"Winning sites on the web almost always have terrible design and terrible logos. Unless I define terrible as 'not working'. In which case the design is not terrible. In fact, it works so well it now seems to be clear that clunky, engineering-built design might just be the secret to success online." - Jim Norris

While Seth puts it a little awkwardly, it's true that good interaction design is about understanding how people think and how people feel, rather than how people think they feel, or how they feel they think. - Kevin Fox

So why does Gmail still have the Beta tag? - Ross Miller

@Ross: Because. :P Actually (can't do a line-break apparently), it's probably so they don't have to be liable for data loss. - Voyagerfan5761

There's no good reason in the world for Gmail to still have the beta tag. It was supposed to have gone away a long time ago. - Paul Buchheit

If the winning sites supposedly have terrible design, either design is unimportant or Seth's criteria for design are misplaced. I suspect the latter. - Neil Kandalgaonkar

I agree. A lot of people are just using the wrong criteria to judge design. I remember reading some designer's blog where she was talking about how bad the Gmail design was, and I had to use 'view source' in order to actually read it, because she had chosen to use light gray on dark gray with some tiny font, and while it looked nice, it was completely unreadable. - Paul Buchheit

@Paul: Google doesn't have you prodding them to take it off. :P - Voyagerfan5761

Valleywag is watching as well. Paul gets quoted: http://valleywag.com/357811/ - Louis Gray