Ross and Dan made this video to illustrate the advanced technology we use behind the scenes at FriendFeed. (Ross and Dan, you are amazing - I can't believe how awesome this thing turned out)
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
How very creative. This is very fluid and cool.
- Louis Gray
OK, not exactly what I was expecting, but very cool.
- Kevin Arth
Anyone have the video somewhere other than Youtube? it's banned here in Turkey and I can't wait until we get home (next month) to watch it!!
- Chris Myles
Bret, this video should be titled: A Love Song for FriendFeed ! Great vid (and music) !
- Ahsan Ali
This is superb. I just showed it to my 5 year old son who enjoys Lego and has already taken some great photos, including one or two of his toys. So now he has the seed of the idea that, in time, he could take multiple stills and put them together to make moving pictures. Thank you very much for posting it and giving me and him that opportunity. Maybe, he might use FriendFeed one day too!
- John W Lewis
I think they need to make a full stop-motion version of the Matrix in legos. Now THAT would be awesome. I wonder what bullet-time looks like in LEGO?
- Bret Taylor
i'd pay to see the stop animation lego matrix, but not the sequels
- patrick
"Equipment Generously Provided By Casey Muller" - hahaha!! THIS IS AWESOMESAUCE!!! I love the creative energy and vibe in this video... LOTS of work went into that one! Thanks guys!! :)
- Susan Beebe
Genius, how much time did that all take?
- Wayne Hornsey
Chris Myles: if you want ot - DM me an address and I'll mail you a copy.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
"Two weeks ago, we launched version 2 of the FriendFeed API in beta. Since then, we've watched how developers have been using the API and collected a lot of their feedback. We've implemented some changes, and now, we're ready to remove the beta label!"
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
A two weeks beta in the 2.0 era sounds almost blasphem! Congrats!
- Simone Ruffilli
Congrats to Ben and Gary for all their hard work getting this out the door. And thanks to all the developers who have been sending us great feedback the past couple weeks.
- Bret Taylor
"Today we are launching version 2 of the FriendFeed API for beta testing. We focused on making the API simpler to use, and we added number of compelling new features." Documentation: http://friendfeed.com/api...
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
nice, good to see OAuth support, this will enable a larger 3rd party ecosphere around FriendFeed, I hope
- Jeroen De Miranda
After going through the documentation and playing around with some feeds, I love the fact that you can now see the subscriber lists of people who have their feeds set to private as long as you are subscribed to them and authenticate (mimicking the main site functionality). One thing that's absent is a discussion of Direct Messages. Do they show up in feeds if you authenticate? How do we find just direct messages?
- Mark Trapp
Mark: direct messages are accessed using the feed ID "filter/direct". Read more about feed IDs at http://friendfeed.com/api.... Also direct messages appear in the "home" feed.
- Benjamin Golub
Benjamin: ahhh, I see it now. I missed it when skimming that list over. Thanks!
- Mark Trapp
Can you post the wget version of the command line?
- Gabe
Gabe: wget --user=bgolub --password=passwd --post-file=MyPhoto.jpg http://friendfeed-api.com/v2... should work. In theory. Edit: nope. I'm not sure it's possible to do with wget.
- Mark Trapp
Gabe: wget doesn't support multipart forms as a design decision. If you post a file, FriendFeed returns a 404, and if you post data, the query is too long for wget to handle.
- Mark Trapp
Woowoo, bgolub's password is “passwd” ;-)
- Amit Patel
Amit: I wonder how many people tested that :)
- Benjamin Golub
Thanks to bgolub posting his password, I now have all of FriendFeed's secret documents about notorious users, useless metrics, Justin Timberlake's promoting FF on Oprah's show, hiring Colbert as a spokesperson, Ev Williams being just a “distraction”. TechCrunch is going to love this! ;)
- Amit Patel
Yes big big thanks to the whole team for all their hard work!!
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
from iPhone
Yes, Mo asked to participate in the Ass Roasting. I wasn't really serious about it until Mo asked. Then I had to make it exist.
- Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
LMAO, Kamilah so awesome, but you missed Sean's half-stache and goatee. Those would have made it even more awesome.
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
aw, shoot. I checked, but I wasn't sure about the status of his facial hair.
- Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
This is THE. BEST. THING. ON. THE. INTERNET. EVER. *weeps for joy*
- MoTO Bott
I'm tempted to lie about it just to see what I'd look like in one of your illustrations
- chrisofspades
oh, though sketch is good, ever had an exhibition?
- testbeta
I always knew it. The first time I saw Mo Kargas on FF, I knew he could roast asses with his eyes.
- Joshua
Thanks, everyone :) I don't know that I can sell the original sketchbook, it's really my personal journal. As I say from time to time, though, my goal is to do some larger drawings and paintings, and eventually I hope to sell those, I just need, like, 48 hours in a day to get everything done... it's going to happen somehow, soon. I have had some of my work exhibited at various times,...
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- Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
Kamilah, you're here! You should subscribe to me. :)
- EricaJoy
What happens if I subscribe to you, Erica? Is something in particular happening over on your feed?
- Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
Nothing interesting happening on my feed but I bet $100 I could make your day. :)
- EricaJoy
By the way Kamilah? I want the MoBot on a t-shirt.... Pleeeaaaasssseeee???
- MoTO Bott
Yes, giant robots are made of win. I dunno, Barry... last time I tried to make a t-shirt, people got all excited but no-one bought it (DYSP!). I might just make a design but not bother to try setting up a Spreadshirt (or whichever one it was that I used) for it. I'll have to see.
- Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
I could do that somehow, I guess. I've taken payments through PayPal before. I wonder what pose the MoBot should be in? Have some source material I could work from?
- Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
FriendFeed is now available in Persian! Thanks again to all of our Persian users — it has been extremely exciting for us to see FriendFeed so widely used around the world. You can set your language preference here: http://friendfeed.com/...
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
Any way we could auto-translate (or even have a link with the option to?)? It'd be great to really be able to collaborate with the non-English speaking world...
- Chris Reichow
wow, another language... I can't read it, but that is cool! :)
- Susan Beebe
Now if we could only filter out languages other then our own and have the lang:en search filter.
- DarknessFalls
You're welcome! We are excited to better support our Persian users.
- Bret Taylor
This feels so good to be able to view the pages in a way are eyes used to see Persian writings. Thank you so much! We really appreciate your effort! Thanks again ! :)
- انجل
Great Bret! I remember that in the past some persian people wrote here that whould be nice to have FF interface also in persian, probabilly because their language is very different and english isn't so diffused such in Europe. A welcome to persian friends! :)
- Roberto
from fftogo
bretçim herkes google plus'a gidiyor ama ben seni bırakmam ^^
- aynebilim
Aynebilim'e katılıyorum Bret. Bir sürü idiotla paylaşsam da burayı, vazgeçemiyorum işte. - Ben bu yüzden hiç kimseden gidemem gitmemmmm.. la la laaa
- pippi haşmet
bretçim sana dm atamıyorum..bana abone olur musun ^^
- aynebilim
Interesting. My wife got LASIK 5 years ago, and it was a huge life-changer for her. No side effects and she's been lens-free ever since, with 20/15 vision and excellent night vision. Previous to the procedure she had 20/50 or worse and had great difficulty driving at night. But if 55% complain about side effects and 1/20 operations are botched, it's a risky elective procedure.
- Stephen Mack
from iPhone
I consider myself an early adopter. I'm getting an iPad as soon as they're available, I put a deposit on my Prius before they were even available to test drive, but there's no way I would get Lasik surgery within the next decade. The technology is still advancing and there's not enough data about long-term complications or other adverse effects. Having Lasik is like being able to only...
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- Kevin Fox
Besides the fact that Lasik can't correct my vision to 20/20 and I'd still have to wear corrective lenses, my decision never to get it was sealed when I talked to an ophthalmologist, and he said he'd never get it either. "They're your *eyes*! What if they screw up?"
- Victor Ganata
My friend had Lasik done several years ago and still going strong with no side effects. I wanted to get it too but, apparently, my astigmatism is so bad that I can't have the procedure done.
- Arlan K.
I'm glad I don't (yet) need LASIK but if I did, and I was told I was a good candidate from two different experts, and the surgeon was very good, with a proven record, I think I'd go for it. But I understand 100% where Kevin is coming from.
- Stephen Mack
from iPhone
I wanted it but I'm not a candidate due to my vision problems. It was disappointing, but perhaps in the future they'll have something else to offer.
- Rochelle
To be fair, while I wear glasses or contacts every day, I'm fully functional without them. If I were legally blind or nearly so without vision correction I'd probably be more willing to take the chance of side effects.
- Kevin Fox
I am a candidate for Lasik and I want it, yet I keep putting it off because I totally depend on on my eyes for my photography and graphics. Basically I'm chicken, so I keep waiting till it feels like its time to jump in.
- Rachel Lea Fox
I keep thinking about getting Lasik, since it's the hip thing to do these days, but I'm afraid I'd end up needing to wear glasses or contacts if it didn't go well.
- Jim Norris
It's actually because I have really poor uncorrected vision that I wouldn't go for it. If your vision isn't that bad, it's more likely that they can correct you to 20/20.
- Victor Ganata
I got mine done almost 3 years ago. Well worth it for me. Just make sure you do your research on the doctor. The place I went to was recommended by a trusted friend and after seeing how well mine went, my boss' wife also had her's done at the same place. I have a friend who would love to get it done but won't until they're able to guarantee success/no complications. He'll be waiting forever IMO. As any other medical procedure, you can dramatically minimize the risk but nothing's ever guaranteed.
- ronin
I personally would probably go with an implantable accommodating lens since my vision is so bad. It is more invasive, but if they screw it up (and assuming they don't accidentally enucleate my eye) they can always take it out and I'd just have to wear contacts or glasses. If they screw up Lasik, some of those optical artifacts you end up with aren't easily correctable. The other plus with the implantable accommodating lens is that you can treat presbyopia with it.
- Victor Ganata
Speaking of presbyopia, my boss' wife actually got this treated as part of her Lasik. "Laser blended vision" is apparently what it's called: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki.... First time I had heard of it but apparently it works great after your brain adjusts itself to it.
- ronin
In the mid/late 90s I was working in the information office at the National Eye Institute at NIH. They had just released the results of a 10 year study on radial keratotomy, the precursor to LASIK, which got a lot of attention because the results were favorable. But the doctors who did the study would be the first people to tell you they wouldn't get RK because there was no evidence that these patients would not have problems with their vision in their 60s-70s.
- Corinne L
What was fascinating to me was hearing consumers call in and ask about RK and ask why it wasn't covered by insurance. When I'd explain it was elective cosmetic surgery, they would be annoyed, and saying "you can still wear glasses and/or contact lenses" didn't appease them.
- Corinne L
I've never had laser eye surgery, but even I see these "starbursts" that I see discussed in this article. I thought everybody did until I started reading up on it. Apparently the "halos" and "starbursts" effects can also occur naturally.
- Otto
"Bobby McFerrin demonstrates the power of the pentatonic scale, using audience participation, at the event "Notes & Neurons: In Search of the Common Chorus", from the 2009 World Science Festival, June 12, 2009."
- Lasse Johnsen
from Bookmarklet
"It’s taking something everyone knows on the web (your email address) and making it immensely more valuable as a way to identify yourself and information about you. Exactly what kind of information? Here are some of the ideas from the WebFinger Google Code page: * public profile data * pointer to identity provider (e.g. OpenID server) * a public key * other services used by that email address (e.g. Flickr, Picasa, Smugmug, Twitter, Facebook, and usernames for each) * a URL to an avatar * profile data (nickname, full name, etc) * whether the email address is also a JID, or explicitly declare that it’s NOT an email, and ONLY a JID, or any combination to disambiguate all the addresses that look like something@somewhere.com * or even a public declaration that the email address doesn’t have public metadata, but has a pointer to an endpoint that, provided authentication, will tell you some protected metadata, depending on who you authenticate as."
- Paul Buchheit
from Bookmarklet
I don't want my contact information to be my identifier. I shouldn't have to give a website my email address, just like I shouldn't have to give a store my phone number.
- Daniel Sims
Daniel, I think it just takes the form of an email address, but does not in fact have to be one (or could be a "throw away" account).
- Paul Buchheit
It would be cool if we could get our act together (as an industry) and make this stuff happen. I'd also like to see ENUM deployed to the point that my phone number can be linked to my identity. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...)
- Joe Beda
This is a bad idea in so many ways I can't even begin to list them.
- April
If a site wants my email address, it's probably in order to spam me. It's usually a bad sign. If legit sites ask for my email more, it will make it harder to identify the spammers.
- Tim Tyler
Do gmail users seriously still have problems with spam? I don't.
- Robin Barooah
Personally this sounds great - as long as it really doesn't force you to use your actual gmail address.
- Robin Barooah
Does this mean I can have a .plan again?
- Benjamin Lee
Sounds like the .plan which is (again) accessed via an id in email format and returns different information/metadata about a person depending on who's accessing it. Email id is used to do a DNS lookup in order to discover URL for the XRD file (accessed with a HTTP GET) containing the metadata about the person being, er, WebFinger-ed.
- Nenad Nikolic
it is like user authenticating, having two three ids won't hurt ;) well i don't want to be identified, they are going same as gravatar
- testbeta
It's so curious to me that people have concerns that WebFinger would lead to more spam, and yet don't like the "format" of URLs for IDs. Personally, as far as OpenID is concerned, I don't care what the identifier looks like as long as people can remember it — typically email seems easier to recall than URLs (for most people in today's world).
- Chris Messina
Some users who have an email account with Google, myself included, have oodles of incoming mail both standard and secure so it fits the bill to increase security for both vendors and marketers.
- frank burns
I have no problem with the idea, but it seems to me that it won't help the current state of affairs much. The kind of information I'd be interested in sharing via Webfinger (my OpenID, a URL to a FOAF file, etc.) will have no better adoption, so the Webfinger configuration doesn't buy me much. I'll hold out hopes that after a couple tight integrations between Webfinger and OpenID providers (say if Google, Microsoft and/or Yahoo provided and consumed both) things will improve ... here's to hoping :(
- J. McConnell
Years ago I experimented with FOAF. I didn't fully understand nor appreciate what I was doing. To serve as a warning, if you take this example, ensure that it is blocked. #Example: I sent a file to Adobe which in turn, was sent to another email account I had at the time. I verified it's sender (ME) and sent it back in the direction of travel. A signed FOAF (API KEY) was then returned...
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- frank burns
Some people should not have children! // Algunas personas no deben tener hijos!
- sistema428
@sistema428 - LOL! Love how this child's parents' parenting ability is somehow diminished by the fact that their drive took them through a tunnel. I would agree with your statement in many circumstances, but not in the context of this video.
- Lindsay
If you're banking on Google to recover your car after a grand thief auto, you might want to try other resources. Bing?
- Micah
Me and my family just picked ourselves up off the floor and dried our eyes after ROFL'ing profusely at this...
- Rah-PM 2012
LOL! <sarcasm>I am going to go talk to the Race Czar's about this immediately!</sarcasm>
- EricaJoy
if you search for "blakc peolpestole my car" you can see the same result.. just change for the correct one and take a print screen... hahaha this is hell funny
- Rafael
huh...I tried both and neither gave a 'did you mean....' Why the difference?
- George Gray
George, this was from earlier. I think it's probably been fixed by now.
- Thomas Hawk
I can't reproduce the results either. Even more proof that Google's damage control department works real f-a-s-t
- BLOGBloke
I can reproduce these results (as it's fake). 1 - Do a google search for 'balck people stole my car' 2 - when the results come back, in the search box type 'white people stole my car'. 3 - Screenshot and fool everyone.
- Will Higgins™
Thomas...ah...I was catching up on my feed and didn't notice when the message posted. Still, I have noticed different results when using Google from: the browser search bar, going right to google.com and when logged into google via iGoogle. Weird.
- George Gray
This reminds me of how commercials for home alarm systems always feature white criminals.
- Akiva
Dude, you win 1000 times over for use of the word 'colored'. I'm about as far from a racist as you can get but that shit cracks me up every time.
- Akiva
i think that google isnt racist, but people that use it yes..infact google shows firstly the most popular results.....this is my opinion..and please apologize me formy english..i'm italian!w La pizza!
- Lyssa
Johnny is awesome. If all the people who really care about you on this site could have contributed, it would be at least 10 times as long. I am an obvious omission and that is my fault entirely. Johnny, you are my Aussie soulmate. Carry on and drop that pant like a pro.
- Louis Gray
Louis, in all seriousness... I love you and your family. I may be drunk but love runs deep *pumps fist on chest twice*... I haz Johnny Walker
- Johnny
from iPhone
OK, I don't know this song, and when they were saying "Be good." I thought they were saying "Bacon"!
- Kevin L
That is awesome..truly awesome.. Happy B-day Johnny.
- Chris Myles
I think I am closing in on double digits likes on this.
- Martha
All day, in my head, I've had: Begoodbegood, begoodbegoodbegood, begoodbegoodbegood...
- Brent
What do you know? Valleywag got everything wrong. Google is hiring, not laying off. Also, our interview scores actually correlate very well with on-the-job performance. Peter Seibel asked me if there was anything counterintuitive about the process and I said that people who got one low score but were hired anyway did well on-the-job. To me, that means the interview process is doing very well, not that it is broken. It means that we don't let one bad interview blackball a candidate. We'll keep interviewing, keep hiring, and keep analyzing the results to improve the process. And I guess Valleywag will keep doing what they do...
- Peter Norvig
from Bookmarklet
Further, while you hired a rare few people who got "1" scores on one their interviews, you rejected 99 percent of those people, and you have no idea how they would have performed. Those you did hire turned out to be top performers. Sounds broken to me. (I am the author of the Valleywag post in question.)
- Ryan Tate
Hi Ryan, thanks for commenting. First: we get over 1000 resumes a day. We can't hire all of them. I am painfully aware that a few of the people we don't hire would be as good or better than a few of the people we do. I feel bad for the people we have to reject who are equally qualified, but that is the nature of uncertain decision-making. Now what I said in the Seibel interview: we try...
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- Peter Norvig
It's a great shirt. Google is tops. No system is perfect -- so long as there's a weighting for intangibles and accounting for style differences between interviewer and interviewee, all should be fine.
- Christopher Galtenberg
Bump. Maybe Ryan didn't get a chance to see that you'd responded, Peter.
- Matt Cutts
Could you recommend any literature on data driven hiring practices? Google seems to use many analogical reasoning questions for screening applicants. It would be interesting if there was a relationship between analogical reasoning and productivity.
- Brandon Smietana
Peter, did you ever read Malcolm Gladwell's book Blink? Seems to me the other piece of the hiring process to analyze is the cost-benefit analysis - is it worth doing so many interviews and so much testing if people's first hunch is often the best indicator? (Which isn't exactly what Gladwell said, but partially).
- Laura Norvig
I'm very suspicious of relying on the first hunch. If you hired everyone based on your first hunches, you would discover that most of the time you are wrong. I've lost count of the number of times I've interviewed someone (either on-site or as a second phone interview), and learned that the previous interviewer did not ask them to write code, despite the position being one that required...
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- Piaw Na
Yeah! Always go with the _second_ hunch.
- Andrew C (✓)
While I respect G for maintaining it's high standards for selection of new employees, one must caution against becoming myopic from seeking an image cast from itself. I've always thought that brainteasers were gimmicks and not real tests of one's ability, and using them in real-world hiring is just plain juvenile! While I don't know the details of their hiring process, I'd be curious to...
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- Sir Roxalot
People talk a lot about the brainteasers, but I know I've never used one in the hundreds of interviews I've done, and when we consider hiring someone, I'm not influenced if they miss a brainteaser question that someone else asked. I am influenced if they refuse to engage, or discuss the question. -Peter Norvig
- Peter Norvig
from email
I've never used a brainteaser in my interviews either. I don't like them, and discount interviewers who use them heavily.
- Piaw Na
It's important to beware of survivor bias when reviewing the outcomes of your processes. Sure most of the 1's did well, but how about the 4's? It's easy to overtrain a system, and in any group of workers I've been in, I've shielded the slightly less competent Peacemakers from ridicule by the other Smart Guys because we need them just as much as they need us.
- Jason Marshall
"This unique home was designed by Gigaplex Architects for a single person living in Woodland, Utah. The home is constructed of two linked corrugated-metal grain silos making for some great circular interior space."
- JoEllen
from Bookmarklet
this is nice. very unique living space. i posted an article a while back here on ff detailing similar mill conversions. now i can't seem to find it 'cause ff screwed up the search feature
- Cee Bee
Looking at the kitchen shot I thought "that doesn't seem very well insulated" but then I realized that corrugated metal wall is probably just elaborate interior paneling and not the actual exterior silo structure. Seems like they built interior walls around the entire side, so the grain silos effectively provide siding and inspiration.
- ⓞnor
What is the difference between liking and starring? Are likes more public?
- Benjamin Golub
@Benjamin Starring is either public or private, based on your settings. Sharing shares with your shared list. Liking is visible to everyone, so if you like a Gizmodo post and I also subscribe to Giz, I can see that even though our Google Reader accounts aren't connected. From the blog post: ""likes" are public, so anyone reading an item you've "liked" in Reader can see that you're a fan."
- Roshan Vyas
That's super-cool. Also like Mihai's tip to see the feed of my likes.
- Matt Cutts
Hmm… liking a thread on liking is far too close to likcest by my reckoning.
- ianf ⌘
@Mihai, @Jenna -- definitely need to make the Likes page and feed more discoverable. I spent a while looking for it myself last night.
- DeWitt Clinton
DeWitt, we haven't figured out if users are comfortable with all of their likes being aggregated like that, so for now only the owner can see their likes feed.
- Mihai Parparita
Oh, makes sense. Though I'd make the case that since Likes are visible to everyone, the feed for them should be as well. I wanted to export them to FF, for example.
- DeWitt Clinton
So there are stars, shares, and likes. Likes are differentiated from the other two by being public. They're a brand new interaction so you aren't changing things out from under anyone. Please don't require auth for the feed of the most public thing, when the sharing feed (less public) doesn't require auth.
- Daniel Dulitz
Helpful post. I'd take issue with the claim all 3 are user-defined. Likes _are_ public; they go wherever the liked item does. As you say, redefining semantics is hard. So if you want a public interaction, and it appears from how you've defined likes as public that you do, now's your window of opportunity. :-)
- Daniel Dulitz
Cool feature. I think of tags in GReader as labels, though, and I'm going to miss hitting "l" to tag an item like I could before this feature was added.
- Nathan Selander
@Nathan Selander you can use 't' now. cool feature indeed. I'm anxious to see how it evolves "in the wild".
- George Moga
@George Moga You could use 't' before. I'd just used 'l' because that's also the shortcut key in Gmail for labeling. My problem now is that I end up liking everything I'd intended to label/tag because 'l' is still in my muscle memory.
- Nathan Selander
@tanath enter the konami code in Reader (up, up, down, down, left, right, left right, b, a then hit enter. Once you see Ninjas in your sidebar, try liking something. It's just for fun.
- Jenna Bilotta
I value screen real estate quite a lot in web applications and the newly introduced likes feature of Google Reader has taken valuable real-estate away. While you can hide the number of likes, I did want to see the number. So I moved it to the most logical place. Right next to the “Like link” using greasemonkey http://userscripts.org/scripts...
- Manu
Oh, I see - the heart shows up _after_ you like something in ninja mode. Thanks, Jenna. :)
- Tanath
Has something changed for the like feed in the mean time, can it be accessed publicly now? I would like to import it in a Twitter account, but I don't want to give out my Google credentials to a third-party...
- George Moga
Yeah, it's really fun to use and the controller is pretty intuitive. The heat from all of those screens makes it a little toasty after a while.
- Simon
Buzz map in iPhone/web app is awesome (you can geotag your buzzes and see a map of what people are saying nearby), I love geotagging :), I think is the best feature Gbuzz has so far.
- Orlando Pozo
Gbuzz/Gmail need to fix private settings, even blocking and reporting people as spams don't work.
- Orlando Pozo
Everyone is saying FF is dead. :) I sure hope not, but just in case :)
- Roberto Bonini
For Paul, I assume there is an incredible amount of self-satisfaction. Buzz has really brought the FriendFeed experience to a new audience, regardless of its name. Thanks for all your contributions, Paul.
- Louis Gray
I really like Buzz, very cool... glad to see Google release something that integrates a ton of their existing portfolio of products together! Buzz is truly a game changer... wow
- Susan Beebe
Maybe we should all agree to just go use Buzz, let them shut down FriendFeed, and Paul, Bret, et al can concentrate on Facebook... ;-)
- Ken Sheppardson
It must be bittersweet. Well put, Louis. Well put.
- Akiva
I've had a FriendFeed gadget in my Gmail left column for ages ;)
- Tinfoil 2.0
+1 Louis. Gmail, FriendFeed, Facebook.. Amazing job and ideas, Paul!
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
I was watching the announcement with my brother and I kept saying "just like Friendfeed", "just like Friendfeed", "just like Friendfeed" ...
- Alejandro
STILL not showing up in mine!!! It does show up on my iPhone. I've been playing with it for the past hour, but really wish I could see in in a real web browser on a real computer!
- Jeff P. Henderson
Jeff same problem here. Very frustrating!
- BRҰANSAҰS
its like Pauls child FF reunion with its elder brother gmail :)
- sirishkumar
Paul, one thing that I am sure to miss on Buzz is, not being able to see all the awesome Googler's and Xoogler's feeds that I see here on Friendfeed. I wish there is someway Buzz remedies this. Really bummed about this. :(
- Space Cowboy
Paul, same feeling here, but now that I see buzz map in iPhone/web app, that's pretty cool stuff.
- Orlando Pozo
Paul, we need something like buzz map for friendfeed ;).
- Orlando Pozo
Paul, Gbuzz privacy settings really suck, even blocking and reporting people as spammers don't work :S
- Orlando Pozo
from iPhone
Paul, did you know Google was working on Buzz when you sold FriendFeed?
- Richard Cunningham
I love how friendfeed, with all of the love and effort that all of us have vested in it, gets to keep on reaching new places, even if it's not *exactly* FF. Nice one.
- Iain Baker
What Gary said. Specifically, systems like AppEngine are meant to be scalable by strongly encouraging (well, requiring, for all intents and purposes) a stateless server model. A long-lived socket connection, by contrast, is meant to do the precise opposite. I suspect the AppEngine team is thinking about this sort of thing w.r.t. XMPP and WebSockets, but I'm not sure how they'll resolve this dichotomy.
- Joel Webber
I agree, Gary, you definitely have to deal with dropped connections on both sides to make apps work correctly. On the server side, the code looks almost identical to the long-polling code, except you "send a message" rather than finish the HTTP response, but I don't think you can get rid of the concept of cursors and connection restarts without losing messages on dropped connections.
- Bret Taylor
What are "cursors" in this context? Seems like the logical thing would be to have a message queue fabric that uses WebSockets and/or other transports to send, receive, and acknowledge messages, with stateless handlers that are invoked for incoming messages, can access storage resources, and can enqueue new outgoing messages (not necessarily to the same client). (I don't know anything about GAE's plans.)
- ⓞnor
Right, thanks. The message fabric would need to have message queues which can be indexed with the cursors. So state is kept in the message queues ("above") and the storage layer ("below"), but message handlers (app logic) can be stateless. This model might not be very efficient if you have to keep loading and saving a lot of state for every message, but you have that problem with HTTP servers too, and the same solutions (memory based cacheservers, sticky-but-unreliable session objects, etc) apply.
- ⓞnor
No question that sockets *can* be used in an essentially stateless manner, as long as both sides are resilient to dropped connections. One assumes the servlet/handler/whatever would need to be terminated automatically when resources are needed. But the server would need to be very carefully constructed such that it could always recover lost state when this happens.
- Joel Webber
Agreed, Gary. But for something like AppEngine, we're talking about the need to be resilient to the equivalent of a server restart with very little notice, more frequently than would happen naturally. I believe this would mean being essentially stateless, even though you're keeping a socket connection open to a client, which is certainly possible, but not a necessity one would expect...
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- Joel Webber
Bret, I love this web socket daemon feature, hope all the web clients/servers implement this API soon.
- Orlando Pozo
While the Alexa numbers are not accurate in absolute terms, it is true that Turkey is now officially the largest source of traffic for FriendFeed by all metrics (unique users and page views)
- Bret Taylor
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@Bret, tell us approx. # of ff users from Turkey :)
- Serkan Ünsal
auto-translate (server side) is the next killer feature - translations aren't always perfect i know, but it's better than nothing (or learning all the other languages)
- Chris Heath
Please just keep FriendFeed up, don't let it die. This is absolutely the best thing you can do for Turkey.
- Ahmet Alp Balkan
Dear Bret, I couldn't get my pay check this month. Is there a problem or something else? Looking forward to hear from ya. Love, another turkish user keeps INTERNETS alive.
- Bahriye
I read an article about Turkey in Psychology Today recently. It seems the population in general is very forward-looking and eager to prove their modernity to the rest of the world. Like :).
- LANjackal
bret gardaş biz olmasag FF batardı ha. Bizede bi sakal atarsın artıgın feysin verdiği manilerle ?
- Çağatay " SKYLAB " Şama
Kıymetimizi bil Bret, biz sana bazen kızıyoruz ama senin iyiliğin için onlar. FB'deki sarışın oğlana tiggat et, iyi şeyler duymuyorum onunla ilgili.
- mcd
Funny how some countries just take over some social networking sites. Like Orkut in Brazil and FriendFeed in Turkey.
- Gabe
we are a veeeeeeery communicative nation, that is all:) and we love sharing:)
- Neşe
ah bi de konuşsan neler söyleyecen ama, tek laf yok. teşekkürler de Alah razı olsun de, milletçe bir tepki koyduk mu facebook geri satar valla....
- Serbay Arda Ayzit
FYI and as a side-note to my earlier comment about translation; gmail offered to translate Serbay's recent comment as it came through my email notifications... here's the turkish > english translation: "What you talking ah bi de söyleyecen, but not a single word. Thank you also get consent Alah, the nation do we put a response back to facebook sells valla ...." --- i'm guessing there's...
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- Chris Heath
@chris :) please do not use google translate, it makes a horrifying translation, probably because the Turkish syntax is very different than English. Yet, it is very true that there was a lot of slang in Serbay's comment, no translator algorhythm would solve:) he simply was commenting on the fact that Bret did not really say anything about or commented on the situation, he just presented it:) apperantly serbay was expecting a thank at least, on behalf of Turkey:)
- Neşe
Bret, come visit turkey and we will show you the best food around :) and also you might find some really good tech startups. ps. did you know every startup in turkey has a belly dancer ? it help keeping the spirits up :)
- denizoktar
Neşe, thanks for the summary. And I did notice the poor quality of the translation, and that is part of why I posted it. I just found it cool that the option was right there in my email. Google noticed that the language was not english, realized that it was turkish, and then offered to translate it for me all in one simple click. With these types of features and capabilities that we...
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- Chris Heath
Today at lunch at Facebook, a good friend reconfirmed Turkey is still in top 10 countries globally for Facebook
- Aydin Senkut
Turkey is the biggest user of FriendFeed on the planet ;)
- Orlando Pozo
Indeed, that's sad. Turkey has one of the greatest social web consumer market in the world, and still we got no producers, and no products. Just consuming, and that sucks. Turks always cheer up when they are in some top 10 list, but that doesn't change the fact we are still far away from building a FriendFeed-like site. I don't mean we are just consumer idiots, there are brilliant...
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- deerstep
turkey is huge for us too.. but.. the female to male ratio from turkey is like 1/100 :( through turkish men seem quite motivated, using translators to talk in any language
- t toring
Well, half of the population in Turkey is under 25 years, so yes... Turkish men is quite motivated :) Since Mahir, Internet is the most convenient method to find a partner in Turkey :D
- deerstep
the issue though is that turkish women participate WAY less resulting in an imbalance. i havent run the numbers but i can safely assume 95% of the turkish traffic is male. is this typical?
- t toring
No, it is not typical. I guess the ratio is almost 50/50. You can safely assume that you were heading to a gay bar :)
- deerstep
umm... well no because browsing around clearly the turkish men are not engaging with other males but women from other countries. when i say "assume" i mean without running reports.. simply browsing around.. so its not really an assumption. just like when u walk into a bar you can tell whether its frequented by a particular kind of people, you dont need to actually do a count or survey
- t toring
In touristic places that's probably typical in any country: Local people engage with people from other countries, but in general... don't think so. Maybe you should spend some 2-3 months in Istanbul if you want to understand how Turkish men engage.
- deerstep
Onur i think you misunderstood.. i am talking about the traffic on a site i run..
- t toring
Onur seems quite motivated to convince you ahah
- Fikret
Toring, ah I see, but it is not typical even on a web-site. For example, Turkish User profile on FriendFeed is quite different from what you assume. And Turkish users on Myspace are quite different than here, and it goes ... From your assumptions I can tell, you are running a dating site which is popular among Turkish men, but not women.
- deerstep
well, most of turkish ff users are not able to reach to friendfeed from this afternoon bret :) we do not know the reason yet, but i can tell it is an isp related problem. we (i) use tunnels or ultrasurf kinda patchs to reach friendfeed atm.
- Bahriye