I understand the need to aid auto, but this doesn't sit well with me. Warranties don't sell cars. Chrysler' going to fall in my opinion.
- James Jackson
from Bookmarklet
"Two weeks ago Hulu called and told us their content partners were asking them to remove Hulu from boxee. we tried (many times) to plead the case for keeping Hulu on boxee, but on Friday of this week, in good faith, we will be removing it."
- Dylan Parker
So it's basically revision3, CBS, and ABC now? Is there some compelling content I don't know about.
- Andrew
I'm bummed about it, but definitely not a dealbreaker for me. Most of my content comes from auto-downloaded tv shows via torrents.
- Dylan Parker
and content providers wonder why people use bittorent, its because you make it so difficult to watch stuff legally the way consumer want to, brililant move, why don't you just shoot yours self in the foot, it would make more sense
- Kim Landwehr
WTF?! Less ad revenue to Hulu from me, I guess.
- jakebf
Back to the land of no commercials...
- Robert DeBord
I'm so disappointed in this - Hulu has been successful, by in large because of its accessibility through multiple platforms. As their "content providers" carve those outlets away in an attempt to force them through the portal, all they're going to do is alienate their fairly savvy audience.
- Jennifer Dittrich
another retarded move by the networks... this is what--the 12billionth example of how they just don't get it?
- Joshua Schnell
god this is just plain stupid Hulu, I guess we know who's brain has really turned into mush.
- Bill Pennington
from twhirl
What a shame. I guess I'll have to stick to watching commercial free TV downloaded to XBMC on my xbox
- Chris Brakebill
This sucks. Watched the first season of Fringe on boxee via Hulu.
- James Jackson
A female graduate student at Virginia Tech was killed Wednesday night when a man she knew attacked her with a knife and decapitated her, a school spokesman said.
- Intense News
Not sure if liked is an accurate adjective, but it's news.
- James Jackson
2. If you are seeing too many things, turn off "friend of a friend." Click "hide" on one of the "friend of" items. Then click it again to see the options to hide all items like it.
- Robert Scoble
3. Hide is your friend. #2 already shows you how you can use hide in one way, but I use it to hide all Twitter messages that don't have a comment or a like. This makes friendfeed much more useful. Also, all hidden items are at the bottom of each page.
- Robert Scoble
Anyone else? Please add to the list. Lost is on, so I'll see how many I can bang out during commercial breaks.
- Robert Scoble
There are many, many good intro to FF articles. Zee has written several
- FFing Enigma
So is this going to be another 25 things you didn't know about...post ? ;-)
- Jeff P. Henderson
Joining rooms can often cause lots of noise also if you have them showing up in your main feed.
- Jeff P. Henderson
I just discovered "Rooms" today. If there's a particular topic you're interested in for example: TWIT, iPhone, Twitter, Identica, etc. - hop on over to that room - and start up or contribute to existing conversation. It's addictive!
- Cole Orton
Creating lists and grouping your friends is a good way to cut down on noise or see a focused set of posts.
- Jeff P. Henderson
4. You can "group" your users together into things called "lists." For instance, if you think I'm a noisy asshole, you can remove me from your home feed and put me into a list called "noisy assholes." That way you can see all your family and friends and not me. Of course, please do come over and check out your noisy asshole list, because sometimes we do say something interesting. I hope. :-)
- Robert Scoble
5. You will, most certainly, find your productivity decrease. Though your ability to be entertained and waste on the Internet will surge! :)
- Jeremy Toeman
5. This is a forum but with a couple of differences from forums you've used before. First, moderation is totally decentralized -- you can delete comments under your items, I can delete comments under mine. If you see spam or other stuff that's not good you can delete those by using the "More" menu. Second, everyone's view is different based on who they follow. So, if it's boring here it's your own fault! You aren't following exciting enough people!
- Robert Scoble
6. Items with graphics and photos generally get more likes than items without.
- Robert Scoble
7. Rooms are very cool and it will take you a while to discover why. Hint: you can build your own ego room, and bring in RSS feeds from search engines and news services. I've built a room for Davos/World Economic Forum, for instance, where you can see this in action: http://friendfeed.com/rooms...
- Robert Scoble
8. If you say "bacon" in your posts you will get some likes. People here go crazy for bacon. Oh, and if Tad starts a meme you have two choices: block everyone who participates or join in for the next day or two!
- Robert Scoble
9: Most of your friends will not get friendfeed. That won't stop me from talking about it, though.
- Robert Scoble
RE: #9 Or the third option, hide memes on an as needed basis. Some are more enjoyable than others.
- FFing Enigma
10. Make sure you add all your services to friendfeed. Including Twitter. Let your followers hide items or services they don't care about.
- Robert Scoble
11. To see cool stuff, click on "Best of" on the top right, but note that behaves differently depending on where you are (each list will have a different "best of" and each room, too.
- Robert Scoble
10a. Everybody expects everybody to hide services. It's not rude to use the "Hide" feature on your friends' stuff.
- Bruce Lewis
12. You can see everything you've liked or commented on, and so can all your followers (just visit the "Me" page and look in top right for the links -- or visit someone else's friendfeed account and see the same links on THEIR account!)
- Robert Scoble
"Like" means you like that a person shared something, not that you necessarily like the news itself. But for the benefit of other new friendfeed users you might comment to explain your "Like" for a plane crash item.
- Bruce Lewis
13. Looking for more people to follow? Try http://friendfeed.com/setting... but note that the recommended items will change depending on who you've followed. So, if you follow noisy assholes, it will probably suggest other noisy assholes for you to follow. :-)
- Robert Scoble
14. It is OK to ignore trolls who are trying to disrupt the conversation like Chris White is here. But if they get really out of hand block them. You do that by unfollowing them (visit their page and you'll see that link at the top of the page). After unfollowing them you'll see an option to block them. Blocking them keeps them from seeing your items and will remove everything they do from your view.
- Robert Scoble
17. If enough people comment simultaneously, the system acts a little wonky.
- Jeremy Toeman
(Note: Chris is OK, he's just playing along here, but I do block other people who get out of hand).
- Robert Scoble
18. If you hover over someone's name with your mouse you'll see whether or not they are following you (and whether or not you are following them). I can see here that Chris White isn't following me. Which means he is bad boy and should be sent to bed without dinner.
- Robert Scoble
26. Friendfeed commentors are often so eager to add to lists sequentially they barely even notice obvious gaps in list numbering (which, you'll also notice is manual, because nobody taught the google guys about the OL tag)
- Jeremy Toeman
19. Everything on friendfeed builds a feed you can subscribe to in Google Reader or other RSS readers.
- Robert Scoble
Jeremy loves messing with me. I'll get him back. :-)
- Robert Scoble
21. Morton Fox has liked 44,943 things. I have no idea how he does it cause I like a lot of things and I've only done 15,000 or so. http://friendfeed.com/mortonf... is his like feed.
- Robert Scoble
15. (yup, that's where we actually left off) It's okay to "like" something distasteful. "Like" really just means "others should read this too". It's also quite overused, much as the word "like" is overused in conversation by anyone who born after the 70s.
- Jeremy Toeman
22. You can see anyone's real-time feed, which shows you what is actually coming into their account at that time. Here's mine: http://friendfeed.com/scoblei... warning, it'll make you dizzy.
- Robert Scoble
A good first lesson is; there is no chronological Friendfeed. Don't think you can keep up. Ride it out and enjoy.
- Andrew Smith
23. The "Everyone" tab is useful, but only if you figure out that friendfeed has an interesting search engine underneath. For instance, you can go to the Everyone tab and search only YouTube videos. (Click Everyone, then search for say "Daft Punk" and use the "Advanced" feature in search to constrain it to only YouTube).
- Robert Scoble
Andrew is right. Don't worry about missing stuff. I call it "media snacking." If I have time, I'll dip in here to engage. I'll check the "Best of" pages first, though, to catch up on the popular stuff (usually bacon or a photo meme).
- Robert Scoble
16. Comments cannot be nested, nor can you link to a comment, or even like a comment. You can add another comment and write "+1" to indicate you like another comment, or a higher number, such as "+10" if you very much like a comment. "+100" is to be reserved for the ultimate in commenting. Do not be silly with the "+" system, as this is worth a -4 in case you need to make Friendfeed saving throws later on. Instead, be wise and prudent with your +1s, and they will become your ally for years to come.
- Jeremy Toeman
We never talk much about the search feature. Anything outstanding about it worth mentioning?
- Xavier Vespa
xavier: search is a great way to find friendfeed items that you have put into the system. Click on "Me" and then search. Here's everything in my account that includes the words "how to save journalism:" http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Robert Scoble
xavier: here's another thing search does very well. Go to "Everyone" and search on something. Now click "advanced" search. I want to know about all the BarCamps that everyone has added to their Upcoming.org site. Here's the search for that: http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Robert Scoble
Unfortunately everyone is now trying out search and it goes down. It's the only thing on friendfeed that is not reliable yet. They are working on it, though. When it comes up, another thing I like about search is you can see items just from one data type. Here are all the items from just Upcoming.org: http://friendfeed.com/...
- Robert Scoble
Search should include rooms but it doesn't.
- Andrew Smith
31. If you get swept away into friendfeedland, don't try to bring others with you. They will mock and ridicule, and no matter what you say they just "won't get it." This is perfectly okay, they may change - or not - but it shouldn't impact your friendfeeding. Don't ever ask real world friends if they saw something you "liked". They didn't. Ever.
- Jeremy Toeman
Chris: you gave bad advice when you said to unsubscribe from someone if they are noisy. That's really stupid. Put them into a list instead and remove them from your main list. That way you'll be able to check on them from time to time and see if anything they did is useful. Also if things are noisy due to me it's probably due to the friend-of-a-friend feature and you can turn that off without unsubscribing (I have turned it off on my account, those hidden items are at the bottom of the page).
- Robert Scoble
Also, that way they won't think you're a jerk for unfollowing them.
- Robert Scoble
Chris is right. You can also edit your comments, or your posts. Which is often useful. But you can only delete other people's posts, you can't edit THEIR comments. And you can only delete comments under items you've started (I could delete Chris's comments, for instance, here, but not on other people's items).
- Robert Scoble
@Robert that's like leaving the Christian Rock station as one of your presets just on the off chance they'll accidentally play Sympathy for the Devil. sure, it *could* happen, but the odds suck.
- Jeremy Toeman
A product made by former Google employees with unreliable search? That's a little ironic. :)
- David Potts
David: search on real time items is a pretty tough problem. Even Google hasn't attempted that one yet. Here's a little test for you. Add a weird word to a comment. Say your son's name. Mine is Milan Scoble. Now wait a minute. Search on that name and you'll find that post in the search results. Google can't do anything close to that.
- Robert Scoble
I'm not blaming them, just pointing out the irony. You're right though, I wasn't considering the real time aspect of it.
- David Potts
29. If you work very, very hard and get more of your own content liked than anyone else's, while at the same time manage to get more followers than anyone else, you will be dubbed the King (or Queen) of FriendFeed. A ceremonial Cape, Gavel, and oddly enough Toothbrush will be sent your way to show off to your peers. You will also receive a 7% discount card good at all participating Chick-Fil-A establishments. All your content on FriendFeed will be permanently bolded. In a nutshell, you be the awesomest!
- Jeremy Toeman
Chris White got blocked by me because he deleted all his comments here. Nasty.
- Robert Scoble
I missed it... were his comments useful?
- Lindsay
Lindsay: no. Actually he was being a troll the whole way through.
- Robert Scoble
Chris White has done that several times with me, so I ended up blocking him after the fourth or fifth time. :|
- Mona Nomura
@Lindsay: they were like poetry. they were uplifting. they elevated us to a new place. and now, i fear, they are no more. those bits shalt not be seen again, possibly not in our lifetime. another way to say it might be... "I felt a great disturbance in the Friendfeed, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened."
- Jeremy Toeman
Mona: yeah, that kind of attitude sucks. But he demonstrated a new thing: if you behave like an asshole you will get removed from our view. (and ours from his so he can't disturb us anymore).
- Robert Scoble
Seriously, I don't care if you disagree with me, just be cordial and amicable. If you type out your thoughts, stand by them - why delete? If you make a mistake, apologize or edit, if need be. That's why I like you, Robert. You are opinionated but when you feel like you're wrong, you're man enough to admit it, without resorting to personal attacks. That said, I should've listened to you from day one: block jerks.
- Mona Nomura
yes, block jerks... easy rule to follow. If jerk = block! Why would someone delete all their comments?...that makes the entire comment thread get all incoherent. That is sooo lame it's making me laugh... reminds me of grade school antics... gees
- Susan Beebe
32. Ask yourself: would you follow you if you were someone else? If the answer is "yes" ask yourself again, just in case :-)
- Cristian Vidmar
If you become overwhelmed by the amount of information in your feed try these tips for cleaning and organizing your feed. http://bit.ly/14y
- Keith - @tsudo
Best list yet Scoble. You should import the recommendations into a single post so new friendfeeders don't get put off by all of us commenting.
- Keith - @tsudo
awesome, tx for the search tips. custom search + rss = booyaka!
- Xavier Vespa