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OH: "Everything in life can be explained in flowcharts!" #fail
Jason A. Samfield, Jemm, Jesse Stay and 2 other people liked this
I love being the source of Drew's OHs. But I refuse to give context.
- Louis Gray
Like: Why Santa didn't bring the presents a kid wanted? :)
- Jemm
from fftogo
In this case, I believe Louis said that :-)
- Jesse Stay
No Matter How Hard You Try, It Is Impossible To Fax A Cat #shareit
Jim Huller, Faraz Mullick, Olive Fee and 718 other people liked this
LOL!
- Kol Tregaskes
That poor cat looks so confused.
- Kendra <3 Three Lions
but it's so warm on top of the scanner!
- DJF
Time for a cat scan!
- Jemm
Iz I the right way up for printing?
- Vicky
This is clearly not my cat. If this was my cat he's have one arm shoved down into the printer trying to tear up all the internal whirling bits with his bare claws.
- Soup
LOL, Soup!
- Kol Tregaskes
that is one adorable kitten!
- Anna Lynn M.
<3
- Furkan Tunalı
Too Funny! Reminds me of the San Mateo Cat Shelter where one of the cats loves to sleep on top of the laster printer where the paper comes out...
- Greg Lato
Kitty!!!!
- Janice
keep trying!
- Morgan Haley
FEED ME A CAT
- teh Dork Knight aka Kenny
Kol, it is NOT impossible. And that's all I'm saying.
- Steven Perez
Push harder
- Josh Haley
LOL@Jemm
- AJ Batac
آخی
- یک بابک
Hehe, Steven. I won't ask. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Gosh, just noticed this post has nearly 150 likes! :-D
- Kol Tregaskes
1 closer....hilarious!
- Jeffrey Marsh
There we go 150 likes. :-D
- Kol Tregaskes
I'm in ur faxx masheen -- sendin de faxxez....
- Stephanie Segel
I think you mean a LIVE cat…
- Mistletoe Glen
thanks, i needed a laugh
- chaz2b
FAXCAT IS NOT AMUSED
- Karl Knechtel
iz dat some copycat?
- bora "head" basman
LOL, now nearly 200 likes! :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Thats no fax machine, thats my new patented kitty juicer!
- Threepwood
Just one more like... please. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
it's over two huuunddreeeed
- bora "head" basman
MOAR!
- Pat Hawks
I need 9 copies please !
- Faraz Mullick
A cute cat :)
- Mohammad Abdurraafay
Haha, Faráz.
- Kol Tregaskes
Next target, 250 likes. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
اخي...گناهي
- noonii
Friendfeed loev faxcat :o
- Karl Knechtel
;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Pussy by fax. What will they think of next?
- Mattb4rd
X))
- Nia
OMGosh, next up is the 300 likes mark. Anyone care to join in? ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Honestly, i'm not generally a fan of the Cat memes... But that is classic.
- Alistair (alpinefolk)
You know this is the 7th most liked entry on FriendFeed ever: http://beta.friendfeed.com/search... !!!
- Kol Tregaskes
Kol, this thread is pure genius.
- Alex Scoble
But only almost 50 comments.. :)
- Simon Wicks
Simon, there's not much to comment regarding the picture :) But meta-comments are more than appropriate!
- Ivan Zuzak
Simon, yeah we need 1500+ comments now, who wants to start? ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
there we go then for the 1500+!!
- Jaap Willem
1600+ to beat the FFundercats live chat thread. I think with this real time now on all threads we're going to see some truly epic comment numbers.
- Simon Wicks
Ivan, no the picture speaks for itself. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
OK, now it's the 4th: http://beta.friendfeed.com/search... - it's gonna take a huge effort to break the record of 452+ likes here: http://beta.friendfeed.com/imified...
- Kol Tregaskes
OK, now this is the 3rd most liked entry: http://beta.friendfeed.com/search... :-D Crazy!
- Kol Tregaskes
Too bad I am fresh out of likes of I would do it again.
- JSNFLMNG
¡Excelente!
- Marcos Vicente
I'm using this photo in the latest chapter of can haz murder
- anna sauce
Hehe, Anna. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
One more for 350 likes, LOL. This is mental! :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Come on, 350 cats for a cat getting crushed? You guys are mean. :-P
- Richard A.
I'd like again if I could :-)
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
bump
- Simon Wicks
Richard, LOL!
- Kol Tregaskes
Awesomely funny!
- Martha
Next target: 400 likes? ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
theres one more for you Kol
- Toby Graham
Toby, you're very kind. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Cute *_*
- Sybelle
Hehe.
- Kol Tregaskes
Just 6 more likes for the 400 then I'll leave you alone. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
can you spare a cat 6 likes?
- JSNFLMNG
sweet
- Eric Hofmann
Haha, Jason, wow 406 likes, madness! :-D
- Kol Tregaskes
Madness? THIS. IS. FAX CAT.
- Mike Nayyar
Well 452 likes is the record, hmm I think that is pushing it. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Awesome.
- Alex Scoble
this is underfaksink at its worzt
- Petr Buben
Petr, I have no idea what you mean, but thank you. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
@Kol .. :] that, partially, might have been the purpose.... I don't know it exactly either. :] .. was I reflecting on a cat under the fax, and that it is hard to fax that way ... /?:] ... "underfaxing at its worst" ..
- Petr Buben
Ah, OK, Petr. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
there ya have me ! :] .... see, to be honest with you, i saw this pic couple days ago, but i let it go, without posting it ..... what does that make me? :]
- Petr Buben
:-)
- Kol Tregaskes
OMGosh, just 23 more likes to beat this: http://beta.friendfeed.com/imified... ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
433 Like ! Wow !
- Like
Freemor, yes very cute! :-D
- Kol Tregaskes
cute~
- Chan Pen
that's why is called a cat scan and not a cat fax.
- Phil Maxwell
oh ... a scan. not fax?! .... it looked to me like she was faxink
- Petr Buben
Just 5 more likes needed. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Try rolling the cat through a press first. Flat cats fit into the fax easier.
- Bob Blunk
Fax, Petr. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
even a flat cat... faxes just can't handle the hair. You'd have to shave the cat first, else the hair will burn and stick to the drum... a mess! (I am extrapolating from transparencies, mind, i don't have access to a cat to test)
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Hehe, Joelle. This is now tied for the 'likes' top stop. One more then, hehe. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Ok, over the top now.
- Greg Guitarbuster
Hehe, Greg. Blimey! Erm, is that not far from 500 likes now? ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Bloody marvelous, Kol. Wish I could like it again... too cute (and help u to 500 likes).
- Roberto Bonini
I couldn't believe it when I logged on from the morning over posting it and saw it was at something 200 likes! You all have a strange fetish with cats and fax machines, hehe. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Am I the only one who saw this and their first thought was - My goodness did someone break that cats neck? It still freaks me out a little
- Steve C
Steve, it does look a little out of place, but cats are pretty bendy. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
They fax much better if you flatten them first. What?
- Kevin Pedraja
LOL, Kevin.
- Kol Tregaskes
i can also imagine the cat going there cause it is snug and warm
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Ey, it would be a tad warm on there, especially after a long working day. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Caption which needs to be said aloud: Uh Ohz, I'm totally FAXED!
- sofarsoShawn
Hehe, Shawn. 10 more for the big 5-0-0. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Countdown! 8 more now!
- Mike Nayyar
bump for more likes
- Josh Haley
bump
- Roberto Bonini
One more!! :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
I took mine away, too much pressure.
- Steve C
Wow, there we go, 500 likes!! Thank you all!! :-D
- Kol Tregaskes
I think Fax Kitty deserves a prize for that.
- Kendra <3 Three Lions
меня, признаться, подзаебал этот кот
- Парадокс Смейла
пиздец как!
- getalifejerk
Kendra, absolutely. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
So we can put this post to rest now. :-) 505 likes final count, wow! :-D Good night all!
- Kol Tregaskes
My like is the last one so far :) - 509 afaik
- getalifejerk
did 3 people really un-like this? now at 506. wtf (edit: uh, oh, yeah, me and 2 + 506 others makes 509. dammit, jim, i'm an artist, not a mathematician)
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
wish I could double like!
- metalerik
Wish I could just like it at all. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
This is also still on the Best of page. That must be the longest running best of post? :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
But it's a cat being crushed...
- Richard A.
برای چی این همه لایک خورده؟؟؟؟؟
- H.M.Nasrabadi
Hehe, Richard.
- Kol Tregaskes
copy cat
- gibilix
518 like! most liked post?
- Lu Tao
ay yerim yaa çok tatlı kedicikk :))
- Arzu
Lu, yeah but a long way now. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
*bump*
- Andre
Blew past 500 likes - LIKE!!!!!
- Roberto Bonini
OMGosh, nearly heading to 550!!
- Kol Tregaskes
So we know how many people use this site.
- Richard A.
So that's what Paws Printing means.
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
Richard, we getting there. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Jack, hehe.
- Kol Tregaskes
this thread is making history.
- vijay
Indeed .. this is a most epic thread
- Mattb4rd
Hehe. 9 more for 550!
- Kol Tregaskes
8...
- sofarsoShawn
7. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Actually only 5...cuz "You, Earl E Morningwood, yasin ghasemi and... 542 liked this"
- sofarsoShawn
Who wants to bet how many likes this thead is going to get???
- Roberto Bonini
Gosh, no idea.
- Kol Tregaskes
take some bets then come back in a year to check?
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
:)
- SokooteDel
Holy smokes .. this pussy cat is approaching 600 likes!
- Mattb4rd
552 now, so there are some unlikes going on, hehe, oh well. Still an amazing amount of likes. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
560!
- sofarsoShawn
And back down to 559. Hehe.
- Kol Tregaskes
And how could anyone not love kitties after seeing this photo?
- Susan Beebe
I liked it without reading this discussion - evidentially we have a lot of people who like the idea of faxing a cat!
- Rich
Rich, yes, worrying, hehe. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
564!
- sofarsoShawn
I think we'll have to recruit more ffeeps before this record will ever be broken
- JSNFLMNG
maybe a good way to clone cats :)
- Roberto
Hehe, Roberto.
- Kol Tregaskes
This surely couldn't hit 600 likes, could it!?
- Kol Tregaskes
It could! Keep bumping it up!
- imabonehead
It will :)
- Roberto Bonini
My next cat post: http://beta.friendfeed.com/the-fun...
- Kol Tregaskes
Wow, not even 600 Likes? Feh. ;-)
- j1m
No yet. Close though. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Stuck on 581.
- Kol Tregaskes
Most liked FF post ever?
- Kristian Salonen
One of the best funny cat pictures I've seen! :-)
- John Collis
Kristian, it appears to be. Hehe, John.
- Kol Tregaskes
ای بابا این پیشول بی خیال نمی شود، بابا پاشو برو دنبال یه بازی دیگه ، از هفته پیش تا حالا تو فکس ولو شدی حوصله ات سر نرفته، پاشو اقلا بپر رو کیبوردی چیزی
- Maryaminaa
11 more to 600. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
داداش كوتاه بيا، مي خواي ركورد بزني!؟
- Exir
هستم بره این کامنتتو ترجمه کنه اکسیر ! :))) داره از فضولی میمیره الان ! :D
- Shayan
Hehe, 6 more likes. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Need 1 more like, by my calculation, to get to 600
- Josh Haley
Another unlike then, back down to 598. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
it's 598+3, at the moment ;-)
- Andre
There we go, 601!! Wow, can't believe it. :-D Thanks everyone!!
- Kol Tregaskes
3 people un liked :(
- Roberto Bonini
I think there have been made unlikes over the last week, oh well.
- Kol Tregaskes
too many likes, the kitteh is burning up..stop the madness...;)
- JSNFLMNG
Haha, Jason.
- Kol Tregaskes
614!!!!!
- sofarsoShawn
Whoa! :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
man! ..Kol is gaining ... and I saw that pic one day before Kol posted it :X ..and i let it go! :[)]
- Petr Buben
Petr, who's he?
- Kol Tregaskes
omg, this post passed 600 likes!
- imabonehead
@Kol ..well the man .. Mr Photographer .. ok .. let me go there ..
- Petr Buben
I see. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
631 likes, amazing stuff. :-D
- Kol Tregaskes
Day 11 and this thing's still going!
- Phil Maxwell
Why fax yourself when you can get famous via FriendFeed? :-)
- Willem (@wim66) ☠
whereas a cat *scan* is totally feasible
- Megan Craig
Kol, congratulations, you won the Friendfeed Award for the most likes entry!
- Jérôme Flipo
Kol is this from your rival: Squashy Cat Photography?
- sofarsoShawn
Haha, Shawn. Have you really bumped this one again? ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
LOL I was actually looking at best of month and I thought I'm going to be clever :-)
- sofarsoShawn
this makes me laugh every darn time I see it
- Stephanie_Thankful
Who is this NShawnFW? ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
kitties do like to find new spots to nap :)
- Maryam
LOL, now over 650 likes.
- Kol Tregaskes
این هنوز در نیومده از لای این دستگاه؟
- Maryaminaa
Wow. this is good..... pleased, Kol?
- Roberto Bonini
Pleased? About the number of likes? I'm happy regardless. :-D
- Kol Tregaskes
So do we think it will go to 700 likes? ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
it will
- Seltoon
what do you mean by "it" ? say "he" or "she". :)
- Maryaminaa
Haha, I was referring to the entry. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
lol
- Maryaminaa
I see someone already posted 'Copy Cat' !! LOL Great picture
- Kevin J Hatton
:-)
- Kol Tregaskes
O HAI! I IZ WATIN FR COOPONZ, KTHXBYE.
- Kris Roley
Neksnapper 3000 Kitten Eradicator - Kills Kittehs Dead
- Mattb4rd
Hehe.
- Kol Tregaskes
10 more likes for 700! :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
7 more by my count!
- Bec Rowe @d0tski
Oops, yes you're right, Bec. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Isn't it illegal to fax a pussy?
- aerobroken
It's really only social convention which regards it as inappropriate, same with Xeroxing it, like one does with their b__tocks. Wait are we still talking about cats cats here or...
- sofarsoShawn
OMGosh 700+ likes now!! LOL. Thank you all 702 of you. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Wow, not so bad huh? \u)
- ElijahBailey-Zu of FF <0,
try harder! ; ))
- Didier Lahely
Before faxing it, you have to flatten it out a bit. You're going at it all wrong! :-)
- Rick Cogley
Caturday is tommorow ... Fax Cat on Saturday ..
- johnpiercy
Must try this at home!
- Anthony K. Valley ©
Bumping some old great posts. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Now THAT is a classic!
- Allan Besselink
you have to flatten it first!!! ;)
- Neda S.
This is very good humor!
- TrafficBug
Hey, we've hit the 700-like mark. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
just a couple thousand to go
- JSNFLMNG
LOL
- Smeerch
__awesome__
- Matteo Scotuzzi
and it got resurrected once again!
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
I managed to do it once, but I don't think I'm going to do it again. The results were a little fuzzy.
- Seth Greenblatt
pubsubhubbub != PuSH ... pubsubhubbub = PSHB. (due to better searchability) #defrag
Jesse Stay, Jaimini, Ken Sheppardson and 3 other people liked this
I TCP/IP but mostly IP
Darren Heydon, OnuRC, Andrew Speers and 165 other people liked this
Thanks to Ana and the FriendFeed team for the baby tech gear!
- Louis Gray
from email
haha Brilliant BRILLIANT!
- Zee.
hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
- Mona Nomura
awesome
- Yolanda
How can you not Likey this?
- Charlie Anzman
Awesome! Got one in an Adult XL?
- Anthony K. Valley ©
:D Adorable
- Mo Kargas
beautiful baby
- johnpiercy
We've taken to calling Matthew "Bubba". This outfit, though still a bit roomy, is a 6-month outfit. He's just past three months. Hog.
- Louis Gray
totally freakin love it
- Dustin Harris
Get the outfit here: http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts...
- Louis Gray
Best post title today.
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
It's when you check for "packet loss" that there's an issue.
- Chris Brogan
"Technology doesn't solve everything - humans do!" ;-)
- Jesse Stay
from twhirl
Yeah, heart feels like it's smiling.
- michael sean wright
THAT IS FUNNY!! very cute indeed! IP ...ha, ha!!!
- Susan Beebe
Thanks for that - I needed a laugh this morning :-)
- Tim Chemacki
I am still giggling about this.
- Mathew A. Koeneker
Hehehehehehe.
- Roberto Bonini
FFundercats moment of win tonight :-)
- mandyvan
I LOVE this.
- Mona Nomura
Oh holy crap. FFundercats hoooooooooooo!
- Akiva Moskovitz
LOVE
- Johnny Worthington
I tried to re-LIKE this. :-D
- Lisa L. Seifert
can we talk about a hand me down program for these shirts for me in a few months? :D
- sean percival
TCP/IP. What's THAT? *non-tech type here*
- Derrick
The source. I bow.
- Josh Haley
Derrick: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Rochelle
What? This one is back? :-) Here is an UPDATE: http://www.thegrayeffect.com/2008...
- Louis Gray
This was raised from the dead in order to have you accidentally participate in the FFundercats Moment of WIN...
- xero
Tonight's ffundercat podcast "moment of win"
- Michael W. May
from twhirl
Louis, do you listen to our podcast?
- Josh Haley
bad louis --retroactively
- Amber, Random Time Lord
:)
- Josh Haley
I have seen this in person
- Jesse Stay
the "technology generation" :) lovely baby!
- HollyHobby
Adobe updater: Please update your Adobe software! Me: okay. AU: While you're at it, quit all your browsers. Me: You magnificent bastard.
gioia ulderigo, Jaimini, Jon Ursenbach and 2 other people liked this
TheHenry to TheHenry's feed, 3G iPhone, iPhone, iPhone App Ideas, iPhone Applications, All Things Apple, Technology News, Technology News, Technology at Play
Dropbox is coming to the iPhone for Free - http://www.thehenry.net/2009...
Onur Babacan, Danny Minick, Carlos Ayala and 18 other people liked this
YES!
- Techno Todd
NICE!!!!!!!
- Mona Nomura
Excellent...
- Jonathan Beckett
very nice!
- ken domen
Anything new on this?
- Techno Todd
yay! that's great news!
- Dan van Moll
from BuddyFeed
"Stingray leaping out of the water to escape killer whale"
Jim Braux-Zin, LJF Wolffe, Louis Gray and 80 other people liked this
wow!!
- Rachel Lea Fox
First flying sharks, now flying stingrays... we're all going to die!
- Georgia Diehl
Next you're going to tell me there are giant squid capable of taking down an airliner.
- Brian Johns
I wouldn't know about that, Brian. I stopped watching Lost during the first season.
- Kevin Fox
I believe this picture was taken across the harbour from where I am sitting at my desk...this same pic was in the NZ Hearld. Whales do chase the sting rays...and then they tear open their midsections...apparently, that is the part of the stingray that the whales like.
- Skye Miller
never too late to catch up on Lost, Kevin. You still have some months ;)
- Adam Lasnik
Mmmmm...Skate is yummy
- Bill Heslin
"Okay, Whale, this is fun but exhausting! Now it's your turn!"
- Adam Lasnik
This is awesome....and oddly frightening
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Wow. :D
- Ayşe E.
Great example of different parts of the animal kingdom practicing for their impending war with us to take back the planet.
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
It's Legal In Vermont - http://www.buzzfeed.com/akdobbi...
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"Ben & Jerry's wins the Pro-Gay Marriage Sign of the Day award for this gem (spotted in a Cambridge, MA T-station). Yeah, they went there."
- Kamath (नमः)
from Bookmarklet
If you're saying "um" or "uh" after every three words in your screencasts, maybe you should write a script first.
Gilbert Harding, Alex Scoble and Jaimini liked this
Fun with Food - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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© D/\\/IIID ℠ ®, Emma, EhsanDiary and 54 other people liked this
ای بابا باز من باید تذکر بدم ؟:دی
- Viva Vida
آخه خیلی خوشمزه اند :)))
- Mahdi Ebrahimi
آره خیلی خوشمزن :)))))))
- Viva Vida
ای بابا |, ماه رمضونی این چیزا شیر نکنید :))))
- Mil∂d
وی مگه برای تو خوراکی بدمزهای هم وجود داره؟
- فوهاد صا.
فو نگو که تو از این خوراکی خوشت نیومده :دی
- Viva Vida
آخه بچه چی از جون ما می خوای اسمایلی انفجار بزاق و بزاق دون
- Noosha
هووووم
- Ideh
آقا ما هی میخواییم این رو نبینیم بدتر جلوی چشمون میاد
- mohsen shayan
وای خدا چه خوشمزه میان.... هوووووووووم..... سر به فدای شکم
- Mohammad Javad
خدایا من گشنمه :((((
- saeedeh
واقعی اند باور نداری
- Mahdi Ebrahimi
I have been craving chocolate all week. This is just not fair!
- Adriana
Adriana: i hope you enjoyed all kind of chocolate.
- Mahdi Ebrahimi
damnnnnnnnn
- Mystika
:))
- Mahdi Ebrahimi
ای بیرحما اینا چیه هی پیدا می کنید می فرستید بالا ؟
- Noosha
تو رو خدا بذارین یه انگشت از خامه ش بخورم =)))))
- وارش
ایشون دایه جان شما تشریف ندارن ؟ http://ff.im/35rTH
- Noosha
دوباره لایک خیلی زیاد |لایک برای شخم نوشا
- parazitt
Dick Cheney was a menacing, frightening manipulative bastard of a Vice President. Joe Biden is a bumbling fool of a genius.
amygeek, mjc, Victor Panlilio and 4 other people liked this
Isn't that what you want in your VP? A menacing, frightening manipulative bastard you can send everywhere to do your dirty work? Ya know, like shoot someone's face off when it's needed... Joe Biden is just a bumbling fool.
- Sam J. West IV
According to a number of news services, he engineered the Specter defection.
- Mark Gunnels
You mean Biden engineered it? Well yeah he's been working on him for awhile but Specter was already in his court. There's NO love loss between Specter and the Repubs
- Sam J. West IV
New Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen Trailer - http://www.inquisitr.com/23185...
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Jaimini, Vijayendra (V-Mo) Mohanty, Ňicķ and Mahesh CR liked this
Too HD for my rickety old RAM starved desktop. Couldn't find it on Youtube.
- Vijayendra (V-Mo) Mohanty
we have a very happy dog - that's actually infectious :D
A.T., Jaimini, Helen Sventitsky and 8 other people liked this
must clarify infectious dog line - she's not diseased, she's just very happy and it rubs off on people. Happiness, and black hair.
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
i know they use "black dog" as a metaphor for depression, but that's because they haven't met pippi
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Hmm could that explain your sunny disposition (or your intensive use of ":D") these days?
- Meryn Stol
My one springer lays on his side and pretend swims, we sing the "I'm a Happy Dog" song and it wires him out even more. You are right - no matter how pissy you feel a happy dog with make it better.
- Janet
there's an "I'm a Happy Dog" song? Link! link!
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
@meryn I'm a pessimist with a very cheery disposition, that came before the dog
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
@Joelle, it is a take off a dog food commercial, I think it was Kibbles and Bits. Just start singing "I'mmmmmm a Haaaaaaapppy Dog" and repeat. It wires them out.
- Janet
glad to know i am not the only one singing to my dog :D
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
"a pessimist with a very cheery disposition" - a woman of opposites, huh? ;)
- Meryn Stol
We're all people of opposites and contradictions :D But in my case it's not even really a contradiction - you can think that things might go wrong and prepare for all sorts of contigency, and try to prevent it, and carry on cheerfully - life's too short and too beautiful to waste on taking oneself too seriously and being gloomy (although I *am* world class champion at complaining). Or in more candid terms: Shit happens, expect it and pack some wipes, laugh it off and life goes on
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Thinking things might go wrong - and subsequently preparing for that - is more like being careful than being pessimistic, wouldn't you say? Still, only thing I can say is that you've got a really peculiar mindset, something inexplicable. Not in a negative sense though. I've never seen the words you use coming together in sentences before. I can't touch it. It kind of fits with your claim that it's either "hit or miss" for people who might want to hire you.
- Meryn Stol
OTOH, I do have the feeling that in a meeting discussing some new idea, you'd every time be the one proclaiming "This is never gonna work.". With the added note that you'd actually be making sense, and people would be annoyed because they wouldn't easily be able to refute your arguments. But that would actually improve group resilience, because in the end, you are a team-player. Ok, now tell me how wrong I am on this. :)
- Meryn Stol
You're puzzling me about the words i use etc. As for pessimism, I'm far too practical to just go "this is never going to work" - I'm more the annoying one who is following the idea through down the road and figuring out the kinks and risks, needs and consequences (good and bad). But you have to, really, when you're the one who'll be held responsible for the success/failure of the...
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- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
"following the idea through down the road and figuring out the kinks and risks, needs and consequences" - That's what I meant with "you'd be making sense". The "This is never gonna work" was more meant as a metaphor. In conversation with me you've shown quite a ability to zoom in on the weaknesses of certain plans. I think you're quite good at keeping people grounded when they get unrealistic in their enthusiasm.
- Meryn Stol
i guess that's what i mean when i say i am a pessimist with a cheery disposition - I am a very enthusiastic person, and usually infectious in my enthusiasm about a plan or venture or product, but it is always with a very clear idea of risks and threats and limitations. If you ask people who worked with/under me you'll probably get people who mostly remember/notice the...
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- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
having a dog has greatly revived the spontaneous, silly, eccentric, dont-care-to-fit-standard-roles side of me - does it do that to everyone, and is that what a "dog person" is, someone who still has a near-childlike side that makes them enjoy time with a dog to let this out?
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Maybe so, but I think adults are merely posing anyway. :)
- Meryn Stol
The things we do for love - http://ventisette.tumblr.com/post...
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That's cute.
- Alex Scoble
NO.
- Mona Nomura
lol
- Anna Haro
It's walking in the rain and the snow and you've got no where to go
- Johnny Worthington
This made me laugh
- Darren Heydon
Pretty sure I've done that already.
- Alix Whitmire
No matter how much I love a person, I would NEVER sit through Moulin Rouge. EVER.
- Mona Nomura
Yep, I'm gonna second Mona on that one
- Mo Kargas
Aw Darren you are so romantic BUT I'm def with Mona on MR
- BEX
been there, done that
- William Harryman
lol Mona, ok I'll make an exception. Weirdest movie EVER
- Darren Heydon
@Bex ty :)
- Darren Heydon
*sings with johnny* ...and you're feeling like a part of you is dying...
- Trish Haley
I will NOT
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
I've done this many times with my wife.
- Mark Krynsky
My Rachel would do this, but she'd tease me mercilessly about my love for it.
- Kevin Fox
Also, what's with the MR hating? Baz is great! What do you Aussies think of his 'Australia'? Rachel and I watched it last night and liked it.
- Kevin Fox
No love is strong enough to justify a viewing of Gigli
- Morgan Haley
No, not tease you mercilessly for loving the movie Kevin, just laugh hysterically at the movie and then tease you when you get annoyed that I'm laughing at the god awful movie! In short, its not the fact that you like it, its the fact that you won't admit that you like it spite of its god awfulness! As long as you know its god awful, its okay to like it. Cause knowing is half the battle! :D
- Rachel Lea Fox
Rusty
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AWWW
- BEX
WHO"S A GOOD BOY? YOU ARE!
- Mistletoe Glen
cutie!! he would be fat if he lived with me!
- esther ♥ ♫
I remember when we first got him, he fell asleep on my chest the first night
- Darren Heydon
@Dave, are you serious? lol
- Darren Heydon
What a cutey!
- Nia
@Paul totally agree!
- Darren Heydon
wow, is he yours? totally cute
- Cee Bee
Yep, family pet actually. Totally miss him
- Darren Heydon
I like this photo, it's like he really wants to be photographed
- M F
Thanks M F :) I have more
- Darren Heydon
awww lovely, you can never take enough photos of your pets, i have hundreds! lol
- Tatty Gibson
Digg to make the DiggBar an opt-in experience - http://www.feedhub.com/iris...
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I live in a digg-free world, more pleasant.
- Richard A.
Evernote + Twitter = Instant Memories - http://blog.evernote.com/2009...
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Not sure I would actually use this, but pretty sweet nonetheless...
- Byron McCollum
Arrington, Seqway, Calacanis, Crunchpad -- all in one photo - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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The knees belong to Chandrasekar Rathakrishnan, founder and CEO of http://fusiongarage.com -- which is doing the engineering work on the CrunchPad, the Tablet PCs that TechCrunch is making. Mike Arrington, founder of TechCrunch, is Twittering while riding his new Segway. Calacanis is Twittering too. The rest of the office is trying to get some work done. By the way, I met my wife in this office 10 years ago when I helped interview her for a job. The office also is where Doc Searls had his marketing company (the beginnings of Cluetrain Manifesto came from here).
- Robert Scoble
from Bookmarklet
A winning moment!
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
haha. nice one Scoble. This pic should go to an art museum or something for the future people to see what was it like in 2009
- Nikos Kouremenos
Is it just me, or can you attach a keyboard + mouse to the CrunchPad (if this has been openly pointed out before, my apologies).
- Michael Forian
Wow ... Hallowed ground, indeed!
- Prosemonkey
Maryam and I worked right about where Heather is standing. By the way, this used to be Palo Alto's Mortuary. Off to find info about that. Bummer, not much info about this office is online.
- Robert Scoble
Didn't he say he'd kick your ass if you showed any Crunchpad pics? I got your back though, no worries. Btw, he's totally fug.
- sofarsoShawn
Slightly off topic: Using a Cannon 5D mark II in a well lit room? Almost seems like a waste. Sometime when you are in the northwest we need to go see a band play at one of the dark dive clubs I take photos in. I want to see how it works in that situation.
- MarkCarras
Mark: yeah, shooting at 6400 ISO too. It is an awesome camera. Used my 24 mm F2.8 prime lens.
- Robert Scoble
If only Scoble was in the pic that would be the nerdiest photo ever.
- Jonathan Coffman
sofaroshawn: I'm not too worried about Mike. Anyway, me thinks he really wanted the PR for the CrunchPad. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Just now realizing that I live almost next door to the new techcrunch office. pretty sweet place!
- Blake
Scoble: What is this colorful display on the table?
- Rafael
Rafael: those are the prototypes of the CrunchPad.
- Robert Scoble
Yeah, this office is on Lytton in Palo Alto at the corner of Ramona.
- Robert Scoble
Uhm, thanks! Beautiful and attractive.
- Rafael
I saw the CrunchPad when I was there that morning as well and was sworn not to mention/blog about it. But it looks like that didn't last long! :)
- Louis Gray
Dave McClure was first to post images from that day, so you guys are probably all just fine. :-) I don't think it's much of a secret any more.
- Jesse Stay
Intel Atom, you say... wish'em luck - they will need it...
- A.T.
Louis: I didn't agree to any embargo. And, anyway, it's TechCrunch. You know, those guys who don't agree to embargoes anyway! And I only posted this after Calacanis posted his own pictures. So there. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Are you guys seriously worrying about breaking a TECHCRUNCH embargo? Techcrunch doesn't seem too worried about embargos on their blogs.
- Jim Connolly
Awesome, Mike reminds me of Job on Arrested Development. Does he have his title stitched on the front of the bag?
- Ryan
From an online forum. "
I was talking to this dude about Java. He was like, "I like it!"
I was like, "It gives me hives!"
He said, "Really?"
I said, "No. It gives me HiveFactoryConstructors, which give me HiveFactories, which give me Hives." "
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Credit: http://steamcommunity.com/id...
- Tudor Bosman
That is, by far, the nerdiest joke I've heard in a while. I love it!
- Mark Trapp
We weren't doing anything
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Like mother like child! Awesome!
- Rachel Lea Fox
Omg such a cute pic!
- BEX
That doesn't even need a caption.
- Kate Schmidt
Love it!
- Reggie L.
LOL!
- Anurag Gupta
Great shot! How cute.
- Willem (@wim66) ☠
Uh Mom?
- Moved to Facebook
So I say to my 2.5-yr old, "Are you going to work today like Dada?" And he says, "No, I'm going to live."
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ouch.
- ♥patricia♥
smart kid. :o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
They say the darnedest things.
- Eric Geller
Wise kid :).
- Roberto Bonini
Awww yeah http://twitpic.com/30cxb
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you'll enjoy it... it's completely changed my reading habits... meaning i read much more than before... congrats
- Ankush Narula
What is the total cost of ownership for the device, services, etc. ?
- Jay Cuthrell
Ditto, Ankush
- Pat Hawks
seriously considering a Kindle ....hmmm
- Susan Beebe
I was very close to buying one of these myself this past week but decided on a full-format DSLR instead. I can't stand the form factor of the Kindle but I really like the idea of being able to get books instantly rather than having to wait for overnight shipping (as an Amazon Prime customer, of course). I will wait until it's full-color and has a touch screen.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Man i wish it was cheaper. Can't wait to hear your thoughts on it.
- Frankie Warren
I think a touch screen is not nearly as important as some people think. It's supposed to be like reading a book, you just need to flip pages. Carrying Wikipedia with me where ever I go is super nice too.
- Pat Hawks
Right, and I want to flip pages with my fingers.
- Akiva Moskovitz
But it would drain the battery. I'd rather have good battery life.
- Pat Hawks
Total cost = cost of the device - there's no charge for the wireless radio. You pay for the content - books are per download; newspapers, magazines, blogs are monthly subscriptions; they offer a service where you can e-mail any PDF to your Kindle for $.10 per PDF (you can do this conversion from the Amazon website and upload via USB for free) - that's it
- Ankush Narula
Once the Kindle for iPhone app arrived with WhisperSync, that was it for me. Bought it a week ago and already read four books. Just bought a fifth while eating lunch today.
- Kevin C. Tofel
@Ankush Interesting. Your thoughts on the concerns of this link? http://k.indled.com/The-Ama...
- Jay Cuthrell
Stupid answers often follows stupid questions. Fact: asking right questions takes more brainpower than 'smart' answers.
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Hehehee, Love: very true.
- sofarsoShawn
Good questions should always be answerable by yes, no, or I don't know. If it can't be answered by one of those three it means you need to define the question better, or ask a lot more questions.
- Sparky
A good question is followed by the answer you're looking for, more often times than not.
- Mona Nomura
from fftogo
stupid questions are answered by me with http://www.justfuckinggoogleit.com/
- mjc
Smart questions increase the total amount of human knowledge
- Robert Hafer
Follow up Fact: If you're looking for the answers then you have to ask the questions aka Dialogue/Discourse.
- sofarsoShawn
Hey Shawn! Welcome back :) Also, people that complain about stupid people. You get what you give.
- Mona Nomura
so... ummm... *twiddles fingers*... how is... umm... BABBY FORMED?
- vijay
Thx Mona, good to be back! And + again on that last phrase: karma for sure
- sofarsoShawn
This is so true! I find great questions don't have any unvalidated assumptions in them.
- Erica Toelle
Monkey Island shoes - http://maya-plisetskaya.blogspot.com/2009...
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LOVE. Sneakers with Guybrush Threepwood on them!
- Jennie Lin
YES!! Loved the Monkey Island series. Where's LeChuck version? They could be called "LeChuck's"
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
woahhh monkey island! I completely forgot about that haha.
- Frankie Warren
I'd buy Day of the Tentacle sneaks!
- Carter Rabasa
Sean: LeChuck's, that's perfect!
- Jennie Lin
"Fighting the web is like holding back the ocean; it will route around you or it will wear you down, but it will never tire or give up."
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Relevant again in yet another context...
- DeWitt Clinton
Just like Rick Astley!
- Josh Haley
+Josh
- Private Sanjeev
Hahaha.
- DeWitt Clinton
I have a feeling that I am using Twitter inside FriendFeed! I love the new look! Looks uber cool!
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The Twosomeblanket costs $350 and looks like bacon - http://www.birkiland.com/store...
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Want.
- Jess Lee
Nah, no comp for the snuggie here.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Looks like someone wants to fry up something.
- John E. Bredehoft
you can't use laptops with that. haha
- mjc
That would annoy me, I'm a blanket + space hog. Gimme room to breathe!
- Mona Nomura
nothing compelling.
- Richard A.
The snuggie is cool. Thanks, Rahsheen. Birkiland also makes something called the Sealsuit, which has arms...but no armholes. http://www.birkiland.com/store....
- Jess Lee
The reason I don't trust people who bash Macs and prefer (Windows) PCs supposedly on the basis of price is that they'd never install Linux.
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Typing on my Linux netbook right now. ;)
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
Mark, what do you mean by Linux netbook? Isn't it Win 7 - the queen of netbooks?
- Sasha Kovaliov(.com)
Meh... That's what it came with. I don't get the big deal. it's no more stable than Win XP and installing stuff is not one or two clicks. In a year I've had to wipe the drive several times to start over. Mostly stuff I screwed up, I suspect, but the last time was something I didn't do. And for the record I don't bash Macs; I bash rabid, closed-minded Apple evangelists.
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
Oh I do bash closed-minded Apple people together with their apple products. Like: we are in 2009, where is that FLASH on your iPhonie? '_
- Sasha Kovaliov(.com)
Thank you, Mark. I am really tired of rabid evangelistas of anything, particularly when the implication is that anyone who doesn't choose Brand Y needs a brain implant. Needs, preferences, resources, and skills VARY. And a good thing, too, or creativity would come to a halt.
- Rebecca
My first home computer was an Apple. An Apple Lisa 1. I have bought 6 iPods... All very nice and of high quality. But not the only product available. Choose the product that best suits your needs.
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
I run Windows and Linux. It all works, but for different things. Once upon a time, I was paid to program on Windows. Now I get paid to program on Linux.
- Piaw Na
All I'm saying is that I agree that there are valid reasons to buy a Windows PC over a Mac, but price alone ain't it, since it's obviously cheaper to just build your own machine and install Linux on it.
- Victor Ganata
I bash Macs on the basis of price. I also bash Windows PCs. Linux and FreeBSD is how I roll.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
I argue that as a matter of practicality, unless your time isn't worth anything, paying a manufacturer who has economies of scale to build something for you is a fine decision. Now, when that same manufacturer has a 30% profit margin and everyone else who's doing manufacturing has 5-10% margins, then you have to decide whether the value add is worth so much more than everyone else's. It turns out that during a recession, the perceived value-add of something like "coolness" can turn out to be lower...
- Piaw Na
I bash everything! all OSes suck in many different ways.
- mjc
Piaw, that's the attitude I find irritating. Do you ever consider that there are other advantages to owning a non-Windows machine that is fully supported by a vendor besides "being cool"?
- Victor Ganata
Chris White, that implies that free computer software is permanently inferior to costly, proprietary equivalents.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
That doesn't work, getting support for/learning Linux can take time, time = money, I wouldn't put price on the list as an advantage over windows for an individual user.
- Richard Lawler
Chris, that isn't a good analogy. If somebody wants to build a car for to give to somebody else for free, he or she will have to pay money out of his or her pocket in addition to the time spent building the car. If somebody wants to write a computer operating system for free, the only thing consumed is time.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
Dave, part of it is that the choice of one person's tool, in the case of computers, can affect the effectiveness of other tools. For example, if I have a family member in my home that refuses to use anything except Windows, and all the other computers are Linux, that slightly complicates building a home network.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
Chris, I do not think the best people, or any people, do ALL of their work for free. Don't you know anybody that has done some sort of volunteering for a charity organization?
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
Chris, I think we had that argument on friendfeed like two months ago.
- Alex Scoble
I value my time. My accountant can verify what my time is worth. Why would I give away something valuable?
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
Chris, "Given enough eyeballs, all bugs are shallow," as Linus's Law, according to Eric S. Raymond, states (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...). The open source environment has the potential for a far larger number of eyeballs looking at a problem than a closed-source corporate environment. Why? Because the closed-source environment has to have enough resources to pay every pair of eyeballs. This limitation does not exist in the open-source environment.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
Mark, many open source developers are writing things that they themselves use frequently. It isn't about giving your time away, but sharing what you have made for yourself.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
Chris, now I'm confused. Have I been arguing against the wrong person?
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
Open source != no cost
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
Good point, Mark. I shall now use the term "Free software". My apologies, Chris. I also checked your blog and saw you use Apache and Wordpress.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
But regardless of who I am debating, I still maintain that free software can easily be superior to all proprietary equivalents, and that there is much free software out there that is already superior to proprietary equivalents. Linux on the server, and *almost* on the desktop, is among the free software that is superior to costly proprietary equivalents.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
Well, 'Free Software' seems more in line with your position. But here's the thing: In business a hard rule that is almost impossible to break is that you almost always get what you pay for. Do I use free software? Of course. iTunes, Opera, etc... But what are the for cost alternatives to browsers and media players?
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
I have NEVER tried a computer with Linux on it in my life.
- Michael Forian
I don't think "you get what you pay for" applies to computer software. Copies of software can be created at a *very* little cost. In addition, because anybody that can make improvements is allowed to make improvements, it is possible (given powerful enough methods of communication) that a vastly larger crowd of developers could be working on an open source application than a comparable proprietary application. These two factors are not the only reasons for why FOSS (free open source software) can break...
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
(continued from above) the "you get what you pay for" rule.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
Chris, Kobe, of course. I assume you are using that analogy to make the point that a skilled, paid programmer will do a better job than an unskilled, unpaid programmer. But unlike in basketball, one computer programmer can improve the existing work of another computer programmer. Kobe cannot "fix" a missed basket thrown by somebody else, but (assuming he has the skills) he can fix a program written by somebody else. With open source programming, experts from all around the world are open to fix a...
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
(continued from above) ...program. The result is an improved codebase. In addition, many hands make light work, and free open source software allows for more hands. Like I said in some comment above, an organization producing costly closed-source programs has a limit of employees that can be added due to the need to pay them all. This limitation does not exist with open source, and, assuming proper management, the result is a good product.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
I wouldn't say I'm a basher, but I do not believe that running Windows invalidates the price -only argument. Sometimes the cheapest solution isn't the best. If one can't afford the top of the line, one goes down the middle. If one works in education, running a Windows OS can be just as inexpensive as running Linux or a BSD distro. If one can't build a computer, then one buys a computer, and a computer that comes with Windows costs less than a computer that comes with OS X.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Chris, could you give an example of a proprietary U/X innovation so I know what specifically to answer with?
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
I first commented "package managers", but then I realized that isn't really what you mean.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
Nobody I know who bashes Macs and prefers Windows has ever actually paid for Windows and they tend to run one of those modified versions like Black or TinyXP or whatever the new versions are.
- Rob Haas
Well, yeah, if you pirate it, then I can see how you can win the price argument.
- Victor Ganata
I run straight Ubuntu on the Old Beast. Gave up on XP a few years ago.
- Steven Perez
I mean, can't you apply the time-is-money argument for buying a Mac? How much time does the average Windows user spend defragging, scanning for viruses, rebooting, reformatting, reinstalling over the lifetime of a machine?
- Victor Ganata
You don't sit waiting for a defrag to happen; you do it on break or while sleeping (I rarely do it). I install my AV software and forget about it. I reboot my XP machines less than once a week. I rarely do an install on my PCs from scratch. Am I the average user? I've been a PC support tech for > a decade; probably not. Ask my brother how well his older MacBooks work after a relative got her hands on them. One day, Macites might realize that different people can achieve things with different solutions...
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
The average Windows user doesn't spend any time doing that stuff. I've had my Windows machines for years and not had to do any of that stuff. Your image of Windows is dated from 1995. XP and up has been incredibly stable for me. My linux machine in 2003 wasn't nearly as stable as my XP box from the same era. Linux has also gotten more stable since 2003.
- Piaw Na
I have a MacBook, so I don't believe one can attribute my stance to ignorance. It was fun playing with it for a few months, but then I went back to the machines that help me work and play without the additional angst. I can't update my Project Server tasks on a danged Mac without a VM or remote connection to another machine. I can't update my tickets; there's no Mac client. Is there a Netmotion VPN client, yet? Still scared to update to Leopard (remember the BSODs and dead keys?).
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
I don't think that the time-is-money argument can be applied to Mac vs. PC (vs. Linux) for home computing. Can you really say with 100% certainty that a given user, if he did not have to regularly reinstall Windows, that he could put *all* that time to something money-producing? It is most likely that such home PC maintenance tasks are done during what otherwise would be leisure time.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
leisure time is also valuable, taking a weekend to set up a new OS isn't something I'd write off, and when you need to open up a document (for example) and have to learn something new about the OS to do it....that's not leisure time.
- Richard Lawler
Piaw, yeah, I realize that things are a lot better than in 1995, and XP seems to be a pretty solid OS, but it still seems like it's hard to recover from hangs, and you have to reboot a lot. Then again, I never have admin access on any of the Windows machines I have to use.
- Victor Ganata
Folks would be more likely to have to learn something new building a PC and going with a free Linux solution instead of Windows. I had to research an option to allow me to auto-login to Cisco VPN with OS X; the info for doing that in Windows was already available to me. If you start a maintenance task, then wander off to watch a sporting event, how much time have you wasted?
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Who has to reboot a lot? I reboot every few weeks or so, and my PCs don't have hangs any moreso than the Macs I use, which is pretty infrequently on both, and usually firefox related, on both..
- Richard Lawler
Leisure time is valuable? Yes, but the value of leisure time does not justify the cost of a more expensive solution, even if it does free up some more time. It is like paying somebody else to assemble a bookshelf compared to assembling the bookshelf yourself. Unless you could actually be generating more money (compared to the cost of paying somebody to assemble it) at any time of day when you would normally be assembling the bookshelf, assembling the bookshelf yourself is the more economical option.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
Victor, my Windows laptops and tablets have done a heck of a better job at letting the user back in from sleep than my MacBook and my friend's MacBook Pro. Basically, it was a coin toss as to whether or not that beach ball would stop spinning and let us in. My friend had to hard reboot; I had to close the cover and open it again, and it would usually condescend to let me in the second time.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
You change your own oil possible? You cut your own grass? You do all your household maintenance on your own? Ever eat fast food, ever? My time is valuable and its probably my #1 deciding factor in what to do, whether it's 9-5 (if I worked a regular 9-5) or not.
- Richard Lawler
That said, Linux netbooks save money and leisure time.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
@MiniMage It sounds like your uses for your computer are precisely the reason to buy a Windows PC. As a Mac and Linux user, I guess I've gotten conditioned to the relative dearth of software, and have so far managed to adapt to Windows-centric workplaces without running Windows. I realize not everyone has that opportunity, though. As for Leopard, I've even got it running on an old iBook G4, and things seem to run smoothly, it may be because my uses differ from yours.
- Victor Ganata
I'm curious, what is the average uptime for a Windows PC these days?
- Victor Ganata
I've been using UNIX since the 90s, and Linux, while fun and challenging, is time-consuming. Do I want a GUI for playing music? Well, now, I have to go find that, install it, and hope it plays OGG and MP3. I usually have to forget about WMA. Upgrading Firefox on Ubuntu was a horrid experience; I hope it's gotten easier to install the latest release since then. Cisco VPN was a battle on Ubuntu; I found all these wacky, convoluted instructions that failed, but then it showed up in the package installer.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
I'm using Linux right now, never to return to Windows ever again.
- ::Kristen::
I try to make sure I run several operating systems; each has something to teach me, and as an IT person, I see the battles (desired and undesired) as professional development.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Richard, I only brought up the fact that only leisure time is being wasted as to debunk the idea that Macs save money because they save time, thus offsetting the higher cost of Macs to make them cheaper. People are free to take the expensive, non-productive-time-saving route, but it doesn't make it cheaper than the leisure-time-consuming route.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
Can't tell you what my home PC's uptime is like; I popped a circuit [edit: I might mean breaker] last night, and I need to stop being a miser and get a bigger UPS. As with my Mac, I only reboot long after updates demand it. Why IS it that Macs want to reboot after updates? My friend told me years ago that FreeBSD versions could undergo full upgrades without requiring a reboot.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
No matter what OS we're talking about, "leisure" time has value, it can't be simply tossed aside.
- Richard Lawler
@MiniMage I imagine that if you update the kernel, no matter what OS you're running, you're going to have to reboot. Compared to other *NIXes, OS X does seem to require reboots rather often, but it still doesn't feel as often as in Windows.
- Victor Ganata
So, here's the deal: I run XP on my Desktop and laptop; XP on all the company gear. Why? Because no one will update a program called Stealthware or write a competitor. It was written for DOS and has only had bug fixes since. I have a netbook with Linux that I use a lot to surf, etc and some form of Mac on my iPod Touch. I'm not loyal to one over the other. Each does well on it's own for the intended purpose.
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
Richard, again, I am not saying that leisure time should be thrown out of the window. I am saying that paying a premium for more leisure time does not lower the bills.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
That's gotta be the most rational way to look at this: always use the right tool for the job.
- Victor Ganata
but it does lower the bills, if for example you spend that weekend working on your car, cooking your own meals, finding the best deal on other purchases, etc. There's definitely an effect on the wallet
- Richard Lawler
Victor: Nobody is saying to *not* use the best tool for the job. A lot of us just think that one tool can help complete many jobs.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
Richard: But then it is not leisure time anymore.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
Victor, my uptime for XP is measured in time between Microsoft updates which happen automatically at night. So nowadays it's typically months. :-) I don't defrag my hard drive. And of course, irony of ironies, my Windows XP box is a Mac Mini that I converted after I got frustrated one too many times with Mac OS X. Of course, the thing that frustrated me was one of the fixes introduced in Leopard, but by then it was too late. An XP license was $35 (employee discount), and Leopard cost 3X that much.
- Piaw Na
wat? I have no idea what your definition of leisure time is, but we disagree. I've installed linux, but I don't use it a lot since I haven't taken the time to identify and become familiar with the equivalent tools I'd need.
- Richard Lawler
Piaw, but is that typical for anyone who uses a Windows box?
- Victor Ganata
My definition of leisure time is when one does something relaxing without achieving any other goal except evading work and boredom. Cooking meals and working on a car do not fit into my definition of leisure activities.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
so any time dicking around with a new OS isn't leisure time, thank you, my point stands.
- Richard Lawler
I'll bash all operating systems, in the meantime this thread being the most popular shows what niche friendfeed is idea for at this moment in time.
- Richard A.
It isn't necessary to sit in front of a computer and fret while it does updates or defrags. You start the thing, then you go do your leisure stuff. Your day won't be ruined. Of course, I can't actually remember when I last defragged my Wintel.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Mac rules
- orionstarr
You never have to defrag a Mac or Linux box, though.
- Victor Ganata
Run both, prefer Mac. ROI over 20 years definitely in favor of Mac. Linux would take me time to learn and I am too near retirement. If I have a job due in a hurry, I fire up Quark Express or Photoshop on the Mac and I know the drivers will work. I know not one secretary has downloaded some crap that somehow got past the firewall or some e-mail attachment because MIS has forced Windows on all the bean counters and pencil pushers. If I do have a problem, and I confess to 2 or 3 over 20+ years, I fix it.
- Phil Boiarski
Richard, spending time learning about a new operating system isn't leisure time, but that itself can save you leisure time later on. Keep in mind that this does not affect my original argument that saving leisure time DOESN'T save money. In addition, my operating system of choice, Linux, saves leisure time AND money. When I finally switched to Linux on the desktop (previously, I had only used it on the server), I had no trouble figuring out the operating system.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
I had no trouble figuring out desktop Linux not because of server experience, but because my favorite applications (GIMP, Pidgin, Inkscape, Firefox) were also on Linux. In addition, the GUI configuration utilities (I did programming on the server, not systems administration) were easy and helpful. The result? I saved time, money, and frustration. Granted, if you do not have experience with your favorite applications, it is going to be more difficult.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
Regardless, many GUI Linux applications (especially the GTK+/GNOME ones) have easy to understand user interfaces, and a few applications on Linux have strikingly similar equivalents on the Windows side (Mousepad and Windows Notepad).
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
Granted, any *NIX has a steep learning curve, but once you've gotten past that, you've got a tremendous amount of power at your fingertips.
- Victor Ganata
I've used GIMP, Pidgin and Firefox on windows and linux and it's not an easy switch. Once you've learned the OS, getting them installed isn't hard, but then when you want to upgrade java/flash or add a filter or something, there's a learning curve that doesn't exist on Windows or Macs. We've gone in a circle on the time/money argument, I'm glad you have a system that benefits you, but I disagree with you on how most people use their systems and view their time.
- Richard Lawler
Dreaming of a PC with 192GB of RAM? Dell makes it reality (Eric Lai/Computerworld) - http://www.techmeme.com/090326...
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