Bin gespannt, wie viele dieser Artikel noch kommen müssen, bis die Botschaft durchdringt ;-) - Johannes Kleske
Interessanter Artikel. Als ich angestellt war, konnte ich (bis die Amis uns gekauft hatten ;)) auch "remote connected" arbeiten, und das war immerhin schon 2001. Aber gerade bei Euch Agenturmenschen funktioniert so etwas nicht, dieser ständige Ad-hoc-Meeting-jetzt-und-schnell-und-dann-mal-eben-machen-Stil, der zumindest in den zwei Agenturen, für die ich "frei" gearbeitet habe, gepflegt wurde, setzt zwingend physische Anwesenheit in einem Gebäude voraus. - Ralf G.
@Aaron: it reminds me of a chat room. a/s/l anyone? - Mona N
"Ridiculously featureless." Well put. Not to mention it's really really slow. It's a good thing they have XMPP connectivity out of the box, since that's the only way it's remotely usable. - Albert Willis
its more like we flock to these other services to lay claim to our handles, or else you are like scoble and they get scooped up. - Andrea Baker
If identi.ca had a fail whale, we'd have already sighted it spout. Of course, it's really early ... - Chris Baskind
Gee. It was working fine a minute ago. ;-) - Leo Laporte
Had a look at identi.ca, but think friendfeed will be my new drug of choice - James Fridley
I kind of hate it already, and I just joined tonight. I'm sticking with Twitter/FF - Veronica
Anybody remember what Twitter looked like on it's first day live? - Ken Sheppardson
MASS MIGRATION!! I see over 1,000 unique users already in 1 day! dang this app is going viral fast!... already got an outage error... we need a "fail MOOSE" - Susan Beebe
I can't call them "tweets", and calling them "identi" is just weird - xero
Seriously, they're already moving servers apparently according to the head guy there once it finally calmed down. - Zach Flauaus
@Mona people complain but only for so long... remember - everybody left DOS years ago... - Harry Myhre
Zach: who's the "head guy" @ identi.ca ?? - Susan Beebe
The problem with this is you are moving from a known (albeit currenty buggy) platform to a complete unknown - went to identi.ca and it was as slow as frozen treacle. Not packing my bags any time soon. - Stuart Forsyth via twhirl
i'm willing to test out any of these microblogging platforms to find one that consistently works - Chris
startups that experience exponential growth get slammed with new users... thus the performance hits on their servers = crawl - Susan Beebe
Same problem with Pownce (also once touted to be the Twitter killer), is perhaps a better platform but EVERYONE is on twitter; it'll have to be a mass exodus. - Stuart Forsyth via twhirl
Not sure if he's the "head guy" but Evan Prodromou (evan here and on identi.ca) is certainly up the chain. I've seen him described as the author in other threads. - Ken Sheppardson
I'll stick with Twitter and Friend Feed for now. I've been to a few different places and it just doesn't feel right. Yeah, Twitter is down a lot, but I still like it. I also am liking FF too, because people can leave comments. - Molly
Tris, if this is Canadian tech, Canadian tech sucks :-) - Aaron Brazell
FriendFeed is MY killer app.. the rest are time sucks - Susan Beebe
FriendFeed is the definitive microblogging app for me. Twitter is just another FF plugin. - Antony Jepson
I signed in with openid (liked that), uploaded an avatar and made a post. But I don't know if I want to put any effort into subscribing to anyone. I mean the people I want to follow (subscribe to) are mostly hear or on FF. Maybe I am just being lazy. - Andrea Baker
The twitter clones all seem to have at least one defining thing going for them, but identi.ca is very plain. It seems like twitter with *less* features. - Patrick via twhirl
Apart from communities on twitter-clones tending to be much smaller than on twitter itself, if you make a straight up clone, you will probably end up with the same technical problems Twitter has. You'd have to change something quite radical on the architecture side of things. - Horst Gutmann
Ugh, I hope people don't start using it. Now that I've finally left Twitter, I'm pretty content with FriendFeed. - Dillon K. Hoops
@Igor You have that backwards. ;) Personally I'm liking FriendFeed. It's like an open architecture FaceBook. The only things I'd change is a better mobile interface, the ability to SMS/IM in shares, and the ability to comment on/like comments. That's it. The feature I love the most is the Imaginary Friend feature. - Ivan via fftogo
Competition is always good. However, I don't think we should be comparing identi.ca to wordpress just yet. - Mack D. Male
Wither its Open source or propetry, both business strategies need to have a Revenue strategy to be sucessefull.. You get pinched for either the s./w cost or the support charges.. same difference ! - Peter Dawson
hmmm but I'm not paying for Twitter (and I never would). Although I did pay for Typepad (it was a proven commodity, it was reliable and it had features I needed but couldn't configure on my own). I'm with Mack. - melmcbride
@Shane Six Apart is certainly still around and continuing to give great tools to bloggers every day. - David Recordon
@Shane I have been the head of Six Apart Europe and still a shareholder so I am conflicted but yes, Six Apart is thriving and growing very nicely, there is room for both on the market. - Loic Le Meur
It certainly would be an interesting development if a strong open source competitor/alternative emerged in the space. - Doug
SixApart left the self-hosted space long time ago, they are after the people that want to blog without a fuss, mainstream people. Wordpress is for folks who care about the tool they use. I used MT and Typepad, been using Wordpress for some years now, and it was the best move i made. - Mário Pires
best wishes for you, your book is great - you'll have a blast spending morte time with your kids - Maggie Longshore via twhirl
Congratulations on your decision and best of luck. Enjoy your improved work/life balance! - Adam Sherk
Good luck in your career! You were very informative at the Web 2.0 Expo SF 2008. I enjoyed your presentation at the Social Media Strategy workshop - Glenn Batuyong via twhirl
Best of luck! I liked that post about reinventing your job every 18 months. - Jeff Woelker
Thanks everyone for all of the good wishes. I'll be blogging again soon and will let everyone know when and where I re-surface. - Charlene Li
Charlene, best of luck to you and your family. We will all miss your insights and analyses. - warren sukernek via twhirl
Good luck, and thanks for being so public about wanting to strike a balance between work & family. Working parents of both genders will be cheering you on! - Dylan Tweney
Best of luck, Charlene. You're leaving big shoes to fill. I look forward to reading you again soon. - Christian Anderson
Congratulations on your decision, and best of luck! - Steve Bauer
good luck with your future endeavors! looking forward to more of your social technologies insights online. - ~C4Chaos
Charlene, sounds like an enlightened and well considered choice. Congrats. Let us know if we can do anything to support your next-next steps. Be Great. Cheers! silva - mark silva
You Twitter from Twhirl and reply from FriendFeed . Duh! - Candace Holly
Twhirl runs on my left side monitor, friendfeed on my main screen. I hold a special place for Twitter, in my heart (no, really...but it's a long story) but that doesn't fix the usability issues. - Spinn via twhirl
@Lars Trieloff: Nein, hierbei ging es mir tatsächlich um vorrangig deutschsprachigen Content. Ich habe allerdings auch versucht, statt Language=German einmal Region=Germany bei der Google Advanced Search zu verwenden, bekam dabei allerdings keine Ergebnisse. Vermutlich schließt es sich gegenseitig aus, wenn man gleichzeitig bei "Search within a site or domain:" friendfeed.com eingibt. Wie man Region=Germany, Austria, Switzerland eingeben könnte, weiß ich schon gar nicht; da müssen Leute ran, die sich besser mit diesen Suchalgorithmen auskennen. - Alexander Ebel
Was für eine Überraschung, ich bin auf Platz 22. - Ansgar Wollnik
Ich habe freilich keine Ahnung, nach welchen Kriterien das Google Ranking funktioniert. Der "German" Room hier bei Friendfeed verzeichnet derzeit 140 Mitglieder. Da ist mir eigentlich kaum erklärlich, wie Google unter den ersten 100 Suchergebnissen gegen Ende User aufführen kann, die zum Teil fast keine Einträge im Feed haben. - Alexander Ebel
Kriterien wären schon interessant, ich habe keine Idee, wie ich da reingekommen bin. :) - Chronistin
Ich denke die Region wird anhand der Server-IP Adresse bestimmt, und die stehen bei FriendFeed sicher in Kalifornien. - Lars Trieloff
Ich bin in meinen Inhalten zweifellos Denglisch, freue mich aber, auf der Liste zu stehen. - Thomas Frütel
Ich frage mich gerade, ab welcher Anzahl deutschsprachiger Einträge im Feed die Googlesuche mit der Angabe language=german den entsprechenden Friendfeed als Ergebnis ausspuckt. Komplett englischsprachige bleiben wohl außen vor, aber ich z.B. bookmarke viel Englisches auf del.icio.us und share viel Englisches im GReader. Meine Blogeinträge, Tweets und FF-Kommentare sind dagegen größtenteils auf Deutsch. - Alexander Ebel
Es könnte natürlich sein, dass gerade das Verhältnis zwischen der Anzahl deutschsprachiger und der Anzahl englischsprachiger Inhalte ein Kriterium ist, nach dem Google bei dieser spezifisch eingeschränkten Suche die Ergebnisse sortiert: Je deutscher, desto höher (also im Google-Friendfeed-Ranking, nicht irgendwie sozialdarwinistisch-politisch, gelle ;-) - Alexander Ebel
Ich bin ziemlich überrascht, auf der Liste so weit oben zu stehen! Aber warum auch nicht? Ich verlinke die "Hitparade" mal in einem Artikel auf meinem neuen Blog... - Matthias Schwenk
öhm - die beschriebene google suche sucht doch nur welche deutschsprachigen user am häufigsten das Wort "Friendfeed" auf Friendfeed benutzt haben und mehr nicht - oder unterliege ich da nem irrtum? ;) - Dieter Schwarz
@DieterSchwarz Genau dasselbe hätte ich auch gesagt. Aber dazu kommt ja noch der "geheime Google Juice", also noch ein wenig mehr als "nur" Vorkommnisse des Worts friendfeed. - Benjamin Reitzammer via twhirl
mist - dabei hatte ich oben eben ganz geschickt das wort friendfeed zweimal benutzt um in dieser friendfeed diskussion auf friendfeed möglichst oft mit dem wort friendfeed zu erscheinen, um später dann in der friendfeed liste der top leute auf friendfeed ganz oben zu landen und mr. friendfeed zu werden! *lool* - Dieter Schwarz
Ich habe ebenfalls keine Ahnung, wie die Ergebnisse zustande kommen, freue mich jedoch sehr über meinen 12. :-) - Daniel Kersten
In der Tat: Ich hatte ja die Suche von Mark Krynsky übernommen und einfach nur auf language=german eingeschränkt. Warum da speziell nach dem Wort "friendfeed" gesucht wurde, weiß ich nicht. Lässt man's weg, ergibt sich eine völlig andere Reihenfolge, und es tauchen auch völlig andere Namen auf: http://www.google.com/search?h... - Ich selbst erscheine dann beispielsweise erst auf der 7. Ergebnisseite. Hatte mich auch schon gewundert... - Alexander Ebel
it takes a real smart brain to attain such a simple, yet true, conclusion. Hats off, sincerly! - directeur via NoiseRiver
We're crossing the swamp, hopping from platform to platform as they're built one hop ahead of us. - Ken Sheppardson
I said "look very different"...the Web will sound and be experienced as very different in the future, involving all the senses and lots of interactivity. - Cathryn Hrudicka
BTW, I'd add TechCrunch and TechMeme to that list as well. - Dave Winer
Something needs to be the destination. That destination may change. Today it's FF for me. Tomorrow it could be something else. - Steve Rubel
Are these Web 2.0 services instead pointing to the need for some future database, searchable, filterable, where we'll all go for info? - Mark Dykeman
Well put. I'm wondering if FriendFeed will one day crawl the sites we share and flip a twist on search. - Dan Kaplan
I think where our ideas live and co-mingle will get much richer. The shared space will wander in and out of different worlds much more easily. We've got Level 1 integration, made possible by first generation APIs. It's nice the way FF and Pownce handle Flickr for example. Nice the way FF understands YouTube. Just knowing that you can do more if you know more about the data is a big step. Twitter is unwilling to take that step. These other guys are willing to tiptoe up to and over the line. Lots more to do. - Dave Winer
Ok I like Rubel's comment here a lot!!! Something needs to be the destination. How do we stop continuing to be dissatified with one app.. and at the same time continue to attack innovation??? Thats a bitch but damn I cant keep up with which kickass social app I am suppossed to using. - Cody Heitschmidt
FF et al + us == awakening the internet. - Tad Donaghe
BTW, I doubt seriously whether Rex Hammock is even aware of this discussion. This is not a minor flaw. - Dave Winer
Flaw with Rex Hammock or FriendFeed? - Tad Donaghe
I don't think there will ever be "THE" desitnation site. As social sites evolve, users are constantly giving feedback on what they like and don't like and as a result, new site(s) will arise to address current limitations and offer new featurs and the cycle continues. - Bob Ngu via twhirl
@Cody, I'm just an everyday joeuser, but it's all good to me. I'm continually amazed at all of this. This from a guy who remembers B&W TV! - Larry Huffman
Im sticking with the decentralization argument. I want to host my own Twitter/friend-feed, just like I do with Wordpress, MoveType. I want my own MYSQL database to control my own data, my own security, just like everything. This is where its all evolving, I think. Currently, the transmission is backwards. And no one gets any linkcred for anything. - Andrew Baron
@Andrew, agreed. I want enterprise Twitter in lieu of pagers. On a team of 15 production engineers, that would be a big help towards endless reply-all emails. - Larry Huffman
@Andrew you're on to something here. Web 2.0 2001-2006 we all built equity exclusively on our personal sites (mostly blogs). However around 06 something switched - we built equity on YouTube, Facebook, then Twitter and now Friendfeed. It might go full circle as people get fed up doing so. - Steve Rubel
We're redefining (1) communities (2) friends-acquaintances (3) in-group out-group. In the wake of all the loneliness in the US nuclear-family-model, this is probably something people are crying out for... In the early days of public Internet 1991-1995, one very active group I followed was parents raising gifted kids. It was so hard for them to find a support-community. - Mitchell Tsai
That's probably quite true, but then again, half the fun is the journey, right? :) - vidsaw
Is there a destination? I hope not. Our tools change us even as we change them. - Craig Thomler
Decentralization fixes #1: who owns the data (we own our own data), #2 scale issues Twitter is having - balanced load - P2P, #3 it protects the web from not being neutral - e.g. makes it more difficult for Verizon to allow ltd. access - #4 distributes server costs so its cheaper, #5 give developers and services more control over all. - Andrew Baron
My feeling is it's not (just) the content, the real value is in your social graph - plus obviously the possibility to expand it; we're getting to a point where the specific service you're publishing on is becoming of secondary importance, while the real benefits lie in this cross-pollination of services. Facebook tried that by being - in a sense - a social OS with its apps, but in fact a 2.0 app can never be the OS. Internet can. - dario agosta
totally with Andrew. Someone talked about "information siloses" referring to 2.0 services - open APIs are taps to those siloses, but you don't own them, you can't control them, yet you host your lifestream on them. What if you *were* the owner of the silo? - dario agosta
@andrewbaron Personal portable version of what Tom Watson has done with http://tincorporated.com would be great, its an integrated lifestream with control over his assets, but still open to the web through those services APIs - Roger Penguino via fftogo
Andrew and Steve have good points. The initial Web 2.0 enabled self-publishing/ user generated content, but community was largely manual (via RSS readers, cross-linking, etc). The soc net revolution enabled mainstream community, but does not give us ownership. If we do go full circle -- and WordPress would be awesome for this btw -- we can self-publish, with community... and I think that's where Google Connect is going. - Allen Fuller
@davewiner - I'm aware of the discussion. I think it's amazing and even love the part where people are suggesting I'm clueless. - Rex Hammock
Wall-E was really a funny movie. I think it was funnier for adults than kids though. It had a lot for the older crowd to appreciate, including the underlying themes (which I won't spoil for anyone else). - Jason Huebel
A little preview. Just three things. 1. We need a Chief Technology and Science officer that would be a cabinet-level position. 2. We need to move away from a computer for every kid and toward an iPhone-level device for every kid. 3. We need a museum for science and technology. - Robert Scoble
@Robert: Agree with all three of your assessments, though the Smithsonian is doing a decent job on number 3. - Chris Reed
Wouldn't the CTO and CSO be separate positions. There's overlap, sure. But there's also overlap with nearly every other cabinet seat for both those roles. - John Frost
I utterly disagree with the "iPhone level device" for every kid. I'm a parent - *I* get to decide when I have to pay cell usage rates for my child and she has the abililty to text every other child in known creation - not you or the govt. She's had her own computer since before she could walk - but I configure her access and am in the room when she's using it. No way she's getting a mobile device w/o parental supervision until I say she's ready. - Lucretia Pruitt
#1 is a talking point directly out of Obama's campaign. #2 We already have that mostly but they aren't iPhones. #3 Smithsonian but how does that affect the nation??? - Aaron Brazell
Scoble makes one trip to Washington and now he's running for Mayor of Tech Town. - Tim Moore
What Aaron said. liaisons between washington and the web might be a better way to think- 'agenda' is too policy driven and I'm not sure policy is what is needed here. education maybe. - Erin Kotecki Vest
Aaron: actually this request came from a Republican congressman, who told me he had no one at the Whitehouse to talk to about technology issues. Yes, I know it's an Obama issue, too, but it's far broader than Obama. Regarding a museum, I'll explain why that's important in my blog later today. - Robert Scoble
We are also 15 years away from having every kid have a portable Internet-enabled device like an iPhone. - Robert Scoble
#1 I agree, but I think it should extend down further than that. They need to really have a good idea of what's going on, what's coming, and what's working (as much as they can). And I feel like s/he's going to have to spend a lot of time with people in the industry. They can't just sit in a glass box in Wash. - Sam Dodge
#2 I think I see where you're going with the "handheld, mobile, smart device", but like Lucretia, I think it'll be a tough fight to realize the ideals. I'd be more ready to spend the money on educating teachers and professors. Too often have I been in situations or heard of people being lightyears ahead knowledge-wise from the people who are supposed to be the resident experts. I've ended up using people like you as almost adjunct professors to help me learn about the tech industry and what's possible. - Sam Dodge
My gut reaction to #2 is: What age are "kids" and what will they do with these iPhones exactly? To say we're 15 years away also implies that this technology will be relevant then. Is that possible to predict at this point? Just honestly what I'm thinking about, but don't get me wrong. I'm ecstatic that Scoble has had this kind of impact and presence within our gov't. Way to go! Nice. - Chris Bonney
#1 included in the Chief Tech and Science Officer role should be appointment of a National Community Liaison whose staff could monitor/respond to conversation and sentiment in various social networks-- inside and outside of the US. Something on the order of terrorist surveillance, but for non-terrorists-- without, of course, getting creepy and listening to private conversations, etc. The goal would be to engage in the dialogue/get questions answered. - Susan Scrupski
"Technology agenda for the USA"? What are you, running for office after your trip to D.C.? ;-) - Josh Bancroft
What would the CTO do? What power would they have? Whose budget would they control? Would they be able to change the spending and acquisitions of CIO elsewhere in the Government? If you don't have good answers for those Robert, you're just creating more useless and expensive government overhead. Creating a new position does nothing, you have to put the necessary powers and BUDGET under that position. Unless you control the budget within the government, you don't control NUTHIN. - Chris Stevenson
Would this mean jurisdiction of "the internet tubes" moves away from the FCC? I'd also say let the free market take care of every kid getting a mobile computer, they already have cellphones, those will be computers in time. - aphexddb
Have you ever been to the Smithsonian's Museum of Science and Industry? - Mathew Spolin
Sorry, but this is just ridiculous. Who is going to pay for this? This is more entitlement and stupid spending plan which is what our problem is now. What ever happened to WORKING for something? This sounds like another Obama/democrat plan to buy votes. - Spencer Scott
It's got to be someone who's better at politics than technology. I hope it's not a Silicon Valley insider, cause that would just further cement the idea that they know what they're doing. Probably someone from academia like Lessig or John Palfrey from Harvard, someone who's immersed themselves in tech from a government policy standpoint. Palfrey would probably be the better bet. (Lessig is probably viewed as too radical, not acceptable to Hollywood.) - Dave Winer
I'm assuming of course that the next President is a Democrat. One thing I learned in trying to get a blogger cred at the convention, every choice they make has to make 24 different constituencies happy or at least okay with it. That's why they have an American Indian blogger, one from Guam, a gay-lesbian blogger, etc. Since the Dems are heavy on entertainment and tech, the CTO is going to have to be OK with both Hollywood and Sunnyvale. - Dave Winer
The US Government is more siloed than any massive corporation I can think of so if the goal is to impact the use of tech in governing its not going to get it done. If it is merely to advise the President on science and tech issues I am not sure what consolidating the roles that industry specific advisers already perform into one person will help. I would be very uncomfortable with the power to push tech policy being concentrated in one person's hands at a cabinet level - let the market do it. - Marco
I'll be happy to have a president who doesn't view science with suspicion. It might be too much to hope for a pres who allows rational thought to guide policy though... - Tad Donaghe via fftogo
I'm sorry Robert, but a statement like this makes me wonder what kind of world you see. An iPhone level device for every kid? Stop in a public school next year somewhere out of the range of the golden Valley and check out how many kids there are in special programs because they come from homes that aren't even able to provide BREAKFAST. - Ro (Lilyhill)
Roberta, I'm assuming that you support both the program that Scoble is talking about AND a way to help provide kids breakfast, right? - Tad Donaghe via fftogo
Roberta - that utopian 'iPhone level device for every kid' is actually what lost me. Technology is wonderful. Access to technology is wonderful. But first, the basic needs of all children take priority - food, clothing, a safe place to live, decent healthcare, education. The internet is incredible - but incredibly useless when you are starving, illiterate, and sick. - Lucretia Pruitt
Who is going to purchase said "iPhone like device" for these teens and who is paying the monthly fee? I am QUITE baffled by this very bold statement and still waiting for a response.... - Mona N
I should watch more FastTV and Scoble Qik. But I'm old-skool. - john conroy
People are freaking out about "iPhone-level device," but I like the idea. Don't get hung up on the form factor. How about a Kindle instead? How cheap will those be in 10-15 years? How much money could schools save if all books and publications were electronically delivered and updated? What about the possibilities for distance learning? Or for parents to track the locations of their children? Or even offsetting the cost using advertising? - Karim
Again, who is going to pay for the devices and service? The state? Country? Bill and Melinda Gates foundation? Come ON people, let's be realistic here LOL - Mona N
Bloody hell... here(s) what the root is for tech stuff learn to (a) write (b) count (c) speak.. make sure that happens first, then technology will take care of itself. SEcondly, make sure that the US grad students - stop outsourcing their assingments ie. their coding / writing /thesis etc to India !! SCrew this Iphone handheld device.. whats the point of a k/board , ifthey can't write a handwritten personal note of thanks.. , think of it.. !! - Peter Dawson
and while it ..make sure that the original pioneers of technology and geekiness are not treated like a terrorists . aka Kevin Minick case !! - Peter Dawson
Cool. You'll love it. I've never been as pleased with a webcam as I have with the QCP9k. Most of my gripes and limitations I've discovered are courtesy of me running it on an underpowered Vista laptop. On a normal machine, it functions flawlessly. - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
Das wäre etwas übertrieben, aber in Anbetracht der Stellung, die WP im öffentlichen Bewusstsein hat, wäre es schon gut, auf die "Vereinsmeier" und das Treiben der "alleinstehenden Männer" mal ein Äuglein zu werfen. ;) - Ralf G.
Meiner Meinung nach sind viele der Löschungen weltanschaulich motiviert. Jaron Lanier hat im Kern schon recht mit seiner Kritik an Wikipedia und Co. Vgl. dazu auch hier: http://www.wortgefecht.net/net... - Michael Gisiger
Not just a nice analogy from a visual/functionality comparison, but funny given the common core and founding staff of Twitter and Blogger :) - Elias Bizannes via twhirl
Or as RSS is to XML-do I wanna go there? - Mark Forman
Not sure I'd go that far Dave. Maybe better is WP to MT. - Jim Kukral via twhirl
I'll second Chris and say it's to Tumblr...they are not apples to apples - Marc Vermut via twhirl
plausible if perhaps friendfeed offered up their source in a manner similar to how WordPress does. - rob friedman
I made that point when I realized we could do much better with the FriendFeed API than we were able to with the Twitter API. They hold back Twitter, feeling that the simplicity is where the value is. But I think it's the users. And these days the leading edge users are over here, more than they are over there. It's in that sense that it's Blogger. Sure it's big and valuable, but the forward motion is happening elsewhere. Not that FF is even remotely close to done. There are so many issues. - Dave Winer
Rob - How would it help if Friendfeed would open its own source? It is a community syndication platform. - Vic Podcaster
Mark Forman's analogy might be seen better reversed (ie FF is more generalized than Twitter) - Yuvi
@rob - It's not open source that's the main reason for Wordpress being successful. FriendFeed being open source makes no sense, partly because one of it's main advantages is being centralized. Also, FriendFeed is technically much more complex then Wordpress. You can't just take the source code and run it on any server and it wouldn't be helpful to make it work that way. I love Wordpress, but I don't see value in having FriendFeed open sourced. - sebmos
@Chris Baskind - You don't understand what Dave's saying. It's not about the application, it's about the competition. Blogger is the more popular offer, but it's a bad product. People who know both platforms will choose Wordpress, but most people only know Blogger. Funny though that the crew created Blogger, which was a lucky success, created Odeo, which basically failed and now Twitter, which again has an awful backend (like Blogger) and was only innovative in its first iteration. - sebmos
What I don't understand is why they had to hire the developers of Blogger. I mean - didn't they fail with their first product already? Couldn't Twitter hire better folks? - sebmos
If FriendFeed allowed me to send direct, private messages to my followers, I would ditch Twitter, but it doesn't and I really like that functionality. - Andy Murdoch
@Andy Murdoch - You've got instant messaging, every other social network network, or simple e-mails as alternatives. Try it, you'll see that you won't miss it. - sebmos
WordPress and Blogger are mutually exclusive --FF and Twitter aren't! - Rubin
I use Friendfeed and Blogger - does that make me schizophrenic? :) - Craig Thomler
I agree with Rubin, twitter and friendfeed are not exclusive. Worpress and Blogger are... - twitscoop
Totally disagree. Twitter and Wordpress have better visuals in common. - Denise Young
ist ja eigentlich auch ein logischer schritt, irgendwie muss man sich ja gegenüber android positionieren. - Denny Kluge
Ich finds ne gute Sache. Nur schade, dass es so spät kommt. Bis die OS community greift, und die bisherigen richtig nervigen Mankos ausbügelt, dauert es noch ein paar Jahre. - Benjamin Reitzammer via twhirl
"diving into the capabilities web technology to see if this can help to resolve the real issues in this world." Alexander you are right, I believe it is worth all the effort we can give. - Franklin Pettit
Franklin, thanks, but the original credits should go to Umair Haque who wrote the post that started the thinking process of Fred Wilson who wrote a post that started my thinking process ;-) - Alexander van Elsas
I've been thinking this more and more lately. What is missing is the hackers and people who make stuff. In the early 1990s they were the most visible in the blogosphere. Then TechCrunch, TechMeme, and Valleywag showed up and they've been marginalized. We want "entertainment" now, and no one is asking for "smarter conversations." - Robert Scoble
@Robert: That could be a commentary on our culture as a whole and not just about the Internet. - AJ Kohn
@Robert, so true. There are people out there making things, but they don't get nearly as much attention as those that create publicity around no-real-life-value stuff. But the technology can be used to get smart people together if needed.There is enough potential, but we have to unleash it. Cradle to Cradle, for example, is really taking off in Holland. But only because the founders are creating a lot of noise around it. It is a framework that others should start using as well. But it needs more attention - Alexander van Elsas
Alexander: in the World Wide High School a fight in the quad gets more attention than the geek in the science lab. Me? I'd rather create content for the geeks who care about what's going on in the science lab, even if it gets me derided as "boring." - Robert Scoble
Robert: I guess that's the TV-ization of the internet. Look at the "unscripted" shows like Big Brother, etc. They might have been remotely interesting from an experiment point of view when they came up, but nowadays they are everywhere and boring. Interesting shows on TV (or the internet) aren't that easy to find today. - Holger Eilhard
agreed with robert and AJ - our modern culture is very entertainment, and short attention span. Big problems seem to only enter people's consciousness for a short time, then it's move onto the next thing. The problem is left unsolved, vs. a short period of "throw some money at it". To change this needs leadership in many areas. - Jason Kaneshiro
Some people want smarter conversations and the Internet makes this abundantly more possible than it was before the Internet. Let's look at this problem differently. How can we use social media to encourage people to be more...curious about stuff? Can it be done? - Robert Seidman
I don't think it matters that a lot of people are distracted. Revolutionary change can and often does come about in a petri dish. I am a producer. I make stuff. It is my experience everybody wants to or wishes they could make stuff. Interactive is the future,we all get that here. Take an hour today and try to knit, or pull some weeds or plant some basil, just for the experience. Doing is more fun when it balances basking. It is about practice. - Mary Anne Davis
hey alexander, thanks for the kind words. robert, i agree about hacking - in fact, you guys might want to read my "hacking the industrial economy" post from a couple of weeks ago...if we make things more hacktastic, i think the culture problem goes away (maybe :) - umair
Really smart people (and there aren't very many of them) always find one another and create their own knowledge communities -- it has been this way since at least the age of the ancient Greeks. What is interesting about Friendfeed is that it enables various knowledge communities and social groups to organize themselves rapidly. - Sean McBride
@Robert social news sites like Digg and Reddit show people are definitely curious and searching for new information. - Jason Kaneshiro
