely a topic that I even care to divulge into.
- Daniel Zarick
Louis, I saw that too. More colossal immaturity from 4chan.
- Stephen Mack
via iPhone
There has to be a better mechanism put into in place for the trending topics, it's way to easy to game.
- Mike Fruchter
@Mike, there isn't much that can withstand the sheer number of /b/tards..
- /Users/mjc
New prediction: Twitter will buy TwitPic. Discuss here:
TwitPic has pretty much become the defacto standard for attaching photos to Twitter. It, and Twitter have become almost part of each other. They can't survive without each other.
- Jesse Stay
And rename it TweetPic?
- Mohamed J
i have never used this service once - my prediction is twitter buys whatever betawoks makes
- Allen Stern
Allen what is betawoks?
- Jesse Stay
people who make bitly, etc
- Allen Stern
And what about flickr new service? do you see people posting the pics twice in 2 different services?
- Avi Joseph
Interesting - didn't realize that was all the same shop. They made Summize, too (now Twitter Search). Dave Winer is involved with them.
- Jesse Stay
Avi, I see Flickr being for Flickr users. TwitPic is for Twitter users. Yes, you can Tweet from Flickr, but people will still continue to associate TwitPic with Twitter.
- Jesse Stay
i dont think he is involved with them anymore - yes, they have investments in a large bunch of apps
- Allen Stern
Twitter wants to be more than just status messages - this will give them that added advantage very quickly.
- Jesse Stay
Allen he's still vested I'm sure - he helped code bit.ly
- Jesse Stay
do a search, i think he ended his bitly relationship - i could be wrong
- Allen Stern
Jesse +1 TwitPic for twitter users and added advantage. It's seamless with Twhirl (but does anyone use it but me anymore?)
- randulo
i think it's either a good move or the right move... you pick
- Chris Heath
I think Flickr is a better product, but TwitPic has a synergy with Twitter because of the commenting.
- Peter Warnock
Will FriendFeed's New Search Equal More Real-Time Spam? - http://www.informationweek.com/blog...
Ho John Lee, Johnny Schroepfer, /Users/mitch/ and 21 other people liked this
BUY A BIGGER PENIS NOW!
- l0ckergn0me
Chris? Link?
- Louis Gray
It's possible - spammers will always try to game the system. FF could delete such accounts or do something less drastic such as muzzling them so they can't post anything for a certain period of time.
- Ahsan Ali
Chris, whose?
- Joe Pierce
Most spammers don't know how devious Paul can be. I think FriendFeed will be fine.
- Matt Cutts
via iPhone
my friend.. MY FRIEND IS INTERESTED IN YOUR PRODUCT
- Andrea G
friendfeed is very good at ousting spammers right now, but that is relying on the community to report and staff to monitor and delete accounts by hand. Not sure this approach will scale well when friendfeed gets bigger.
- Laura Norvig
Computational approaches to spam detection work better with more data, which is when the community approach starts breaking down. I'm not too worried.
- Tudor Bosman
Tudor, I'm not worried either. But I am worried that Chris' link didn't work.
- Louis Gray
it will be interesting to see that develop or where it goes for sure. I hope it can be kept to a minimum
- (jeff)isageek
LOL Chris and Louis!
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
Louis, don't they have a pill for the "link" not working?
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
Do You Really Need Silicon Valley PR? [FLOWCHART] - http://www.seanpercival.com/blog...
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You forgot Guy Kawasaki in the picture ;-)
- Jesse Stay
:)
- sean percival
Hmmm. So all people hyping things on Twitter are spammers? The "pure" Twitter is not to ever hype anything, no matter how much you like it? Or if you created it?
- anna
Oh, I'm sorry, all PR is bad. I forgot the mantra.
- anna
Re: Twitter Suspending Accounts in Droves - http://staynalive.com/article...
"Rob, we got your first 3 messages - no need to re-post. If you do I'll have to suspend you from commenting here as well."
- Jesse Stay
Re: Twitter Suspending Accounts in Droves - http://staynalive.com/article...
"John, which account was suspended? I'm seeing @empoprises come up fine."
- Jesse Stay
Re: Twitter Suspending Accounts in Droves - http://staynalive.com/article...
"Mari, thanks for the tip - this is all very odd, and not good that Twitter still hasn't said anything about it. Maybe since you guys can't talk about it on Twitter they're able to get away with it."
- Jesse Stay
I don't think the compass works with the iPod Touch - only the iPhone 3G S.
- Jesse Stay
stop. showertime.
Brings whole new meaning to "can't touch this"
- Jesse Stay
Re: How to reach “normal” users with PR and with TechCrunch/GigaOm et al - http://scobleizer.com/2009...
"Now you get to write while we're asleep (except folks like me with jetlag). We rolled out bit.ly without TechCrunch or TechMeme, just RWW and Scripting News, and me pushing all my Twitter links thru it for months (constant exposure). Back when I was in the top 10 Twitter users (seems so long ago). Re Om -- take another look at his Twitter profile. Not saying he's cynical, but something happened there. McNamee was right -- what he said is the equiv of saying you could launch a product in 2000 w/o MSM. He just needs to have lunch with a few *independent* bloggers, maybe on a regular basis. He's smart, the clues will flow, both ways."
- Dave Winer
who sleeps at this time? This is my prime! :-)
- Jesse Stay
Well in my case it is jetlag keeping me up. :-)
- Dave Winer
Awesome, very southern 4th. Fireworks-related injuries (Grace), great tato salad, way too much food, and yeah, Nascar. Love my family. =)
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I miss VA 4ths! We used to go to Williamsburg for the 4th
- Jesse Stay
Ah, yes! I love W-burg this time of year. And the winter holidays, too, with all the candlelight and mulled cider. I honestly can't imagine spending a holiday anywhere else. Plus, I have the best family in the WORLD. =) How was your day, Jesse?
- Jolie O'Dell
My day got better. I found as I moved around my back felt better so I actually got some stuff done. It's still sore but ended up having a good 4th.
- Jesse Stay
And, just like that, @technosailor and all of our conversations are gone from FriendFeed...
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I'm not "liking" the actions but just acknowledging it.
- LPH™ and his dog P™
via BuddyFeed
It's his choice to delete them. I don't begrudge him that. It's just not a very community-like thing to do.
- Karoli
Yeah this isn't meant to begrudge him - I'm just finding it interesting that FriendFeed deletes *everything*, even if some of those conversations belonged to me. Facebook doesn't delete the entire past when you leave, something they've been criticized for, but I think it's wise.
- Jesse Stay
The way it should be done is if I go back to past conversations I was involved in they'll still appear, but if I visit his profile it will be gone - it's a much more complicated task to accomplish on FriendFeed's end
- Jesse Stay
Well, they're not _all_ gone :) http://friendfeed.com/micahwi...
- Micah Wittman
Dang it - replace the Windstar's radio and now the car won't start. Clicking noise on start, auto-unlock doesn't work either. blown fuse?
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dude, have you considered getting a hotdog and a soda and relaxing :)
- Allen Stern
Dead battery
- Peter Warnock
via Android
Allen I should, but I've got too much to do. Back is actually feeling better the more I stand up and do stuff, oddly enough.
- Jesse Stay
Peter, what's odd is that I'm pretty sure it was working before I changed the radio. Could just changing the radio have killed the battery?
- Jesse Stay
Short? check your grounds!
- Geoff Schultz
Did you unhook the battery before replacing the Radio? Some car have kill relays if the radio is removed with the battery hook up to prevent the car from being stolen also.
- John D Reasor
Jumping it fixed the problem - Social Media wins
- Jesse Stay
At least it's not stuck on country
- Davis Freeberg
or extremely loud techno ala the prank hammond and clarkson pulled on james may in the last episode of top gear
- /Users/mjc
Jesse, your back feels better because moving around like that stretches it out. That's the only way to make it feel better (besides medication) stretch that thing. Google some back stratches and you'll feel a lot better. Also, if you have a heat pad, that will help too.
- Luke Stay
It's peanut butter jelly time!!! http://yfrog.com/0whedj
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Add some bananas and it's really good!
- Jesse Stay
this scares me.
- danielle sipple
....scary
- /Users/mjc
Wishing I knew a chiropractor right now. Don't they make these things better?
back still messed up?
- Allen Stern
Allen, yeah - sucks because today was when I was going to be doing my yard work before we head out East.
- Jesse Stay
east? well hope you feel better soon
- Allen Stern
Have you tried anything to relieve it? Ice, heat, lie on floor with knees up, etc.?
- Tom Landini
Tom, oh yeah - I've tried everything. Lying down is the only thing I can do right now - sucks.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse, basic stretching is always a good idea. As Tom said, heat and ice are helpful, and I would recommend some Advil or Ibuprofen of your choice. You can also roll up a bath towel and put it under your lower back, then try to "roll" your back over it. This simulates some of the movements in a good massage. It may get you some relief. Two tennis balls or something slightly larger can have the same effect as well.
- Rob Diana
Another effective therapy for relaxation of muscle spasms is the application of electrical muscle stimulation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...), you can check if your family doctor has the appropriate device in his practice (at least many here in Germany do). Last time I had an upper back muscle spasm it took only two sessions and I was symptom free.
- Vlado Handziski
One more thing: All of our iframe embeds (including search) support a css=URL parameter to enable custom style. We haven't documented it yet, but see http://friendfeed.com/buildin... for an example and howto, and http://www.building43.com/ to see it live.
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Amazing
- zsafwan
I was wondering how they did that! Thanks
- Frankie Warren
But how do I customize the title so it's not the long search string?
- Jesse Stay
We're going to fix that very soon Jesse.
- Paul Buchheit
Could that (improper instancing of by louisgray.com) be the cause of http://ff.im/4J6lp ?
- ianf ⌘
Thanks Paul - that will make me feel much better about keeping it there. :-) I've got some huge community improvements coming soon that I'm hoping to integrate FriendFeed with.
- Jesse Stay
I may be missing the howto, but developed my own way awhile back using object tag, and placed in a drupal block.
- LPH™ and his dog P™
via BuddyFeed
Freaking GENIUS.
- /home/jhuebel
Paul, first tried to embed in the post, but did not work out. Then I embedded the search in a sidebar widget, that worked: http://www.amsterdam20.nl - any tips how to make the embedding working in a regular WP 2.8 post? Or is this not possible b/c it is an iframe? TIA!
- Jeroen De Miranda
Ah this was what i was looking for.
- Burcu Dogan
Nice - very cool.
- Cliff Gerrish
Is there any chance of losing the scroll bar? I know you can manually increase the height but would really like this frame to automatically grow on my site. Or is this technically impossible atm? Either way, a very cool feature. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Paul.. thanks for the "undocumented update".. it's nice to have such open access to what's happening at FriendFeed. I'm used to the "Wall of Silence" from Google and THAT gets old and extremely frustrating fast.
- Chris Myles
Cool. I just discovered the embed flag yesterday. I like loading the feeds in the firefox sidebar.
- Peter Warnock
Kol, I think you are a little out of luck.. since an Iframe is just a "window" to another URL, the main page needs to define the size. Without it the browser would need to load every iframe page just to determine how to render the main one. However It would be nice to have an embedded option that allows the "N more comments" concept (more details here http://ff.im/4fGzH), it takes up...
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- Chris Myles
Chris, so the iframe is not the way forward? What alternatives could achieve this? I don't mind putting in some code to embed my FF posts properly (with a frame).
- Kol Tregaskes
Kol, I'm not sure where you got the impression I don't think Iframes are the way forward, I was addressing your issue of "losing the scrollbar". An Iframe is the only way to get "real time" updates.. you could always roll your own javascript, ff API , DOM based utility but it would only get you the content at the time of the API call. If the FF team thought http://ff.im/4fGzH was a good...
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- Chris Myles
So there is no other way to get real-time updates without an iframe? Once we can get rid of the scrollbar then I can use it on my site.
- Kol Tregaskes
FF can only update pages they own! BTW in its current form I think the benefits of an embedded FF post (or group etc) far outweigh any minor side effects of a scrollbar. I'd love to use friendfeed as my entire blog commenting system, I'm just waiting for a couple of things (http://ff.im/3TfED) to automate the process.
- Chris Myles
We would love to embed a private room on internal Deki Wiki. The last time I tried it still had the sidebar. I will try again to see if you have made it possible to do this.
- Christian Burns
via iPhone
How I Tweet: Just the FAQs - http://blog.guykawasaki.com/2009...
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"I use ghostwriters because I want to provide as many interesting links as possible" -- there's something about that statement that I just don't agree with. If you are going to have four people writing, then each one of them should use their own twitter account. I don't want interesting links in Twitter, use a blog for that, or a lifestreaming service that's not named "GuyKawasaki". I love the guy, but I unfollowed him the moment I learned about this a few months back.
- Jorge "JungleG" Escobar
Guy is simply bringing it up yet again because he isn't getting any buzz right now. Whenever there is no buzz, he opens up the ghost writers can of worms. Credibility is non-existent with that. No engagement, no accountability. That screams old world/old media broadcast w/o interaction.
- Sheryl
UFM works well. It's been perfect for me. I actually enjoyed engaging with Guy, but once I had to filter Guy to figure out what was what, the return on effort overcame the value. Guy and I don't agree on how we manage our networks and I believe at some point he'll recognize how he's diminished his own value to the rest of us.
- Ken Camp
He says: "I follow everyone for two reasons: first, common courtesy..." after just having said he doesn't read the timelines of people who follow him. It would be more accurate to say he auto-follows because it is the minimum requirement to maintain an audience he wants to broadcast to in a medium that masquerades as interactive and "social".
- Sprague D
I'd love to know what Guy's strategy is, what are the data behind this? I, too have filtered out what he's (they) are tweeting about -- but is there a bigger picture here? To me, it's not Guy (the guy) tweeting but a brand, a company version of it, not a person version...
- Mark Evans
Mark: Then he should brand it that way, clearly, concisely. To do otherwise is to be dishonest. You know the difference, I know the difference, but how many are fooled or don't know? I would like to know his strategy too. The way I see it, my time is valuable too. I shouldn't have to play guessing games simply to see a stream of unconsciousness. :)
- Sheryl
Sheryl: After reading his post I think he thinks it's one in the same. Guy's move may be an early sign of a bigger movement afoot toward leveraging (capitalizing on) personal branding as a business. I was a fly on the wall at dinner the other night listening to @chrissaad and SFAMA panelists discussing how to build a business around your name. We could soon see Guy LLC.
- Mark Evans
@Mark and I'm all for it. Look at how Stephen R. Covey did it 15 years ago. But what bugs me is using Twitter for it and naming the account "Guy Kawasaki"
- Jorge "JungleG" Escobar
"Personal branding" has been around since Jesus. What's new is having a medium that allows you to broadcast to large numbers of people (in some cases as many as you would get from a spot on a cable TV show) with zero cost, besides the minimal investment it takes to maintain the illusion of interaction and sociability.
- Sprague D
I don't get the point of ghostwriters in this kind of medium. His continuous link posting is just a manual StumbleUpon and doesn't add much of anything. Hell, I have a real job and I don't need a ghostwriter. Scoble, have you EVER considered hiring a ghostwriter to post links for you?
- Tyler Hurst
This creeps me out. During the first 10 minutes of Guy and Chris Anderson's talk at SXSW last March, I noticed Guy's Tweet stream was broadcasting, ahem, evangelizing brands. Ads. And he was talking about Free!!! What's up with that. Yuck.
- Mary Anne Davis
People get way too upset about Guy - it's as though everyone thinks they know better than Guy on something that works for him. Don't follow him if you don't agree with him - it's that simple! Seems like a waste of time to be criticizing his every move.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse - really? You suggest that we don't critique people that we disagree with? Ignorance is the answer?
- Tyler Hurst
Jesse your comment is ironic given that what we're discussing is the *impersonality* of the Guy Kawasaki Experience. ;-) Truly I couldn't give a fig about the actual person (who I'll never know from Adam, anyway).
- Sprague D
Tyler you can do what you want. Seems like a waste of time to me. His Tweets don't affect me so he can do what he wants as far as I care. He does bring a lot of traffic to those he links to though. And frankly I find many of the links interesting. Criticizing in a thread he'll never see doesn't fix anything. But hey, do what you want - there are no rules here.
- Jesse Stay
Anything COULD be a waste of time to anyone else, Jesse. I watch sports, which is a waste of time to some people. I also discuss best/worst practices of social media use. Aren't conversations the entire point of this?
- Tyler Hurst
Tyler, fine - I just don't see how it benefits anything or anyone. Keep doing it if you want though - that's just my own opinion. I'll ignore you from here on then. It's not something I want to see in my stream.
- Jesse Stay
You don't want conversations about how people use twitter? Didn't you respond to Louis Gray's post?
- Tyler Hurst
Tyler, no, I don't - it's up to each individual. Unless you're sharing how *you* use Twitter there is no benefit. There's a difference between how you're talking here and how I'm talking - I'm talking to the actual individual I'm criticizing, because I want to warn you it's cluttering up my stream. You're just talking behind his back about something that will never change and he'll never see. I still have yet to see how that is productive, or beneficial to those reading your discussion.
- Jesse Stay
Talking behind his back? I've chatted with him about it before. He uses it one way, I use it another. I'm not trying to get HIM to change, I'm simply using his actions as catalyst to foster discussion on what we could all do to improve the experience. Again, if you didn't want to talk about this, why did you join in the convo? You wanted to share your opinion, right?
- Tyler Hurst
I joined because I wanted to share that I think this type of convo is spammy in and of itself. I don't want it in my stream. It's not that I don't want to talk about it - it's that I don't want to see it.
- Jesse Stay
So you want us to know that you don't like what we're talking about and that you'd rather not hear from us (or just me, I suppose)? Spammy? Really? That's a stretch.
- Tyler Hurst
Tyler hmmm...I've heard Guy say the same response to what you guys are saying about him.
- Jesse Stay
Anyway, I'm hiding this conversation now. I've said all I need to say - carry on since you guys seem to have the time for it.
- Jesse Stay
While I don't agree with Kawasaki's tweeting strategy, I will note that he is not the first one to apply a personal name (in this case, his own) to a multi-person corporate enterprise. Hint: Abagail Van Buren, Ann Landers, Mickey Mouse, and Wendy Ward are not single entities. I think the reason that Kawasaki is treated differently is because there are prominent social media users that DO write everything personally (e.g. Robert Scoble).
- John E. Bredehoft
Interesting how Guy Kawasaki is the featured user on Jesse Stay's company website (SocialToo) right now.
- Tyler Hurst
John - YES. The barrier is gone for mass publishing now. I'm certainly not saying Guy Kawasaki should stop though, I just don't agree with it.
- Tyler Hurst
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