This is clearly not my cat. If this was my cat he's have one arm shoved down into the printer trying to tear up all the internal whirling bits with his bare claws.
- Soup in a TARDIS
Too Funny! Reminds me of the San Mateo Cat Shelter where one of the cats loves to sleep on top of the laster printer where the paper comes out...
- Greg Lato
1600+ to beat the FFundercats live chat thread. I think with this real time now on all threads we're going to see some truly epic comment numbers.
- Simon Wicks
Ivan, no the picture speaks for itself. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Petr, I have no idea what you mean, but thank you. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
@Kol .. :] that, partially, might have been the purpose.... I don't know it exactly either. :] .. was I reflecting on a cat under the fax, and that it is hard to fax that way ... /?:] ... "underfaxing at its worst" ..
- pb:
there ya have me ! :] .... see, to be honest with you, i saw this pic couple days ago, but i let it go, without posting it ..... what does that make me? :]
- pb:
even a flat cat... faxes just can't handle the hair. You'd have to shave the cat first, else the hair will burn and stick to the drum... a mess! (I am extrapolating from transparencies, mind, i don't have access to a cat to test)
- Iphigenie
Hehe, Joelle. This is now tied for the 'likes' top stop. One more then, hehe. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Hehe, Greg. Blimey! Erm, is that not far from 500 likes now? ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Bloody marvelous, Kol. Wish I could like it again... too cute (and help u to 500 likes).
- Roberto Bonini
I couldn't believe it when I logged on from the morning over posting it and saw it was at something 200 likes! You all have a strange fetish with cats and fax machines, hehe. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Am I the only one who saw this and their first thought was - My goodness did someone break that cats neck? It still freaks me out a little
- SteVe C
Steve, it does look a little out of place, but cats are pretty bendy. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
They fax much better if you flatten them first. What?
- The original Kevin
So we can put this post to rest now. :-) 505 likes final count, wow! :-D Good night all!
- Kol Tregaskes
did 3 people really un-like this? now at 506. wtf (edit: uh, oh, yeah, me and 2 + 506 others makes 509. dammit, jim, i'm an artist, not a mathematician)
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
One of the best funny cat pictures I've seen! :-)
- John Collis
Kristian, it appears to be. Hehe, John.
- Kol Tregaskes
ای بابا این پیشول بی خیال نمی شود، بابا پاشو برو دنبال یه بازی دیگه ، از هفته پیش تا حالا تو فکس ولو شدی حوصله ات سر نرفته، پاشو اقلا بپر رو کیبوردی چیزی
- Maryaminaa
It's really only social convention which regards it as inappropriate, same with Xeroxing it, like one does with their b__tocks. Wait are we still talking about cats cats here or...
- The Real sofarsoShawn
OMGosh 700+ likes now!! LOL. Thank you all 702 of you. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
First flying sharks, now flying stingrays... we're all going to die!
- Georgia
Next you're going to tell me there are giant squid capable of taking down an airliner.
- Brian Johns
I wouldn't know about that, Brian. I stopped watching Lost during the first season.
- Kevin Fox
I believe this picture was taken across the harbour from where I am sitting at my desk...this same pic was in the NZ Hearld. Whales do chase the sting rays...and then they tear open their midsections...apparently, that is the part of the stingray that the whales like.
- Skye Miller
never too late to catch up on Lost, Kevin. You still have some months ;)
- Adam Lasnik
"Okay, Whale, this is fun but exhausting! Now it's your turn!"
- Adam Lasnik
This is awesome....and oddly frightening
- Rah-PM 2012
"Ben & Jerry's wins the Pro-Gay Marriage Sign of the Day award for this gem (spotted in a Cambridge, MA T-station). Yeah, they went there."
- The Fat Oracle
from Bookmarklet
i know they use "black dog" as a metaphor for depression, but that's because they haven't met pippi
- Iphigenie
Hmm could that explain your sunny disposition (or your intensive use of ":D") these days?
- Meryn Stol
My one springer lays on his side and pretend swims, we sing the "I'm a Happy Dog" song and it wires him out even more. You are right - no matter how pissy you feel a happy dog with make it better.
- Janet-The Bottley Crue
there's an "I'm a Happy Dog" song? Link! link!
- Iphigenie
@meryn I'm a pessimist with a very cheery disposition, that came before the dog
- Iphigenie
@Joelle, it is a take off a dog food commercial, I think it was Kibbles and Bits. Just start singing "I'mmmmmm a Haaaaaaapppy Dog" and repeat. It wires them out.
- Janet-The Bottley Crue
glad to know i am not the only one singing to my dog :D
- Iphigenie
"a pessimist with a very cheery disposition" - a woman of opposites, huh? ;)
- Meryn Stol
We're all people of opposites and contradictions :D But in my case it's not even really a contradiction - you can think that things might go wrong and prepare for all sorts of contigency, and try to prevent it, and carry on cheerfully - life's too short and too beautiful to waste on taking oneself too seriously and being gloomy (although I *am* world class champion at complaining). Or in more candid terms: Shit happens, expect it and pack some wipes, laugh it off and life goes on
- Iphigenie
Thinking things might go wrong - and subsequently preparing for that - is more like being careful than being pessimistic, wouldn't you say? Still, only thing I can say is that you've got a really peculiar mindset, something inexplicable. Not in a negative sense though. I've never seen the words you use coming together in sentences before. I can't touch it. It kind of fits with your claim that it's either "hit or miss" for people who might want to hire you.
- Meryn Stol
OTOH, I do have the feeling that in a meeting discussing some new idea, you'd every time be the one proclaiming "This is never gonna work.". With the added note that you'd actually be making sense, and people would be annoyed because they wouldn't easily be able to refute your arguments. But that would actually improve group resilience, because in the end, you are a team-player. Ok, now tell me how wrong I am on this. :)
- Meryn Stol
You're puzzling me about the words i use etc. As for pessimism, I'm far too practical to just go "this is never going to work" - I'm more the annoying one who is following the idea through down the road and figuring out the kinks and risks, needs and consequences (good and bad). But you have to, really, when you're the one who'll be held responsible for the success/failure of the...
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- Iphigenie
"following the idea through down the road and figuring out the kinks and risks, needs and consequences" - That's what I meant with "you'd be making sense". The "This is never gonna work" was more meant as a metaphor. In conversation with me you've shown quite a ability to zoom in on the weaknesses of certain plans. I think you're quite good at keeping people grounded when they get unrealistic in their enthusiasm.
- Meryn Stol
i guess that's what i mean when i say i am a pessimist with a cheery disposition - I am a very enthusiastic person, and usually infectious in my enthusiasm about a plan or venture or product, but it is always with a very clear idea of risks and threats and limitations. If you ask people who worked with/under me you'll probably get people who mostly remember/notice the...
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- Iphigenie
having a dog has greatly revived the spontaneous, silly, eccentric, dont-care-to-fit-standard-roles side of me - does it do that to everyone, and is that what a "dog person" is, someone who still has a near-childlike side that makes them enjoy time with a dog to let this out?
- Iphigenie
Maybe so, but I think adults are merely posing anyway. :)
- Meryn Stol
The knees belong to Chandrasekar Rathakrishnan, founder and CEO of http://fusiongarage.com -- which is doing the engineering work on the CrunchPad, the Tablet PCs that TechCrunch is making. Mike Arrington, founder of TechCrunch, is Twittering while riding his new Segway. Calacanis is Twittering too. The rest of the office is trying to get some work done. By the way, I met my wife in this office 10 years ago when I helped interview her for a job. The office also is where Doc Searls had his marketing company (the beginnings of Cluetrain Manifesto came from here).
- Robert Scoble
from Bookmarklet
Maryam and I worked right about where Heather is standing. By the way, this used to be Palo Alto's Mortuary. Off to find info about that. Bummer, not much info about this office is online.
- Robert Scoble
Didn't he say he'd kick your ass if you showed any Crunchpad pics? I got your back though, no worries. Btw, he's totally fug.
- The Real sofarsoShawn
Slightly off topic: Using a Cannon 5D mark II in a well lit room? Almost seems like a waste. Sometime when you are in the northwest we need to go see a band play at one of the dark dive clubs I take photos in. I want to see how it works in that situation.
- MarkCarras
Mark: yeah, shooting at 6400 ISO too. It is an awesome camera. Used my 24 mm F2.8 prime lens.
- Robert Scoble
If only Scoble was in the pic that would be the nerdiest photo ever.
- Jonathan Coffman
sofaroshawn: I'm not too worried about Mike. Anyway, me thinks he really wanted the PR for the CrunchPad. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Just now realizing that I live almost next door to the new techcrunch office. pretty sweet place!
- Blake
Scoble: What is this colorful display on the table?
- Rafael
Rafael: those are the prototypes of the CrunchPad.
- Robert Scoble
Yeah, this office is on Lytton in Palo Alto at the corner of Ramona.
- Robert Scoble
I saw the CrunchPad when I was there that morning as well and was sworn not to mention/blog about it. But it looks like that didn't last long! :)
- Louis Gray
Dave McClure was first to post images from that day, so you guys are probably all just fine. :-) I don't think it's much of a secret any more.
- Jesse Stay
Intel Atom, you say... wish'em luck - they will need it...
- A. T.
Louis: I didn't agree to any embargo. And, anyway, it's TechCrunch. You know, those guys who don't agree to embargoes anyway! And I only posted this after Calacanis posted his own pictures. So there. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Are you guys seriously worrying about breaking a TECHCRUNCH embargo? Techcrunch doesn't seem too worried about embargos on their blogs.
- Jim Connolly
Awesome, Mike reminds me of Job on Arrested Development. Does he have his title stitched on the front of the bag?
- Ryan
From an online forum. "
I was talking to this dude about Java. He was like, "I like it!"
I was like, "It gives me hives!"
He said, "Really?"
I said, "No. It gives me HiveFactoryConstructors, which give me HiveFactories, which give me Hives." "
seriously considering a Kindle ....hmmm
- Susan Beebe
I was very close to buying one of these myself this past week but decided on a full-format DSLR instead. I can't stand the form factor of the Kindle but I really like the idea of being able to get books instantly rather than having to wait for overnight shipping (as an Amazon Prime customer, of course). I will wait until it's full-color and has a touch screen.
- Akiva
Man i wish it was cheaper. Can't wait to hear your thoughts on it.
- Frankie Warren
I think a touch screen is not nearly as important as some people think. It's supposed to be like reading a book, you just need to flip pages. Carrying Wikipedia with me where ever I go is super nice too.
- Pat Hawks
Right, and I want to flip pages with my fingers.
- Akiva
But it would drain the battery. I'd rather have good battery life.
- Pat Hawks
Total cost = cost of the device - there's no charge for the wireless radio. You pay for the content - books are per download; newspapers, magazines, blogs are monthly subscriptions; they offer a service where you can e-mail any PDF to your Kindle for $.10 per PDF (you can do this conversion from the Amazon website and upload via USB for free) - that's it
- Ankush Narula
Once the Kindle for iPhone app arrived with WhisperSync, that was it for me. Bought it a week ago and already read four books. Just bought a fifth while eating lunch today.
- Kevin C. Tofel
Good questions should always be answerable by yes, no, or I don't know. If it can't be answered by one of those three it means you need to define the question better, or ask a lot more questions.
- Sparky, lurking
A good question is followed by the answer you're looking for, more often times than not.
- Mona Nomura
from fftogo
Oh I do bash closed-minded Apple people together with their apple products. Like: we are in 2009, where is that FLASH on your iPhonie? '_
- Sasha Kovaliov
Thank you, Mark. I am really tired of rabid evangelistas of anything, particularly when the implication is that anyone who doesn't choose Brand Y needs a brain implant. Needs, preferences, resources, and skills VARY. And a good thing, too, or creativity would come to a halt.
- Rebecca Lasley
I run Windows and Linux. It all works, but for different things. Once upon a time, I was paid to program on Windows. Now I get paid to program on Linux.
- Piaw Na
All I'm saying is that I agree that there are valid reasons to buy a Windows PC over a Mac, but price alone ain't it, since it's obviously cheaper to just build your own machine and install Linux on it.
- Victor Ganata
I bash Macs on the basis of price. I also bash Windows PCs. Linux and FreeBSD is how I roll.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
I argue that as a matter of practicality, unless your time isn't worth anything, paying a manufacturer who has economies of scale to build something for you is a fine decision. Now, when that same manufacturer has a 30% profit margin and everyone else who's doing manufacturing has 5-10% margins, then you have to decide whether the value add is worth so much more than everyone else's. It turns out that during a recession, the perceived value-add of something like "coolness" can turn out to be lower...
- Piaw Na
I bash everything! all OSes suck in many different ways.
- mjc
Piaw, that's the attitude I find irritating. Do you ever consider that there are other advantages to owning a non-Windows machine that is fully supported by a vendor besides "being cool"?
- Victor Ganata
Chris White, that implies that free computer software is permanently inferior to costly, proprietary equivalents.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
That doesn't work, getting support for/learning Linux can take time, time = money, I wouldn't put price on the list as an advantage over windows for an individual user.
- Richard Lawler
Chris, that isn't a good analogy. If somebody wants to build a car for to give to somebody else for free, he or she will have to pay money out of his or her pocket in addition to the time spent building the car. If somebody wants to write a computer operating system for free, the only thing consumed is time.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
Why do people (Mac users in my exp) get so emotionally invested in this argument? It's a tool, like a screwdriver. When's the last time you heard two ppl going at it over which floor mop was the best value?
- dpurrington
from BuddyFeed
Dave, part of it is that the choice of one person's tool, in the case of computers, can affect the effectiveness of other tools. For example, if I have a family member in my home that refuses to use anything except Windows, and all the other computers are Linux, that slightly complicates building a home network.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
Chris, I do not think the best people, or any people, do ALL of their work for free. Don't you know anybody that has done some sort of volunteering for a charity organization?
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
Chris, I think we had that argument on friendfeed like two months ago.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
As far as Linux goes, there really isn't a comparison (historically at least). Linux is a good OS but it has not been very user friendly nor performant in the desktop arena. That's been my exp. anyway, but I'll keep trying (ubuntu looks cool)
- dpurrington
from BuddyFeed
Chris, "Given enough eyeballs, all bugs are shallow," as Linus's Law, according to Eric S. Raymond, states (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...). The open source environment has the potential for a far larger number of eyeballs looking at a problem than a closed-source corporate environment. Why? Because the closed-source environment has to have enough resources to pay every pair of eyeballs. This limitation does not exist in the open-source environment.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
Mark, many open source developers are writing things that they themselves use frequently. It isn't about giving your time away, but sharing what you have made for yourself.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
Chris, now I'm confused. Have I been arguing against the wrong person?
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
Good point, Mark. I shall now use the term "Free software". My apologies, Chris. I also checked your blog and saw you use Apache and Wordpress.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
But regardless of who I am debating, I still maintain that free software can easily be superior to all proprietary equivalents, and that there is much free software out there that is already superior to proprietary equivalents. Linux on the server, and *almost* on the desktop, is among the free software that is superior to costly proprietary equivalents.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
I have NEVER tried a computer with Linux on it in my life.
- Michael Forian
I don't think "you get what you pay for" applies to computer software. Copies of software can be created at a *very* little cost. In addition, because anybody that can make improvements is allowed to make improvements, it is possible (given powerful enough methods of communication) that a vastly larger crowd of developers could be working on an open source application than a comparable proprietary application. These two factors are not the only reasons for why FOSS (free open source software) can break...
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
Chris, Kobe, of course. I assume you are using that analogy to make the point that a skilled, paid programmer will do a better job than an unskilled, unpaid programmer. But unlike in basketball, one computer programmer can improve the existing work of another computer programmer. Kobe cannot "fix" a missed basket thrown by somebody else, but (assuming he has the skills) he can fix a program written by somebody else. With open source programming, experts from all around the world are open to fix a...
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
(continued from above) ...program. The result is an improved codebase. In addition, many hands make light work, and free open source software allows for more hands. Like I said in some comment above, an organization producing costly closed-source programs has a limit of employees that can be added due to the need to pay them all. This limitation does not exist with open source, and, assuming proper management, the result is a good product.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
I wouldn't say I'm a basher, but I do not believe that running Windows invalidates the price -only argument. Sometimes the cheapest solution isn't the best. If one can't afford the top of the line, one goes down the middle. If one works in education, running a Windows OS can be just as inexpensive as running Linux or a BSD distro. If one can't build a computer, then one buys a computer, and a computer that comes with Windows costs less than a computer that comes with OS X.
- MiniMage, enterRUPPted
Chris, could you give an example of a proprietary U/X innovation so I know what specifically to answer with?
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
I first commented "package managers", but then I realized that isn't really what you mean.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
Nobody I know who bashes Macs and prefers Windows has ever actually paid for Windows and they tend to run one of those modified versions like Black or TinyXP or whatever the new versions are.
- Rob H.
Well, yeah, if you pirate it, then I can see how you can win the price argument.
- Victor Ganata
I run straight Ubuntu on the Old Beast. Gave up on XP a few years ago.
- Steven Perez
I mean, can't you apply the time-is-money argument for buying a Mac? How much time does the average Windows user spend defragging, scanning for viruses, rebooting, reformatting, reinstalling over the lifetime of a machine?
- Victor Ganata
You don't sit waiting for a defrag to happen; you do it on break or while sleeping (I rarely do it). I install my AV software and forget about it. I reboot my XP machines less than once a week. I rarely do an install on my PCs from scratch. Am I the average user? I've been a PC support tech for > a decade; probably not. Ask my brother how well his older MacBooks work after a relative got her hands on them. One day, Macites might realize that different people can achieve things with different solutions...
- MiniMage, enterRUPPted
The average Windows user doesn't spend any time doing that stuff. I've had my Windows machines for years and not had to do any of that stuff. Your image of Windows is dated from 1995. XP and up has been incredibly stable for me. My linux machine in 2003 wasn't nearly as stable as my XP box from the same era. Linux has also gotten more stable since 2003.
- Piaw Na
I have a MacBook, so I don't believe one can attribute my stance to ignorance. It was fun playing with it for a few months, but then I went back to the machines that help me work and play without the additional angst. I can't update my Project Server tasks on a danged Mac without a VM or remote connection to another machine. I can't update my tickets; there's no Mac client. Is there a Netmotion VPN client, yet? Still scared to update to Leopard (remember the BSODs and dead keys?).
- MiniMage, enterRUPPted
I don't think that the time-is-money argument can be applied to Mac vs. PC (vs. Linux) for home computing. Can you really say with 100% certainty that a given user, if he did not have to regularly reinstall Windows, that he could put *all* that time to something money-producing? It is most likely that such home PC maintenance tasks are done during what otherwise would be leisure time.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
leisure time is also valuable, taking a weekend to set up a new OS isn't something I'd write off, and when you need to open up a document (for example) and have to learn something new about the OS to do it....that's not leisure time.
- Richard Lawler
Piaw, yeah, I realize that things are a lot better than in 1995, and XP seems to be a pretty solid OS, but it still seems like it's hard to recover from hangs, and you have to reboot a lot. Then again, I never have admin access on any of the Windows machines I have to use.
- Victor Ganata
Folks would be more likely to have to learn something new building a PC and going with a free Linux solution instead of Windows. I had to research an option to allow me to auto-login to Cisco VPN with OS X; the info for doing that in Windows was already available to me. If you start a maintenance task, then wander off to watch a sporting event, how much time have you wasted?
- MiniMage, enterRUPPted
Who has to reboot a lot? I reboot every few weeks or so, and my PCs don't have hangs any moreso than the Macs I use, which is pretty infrequently on both, and usually firefox related, on both..
- Richard Lawler
Leisure time is valuable? Yes, but the value of leisure time does not justify the cost of a more expensive solution, even if it does free up some more time. It is like paying somebody else to assemble a bookshelf compared to assembling the bookshelf yourself. Unless you could actually be generating more money (compared to the cost of paying somebody to assemble it) at any time of day when you would normally be assembling the bookshelf, assembling the bookshelf yourself is the more economical option.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
Victor, my Windows laptops and tablets have done a heck of a better job at letting the user back in from sleep than my MacBook and my friend's MacBook Pro. Basically, it was a coin toss as to whether or not that beach ball would stop spinning and let us in. My friend had to hard reboot; I had to close the cover and open it again, and it would usually condescend to let me in the second time.
- MiniMage, enterRUPPted
You change your own oil possible? You cut your own grass? You do all your household maintenance on your own? Ever eat fast food, ever? My time is valuable and its probably my #1 deciding factor in what to do, whether it's 9-5 (if I worked a regular 9-5) or not.
- Richard Lawler
@MiniMage It sounds like your uses for your computer are precisely the reason to buy a Windows PC. As a Mac and Linux user, I guess I've gotten conditioned to the relative dearth of software, and have so far managed to adapt to Windows-centric workplaces without running Windows. I realize not everyone has that opportunity, though. As for Leopard, I've even got it running on an old iBook G4, and things seem to run smoothly, it may be because my uses differ from yours.
- Victor Ganata
I'm curious, what is the average uptime for a Windows PC these days?
- Victor Ganata
I've been using UNIX since the 90s, and Linux, while fun and challenging, is time-consuming. Do I want a GUI for playing music? Well, now, I have to go find that, install it, and hope it plays OGG and MP3. I usually have to forget about WMA. Upgrading Firefox on Ubuntu was a horrid experience; I hope it's gotten easier to install the latest release since then. Cisco VPN was a battle on Ubuntu; I found all these wacky, convoluted instructions that failed, but then it showed up in the package installer.
- MiniMage, enterRUPPted
I'm using Linux right now, never to return to Windows ever again.
- ::Kristen::
I try to make sure I run several operating systems; each has something to teach me, and as an IT person, I see the battles (desired and undesired) as professional development.
- MiniMage, enterRUPPted
Richard, I only brought up the fact that only leisure time is being wasted as to debunk the idea that Macs save money because they save time, thus offsetting the higher cost of Macs to make them cheaper. People are free to take the expensive, non-productive-time-saving route, but it doesn't make it cheaper than the leisure-time-consuming route.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
Can't tell you what my home PC's uptime is like; I popped a circuit [edit: I might mean breaker] last night, and I need to stop being a miser and get a bigger UPS. As with my Mac, I only reboot long after updates demand it. Why IS it that Macs want to reboot after updates? My friend told me years ago that FreeBSD versions could undergo full upgrades without requiring a reboot.
- MiniMage, enterRUPPted
No matter what OS we're talking about, "leisure" time has value, it can't be simply tossed aside.
- Richard Lawler
@MiniMage I imagine that if you update the kernel, no matter what OS you're running, you're going to have to reboot. Compared to other *NIXes, OS X does seem to require reboots rather often, but it still doesn't feel as often as in Windows.
- Victor Ganata
Richard, again, I am not saying that leisure time should be thrown out of the window. I am saying that paying a premium for more leisure time does not lower the bills.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
That's gotta be the most rational way to look at this: always use the right tool for the job.
- Victor Ganata
but it does lower the bills, if for example you spend that weekend working on your car, cooking your own meals, finding the best deal on other purchases, etc. There's definitely an effect on the wallet
- Richard Lawler
Victor: Nobody is saying to *not* use the best tool for the job. A lot of us just think that one tool can help complete many jobs.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
Victor, my uptime for XP is measured in time between Microsoft updates which happen automatically at night. So nowadays it's typically months. :-) I don't defrag my hard drive. And of course, irony of ironies, my Windows XP box is a Mac Mini that I converted after I got frustrated one too many times with Mac OS X. Of course, the thing that frustrated me was one of the fixes introduced in Leopard, but by then it was too late. An XP license was $35 (employee discount), and Leopard cost 3X that much.
- Piaw Na
wat? I have no idea what your definition of leisure time is, but we disagree. I've installed linux, but I don't use it a lot since I haven't taken the time to identify and become familiar with the equivalent tools I'd need.
- Richard Lawler
Piaw, but is that typical for anyone who uses a Windows box?
- Victor Ganata
My definition of leisure time is when one does something relaxing without achieving any other goal except evading work and boredom. Cooking meals and working on a car do not fit into my definition of leisure activities.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
so any time dicking around with a new OS isn't leisure time, thank you, my point stands.
- Richard Lawler
I'll bash all operating systems, in the meantime this thread being the most popular shows what niche friendfeed is idea for at this moment in time.
- Richard A.
It isn't necessary to sit in front of a computer and fret while it does updates or defrags. You start the thing, then you go do your leisure stuff. Your day won't be ruined. Of course, I can't actually remember when I last defragged my Wintel.
- MiniMage, enterRUPPted
You never have to defrag a Mac or Linux box, though.
- Victor Ganata
Run both, prefer Mac. ROI over 20 years definitely in favor of Mac. Linux would take me time to learn and I am too near retirement. If I have a job due in a hurry, I fire up Quark Express or Photoshop on the Mac and I know the drivers will work. I know not one secretary has downloaded some crap that somehow got past the firewall or some e-mail attachment because MIS has forced Windows on all the bean counters and pencil pushers. If I do have a problem, and I confess to 2 or 3 over 20+ years, I fix it.
- Phil Boiarski
Richard, spending time learning about a new operating system isn't leisure time, but that itself can save you leisure time later on. Keep in mind that this does not affect my original argument that saving leisure time DOESN'T save money. In addition, my operating system of choice, Linux, saves leisure time AND money. When I finally switched to Linux on the desktop (previously, I had only used it on the server), I had no trouble figuring out the operating system.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
I had no trouble figuring out desktop Linux not because of server experience, but because my favorite applications (GIMP, Pidgin, Inkscape, Firefox) were also on Linux. In addition, the GUI configuration utilities (I did programming on the server, not systems administration) were easy and helpful. The result? I saved time, money, and frustration. Granted, if you do not have experience with your favorite applications, it is going to be more difficult.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
Regardless, many GUI Linux applications (especially the GTK+/GNOME ones) have easy to understand user interfaces, and a few applications on Linux have strikingly similar equivalents on the Windows side (Mousepad and Windows Notepad).
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
Granted, any *NIX has a steep learning curve, but once you've gotten past that, you've got a tremendous amount of power at your fingertips.
- Victor Ganata
I've used GIMP, Pidgin and Firefox on windows and linux and it's not an easy switch. Once you've learned the OS, getting them installed isn't hard, but then when you want to upgrade java/flash or add a filter or something, there's a learning curve that doesn't exist on Windows or Macs. We've gone in a circle on the time/money argument, I'm glad you have a system that benefits you, but I disagree with you on how most people use their systems and view their time.
- Richard Lawler
he he... I do this all the time anyways :)
- Bindu Reddy
I was going to say what Scoble said. I guess we're both thinking about food. Off to get a Five Guys burger (an East Coast thing).
- Andrew Leyden
will you outsource the consequences of those choices too!!
- abdellah
crowd-sourcing — nice technique for most important things in our life :-)
- я думаю
Would you (or, more realistically, would the insurance companies) still pay me if I crowd-sourced your symptoms to get a diagnosis? I wonder how much the malpractice premium would be for a crowd?
- Victor Ganata
you could always use a magic eightball too.
- Thomas Hawk
Have you really thought this over or are you asking our opinion? ;)
- Jemm
Sure, what's the first decision we have to make for you? Wait I'm not a follower yet.
- Richard A.
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- Anne Bouey
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Once too often I opened the freezer to have items fall on my head. Furious -- overstuffing the freezer was a longstanding issue in the household -- I threw the bags of vegetables across the room. One broke and scattered frozen corn all over the kitchen. I think that's when I stopped throwing things. The results were never as intended.
- Rebecca Lasley
I have a garden fork (read: small pitch fork). I could throw that if you like...
- FFing Enigma
I wish I could say I had no idea what you were talking about. I have had a few of these types of meltdowns - sadly.
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
Nobody pushes me when I get mad and am in the kitchen; used to play cricket and can throw fast and accurately. Guess they worry about the rack of razor sharp knives :-)
- Sally Church
From New Scientist: "Dough, wonga, greenbacks, cash. Just words, you might say, but they carry an eerie psychological force. Chew them over for a few moments, and you will become a different person. Simply thinking about words associated with money seems to makes us more self-reliant and less inclined to help others. And it gets weirder: just handling cash can take the sting out of social rejection and even diminish physical pain."
- Mark Trapp
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Yes, that's why it says: "The love of money is the root of all evil." It's not the money itself; it's our feelings towards it.
- Melanie Reed
Go ahead and try to have a bad attitude after meeting Milan. He's my happiness monster. Eats up stress and spits it out with a smile.
- Robert Scoble
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