check out js-kit for integration - Loic - talk to Khris at js-kit and get Seesmic integrated for comment re-integration - Ivan Pope via twhirl
Disqus automatically integrating FF comments would be great. - Kevin Bondelli
I don’t believe it is ethical to claim comments back from people who write them on FriendFeed. This means imposing power on your readers. If people want to comment on your blog, they can do it but that is not their preference. And you are not asking people if they want their comments to be seen on your blog. - Kerem Ozkan
I don't care where it takes place. I', just happy to have a good conversation. - shelisrael1
i'd love disqus to do this, as that would be one less plug in (ff comments) installed on my blog - Jason Kaneshiro
Though, if it weren't for friendfeed, many folks like me probably wouldn't see it to start with. - adam christensen
but to comment on FF is so much more easier and faster...it's Twhirl fault !! - Jean-François Amadei via twhirl
Yeah, the same for me. I've installed the WP plugin, but it keeps telling me there aren't comments on FriendFeed. - Gianluca Neri via twhirl
Guess it might be too late to capitalize on my Disqus-friendfeed comment combiner, huh? - klecu
I'm connected to many of the same people on each network, unless it's a diff medium like vid. I'm not sure of the value of more. - jjprojects
me too - but I do have to say - kwippy.com is the best one I've joined in the past 4 months... sadly, it's not picking up b/c of timing. Too many people being inundated with other socnets to want to add one more. - Lucretia Pruitt
...unless the new network is obvious really good and different, then I'll jump in :) - jjprojects
Lucretia, yes I've seen people joining. What's good about it? I've joing identi.ca and Plurk in the last few weeks. Do I need it too? - jjprojects
I prefer kwippy.com to both plurk & identi.ca - comment threading a la friendfeed. No post-length limit. IM &/or email notification. Same sort of visual appeal as Twitter. Have talked to the developer a bit - there's a lot in the works, but the functionality already there is good. It's kind of like FF w/o all the extraneous stuff, and with the good parts of Twitter still. If you'd like to see it, let me send you an invite - it's still in beta, but everyone gets 25 invites. So it's growing, but stable. - Lucretia Pruitt
In part via Dave Winer, was it? What, just because he's famous and I'm nobody he gets the credit for his part (which I said first but no-one is listening http://pastoid.com/yy+) but I get no credit for telling you how to subscribe across installs, http://pastoid.com/yz+ (I'm just kidding ;) - Michael C. Harris
Seriously though, nice article. I doubt that any of the people doing installs now are going to try to be a competitor to identi.ca. Most of them are actively helping Evan out. - Michael C. Harris
Michael, apologies, I should hat tipped it. I spent 4 hours shopping for a birthday present for my wife today, I feel frazzled, so cut me some slack :-) - Duncan Riley
When it's open source, do you call them clones, or is it part of the same thing? - jjprojects
Slack cut, it was way too cold to be shopping today. - Michael C. Harris
Michael, it pissed down when I came out of Chaddy as well...just my luck. JJ, good point, I tossed up alternatives, but clones was short for the headline :-) - Duncan Riley
the open source nature of Identi.ca is going to be fun to watch.. hopefully most dev efforts will go towards helping Evan further develop Identi.ca. - Susan Beebe
Duncan, heh, I didn't expect that, I was just kidding, but thanks. And you get even more slack cut just for having to go to Chadstone :) - Michael C. Harris
Can you choose to one update one if you want to. When I looked at ping, there only seemed to be the option to update both at once. - jjprojects
My plan was, since ping.fm now allows posting to friendfeed, I thought I would remove twitter completely from my list on friendfeed so that it wouldn't create duplicates. Unfortunately, this didn't work out well since ping.fm is having some issues with rate limits to friendfeed. Not sure when they will get it fixed. So, twitter is back on my ff list. I got this idea from l0ckergn0me. :) - Dennis Jackson
@jjprojects I use the Ping.fm Facebook application to post to an individual service! - Joe Dawson
“Yuvi made a comment on another thread about the Metric System in the US. Or lack thereof. It's funny how some things are, like 2 liters of Soda. Go, conversate!”
I live in a US territory where the speed limit is in miles per hour, but the distance signs between towns, cities, and expressway exits are in kilometers. Gas is sold in cents per liter, milk per gallon (plastic) or quart cartons. At least the cars have both miles per hour and km per hour speedometers as they do in USA and Canada, but the odometers are in miles! - Dread Pirate PJ
PJ crying in your beer again-tears/ml beer/fl oz. - Mark Forman
The fact is the the US needs to get with the program. Miles, gallons, pints, pounds? C'mon! It's easier doing things in 10s isn't it? Is it too expensive to change or something? Much of the world has had it for decades now. Suck it up and do it y'all :P - jjprojects
Come now, you know Americans hate change! Our 2 liters of soda is about it. (We do use metric along with american standard, but it's ignored by the people) - Eric Rice
The only reason USA uses metric is because you share some products with Canada and Mexico. The manufacturers and packagers don't want to make separate labels for the same product just because one of the three NAFTA countries isn't metric. So they put both metric and "american standard" on the packaging. That's why your 2 liter bottle of soda says "2 liter 67.6 fl oz (2 qt 3.6 oz)". ;-) - Dread Pirate PJ
Actually, this practice of standardizing on one size and packaging for product shared among the three countries is older than NAFTA, so forget I mentioned it. - Dread Pirate PJ
Forgotten-looking for my .6 fluid ounces of White Out - Mark Forman
I just feel sorry for the kids having to learn all the odd measurements, when they could be just learning decimals instead. What a crazy thing to hold on to. - jjprojects
You used "conversate" just to annoy me didn't you? Jerk. :P - Erica Baker
Born in early-seventies UK, I am fully conversant in both forms of measurement. Other people, however, sometimes look at me sideways when I ask them to cut something 3 feet by 180mm. Even more so when I tell them to make it half a digit thick! - Slippy Lane
Running events: 5K 10K races. I've spent my whole life metric so I'm always a little confused about distances in miles. - melmcbride
I survived the change from Imperial to Metric in Canada and like Andrew Smith I still use pounds and ft/in for personal measurements. Strangely enough my (now adult) children who grew up only knowing metric do as well. - Brian Sullivan
In the third grade, 1978, in Georgia my math teacher said "OK, we've got to learn the metric system, because the US is going to switch over to it SOON!" Apparently we had plenty of time to learn it. :-) - Joey Gibson via twhirl
When you're a kid in the U.S., you don't think of it as hard to learn. You don't know anything different! You learn it just like you do your ABC's. There's 12 inches in a foot, 3 feet in a yard, and 5,280 feet in a mile. The hard part is when you get to high school science classes. That's when I learned there are 2.54 cm in an inch and how to convert from C to F. - Matt
It's kinda hard to visualize distance in metric, even though I know the math is easy. I kinda have a grasp on how big 100 yards is, or 1/4 mile, etc. Only lately, have I started to realize the distance of 256 m. - Eric Rice
I'm still trying to figure out a reason to use identi.ca. Playing around with it. We'll see. - Dennis Jackson
I don't understand why it was launched WITHOUT a Replies tab in the first place... - Mark Douglass
I agree with Dennis Jackson, minus the "playing around with it" part. - ChaCha Fance
Yes, it lacks some basic features, especially if people are looking at it who are coming from twitter. Not having replies really annoys me, enough not to use it. - jjprojects
GOOD, that is an essential feature... neat to see it growing so quickly - not only with users, but also features - Susan Beebe
Yep - looks like identi.ca has been built correctly so far too. It *appears* to be scaleing up nicely after a few slow days early on. - Jonathan Beckett
@critics: Identi.ca is worth supporting, because it is open source. The very reason means that it has the potential of attracting third-party developers that create plug-ins, improve the platform or simply host their own Identi.ca-installations. That's a huge thing. Think about Firefox: It is based on Mozilla/Netscape's code, which was created. AOL didn't do anything with it, but others came and created Firefox (and Flock, Sunbird, Songbird, etc.) because it is open. That's Identi.ca's biggest feature. - sebmos
sebmos: I'm still learning about Identi.ca. Your comment kind of pushed me back on the site to research it a bit. I can see this going somewhere. :) - Dennis Jackson
Replies tab on Indenti.ca is big. I'd also like to be able to export my subscription lists. Edit/delete would be nice too. - Jeff Evans
Nice to see this feature already. I was talking to the dev yesterday and was asking if I can jump in and provide a solution for it. Cool to see that the guy already did it himself :-). - Alex Popescu via feedalizr
Mark Douglass - Twitter launched without a replies function as well, you know. And it took a lot longer than a few days for it to arrive. - Earle Martin
So if we wildly extrapolate identi.ca's usability increase, it could potentially surpass Twitter in 3 months and Friendfeed in 6. The question then is: will users migrate and become critical mass on the new service? By now we know that critical mass is more important than QoS, as evidenced by the bird and the whale. - µnauta
identi.ca is irrelevant. It's a step backwards from FriendFeed. - Thomas Hawk
Whoa, that must of been some seriously shitty software before now, but still shitty I see? - Andrew Baron
This still is not the distributed version you wanted Dave. And I -with all the respect I owe to its makers- don't think that it will success if all the twitter crowd come in. I hope I'm wrong - directeur via NoiseRiver
I think Replies is a setup in the right direction. In fact. it might be the main step. Awesome. - Andrew Ruess via twhirl
Agree with Alan Le. identi.ca doesn't seem like much of an upgrade. It's a distraction from a better solution - getting everyone over to FriendFeed. - Jon Galloway
Yep, i'm with Jon there... I really don't see the fuss Identi.ca . Why are we getting excited over replies...ridiculous. - Zee from WeDoCreative
These products are all so new. There's plenty or room for experimentation. - Harry Myhre
Thanks, Dave! And thanks to everyone who had comments and critiques. I know that people have a choice in which service to use. I'd like to make sure that a) the software has features equal or better to other µblog sites b) the architecture is truly scalable -- from small commodity web hosting to >1M user megaservices. - Evan Prodromou
“Do you feel oblged to loudly announce who you've just blocked, or do you just do it? Do you ever take people out of the penalty box? Do you ever announce this?”
There seems to be camaraderie around blocking certain people. I can think of two people who, every time someone announces that they've been blocked, spark a huge discussion of "me toos" and war stories of people's interactions with them. There's a car wreck-like fascination people have about relationships that don't work out such that you have to break out big guns like block (or restraining orders, calling the cops, etc). - Mark Trapp
I'm about 50/50. Sometimes I talk about people I block, cause I think there's some value in doing it in public. Other times I just do it quietly. - Robert Scoble
I would also think that most people who do something to cause them to get blocked want the attention, and that gives it to them. Kinda like the criminals who leave calling cards to get notoriety. And by the way, I blocked BDD694ever. - Trish Robinson
there are 1 or two people that I don't subscribe to because I think they are disrespectful to others other than that I haven't blocked anyone yet and I plan on holding out as long as possible - I don't even block or hide people who post messages in other languages because many of them post story links in english even though they may comment in russian or arabic - I really want to be able to see what stories and sources of information they use - Marco
I think about 99% of the time, talking about who you've blocked makes you look like a high school drama queen. I think that 1% is okay if you're making an example out of a scam artist or a spammer, but if it's for an ideological or personal reason, it isn't needed. - Shawn Farner
I've not felt the need to block anyone, yet. Although, I have blocked some with questionable content (someone who appeared to be spam). I just don't think blocking willy-nilly is the best way to socialize. - Les
I don't recall having blocked anyone outside of IRC. - MiniMage
depends. Certainly when there was some really offensive trolling a while back, announcing the block seemed to give others confidence in doing the same, but I don't make a habit of it. Scoble sums up my view nicely - Duncan Riley
Yo ... you are totally blocked for posting this ;) - Nick O'Neill
I've only ever blocked a couple of people in social media, and that's becuase the were offending one of my friends. I've found people to be pretty good really. Spammers are another story. - jjprojects
I don't talk about it beyond generalities. Otherwise, I'd have to post laundry lists of dozens of Twitter users I blocked. - Morton Fox
With Morton on this ... I do open up to a lot of 'noise' and then slowly and selectively block on Twitter and FF. It has opened whole new world of interaction, audience, discovery, fun, and engagement butIi don't feel a need to 'call-out' anyone .... yet :) - Charlie Anzman
I have blocked quite a few people, my own daughter even (long story!), but I don't tell anyone. Ok, maybe I just did. But I don't usually. - Adrienne Van Houten
Nope. But then again, I view blocking as a very personal vendetta along the lines of Inigo Montoya. I'd rather be smug than dramatic apparently. ;) - Cyndy
I think Shawn Farner's comment said it well.99% of the time I would consider it rude to announce a block. However if it is a scammer/spammer then you are doing the community a favor by making other's aware of the situation. Cyndy I love the Inigo Montoya reference. 2 points. - tsudohnimh
I don't like blocking, did just one guy and no didn't need to announce it 'cause almost anyone who used the feature blocked him and a few announced it, u know who I'm talking about - Dobromir Hadzhiev
I've only blocked 2 obvious idiots that were polluting FF conversations. I did announce it as it was my first such block... it was well supported and caused others to do the same. I was amazed at the resounding agreement on my choice. - Susan Beebe
Interestingly, I just blocked some suspecting spammers on Twitter. But, blocking then announcing to everyone that you're doing that because of a failed relationship is quite childish. - Franklin Naval
If I block I will be silent as there is no need to make an announcement about it! - Joe Dawson
I've got the standard "two clowns" blocked, but I wouldn't really feel right talking about specifics - after you block someone, they can't see what you're saying, either (at least short of searching for your comments), so it seems a little weird to block someone then talk about it. - David Worrell
Flirting? friendship? business? What? I know people use it for all of these, for sure. - jjprojects
Isn't communication what the human race has been all about from day one? Social networking/media is just the latest development...not much different from picking out lice! - Sean Carmody
Getting pointers to new "information" (in its broadest sense) with socially applied filtering. It may make sense for some to only friend people they know- it raises the trustworthiness of their information pointers. - suelibrarian
Yes, we a very social animals for sure. So we use it everything we possibly can? this is probably the answer here. - jjprojects
That's not lame at all. What IS lame is social networking software that doesn't have any friends at all. I'll blog about this. Actually, I spoke about this back in April, long before I was a default in FriendFeed: http://thenextweb.org/2008/04/... - Robert Scoble
I was coming from the angle that social media software is just that. Software. It's the people who use it that should take initiative to build their own friends right? Something about folks at FF deciding to plug in default friends sounds a bit weird to me. Then again, i'm a fashionably late adopter. heh. Look forward to the post Robert. - Christine Lu
I gave a talk in Amsterdam that showed how bad these things are when you don't have any friends. I'm not saying that FriendFeed solved it the right way, but when I joined FriendFeed it was nice to have a bunch of people there being recommended to me to subscribe to. - Robert Scoble
At least we all didn't get Tom as our default first friend when we signed up. - Trish Robinson
Robert, i get what you mean. But perhaps the next step to this should be a default set of friends based on various interests or sectors and not limited to social media or tech? It took me time to gather up a list of folks of interest to me (China and food. heh) so yea, that'd be cool if there were default lists by interests. That would be cool in helping these apps scale I think. Ok, where's Guy. Looks like Alltop needs to come up with a FriendFeederati by sector. heh. - Christine Lu
Yeah I'm not so sure about this default friend thing, although Robert, you clearly have a bias considering you are one of the defaults ;) - Nick O'Neill
Nick: you're right, but I gave the talk way before I was one of the defaults, so I've been pretty consistent on this. Here's the talk I gave back in April, long before I was a default in FriendFeed: http://thenextweb.org/2008/04/... - Robert Scoble
I agree with having the FriendFeederati by sector idea too. I don't think it's a bad thing to give suggestions. As I just shared, I find it odd when people use social networking software and say they only add people they already know. Doesn't social networking partly neccessitate meeting new people? - jjprojects
I actually don't believe in "default" people, though I really share that idea of "interests". I humbly still think that the more you share interests with someone the more he/she should be recommended to you :) - directeur via NoiseRiver
Yeah I don't think suggestions are bad, just having the same ones doesn't make sense. Also with having all the defaults as techies, doesn't that kind of drive the conversation on FriendFeed around a specific topic (technology)? - Nick O'Neill
Not lame at all. By having a few uber-users I can subscribe to as I sign-up, I immediately see the benefit of FF. I don't have to go rummaging around trying to find Scoble, or Riley or Arrington or Gray or anyone else to see what the service might be like if I work really hard at following people. a) I actually want to follow them (and so do you, admit it), b) I'll add others anyway. Why is it lame to make it easier to create social connections and leverage shared information? - AJ Kohn
Long story short, FF took the writers approach. Show, don't tell. How many times have you heard someone say, 'Oh, you'll get Twitter when you follow enough people.' Seems to me FF took that to heart and figured out how to make that happen a whole lot faster. And by using 'high node' users, the friend of friend product brings diversity to your feed quickly, even more so if you wind up subscribing to some of those friends. - AJ Kohn
AJ Kohn, no i get it. Maybe my initial reaction of lameness was directed more towards the uber-users being of one sector. Would be nice to have social media adopted faster by non-tech folks. No offense against the sector. But again, it took me 3 months on Twitter to help aggregate all the folks interested in China together. Would be nice if there was a jumping off point for other sectors. I'm pretty sure Guy is working on it now as we speak judging from his reply to my earlier tweet. Yay. :) - Christine Lu
Christine Lu: I get the sector thing. It is highly tech focused. But ... again, the friend of friend feature does a lot to defray that don't you think? And if you subscribe to a few of those friends you can quickly build diversity. I think of it more as 'high node' people, those with many connections - influencers. They can deliver diversity at a higher rate, thus they are the defaults. It's not perfect which is why I'm trying to get some authors/writers to join - an under-represented crowd IMO. - AJ Kohn
Christine: All of us in China are eagerly anticipating your efforts to get us all corralled and organized and properly introduced on FF the way you did on twitter! ;-) - sage brennan
Seriously, though, this FriendFeed environment feels like an ocean full of screaming plankton, without apparent order or guidance. Somebody please figure this out for me. The "uber users" approach was helpful at the start, months ago, but it's easy to get 'stuck' at that beginning stage. - sage brennan
Screaming plankton! Kaiser Kuo's next rock group. Heh. Sage...bugged Guy about needing a FFerati list on Alltop. working on the China FF aggregation. :) - Christine Lu
How about Gallons to litres, miles to kilometres. Sheesh America, catch up with the rest of the world :) And yeah, there's often a big jump from Sydney to the Blue Mountains, only 1.5 hrs away, about 150 kms. - jjprojects
A hell of a lot of old, stubborn people across America have to die before we can switch to the measurement systems that the rest of the world enjoys. *Sigh* - Nathaniel Payne
most Americans know the metric system, they just refuse to use it - just like the French refusing to use English words :) - Nik Cubrilovic
I convert in the opposite direction, but I just remember that 68 & 86 F = 20 & 30 C. That handles most of my conversion issues. - Ontario Emperor via fftogo
I know metrics in everything BUT weather - so I totally understand your issues with going back the other direction! - Lucretia Pruitt
The United States, Liberia, and Burma, the three Luddites in a world of metric measurement. If you look closely most US newspapers offer a conversion bar, and the big weather sites allow the temp to be shown correctly as well. - Duncan Riley
Gah. Loic, that formula is only an approximation. At either end of the scale, it gets WAY off. For instance, that would say that boiling point of water is 232 instead of 212 F. - Cyndy
Cyndy, if you're talking about my formula (Loic can't be blamed for that), it has correct 18 degree F (not 20 degree F) spacing. I count on the inversion of the 6 and the 8 to keep me straight. - Ontario Emperor
“Even though I told no one about having usernames on a new service, I'm getting a ton of followers. So, in the immortal words of MySpacers, THANKS FOR THE ADD”
I guess it's fair enough that you can't edit the original post, people could change the meaning of people's comments as well as the original post. The context could totally change, that's not fair. - jjprojects
I've had to delete my shares and re-do them due to my lame typos! hehehe! - Susan Beebe
Meh, I'm leaving it. People can see how stupid I am - jjprojects
People already know that about me so I gotta stem the tide ;-) heheehe! - Susan Beebe
Yeah, me too. I'm hopeless on twitter. Sometimes I don't get anything right, especially if I'm tired. - jjprojects
“How many people do you follow on Friendfeed? Would you find it more difficult to follow a lot of people here, like many do on twitter, or is in manageable?”
I follow nearly 1800 on twitter, and have a similar number of followers. I'm not sure if I feel that it's fine to have a lot here too. I'm following 400 here now, and that's okay so far. - jjprojects
I follow 860 on twitter; 364 on FriendFeed (nearly 500 follow me in both places) - Susan Beebe
Do you find Friendfeed to be a bit of a 'firehose' compared to twitter, with that number? I'm finding it okay at the moment. - jjprojects
Oof, I'm small stuff compared to you lot. I hover around 100 on FriendFeed and 80 on Twitter. I reached some invisible threshold and suddenly slowed down tremendously on whom I subscribe or follow. In fact, Twitter feeds off of FriendFeed for me. If I sub to you here, I'll most likely sub to you on Twitter (mainly because I have tweets hidden here unless liked or commented upon). - Akiva Moskovitz
YES... it's tough. Had to turn off the FoF (friend of friend) feature cuz the noise was insane. also, use the "best of" feature here in FF. Also now using key words in TweetDeck to track stuff I am interested in - Susan Beebe
I'm paying over $7.25/gallon in Israel - Yaakov Ellis
Yep, unleaded petrol jumps around a bit but it's been around $AU1.50 to $AU1.65 a litre in Australia lately. - jjprojects
23 gallons = about 87 liter /// $ 108 / 87l = 1,24 $ / l /// $ 1,24 = € 0,8 /// € 0,8 / l ==> wow, cheap :-) - Steven Verbruggen
Steven compared the US prices to Europe and finds it cheap at 0.8 euros! hehe - Loic Le Meur
in Italy €1.50 - €1.55/l. 87 litres= €130 = circa $197 - Giovanni Crescente
In the Great White North - $1.30-$1.50 CDN per liter = $5.20-$6.00 CDN per Gallon. - Stephen Pierzchala
For sure, it's cheap. Here in Paris, the diesel liter is double (1.56 € today). Equivalent to 5.9 € / gallon (3.78 l) = 9.26 USD / gallon. - Philippe Bovigny
I've always wondered - why hasn't the US switched over to the metric system? - Yuvi
The same reason why the US spells words differently the rest of the English-speaking world. Although it does have interesting effects on the construction of Mars probes - Stephen Pierzchala
Loic, Oregon Grille in here in Baltimore might have the best Steak au Poivre anywhere. - Aaron Brazell
filled up yesterday for the equivalent of $9.57 a gallon in Ireland - Patphelan
$10 a gallon in Ireland?!!! wew now THAT is not cheap - Loic Le Meur
Our Mercedes requires premium and so we see those numbers too, although not frequently, since we keep driving down. The ML350 has a 25 gallon tank. x 4.65 / gallon by our house. - Eric Rice
It's $6/gallon in Canada for regular, close to $7 for premium - urgh - Seann G
Another great pic John! Keep them coming, I love them! :) - Penny
Thx! It was a great sunset. Actually I was disappointed the camera didn't show just how great it was. At least I had a camera with me though - yay N95! - jjprojects
pretty impressive, I can't relate to those numbers; i have 49 on Friendfeed and 175 on Twitter - Lou Paglia
in any case thanks for following me! directeur on Twitter I follow 8439 people and about 500 on Friendfeed I think. Friendfeed shows you a lot of content from people you don't follow (if they comment or friends of people you follow) so it's not the same on FF. You can read lots of people you do not have to follow on FF which I like, some people find it's noise. - Loic Le Meur
Loic, I actually share your opinion on the subject :) I was just (how do we say "taquiner" in english btw?) :) - directeur via NoiseRiver
1880 follow me on twitter and so far 362 on Friendfeed, (but I've only just started really using it properly). Because of this, they are quite different experiences for me at the moment. I'm really liking that you can see different types of content in ff, and that you can see all the comments of a conversation together. I do wish there were more women commenting though, as I mentioned in a Share yesterday. - jjprojects
For me, 1,128 on twitter and 121 on friendfeed - Christian Burns
Having a lot of followers here quickly might have something to do with the fact that followers can quite easily be moved over from twitter to here, do you think? I've found that. Twhirl is another incentive to use ff as well as twitter, Loic :) - jjprojects
I think the real question is whether we are creating an echo chamber. I think not. I find this all very meaningful. - Kris Kelley
2,629 follow here, and 1,288 on Twitter. I don't think Loic follows me on either. :-) - Louis Gray
No offense, but isn't all this numbers-posting stuff (that seems to be the latest A-lister trend) kinda B.S.? How much do you actually read? How much do you contribute? And more importantly, how much is it changing your life for the better? How much are you changing others' lives? Otherwise, heck, it's Friendster all over again. "I have 50 friends!" "Well, I have 500!!!" :P - Adam Lasnik
Adam: you can click over to the right to see how many people and conversations I interact with. This is a LOT different than Friendster. - Robert Scoble
good point Adam, it is not how many that matters, it is who follows you. In this case I was just trying to check the proportions. - Loic Le Meur
Loic: who follows you really doesn't matter. Who YOU follow defines you. Inputs vs. outputs. If you just care who is consuming your outputs you'll soon be a pretty shallow fellow. Me? I want to follow smart people and have conversations with them. Better inputs makes me smarter. - Robert Scoble
except robert thinks anyone not voting for obama isn't smart. - Wolfsbayne
Loic, yep, now I see you were focusing on the ratio. Sorry for being a bit over-snarky perhaps; I've just seen so many threads lately on "Look how many followers I have on [x] service!" And Robert, I see your point, but -- as I've challenged you in the past -- I still haven't been convinced of the "worth" issue. You are splendiforously active online. You follow a zillion people. Zillions follow you. Has it made lives appreciably better, or is it just so much gee whiz, look at the latest? - Adam Lasnik
Adam: does reading the New York Times or watching CNN made lives appreciably better? How could I even try to make such an audacious claim? That said, this morning I had breakfast with a bunch of Twitterers/FriendFeeders and we had a great time. That made MY life better. - Robert Scoble
Personally, I think watching CNN makes folks' lives worse, and I'm less and less keen on the NYT, so not sure those are great examples :P. But yeah, I think pretty much every action one undertakes should make lives better. Simple things: flossing teeth. Reading Digg for hours on end? Probably not so much. Subjective? Absolutely. But speaking as someone who has wasted (yes, wasted) way too much time online at times, I am happy to (somewhat hypocritically) call others out on what I perceive as... - Adam Lasnik
a strongly overinflated sense of the importance of online activity. With that said, using online interactions to make one's real life richer... that's something I agree is awesome :). - Adam Lasnik
Adam: on my best of days yes, I try to make your lives better through my media. But only history can judge whether I actually rose to that level. - Robert Scoble
Fair enough, Robert. And while I fundamentally disagree with a lot of your philosophies and often don't share your (sincere) excitement for many online things, I do think your heart's in the right place :) - Adam Lasnik
I'm not sure if I absolutely understand the direct FF:Twitter correlation. For discussion, tweets are fleeting, FF is permanent. - David Adewumi
My Twitter is more quantative,FriendFeed more qualitative:) - Igor Poltavskiy
David: everything on the Internet is permanent thanks to Google. I get what you are trying to say, though. I call this the "half life of a conversation." On Twitter it's a few minutes. On FriendFeed? More than an hour. - Robert Scoble
imho, tweets about # of followers is major turn-off. i can't count that high. not in English. Not in French ;-) - Andy Sternberg
I wonder what the guys@twitter got to say about all this 'end of twitter' talk going on out there.....anything i missin here ? - Jassim
Sincere question: Howdo followers create value for you (from $ to brand, etc.)? Any "before" and "after" analysis? It is great for us all to be talking a lot - I am just starting to pull back and see what the real value is and would love your thoughts! - Tony via twhirl
one thing to consider when comparing FF and Twitter follower numbers is that you don't have to follow someone to see their stuff in FF. For example, I see this thread not because I follow Loic, but I follow Louis Gray and he follows Loic. Unlike Twitter, this makes it much easier for new comers to be part of the conversation in FF. - berkay
@RobertScoble Twitter's traffic more FriendFeed's one though - Igor Poltavskiy
Robert, I know you want to follow tons of people, I followed your advise on Twitter following 8500 people and to be honest that turned my feed in something unreadable, but I agree on the concept. I would like to listen to all of the people who follow me, but not always. Stephanie, absolutely right. - Loic Le Meur
Keeping you away from my baby, just sayin. - jjprojects
jjprojects, I was just going to say the same thing! Keeping my kids away too :P - Penny
She always says babies are delicious and then has dreams about eating them, hmmmm - jjprojects
jj, i don't have dreams about eating babies :P - Luis
your dreams are inversely related to your adopted persona(s) on twitter, and as your twitter messages get more out there, your dreams will become equally increasingly strange. my psychic friend said "The crab may also symbolize your inability to effectively move forward and address your own difficulties. (Remember the crab often moves sideways or backwards.) Some folklore interpretations say that the crab is an omen of poor health. However, there is a more positive interpretation for the crab in your dream. In some areas of metaphysics, the crab is a representative of the sea and the sky. It represents physical nourishment which can be obtained from the sea and also intellectual nourishment." - ben barren
We have kids in front of our house setting of serious fireworks. It's very annoying. I hope the cops come and give them a ticket - Michael Narciso
"The only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn, like fabulous yellow roman candles nearly exploding in Veronica's face, and in the middle you see the blue centerlight pop and everybody goes "Awww!"" - Vincent X
wow, kevin rose having a wild bbq posting pictures of Pabst Blue Ribbon and you staying at home shaking your fist at little kids...you are a homebody! :) - Pokai
I burned a neighbour's tree down with fireworks when I was a kid, by accident. Could have caught their house on fire too. Damn dangerous *old man shakes fist* - jjprojects
I don't find it so bad now with the iphone. In the UK, orange used to have a service where a human operator would take a message and txt it to you. That was great. - Robin Barooah via MojiPage Bot
It all just rolls to my email inbox (and my mobile), so still has value. - Norman Guadagno
