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Embracing REST with mind, body and soul | Plataforma Blog - http://blog.plataformatec.com.br/2009...
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mapspread : Create, edit and share maps within minutes - http://mapspread.com/
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dear AT&T + Apple: Fuck You. iPhone dropped call *5* goddamn times driving 280/101. tell me why I pay $300/mo 4 such shitty svc? #irate
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when I see a twitter directory that relies on users adding themselves instead of automatically indexing people, I go away
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In the next hour or so I will pass 37,000 subscribers. friendfeed's growth is accelerating. It is about time to look for a new shiny object. The celebrities will be here soon.
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lol
- Capn' One Eye - adrift
I think 1,000 have followed me this week alone. It's amazing to watch the early adopters catch on to what Louis Gray showed me more than a year ago.
- Robert Scoble
lol....well that proves Robert is the one and only cutting-edge celebrity we all gotta follow! 37k subs on ff is gr8. and i gotta work like a dog to reach even 1k.
- Freddie Benjamin
ugh :)
- Stefanie Hahn
oh please don't say that. oh no. I just got here.
- Rick Fisher
Rick: you're safe for another month or maybe two. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Shhhhh!
- Jeff Betts
I wish I had time to figure out friend feed! I'm computer savvy and this one has me stumped! Send me a basic video please! I've got some of the basics down, but the community aspect and how to communicate has me stumped...other than when you send me here from twitter.
- Hummie
Ryan: I have high resolution screens and I type fast. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Isn't that just like a man? Gets your heart all a flutter and then he moves on.
- Sharon McPherson
Hummie: I showed Jimmy Wales friendfeed on Saturday night: http://www.ustream.tv/recorde... -- that might help you (after the first couple of minutes).
- Robert Scoble
No one mention friendfeed to the 'normals'.
- Ryan Whitwam
Have you studied how much conversation celebrities actually have? They might find FF needing more personal maintenance than they want to.
- Yann Ropars
Don't ask me about shiny new stuff. My web development is in a 50-year-old language and its most exciting features relate to a 10-year-old data format.
- Bruce Lewis
Ryan Whitwam: too late. Google is indexing friendfeed posts higher than Tweets.
- Robert Scoble
for the love of all that is geek, no one RT this to K-utcher or O-prah.
- Alachia
Hopefully, friendfeed will have implemented real-time filters before Oprah comes here, also to filter massive amounts of comments coming in by "likes" and algorithms on the "likes" so selections among 1000s of chatters are filtered in real-time to the front for each user while the rest of the conversations are hidden in a personalized way based on their own likes and friends
- Charbax
Alachia: Kutcher came to a TechCrunch party last year. He's the real deal. Oprah? Um, no.
- Robert Scoble
Why would a real geek play the numbers game then?
- Alachia
Someone should create a Techmeme for celebrities... a tool that search and aggregate social media sphere txt and rich media into one stream...
- Yann Ropars
Thanks..I'm watching the link now...I see Friend Feed has changed since I was here last.
- Hummie
Anyway, I know you weren't totally serious posting this. But I do think you could more fully explore the toys you're already playing with. Spend some time on that Site Integration page. You know which one I mean.
- Bruce Lewis
Look for the next shiny object. We'll be here when you get back. :)
- Louis Gray
Louis: if you haven't found a new shiny object yet, it's safe to stay here for a couple more months. :-)
- Robert Scoble
:) who will be the King ff FF, Ashton? or do we graduate to more distinguished folks? sanjaya perhaps
- Samer Forzley
Okay, see...I cannot figure out where the search is that you are referring to!
- Hummie
At least you can "hide" the celebrities in FF. Ooo look, something shiny over there!
- Brian
+1 Louis :-D
- Bruce Lewis
Hummie: The search bar is at the top of the page. Search for a term you're interested in, and on the resulting page you'll notice a red bar at the top with a link "click here to save". Click the link and you can customize and save that search.
- FFing Enigma
Oh geez...HOW did I miss that search box...if it were a bug, it would have bit me! Thanks...going to test the save a search now. If I can figure this place out, I'll be sure to do a video on how to use it on my blog...cause that's what I do...and people expect me to do!
- Hummie
Okay, someone tell me how I make a post on Friendfeed without having one import from another application (twitter, Flickr, etc).
- Hummie
=) It takes a bit of time to get everything (especially now with so many options). There's a group specifically for cool searches you can save, give me a moment and I'll get you a link. Also, there's a FF for Beginners group that might be helpful. Again, just a moment and I'll have you a link. As for how to post: see the text box underneath the search box? Post there.
- FFing Enigma
I think you could co-exist if you really wanted to but then again I totally understand why you're already thinking about leaving FF.
- John Blanton
from twhirl
I think you could co-exist if you really wanted to but then again I totally understand why you're already thinking about leaving FF. If you left where would you go?
- John Blanton
from twhirl
FF for Beginners group http://friendfeed.com/friendf... FF Saved Searches group http://friendfeed.com/ffss And Hammie, we're usually a pretty friendly bunch. Let us know if you have any questions =)
- FFing Enigma
Thanks for your help, Tina. I think the new interface since I was here last is a big improvement. It's easier to figure out than it was before.
- Hummie
No problem, Hummie =) The new interface is intriguing: people who were really active on FF before started out disliking it (but most have grown accustomed to it). People who didn't connect with FF before really seem to like it. Not sure what that says about the differences in the two user types...
- FFing Enigma
I can recommend to open the users reg. to other sites as well ,for example it can be great to let other sites to get for their users an automatic registration here in FF
- Johni Fisher
Johni, FF has pretty much implemented exactly that. People can log in with their Twitter, Facebook, or Google IDs now.
- FFing Enigma
Yes thats right but lets say that we have an online newspaper that would like to create users here to his users and to have activity ....in my opinion with this pos we can get here much more than just the tech users
- Johni Fisher
I am enjoying friendfeed rightnow since it is safe from undue publicity.
- Ashish
Ashish: that will only last a few more weeks, given the growth rate here.
- Robert Scoble
will this result in more maintanence time = offline time?
- Ashish
:-)) u r wrong Robert as long that you control the info that u can get u will keep the fun
- Johni Fisher
I suspect the "early adopters" - "celebrities" timeline is an oversimplification. It's quite possible that a year from now, Twitter will have moved from its "Oprah" stage to a post-Oprah stage, which is more accurately reflected by the timeline "early adopters" - "celebrities" - "everybody else." Think of cell phones as an example. There was a period when celebrities and yuppies...
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- John E. Bredehoft
they are already here, I noticed P Diddy and a Khardasian in my friendfeed followers the other day.
- Christi
John: sorry, Twitter won't get "everyone else." They already are on facebook.
- Robert Scoble
its past my bedtime.. I will have to read about it tomorrow.. g'nite :o)
- David Gross
I've passed two kidney stones, but 37,000 friendfreed subscribers? That sounds really painful.
- Ranger Craig
Plurk. The celebrities will never use Plurk. Of course, there are good reasons for that.
- Ken Wallich
I'll keep an eye on the list of suggested users. As long as you are on top, I think this is still a safe Geekdome...(how many users does FF claim?)
- Antonella Stellacci
NO!!!! AGHH!!!!
- Kim Landwehr
Kim: I passed 37,000 a while ago. The growth here is headed up and I got there a LOT faster than I did on Twitter.
- Robert Scoble
But aren't most of your FF subscribers also Twitter followers? Add that you're the first face new FF see when they join :)
- Antonella Stellacci
Seriously, though not sure celebrities will want to be on Friendfeed, unless there interested in good conversation, its not a megaphone like Twitter is, which is all the a lot of celebrities want.
- Kim Landwehr
Antonella: most of my Twitter followers were readers of my blog, too. So? That's how I separate out the real people from the bots. The bots stick with what I did yesterday. The real people follow me to the new shiny object when I find one.
- Robert Scoble
Kim: celebrities go where the people are. Just wait.
- Robert Scoble
I fear that this friend feed, twitter followers race is becoming too much for the slightly more tech savvy but still average user to keep up with. Someone looking for a place to connect on multiple topics but doesn't have a blog, start -up or celebrity status (of any kind) to warrant any following other than sheer wit to compete with. I work in hi-tech and love love LOVE all things web...
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- Cyndi Brigham
Robert, they go where the most people go. It'll be a LONG time before they show up here.
- Kyle Sellers
Kyle: wrong. The celebrities are already starting to show up here.
- Robert Scoble
Cyndi: do you know of a group like this on Twitter: http://friendfeed.com/persian...
- Robert Scoble
Filter them out.
- John
The celebs won't know what to do on ff
- Dennis Jackson
Agreed, but I guess that the migration from readers of a blog to Twitter users was slower than Twitter-> Friendfeed which might explain the different timeframe. The next shiny is more than welcome...
- Antonella Stellacci
Thanks Robert, based on this, I think that for what I'm looking for, Friend Feed may be more the route than Twitter...The link you sent was amazing. I don't know that I'd find that on Twitter. Appreciate the response!
- Cyndi Brigham
my friend feed has exploded this week, I think it's a much better listening device
- Jessica Wilzig Gottlieb
James: Kim Kardashian: http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
- Robert Scoble
James: Gavin Newsom, who is running for California Governor: http://friendfeed.com/GavinNe...
- Robert Scoble
Jimmy Fallon was rumored to be on here, but I can't find him.
- Robert Scoble
Do you think in a year or so, FriendFeed could take over the space from Twitter, and that Twitter will be sort of the "Myspace" or do you think they will both thrive together, sort of need each other?
- Stephen Pickering
Stephen: I don't see friendfeed taking over from Twitter in next year. I see friendfeed going in a different direction. The money is in search, so friendfeed needs to be a massively better search engine. We're seeing the groundwork for that now, but it'll take a year to make it obvious to everyone.
- Robert Scoble
so abandon ship on Twitter everyone.
- Brad Jackson
re Jimmy Fallon: this one? http://friendfeed.com/jimmyfa... ( couldn't find thru search but just writing the vanity URL with the name)
- Antonella Stellacci
Antonella: heh, I didn't think of just typing in the URL. Yeah, that looks like him. Mostly a clone of his Tweets though.
- Robert Scoble
FriendFeed WAY more useful no? It's not even close....
- j sven
That makes me too late... I didn't like how Friend Feed was before. Now I don't like how Twitter is and I'm falling in luv/lust with FriendFeed. .. but if the celebs invade, and the "like-ables" like you leave... oh whoa... where shall I go?
- Arleen Boyd
Arleen: don't worry, we'll have plenty of time to figure that out. We've already been sending Louis Gray on scouting trips to make sure we have somewhere to go. :-)
- Robert Scoble
08:00 BST you made it! 37,045 subscribers. Congrats :)
- Anita Hunt
More shiny objects Robert? at least stay until this one gets tarnished ;-)
- Rachel Clarke
Rachel: actually, wait until we get skinning here. Then it'll seem brand new for quite a while. I'm not leaving, just having some fun!
- Robert Scoble
Hummie I'm with you on this. When I first came here I very quickly walked away again, I just couldn't figure it out. I had to get help from my son. There's a lesson there for all of us by the way. And it's possible this "Oh Christ now what do I do?" initial impression is keeping the RiffRaff out. Unlike that other service over there ----> which is real easy to understand.
- Gilbert Harding
Is there a list of the most subscribed to people on friendfeed? I'm guessing RObert has to be the most subscribed t0, non-friendfeed employee?
- Jim Connolly
Jim: yes, it's at http://www.ffholic.com/Users...
- Robert Scoble
Thanks Robert!
- Jim Connolly
Gah, I DO NOT want that to happen! I finally got rid of twitter (except for using it with friendfeed) and don't want to have to find something else. Maybe I should start my own social network... *ponders that thought for a second* Nah, too much work.
- MλTT
Robert - I knew you would be top of the pile! I'm in 350th place apparently - w00t!!
- Jim Connolly
Matt: (that really did make me laugh out loud!!)
- Jim Connolly
I'm not sure the celebs with come to friendfeed. At least not in the same way they have with twitter. Twitter is a broadcast medium to most celebs. They want to tell the world what they are doing and build their brand. They have no interest in what their followers are doing. FF appears to be more of a community where discussion and sharing can take place. (i know you know this but just wanted to add my 2cents)
- Jamie Vidamour
@Jamie Apparently not everyone got that memo ;-) http://friendfeed.com/iamdiddy & http://friendfeed.com/kimkard...
- Gordon Saunders
I think FriendFeed is 'just' complex enough to scare the crap out of the celebs. Look at the trouble Oprah had with something as easy to use as Twitter! That said, pretty soon most celebs will have social media companies doing this for them.
- Jim Connolly
<The celebrities will be here soon> Yup .
- JimmyJet
"That said, pretty soon most celebs will have social media companies doing this for them" Jim that sounds like a promising business plan.
- Gilbert Harding
My fear exactly. In fact I wonder if following the latest social network trend will itself become the mainstream media's new news trend. I do believe tech and celebs can live in harmony on the same broadcast platform, but it depends greatly on the management of that platform. Twitter management handled this badly. Recommendations should be based on content, not the number of followers...
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- Keith Barrett
Do you have ghosts like Guy Kawasaki ? How you manage to control all of the streams! 90K+ on twitter, 30K+ from FF.. Amazing.. Really.. I jelaous.
- Jacque
Jacque: I do all my own social media work. No ghosts. I just do what I can!
- Robert Scoble
I wonder what the next new shiny object will be, any guesses or predictions?
- Sally Church
"Next new shiny object"...which is?
- Luciano
Luciano: Louis Gray hasn't figured that out yet, so we have at least six months.
- Robert Scoble
I understand having many subscribers but how do you make sense of the flood of all those you subscribe to?
- Steve Levin
Steve - I'm pretty sure Robert did a video a while ago - showing what his feed looked like and how he handled it.
- Jim Connolly
we have some shiny tin cans and some wire... so ...
- Pretty Monkey Studio
Actually, Pretty Monkey Studio just gave me a great idea: Create my own social network made out of strings and tin cans that spans across the whole world so that everyone can be connected by voice, rather than text... Wait! That may have a few problems *thinks about the repercussions of creating a social network where people put a tin can to their ear while millions of voices are piped (strung?) in to it*
- MλTT
matt: its easy.. you will have a tin can for each person you are connected to. the others get a lid. and for group chats you just need more people that are sitting next to you in the treehouse :)
- Pretty Monkey Studio
Pretty Monkey: Dibs on that idea! I'm developing a prototype and getting a patent tomorrow :P
- MλTT
just come over to our treehouse and we'll hook you up :D we even have pink tin cans !!
- Pretty Monkey Studio
Nooooo!!! It's MY idea, Pretty Monkey! If this kicks off, you aren't getting any of the profits :P
- MλTT
sry we already have the patent ;) but you could try triangle shaped yellow tin cans for your prototype. Banana shapes are taken too
- Pretty Monkey Studio
Not fair :'( Robert, can you make Pretty Monkey Studio hand over the patent?
- MλTT
Matt: sure, but I charge $400 an hour for playing a lawyer and this will take at least 40 hours of my work and you're still not guaranteed that Pretty Monkey Studio will hand it over. Want to proceed? ;-)
- Robert Scoble
I wonder what that point is. When did it start on Twitter?
- Lester Greenberg
Robert: Hmmm, put a decimal point after the 4 and I'm in.
- MλTT
I took several months off from friendfeed to concentrate on my facebook presence. Now that I'm back I can't believe all the changes and growth here. 2008 was the year of facebook, 2009 is the year of twitter, could 2010 be the year of friendfeed?
- Jonathan.Rivera
pfff you guys are only after money. just come over to the treehouse, you'll get a tin can fro free, we can play some blackjack and spin the bottle and have a good time without patents, twithits or the likes and you can explain friendfeed to us :D
- Pretty Monkey Studio
Well, when you're saving to buy your first iPhone, money has a big impact on your actions.
- MλTT
you're a social media creature Scoble :)
- Ahmet Alp Balkan
Nooooooooo, say it isn't so....
- MoTO Bott
So are companies going to take a stand and disallow celebrities to join services and ruin them or should they change the terms to the we won't reject people based on sex, race, or fame.
- Eric Fisher
Eric: friendfeed doesn't need to do that. They just need to make sure that we remain in control of our viewport and that they minimize the kinds of games humans like to play (collecting followers and gaming systems to see if we can move up a list, etc).
- Robert Scoble
Robert, do you think the next "shiny object" will be a mobile one? Not a device, but a mobile service. Something that works great on all platforms, iPhone, Android, Win, Nokia, etc.
- Mike Lewis
I knew it was always just about the latest shiny object! Now I have proof...
- Andrew Deal
Mike... I hope robert says yes.... that is what I always am pushing @cellecast. ... we got 80% more to develop though, and need community help.
- Andrew Deal
What do you think the effect will be on Friendfeed??
- 77Agency
Mike: if something works great on all mobile platforms it isn't actually great. You've got to optimize for each one, at least in today's world.
- Robert Scoble
Just wait til oprah gets here. :)
- Sami Jones
from Nambu
My guess is that Oprah will be #1 on Twitter in a month or two. She has over a million followers in 28 days without really trying. Aplusk may have more but he also has tweeted more than 40x as much. Look out Scoble, Ashton will probably run here once Oprah takes his Twitter crown.
- Garin Kilpatrick
David Pogue - A Look at Google’s First Phone - NYTimes.com - http://www.nytimes.com/2008...
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"The Android software looks, feels and works a lot like the iPhone’s. Not as consistent or as attractive, but smartly designed and, for version 1.0, surprisingly complete. In any case, it’s polished enough to give Windows Mobile an inferiority complex the size of Australia; let’s hope Microsoft has a good therapist."
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
The second half of the article starts laying on the hurt, however.
- Marko Bon
I got to play with it and I must say, it made me want to forsake my iPhone. I miss buttons.
- April Buchheit
Freeman Dyson on Global Warming 1of2 Bogus Climate Models - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Dyson: we haven't done enough basic measurement to understand what is going on with CO2. It's premature to trust computer models based on our current understanding.
- Sanjeev Singh
only 7mins, btw
- Sanjeev Singh
For those of us who don't have the patience for videos, I posted a nice long article on my feed.
- Jim Norris
If you watch one video today, this is the one to watch - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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halfway through and rotflmao ...
- Dan Haley
Is this from the You Suck at Photoshop guys?
- Vince DeGeorge
donnie is back today, maybe the competition made him show up again
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
That was a good use of ten minutes. I'm smiling again.
- Russellreno
Ok, after watching the new YSAP - This is much much better - flavor of the week to be sure.
- Vince DeGeorge
I'm crying. The details in this were just great. I don't work in IT but I know this is what people must put you folks through...
- Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
That's hilarious!
- fbrunel
that's brilliant. and i'm about ti run out of battery power here, and I won't bookmark, adn I'll probably 4get about these guys 4eva. what a shame!!!
- john conroy
You mean he rebooted the webserver without submitting a Change Request Application with work procedure and rollback steps to the Change Advisory Board for review at their next weekly meeting? ;-)
- Stuart Woodward
amusing.."how many times did u reboot?" ...
- Jaimini
from Alert Thingy
I love the part where he deletes all his files and the guy thanks him for putting his desktop back the way it was.
- Dave Winer
LOL you can't arrange Icons by Penis
- Chris Saad
from twhirl
He just kept shooting him in the crotch over and over and over LOL.....
- Avery Tingle
this is hilarious!
- Michael Stearne
from twhirl
Yeah, who hasn't known this IT guy? Too darn funny.
- Jim Kukral
and so absolutely true
- Jeff Evans
"This is going right onto Boing Boing." Hilarious!
- Adam
On the Fedora installation, why is the guy running as root?
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
nice
- Anthony
Arggggg!
- bill giltner
yup
- Marc Canter
:)) I was getting very frustrated with FF's best of the day page, showing mostly meta-links about FF itself all the time. And then this. Once in a while, there is one single link that makes all these page loads worth it :)
- Yaniv Golan
Did this win some kind of award?
- Dave Winer
That made my day
- Greg Goodwin
that video kills! cant wait to show the rest of the techs at work
- Mark Schulz
LMAO for most of the 10 min. Will fwd to several IT peeps I know...and maybe a few peeps at Twitter. Wonder if they'll think it's funny.
- Cathryn Hrudicka
Excellent....
- David W
makes me want to rearrange my desktop more creatively
- Pete D
that was hilarious. wow!
- David Adam
Rofl that's a ton of likes! guess I gotta!
- Frankie Warren
LOL, really great ! That's why my website's so slow :))
- Heimana
lol. too funny
- Alexander Marktl
Way too realistic. :-)
- Doug Kaye
you can't arrange by penis
- Tyler Gillies
excellent. thanks for the post Dave.
- Kevin Doohan
STUPID WEB DUDE. he should have asked the sales guy to check if the website is up on other computers or in a different department.
- Hanan Cohen
So funny, I truly have not laughed so much in such a long time. tyvm :)
- David Smith
wow!! So unreal!! And I now know what happens with all the network mgmt software I develop!
- Shivanand Velmurugan
"Maybe that's not what I meant."
- Kawika Holbrook
The realism of this thing is just awe-inspiring. That techie behave pretty much like any techie I've ever encountered who's been asked to do a stupid task. And the sales dude is lethally real too. This is Dilbert meets The Office on steroids. Thanks for the link.
- Roy Blumenthal
from twhirl
A Classic
- Ken
Typical. Mozilla tries to set a world record helping ALL of us have a choice when it comes down to the web browser. And when they hare having trouble keeping up the pace the Elite screams "FAIL"? I don't think the elite appreciates enough what Mozilla has brought us! I say Firefox is the best!!!!!!!
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I didn't scream FAIL. I just said it was down. Anyway, if you're going to have a contest and you can't keep up with the load that's both good (contest is going well) and notable (cause you didn't have enough server capacity or whatever to keep it all up).
- Robert Scoble
think about a world without Mozilla Firefox. Think about a world dominated by Internet Explorer. Think about closed instead of open. Who are we to judge them right now? They are doing a hell lot of more to make the Internet a better place than all these loudmouths out here!
- Alexander van Elsas
Alexander: the loudmouths bring hype. Hype brings new users. It's all good.
- Robert Scoble
Well I wasn't referring to you Robert ;-) But it is so typical. I love the browser and the dudes that are creating it together. If there isn't enough server capacity I can only hope it is because no one has ever even remotely tried to create such a shitload of downloads ;-)
- Alexander van Elsas
Well said.
- Russellreno
That's true Robert.
- Alexander van Elsas
It's really easy to judge from the sideline, while at the same time MG Siegler and a few more are HAPPILY running their FF browser every day, thanking god and anyone else on their knees they don't have to use IE. I love choice, and choice is what Mozilla has brought us
- Alexander van Elsas
well said, this wasn't planned well, but this is nothing like creating such a great web browser.
- Hassan Ibraheem
I don't understand why nobody has put FF3 Release up on Bittorrent somewhere. I guess cuz it would affect the world record.
- Rah-PM 2012
I'd like to think of a world where people think in terms of "usability" and "meets demand" than terms like "free" or "open." If I can't save the world, princess, cheerleader, and the internet from the evil clutches of Lex Luthor, Ganon, Sylar, and Microsoft because I can't download your stupid software (you know the one you keep telling me is better than sliced bread?), it's not my fault, it's yours. Make your stuff work (that includes your delivery mechanism), then worry about saving us from evil.
- Mark Trapp
@Alexander - completely agree that FF3 is the best browser out there - but if somebody tries to very publicly break a world record and their infrastructure can't handle it - then that's newsworthy (at least in our small tech world) - FAIL is just the meme of the day to go with it
- Frederic
What's ironic Mark, is that Microsoft would be able to handle day 1 downloads better than this. People are quick to defend what they like, even if what they like is failing. :) The truth hurts.
- Bwana ☠
I'm thinking there is a whole army of volunteers trying to to their best, while we sit back and have a laugh. Sorry guys, I'm not with you on this one. Sure they "might" have done a better job. But it is their world record attitude that got us Firefox. We should appreciate that a bit more.
- Alexander van Elsas
In the same breath we're calling fail, we're advocating and spreading the word to go get it. It's not as black and white as you may think.
- Bwana ☠
Mozilla isn't some small, poor open source project, it's a very wealthy company with an army of employees. If Mozilla blew Firefox 1's download day, I wouldn't have criticized them. Today they are a big company, making more profits than most Silicon Valley-startups combined. One can expect more professionality than that. So yes, we know where we would be without Firefox, but that's no excuse for poor management. (I expect high uptime from Google, too, even though the world would be worse without them.)
- sebmos
I happily scream FAIL. i'm forgiving to startups, but if a company like mozilla purposefully sets out to have everyone download their software at the same exact time to get a record that doesn't exists and its crashes their servers, that is a FAIL. -- and for the record, I don't use FF everyday. I prefer Camino, also made by Mozilla.
- MG Siegler
@Alexander van Elsas I don't think any of us fail to appreciate the value the that Firefox has brought the world. But look, they wanted to set a world record and they couldn't handle their own success. MG is pointing that out. I think you're seeing bogeymen where there are none. Also, FF has been nearly unusable on my Mac (and many other Macs) for years. Yeah, Camino, like what MG said.
- Eric Eldon
Eric, we all know stories of athletes preparing years for the Olympic games only to fail during the trials, or even teh finals. Who are we to say FAIL. They know that already. All we can do is admire the incredible effort they put into it
- Alexander van Elsas
Alexander, I'm a reporter so it's not my role to admire everyone who tries anything -- although I also think the human spirit is a great thing. My goal is to be honest with our readers about what's actually happening in the world. As we're also a blog, we include opinions. MG and I happen to be underwhelmed by Firefox's performance. I don't think we're doing anything wrong here by being critical.
- Eric Eldon
Eric, being a reporter is fin, being critical as a reporter is fine too. I just happen to have a different opinion on this. I think Mozilla has done something no one has done before. They have successfully melted down their servers because so many people in the world want to have that browser (I hope so!). The execution might not be the best (who knows though how much traffic they are getting), but I like it ;-)
- Alexander van Elsas
Yeah, I definitely see what you're saying. I'm happy for them, too, in that sense.
- Eric Eldon
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