No he does, but I think it's also time you get some sl... Sleep is a waste of time for the unproductive. I don't think you've been unproductive lately get some sleep.
- Jimminy
I'm looking left. I'm looking right. Back. forth. back. forth. In the space between truth and fiction I am playing PONG.
- Micah Wittman
lol this is classic - and very brave of you to post ;)
- Chris Saad
Brave, indeed. The arched brow says everything. :)
- Mark Evans
We all try to show our best side to the outside world, particularly when it's with regard to business. But is it really disingenuous to show a happy face any more than it would be to show a scowl? Neither represents you or the collective us 100% of the time. Does this mean we need a chart with all our moods on it to greet potential clients? :) I do like the arched brow. hehe
- Sheryl
Sorry to say this, Louis, but I will attempt to run away if I see someone coming to me bearing that smile you have on the second photo. I'd be like, "Darnit, here's another salesman wanting to pressure me into buying some thingamajig again..." No offense, Louis. But even for marketing, I really think you can do without the oh-so-friendly smile :-)
- Pandu ● IT Optimizer
from fftogo
Many of us here on FF are following your "stealth" footsteps. The space is wide open and needs experienced and qualified people to increase value. Congrats again. I am definitely not surprised.
- Amani
Congratulations! I did notice this on LinkedIn but didn't know how big a change it was. Let us know how we can help - I'm sure *some* of us are good for some free stuff . . . for a while, anyway . . . ;-)
- MaryB, BrandingBroadOfFF
WHOO00oo00oOOOO YEEAAaaahhhHHH ~ Best of luck Louis G!
- sofarsoShawn
LMAO! Derrick stole my comment! *stealthily places resume on top of Derrick's*
- Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
Congrats and the career change (well sort of) Louis.
- Travis Koger
YAY! Congratulations Louis - awesome move!! I have the highest confidence in you and firmly believe you made the right choice here. You really know your stuff. I've always been incredibly impressed with your broad and also deep knowledge across a wide spectrum of technology and media related topics, plus you have a great business savvy to balance it all out. You'll do great! By the way,...
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- Susan Beebe
""We are ecstatic," said Anthony Colaprete, LCROSS project scientist and principal investigator at NASA's Ames Research Center in Moffett Field, Calif. "Multiple lines of evidence show water was present in both the high angle vapor plume and the ejecta curtain created by the LCROSS Centaur impact. The concentration and distribution of water and other substances requires further analysis, but it is safe to say Cabeus holds water.""
- Bruce Lewis
from Bookmarklet
And yes, I admit I have a total fear of flights - developed later in life oddly (considering I've flown all around the world throughout my life)
- Jesse Stay
Somehow it seems the iPhone will always win on hardware. You know, unless they make a Droid phone brown and able to squirt songs to other Droid phones.
- Alex Bourt
Louis or Robert needs to say something controversial, though, to get us started. Any thoughts on that rumor that Twitter 2 is going to totally smoke Facebook 2?
- Christopher Galtenberg
Twitter Relatime Defrag is up now. Robert mostly showed the busy stream. Talk is mostly on lists.
- Louis Gray
interesting. I wonder what his 'best of the day' was....
- WorldofHiglet
Getting traffic on FriendFeed is easy - just declare it's dead
- Jesse Stay
how often you all see posts with this much (7-8) comments? miss old friendfeed, here even the real time is done to death, discussions earlier were real time ( yeah the likes and commenting system is the best here) but now....:(
- ffcode
yeah it is dead to me but i just can't leave it :)
- ffcode
I showed it off to make a point that the world is a river of information now.
- Robert Scoble
To be fair, the link under "irony" is to a tweet pointing out that Facebook is a walled garden, not a complaint about its review process.
- Joel Webber
My point is that his irony is based on the tweet's saying that Facebook is hypocritical, which is wrong on two counts: First, because comparing an arbitrary and obtuse app review process to a supposed walled garden (debatable in itself) is apples to oranges. A fairer comparison of Apple's and Facebook's app review processes supports Joe's point and diminishes Gruber's. Second, because...
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- Kevin Fox
Fair enough. I guess I was being generous in seeing potential irony, in the fact that both practices (Hewitt's responsibility or lack thereof notwithstanding) are unfortunate for developers and users alike. But I do agree that it's a bit of a stretch.
- Joel Webber
I hate the whole Facebook/Walled Garden myth. If you're going to start calling Facebook a walled garden it's time to start calling Twitter the same.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse, Twitter is about as open as it gets. Facebook, though taking baby steps, is still very closed and controlling from a user perspective. That said, yes the irony is misplaced, though Apple (largely due to its process) hasn't had the app problems that Facebook has (rampant privacy leaks, game ad scams, etc.)
- LogEx
LogEx have you compared Facebook's TOS to Twitter's? With Facebook my data goes with me when I leave - there's nothing alluding to that in Twitter's TOS.
- Jesse Stay
Open as it gets, LogEx? I guess it's all a matter of perspective. Try asking Twitter how you go about retrieving all public tweets...
- Ken Sheppardson
@Jesse: I'd hardly call the idea of Facebook-as-walled-garden a myth. The TOS, ostensibly for privacy reasons, make it nearly impossible to get your own data out in any kind of automated way, which makes it largely irrelevant to say you "own your data". If Twitter's TOS are controlling as well, then so be it -- I care less, because I don't really use it.
- Joel Webber
To me, a "walled garden" is something that rejects interoperating with the web. Neither twitter or facebook do that, but Apple does (and not just with the AppStore)
- Nick Lothian
Joel, my point is Facebook is just as open as Twitter, if not more.
- Jesse Stay
Twitter has some issues, to be sure (like forever locking up your user name, phone number, and/or email address when you delete). Not sure about the API, but I have all of my tweets in RSS. But it's a much simpler service... easy sign-up, tweets in, tweets out. I'd need a large separate post to itemize all of my walled-garden beefs with Facebook.
- LogEx
Ok, how about a roach motel then? Your data checks in, but it never checks out?
- Joel Webber
Joel, except that you can exterminate the roaches with Facebook (on your own profile). You can't with Twitter - they remain forever.
- Jesse Stay
Also, that all becomes an entirely different story when you talk about Facebook Connect, in which the data starts with you and stays with you
- Jesse Stay
With Facebook Connect doesn't the data still reside on Facebook's servers? Can I visit a page on FB which will export all of my personal information in some format (CSV, FOAF/XFN, etc?) Otherwise, it's still a roach motel.
- Ray Cromwell
Ray, Facebook supports the activitystrea.ms standard - is that what you're talking about? With Facebook Connect only the data you put into it goes onto Facebook's servers, and if any of your users delete their Facebook account their data is removed (minus anything that has already populated on a friend's profile), according to the Facebook TOS. Also, Apps can't store data about users for more than 24 hours, but that doesn't stop an app from enabling a user to export their own data.
- Jesse Stay
Also see Digg's implementation of Facebook Connect - every Facebook friend that logs in through Facebook on Digg automatically gets added as a friend on Digg - full export of Social Graph data.
- Jesse Stay
That FOAF tool doesn't seem to work and I wonder if it can produce email addresses (or atleast proxied addresses) I don't consider the data liberated unless I could use it to mirror my whole social graph onto a competing product, the way Facebook is harvesting Orkut customers through the Orkut Export Tool.
- Ray Cromwell
Ray, I don't know of anything stopping Twitter or MySpace or Orkut from leveraging Facebook Connect to import friends that log in through Facebook on those sites.. I may be wrong though and maybe they've tried and have been blocked. I just haven't heard of it. Have you heard to the contrary? The technology's there if those sites want to try and use it.
- Jesse Stay
Ray, FriendFeed even did that before they were bought by Facebook.
- Jesse Stay
Nick, that's because Plaxo wasn't using the Facebook Platform to do that. They were scraping the site. Twitter will blacklist you too if you do that.
- Jesse Stay
It should be noted that McCrea and Smarr of Plaxo are also now working with Facebook on the Activity Streams standard.
- Jesse Stay
Ray, it's also important to note that 'your whole social graph' isn't actually yours. Your friends? Sure. Their friends? It depends on what they choose to reveal. Privacy is pretty important and just because you friend someone and they accept your friendship doesn't mean you automatically get to see all their friends if they choose to keep that private.
- Kevin Fox
@Jesse - yeah, but you can't just extract "your" data using the platform. You are only allowed to store it for 24 hours. As Kevin alluded, there are good reasons why "your" data isn't really yours, but anyway - it's misleading to say FB provides a way to export it. To quote "You must not store or cache any data you receive from us for more than 24 hours unless doing so is permitted by the offline exception, or that data is explicitly designated as Storable Data." http://developers.facebook.com/policy...
- Nick Lothian
Nick, also keep in mind that "You must not store or cache any data you receive from us for more than 24 hours unless doing so is permitted by the offline exception, or that data is explicitly designated as Storable Data." is for developers. That wording is not targeted towards users. I respect that - I don't want any 3rd-party developer holding my data indefinitely either.
- Jesse Stay
You don't want a 3rd-party developer to be able to be able to get data from Facebook (the messages you've sent, for example) and do something with it on your behalf? How is that different from giving said developer access to your mailbox via imap? We do that every day with mail readers. It seems to me that it's not really "my" data unless I can use tools to access it. Am I missing something here, or are all of my messages, status updates, comments, photos, and so forth inaccessible to automated tools?
- Joel Webber
@Joel - was that to me? I think that data should be accessible. But I think there are are some pretty good reasons why your social graph - especially the details of your contacts - shouldn't be ported from one website/application to another. http://nicklothian.com/blog...
- Nick Lothian
I think you could make an argument for the case of accessing friend-of-friend information, but for contact information (direct child nodes of my graph node), I don't see how this case differs from the traditional address book or rolodex app. I can port contacts between email clients already, share them via Bluetooth profiles, vCard, syncML, etc. If you don't want private contact details...
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- Ray Cromwell
@Nick: Sorry I wasn't being clear. I was really referring to Jesse's assertion that he doesn't want 3rd-party developers to have access to his data. And I agree that FOAF contact info should be kept private (isn't it already?) for the reasons you mention. I just want to be able to have automated access to the data I enter or upload, and to messages, comments, and such directed by...
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- Joel Webber
Joel, my thoughts exactly. What we have with social graphs today is a step back from what you had with ACAP/IMAP/LDAP/vCard/SyncML/etc. The original IETF protocols were designed with both federation/distributivity/client-independence and security in mind (after all, corporations often run servers supporting these protocols). We have lost this on today's web, see my screed:...
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- Ray Cromwell
"About 3 p.m. a low-flying pelican distracted him as he traveled north on Interstate 45 just south of the hurricane levee near Omega Bay. The man jerked the wheel, dropped his cell phone, and the car’s front tire left the frontage road and entered a muddy patch, which foiled his attempt to maneuver away from the lagoon."
- Glen Campbell, B.A.
from Bookmarklet
Yes, that's a Bugatti Veyron. $2 million or thereabouts.
- Glen Campbell, B.A.
I've canoed in those waters - they're full of mud, and in some spots if you try to stand up in the mud you can very easily get stuck waste deep in the mud below the water. That's where I learned to canoe in Boy Scouts growing up.
- Jesse Stay
:/ Wondering if there's an exotics curse, so many get totalled
- Mo Kargas
I think in many cases it's a matter of the cars being much better cars than their drivers are drivers, Mo.
- Ken Sheppardson
Thanks Jimminy, have you gained weight?
- ashish
from iPhone
LOL @ (Outsanity) Ashish, no, but I haven't lost anymore either.
- Jimminy
Where'd you go? Ahh, caught up, self discovery and introspection excellent choice as librarian. I suspect that role will evolve with the growing deluge of digital data. You may be well poised to take up the reigns by starting your own digital collection of free ebooks cataloged a way that's easy for people to find. I tried doing this a while back with a squidoo lens:http://www.squidoo.com/e-BookL... but moved on.
- Mark Essel
I went to be with my Aunt while she was having surgery, crazy old bat was up and running around 2 days after the surgery, and they wanted her to take an 8 week leave because most patients don't even get out of bed for 4-6 weeks.
- Jimminy
oh! funny story about those (well. I think it's funny) I was at a convenience store this summer - when I got to the cash, I spotted them at my shins on the shelf. when the cashier asked if there'd be anything else, I got all smug and said (as I bent down to pick something up) "A pack of smokes" without missing a beat, the cashier said "ID, please"
- Nathalie, Dreamer of FF