They are right, infrastructures live forever, applications die (originaly was protocols live forever, operating systems die - John Gage) Think about it: FTP comes from 1972. The apis of the social Internet and the message storage are going to be an interesting asset in the future.
- Michele Costabile
If I'm reading the pop-up window correctly, domain registrar Godaddy recommends against purchasing .tv domain names because the island of Tuvalu, which the domain represents, is sinking. One more reason not to get bent out of shape over the fact that CNN bought "boingboing.tv" out from under us back in 2007. (via Eddie Codel)
- Leo Laporte
Leo, Canada barely exists and there is a .ca. I wouldn't worry about it.
- Gregg Scott
Admittedly, I'm not sure I understand what the deal is with the .tv domains. Sinking?
- Jon, the Chilled Beartato
I'll be blogging over at FastCompany increasingly too, here's some creative ideas for how to get creative again. Wonder how you get going creatively again after getting cut back?
- Robert Scoble
from Bookmarklet
These are some great ideas, Robert! I can't exactly reorganize my space, though, as I've too much stuff and nowhere to stash it. But I'll certainly be playing more uplifting classical when working on my projects, and less rock and metal. :D
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Great post, Robert. Lot's of ideas I had not thought of.
- Joe Lima
@robertscoble thanks for the creative ideas. I tried Goggle docs. The spreadsheet charts, and collaboration tools are so cool! I can use them right now.
- john
I didn't get laid off, but I did hit a serious slump in available work. So I started a new project partly to get my creative juices going, and partly as a form of self promotion: http://www.webappwednesday.com
- Michael R. Bernstein
this does not surprise me. i have spent a lot of time in industrial companies and email is the most advanced tech that has traction. can't even get secure sharepoint sites to get traction with execs!
- Jeff DiStanlo
I just can't believe it. Do these people live under a rock?
- Happy
It would have been a surprise if they had. Good job Robert is on hand to spread the word.
- WorldofHiglet
There was a seminar on social media and communications in Toronto last night and a few people had never heard of Twitter, either. Is it really surprising or are we just to immersed in it?
- Bonnie Dean
It took me years to get around to wanting to use Twitter. I read about it regularly at Coding Horror (ex: http://www.codinghorror.com/blog...) for at least a year but I just didn't see the point. I finally registered because I wanted to reply to a friend's tweet. I think for a lot of people it's more of a reticence to join social networks than plain technophobia.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
This is not surprising. Recall that John McCain does not even use email. And I am sure most, if not all, of these "top" executives are part of McCain's generation.
- Joe Lima
I haven't touched Qik/Seesmic/Kyte because I can't work out the difference. Not surprised most won't have heard of them or Twitter
- Luke
Robert, send them an invoice for innovation consulting! ;-)
- masa media - Martin
Make a list of top execs who do know about social media.
- stefan hyttfors
Not Surprising, I'd consider myself fairly Tech savvy and although i've been registered for ages i only just started Tweeting. Although given the publicity it's had in the last few weeks i'm slightly surprised.
- Jamie Vidamour
but i guess they know about Facebook ? well, i think twitter is more for more tech people
- Junal Rahman
Do you think their assistants know about those technologies? My understanding of CEO responsibility is that they have to think on a super broad and strategic level. Many of those technologies are about integrating tiny pieces of information into something bigger. Since that's not really their job, I would think those services would be off the CEO's radar until they have an impact at that high level. Right?
- David Wynn
from fftogo
Our CMO @BestBuyCMO relayed a similar experience at a CMO dinner he was one or two of 10+ who knew about the tools and he certainly was the top user of them.
- Ben Hedrington
It's not surprising, if you think about it, but it's still unfortunate. Top executives are hardly "the mainstream" and if they're not in tech or marketing, those types of communication are not foremost in their minds. I know one chief exec. of a Fortune 1000 company who still has his "important" emails (as determined by his assistant) printed out and put on his desk every day.
- Robert Clockedile
from twhirl
This does not surprise me in the least. Yes, awareness is growing but anyone who assumes that our social media world has "made it' to mainstream is unclear on the concept.
- Cathy Brooks
from twhirl
I've never expected top executives to have a clue about anything. They're just a figure head for the company. They pay others around them to do the grunt work.
- Chris Luckhardt
What a surprise!! Here in Brazil I've asked to my friends and coworkers and nobody knew about Twitter. Well, some of my friends don't even check e-mails account daily...
- Flavio Knopp
it goes to show that twitter, kyte, friendfeed, etc... haven't really hit the mainstream yet... user adoption will always be a problem no matter what platform or software is out there.
- Dejim Juang
What is the point of Twitter, Kyte etc when hundreds of thousands of people are losing their jobs and we are in global economic crisis? Don't these top execs have bigger issues at hand? Are we drinking too much social media coolade in these times?
- Andy Oliver
Dejim: I would not consider 30 executives not knowing about Twitter to equate to these services not being in the mainstream. It you ever worked with "top" executives, you'd be amazed by how much "mainstream" knowledge they really lack.
- Joe Lima
That's not suprising. I still have to ask "Do you know what Twitter is?"
- geekazine
from twhirl
I'm doing a Social Media 101 seminar in a few weeks for entrepreneurs who haven't touched linkedin.com, facebook, or twitter. Seminar is full. We'll likely do 2 or 3 more. I'm not surprised at your group's ignorance.
- Shelley Cadamy
I'm a publisher in medical technology market data and I continue to be stunned at how much behind the tech curve my audience of medtech companies is. Their rate of adoption of social media, like their adoption of new information technologies, lags at the same rate as physicians, who are traditionally slow to adopt any new technologies other than medical technologies.
- Patrick Driscoll
Top *executives*? No surprise there, unless they're *tech* executives. Gates or Dell not knowing would be worrying, but should a boss at Exxon or Rolls-Royce (the aero engine company) know or care any more than we'd know or care about distillate refining or FADEC aero engine controllers?
- James
I don't think we are drunk on social media when we say that in spite of the downturn and maybe because of it, we need to look at the enormous possibilities of social media at the very least as a brand loyalty mechanism(ie I am more apt to subscribe to products from companies/ people that I have a more intimate relationship with).
- Phillip
The other issue with non tech executives not tuned in is their reluctance to accept ideas that don't have a direct and obvious connection to ROI. I have to admit (and I'm not blowing my horn) that during the pre-internet heydey, I felt like Tom Hanks in "Big" raising my hand to say, "I don't get it". Then, I couldn't understand why website traffic mattered more than revenue.
- Patrick Driscoll
Recently, I spoke with a colleague of mine, a university professor of linguistics known as geek. I asked if someone is studying tweets' peculiar language and style from a scientific point of view. "Twitter?" he said, "Microblogging? never heard before". A geek, they say. Well...
- PaperDoll
There's a whole tendency in social media toward rapidly accepting what's at the front edge of development, while at the back end, product managers, sales/marketing and other grunts are just struggling to hit their numbers. They don't live and breathe the latest info tool -- they live and breathe their own product.
- Patrick Driscoll
OK, I'm hogging the airwaves, but one last point. When I look at new medical technologies emerging in the market, I have to bring in two very important perspectives: the opinion-leading early adopters (docs at universities or highly visible MD-consultants to industry) and the regular practicing physician working in the trenches of daily care. Social media evangelists would have me pay much more attention (I'm simplifying a bit) to the opinion-leaders.
- Patrick Driscoll
I can understand that they don't know about Qik or Kyte, even I don't and I spend a lot of time on Twitter and FriendFeed...
- Odi Kosmatos
I don't think that social media is so important that everyone MUST take part in it. If I had more of a life (was a busy doctor or exec.), twitter and friendfeed would be the last thing that I would do in my spare time -especially twitter.
- BEX
Ok, twitter might be something they need to know, but Kyte? Qik? Far too early for both of them to be at executive level of a non-tech company.
- Steven Cains
Carol Bartz doesn't use Flickr and she's Yahoo's CEO. Her daughter does use facebook to post photos though.
- Thomas Hawk
Our organzation is doing well w/Facebook with more plans for expansion after receiving demographics that show a high number of professional level participants and 30 and up crowd. I always considered FB for kids.
- R. Ferguson
I can belive Qik and Kyte. But Twitter. That is tough. Of course my CEO doesn't know what SEO is.
- John Flynn
Robert, that does seem strange. But then I see smaller co's. and non-profits jumping into Twitter, FB,etc. faster. My theory is because start-ups and NP's are open to the pool of university student volunteer workers, interns, and beginners out there who are more saavy in this area.
- Melanie Reed
Maybe it's the name...? Maybe they would prefer using something called The TwitCorp Group
- Catherine Ventura
robert - did you talk to them about zoho, zocdoc, gomobo, freshbooks, etc ?
- Allen Stern
They must not have any kids... or watch CNN <grin> Nice one, Catherine - love The TwitCorp Group
- Cheryl Allin
from twhirl
OMG there's a world OUTSIDE of Twitter and Soc Nets?! :P
- Mona Nomura
cmon mona you should know by now that in the valley there are only a few products that can be talked about outside the valley by those inside the valley - scoble just doing his job :) ha!
- Allen Stern
And to think, we just had an amazing tweetup in the Raleigh area last night of more than 200 tweeps. Triangle Tweetup was awesome.
- Angela
Non-tech CEOs is not surprising. However, depending on the kind of executive not knowing at least 1 like Twitteer may be troubling. For example if they are media companies or telecom companies then that is a more troubling thought than say the executive for a manufacturing company. Ultimately the lack of knowledge is a reflection of the type of talent they recruit and how that impacts their corporate culture now and in the future.
- Altan Khendup
Did those same guys also show ignorance about Facebook- then we will know that we live on different planets - google,facebook,twitter are all helping to re-shape the way we communicate with each other- rgds- hiro bachani- http://www.merlin-me.com -Merlin Magical Gadgets
- hiro
Amazing how a generational gap can preclude users from a given technology. I bet none of their friends are on Twitter either
- Jameel
Unsurprising to me. I think the only interesting item might be how a company without a revenue model continues to raise money! In *this* economy, that is a story.
- AJ Kohn
The elementary school I work at has started to hear about Twitter. It is going mainstream very quickly.
- MarkCarras
My fiancée has heard of Twitter and she does her damnedest to avoid all this high-fallutin' technology.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Not a good mood if you want to build up goodwill and awareness of your brand. I mean, unless you're McDonald's or something.
- Mike Nayyar
very small % of top exective in japan knows twitter either.
- Yasuyuki Goto
Do they need to know? Is twitter going to get them out of their problems? Maybe their marketing managers do know?
- santiromero
Why would they know or care about Twitter, Qik or Kyte? What's the business case?
- Francine Hardaway
did they know about facebook - for global mainstream business leaders that at least should be known?
- mike "glemak" dunn
Using our difficult economic circumstances to dismiss the tools of Web 2.0, be it Twitter, Facebook, or something else is to embrace the status quo. And if you hadn't noticed, the status quo isn't working. Web 2.0 offers a unique opportunity to reach out to customers, be they current or would-be customers, and engage them in a way previously not possible. As for me, I work for a...
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- Lee Allgood
did they know about computers? how about the internet? ebay? facebook? trying to quantify the time lag between reality and executives.
- Dino
not surprising....met an IT guy at Panera on Monday who never heard of twitter or microblogging...now that's scary
- Brian Appleby
does that say something? twitter and all these things are not the most essential parts of businesses. these things are fun but there's lots of people i know who have no idea about twitter. people who invest so much time and effort in these things have to realise this.
- Terry O'Fee
when things get really really tough these "social media experts" in the businesses will be the first to get the axe, sadly.
- Terry O'Fee
what is more significant/startling... that some do not know about twitter et al, or that some know and do not understand the value either personal or business wise? and believe me i know plenty people who know about twitter et al and just do not get the value. nor the point. which tells me social media is in its infancy still - we all know that of course. then again it took me 2-3 years to figure out email way back when ;)
- Pascal Bouvier
the value of twitter? i know lots of successful businesses who would never even look at this kind of stuff. it's not as important as a lot of you people think.
- Terry O'Fee
You people? Who you calling 'YOU people'.
- Chris Saad
Thats the problem. You NEED to look at it before you understand its value, both for personal use and as a corporate tool.
- jcunwired
you people = the people who think the world would end if twitter shut down tomorrow...
- Terry O'Fee
This post is a complete and utter déjà vu for me. Robert, did this happen another time upon which you posted a very similar statement. For a second there, I thought FriendFeed glitched and reissued an old entry. Maybe I'm just tired.
- Micah Wittman
seems that twitter will have 30 more users.
- pala
Um. I work under people who thinks blogging is new and uncharted territory. I'm in marketing.
- myron
nonsurprising.. some of my teammates don't know about twitter. none of them know about qik. and i never heard of kyte!
- Ihar Mahaniok
My 2 qs to you (1) who wants 1 million start ups, and (2) do you really think capitalism has failed 'cause thats what yer sayin.
- shelisrael1
What do startups have to do with VCs? If an idea isn't good enough to get started without VCs, then it isn't good enough to get started with them. Look at all the startups that popped up after the tech bust...how many of them had VC backing? The VC system hasn't failed anymore than the housing mortgage system has failed.
- Alex Scoble
VC is not the only financing model out there, and for most internet startups, you don't need much $$ to launch. You should be able to fund your idea yourself to a degree, or partner with a developer, esp since most VC firms don't invest under $1 mil. Some do but alot don't.
- Patricia
Related question to WEF attendees - how do they see innovation happening without startups?
- Bankwatch
Perhaps I am out of the loop on this one, but don't most VC's only want to invest in companies that are past the "two guys in a garage stage"? I realize some VC's do look to get in on the ground floor, but isn't that more the exception than the rule?
- Joe Lima
In Austin all I hear is "there's no early-stage capital". And Austin isn't alone. The system IS broken, if VC's won't "venture"
- Carter Rabasa
VCs operate like any other investor. The good ones have a variety of portfolios from "seed" (high risk early investments) to "strategic" (lower risk later stage). The challenge is finding the right mix. Part of what is broken is that every "startup" with a prototype and 2 customers thinks they want/need "funding". What they really need is customers who pay them.
- Brian Roy
asking one old boy network how to deal with the "failure" of another old boy network? isn't that like asking the people who crashed and burned the world economy for tips on running the world economy? oh, wait...
- Karim
A loaded question like "Why did you beat your wife" re: "with a failed VC system". There are 2 types of VCs- 1) Those who #1 want their money back: stay away from them. 2) Those that want to help you change the world or do something X10 better while making money at it. I like those, and they can call me anytime. How to create 1 million new start-ups is the right question, period.
- William Mougayar
No shock...if they would have just given the money to the People, the housing marked would be paid off, and the credit market would be paid...and we would all be less stressed
- beachpig
from twhirl
We are still only seeing the effects of the Merrill Lynch acquisition... the Countrywide purchase will be more expensive IMHO
- Brian Roy
Well just take the money from the new stimulus plan, take the billions set aside for groups like ACORN, and just give it to the banks. I mean, it worked the first time, right? :D
- Spencer
beachpig: A bunch of little bailouts are still bailouts. Throwing money at a problem doesn't work.
- Michael Ryan
Has BoA reached the stage of Zombie bank? I don't think so. (A zombie being a company destined to fail, but is currently sucking the life out of its market and/or government resources.) I'm glad to see Thain gone after his $1.2M office remodel.
- Brett Morrison
Yeah but if they required people to pay off their debts...then the money goes through the system..the way it is, a bunch of banks are just sitting on it..
- beachpig
from twhirl
The scary part is the money that is being funneled to these banks by the Federal Reserve outside of TARP. It's done without transparency and is far more than the money in TARP I or II.
- AJ Kohn
The banks are sitting on it because all people act for a profit and it is most profitable to sit on it if you can. Banks are not a public service, they are private companies run by private citizens. A bailout of those mortgage owners--who, like the banks, lived beyond their means--would act just as irresponsibly.
- Michael Ryan
Here is the reality people need to realize, and realize now. The government can't spend away the problems industries face.
- Spencer
Sen. Bob Corker, R-Tenn., said Thursday he's "leaning against" voting in favor of releasing the funding, because he thinks banks are hoarding the government aid to hedge against future losses. <-- article foxnews.com This is just getting more scary by the day.
- mrsha
@Michael: +34. If I hear any more about judges potentially resetting loans to keep people wildly over their head in their homes (and thus keeping the price of homes unnaturally high) I will ... well, I'll continue to write to Senators and Congresspeople.
- AJ Kohn
So essentially..we are in an infinite loop of nothing every working...sounds good..ill keep my government job then.
- beachpig
from twhirl
If any of these systematic failures had any real consequence for the top brass we'd see far fewer topple. But when the upside is enormous and the downside protected, why bother to avoid tremendous risk?
- Megan
amen. if only congress and the other regulators realized this (or, more importantly, had a vested interest in doing something besides ignoring the problem)...
- Shawn C. Reed
@Megan: Agreed. And ... if the top marginal tax rate were higher (e.g - pre-Reagan) the greed that has fueled the markets would have been *far* less pronounced. [ducking]
- AJ Kohn
Fire the C-Level and demand their pay back from them for poor performance. Nationalize the bank and hold it until it can pay back its obligation to the US Citizens as we are footing the bill for their incompetence.
- Robert Miller
It was widely known that the initial rescue funds would not be sufficient (not just the American one). We've only seen the first wave of cash, there will need to be plenty more to come. I pity the poor guys who are having to go through the paper trail of debt.
- Steven Cains
+1 beach. who didn't know this was coming, so I can smack them in the mouth?
- Anthony Citrano
Was I the only one that saw that special where the CEO of BoA said they didn't even wanna take any of the bail out money but the Gov made them take the money... Now they need more? humph! OH and anyone with half a brain knew the fired CEO was blowing smoke up their asses...smh
- Jayson Flint
@Megan: Absolutely right. The folks that got us into this mess still have their jobs, which is wrong.Secondly, if your industry is so special it needs to be protected with bailout cash the flip-side is greater regulation. You can't just take the cash and do with it as you please, that is ridiculous. I'm with Nassim Taleb who wants a strict banking/funds division so banks cannot take risks, that's for the investors to do.
- Alex Gibbons
How can you take over most every bank in America and still be in the red?
- xero
xero: When you take over those banks, you take over their debt too...
- Shawn C. Reed
Oh, so intelligent purchasing wasn't a factor in this? ;)
- xero
xero: Hahaha...I'm guessing not so much, no. ;)
- Shawn C. Reed
I think it is more likely "Intelligence was not a factor"; purchasing or otherwise.
- Robert Miller
Thain paid those billions out in bonuses to his bankers as a reward for their excellent work. In losing another 15 billion makings some of the stupidest investments in history. These (investment) bankers are nothing more than theives in tailored suits.
- Indio Apache
from twhirl
Collect them all! I had no idea about the Whole Foods guy.... But I LOVE Whole Foods so much better than Wild Oats. And isn't Mackey just dreamy?! <-- That's a joke you'll only get if you RTFA
- Paul Reynolds
"This particular Twitter posting came back to bite the agency person from Ketchum (New York office) who made some unflattering remarks about Memphis this morning before he presented on digital media to the worldwide communications group at FedEx (150+) people. Not only did an employee find it, they were totally offended by it and responded to the agency person."
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Sure, I've foolishly done things like this. Luckily for me it wasn't in quite such a high-profile and career-derailing manner.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
from IM
Good for this employee. And for the record Memphis is an amazing city.
- Keith - @tsudo
What an idiot. This just proves what Robert has been saying since Day One: What you say online IS relevant. Plus, I wrote about it on LG.com a long time ago http://www.louisgray.com/live...
- Mona Nomura
wow... bummer!..... and most people complain when no one replies on their tweets. I'll bet this guy isn't one of them
- Peter Efland
Does he grasp the vast significance? The sheer magnitude? Oh my.
- Martha
BACON + CUTE KID ALERT! *falls out of chair due to "cute" overload!*
- Susan Beebe
I can hear it now "Milan, can you move a little closer to the oscar mayer? Just a little bit more. If you do, I'll buy you a KitKat. Say "Bacon"."
- Martha
Bacon is amazing, oh, Cute kid too :-)
- John Bellone
Actually that was Maryam holding him. He loves the iPhone a lot more than bacon. He also loves running.
- Robert Scoble
Sally: he's so happy most of the time but he is tempermental. If he doesn't get his way he lets you know. I guess he got some of my bad traits too! ;-)
- Robert Scoble
I think he is Irish, by the way. He does this funny little Irish-style dance everytime he is really happy. Did it right in the middle of Costco today. Why can't kids stay cute like that forever?
- Robert Scoble
Robert, did you have the Bacon Martini at the Double Down Saloon while you were in Vegas?
- Joe Lima
Thats actually a "Quote" like a quote that should be in a book somewhere. "Defining smart people is like defining porn, you know it when you see it" sorry I paraphrased a little.
- Cody Heitschmidt
Or, to rephrase, "I don't know smart, but I know what I like!" ;)
- Phil G
Strange I actually enjoy porn featuring smart people. Nerdgy.
- Kevin Murray
What a great haircut Patrick. He tried to get to Fry's tonight but it was closed so we are playing in the dirt instead. Merry Christmas, Patrick says!
- Robert Scoble
from email
My guess is that if Patrick came to our place, he wouldn't take apart the Nativity scene and throw Baby Jesus to the ground, right? ;-)
- Louis Gray
Louis: you never know! He might take apart your Tivo instead.
- Robert Scoble
Sweet kids. Patrick is pretty agile, huh? Check out his left leg.
- Migger
Happy Holidays, Robert! I hear I missed seeing the kids at LeWeb...Ayelet Noff and I were saying how adorable they are. Were your ears burning? Oh wait, it would have been Patrick's now that he can hear again! :-)
- Ravit Lichtenberg
cute kids!!! Merry Christmas to and your gorgeous family!
- Susan Beebe