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got a surprise Xmas kiss on the cheek and wink from a cashier at Kroger this afternoon.
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o_O
- Laura B.
he was cute, but i am both straight and married. decided to take it in the spirit in which it was intended, tho. :)
- Joe Silence is not Santa
:)
- metalerik
Happy Birthday Josh! <3
Jill Hurst-Wahl, Spidra Webster, Helen Sventitsky and 26 other people liked this
ZOMG! Thank you so much, Aden! RAWK!
- josh neff, geek at large
Happy Bday!
- Shevonne
Sinefftro had to make a come back today :)
- aden
lol Happy Bday Josh
- VAL D. Zone
NO WAY! Your birthday too, Josh? Happy Birthday! It's also my brother's and sister's birthday!
- FF's Bubba of Arizona
oh my GOSH happy birthday JOSH! have some NOSH!
- Call me Bronco
Happy Birthday!
- Josh Haley
YAY! Happy Birfday!!
- Yolanda
Happy Birthday Josh!!!!! And a Merry Joshmas to all!!!
- ha3rvey (free hugs!)
Happy Birthday, Josh. :)
- cecily
Happy Birthday, Josh. Love the outfit!
- Jennifer McDaniel
Happy birthday!
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
Josh - happy birthday!
- Jeremy (quasimodo)
Happy Birthday, Josh!
- AJ Batac
Lookin' good, my man. Happy birthday.
- s t e v e
Merry Joshmas, my friend. And happy birthday.
- Derrick
Yay! Merry Joshmas! Hope you have a wonderful birthday!
- Laura B.
Happy birthday!
- Rochelle
Happy Birthday! Today I will eat cake, drink alcoholic beverages, and have fun in your honor. =D
- Junebug (aka Sarah Jill)
Whoooo! Happy birthday!
- Lo
Love Aden's choice of costume - Josh rules! Happy Birthday.
- Polly Potter
Recently declined an offer to be nominated for Movers and Shakers.
Jill Hurst-Wahl, Mike Nencetti, Kirsten and 4 other people liked this
All decisions in life should be so easy
- J450N
We were recently talking about the idea of declining M&S in the LSW FF room. What's your rationale?
- s t e v e
I'd rather be informally appreciated by my peers for the work I do than formally recognized by a magazine campaign that (not coincidentally) does a really good job of pushing web traffic to LJ's site.
- J450N
Dude, ya rawk! (there's your informal recognition, seriously)
- Stephen Francoeur
that's pretty rad - that somebody respects and appreciates you enough to nominate you, and that you have the convictions and principle to decline. that is punk.
- Kendra <3 Three Lions
That's pretty close to what I was trying to say in LSW: http://ff.im/aLqES
- s t e v e
Thanks! You're right, Steve, about it being hard to separate criticism of the campaign and peers that have been named M&Sers.
- J450N
This exchange, combined with something Iris suggested last year, is giving me an idea of what to do with Shovers and Makers in 2010.
- s t e v e
ah, the irony! the people who most deserves an award are the people who will decline it :)
- marthalib
I'd like to informally again recognize Jason Kucsma as a honest-to-deity mover and shaker. In 2010, I think we're going to see a bunch of interesting projects that he's deeply involved with.
- Stephen Francoeur
Stern librarian approves of this action.
- cecily
y'all are too much. thanks, stephen and cecily. i'm just, y'know, doing what makes sense.
- J450N
TypeTees - T-shirt: Stupid raisins, stay out of my cookies - http://typetees.threadless.com/product...
Jill Hurst-Wahl, ElijahBailey-Zu of FF <0,, Laura B. and 3 other people liked this
THE SHIRT KNOWS!!!!
- Kendra <3 Three Lions
from Bookmarklet
Friday before break? Um... NOT QUITE. Where's my coffee?
rowlikeagirl, RAPatton, vicster is... and 10 other people liked this
sorry I don't have any...........will hot cocoa do?
- VAL D. Zone
OK, ok - I'll bring you coffee. Just don't beat me up!
- Sparky
Sparky, thanks! I don't have the energy for punching. Those are half-hearted fists.
- Kendra <3 Three Lions
I'm a lover, not a fighter, K.
- Derrick
Derrick, you are the ying to my yang. The wind beneath my wings.
- Kendra <3 Three Lions
I'm convinced the janitors at my office are officially coffee haters...They regularly toss out whole carafes of coffee made just minutes before...probably the only reason I don't like night shift.
- Christian (Simply X)
Greg is starting a new birthday weigh-in tradition. Today, the Wii Fit reads 188.1. That's about 3.5 lbs. from a "normal" BMI. Total loss since last January: 56.4 lbs.
Jill Hurst-Wahl, Kendra <3 Three Lions, Nikki D. and 8 other people liked this
i'm really impressed and proud! i'm so glad you are healthy for you and your family.... we've gotta stick around a long time, right?
- βℜ∀ñÐi
I figure if I am gonna stick around a while, I may as well not spend the time in a hospital fighting off or succumbing to self-inflicted ailments.
- Greg Schwartz
Congrats and many happy returns, Greg. :)
- David Rothman (☤)
Alex, if you want me to take these down, please let me know :)
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Alex Scoble and his lovely bride Cassie.
- joey
Yay, you got the kiss!
- Alix Whitmire
oh :)
- See-ming Lee 李思明 SML
Wonderful!
- WorldofHiglet
nice..............
- VAL D. Zone
Thanks for posting these, joey. I couldn't connect to the webcam to watch it myself.
- Jason Huebel
Good catch Joey!
- Santa CW™
Yay! I couldn't get the webcam to show up either, so thanks for posting & CONGRATS ALEX & CASSIE!
- Penguin It's Cold Outside
It was a great wedding!
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
And a mazel tov to Alex and Cassie!
- Akiva Moskovitz
Congrats Alex! :)
- Oğuz Serdar
Wow...congrats Alex!!!
- Kamath (नमः)
I like the Christmas tree in the background! Beautiful!
- Jill Hurst-Wahl
Whoa .... Congratulations you guys!!!
- Charlie Anzman
Congratulations Alex & new wife :)
- 'Like' robot (frɐnc)
Congratulations, Alex and Cassie! What a beautiful moment!
- Anne Bouey
That's great!
- SAM
Congrats to both of you!
- Spidra Webster
Congratulations Scobles.
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
Congrats!!! Makes me more excited for my day (uh...her day) in 7 months!
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Beautiful! Congrats Alex!
- Carmen
Congrats..!
- ★ Soner Gönül
Congratulations - You make a beautiful couple!
- Tony C
Wow! Gorgeous. Congrats!!!
- rowlikeagirl
Congratulations Mr and Mrs Scoble.
- Eric Logan
Mazel Tov! :-)
- Mathew A. Koeneker
Love it!
- David Cook
Awesomesauce!
- Alex Scoble
Congratulations!
- Elena
w00t!
- AJ Batac
Congrats to the two of you.
- Derek Coward
Congrats looks like a wonderful wedding!
- Rasmus Lauridsen
from iPhone
Beautiful photos and congrats to both of you!
- Emma
Congrats to the latest Mr. & Mrs. Scoble! ;-p
- Robyn Hawk
Thanks, Joey!
- Alex Scoble
Congratulations, Alex & Cassie! May your marriage be full of win.
- Bren -- feeling merry
from iPhone
Congrats Alex!!
- Rachel Lea Fox
Congrats!!!!! :-D
- Live4Emma (L4S)
Congratulations From Asia
- Robert Higgins
Congratulations!
- Mark "DerBingle" J
Totally forgot the big day was yeeterday. Congrats to you both!!
- Roberto Bonini
from iPhone
Houston elects first openly gay mayor - CNN.com - http://www.cnn.com/2009...
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I love you, Steve.
- josh neff, geek at large
it is less taxing to just snipe defensively all the time, imho
- marthalib
I'd vote for that name, Josh.
- s t e v e
I suggest the Sheriff's clubhouse!
- Sir Shuping
International Association of Pipefitters International.
- Joe
Insane Information Professional Posse
- s t e v e
'Loving Steve is easy cos he's a carping nerdboy/ and everything that I do/ is based on carping too... la la la la la'
- Pete
Carping Professionals of Information
- s t e v e
Professional Information Sycophants
- marthalib
We Don't Need No Steeenking Badges
- Pete
Association of Specialized Searching PROfessionals, or ASSPro
- josh neff, geek at large
The Association for Library Automatons
- Sir Shuping
The Legion of Information Professionals
- josh neff, geek at large
so Josh, our helpline would be called LIP Service?
- Pete
American Dodgeball Association of America.
- Joe
Legion of Library Superhero types that fight zombies with knowledge and lolcats
- Sir Shuping
Boogie Data Productions, featuring Knowledge Rule Systems-One
- Pete
@Pete: YES, THAT
- josh neff, geek at large
Superior Ultimate Coalition of Knowledge Architects
- s t e v e
Steve, maybe change that last to Associates?
- lris' ghost
I'm picturing Michael Gorman shouting 'I'm gonna git you SUCKA'
- Pete
Librarians! Fuck Yeah!
- josh neff, geek at large
Dammit Iris, why are you so afraid of the A word! We are all Architects, can't we be proud of it!?
- s t e v e
Dial L for Librarian!
- josh neff, geek at large
I have just been informed that we are not, in fact, architects. Carry on.
- s t e v e
Books and Shit
- Pete
but...but i build stuff! that makes me an architect right?
- Sir Shuping
Loving LIP Service.
- Junebug (aka Sarah Jill)
I cannot believe you people. Reprehensible!
- laura x
the Librarian Society: we know shit and can take you down
- Sir Shuping
Revolting Librarians
- s t e v e
Librarians Unlocking Blocked Education
- Pete
Slick, Pete.
- s t e v e
English people- we're surprisingly filthy minded. All that repression ya know.
- Pete
Berlin Dada
- josh neff, geek at large
Josh -yes! Or C'eci c'est ne pas un LSW
- Pete
Snarking Library and Information Professionals
- marthalib
Recursion. Deja Who.
- Pete
Ranganathan's Angels
- s t e v e
Steve- surely that should be Prologemena to a Future Ranganathan's Angels, volume 1; Postulates of a professional organisation
- Pete
Hmmm. I was going for either a 70s TV vibe or a biker gang vibe, neither of which are reinforced by your suggestion.
- s t e v e
Pete +one billionty
- marthalib
Vital Information Broker Ensemble. (If you belong to that, you'll probably want to also join Pete's Librarians Unlocking Blocked Education.)
- s t e v e
Let me know when it's time for the divisive sniping.
- Rochelle Rochelle
Ah steve. Well, perhaps Easy Ranganathan's? Jefferson Library?
- Pete
A colleague says "SLA Classic"
- Joe
LSW Zero
- josh neff, geek at large
LSW Blue
- DJF
{Your Brand Here}
- Pete
Crystal LSW
- s t e v e
KRV
- Pete
Justice League! Justice League!
- Jàson Puçkett
I'd suggest a scrolling vertical banner in the authority record made up of Mandarin and Cantonese pictograms with occasional hieroglyphs , but I think neither MARC nor RDA can't handle that, yet...
- awd
Cooperative/Union of Nefarious Twats. why bother including the word librarian?
- tara
I'll be starting a division for reference librarians: Library Information Service Professionals (LISP). And I will be the first one to join LISP's roundtable for the zaftig: INFOrmation Services Professionals--Extra Wide. INFOSpew.
- Rochelle Rochelle
Luckily I just swallowed my coffee before I read Rochelle's entry.
- s t e v e
So, we had an almost-spew. My work is done here, today.
- Rochelle Rochelle
I <3 Rochelle!
- josh neff, geek at large
Thumbs up.
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YAY!!!!!!
- Mary Carmen
Very exciting!!!
- Abigail
Excellent.
- Jeremy (quasimodo)
Dude!
- s t e v e
Yay!
- lris' ghost
:) that is full of awesome
- holly
Woooooooo!!
- Catherine Pellegrino
For reals? AWESOME!
- josh neff, geek at large
yay bebe!!!
- Nikki D.
How much Phish is that kid listening to in utero to already be that mellow?
- Sarah G.
yay!
- Sir Shuping
Jolly good!
- Pete
Did you get the unlimited text account yet? And CONGRATS Greg!
- ♫Geek in the 410♫
and since i was looking at pixar shorts here ya go: http://www.youtube.com/watch... :)
- Sir Shuping
Apparently I have a super secret pocket somewhere that a former & forgetful version of myself thought would be a great place for keys.
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Looking to be a quiet, snowy shift at the ref desk today. Sporting the LSW T-shirt/cardigan look.
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is that really warm enough? o.O
- D0r0th34
Guess you're wrapped up in the luv of the LSW
- Candy Schwartz
from twhirl
it's not snowing inside. Oh, I am also wearing trousers.
- s t e v e
in my office you'd be damn damn cold in just a tee and cardigan. unless the cardigan was fleece, maybe.
- D0r0th34
I brought a heavier sweater but traded for this because I was too hot.
- s t e v e
*resisting responding to the "too hot" comment* @D0r0th34, I have to wear a scarf in my office.
- Ayşe E.
Have a good one, brother Steve.
- Derrick
Thanks D., and I think thanks Ayse.
- s t e v e
Aaaaand student email isn't working. Wonder who I'll get to call at home.
- s t e v e
Students still use email? I thought they only used facebook?... Not.
- Joe
Q: "Where's the fiction section?" A: 60-second lecture on LC classification + plus apologies.
- s t e v e
You're welcome, s t e v e. :)
- Ayşe E.
Hey, we're refdesk buddies! I'm on 1-5 (EST).
- Catherine Pellegrino
What's the sitch, Catherine?
- s t e v e
Welp, I opened the building 25 minutes ago, there's a slow stream of folks working but not needing help. Just your ordinary Sunday afternoon. Oh, and The Neediest Student On The Planet has parked herself at the computer closest to the refdesk. Good times.
- Catherine Pellegrino
Wow. Just had the most calm, coherent, logical-sounding paranoid rant that I have ever heard from a patron about how the military and the government are harassing him via text messages, agents posing as homeless people, and through thinly-veiled threats in headlines in local papers. I told him that his idea for a class action lawsuit through the ACLU was a great angle to pursue.
- s t e v e
Steve wins.
- Catherine Pellegrino
Thank God there is a Colorado Springs chapter, http://www.aclu-cos.org/. The patron will not need to come up to Denver.
- Joe
Yay for paranoid patrons. They keep life interesting
- Junebug (aka Sarah Jill)
I want to know how a library is ever warm enough to be "too hot" for a heavy sweater. Mine never seems to be....
- Abigail
Mine tends to go back and forth Abigail. At the beginning of the week, we could store large slabs of meat frozen, but by the end of the week, we could host a luau complete with bathing suits and hulu dancers.
- Junebug (aka Sarah Jill)
I think with the opening and closing of the front doors we are cooling down. Contemplating move to warmer sweater. #imgettingpaidforthis
- s t e v e
Steve, I think we've had that guy (paranoid rants), except for our guy writes his rants on the little 2x3 sheets of paper we keep at the ref desk, and leaves them on the same desk in the same corner of the library. We haven't seen him lately, so maybe he's made his way to Colorado.
- cecily
He just came back to suggest that we take the money we spend on newspapers--which are simply propaganda--and spend it on the computer network instead.
- s t e v e
'cos everybody knows no propaganda comes through computer networks ;)
- D0r0th34
This guy needs his own tv show. :)
- Junebug (aka Sarah Jill)
He just stopped by on his way out to thank me for helping him decide to take legal action so he can "slap down the punks and the nanotechnologists and the lawyers who try to take advantage of people." Glad I could help.
- s t e v e
everybody loves a librarian ;)
- D0r0th34
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I want to go to there.
- holly
Confession: that's the real reason I want you to become a librarian, too.
- josh neff, geek at large
i thought that's why people became a librarian right?
- Sir Shuping
My Darling Nikki and Purple Rain has led to the babies nine months later. Ask Cecily.
- Derrick
Well, damn, I've never sung karaoke, but I'll do it for you, Derrick.
- D0r0th34
*passes Dorothea a beverage*
- Derrick
It's called "roving reference".
- Meg v. Meg v. 1.0.0.1
I don't sing, I shake my ass.
- Kendra <3 Three Lions
That works too, Kendra.
- Derrick
I'm too lazy to link to it, but there's a video of my moves in action.
- Kendra <3 Three Lions
Ladies and Gentlemen: A future president of SLA
- Sarah G.
Don't you mean AskPro? LOL
- Junebug (aka Sarah Jill)
Sarah June FTMFW.
- D0r0th34
here ya go, Kendra - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Christa
more instructional video at http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Christa
Thanks for posting those, Christa.
- Derrick
I still haven't done the Desultory E-Scholarship Philippic in public. Do karaoke machines have the Paul Simon number I ripped off? http://cavlec.yarinareth.net/2008...
- D0r0th34
Oh man, I never thought my performance of "Regulate" would be described as "instructional video." Maybe my future is in karaographic literacy.
- Greg Schwartz
Hi Derrick--I have not introduced myself. I'm a public librarian--manager of a reference department. Lest you think it's all Karaoke and shots of ouzo, here's the part they don't tell you in library school. An incident report from last night (not to be shared beyond this room, thank you): ""Two students came to the Reference desk and told me a man was openly using inhalents at a carrel...
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- Rochelle Rochelle
Rochelle- Keepin' it Real! 'MLIS- it's not all singing, dancing and romancing; sometimes it's porn, men with the horn and people with scorn. Are you ready?'
- Pete
Pete--I think that's a great book/article title. ;-)
- Rochelle Rochelle
It's actually the working title for my stand up routine ;)
- Pete
I've been on the conference planning committee for the Maryland Library Association for 2 years. For 2 years, I've been trying to get them to have an official karaoke night at the conference. For 2 years, they've looked at me like I'm crazy. I would recommend you skip our conference.
- Alan Simpson
They tried karaoke at Umbrella 2009. It was... interesting. The rendition of 'Sex Bomb' seemed to be channeling an abstinence lecture...
- Pete
Hi Rochelle, thanks for the introduction and story. That's awful. I know it's not all fun and games, but then I see Greg's performance of "Regulate" and I get distracted.
- Derrick
D - you were at SXSW last March. I do believe that among the group of us, I was the only librarian. So you've got the conference/karaoke thing down even without having an MLS. :)
- cecily
Cecily, that was my first conference!!
- Derrick
I've been thinking about something I might like to do in the new year. I'm thinking of putting together a book of essays by LSW folks and publishing it on Lulu. This would be in a more serious or "professional" vein than the zine, but still open to personal or informal essays. I haven't settled on a theme yet, but I'm thinking the writing prompt...
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...might be something like "what are you passionate or excited about in libraries right now?" I'd love to include some pieces on technology, services, management, instruction, and whatever else (that's just off the top of my head), and ideally an essay about LSW itself.
- Jàson Puçkett
I would probably publish a PDF version for free and a paperback edition for inexpensive, and I'd like to creative commons license the whole thing. I have never tried anything like this before, but I think it would be exciting, interesting, and fun. Would anyone be interested in contributing a piece if I went ahead? This isn't a commitment on either part, just a feeler.
- Jàson Puçkett
I'd be happy to do something, if only to ensure there's a W in LSW ;)
- Pete
I'll think about it. I'd have to give some thought to what exactly I'm excited about right now (!) and I might wind up re-working a blog post. Would that be OK? (Oh, and I'd be totally down with CC-licensing.)
- Catherine Pellegrino
I like the idea! Not sure if the muse would strike me to write a contribution, but I'd like to contribute.
- josh neff, geek at large
Yes of course, Catherine. I'm still thinking about that question myself :) since I'd probably want to put my money where my mouth is and write something to go into it.
- Jàson Puçkett
And the idea came from this collection that I read a few months ago: http://www.worldcat.org/oclc... -- I was like, hey, we could totally do that.
- Jàson Puçkett
I'm down.
- s t e v e
Oh my stars, you librarian folk are fascinating with your zines and your writing and your publishing. I'm kicking myself for waiting so long to coming to this conclusion.
- Derrick
Heh. If I didn't know better, I'd think Derrick was being sarcastic.
- s t e v e
Derrick, when you joint the cult.. sorry, profession... we'll show you the fun stuff.
- Pete
*jumps up and down*
- Derrick
Guys- we need to start doing some fun stuff, so Derrick doesn't feel let down.
- Pete
Yeah, depending on how you feel about conference binge drinking, this may be as good as it gets.
- s t e v e
Jason, make sure that Rochelle sees this. She had an idea months and months ago about something for an LSW "White Paper." I don't recall if it fits your proposed theme, though.
- s t e v e
I've heard about y'all's conferences... o_O
- Derrick
Excellent!
- laura x
Ah yes, Derrick. 'Paperback Mountain' I must say my conference experiences have always been sedate. Karaoke aside- them, not me, I add.
- Pete
Pete, I tend to get up with the roosters, which means I also fall asleep when the street lights come on. :(
- Derrick
Well, that fits most librarian patterns. And really, you've not seen ugly until you've seen a room of dancing librarians.
- Pete
Dancing archivists are right up there, Pete: http://friendfeed.com/laurabo...
- Laura B.
Will I ruin the demographic? I'm actually a pretty good dancer?
- Derrick
You'll just shift the curve. Which sounds like a dance move.
- Pete
Pete and Derrick have not seen Iris dance, clearly.
- Jàson Puçkett
Oh I *know* Iris can dance. To every rule, an exception
- Pete
Despite my iffy status with LSW (self-imposed, to be sure), I'd probably contribute. Fortunately, although Lulu does now impose a charge for PDFs ($1.25?), the charge is waived if the price is $0, so that works. (I'd volunteer to do the book layout/production, but you're probably at least as qualified to do that, Jason.)
- Walt Crawford
Huh. I remember that I have an idea, but damned if I can remember what it was. Will think on it.
- Rochelle Rochelle
Just don't let Steve do the typesetting. He'll put it all in Comic Sans.
- laura x
Except for Laura's essay which will be in Zapf Dingbats.
- s t e v e
I do so like hanging out with people who know what a dingbat really is.
- DJF
Whereas I would never use Comic Sans. There are some kid's-handwriting typefaces that are MUCH more appropriate. And there's one where letters are formed out of lightning bolts that would do nicely for subheadings in the more serious articles.
- Walt Crawford
Well, you're the consummate professional, Walt. We all know that.
- josh neff, geek at large
Wait, so I *shouldn't* use Comic Sans? Dammit. Back to the drawing board.
- Jàson Puçkett
Wingding me please.
- Joe
I vastly prefer Comic Serif.
- s t e v e
I was going to go AAAAAUUUUUUUGH, but actually, that font doesn't suck.
- D0r0th34
The science blogging community puts out a collection of blog posts every year and publishes it on Lulu: http://www.lulu.com/coturnix1 People nominate posts and there's a jury that picks the winners. I was on the jury a couple of years ago and it was a great experience. Bora Zivkovic is the series editor. Here's the final call for this year's: http://scienceblogs.com/clock...
- John Dupuis
Serif <3
- Kirsten
Hmm. Comic Serif is way too heavy for body text, but otherwise, what Dorothea sez: It doesn't suck (at least not any more than Rockwell does--and "bouncy version of Rockwell" is a good description).
- Walt Crawford
I am a Rockwell fan. I always feel like someone is watching me choose typefaces.
- s t e v e
Also, just to reiterate, great idea Jason, and I would love to help/contribute.
- s t e v e
I'm really glad so many of you guys are into it. Expect to hear more from me on this after new year's.
- Jàson Puçkett
I'min, too
- awd
I still don't remember what Steve remembers, but I've been kicking around a topic with a friend. Looking forward to hearing more.
- Rochelle Rochelle
Heh, sorry I got no details. It was a while ago, back when we were hanging out in the Meebo room every day. It had something to do with reference and public services--a real thing, not a jokey thing. But yeah, probably let that go and think about the new thing you were kicking around. I guess I was just mostly thinking that at the time I'd thought it was a good idea to try and do something a little more serious, if informal, in the name of the LSW.
- s t e v e
I'd be interested in helping/doing something with this!! :)
- Abigail
Digital Natives, Scholarly Immigrants? - http://acrlog.org/2009...
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Well, that makes sense. Of course, there is the notion that the Nation of Scholarship is also changing and maybe soon *we* will be the immigrants ;)
- Pete
equivalency between plagiarism and IP questions really squicks me. the former question is ethical, the latter legal.
- D0r0th34
malus in se and mala prohibita... is plagiarism wrong in itself, or just because it is 'outlawed'? And what of IP?...
- Pete
As I read that piece, it's saying that most college students don't understand the ethics of plagiarism--and has nothing to do with "digital natives," IP, or much of anything else. The piece could have been published two decades ago and said pretty much the same things (and been right, too). Or four decades ago...
- Walt Crawford
Walt, I agree -- also, I see little evidence among my students that there is a "Nation of Scholarship" emerging to which the digital native has special membership. Using Facebook does not prepare anybody for electronic scholarship practices.
- Mickey Schafer
The current ONLINE Magazine has a good article on the (lack of) brain-research evidence for revolutionary generational change (but some bigtime gurus make loads of money selling the concept, so...) Students failing to understand the reasons for original writing & good research: Nothing new, and a continual struggle.
- Walt Crawford
seems to me that article was talking out of both sides of its mouth. brain as plastic and flexible + differing generational experiences (which the article did not really dispute) = different generation, different brain. that the changes aren't GENETIC (which of course they're not) doesn't mean they're not THERE. the real criticism in the article is of the notion that experiences differ super-markedly based on age group.
- D0r0th34
It would be nice if the research on plagiarism within Writing Studies had been acknowledged. Rebecca Moore Howard's early work on patchwriting could have been useful to the conversation. The article references one of her books, but that's about it. Once again, the disciplines aren't talking to each other. So frustrating.
- Katy S
Trying to avoid threadjacking, but: Seems to me the Online article (which I read last night) was arguing for "generational" differences--but ones that aren't age-related so much as recent-experience related. The author *wants* there to be big generational differences (she makes that clear)--but the evidence is a little weak. (And I agree that plagiarism and IP issues shouldn't be conflated.)
- Walt Crawford
Walt - I agree. The article doesn't seem to make that distinction in the same way the blog post does. It's more a matter of differences in the way differences in technology change the way plagiarism is done. Also, the idea of plagiarism is a western cultural (and some would say capitalistic) concept. Different cultures have different ideas about appropriation and context in writing. But, that's another issue.
- Katy S
The issue of bad teaching regarding what plagiarism is, how to avoid it, how other folk's' work is used in scholarly communication--properly and not--has nothing thing to do with generational issues. As an undergrad at 40 I faced the same issues as the student who mentioned the lack of instruction in the article. Everyone said it was bad, don't do it, etc. and I *understood* the multiple reasons for that (Western/capitalist) attitude but it still sure as heck did not help me understand how NOT to do it.
- Mar₭ Liŋdŋer
And there--the cultural differences--are where IP might rear its ugly head. Cf. Tom Lehrer, "Lobachevsky" (spelling uncertain). The difference between research and plagiarism? For music, the difference between inspiration and copying? (Cf. Peter Schickele...) Not always simple questions. (I was about to say "Never simple questions," but since I've been ranting about universalisms...)
- Walt Crawford
Certainly plagiarism is technologically easier to do nowadays but that too is not relevant to generational issues.
- Mar₭ Liŋdŋer
And, oddly, it's not just that plagiarism is easier--it's that detecting (and, in my opinion, *over*-detecting) plagiarism is easier. (Over-detecting? When turnitin and other services yield results that, say, a sentence or two matches a source. If it's a paragraph or more, uncredited, that's a different story.)
- Walt Crawford
Very true, Walt! But that is one topic I am going to try very hard to stay out of.
- Mar₭ Liŋdŋer
Threadjack: Should I not have linked to this thread in a comment I just put on the original ACRLog post?
- Stephen Francoeur
Doesn't matter to me, Stephen, but then my feed is public. Can't/won't answer for anyone else, of course.
- Mar₭ Liŋdŋer
Is this is the Online Mag cite? -- "Digital Natives and Immigrants," Herther, Nancy K.. Online, Nov/Dec2009, Vol. 33 Issue 6, p14-21
- Joe
that should be it, yes
- D0r0th34
I'm going to try Turnitin this semester for the first time in the 10 years I've been at my current position. I've avoided it b/c it seems a bad model for dealing with scientific prose -- now, I'm curious to see how the program stacks up to my sense of what plagiarism may or may not be.
- Mickey Schafer
Joe: That's the citation. And, of course, you can always move forward to my column... (Or, sigh, to Peter Jacso's final column, after 15 years.)
- Walt Crawford
Mark -- you (and others) have made a good point about instructors failing to teach the "why" -- the cynical part of me suspects they don't know it or have absorbed the plagiarism-is-evil message without examining where it comes from. Purdue OWL used to have a great image that showed writing paradoxes encountered by new academic writers (like "say it in your own words" but "use expert...
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- Mickey Schafer
Mickey - Will you be sending all papers through turnitin or just ones you suspect of plagiarism? Do you plan to tell students you are doing this? There are a lot of ethical implications to using programs like this one. One that concerns many people is that each paper submitted to Turnitin is then stored and used by the company. Basically, they are profiting from the students' work, often without their consent.
- Katy S
Hi, Katy. I have every intention of telling students that I'm using it -- and I was planning on all work being submitted that way. There is a big push in my academic unit to go as paperless as possible, so I thought I'd try this out for one semester. I did know that Turnitin keeps the work -- it becomes part of the electronic record, and since one of the more common forms of cheating is...
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- Mickey Schafer
The why and how are both really important. The classes I teach, we get students who - in the plaintive words of one - "took engineering so I wouldn't have to write essays!" They don't know what citing *is*, they don't know why it's important, they don't know when to do it, and they don't know how to do it. So if we just launch into "Remember to cite and your lecturers want you using APA" it's worse than useless.
- Deborah Fitchett
Well, yes, it is an archive, but it is their archive that they use for their business. It isn't that they are publishing the students' papers, but they do profit from them. Rebecca Moore Howard, who I mentioned above, has created a number of bibliographies related to writing studies http://wrt-howard.syr.edu/bibs.... There are multiple bibs regarding plagiarism, including one for...
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- Katy S
One of the pedagogical problems I have with Turnitin and similar services is that some faculty use it to avoid having to teach about citation and plagiarism themselves. Instead of dealing with the conventions of writing and citing within their respective disciplines, they avoid the hard work of teaching students how to successfully complete the assignments for their courses and simply...
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- Katy S
Katy -- honestly, neither do I. But after a decade's refusing to use it with the intuitive claim that it won't work for my students, I feel like I owe the whole evidence-based movement something meatier. My plan is to give it a try for one semester and see what happens. I don't know that I'll submit an IRB for it (I don't know that I need to, but I'll check this out next week), but I'd...
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- Mickey Schafer
Katy and Deborah -- I totally agree that there is a developmental process with citation use and scholarly writing, regardless the discipline. It's why I have one of the more lenient set of practices amongst my colleagues. I discuss unintentional versus intentional plagiarism, I give NG (no grade) instead of F when work comes in clearly plagiarized, but also clearly not intentionally so...
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- Mickey Schafer
I'd love to find a short treatment of the philosophical/historical differences behind the various citation styles -- does anyone have a recommendation?
- Mickey Schafer
Mickey, thanks for the shameless plug. I'm printing it & will look it over this evening (hopefully). Most of my writing is humanities-based but I do a lot of reading in the sciences, too, so hopefully I can find the boundary crossing/applicable material.
- Mar₭ Liŋdŋer
Hope it works for you, Mark -- feel free to send comments my way!
- Mickey Schafer
Mickey - check out this bibliography on citations: http://wrt-howard.syr.edu/Bibs... . The titles by Bazerman are about APA. The Connors' articles have a broader focus. There are several other articles covering citation history in the list, too.
- Katy S
Thanks, Katy!
- Mickey Schafer
Wow, it's so gratifying to read through so many comments! Though I think I've unintentionally sown confusion with the title of my post. The original article by Lori Power didn't specifically pin problems with understanding plagiarism on this current generation of college students. I gave my blog post its title mostly to highlight that undergrads are new to academia, which of course has...
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- Maura Smale
Hi Maura! I think it is important to remind academics -- particularly the newest ones like grad students -- that undergrads are new to the process. A point that is less well represented and that we all tend to ignore is that the vast majority of our students don't want to become academics -- I think this becomes a kind of cultural problem b/c we tend to treat undergrads like newly...
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- Mickey Schafer
In a meeting a tutor- who had just left legal practice- said that plagiarism was not an issue in 'real world' situations.
- Pete
That's my experience, too, Pete. In fact, Walt Crawford remarked on a discussion on "self plagiarism" that only in academics is that a crime...in the real world, it's considered a smart survival strategy! (Did I get that close enough, Walt?)
- Mickey Schafer
I can't get to the original article b/c it costs $$. Sigh. But the study referred to in the abstract sounds interesting, and not so different in results from one called "Your Brain on Google" which also found that adults who were more experienced searchers used more parts of their brains while using the net.
- Mickey Schafer
Mickey: It's more than close enough. For freelance writers, reusing your own material is absolutely a survival strategy. Sometimes it's explicit (my Online column is typically based on Cites & Insights essays), sometimes just done. Usually, you're aiming at different audiences or in different media. And it's not plagiarism: It's creative recycling.
- Walt Crawford
Which is not to say that I don't understand why creative recycling is frowned upon in scholarly articles and actual research. Different conditions for different kinds of writing.
- Walt Crawford
One of the things I always loved about reading American Scientist is that the articles are written by the scientists themselves -- but for an educated lay audience. That is certainly an instance of creative re-purposing. Of course, there's no credit given for such activity (I don't think those kinds of publications count toward tenure, for instance), but they probably do segue into...
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- Mickey Schafer
See Also… » Clueless faculty and uppity librarians - http://stevelawson.name/seealso...
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Looking at the recent articles from Inside Higher Ed that I first saw here on FF (the Syracuse storage kerfuffle and the "Reviving the Academic Library By Reducing It to a Warehouse" opinion piece), and offering advice for faculty and librarians.
- s t e v e
from Bookmarklet
I like this a lot. But. There's a well-known disconnect between what people DO and what they SAY THEY DO, especially when the question is values-laden. I'm quite willing to accept that people still browse physical stacks -- but I'm NOT willing to accept that only on the evidence that they say they do. Show me da numbers, please.
- D0r0th34
I'd like to see research on this, too. Hell, I'd like to *do* research on this. Part of the problem, though, is that it is so subjective. What is a "good" number of people browsing? How many person-hours? How many browses per stroll?
- s t e v e
I think this could be one of those cases where we look outside library and perhaps even academic for the best way to do a survey/study and talk to business that have succeeded. what is it they do that lets them know what the customer wants. i think they do that aspect a little bit better than academia sometimes
- Sir Shuping
I left a comment on the post (I know, I'm such a Luddite). As to Dorothea's comment: It's hard to demonstrate browsing numbers, 'cause most users (myself included) really do put the books back on the shelves. But, you know, if your key users are saying "We think X is important," it's worth listening even if they can't "prove" that they do X often enough to suit you.
- Walt Crawford
I left my comments on the blog, but I'll summarize: observe, observe, observe. Watch people in the field. Ask them questions at the point of contact.
- cecily
Cecily, I absolutely agree, and would like to do more of that. But I think it would still be a good start for those "libraries are turning into malls" profs to just ask a dozen students about how they use the library and take a walk through and observe informally what goes on in the evening. I'd like to set up a real study, but the average pissed-off prof could spare a half hour to do those two things.
- s t e v e
If your library is designed such that there are obvious passpoints (in my lib, the elevator lobbies), have a student sit there and do counts. It's a start.
- D0r0th34
Agreed, Steve. We all need to watch, and listen, and do it with open minds -- all of us, librarians and faculty. I had to take a step back after realizing that our faculty really don't *get* that we have 50,000 online periodicals to compensate for the 1000 that we canceled in print over the last 15 years. They just see the cancellations. I had to really stop myself from believing that...
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- Jenica
Dorothea, when we conducted focus groups recently about how students do research (and these were professionally proctored focus groups) the students, particularly in the humanities, overwhelmingly volunteered stacks browsing as a preferred method.
- lris' ghost
Okay. Now show me what they DO.
- D0r0th34
I'm having trouble understanding the rub, I think. Do you mean that unless we see them opening books and glancing at introductions, they aren't actually browsing?
- lris' ghost
No, the rub is that they've been told over and over again that Browsing Is A Good Thing, Good Students Browse Library Stacks, so if they're asked, they'll say they do that -- even when they haven't darkened the door of a library as long as they've been on campus. It doesn't matter who proctors the focus group, or how the question is worded. (Actually, that's not true. If you ask them "when was the last time you..." I believe some of the "pseudovirtue effect" goes away.)
- D0r0th34
Even there, though, we are in Annie Hall territory. "I browse the stacks all the time! At least once a semester!" "He never browses the stacks, like maybe once a semester."
- s t e v e
I guess to some degree, I don't give a damn how much they browse. If part of what they want in a library is a crapload of book stacks, let's put that on the table as something they want--for WHATEVER perverted reason--and decide together what else has to go so they can have the stacks.
- s t e v e
There are lots of unquantifiable things about the research process, which is why I think that overarching point about dialog between librarians and researchers is important -- and that both sides have to start with the assumption that what the other side says is true.
- lris' ghost
And, see, that's where we'll have to agree to disagree, Steve. I don't think it makes sense to maintain a largely-unused book warehouse just to give them a chance to feel virtuous and smart. If they're really-truly using it, fine, no worries. If not, there are better uses for resources IMO. (An interesting gedankenexperiment might be to announce that library stacks are going closed. If there's no similar uproar, that sez something about actual stacks usage and "browsing" behaviors.)
- D0r0th34
No, I think I have to agree with Steve here. Put it on the table for discussion. And then, make it clear the realities of what will have to be sacrificed in order to maintain the book warehouse. In that reality-based scenario, it would be both interesting and valuable to find out what the researcher really wanted -- do they want a warehouse MORE than they want the other services the...
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- Jenica
Steve didn't say "lets give them a crapload of stacks." He said "let's talk together about what it would mean to maintain that." Dialog and trust are important. Scare tactics and superiority, not so much.
- lris' ghost
Erm? I asked for DATA, Iris. Jenica, I'm a little dubious that the Neems of this world will sit tight long enough for an explanation of budget realities -- but you know more about that than I do.
- D0r0th34
And maybe here's one reason librarians get dismissed as irrelevant by others: When librarians themselves refer to book collections as "book warehouses" and seem to be looking for any excuse to get rid of them. So the humanities scholars say "Screw you: You don't care about us" and the scientists never cared for the librarians anyway. Remember: One accountant in the provost's office can handle all the database subscriptions quite nicely.
- Walt Crawford
Sorry if that comes off a little strident, but I do wonder about the extent to which librarians assume that nobody other than librarians listens to them trashing library collections and traditional services...or responds negatively.
- Walt Crawford
Walt, my basement and second story stacks ARE a warehouse. We provide access to the materials, but no ancilliary services in that environment. I'm not ashamed of that. It's truth. The first floor is where we provide additional services beyond maintaining the book collection. I'm using casual language and not taking care with perceptions because I believed myself to be among friends. You...
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- Jenica
Walt, I've spent my entire career having the services I provide trashed, including (especially!) by other librarians. You went to the wrong librarian with that particular criticism. No sacred cows.
- D0r0th34
Dorothea, I don't know that I've got faculty quite like Neem, so my perspectives are probably a bit different. And in the current NYS budget reality... everyone's listening. So I suspect we have a moment in time in which some key colleagues can be brought to understand where we're coming from, and in which we need to be listening especially closely to their concerns as we make decisions about the future.
- Jenica
Yes, I think there is one sacred cow that I'm trying to deflate a little, and that's data. I'm all for it, but I also know that there are limitations, and that subjective experiences are not always quantifiable. Which brings me back to dialog and trust.
- lris' ghost
I suspect there will always be Neems out there, and I think we shouldn't waste a whole lot of time trying to appease them. I think the overall point is that we all--and it's apparent that this goes for intra-librarian relations, too--need to try and understand each other better and assume good faith on all sides.
- s t e v e
What we need is to set up wildlife trail monitors in the library: http://www.trailmaster.com/tm1550p... - catch 'em in the act. Or not.
- Wayne Loftus
Coolio, Jenica. I sure hope the Neems are rare, and I have every faith that you choose your moments well. Iris, subjectivity is okay, but observation is necessary to get beyond common human self-delusions, social white lies (including those told in hopes of supporting friendly librarians!), and suchlike. (I think it's handwashing where these studies are particularly salient... people...
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- D0r0th34
My colleagues have heard it a million times from me: RFID all students upon acceptance. ;-)
- lris' ghost
hee! and put keyloggers on all their computers! (no, of COURSE I'm not serious)
- D0r0th34
Hell with the students, chip the faculty. Find out how much work we _really_ do... :-)
- Cameron Neylon
Oh! And no more sinks!! People don't wash their hand anyway.
- lris' ghost
SO. How about browsing the hybrid print/online environment. Anyone have any success stories?
- s t e v e
Give it a year or two, Steve. I think the wide-angle catalog-plus mashup-like interfaces currently being built (including, for bias disclosure, at MPOW) have real potential.
- D0r0th34
also, Cecily++; go read her comment on Steve's blog if you haven't already. Ethnography ftw.
- D0r0th34
Thanks, Dorothea.
- cecily
Hey there, Wayne. *waves*
- marthalib
A lot of humanities and social science scholars who may not do a ton of research on a daily basis are very worried that a major way they encounter and seek information is being not only dissed but dismantled. This isn't about undergraduate behavior, it's a fear on the part of scholars (not at libraries like mine, but at research libraries) that the way they find things will disappear....
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- barbara fister
This quote I just happened across seems apropos in light of Barbara's most recent comment: :It takes courage to work in new ways. Particularly with your immediate colleagues and friends. Yet so needed in the pioneering and evolutionary time we live in when we must risk the letting go of the old to find our way to the added benefit of the new." - spotted here: http://tennesonwoolf.blogspot.com/2009...
- cecily
40 comments and we have yet to address one of the most important aspects of my post: the cartoons!
- s t e v e
the cartoons are awesome! Encore, encore!
- D0r0th34
Thank you. As you were.
- s t e v e
The cartoons were my favorite part. Although as I'm leaning towards looking at what academic librarians are forced to deal with, I appreciated the take you presented in the post as well.
- Derrick
in my new library of ~10,000 books, the stacks are closed. I see students hovering by the door to them, wondering if they can go in. (we offer to get books for them). I'm currently spending a lot of staff time getting the stacks ready for browsing / public access. We have a small, but meaningful collection of journo, photo, advertising books collocated, and I want students / fac to have access. I'm also doing a lot of weeding.
- Stephanie_Thankful
Closed stacks remind me of an engineering postgrad who couldn't find a book (it had been misshelved) so suggested that we gate all the stacks and then give card access to approved borrowers to their specific areas of interest. I didn't have the heart to point out that it was a 50/50 chance that it was a staff member who'd misshelved the book anyway...
- Deborah Fitchett
Late back to the party: Jenica: Your stack levels are browsable stacks with no internal services--certainly not unusual for academic libraries. (Of the nine tiers in the Doe library, at least when I was there, exactly one had any service points.) I dunno. Maybe over the past months/years, I've seen enough academic librarians turning up noses at public libraries *and* enough librarians...
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- Walt Crawford
Just strolled through the stacks (we only have about 95K books and serve 4-6K students) and there were 7 students either browsing or looking for something.
- John Dupuis
when we let one of our senior faculty back into our stacks to look for something she came out saying "wow! I didn't know you had all that stuff!" One of my student staffers said "I bet circulation would increase if we let students back into the stacks." True, this is anecdotal, and clearly my library has stayed relevant for some time without open stacks, but I'm sensing a lot of push to open my stacks up. (which I will).
- Stephanie_Thankful
Walt - honestly this is why when (if) I go back to working in a library I am thinking I will work in a public for the first time in my career. I'm really not liking a lot of the stuff that's happening in academic libraries of late - but maybe that's also because I didn't achieve all I wanted to when I worked in one. But on topic, my name is Fiona, and I love to browse the stacks.
- Fiona Bradley
(It's about me, so it's anecdotal.) As a undergrad, I preferred to browse the stacks. Yes, I could've done a catalog search. But I didn't know any fields well enough to know what to look for. Catalog to get the general area, then browsing for discovery. By browsing I found this odd little book about mid-19th century belief in psychosomatic skin markings (stars, etc.) that gave me the start to a big Scarlet Letter paper that impressed the lit lecturer.
- Betsy (bentley) Vera
Actually, Betsy, I think when it's "about you" it's anecdotal; when it's "about me," it is timeless universal truth.
- s t e v e
Okay, then. It's universal truth.
- Betsy (bentley) Vera
Simonizing to point out that there have been several interesting comments on the post itself.
- s t e v e
BTW there was a forum held this week in order to gather input from the University community on the future of SU's Bird Library. I attended and the room was packed with undergraduate and graduate students, faculty members (including at least one department chair), and library staff. The Dean of Libraries was in the audience. The discussion was very lively. In general, people felt as if the library had not consulted the community on the changes it was making in regards to the use of library space.
- Jill Hurst-Wahl
We are have some space constraints on campus, so several wondered if space in other buildings could be used for some of the services that are currently provided in the library (e.g., study space, reference services, etc.). For more info, read http://media.www.dailyorange.com/media...
- Jill Hurst-Wahl
BTW one of the suggestions I made was holding part of new faculty orientation in the Library, specifically part of the progressive dinner. (Yup, I suggested eating in the library.) If faculty are suppose to suggest books, point out holes in the collection, etc., then let's find ways to get faculty in the building! Might as well start with new faculty.
- Jill Hurst-Wahl
Oh...one faculty member said that he tells his students to go to Cornell (one hour away) to do research! That definitely shows a lack of faith in the SU library.
- Jill Hurst-Wahl
More SLA news if ya care. "When asked directly whether or not they would vote in favor of the newly proposed name, 62 of the 67 respondents [PAM Division] said they would not vote for the change. However, of this opposed group in the following question, 75% answered in favor of a name change, just not to the currently proposed name."...
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- Joe
Today's Mother Goose & Grimm Comic Strip - ArcaMax Publishing - http://www.arcamax.com/motherg...
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Nice sentiment. Too bad it completely misses the point. Also, I don't have an ebook reader and I'm not planning on buying one for a few years.
- DJF
I didn't really look at it as a comparison between the two things. I just thought it was cool another comic strip picked up "hey libraries still exist"
- Sir Shuping
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Curious Squirrel (from "Blame It On The Martians") - http://www.blameitonthemartians.com/2009...
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o hai!
- D0r0th34
Hey kid. I know what you're thinking. When you grow up, you're gonna get to do everything you want, and life will just be awesome. But what you don't know is that right now, in childhood, you're having the best days of your life. Really! Someday, you'll be lying in bed next to your wife, waking up from a bad dream involving the house, your...
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Long posts on FF? Guess they don't work either.
- FF's Bubba of Arizona
I love my grandma... We drove down the coast to see her and when I walked in the door, she handed me a MS LX-3000 USB headset and said get me Skype before you leave today. She also handed me
a
list of her friends from
bridge, poker and some relatives skype names... She rocks :)
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Hehe, even my Mum still doesn't get computers very well. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Well technology in general really. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
OMG! What a cool grandma!
- rowlikeagirl
More of a tech-head that my husband! Very cool!
- Jill Hurst-Wahl
but I'm not going to drive 4 hours *and* pay over $200 out-of-pocket to speak for an hour at something I didn't propose to speak at.
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I learned last year - as AZ resident, have to register for at least one day of conference as a speaker. I accepted that since I'd put in a proposal - but you were asked to speak and they didn't offer to cover? Nice.
- ÉllbeeÇee
we got it all sorted out - that's what they said and they misunderstood my initial reply, so we're all good now. Guess I'd better write a talk!
- Ruth, just Ruth
from email
Josh, thanks for the Argyle Signal before I left the house today.
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roflmao
- Mary Carmen
'Hello, can I talk to you about Satan?'
- Pete
*dead*
- aden
i love the prop.
- Kendra <3 Three Lions
Bad boy! Send back my trident!
- awd
*bumping for some more argyle action*
- aden
This is a must for the men of FF calendar. Or something like this. Including pitchfork.
- Junebug (aka Sarah Jill)
Our Guile has worked splendidly! Mwahaahhahaha!
- Morgan Haley
All hail my Satanic argyle brother, Steve Lawson!
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YOU OWE ME A KEYBOARD
- Mary Carmen
also, you can't do Satanic......too cute for it.
- Mary Carmen
*bestows dark blessings upon Brother Neff*
- s t e v e
josh could you please recommend friends to me????
- ffcode
Do you mean recommend people for you to follow? or recommend people follow you?
- josh neff, geek at large
recommend people for me to follow
- ffcode
But are you wearing Prada?
- Joe
ffcode, I'd say anyone I follow is worth following. I have great taste, you know.
- josh neff, geek at large
What's a prada, Joe? Is that some animal from Australia?
- josh neff, geek at large
All you Friday rockers have a fangirl.
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Iris, I love ya, darlin'!
- josh neff, geek at large
Iris wins.
- Laura B.
*waits for Iris to throw her copy of the new APA on stage, with URL of her Libguides tucked inside*
- Rochelle Rochelle
I want to double-like this.
- Jason Griffey
I think all librarians should have this as their desktop image. :)
- Archangel ωαřмaiden
If you post a rocker picture, I'd be your fangirl too, Griffey. #nopressure_yeahright
- lris' ghost
I was going to say that Iris needed to post a rocker picture herself, but then I remembered that she is out in front of this trend as usual, and in fact hands out rocker photos of herself to her fans all the time: https://apps.carleton.edu/campus...
- s t e v e
86-year-old WWII vet on gay marriage: "what do you think I fought for in Omaha Beach?" - http://www.boingboing.net/2009...
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This guy is a hero.
- Stephen Francoeur
Wow. Great video, thank you for sharing it.
- Laura H.
Outstanding!
- josh neff, geek at large
I'm just seeing this now, but it's worth bumping for anyone else who missed it. Thanks.
- laura x
TH FTW - use up old SLA logo gear by giving to new splinter org: Secret Librarian Assn - for those of us who ARE librarians
Jill Hurst-Wahl and Richard Akerman liked this
Great idea.
- carolh
Greg would like to get Uncontrolled Vocabulary started up again, just to have a forum for saying "AskPro" five times fast. Good call, SLA. - http://www.facebook.com/profile...
Jill Hurst-Wahl, Christina Pikas, Jàson Puçkett and 7 other people liked this
how about one special broadcast of UV by, for, and about asspros?
- Laura Norvig
Last night I asked and she said "Yes!" Soon I shall be Mr. Sara Quinn Thompson. We are engaged! :D.
John Dupuis, Emma, Haggis (Sean Loyless) and 24 other people liked this
That would be Librarienne to you all here in friendfeed http://friendfeed.com/librari...
- Mar₭ Liŋdŋer
Congratulations!
- Jenica
Thanks, Jenica!
- Mar₭ Liŋdŋer
Congratulations! :)
- Laura B.
Thanks, LB and Jill!
- Mar₭ Liŋdŋer
Congratulations!
- Stephen Francoeur
congrats!
- Sir Shuping
Congratulations! What wonderful news. I wish you both a lifetime of happiness together.
- Meredith
Thanks, Stephen, Sir Shuping and Meredith!
- Mar₭ Liŋdŋer
I'm very happy for you both.
- s t e v e
THAT'S AWESOME!
- Christina Pikas
Thanks, Steve and Christina!
- Mar₭ Liŋdŋer
Yay! Congrats to both of you!
- Kårín Dalzĭel
Congrats.
- Walt Crawford
Thanks, Walt!
- Mar₭ Liŋdŋer
By the by everyone, Sara is not ignoring anybody but is involved in meetings & such all day with the Mortenson Associates so is mostly offline.
- Mar₭ Liŋdŋer
Congratulations!
- Mark "DerBingle" J
Thanks, Karin and Mark!
- Mar₭ Liŋdŋer
Congratulations!
- Betsy (bentley) Vera
Thanks, Betsy!
- Mar₭ Liŋdŋer
Congrats, Mark. Good stuff.
- Greg Schwartz
Thanks, Greg! And if I missed thanking anyone I am sorry; not intentional. Thank you, all!
- Mar₭ Liŋdŋer
congratulations to you both!!!
- Stephanie_Thankful
Thanks, Stephanie!
- Mar₭ Liŋdŋer
Congratulations, Mark!
- Emma
Thanks, Emma!
- Mar₭ Liŋdŋer
My best to you both!
- laura x
Thanks, Laura!
- Mar₭ Liŋdŋer
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