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Steve Rubel posted a link

Fitbit - Automatically Track Your Fitness and Sleep

September 10 at 3:21 am - via Bookmarklet - Link

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This looks really cool. - Steve Rubel via Bookmarklet

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I want one! Just signed up for email notification. - Joey Lo

Intrigued. - Andy Roth

This is one of the most promising startups I've seen recently. - Alexander Carlill

very cool - will give us nerds sleepless nights! ;) - Dieter Schwarz

I like it! I'd want a Fitbit widget <g> to show graphs in my blog's sidebar. - Brent Logan

cool - Maryam Ardakani

Definitely buying this. - Alexander Carlill

All depends on the effective accuracy of pedometer and polysomnograph-like measurements. People overestimate their exercise and underestimate their caloric intake when asked to journal. One day, I hope, the devices and services will be accurate and unobtrusive enough to show us what we're really doing to our bodies. - Kawika Holbrook

I weigh myself every night and I'll notice if I have bags under my eyes in the morning. Not sure I am willing to drop $99 to REVOLUTIONIZE PERSONAL BIOANALYTICS just yet. - Daniel J. Pritchett

Seems cool. But how does it tell when you're sleeping? - Kevin Pedraja

I dont want to be consciouss that much... not ready ... its like having a sport coach and diet doctor as inner voice... creepy - Alemsah

@Kevin, more importantly, and where do you put it while you're sleeping ;) - Marko Bon

similar product http://www.fitbug.com - vepa

Watched the presentation on UStream - this is revolutionary - monitors your sleep, exercise and diet? Brilliant!!! - Robyn Hawk

Does this take into account speed, weight, incline, intensity and so forth? - Mo Kargas

more similar products, http://www.walkingspree.com (web 2.0 and uses an accelerometer like fitbit with focus on corporate wellness - disclosure - I'm with this company), https://www.virginhealthmiles.... (corporate wellness)/, http://www.walkstyles.com (also has web 2.0 features) - Lisa R

I saw this at TC50, and I was extraordinarily impressed. Definitely worth being on the pre-order list. - Steve Spalding

Has anyone actually seen this in action? I'm going to buy it, but I'd like to know how much it lives up to promises made. - Alexander Carlill

sleeping with all those waves...are u sure it's healthy? - David Sadigh

What about those who sleep in the buff? What are we...errr...they supposed to clip it to? - Matt Musgrave

Matt: It comes with a wrist strap. - Alexander Carlill

Anyone know what kind of reporting you get? Analytics? - Tim FitzGerald

There's a picture around somewhere of what the site looks like in use - gives you: a breakdown of time spent sedentary, slightly active, very active; length of sleep and number of times woken up; calorie expenditure, intake and remaining. Stuff like that. - Alexander Carlill

Carsten Ullrich posted a message on Twitter

“Build a primitive RSS feed for academic events in China based on eventseer data. http://is.gd/1poJ There must be more out there, any links?”

August 12 at 9:53 pm - Link

Joey Lo liked this

Pretty cool, and I have built a clone of Data Mining http://shurl.org/kgFQH - Socrates Lee

Philip posted a message on Twitter

“Did anyone actually see GaryVee on Fox? I only saw a cartoon about Pinata's, maybe there's another Fox channel”

July 19 at 6:06 am - Link

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Dedric "That One" Lam shared an item on Google Reader

No blacks or Mongolians for bars, or no sources for SCMP?

July 19 at 6:17 am - Link

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Andrew Shuttleworth bookmarked a page on delicious

FeedMySearch

July 14 at 5:18 pm - Link

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Creates an RSS feed of Google search result changes. Works for images etc, not just web. - Andrew Shuttleworth

Chris Brogan posted an entry on chrisbrogan.com

50 Ways Marketers Can use Social Media to Improve Their Marketing

July 14 at 8:13 pm - Link

Julian Baldwin, Mike Fruchter, Nancy Stall and 16 other people liked this

great post Chris - luca Filigheddu

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Great post, I'm learning so much from you. Keep rockin! - Denise

Thanks Chris, and love number 43. - Sarah

@chrisbrogan is relentless in the creation of usable compelling content. I love his stuff and hate that I'm not half as productive. - Barry Reicherter via twhirl

i love the last part of #47 "be a good citizen." for me, that is the essence of what builds trust with anyone trying to promote a product. - mike

Wow! Outstanding list Chris, thanks - Keith Childs

Juicy post... thanks! - Pedro Rocha

Fred Wilson posted a message on Twitter

“The most famous painting is also the most photographed http://bit.ly/2NzTx”

July 13 at 6:21 am - Link

americanm, Dave Hussein Martin, Tegan Dowling and 3 other people liked this

I feel bad for all the other paintings nearby....no one even notices them. - Hrag

A-list painting. - Jay Tannenbaum

A-List paintings are dead! - Sprague D

Simon posted a link

The Safest Seat to Sit In On a Plane is… | FlowingData

July 13 at 12:53 am - via Bookmarklet - Link

Udi, Nathan, David Recordon and 14 other people liked this

Contrary to expert statements that "one seat is safe as the other," the study found that it is safer to sit in the back. [...] Passengers near the tail of a plane are about 40 percent more likely to survive a crash than those in the first few rows up front. [69% survival rate vs 49%] - Simon via Bookmarklet

One advantage to my lack of elite status when I fly. - Hutch Carpenter

good to know I can save that extra cash and sit in the back... - Nathan

They should subtract out all crashes where there are no survivors. - Sam Pullara

Robert Scoble posted a message

“Why does FriendFeed recommend that you subscribe to people, but it doesn't also recommend blocking certain people too? I notice certain people are getting blocked by tons of people. Unfortunately newbies will have to see their spew for a while until they get wise that they can block them too.”

July 12 at 10:52 pm - Link

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What, like a most frequently blocked list? Interesting idea. I actually think some might strive to make such a list. - AJ Kohn

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Unless it is blatantly obvious spam I would hope FriendFeed would not recommend blocking people. That just seems so against the idea of social inyeraction even though some control is necessary. - Scott Jarkoff

What a blow to the suggested blockee's self-confidence, unless they're a spam bot. - Eric Schlissel via twhirl

AJ: yeah, that's the downside of such a list. - Robert Scoble

@scobleizer: Their recommendation algorithm is so basic ! based only on how "popular" were those users... I won't trust a redcommended "to block" list if they implement it - directeur via NoiseRiver

maybe FF can just slightly lighten the color of a blocked person's text each time someone blocks them, so by the time 10 people block them, their messages are #FFFFFF ;-) Hmmm why is this text in gray? lol - Karim

@yesthatkarim: That's called karma. And karma, Karim, is a bad thing :) - directeur via NoiseRiver

Shouldn't it be up to the individual to figure it out for themselves? FF is filled with intelligent folks with common sense... - Mona N.

Fortunately I haven't encountered any spammers here on FF yet. If I ever end up on someone's $#!+ list though, I hope someone tells me about it. Don't worry, my ego won't be hurt. I got a bottle in the cupboard I've been just dying to dive into anyways so I'll be ok ;-) - Paul Short

Paul: If I drank everytime someone put me on their #$% list I'd be alcoholic. :-) Mona: of course, but I just thought it was fun that FriendFeed has a recommended list, which is really a popularity thing, but doesn't tell you the other end of the scale, those people who got blocked a lot. - Robert Scoble

@scobleizer: We once discussed about popularity and interests. I created a way to see who's intersting for you on FriendFeed. I humbly think that it's the way things should work :) - directeur via NoiseRiver

I know... but in high school I made a lot of people feel crappy and vice versa. This is the internet, but e-feelings DO matter, don't they? i mean I don't have 16k + followers but imagine how you would feel if you were put up on that list... Those people are black listed for a reason and if anything, it'd fuel their negative attention whoring even more, no? - Mona N.

This goes against the entire spirit of social networks.. Hope none of the social networks do this. - Muthu Ramadoss

Robert, just like HR departments can't say anything negative about former employees without risking liability, maybe it wouldn't be right for FF to formally blacklist people. - Sprague D

I don't understand how this goes against social media. Social media is all about using society to circulate, comment, and recommend media. Noting things that the majority doesn't like should be part of that. - xero

Sprague, Muthu, and Mona: you're right. It's a bad idea. It would actually reinforce negative behaviors, too. Sorry. Sometimes my thoughts aren't good. :-) - Robert Scoble

Though, it could be easily abused... Better ignored than actively blocked. - xero

I'm guessing because they don't want to be sued. - Morton Fox

I'm with@muthu - one of the things I love about FF is that it lets people tailor the experience for themselves. I would leave if they began instituting some kind of official recommendations on who to block and who not to block - Marco (aureliusmaximus)

Don't stop thinking out loud, though. - Chris Baskind

Just like in society, you can pick and choose who you want to interact with..... "hide" or "block" are two extremely useful features! - Mona N.

Robert: FF is the only place i've ever been able to have civil discussion on the internet haha. Regardless of if I agree or disagree, I think it's great you just say whatever is on your mind.... I guess that's why you're.. what was that word? A Technical Evangelist... HA - Mona N.

it would just cause a person to create a new account the moment they got the hint of mass blocking. I would say it should be a third party gem. - InsaneNinja via fftogo

After thinking about this, an *unpopularity* list may not be such a good idea. Personally, I still follow and read people here and on other services that the community at large have declared to be trolls, unpopular, or whatever. I still find their stuff interesting, in a slowing-down-to-see-the-wreck sort of way. "One mans garbage is another mans gold... and all that. But that's just me... - Paul Short

Why does it recommend people but not say why they are recommended. Just because someone is an A list blogger, doesn't mean they blog about stuff you are interested in. Why not do it like Google reader and recommend people based on what they blog about (ie. photos, tech, politics, etc) - CJPhoto

Scoble, how do you know a person is blocked by other people? (I gotta say, I generally don't have that problem though, as I first read a person's stream before making a decision.) - Vincent van Wylick

The last thing I'd want is new users assuming that the admins of FriendFeed are personally deciding who's worthy and who isn't around here. The only way it would work is if FriendFeed was completely transparent with the metrics used to determine who is on the Yea list and who is on the Nay list. Even then, I still think it's a bad idea: new users should be allowed to discover things for themselves without preconception. Remember, let each user shape the noise. - Akiva Moskovitz

sounds like FF karma - Robyn Miller

I thinking following and blocking are something each individual needs to sort through. I have followed, unfollowed, and then re-followed a few people who irritated me with some comments, or just began a spammy incoherent noise fest. Other I just grew weary of hearing the same strident message on a daily basis. - Michael VanDervort via twhirl

Ah, so if the A-List is dead, then we need to get working on the Z-list to preserve our need for hierarchy. - Michael Hussein Markman

Isn't the recommended list just a list of people who appear most often on the friend lists of your current friends? What would the not recommended list be - a list people that aren't on the friend list of any of your friends? A bit too xenophobic perhaps? - Brian Sullivan

something against newbies? the most blocking-worth people on FF are some of the so-called blogstars, imho. - Davide Tarasconi via twhirl

Might as well add a "karma/digg" system to Friendfeed users. Then we can battle each-other RPG style. Pissed someone off? -1 point. - "Czar" DJ Peterman

We'll need something eventually. The spammers are going to start spamming friend requests soon enough. I've already had to deal with spam on twitter, and I have very few people I'm following. - Mr. Gunn

Elliott Ng posted a link

Cartoon: Twitter Dating - ReadWriteWeb

July 13 at 4:44 am - via Bookmarklet - Link

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Can't date on Twitter? What about get a FriendFeed room? - Elliott Ng via Bookmarklet

LOL. Love it. Yah, a FF room for singles would be a great idea. I'm afraid you can't join though, Elliott. - Joey Lo

Steve Rubel posted a message on Twitter

“As the iPhone begins to resemble and be used like a computer, we will have to contend with challenges like crashing and battery life.”

July 13 at 5:37 am - Link

Roberto Bonini, Aron Michalski, Dave Plumber Winer and 18 other people liked this

Don't forget the viruses :) - Nir Ben Yona via twhirl

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Already had that happening before,but yes, it's getting worse. I've become adept at whipping out a charger when I'm near power - Robyn Miller

excuses excuses - steve got a large "jobs juice" this morning - Allen Stern

I usually describe my iPod Touch as a pocket computer that can also play media. The iPhone is a pocket computer that can also be used as a phone. - Michael Connick

You serious about crashing iPhones??? - Roberto Bonini

@rbonini, I have had to do a hard reboot at least once every other day. It sometimes takes me a minute to even get it to respond to a power button hold, and then longer because I can't move the slider. - Robyn Miller

totally agree. Heres a test report on smartphone battery life under 'mobile internet' conditions. http://tinyurl.com/5mbr89 - Steve 'Chippy' Paine

Battery life is the major hurdle the mobile phones need to conquer. - Muthu Ramadoss

Do we need Intel to come in to picture for the processor at least with better performance and less power consumption. I think the processor has to scale up before these phones can smoothly support all the pc functions - Umesh Kakkad

I predict the next iPhone will have a multicore processor - Alan Cheslow

I been hearing the battery story for 5 years now! iPhone is nothing new, it is a PDA with Windows CE! Solve the battery problem and stop lying how many hour it will hold charge! You lucky if you can finish a DVD on a clean charge? - Igor The Troll

I cannot use the Camera or go into Photo album right now on iPhone - both crash every time. Starting a restore... - Sean Alexander

The current iPhone has multiple processors. It has 3 ARM chips in it. 3G may have the ARM multi-core chips. Not sure. The power draw isn't the processor, it is the network, screen and GPS. This is why it lasts longer when that stuff is off. - Kevin Goldsmith via twhirl

Yes, just do not watch movies, no surfing the net, and no GPS! Is this like 8 years ago? Voice and SMS? - Igor The Troll

I wouldn't put up with that - #1 priority is reliability - it's a phone first. What happens in an emergency and it's frozen? - David

David: all my phones have crashed at some point or another. It's one reason why I carry three phones. - Robert Scoble

I don't use phones. I like that. the joys of being unemployed is I don't want it. - Another ⓃⓄⒶⒽ

how about microcomputer rice cooker? can it crash while cooking? - Pajama Domain via twhirl

agree with Robert Scoble - my n95 crashes all the time, including while having phone conversation! - Pajama Domain via twhirl

I thought the iPhone ran BSD/OS X, not Windows Mobile - MiniMage LightBlueRanger via NoiseRiver

The worst things about the iPhone are the charge time and the inability to search email by author - Seth Shapiro

my N95 never crashes - Ivan Pope via twhirl

ProBlogger Room: Ben Parr posted a message

“Which design do you find to be most aesthetically pleasing (and optimal): left sidebar, right sidebar, one left and one right, or two right? Trying to decide for my blog redesign.”

July 10 at 7:08 am - Link

Joey Lo, Alex Cristache, orionstarr and Joseph Z. liked this

Right sidebar. Because English speaking folks read from left to right, your eye gets to the main content more quickly, while still having access to auxiliary info as needed. Also makes for a more mobile friendly website if you haven't taken specific actions to make it mobile friendly. - Gregory Pittman

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It's a tie between two right sidebars or one left and right. - Summer

I prefer the right sidebar for the same reason as Gregory. English speakers read from left to right. Now, if it's a site in Hebrew.... - Jason Goldberg

For some reason I don't like a left sidebar. I tried 2 rights, but it's hard to pull off. I think the number of stuff you want to have in your sidebars warrants having both a really well-optimized header and a 3 column layout. - Joseph Z.

I've been using the right side. - orionstarr

Either one or two sidebars, but mostly both on right. - Alex Cristache

right side, good font, simple layout :) - Stagekid

I like all sidebars on the right, but prefer just one slightly wider sidebar. - Rah™

michael arrington posted a message on Twitter

“wow, got @ev to sit down and talk on qik about twitter and it failed twice even with wifi. Qik is failing too often.”

July 11 at 11:13 am - Link

Joey Lo, Jack, Brian Daniel Eisenberg and Jim McCusker liked this

Ask some tougher questions... - Jim McCusker

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You don't think it was the Twitter forcefield that makes all technologies go down which did it? - Louis Gray

twitter jinx!! - Damien Franco

LOL. Louis said Twitter forcefield. - Brian Daniel Eisenberg

Twitter failfield? J/k, I think twitter is getting things under control. - Sam Pullara

Mike, I sent you a tweet just after you posted this, asking if it was Qik or the phone (in the video, you said it was "the Qik phone" that died). Whatever it is, we want to get it sorted out ASAP. Bhaskar is on it. - Jackie

Hah. Maybe if Arrington played nice I'd teach him how to fix this problem. - Robert Scoble

There needs to be a way in FF to give props to specific comments. @scobleizer's deserves a :) - Christian Anderson via fftogo

Hear Hear! Couldn't agree more with Christian Anderson - case in point that I can't flag his comment - I want the system to help me be systematic, that's all. Don't want to be _that_ complainer _guy_, just voicing the acute pain point. - Micah Wittman

Robert Scoble posted a message

“Best line heard in Apple Store, from Nick Starr: "the are running on Twitter servers." the credit card approval system is down.”

July 11 at 8:28 am - Link

tinu, jeremy franklin, mr-mojo-risin and 65 other people liked this

If they were running on Windows, they wouldn't be down. ;) - John Denver

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Well of course, OS X servers can't handle the load. They should have used Linux. - Jake (aka Jawee) via twhirl

actually the credit card machines ARE running Windows. - Robert Scoble

windows really ???? - Raza via Alert Thingy

Seems like a mini-Black Friday - Lois Gray

In Germany everything went smooth, only short waiting (at least at the time I bought mine....) Only they had far too few phones everywhere - Markus

Yeah. Windows. That's always been the joke...apple stores running Windows paypoint software. - Jerry Chacon via twhirl

Apple store running Windows.. And SJ wants everyone to run Apple! - Muthu Ramadoss

I agree with Lois. This does not look good for Apple or ATT - Jerry Chacon via twhirl

If an Apple service goes down, is it a fail lemming? - Ontario Emperor

From a buzz perspective, what is interesting is that most of the comments are along the lines of "It sucks that the activation is down, but it won't affect my interest in getting a 3G" Nobody seems to take a negative position other than "I might wait a couple days to get an iPhone" - David Thomas

@John Denver - haven't you ever looked at their checkout PDAs? They are Windows Mobile devices, so they probably *are* running Windows servers. - Hillary Hartley

Twitter did raise their API limit. Who knows, maybe Apple is using Twitter. Was anybody asked for their Twitter account details? :D - Manu Ullas via twhirl

Maybe twitter raised the API temporarily to handle the IPhone hype? Might check their blog. - Mo Kargas

Chris posted a message on Twitter

“Are people really waiting in lines for a new iPhone? You know that they are going to upgrade next year, & the year after that, and...right?”

July 11 at 5:55 am - Link

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Welcome to Apple World, I've payed 2000€ for a MBP in december...apple updated it twice since... - Jean-François Amadei via twhirl

MG Siegler posted a link

Cow farts collected in plastic tank for global warming study - Telegraph

July 9 at 6:47 pm - via Bookmarklet - Link

John Lam, Lindsay Donaghe, Rajesh and 46 other people liked this

"In a bid to understand the impact of the wind produced by cows on global warming, scientists collected gas from their stomachs in plastic tanks attached to their backs." - MG Siegler via Bookmarklet

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OMG - AJ Batac ♘

Oh good grief! - Adam Turetzky

I just love the photo. - Rob Schonberger

I'm not trying to be funny when I mention that may be dangerous - methane is flammable. Ok, it is funny if you think of those things becoming like a jetpack. - Vince DeGeorge

HAHA that made me LAUGH OUT LOUD - Mona N.

OMG, seriously you guys, that is so totally gross. LOL - Rah™

Oh, that poor thing even looks embarrassed. Vegetarianism, anyone? :-) - Joanmarie

These Scientists should try the experiment on their self! - Alex Sauceda

Human toots don't contain methane very often, makes strapping tanks on scientists a fairly unfeasible alternative. Needs a no smoking sign IMO. - Not Not Geoff Schultz

Not to be rude, but I know a few flatuent humans who would be perfect for this study. where do I sign them up? - Jason Kaneshiro

Cow with jet packs... I AM ... IRON COW - Yolanda

@Yolanda I'm wiping the tears from my eyes! - Capn' "One-Eye" Longman ☠

Where can I get one of those? - Jason Runyan

This could take cow tipping to a another place - Jon Dillon

So with enough burritos, this cow could float? http://tinyurl.com/methanedens... - Kip

lol @Yolanda. Me, I had a Hindenberg parody all ready to go, but when the radio announcer started comparing the smell of the burning cow to BBQ, it got a little dark even for me. - Karim

The poor cow looks mortified, and the English government will give grants for anything apparently. - Jacob

And you wonder how we ended up with mad cows - Jon Dillon

more like pissed-off cows. - Victor Ryden

what will the scientists do next? - Rahul Das

Yolanda, FTW! - Sujal Shah

ok, somebody send this to the Journal of Irreproducible Results - Bruce Williams

I thought the majority of the methane they produced came from burps, not farts... - Michael Hylkema

McCain and Bush already devising plan to drop the cows on Iran. - Chris Reed

Bwana McCall posted a link

iPhone Apps I've Downloaded

July 10 at 8:34 am - via Bookmarklet - Link

Mike Doeff, AJ Batac ♘, Hao Chen and 15 other people liked this

Going mostly free for now, but these are the ones I'm going to try initially. - Bwana McCall via Bookmarklet

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I installed the itunes update, but I don't see that in the store. It probably isn't there because I haven't registered an iphone yet. - ∵JPGlockner∴

J. Phil - Here is a direct link http://phobos.apple.com/WebObj... - Bwana McCall

Just found another - Tuner. Internet Radio baby!! w0000000. $13 is a tad much though - Bwana McCall

AIM? - Al Degutis via twhirl

Thought the same on the Tuner app. Pandora is there for free so I'm starting there. - Shellee

Heard from someone who downloaded AIM app it's only 0.5 MB (!) - Mona N.

they download pretty fast - Bwana McCall

i'm just surprised the aim app is so light... i expected it to be at least 5mb. i mean it IS aim and all haha - Mona N.

How's the AIM app? I want iChat! - Michael Narciso

Little buggy...it crashed on initial install. I reinstalled it and now it's working. So far, Midomi is the coolest app I've tried followed by Exposure. - Bwana McCall

mashable posted a message on Twitter

“This Entitlement of Free Needs to Go Away ( http://tinyurl.com/6s8aka )”

July 10 at 9:33 am - Link

Mike Hussein Cohen, sergiooo, Shey and 4 other people liked this

Yes. At some point this will have to change. Not necessarily go away. Premium service models are always a good place to start. However, you need to offer some level of FREE in order to get users engaged and invested. :) - Miguel23

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I like microtransactions, as opposed to a full blown subscription model. - Charles Ju

i have to concur, i should only pay when i'm fully engaged, although that doesn't help with reliable revenue flows for any of these companies - Jeff Woelker via twhirl

[Looks into crystal ball] I predict an ad slowdown from the recession will push content providers back to a Pay for Premium model. Which would be fine by me. I don't mind paying for services. - Sprague D

The freemium model works but only for products where there is a real value proposition for the premium version. Flickr is a good example, where lots of us have paid to upgrade because we wanted more photo albums, etc. But it's really hard to do with services like Twitter, where heavy users use the same capabilities, just in higher volume. Sure, you could charge for the ability to follow more than x people or post more than x tweets per month, but then you'd lose the heavy users to another service. Some businesses fit the ad model well, others fit a freemium approach. But for some (particularly communications infrastructure tools like Twitter) it's going to be a challenge to come up with a biz model that works. Instead, I think you'll see them be acquired by larger tech or media companies who will fund the bandwidth in return for the usage, a la gmail, gtalk, etc. - Barry Graubart via twhirl

Interesting article. I have worked for two different companies that embraced the walled garden and both those companies 'went free' to compete. It was also interesting that although those companies had subscriber fees, they also had ads. - gregory

I very much agree with this. On our elite tech news podcasts we've touched on this issue before. I am increasingly dismayed with how our free services encourage "digital cheapskates" who expect everything for free. - Jason Kaneshiro

I'm someone who benefits from all of these great web services and wouldn't mind if I had to pay for some of them, (like Flickr before I paid for it) wanted me to host my own content. I have tons of web space that I'm not even using. I think I'm drifting from the point, sorry. The point is that I don't like monthly subscriptions but I'm happy paying for Flickr and Quicktime Pro. I don't mind microtransactions either. I'd probably pay for a big set of Friendfeed filter and thread management tools too. - sergiooo

I remember writing on this topic a while ago...ah, here it is http://franticindustries.com/2... ...and yeah, good article. Not an easy topic, though. - Stan Schroeder

there is a lot of stuff i would pay for... i used to buy the paper for 25 cents a day just to read doonesbury ... i would pay a few blogs 50 cents a week to read them occasionally ... and some services too ... this pay-for model lets creative thinking happen ..... what would you demand friendfeed be like before you would give them some cash? - Gregory Lent

mashable posted an entry on Mashable!

This Entitlement of Free Needs to Go Away

July 10 at 9:33 am - Link

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Yes. At some point this will have to change. Not necessarily go away. Premium service models are always a good place to start. However, you need to offer some level of FREE in order to get users engaged and invested. :) - Miguel23

Pandora's box --once opened it is not going to be closed or go away -- ever - Brian Sullivan

Not according to Wired http://www.wired.com/techbiz/i... - Mark Krynsky

mashable posted a message on Twitter

“Look, I don't have a coffee problem...if anything, it's a coffee *solution*. (finishes 3rd cup)”

July 10 at 9:29 am - Link

Jill Howard Allen, Joey Lo, Roue Yecpot and 8 other people liked this

Hmmm, Coff-ay. . . - Greer Trice

I agree, I have a coffee conundrum, personally. - Miguel23

michael arrington posted a message on Twitter

“@shefaly chill the hell out. We all understand that, but a swastika appearing on the top of google search queries in the U.S. isn't normal.”

July 10 at 8:50 am - Link

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I think Michael's right, someone may have figured out a way to game Google Trends. Keep on top of this Michael, especially finding out if this was truely gamed and what Google is doing to rectify the issue. It would be nice to be able to trust Google Trends, but if it can be easily gamed then what's the use? - Jim McCusker

a friend of mine tells me that (chinese) symbol is seen a lot in taiwan. im curious about if they gamed the stats or what - Ruben Llibre

Oh yeah man, I noticed those sneaky SEO "gurus" are filling up our webs with Junk ass link dummy farm sites and taking strange words and phrases and pulling them to the top of Google Trends somehow and people click around more to figure out what these things are, next thing you know you have been through 5 sites that have the same exact nonsense content. UGH. I don't even know what this swastika thing is about, I'm just replying to Jim McCusker. - Miguel23

michael arrington posted a message

“Our sources are saying Microsoft is NOT buying Mahalo, at least yet, and this guy is smoking crack http://friendfeed.com/search?q...”

July 7 at 4:12 pm - Link

Joey Lo, Rodney Rumford, Mark Douglass and 21 other people liked this

duh - Pat Hawks

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were you able to confirm that pfizer and nabisco are not in the running as well? - MG Siegler

i have no information on the rumored nabisco/phizer transaction :-) - michael arrington

What about TimeWarner, Michael? I heard it was TimeWarner. - Ken Sheppardson

Nabisco may still be in the running. Only because someone on Friend Feed started the rumor. :) - Candace Holly

You guys give smoking crack a bad name - Kip

I'll have to tell the meat packer at the local piggly-wiggly that they need to up the cash if Pfizer is involved. - Jason Shultz via twhirl

To be fair, it's no secret MS is currently scouting for small to mid web properties, I've heard of 3 firms already. With MSN now paying people to search, how long before it pays people to index? ;) - Cains

There you go Michael, playing the responsible adult that takes all the fun out of what otherwise could have been a 24 hour FF comment frenzy. What could have been a day filled with sheer joy for Jason has now been lost with this so-called truth telling on your part. Besides, I heard it was Kraft that was thinking about a JV, Mahalo Mac & Cheese or was it their Oscar Mayer brand cheese filled hotdog? - Dave Hussein Martin

sorry was a social media expert esperiment - Fred Grott

I have insider information that Nerf is buying Sun Microsystems for 4.5 million tons of foam. It's Nerf or nothing - The Geek Media

What would MS provide to Mahalo that it can't self provide? - jonn

They could rename it "MSN Windows Live HotMahalo Desktop SP1" - Pat Hawks

@Pat Hawks - a "HotMahalo" sounds like something you'd order from a beach bar in Cabo... - Kevin Briody

You're thinking of a Fuzzy Calacanis - Pat Hawks

wtf? fred, you just made it up on the spot? loser. - michael arrington

This just in, MS also not buying Apple, Nike, Rwanda, My blog and a Hot Dog from Eddie's cart in front of the court house. - Brian Norwood

Loser? No way. Was it crap he made it up? Yes. However, he generated quite a buzz on this little corner of FF getting the attention of some important people. In under an hour that comment got Lon Harris (from Mahalo) to reply and Robert Scoble twittered Jason Calacanis to ask for confirmation. Think of what something like that could generate by someone else. What if you wanted a "rumor" to "leak out". Grab a random FF subscriber, feed them some info and run with it. You sit back, watch the buzz go and then start to confirm it bit by bit. His little made up comment shows that it can get the word moving along pretty fast. - Candace Holly

Wait a minute. Now we are having mixed reports re: that hot dog from Eddie's. - Brian Norwood

(Its called herding behavior folk that means FF can be used as an unofficial pr tool..that also means that the Brand strength of Mahalo is quite big. - Fred Grott

@Fred - "Herding behavior" means that people are following a trend. Posting a rumor and getting a discussion out of it is not creating a "herd behavior" , it's "creating a buzz". Any social media network is used as a PR tool but, the question is being able to use it effectively which many companies are starting to figure out. - Candace Holly

mike, YOU ShoUld ChecK your sources more carefully next time. - Hao Chen

Be with us next time when Fred goes to a sold-out opening night of The Dark Knight and twenty minutes into the movie shouts FIRE. Just the social experiment needed to test that old canard once and for all. - Dave Hussein Martin

I heard MSFT is buying TC !! - Peter Dawson

Fred didn't make it up on the spot. There was a conversation fragment elsewhere on the web where people were reacting to Jason Calacanis' post re Summize/Twitter [1], and this was a reaction to that. Just another chapter in the Jared/Brian Eno/random rumor propagation drama. I wonder what happens next time when there's a (less widely traded) public company involved... [1] http://friendfeed.com/e/c55fd4... - Ken Sheppardson

the most interesting part was the interaction and how fast tit spread, do not worry its a one run experiment no nee dot run it again.. - Fred Grott

When you throw in the fact that we've got new social networks coming on line every few days and each time there's a land rush for people to grab their own (and others') identities, things could get very interesting at some point. - Ken Sheppardson

Fred - "the most interesting part was the interaction and how fast tit spread, do not worry its a one run experiment no nee dot run it again" don't worry, you spent your credibility capital, doesn't matter if you do it again. - michael arrington

all you did fred was make bloggers and journalists do work for no reason - that's silly - Allen Stern

I'm sure Mahalo will be just fine. - Another ⓃⓄⒶⒽ

Fred - Thomas Hawk (and others) have a vision for Gabe linking to FriendFeed threads from Techmeme. I'm guessing your "experiment" set that back a bit. Would you shout FIRE in a movie theater when there was none and then exclaim "the most interesting part was how fast they ran out of here" as you were being arrested? - Robert Seidman

allen, i certainly didn't do work on this one. unless leaving sassy comments on friendfeed counts as work. - Eric Eldon

eric i didnt do work on it either - ms buying mahalo would make zero sense at this point. i was speaking in generalities - Allen Stern

I did work. I made one neuron fire. It took that one to figure out that anyone can say anything with absolutely no source and still be heard on FriendFeed. I want my neuron back. - MG Siegler

i don't get it with Mahalo. You know i have never once been directed to a link on their site by anyone apart from Jason C. Nothing against him but thats the truth. - Zee from WeDoCreative

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For our latest mission, we filled a subway car with identical twins, creating a human mirror." - Improv Everywhere - Andrew Baron via Bookmarklet

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This is quite hilarious! Nice work! - Winston Teo

This is so innovative. I even showed it too my mom! I showed something on friendfeed to my mom! Nice work. - Rahul Das

Very funny. It reminds me of the famous I Love Lucy and Harpo Marx mirror gag - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v... - Mark Interrante

I saw that yesterday via BoingBoing -- love it! - Tamar Weinberg

That's what I call teamwork! - ChaCha Fance

I think it's amazing how twins stay the same weight and are so close to each other. - Michael Narciso

That would just blow my mind if I walked onto that train. - Jay Martin

What a creative and fun project. would have been fun to have stumbled upon this as it was being executed. - Jeff P. Henderson

@Michael I've know a pair of twins for a long time. They were identical when we were all children but now one is reed thin and the other is huge! They aren't very identical now! - Rahul Das

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