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Analyzing Twitter Lists-Follower Ratio As An Indicator of Influence | Skeptic Geek - http://www.skepticgeek.com/microbl...
Kol Tregaskes, Daniel Rowley, Mike Fruchter and 7 other people liked this
So, no correlation. And I was so happy about being listed. Oh well...
- Ignacio Rodriguez de R,
As I told Mahrendra, I could make my numbers look a lot better by reducing my feed by thousands of followers, and thereby increasing my ratio.
- Louis Gray
My "respect ratio" is 29. Do I get a prize?
- Sarah is Novembery
My Twitter List weigh-in: http://sharisax.com/2009...
- Shari Weiss
And as I replied to Louis, anyone can game Twitter, and he doesn't need to anyway. :)
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
Nice post Mahrendra. I have noticed people with >50k followers on 6/8 lists and those with 500 followers on 20 lists. When I've checked them out, all those accounts with the massive follower counts were basically using Twitter as a broadcast medium. Thanks for the post.
- Jim Connolly
Thank you, Jim. The phenomenon you describe was one of the things that led me to investigate this further. :)
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
Sorry folks, I can't follow anyone who calls himself an internet marketing guru
Patrick Nouhailler, Otto, Nicola Greco and 35 other people liked this
I'm an Internet Marketing Guru.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Me too. I'm an Internet Marketing Guru.
- Dave Winer
I am Spartacus. Oh wait, wrong thread.
- Derek Coward
I am also an internet marketing guru and SEO expert.
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
I am Malcolm X
- Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
I am the Internet.
- sofarsoShawn
I invented internet marketing.
- imabonehead
I sell my expert internet marketing services via daily inspirational affirmations applied through an SEO affiliated marketing program.
- Kurt Starnes
I'm just waiting for the one from @hotdogladies
- Alan Chamberlain
er, @hotdogsladies
- Alan Chamberlain
What's your position on consultants? :P
- Justin Whitaker
We need some more descriptors - especially for female guru-types. Just about everyone is a Queen, Goddess, Diva or Maven. But I think yer right, there, (please excuse faked down-home, upper-midwest accent) about that purported internet-marketing guru-dom, from either sex (I still think gender is something that has to do with grammar in foreign languages.) For one thing, in 2009, what's the diff between internet marketing and plain old marketing?
- MaryB, BrandingBroadOfFF
i'm the Bela Lugosi of parenting.
- Joe Silence is not dead
are you denying that internet marketing gurus exist?
- Vincent van Wylick
I just got 10 more followers on Twitter after I liked this entry and it went to my Twitter feed. :D
- Tarmo Aidantausta
lol same. I think Francine Hardaway is an internet marketing guru. :)
- Vincent van Wylick
I'm Anne Hathaway. and an Internet Marketing slut.
- Glen Campbell, B.A.
I'm an ignorant slut or so somebody told me.
- Brian Sullivan
I'm an ignorant slut expert
- Rodfather
Brian, yes, you've been told that... :(
- directeur
Oh! And I'm your father y'all, Luke, Rodfather, everyone! I'm your father
- directeur
I'm an internet marketing gnu.
- grace
Aspiring internet marketing guru, SEO expert, social media maven, web startup entrepreneur, venture capitalist, Robert Scoble clone and Nobel Peace Prize
- Michael Slattery
I am not a number!
- Her Lindsay-ness
I am the Walrus. Koo koo kee choo.
- Her Lindsay-ness
Self-proclaimed gurus, mentors, egg spurts--Lame!!
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
Lindsay-Lindsay-Bo-binsay must be a Brit. Prisoner and Beatles quotes after another - only Monty Python quote missing...
- Tarmo Aidantausta
Yes, I forgot: programmer rock star
- Michael Slattery
Just occurred to me that if the word 'author' appears in your bio without it referring to a specific multimedia-development or software process, you probably aren't really a writer.
- MaryB, BrandingBroadOfFF
@Tarmo - LOL - not a Brit... just married to a guy who has exposed me to a lot of British TV. :) Just to make you happy though: "I am Arthur, King of the Britons!"
- Her Lindsay-ness
King of the who?
- Michael Slattery
If the word "Arthur" appears in your bio without it referring to a specific who, you probably aren't really a king
- Michael Slattery
Internet Speeds and Costs Around the World - http://thenextweb.com/shareab...
Jeff P. Henderson, Pavlo Zahozhenko, saku7up and 10 other people liked this
I'm confused about what the pie chart is supposed to show. Is that some kind of breakdown of the sum of all the average speeds? Japan is just under a quarter of all the average speeds? That doesn't seem to make any sense.
- Andy Bakun
I expected to see USA has the highest speeds at the lowest costs. But it seems its Japan .
- TrafficBug
It really shouldn't be a pie chart, there is no "total" for each slice to be a percentage of.
- Jason Wehmhoener
Isn't that the fact that Japan and Korea has one of the highest speed? That is the fact! :( US has those bureaucratic channels that companies have to go through(regulations) yikes!
- polou/indigo_bow
The problem has less to do with government regulation and more to do with old telecom monopolies.
- Jason Wehmhoener
Anyone who thinks Japan and Korea are unregulated markets has been sharing a crack pipe with the Free Market Fairy.
- Michael R. Bernstein
Actually Michael R, u know Japan's market is regulated too, on the mobile phone side, oh its very complex, I have relatives living there they can let me in more about it.
- polou/indigo_bow
Education Week: Twitter Lessons in 140 Characters or Less - http://www.edweek.org/login...
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"The Twitter feed for Lucas Ames’ class in American history has shown some lively exchanges of ideas and opinions among students at the Flint Hill School. One day this month, 11th graders at the private school in Oakton, Va., shared articles on the separation of church and state, pondered the persistence of racism, and commented on tobacco regulation in Virginia now and during the Colonial period—all in the required Twitter format of 140 or fewer characters. "
- Howard Rheingold
Howard, interesting post, might be cool to mention the recent discussion in the UK about the break away from the Church of England and compare to the colonial period. Were you interested because of the use of the technology or the history? Found you because I was searching on colonial history.
- John Cass
The use of the technology is what attracted me, not the specific subject. Howard Rheingold howard@rheingold.com http://twitter.com/hrheingold http://www.rheingold.com http://www.smartmobs.com http://vlog.rheingold.com what it is ---> is --->up to us
- Howard Rheingold
from email
FriendFeed update. Paul Buchheit wrote me and said he's been very sick the past few days. That might explain why he hasn't engaged the way we want. He also offered to do an interview with me to discuss the future of FriendFeed and what they are doing at Facebook soon. We're working that out, hopefully soon (but might not be until November sometime)
Mitchell Tsai, Bertrand Doux, alfred westerveld and 114 other people liked this
I don't know if that's a good idea for you, Robert. You might be better off making a clean break from FriendFeed.
- Bruce Lewis
Thanks Robert, that's great news! Paul, hope you feel better...
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Bruce: FriendFeed=Facebook. So, I'm interested in what he's doing and I'm a big fan of Facebook's. Twitter needs some competition. The Fail Whale is getting to me.
- Robert Scoble
Another reliable update.
- ashish
I know it's a stretch but can we gather specific questions for Paul to answer?
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
When other sites like twitter come out with new features, you want to be at the front of the excited crowd. FriendFeed will make you into that curmudgeon who's always saying, "So what? They did that two years ago at FriendFeed."
- Bruce Lewis
I guess the rusty wheel gets the oil...
- Cjay
Cjay: I've been working on this interview since before Facebook bought FriendFeed. :-)
- Robert Scoble
manielse: well, the interview isn't on 100% yet and now that I've talked about it in public who knows what will happen? But if it does happen of course we'll get you involved.
- Robert Scoble
Cjay: I might be a rusty wheel, but remember two things: 1. I put many many thousands of hours into FriendFeed before the sale, bringing my audience over here at great risk to my personal brand. Lots of "experts" like Mike Arrington told me I was wrong to do that. 2. I'm still here.
- Robert Scoble
OMGAWWWWW he still has "it"
- sofarsoShawn
oh im sorry Robert thats "The squeaky wheel gets the oil first" hehe, wasnt saying your are getting old or anything.
- Cjay
sofarso: I never lost it. :-)
- Robert Scoble
But yes I would agree that allowing and or resting your personal branding on a service thats based on a cloud application with it's roots depending on a social network model is very risky.
- Cjay
Cjay: actually it's not. It just looks risky.
- Robert Scoble
To those giving Scoble crap for being on FF, aren't you tired of that? You all have been doing that for at least a year. Enough. For us on FF, we'd love to see an interview, thanks.
- Eric @ CS Techcast
Paul, get well soon
- Shane
Well, I'm done for tonight. Thanks you Robert for the chat...
- Cjay
Good luck for the interview, Robert and thanks for the update. Hope Paul gets better soon.
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
Thanks everyone. I'm actually not "very sick" though, just "kind of sick" -- it's mostly messing up my sleep.
- Paul Buchheit
from iPhone
be well!
- Laura Norvig
Chicken soup - but stay away from those soul books ;) Hope you're up to speed soon, Paul.
- Micah Wittman
Looking at the time-scale, doesn't that actually answer the question? You don;t wait THAT long to deliver good news or to debunk a false rumour that killings your platform (well, Zucks platform).
- Jim Connolly
Paul - sorry to hear that! (it's 2:30 am here, I can empathize with your sleep problem)
- Susan Beebe
from BuddyFeed
Eric, sorry if it sounded like I was giving him crap. That wasn't my intention. I think Scobleizer has a serious career decision to make: http://ourdoings.com/ourdoin...
- Bruce Lewis
The problem i see is that social network cloud applications seem to live in peoples heads rent free.
- Cjay
Hope you feel better, Paul.
- Kol Tregaskes
That will be an interesting interview, thanks for posting this update.
- Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
Can't wait for the interview!! Thanks to you and Paul for keeping us updated!!
- Rosemary Sorg
:?
- CW™
Robert, you will never leave FriendFeed as long it is here:)
- Patrik Johansson
+1 Patrik
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Robert, do you think Twitter is too unreliable or do you think the competition is healthy?
- John Cass
Feel better soon, Paul!
- Ruchira S. Datta
The walrus has eaten the oysters: http://bit.ly/nJrdl
- Michael Slattery
win dinner with admiral adama | battlestar galactica | ugo.com #bsg - http://www.ugo.com/battles...
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- mike "glemak" dunn
from Bookmarklet
I need to send this to Susan Getgood
- John Cass
just got off the phone w @semanticwill and a long conversation on social search and enterprise social. a phone call's worth a 1000 tweets
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Word of Mouth is Still Sexier Than Social Media - http://www.themarketingspotblog.com/2009...
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Jay Ehret puts a wrap on Austin's Social Media Breakfast 10.
- Bryan Person
Nook Help and FAQs, eBook Reader, eBook Device - Barnes & Noble - http://www.barnesandnoble.com/nook...
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Compare Nook to the Kindle
- Bryan Person
RT @bestbizpractice: SBA Grants to Assist Micro Entrepreneurs.. http://twit.ac/pU6E.html >> Get you some.
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One thing that is VERY apparent now thanks to Twitter's lists is that Twitter is the #1 place for smart people to have a presence. By far.
Mitchell Tsai, Karthick R, Anne Carr and 13 other people liked this
Any news on when the rest of us are going to get lists, Robert?
- 1x29
Wait, I thought it was FriendFeed, Robert
- directeur
Sorry, FF is still far an above a much more intellectual space.
- Jimminy
Jimminy, same rules apply to Twitter as they do to FriendFeed: your experience is determined by who you follow. If you follow smart people on Twitter, you're likely to have a more interesting time there.
- Akiva Moskovitz
"I don’t know about you, but many emails and letters I get address me as “u” rather than “you”, and to me this seems not just a diminishment of me, but of language and thought itself." Quote from an analysis of Orwell and linguistics and a necessary function due to character limits on Twitter.
- Eric Logan
Yeah, you can just smell the intellect seeping out of Twitter. Akiva, Robert's comment was not about who you follow, but about Twitter.
- Glen Campbell, B.A.
Glen, really? Did Robert tell you this in confidence?
- Akiva Moskovitz
Twitter is the ghetto of internet communications.
- Internet's Tad
That would be YouTube, Tad.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Yeah... but as I found out by tracking the Twitter users that us the #TAD hashtag (referring to "Twitter After Dark") there is a huge population of not-so-bright folks on Twitter...
- Internet's Tad
I'm taking that one, Twitter is a crowded street filled with noise.
- Jimminy
Tad, true, but the more popular a place becomes, the more it becomes polluted with morons. Twitter's popular; FriendFeed's not. Also, FriendFeed's more 'difficult' to use so that automatically blocks out some people. It's the YouTube Principle: the commenters there are the biggest idiots on the Internet because all you need to do is sit there, watch TV, and then bitch about it. Of course the dumbest people are going to gravitate there. Twitter? 140 characters? Plus Oprah's on it? C'mon! It's party time.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Yeah - I will say that I follow a lot of smart folks on Twitter - it's not useless, but it's NOT a replacement for FF.
- Internet's Tad
Twitter can't be a replacement for FF, or email, or newsgroups, or forums, not the least of which is because of the content length limit and the lack of threading requiring you to follow a conversation in _reverse_ order, if it's followable at all.
- Andy Bakun
And, for the record, I don't think that Twitter is a replacement for FriendFeed.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Tad & Akiva - right!
- Susan Beebe
from BuddyFeed
I don't really get Robert's excitement for Twitter. Sure, they've made some progress, but it's still a pretty lame way to try to have conversations. I'd rather use Facebook to try to have some community than Twitter, but in both cases I feel like I'm communicating on Cretin-Net. Both target the Lowest Common Denominator. FF never did. sigh
- Internet's Tad
Personally, I think comparing Twitter and FriendFeed is like comparing Google and Wolfram|Alpha. Similar on the surface but different overall.
- Akiva Moskovitz
well I guess my days are numbered ... Im just a Dumbass Fireman ,,, was swell folks ,,,
- johnpiercy
The only good thing about Twitter is the great community of Graphic and Web Designers that I have found there. And other then a few other people Twitter is not a fantastic place to be.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
Some of these arguments seem to be grounded in the same kind of logic that would encourage someone to, say, stop buying a particular brand of paper towels because people at Wal-Mart also buy them.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Uh. Did I just accidentally equate Twitter to Wal-Mart? Yes. Yes, I did.
- Akiva Moskovitz
I like Twitter for Shaq's and shitmydadsays' tweets.
- Rodfather
I bet that in one year twitter and fb will look exactly like friendfeed now ;-)
- Stanislas Jourdan
I follow lots of intelligent folks, but it's difficult to "hear" them on Twitter (without a 3rd party UI.)
- Mark Jepsen
Having a Twitter and Facebook presence is now, unfortunately, almost a necessary condition for commercial life on the web. But it's not a sufficient condition. Twitter may reach some people, Facebook may reach others. But people go where their friends and content are (not where the ads are), and where there is structure for interacting easily. If FriendFeed doesn't survive, something will come along to fill the void.
- LogEx
I still look at all of this as socializing. I don't see my "presence" as "necessary" for my commercial success. For that I just get to work (which generally involves not opening Twitter or any other social networking site for the duration).
- Jason Wehmhoener
Right Jason. I'm just socializing too and not here for professional reasons. I'm just addressing Robert's affinity for services that help him professionally
- LogEx
LogEx, that's cool. I get awfully tired of people hand wringing about this sort of thing though. What works for Robert is probably not going to work for most people.
- Jason Wehmhoener
Robert ,you r right on the presence point,but you cant have a conversation there as you can do here
- Johni Fisher
Pfff, I guess yeah I guess cuz I'm on there, but I know you're referring to your bland social media cabal
- sofarsoShawn
if it wasn't for the snark of the Twitter Vs FriendFeed posts I'd have no entertainment #notpretty
- WarLord
Twitter might be the place for smart people to have a presence, but it seems to also be the place for stupid people to have a presence. ... Just because someone is smart doesn't mean that 90 percent of their posts aren't pictures of what they're eating (which you aren't) or out of context comments to other people like "I don't know, how about you?"
- SuezanneC Baskerville
Congrats @ jowyang for joining @charleneli >> Altimeter Group Creates a Bridge Between Businesses and Emerging Technologies | by @BrianSolis - http://www.briansolis.com/2009...
Roberto, John Cass, David Cook and 5 other people liked this
"Today, Owyang is officially announcing that he’s joining Charlene at Altimeter. However, he’s not alone in this endeavor. Deb Schultz and Ray Wang are also joining the Altimeter team. First, congratulations to everyone. We’re not only friends, we’re partners in the definition of the next landscape for communication, innovation, connectivity, and workflow. Charlene and team are capable of expanding into a national or even global force. Let’s talk a little bit about the Altimeter Group and its focus. The theme of the all star team is captured in the following statement, “The future of business requires a holistic approach to adapting and integrating emerging technologies.” Altimeter bridges the gap between emerging technology, proven solutions and the businesses who need them. According to Charlene Li, “Companies often implement technologies without a clear view of how they fit into and support corporate goals. They thus end up with a bunch of point solutions, but no strategy — and...
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- Susan Beebe
from Bookmarklet
Congrats!:)
- K.D.
It's great that @jowyang joined such a project. Trend-makers and strategists are the most necessary people in any activity. Congratulations to Jeremiah personally and to all of us too ))
- socimediator
TweetDeck: New Twitter AIR App With Summize Integration, Groups - http://www.louisgray.com/live...
Rob Michael (Atmos Trio), John Cass, Cris Pearson and 5 other people liked this
"TweetDeck offers four major columns in which to organize Twitter data: "All Tweets", essentially your friends' timeline, "Replies", showing replies to you, the equivalent of Twitter's replies tab, "Search", which will keep a running search window open for a term you've selected, and "Group", which lets you make a sub-set of those you follow on Twitter, and make a miniature timeline" [This seems like a hardcore Twitter tool. Lots of windows and activity. Seems to occupy an entire screen.]
- Bwana ☠
from Bookmarklet
"The recent strain at Twitter has resulted in the service reducing the number of API calls developers can make to get Twitter updates, and there, TweetDeck has you covered as well, so you learn if there's any slowness, where to lay the blame" [This alone has reduced my faith in Twitter apps to zero. The apps can only be as good as Twitter's API. It's current state is ridiculous. ]
- Bwana ☠
"While Jesse Stay and others have said Twitter's major issues have decimated the developer community's efforts around Twitter, there are still some looking to innovate, TweetDeck being a good example" [I hope for their sake that Twitter gets their act together. I would hate to see such an effort go to waste.]
- Bwana ☠
None of it will be wasted effort. Because a smart developer will see the larger vision of microblogging incl things like FF and identi.ca
- Tris Hussey
from twhirl
Bwana, I still think there will be innovation, I just know a lot of frustrated developers and it can't last long if it's taking time and effort. I was simply sharing some real life examples of developers leaving the platform because of this. Truthfully, I'm actually developing my own Twitter apps on the side - you better believe that the non-Twitter systems are on the back of my mind, and will be a backup though. I could pull away from Twitter at any time, and I'm sure they could as well.
- Jesse Stay
TweetDeck is the #1 trending topic on Summize. I love it. http://www.summize.com
- Louis Gray
Of course it is :) I'm only getting female replies. Naah ... must be me ...
- Charlie Anzman
Been using this a few minutes now - I like it a lot. I'm one of those people who subscribes to hundreds and hundreds of tweets -- more than I can possibly keep up with. I had a special, sooperseekrit account for following RL friends and other accounts for whom I didn't want to miss a tweet. This is a more elegant solution.
- Mitch Wagner
BUMP. Remember when TweetDeck was all brand new?
- Louis Gray
I think this was one of your first links to me, Louis - funny how things haven't changed though. :-)
- Jesse Stay
Wow, blast from the past... this is when I was using Feedly to annotate
- Bwana ☠
Why did Google announce Chrome OS this week? Well, of course, Microsoft has a big announcement coming on Monday (I'm embargoed).
Daniel Rowley, Bill Romanos, Charanjit and 217 other people liked this
It'll be interesting to discuss both announcements too, and what they mean for each other.
- Robert Scoble
Is this that internet clipboard that Ray Ozzie demoed a few years ago? Maybe they've completed it!
- Diego Barros
I hope to see something good come out of this. Are they saying free or paid for the Chrome OS?
- Anthony Timberlake
That's my Scoble - seeing things behind the things!
- Alex 'BuckyBit' Covic
*raises eyebrow* Interesting. I applaud more competition
- Mo Kargas
I'm intrigued!
- Daynah
Diego, no, it's one of Microsoft's primary businesses. Did you know Microsoft has 14 billion dollar businesses?
- Robert Scoble
Related to Microsoft's Gazelle browser? http://news.cnet.com/8301-13...
- Kiran Patchigolla
Windows 7 GPL 3.0 ?? Brouahahaa:-)
- Alex 'BuckyBit' Covic
Microsoft isn't doing too bad lately.
- Eric Florenzano
cool, im thinking its a special version of windows 7 for netbooks?
- sean percival
Anthony: I'm sure it will be free.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: I'm sure they do. As I'm sure IBM does. But I don't care about IBM. :)
- Diego Barros
BingOS?
- imabonehead
imabonehead :D
- Alex 'BuckyBit' Covic
imabonehead: no. :-) Microsoft isn't that disruptive.
- Robert Scoble
And that means Google Is doing well once again, doesn't it?
- Markingegno - Donato
from Android
The Chrome OS will be for netbooks and such for now. And is Microsoft announcing the Free One Care?
- Dylan Richardson
haha BingOS! I like it
- Diego Barros
Bingo yes :)
- Kiran Patchigolla
*chuckles at imabonehead*
- Daynah
LOL BingOS! The startup sound will be Ballmer saying "BING!" like he did at AllThingsD conference.
- Paul Salzman
Bing-OS was his name-o!
- Daynah
Bingos <--- that was his name-o
- Micah Wittman
GoogleOS is already out - "It's the browser" - the GNU/Linux/Ubuntu skin is just marketing...
- Alex 'BuckyBit' Covic
*high fives Daynah*
- Micah Wittman
An open source OS - how much stable will it be??
- Palak Mathur
Question is Robert, if you are not allowed to say, how on earth did Google find out?
- Sandra Large
Bingo-sssss
- Alex 'BuckyBit' Covic
Micah, we're on the same google brain wave tonight. :)
- Daynah
Palak - you troll
- Alex 'BuckyBit' Covic
Ride the wave :D
- Micah Wittman
Sandra: it might just be coincidence. Or maybe they have great spies. Depends on your view of the world, huh?
- Robert Scoble
Microsoft is open-sourcing their code too??? Yeah, didn't think so. :)
- Josh Fraser
Josh: part of the Microsoft announcement on Monday runs on Google Chrome (and Firefox for that matter).
- Robert Scoble
Not all "open-sourcing" is created equal.
- Micah Wittman
Maybe Microsoft is making it's secret announcement this week cause they knew Google was about to announce?
- Alan W Silberberg
Robert - say no more, don't get into trouble, Duder.
- Alex 'BuckyBit' Covic
Thats real funny Josh .. Its like pulling teeth to get them to give a discount on anything.
- Dylan Richardson
Alan: maybe! It all depends on how you look at the world, doesn't it?
- Robert Scoble
Nice Cant Wait!
- James Hunter
It just seems to coincidental. Like President of Iran making big speech during MJ's funeral!
- Alan W Silberberg
Scoble the only MS announcement they could make that would blow me away is Windows 7 Early release.
- Dylan Richardson
Dylan: Microsoft has a few other impressive things up its sleeve.
- Robert Scoble
So the question is now that Google's making an OS, will Eric Schmidt resign from Apple's Board?
- Paul Salzman
It's all just ones and zeros. ;)
- Victor Panlilio
So, do we give Calacanis credit for calling a Google OS back in 2006? http://calacanis.com/2006...
- Mike Doeff
Sanat: insightful. Paul: Google makes a smart phone OS, and he hasn't resigned, so why would he now?
- Robert Scoble
Zune HD. Looks nice for the first time ever I'm thinking about it.
- Dylan Richardson
Google is talking about it's goals at this point. Isn't Intel trying a netbook OS too that boots fast? It'll be interesting to see which OS features win out here with different implementations. Is instant on to the browser the key or will some other feature shine? Fun times ahead, though really need to see things in action.
- Loren Heiny
from iPhone
Dylan: sorry, that is dead on arrival. They should have combined Zune with a cell phone.
- Robert Scoble
I got a screen photo here: http://ff.im/4WoVE, I don't have much comments yet due 2 that I am using it now, its not much of an announcement.
- polou/indigo_bow
Robert, Zune with a phone hmmm??? I hope ur rite as u said ur embargoed!
- polou/indigo_bow
Gazelle?
- carrotmadman6
MS does not have the Balls to take on the iPhone.
- Dylan Richardson
Wait for Monday. Nothing else to say.
- Frédéric Sidler
from iPhone
Robert, because they claim to excuse him from the part of the meetings related to iPhone...computer OS is arguably the biggest segment of Apple. I guess he can stick around for the hardware discussions. I know my argument is elementary, but maybe walking a line here?
- Paul Salzman
What was the last big hit new MS product?
- James Watters
But if they did that would be cool competition is always better for the consumer.
- Dylan Richardson
James: Xbox? Dynamics? Bing?
- Robert Scoble
Apple is not really what I will be looking at Android is the big boy here
- polou/indigo_bow
MS Office on the browser would also explain why GMail and Google Apps are finally out of Beta today too.
- Ron Schott
Xbox
- polou/indigo_bow
OH OH Project Natal is coming out!! lol j/k
- Dylan Richardson
Robert: Thanks, wasn't hating, just looking for organic momentum from products. Bungie was def a godsend to 360. Bing proved Seth Godin wrong which I greatly enjoyed.
- James Watters
@Robert Scoble: So I looked up Microsoft's last quater's financial report, Microsoft does indeed have a $14 billion business :)
- Long Zheng
Bing is nice I have to say. Here is how I use it .. If I want to Buy or shop a price I use Bing. If I need info its Google.
- Dylan Richardson
MS better fix the %$^#%@^ Gumblar hole first, it's apparently worse than Conficker -- http://rixstep.com/2...
- Victor Panlilio
MS also has ~6+ B in R&D, is it efficient?
- James Watters
Not new news, but it could be the launch of Silverlight 3.0? Offline mode and all the other nice bits, runs on Chrome and Firefox.
- Travis Koger
from iPhone
Oh, really? When I get something on embargo...I don't write about getting it under embargo. Come on, Robert. You're better than that. Or at least I hope you are.
- Andrew Feinberg
I agree @travis, but google make it like a news
- polou/indigo_bow
James: it doesn't matter, a company like Microsoft needs a product pipeline to remain relevant. Research lets Microsoft remain relevant and on Monday you'll see a bit of how it does that.
- Robert Scoble
OK. Google Chrome OS. Netbook makers say Linux based Netbooks have high return rates. How will people react to a Netbook that only runs a browser? Linux has remained niche.
- Dileepa Prabhakar
Andrew: sometimes you have to take a risk. This is one of those times.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: I will look forward to it. We ALL win when great software comes to the market. Almost nothing better in the world.
- James Watters
14 billion, maybe Office that runs on Silverlight, therefore in the browser properly.
- Travis Koger
from iPhone
Do you all think GoogleOS will just boot up right into the browser? Browser will be in firmware?
- Paul Salzman
BTW, Robert, will Microsoft finally dump IE and develop a Webkit based browser? (Forget Gazelle. Yet another stupid Microsoft research project that will never successfully make it mainstream.)
- Dileepa Prabhakar
Paul: no highly unlikely.
- James Watters
Dileepa: I don't know the answer to that. But the demos on Monday (I have a bunch of video coming) were shown to me in Firefox. So maybe that's our answer right there.
- Robert Scoble
James: so you think it will sit on top of Linux or something? Or just be a new flavor of Linux?
- Paul Salzman
Linux flavor of Chrome, thus far not arrived yet
- polou/indigo_bow
Paul: I'd look at Android as a precursor and say yes its going to use a google refined linux kernel, and I believe the post even says a windowing system. I'll check TC again to be sure brb.
- James Watters
Paul: I bet there will be some customization of Linux underneath Google's Chrome OS. I'm intrigued and can't wait to see what they will do with it.
- Robert Scoble
Google says the software architecture will basically be the current Chrome browser running inside “a new windowing system on top of a Linux kernel.” (quoting TC)
- James Watters
I can almost bet that its web based Microsoft Office with some nifty real-time collaboration features.
- sameer
Sameer - I agree. Explains cross-browser compatability
- Daniel Lazarides
from iPhone
"a new windowing system" leaves the door open for a greater level of abstraction away from the kernel for sure. Probably still with some access to files, devices, etc on the local hardware though which a browser alone would be a clumsy solution too.
- James Watters
If Microsoft's BIG announcements are Web based Office (already demo'ed and announced), Windows Azure RTW (nothing unexpected) or Windows 7 RTM (already announced to be announced!), there is nothing that's going to surprise people on Monday then.
- Dileepa Prabhakar
I think Wave might be integrated into the OS.
- Jayasimhan Masilamani
Dileepa: Windows7i -- the Cloud OS from MS
- Paul Salzman
Jaya: Like as a built in extension to the windowing system? Like IE and explorer?
- James Watters
@Alex Will they be able to match Open Source strategies as followed by Ubuntu,etc??
- Palak Mathur
just another rehashed disaster of windows in another marketing created packing
- Zac Bowling
Dileepa - They haven't talked much about collaboration using Office web. There was one OneNote demo that showed some realtime synchronization. I'm thinking more Wave-like realtime features.
- sameer
Zac: I'm going to believe Robert, but lets give him hell if this is marketing glossy! :)
- James Watters
Paul Salzman: Windows 7i with WGA! -- works only when accessed through IE when running on a WGA validated copy of Windows.
- Dileepa Prabhakar
Dileepa: that's it, we've called it! ;)
- Paul Salzman
Robert you managed to convert a complete google night into a complete MS night :)
- Kiran Patchigolla
James: it's been a while since I've felt compelled to do more than five videos at a Microsoft press conference. See ya on Monday.
- Robert Scoble
sameer: That will be mimicking existing Google Docs feature. Google Wave is at a completely different level and I am not sure if Microsoft is up to doing something like that.
- Dileepa Prabhakar
Till Monday it is, I'm thinking I'll even blog it.
- James Watters
Wave might act as the collaboration platform on the OS. But that leads to another question. Will the OS be tied to Google accounts for login?
- Jayasimhan Masilamani
Dileepa: Let's see, I think there's potential for implementation of realtime collaboration across the web based and desktop offerings of Office that could be of big mainstream impact. It's got to be something related to Office, Robert talks about the "$14 billion business" - The only other Microsoft business I know of that's that big is Windows.
- sameer
sameer: I said that Microsoft has 14 billion dollar businesses. Plural, not singular, but I also said it was one of Microsoft's primary businesses. That narrows it down a bit, yes.
- Robert Scoble
My guess is a MS hardware that will shake the netbook market!!
- Krishnan Subramanian
So that's a Win7 RTM announcement, combined with Web Office. If Web Office will be free to use, the combination of W7 Starter with Web Office will be a huge notebook hit.
- Kirill Petrovsky
If ChromeOS was meant to counter MS, then the logical MS announcement would be some kind of OS project, like maybe a combination of Microsoft Singularity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... ) combined with Silverlight for NetBooks or mobiles.
- Ray Cromwell
MS Web Office for sure: Scoble said it runs on Chrome and Firefox and it's a multi billion business. Actually, MS Office accounted for 18-19B $ in 2008.
- Jérôme Flipo
I fear that if the tech side of their release if good (but whatever the pricing), Google Apps isn't ready for the fight.
- Jérôme Flipo
Microsoft announces the cloud OS? I'm still not sure about a Google OS though.
- Burcu Dogan
Web Office in Silverlight, together with a mobile version that means we get Silverlight on WinMo and maybe even IPhone would be a win for me
- Ian Blackburn
I cannot wait...:-) but I DO have a clue...
- Eric Denekamp
Lots of people suggesting Office-in-browser but if that were it why would Robert be under embargo given they've already announced it and demo'd it? I'm not saying it ISN'T Office-in-browser but if it is then something doesn't add up!
- Jamie
Good point Jamie - the two primary business in MS are Office and Windows (in terms of revenue anyway), so perhaps this is more to do with a Windows OS in the cloud? How would that look?
- Ian Blackburn
Midori perhaps? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Jamie
Initially, Google VS Live, Then Chrome Vs IE & Google Vs Bing, finally its Windows VS Chrome OS
- Michael_techie
Ummm... are they announcing an online version of MS Office like Google Docs?
- prolificdyslexic
that's why I do not subscribe to Scoble - too many comments on his articles, too much noise
- Павел Романовский
I don't see any noise in here. Interesting conversation!
- Robert Scoble
The MS guy at Portland Cloud Camp said Azure was going to be released very, very <wink, wink> soon. #cloudcampPDX
- Gary Walter (gwalter)
All google apps platform out of beta yesterday, now Chrome Os.. Is definitely the answer to Seven + Silverlight/OfficeOnLine Monday ;)
- Lucio Riccardi - CantorJF
from iPhone
@gwalter You’re maybe right. The front end would be MS Gazelle, and the back end would be Azure.
- Bram Pitoyo
Microsoft is finally putting the Zune out of it's (and out) misery and killing it? :)
- Diego Barros
Office Web Apps release to public beta is well overdue - first promised for end of 2008. If this is embargoed then it must involve something new. ScottGu hinted that Silverlight 4 was already in development. SL3 is released this Friday. So maybe SL4 will be released,in beta with a beta of Office Web Apps showing some SL4 features (like more AIR like features)..
- Joe Wood
It seems like "too late" and illogical for Microsoft to come-up with another vendor-lock-in type innovation and expect positive results. Microsoft is not run by daredevils nor wimps. The announcement Robert talking about might be about a web based productivity application suite, which is standards compliant and offers a familiar interface and workflow for people, thus easily adoptable and steal competitors' (G, Y!, Zoho, 37S, Adobe?, etc.) user base.
- Berk D. Demir
The thing thats got me shitting my pants over all this is Games. I need Windows to play all the latest Direct X 10 and 11 games. Linux is hopeless in that regard.
- Mark
Audience in here is mainly composed of technically inclined, early adopters. We feel comfortable with online apps and mainly ready to ditch (or already ditched) many offline applications in favor of our new toys. OTOH, that's a huge paradigm shift for the other majority of less technically inclined and incomparably bigger masses. Microsoft still have the power to lead masses, create...
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- Berk D. Demir
Interesting discussion! I vote for MS Office online !
- Krishnamoorthy
I commented in istartedsomething on Long Zheng theories with this list. so why not here after having read all of Scoble responses?: Safe Guesses (not crazy): 1.- Office Ensemble (Office Web Apps + Office Live Update) and a Office 2010 public CTP (the most likely one) 2.-Microsoft Online Services gets full release along with a full release of Windows Azure while one of the new Data...
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- Avatar X
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i crammed a lot of guesses that may not have to do with the announcement so maybe robert could say warm or hot to the whole list without having to specify. :P
- Avatar X
I vaguely recollect listening to the GIllmor Gang in June/July 2008 where Robert said he'd just visited Microsoft Research and seen "an amazing new browser". If memory serves me correctly it was said in the context of mobile devices but who knows.....this may be another contender for Monday's announcement!
- Jamie
Anything related to Midori ? http://technologizer.com/2008...
- Krishnamoorthy
Microsoft has already made their counter-move to a Google OS. It's called Windows Azure. It'll serve apps to the Google OS with ease and MS will make money in the process. Yeah, I know today the money be nowhere near what the Windows OS makes, but while the Google OS is gaining traction as a desktop OS, Azure will be gaining traction as an app hosting platform for that very same Google OS and others.
- Jeff Weber
More spam news will come in. Azure, Mirot ha ha ha
- Michael_techie
just another social network (where the IE users might hang out)
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Another huge innovation like renaming Bing?
- Burcu Dogan
Google is initially going after netbooks via a new OpenSource OS. If Microsoft's Next Big Thing is Azure then they are betting that a locked-in cloud-based OS will trump Google's move. It's gonna be VEHLEY INTELESTING to see this play out.
- J.D. Deutschendorf
launching online enabled MS Office, free and beta
- Павел Романовский
I really hope it's not anything Silverlight related, some one is on crack if they think the end game is everything running in a plugin in a browser.
- Scott Kahler
Tease. Tease. :)
- Charlie Anzman
Robert, they'd better have more than a few "14 billion dollar" businesses. Their market cap is 200 billion for heaven's sake.
- Stephen Pickering
sorry, have to ask. did it make you cry? :)
- dannysullivan
does this mean google=novell?
- Eran Even-Kesef
Made the news onto electricpig your announcement!
- Giraffes Up In The AIr
Dr. Schmidt HAS to resign from the Apple board... too many conflicts of interest (iPhone v Android, Chrome OS v OS X, Chrome v Safari). What could he possibly be adding that can't be obtained through someone else?
- Gerald Buckley
You are in Palo Alto? I am in Mendocino. :)
- Joe
pricing of Azure will definitily be one of the announcements; not the BIG one. Office online perhaps...
- Jeroen De Miranda
Very interesting indeed. Chrome OS sounds like a great companion to Windows on a netbook+ device, for those times when you do need instant web/email. Looking forward to your videos!
- Will Johnson
Since the event on monday is WPC I'm guessing that Steve Balmer will present MS view on future of the Enterprise and showing off some of what Ray Ozzie has been working on. Coming full circle with Azure (computing infrastructure), Mesh (powering collaboration), SilverLight (future of runtime enviroments on all platforms) and of course all of this software+services has to be powered by Windows Enterprise Servers on the back end.
- Daniel Chow
Also the new Office is the first application to launch under the above stack. Scoble, did I get anywhere close to any of the embargoed announcements? :)
- Daniel Chow
Robert - Was GLADoS based on you? ;)
- Matthew DeVries
What do you think? How long will the Apple-Google Friendship last? http://friendfeed.com/applero...
- Hans Kainz
They are going to announce the release of IE 9 - the even worse with net standards addition.
- Bobby Griffith
Windows 7 Home/Business/Ultimate Netbook Edition. Each with different capabilities and things disabled for no reason other than to confuse users and make more money.
- Scott Koon
heh - i know now what the announcement is and i am not embargoed - i should make a post :)
- Allen Stern
Go for it, Allen! Inquiring minds want to know!
- Rudy Amid
Well if you do know, you owe it to your readers to report the news,
- Mark
Mark - That's if you see tech journalists (which I don't think Robert even classifies himself as) as true hard hitting journalists (think woodward and burnstein, ed Murrow) or if you think of them in the vein of Sports writers. Sports writers, like tech writers, need to foster relationships and have their names known and have to cross closer into the friendzone to get us the day to day...
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- Matthew DeVries
Mark: sorry, I signed an embargo. That's the way these things go and I'm not willing to burn this relationship, sorry. You'll know on Monday. Matthew is exactly right. And even with Woodward and Burnstein, they played this game. You didn't know who Deep Throat was, even though that was news too.
- Robert Scoble
Not even going to go for the Deep Throat joke... I swear, I'm not going to... :p
- Bill Heslin
what announcement?
- kang
I didn't mean Robert should report it. I meant Allen Stern who commented he was not under an embargo. He knows it, he has no NDA, he should report it.
- Mark
RT Allen Stern "heh - i know now what the announcement is and i am not embargoed - i should make a post :)"
- Mark
I hope its not Gazelle. If it is I respect Robert for abiding by the embargo. It seems as though no one in tech abides by embargoes any more. If it is Gazelle, might as well discuss since it is all over the tech blogs already.
- Keith Beucler
As they keep it under the blanket till now! It should be software only thingy! speculations about xbox, zune phone etc are free to leave!
- Amir
It's not Gazelle. At least I don't think so, because I have no clue what Gazelle is. I'm off to find out.
- Robert Scoble
Ahh, nope, what I was thinking of is not Gazelle. But now that I see the rumors I wonder if Microsoft has more than one major announcement on Monday?
- Robert Scoble
My Guess: They enabled Live Mesh Web Desktop to run applications, So in future all applications are going to be hosted in Live Mesh
- Amir
maybe i want use chrome all day,,just for internet surfing
- qian
Hey Robert, on a scale of 1 to 10, with 1 being an announcement that version 8.1 of IE includes a better spell-checker, and 10 being that Windows 8 is coming out in 2010 and is free, how many out of 10 is the announcement going to be in terms of having an impact?
- Mark
btw I have had this single chrome window open for about a week, and because each tab has its own process I don't get memory leaks like with firefox.
- Mark
Does unmodded, unaddon'd firefox leak?
- Matthew DeVries
Not sure to be honest
- Mark
So there could be your difference.
- Matthew DeVries
Mark: that's hard to judge. I'd say 6.9 based on how you framed it.
- Robert Scoble
Is this something that will go over well on Wall Street?
- Michael Fidler
Well, today Microsoft announced the promotion of Steven Sinofsky to president of the Windows Division.
- imabonehead
Robert ur (face) a hit today in the news outlets: http://lifehacker.com/5310444...
- polou/indigo_bow
Sounds very interesting :)
- Sweetzspot
I hope Google comes up with a great OS. I have tried any different Linux versions on my netbook but have never found the perfect one. Looks like they have connected the right partners as well so I am very excited. 9 0ut 10 for me. This could change everything
- Asgeir
TechCrunch on Scoblelizer's drumroll: "Office In Cloud Comes Monday" http://bit.ly/18sKUe
- JimmyJet
it will be a sigh of release for people come to fear those massive, massive office purchase/downloads. still a pain for when you travel and have no access online though...
- Terry O'Fee
While Google's forays in the OS and office productivity arenas are great for consumer choice, are they playing w/ fire? Google's core revenue stream is search, which has a much lower switching cost than any of MS's multiple revenue streams: Client, Office, Server. It seems like the two are pitching for a protracted fight that could be costly to both. But in a battle of attrition, it seems to me that Google could lose $ faster than MS.
- lingb
Windows ME Ultimate?
- Michael Funk
Well, it's Monday, what is the announcement about?
- SuezanneC Baskerville
MS is making Office apps online. Ala google apps. Boring.
- Rudy Amid
How to Mine Twitter for Information - http://webworkerdaily.com/2009...
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- mjc
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Dan did you see my critique of the cluetrain from last year? http://is.gd/4qL
- John Cass
Some of you need followers to get people to engage on your thoughts. Beg for followers here and explain WHY we should follow:
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I'm @scobleizer and you should follow me if you want tons of interesting tech news. I watch thousands of friendfeeders and Twitterers and am always looking for the most interesting stuff before @techmeme gets it. (UPDATE: I AM FOLLOWING EVERYONE ON THIS THREAD)
- Robert Scoble
Isn't a better way to get followers by engaging on their thoughts and getting attention through engagement? I NEVER follow anyone who begs the way you describe.
- Ken Camp
That's an example of what I'd like you to do. I will follow anyone who answers on this thread.
- Robert Scoble
Well because we cannot compete with Scobleizer...and we are desperate for a following to launch our own blogs. :-)
- Tarun Chachra
Ken: the problem is that on friendfeed and Twitter you need some seed followers.
- Robert Scoble
I agree with Ken - I make a point of not following people who ask for followers (and ESPECIALLY not if they call themselves "social media experts" or "SEO experts"... retch)
- Chris Taylor
I'm not sure about begging but it's difficult, especially when you're overwhelmed by inspiration about what you're working, to feel like you're not connecting with enough people. Then again, I don't want a bunch of robo-followers, but people who I can engage and engage with me. Twitter is weird.
- Remote Revolution
@Chris, you should follow Mike Nayyar then: http://beta.friendfeed.com/mikenay...
- Daniel J. Pritchett
A friend of mine joined Twitter a month ago and he already has more Followers then I gathered in two years!! Please Help! thank-you very much @moon http://twitter.com/moon
- paul mooney
Hmm, I thought who you followed was more important....
- Scott Breakall
I guess getting on with some friends on Twitter is most important. They already know people. This adds to better quality content as opposed to just random following people which most of the time creates noise. I however love it that @scobleizer creates is great in creating a stage for interesting people :)
- Michiel Sikkes
I personally don't need THAT much but I desperately need FOLLOWERS for XDBE project, to spread the idea behind it! To bring the Internet to the next level together! Global Social Graphing http://xdbe.com/faq/
- Elmira Gazizova
If you don't follow me my gf will lock me in the basement without food and water.
- rob
Only follow me if you like tech AND religion . A dangerous combination!
- Dan Walters
begging is annoying. I guess you have to engage by following and slowly build an audience. A lot of my followers ( though not much ) has been by engaging on other tweets etc . Good use of hashtags doesnt hurt either
- Kashif Khan
I rarely have anything to say myself that doesn't require engaging in conversations with others, so I don't want ANY followers. I follow those who I believe I may want to engage in conversation with, or those whom I desire to know more about.
- Larry
@jpelegrin. When I do say something on Twitter, it's usually very insightful. O.K., not really, but I need some peeps. This is embarrassing!
- Jeremy Pelegrin
i ain't going to beg, but i will make a note that those interested in computers, programming, science, and humor might find FriendFeed just a little bit more enjoyable if you follow me.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
Breakall: It's a moving target. Whatever serves the purpose of the conversation at hand. For the real story: most ppl care, including Scoble.
- coldbrew
you should follow @unmarketing cause I sang about Scoble http://www.ReTweetMeVideo.com
- Scott Stratten
I agree you need seed followers. I just think the way to gain them is by engaging people who interest you. Be proactive. To me,this approach sounds, not disengaged, but not terribly engaging or proactive. I realize I'm an engagement fanatic, but if someone wants me to follow, a witty response to something I've said will lure me in, especially if there's an interesting interchange. Someone who follows me and has a post like you describe, I simply ignore (or block if appropriate for me).
- Ken Camp
Hmm, you should follow me if you'd like to keep a pulse on grassroots tech organizing going on locally to nationally, and because I'm looking for more #scifi fans to chat with. (@deannecuellar)
- DeAnne Cuellar
Quite simply this is all an exchange of ideas, thoughts and information. I want to follow and be followed by those whom I can learn from, as well as to receive input/advice/insight from.
- Ted Bradford II
I'm actually culling what few followers I do have to get to a conversation that makes sense for our "marketing" business. Um, yea, guess that's not a "pitch".
- Glen Group
Ken: this is my way of finding interesting new people to follow who I might otherwise not know about. Also, anyone who answers here IS engaging.
- Robert Scoble
you should only follow me if you like Star Wars, baby photos, web design, gadgets, random weirdness, memes, and music that makes you nod your head to the beat
- Nathan Chase
@coldbrew You're exactly right, they do care. Just a little reminder of advice that's come before when OTHERS were trying to ratchet up the follower numbers. /cold brew coffee rawks
- Scott Breakall
follow me, because i would get more active with more followers. :)
- Alexander Rode
I try to be interesting, but really we are starting 2 new businesses here and I could use as many followers as possible. And I follow back.
- Audrey
Nathan: if anyone ANDs that list you won't get any followers! I choose to OR it and am now following.
- Chris Taylor
@Wordful: [I'm not above begging, so please oh please follow me.] Follow me because I'm someone who can help you understand and implement an editorial strategy on your blog. I'm also a no-BS deep thinker who doesn't like to conform.
- Charles
You can follow me - @michiels on twitter - if you're interested on how a European internet startup works and what differences there are with for example SV startups. Also how Dutch schools combine entrepreneurship and studying.
- Michiel Sikkes
if the follow isn't two-way, well it's not much of a conversation is it?
- Sean O'Brien
@Alexander, sounds like chicken and egg problem. Do the followers come before the comments and content or after? :)
- Paul Wade
The problem here on FF is that the majority of potential subscribers are in the USA so the site is most active when I'm in bed here in the UK! I think the key to getting subscribers is to engage with others' content and make sure you share interesting things yourself. That way you become a 'valued' member of the community. You have to put some 'work' in though.
- Martin Bryant
I'm an average, non-techy person.
- Katie: Witch Of The West
so are we begging you? watch for awhile and see if you like :) @rveep
- reed price
Thomas Hawk follows me and since you don't you obviously are behind the times :)
- Kevin Kuphal
Nathan: I "AND" the list, and followed.
- Larry
Getting that starting mass is an absolute nightmare. I think i hace about 9 followers and all but 4 of those are spammers. I haven't been that prolific so far but i'm trying and will hopefully trigger some interesting thoughts in your head
- Jamie Vidamour
Rather than begging for followers, I'd like to tell you all how I've learned to use Twitter to engage like minded aviation related folks in a time when my industry (business aviation) is under fire from all sides. Twitter has allowed me to build meaningful relationships with those that write about and/or care about the future of our industry. Follow @BizAv if you're interested in joining the conversation or check out http://tinyurl.com/GJetTwitter for other business aviation related Twitters.
- Mike Mikolay
I've actually noticed I've had a few more followers lately than I've had before. Hopefully they're getting some interesting tidbits from me.
- Paul Wade
audrey, i personally believe in quality over quantity. one needs numbers of course to get the message out (when you aren't giving of course. i.e., signal to noise) but I find no benefit in having 5000 followers if 4000 of them have nothing in common with me/my business/my interests etc.
- Ted Bradford II
@Chris - right, it was a little tounge-in-cheek, but that's the majority of subject matter you'll see crawl across my feed
- Nathan Chase
I don't beg for followers. If you want to follow there is a 98% chance I will follow back. I like to think I bring interesting news to the table.
- John Flynn
The whole idea of "followers" plays to our inherent need of not being alone or feeling important. Gaining followers is like gaining money. You find the excitement of gaining followers and once you are loaded with "followers" so what? It doesn't make you happier, doesn't make you more successful. What's 25 thousand followers if your conversation on twitter is about how many beers you are drinking on happy hour? I find that people who are very zealous about gaining followers have EMPTY conversations.
- Bo Lora
You should follow @jeremybogdan for thoughts on the latest gaming and tech/social media news, in addition to updates on the gaming podcast I run and daily observations. I think that wraps things up in a nice package, but honestly, I enjoy the conversations most. Really more "followers" would just make it possible to carry on conversation and meet people I might have never been able to talk to/meet otherwise.
- Jack Bogdan
Beg for followers, Robert? :(
- Mona Nomura
Every so often, the world changes, sometimes quickly,sometimes very slowly but sometimes unnoticeably fast. Change is constant and constantly changing. There is no timetable and you cannot predict or trend the unknown but you can change with it as quickly as it evolves. That's what my blog is about..its located at http://newnewstory.blogspot.com
- Iggy Kin
Ok...so I'm here and I absolutely want people to follow me, but why should I have to beg to be followed? I'm doing great work, just like the interview I did with you Robert, and have other cool guests slated to join me. Begging makes me feel dirty somehow. I'd rather have followers slowly work their way into my life than to have them show up en masse one day simply because I begged here. I'm with my pard. Ken. Begging? DO NOT LIKE.
- Sheryl
Mona: I'm looking for new people to follow and there's a lot of newbies here, so figured I'd help.
- Robert Scoble
I'll do it! I provide a weekly podcast for IT pros which provides interviews, views, and tech tips. You can listen to it here even. I also post self amusing thoughts and comments that are only funny and witty to me. Follow me and have a richer life :) If you are interesting I'll find you here too.
- Eric @ CS Techcast
After helping @scobleizer find a bike, Google thinks I pose "a significant risk to our AdWords advertisers": http://bit.ly/177PTK #TrueStory
- Walt Ruppar
I'm John Wright and I'm building web applications under the name Wright Labs (@wrightlabs). You should follow me if you want to be the first to know about new apps I've built or updates to existing ones.
- John Wright
Read 'Beg for followers' as 'Market yourself'.
- Kiran Patchigolla
Sheryl: sometimes you have to promote yourself. I used the word "beg" to get a conversation going.
- Robert Scoble
Kiran: right.
- Robert Scoble
If I'm followed by those who follow in huge numbers(e.g. @scobleizer), I'd like to be included in one of their "special" friend list or filter. It sucks to have your voice drowned out by the masses. I guess there's always DM. But that works only if the recipient is following you. OK, just follow me already :)
- Edmund Tay
I've already tried to get my current high profile followers engaged in a conversation here: http://friendfeed.com/shaynor... with my GAME which was actually going to provide a fun way for me to gather some usage data to elaborate on a point for further discussion here.....NO COMMENTS from my FF peeps!!!!!
- shayne catrett
also this can relate to the fresh blood tech bloggers discussion a while back
- Kashif Khan
I am @harscoat and this is a test ;) on the Scoble power!! - I am on friendfeed thanks to him to be honest and thanks to friendfeed & Brett Taylor feed I discovered SANTIGOLD (Lights Out in particular) and in the end this feed/twitter thing and collaboration led to value for my ears :) so this feed thing works for me
- Harscoat
Follow me because I'm just too awesome! :P But, in all seriousness if people think I'm interesting then they should follow me. I'm not going to beg for followers. They have to decide on their own if they want to follow me or not.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
I get followers when they see me post on topics they search for; I get the most interaction that way too. So maybe if one wants more followers, one should talk about stuff people care about :-) Other than that sometimes folks I actually know comment on my tweets.
- Emil Sit
Follow me for the occasional humorous comment and pretty photo. And maybe because you got curious, looked at my profile, and figured that, yeah, I'd like to follow that guy. (And I'll do the same for you.) PS: Nice way to kickstart newbies like me into following others.
- Andy Bold
Robert - promoting and begging strike me differently. VERY differently. Promoting myself is easy. I think I'm a fabulous podcaster, fabulous interviewer. I Would LIKE to interview YOU again and want you to let me know when you have something really cool to talk to about, ie Building 43. That's self promotion. Are you buying it? :)
- Sheryl
PLEASE follow me. My mom is the only one commenting on my stuff and it's making me look like a dweeb.
- Christina Henderson
Sheryl: I was already following you! :-)
- Robert Scoble
@chrisquick LOL, that made me laugh.
- Paul Wade
lol Christina. On another note, do not follow me, I cannot handle the responsibility.
- Christian Collins
Wow this feed has just started and already produced a wide variety of comments. Desperate for followers or power of FriendFeed ;-)
- Michiel Sikkes
Me @smohkim.. why? just to get a bit more than just regular tech news
- Sardar Mohkim Khan
I'm pretty new to FF, so I'm not sure my content is worth following. But I'm trying to learn socmedia while working on video game news at gamingangels.com. So, yeah. :)
- Elizabeth Parmeter
Yes Robert didn't mean beg literally, follow his example which is his first comment. He's really asking a for a concise answer to the question "Why should we follow you?"
- John Wright
I want people who are worth following back. I really could use some interesting thought provoking input.
- Mary Wehrle
Speaking of follower numbers, what's the minimum to shoot for before decent engagement can start to happen?
- Edmund Tay
Edmund: four.
- Robert Scoble
Robert you make me LAUGH! WTG! And to all my NEW followers, thanks :-)
- Sheryl
I follow back on Twitter @nencetti - to get followers I follow people and wait. (i guess that is sorta begging) to lose followers i tweet too much. I am starting to use FriendFeed, it grows on you, like a fungus...
- Mike Nencetti
Ha, funny Christina! I just jumped into the follow-a-thon here. I want everyone here to follow me because I want to learn from you and hope I share some knowledge to enlighten you some day :-)
- Jason Cronkhite
Robert: Is that based on the assumption that all 4 followers share a common interest in what you have to say or share?
- Edmund Tay
Edmund: yeah. But all you really need is one with other followers who also like what you have to say. The second I post a comment or "like" one of your items it gets shown to thousands of people.
- Robert Scoble
Please, please, please. Why? Because I'm begging.
- Willem (@wim66) ☠
I do hope we can get you along to a #tuttle the next time your in London. In the mean time feel free to follow me @robocallaghan
- Robert O'Callaghan
Robert: I'll be in London in early July!
- Robert Scoble
Willem: you link to cool applications. You should have both begged and explained that.
- Robert Scoble
Wow, that is fast!
- Willem (@wim66) ☠
Take a look at my current FF homepage and if any of the entries engage you on an emotional or intellectual level, then follow!
- Sam Grover
i am begging for followers here for two reasons. 1) my money was wasted in trying to get 19,000 followers in five days and the free snuggie 2) If I get each of my followers to donate one dime to me, i can easily afford the big green hands like scoble has, then EVERYONE would follow me.
- Ted Bradford II
You're already following me Robert - please, only follow me if you want good content. That's the secret to gaining quality followers. I do like to follow others with good content though.
- Jesse Stay
I started with this social networking thing because I miss discussions with fellow scientist when I was one. Not all conversations here are so "eggheaded" but engaging. With more followers I could start more conversations.
- Robert Hafer
samgrover anyone who puts Upcoming.org geeky events in here is good enough for me (like you do).
- Robert Scoble
I see this as a community service thread - no problemo rs :)
- mike "glemak" dunn
i lack focus. my links lack focus. i am the hybrid vigour in your friendlist.
- dromologue
No begging. Look at my feed and subscribe if you like it. It's a mixed bag of tech, marketing, politics, business, food and humor. http://beta.friendfeed.com/ajkohn
- AJ Kohn
Jesse: actually I've gotten quite a few good quality followers by doing crappy content. It's true. The stuff I think is good quality content often doesn't get people to follow, even the smart ones. Of course I learned that by using your tool! :-)
- Robert Scoble
dromologue: you linked to treehugger.com. You can't be half bad.
- Robert Scoble
i am in the same boat. I would love to have followers but i don't have time to focus in on one topic.
- Zach Scott
You should follow me because I enjoy peanut butter and jelly sandwiches http://preview.tinyurl.com/dxvejm
- Jon
Jon: my brother will probably enjoy talking to you then!
- Robert Scoble
I probably wont ever beat you or @techmeme. I'm a pretty nice guy though. Plus, I promise to only post a few pictures of cats a month- none of which with be tagged with Obama!
- metalerik
U will be giving us "lurkers" a voice.
- Frank Sant'Agata
You SHOULDN'T follow me (@supermoose37) because I don't want you to. Anyone currently following me, should stop right now. Follow me, and you'll regret it.
- Marcus Beagley
I can't imagine being interesting enough to follow.
- Peter Kruit
metalerik: I liked the Google Mars images you had up.
- Robert Scoble
Ooos, I forgot to beg and give a reason why I'm begging. So here goes: Follow me because I try to post and share items that I think will be of interest to some if not all of my followers. That and I will also follow you back :)
- Edmund Tay
Probably shouldn't follow me ... [ http://bit.ly/a8eqT ]
- Craig Brownell
Peter: you are running the iPhone 3.0 beta. That makes you interesting, didn't you know?
- Robert Scoble
Usually I'll browse the other FF'ers shares and discussions to get a feel for that person's share/insights. I tend to follow people who have an equal number of interesting ORIGINAL items/posts rather than just retweets/reshares. I admit, I'm one of those people who doesn't get a lot of Likes *sad* or Comments
- Glenn Batuyong
PBJ is pretty compelling, and dromlogue's hybrid vigor comment cracked me up. This thread is making me laugh, and keeping me busy!
- Kathy Fitch
I like pictures and stylish things and these you will find in my feed. I usually follow back and I comment too (I know!), especially if I don't have to be serious about it.
- Mark H
Follow @frodeste for tweets on tech, crm, project management and life :)
- Frode Stenstrøm
FF and others have given me the opportunity to engage with people from all over the world from my quaint little town
- Steve
Follow @keithbarrett - I've been in IT for 30 yrs and am just as excited by the possibilities today. I've been involved in all aspects of applying technology to business from software coding to infrastructure design/support. Past employers include DEC, IBM, Red Hat & Disney. Living though the computer->Internet->Social Media changes helps me see a bigger picture of how we got here & where we might go. Like @scobleizer I read TONs of news regularly and share the more interesting bits when he's late :)
- Keith Barrett
Robert: Ideally I like to do at least one of those a week :)
- Sam Grover
Steve: what little town? Update: looks like it's Billings Montana, right? Love that town!
- Robert Scoble
Robert: Good point.
- Peter Kruit
Lyons CO
- Steve
And for those that don't get it - Robert is creating significant content about the people he is engaging. This makes you more than a number or a bio. I should have said follow me because I'm not an SEO or marketer :)
- Keith Barrett
Well, boo. Why isn't the pop out page working for me?
- Kathy Fitch
Ah, there it went. Better!
- Kathy Fitch
Kathy: friendfeed is behaving a little slowly for me right now. I think they might be pushing out new code.
- Robert Scoble
Must be it, Robert--I like the fast and furious view best!
- Kathy Fitch
great exercise bro! and illustrates why i am selective about who I follow and who is allowed to follow.
- Ted Bradford II
please follow me, please please please
- Adrian
Makes sense for me to comment here, so that I can get Robert's attention when I need it in future. Plus I follow him anyway.
- Ashish Rangole
Adrian: I'm already following you. :-)
- Robert Scoble
I'm @thepuck. You should follow me for a mix of tech news, stuff on coding, social media, and writing, plus whatever fun stuff catches my fancy. I sift through tons of content each day and share and publicize the best of it (IMHO). I also have lots of awesome friends who you can meet through me. Thanks for the opportunity, Robert!
- Neal Jansons
You should follow me if you want to live a truly boring life vicariously thru me. :D Serious;y, I am the worlds most boring tech enthusiast.
- Tendonitis' Bitch
Robert: What are you favorite filters these days? :/
- Christian Collins
OK, on a more serious note, you should follow me (@supermoose37) if you are a fan of either "Transformers" OR "Doctor Who"
- Marcus Beagley
Christian: I have a filter that shows me all items with one like. That's my most used one.
- Robert Scoble
I won't beg for followers but if you are interested in social media, security technology, networking technology, politics, or economics I'm sure we would have alot to share together. I'm on twitter as @tsudo but prefer conversations on Friendfeed.
- Keith - @tsudo
Robert: Sounds like a fire hose!
- Christian Collins
Marcus--How about VR-5? Anyone remember that one?
- Kathy Fitch
When I'm not trying to corral my 2 little boys (4 & 1) I hop on FF to keep my sanity!!
- Kevin Whalen
Christian: it's not that bad, actually. I am building more and more filters, though, on companies in tech industry and terms I see get popular here.
- Robert Scoble
You should follow me because I know where the main cable is for the whole internet and have a saw. I also adore tech, don't own an iphone but would like a Segway. Hopefully enough said :)
- tech pops
If you don't follow me, how else are you going to know which Air Force 1's I like the best? This knowledge could come in handy in the future, you never know.
- Richard Lawler
"I also have lots of awesome friends who you can meet through me." - Gee I'd like to be able to say that someday! Can I meet some? :-)
- Keith Barrett
Okey doke--now following tech pops, strictly for self-preservation, dontcha know.
- Kathy Fitch
Kathy: Sorry, the only thing I watched with VR in the title was "VR Troopers"
- Marcus Beagley
I'm kuckoo for Co-co Puffs and have a few screws loose, so sort of like that box of chocolates: you just never know what you're gonna get tweet-wise (@tweric) or ff-wise. But, man, do I spell good.
- Eric Matas
I noticed some people are actually recommending people in this thread to follow. There's a room you can do that ;) http://beta.friendfeed.com/ff-subs... Although if you want to follow me - feel free I follow 11.6k people and have a river of noise following through constantly so I can find the latest goings on ;)
- Nicholas James
Sigh, it's hell being old. I also loved that short-lived horror dealie, "The Others" I have a tendency only to watch tv that all others apparently (and oh so wrongly) hate.
- Kathy Fitch
DeAnne: I'm following, though for the #nptech, alas not for the scifi!
- Eric Johnson
Follow me because I just came back to FF from a social media vacation, and I have just had time to read some really good (dead wood) media I want to put to good use in future comments and posts:)
- Thomas Bøhm
Robert, point well taken - I guess I'm still trying to figure out why I have gotten the followers I have then. I don't think I've ever begged for followers. Maybe my content is crappy? ;-) I guess most of my audience is probably SocialToo users, which may have something to do with it.
- Jesse Stay
Now I'm wishing it wouldn't default to top of page after every follow. How spoiled am I?
- Kathy Fitch
My little brother just signed up for Twitter (http://twitter.com/aaronmatas) and I'd love for legions of people to follow him just to scare the sh*# out of him...by showing him the POWER of the social web. Bru-ha-ha-ha-haaa. Oh yeah, he's a TV sports journalist, so he kinda needs to know. Thanks -- please tell others!
- Eric Matas
Follow me for tech info related to graphics, web programming, browsers, iPhones, and natural language processing. And, maybe I'll fill you in on my next big project :-)
- Charles Ying
Charles: your page is the most interesting I've seen yet (to me).
- Robert Scoble
Follow me for site feedback ideas (and thoughts about UI in general), programing advice (to come), an introduction to the game of Go (to come, in a separate feed), (re)shares of interesting and/or depressing political blog articles (note: I brand myself "moderate socialist" policitally, though I'm assuredly not opposed to meritocracy), and random philosophical musings.
- Karl Knechtel
Well, my knee-jerk reaction to "beg" lingo notwithstanding (you'd think my knee would learn to behave after all this time), this is a fun follow party. I'll be back later to see who I missed. (Because, here, you *can* come back later, which is awfully nice.)
- Kathy Fitch
Oh yeah also, you should follow me because I'm an application developer and ultimately I want to build what YOU want and what YOU will use. (and I need your feedback to do that :) )
- John Wright
Because I just started FF when the beta came, and needs a kick to get started :)
- Erik Gulliksen
I like to express and pass on info about: Tech, Flyfishing, Architecture and remodeling construction. I am a freelance Architect Draftsman in Wisconsin.
- Frank Sant'Agata
Robert: thanks!
- Charles Ying
I'm IT hitman working in The Bahamas. I tend to follow Foreign Policy/Defense Blogs and dabble in political satire.
- Adi
Frank: What areas of Tech do you tend to talk about most? Do you photograph Architecture too? You need some feeds into your FF my friend.
- Paul Wade
Though I don't post a lot of native FF entries, I like likes and comments as a way of filtering stuff. I'll share with you; you share with me. And I love FF's real time features, particularly when combined with live video.
- Tom Landini
I have a hard time begging for anything :-)
- Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
Thanks Paul I will update, I just stated FF
- Frank Sant'Agata
weedmonk: Wait, you're a hitman?
- Paul Wade
Ah, I'm a mom, so I'm used to the wide-eyed beg. Dogs and kids--there's some real smarts there that we could all learn from. Besides, this whole thread made me laugh out loud right at my keyboard more than I have in a long while.
- Kathy Fitch
beg is an odd thing. Yes - I want followers - not for the sense of feeling oddly popular - but like @scobleizer I like being able to search through massive amounts of data that users create, and without followers, i'm limited.
- Courtney Engle
<--cracking up. This couldn't possibly have been a less subjugating experience for anyone. The "beg" term got hackles up, but also grabbed perfect gobs of attention, so there you go. It's a fun and funny thing, and my bberry, for one, is all abuzz about it! (Humming a Temptations tune and smiling, here.)
- Kathy Fitch
Wow, amazed at the semantics debate over "beg". Report just in... all net oriented sarcasm/tongue-in-cheek/parody must come with obligatory semi-colon parenthesis to indicate jest (even if to a minor degree). ;-) Would much appreciate the follow Robert, I always enjoy your posts. As a consultant I work on finding simple solutions to complex problems... my tweets are all over the place.
- SAM
I have about 280 "hand picked" followers. That might not be all that impressive, but I have a quality stream at least.
- Rutger Blom
Rutger: I find that the best quality you can get is to stick to under 200 people you're following. I do that with Friendfeed's lists.
- Robert Scoble
Back so soon :-) The London #tuttle is on a friday at the moment 10-12 at the ica in London.
- Robert O'Callaghan
Because I only joined Ff because of Scobelizer, therefore he should have to watch me flounder around trying to do something unique.
- Gregg Le Blanc
1up Scott, Begging has the well deserved connotation of supplication. Hence, the semantics. I would like to find more people that are interested in the Semantic web. Wordpress hacks and plug-in development, Designers, Coders, Innovators that need Beta testers. Companies with products that I may be interested in. My interest's are becoming more diverse as a result of my participation here. TY
- Eric Logan
I talk about library stuff, volunteer and service stuff, social media stuff, and Drupal as a versatile platform. If you're interested in any of that, you'll be interested in me. I also like food and kids.
- Laura Norvig
I am sort of feeling like Oliver asking for more gruel, May I please have more followers sir, I promise if your not educated at least you will be entertained and amused.
- Kim Landwehr
Well, sure, but I'm thinking back to the days when the listserv was a main mode of discussion. The subscribers were a kind of built in audience that posters to the lists didn't really have to fight for (though list founders had some work to do)--the challenge (and the fun) was in engaging people *despite* not having a handpicked audience. Some self-selection because of list themes, of course, but the audience was there, and anyone could join. Some of the best discussions actually flowed from difference.
- Kathy Fitch
Because I want to become more involved and participate as a connector.
- Trish Ridgway
just need followers
- Bill Majkowski
Bill: followers are overrated. But I'm following you now.
- Robert Scoble
Are you testing whether there's a limit to the number of comments in FF? ;)
- Janek Mann
I'm trying to straddle journalism, tech and sports all at once (can you straddle three things, by the way?). Looking for ideas and feedback ... @jondenunzio
- Jon DeNunzio
Forget followers, I would like just ONE comment on my FF! (BTW, your already following me Robert)
- David
I have nothing for you to read of any importance just random thoughts.LOl just wanted to throw my two cents in for what it is worth.
- stan fogo
Follow me if you like games and insights about game studies. I'm a game designer studying how to use game design to improve the experience of web applications. @kurai
- Kurai (ff)
Not sure there are any limits on number of comments in a thread. Ffundercats used Friendfeed as live chat while recording an episode and got over 1500 http://beta.friendfeed.com/ffunder...
- Tom Landini
David - you should import more things then just Twitter then ;)
- Nicholas James
I drink http://friendfeed.com/public for dinner.
- Steve "Daddy do it!" Lacy
Best advice to those perusing this thread who are new to FriendFeed? Follow these folks: http://ffholic.com/Users...
- Nathan Chase
Oh, and today's my birthday, so follow me!
- Steve "Daddy do it!" Lacy
Someone should follow because of an affinity for either the subject matter, interests, or attitude someone else shows in other comments. I don't see it as a need, so much as a desire for company, interested in similar pursuits but different viewpoints and perspectives to contribute. I have been in tech for 30 plus years, yet have published my poems & fiction for just as long. I always have an articulate opinion and love to chat. I don't have as much time as I'd like 2 come to FF to engage with others.
- Phil Boiarski
My views are different than everyone else’s, that is the only good reason to follow anyone at all.
- John D Reasor
Another good reason to follow me: I don't use Facebook. How 'bout that?
- Steve "Daddy do it!" Lacy
Hi, i'm a french student in management. I'm mostly interested in IT, media, newspaper crisis and other stuffs (sometimes in french :s). I intend to be more and more active on FF in the future, so one day to another, you might have to follow me. Why wait ? :P
- Stanislas Jourdan
Interesting. I'm not sure that I'm a high contributor. I follow to feed on information. In doing so, I find people to engage.
- Valley
OK, I'm throwing my hat in. I've started contributing by linking all my accounts, and finally having a reason to use the share feature of Google Reader. It's awesome to add my voice to the conversation. But after a while, when none of my posts get any likes or comments, it can feel like you have to be super popular to get in on this. I'm a relatively new user, but it would be nice to have a few more followers at least.
- Matthew
beg? seriously? I'd rather not engage people If it requires begging. Well I see you used "beg" to spur engagement.. But I still don't like the word even if it resulted in the desired effect. I guess I'm just not that desirous of conversation simply for the sake of it but rather to expand my thought processes and to alleviate my biases
- Bill Rawlinson
Cuz I'm the last and newest person to post a comment here. Bananers.
- Harry Wolff
I tell it as it is. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
This reminds me of back when torrents first came out and I'd post stuff to see if anyone would download it. We're throwing stuff at the wall and seeing if any sticks. Friendfeed is a useful addiction.
- Matthew
LOL! Amazing how many people take offense to the words "beg" and "need" -I "need" more people to engage my thoughts. (What a great way of putting that) It would be nice if more people would see the things I post and comment on so that I would get out more from this little (but expanding) corner of FriendFeed. I have plenty to say, but only a handful of active people to critique it. Tech, SM, Dogs, humor. #funhashtags. Please help Robert, Louis and Jesse take a break from me ;) Introduce me to your friends!
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
I am far less interesting than @scobleizer... I am an early adopter with a private-beta-testing-program addiction. I offer loads of insight to developers, designers (and users at large alike) on this new stuff. I'm the one you want testing your app, service, nifty super cool product of the now. Follow me pretty please with microchips on top, I'm @tinym
- Michelle
I don't want more followers, I want more engagement from existing followers. More subscribers is great and all - but if they're not going to engage, it doesn't excite me at all.
- Anthony Citrano
Nice idea! I'm not one to beg, but seeing as I could do with some more engaging followers, this is a bit of an experiment. Follow @daveinthecloud for predominantly tech, Apple and science-based updates.
- Dave
I use FriendFeed more to read interesting things I wouldn't normally see. I'm not always around and I don't always participate. Does that make me a bad person? (@elroy)
- elroy
Fun post! Lots of cool people to follow. Marketing and tech geek who happens to make wine in her basement. @bsmntbootlegger
- Karrie Sullivan
An impressive list of comments already. And I have found a few interesting people to follow here already. I guess it is all about "give and take".
- Mike Hellers
Ok, I'll bite: Why should you follow me? Because I post about science, math, music, programming and geek stuff with wit, style and panache.
- Chris Taylor
lol! I was making wine in my backpack on my bike trip this summer :)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Follow me. Help make media history by reaching the first 10 million follows. ... Well I guess that won't work anymore.
- Keith Barrett
Mike: same here
- Frank Sant'Agata
There is a lot of talk in the comments about "audience", "SEO" & the "need" for followers, this all appears very $ orientated to me, maybe someone "influential" should start a conversation along the lines of "how can I make you happy on friendfeed"?
- William
if you are a geek into getting stories related to social media, geeky stories, pics, videos, tech related stuff, like bacon or lego or star wars. you will probably like my stuff. check it out....and hope to see you soon!
- (jeff)isageek
Unless you like NSFW stuff and LOLCats stuff, really nothing to see with following me. :P
- Christian (Simply X)
I'm game for more followers. I run research boats for a living and sometimes like to blog about that, my bad ass dog Jake (Silky Terrier) and other things I find interesting...tech, cool photos, hikes, etc...on my personal Posterous blog. I've been active on twitter for quite awhile but am fairly new to Friend Feed. I get a real kick out of most members of the Gillmor Gang and like following their conversations...maybe I'll start to engage more.
- Scott Schanke
William: I think ur missing the point, it's about being new to ff and having a voice.
- Frank Sant'Agata
Praise @Scoble for once again "starting" a conversation
- William
For me, the whole tech deal has always been a love of the game issue. It's like writing, that way, and teaching, too. Interesting how perspectives differ. I just thought of this as fun, and as an opportunity to learn and connect. Also, my inner English prof always thinks of "audience" as a matter of rhetoric first. A thing like this, for instance http://tinyurl.com/cxkzpo is its own reward: great chance to meet people, and it made me *really* hungry.
- Kathy Fitch
Lindsey - surely meeting more serial killers is not the answer. ;-)
- Brian Sullivan
See, there? Lindsey not only spells her name correctly, but also likes horror! Lindsey, I spent quite a few years teaching horror film! (The *best* students in those classes, oh my gosh--such an interesting mix.)
- Kathy Fitch
Dying (editorial aside: ah, that's strictly metaphorical) laughing, here.
- Kathy Fitch
I just subscribed to everyone in this thread that I wasn't already subscribed to. Why? I love participation. People commenting here participate.
- Thomas Hawk
I'm Mark. I'm fascinated with Greenland. I enjoy teasing animals, banlon, and seeing people run for the lives. I love throwing garbage out the window, yet I'm extremely dainty. I also enjoy gas masks, octopus porn, throwing tridents, and stockpiling my own blood.
- Mark Wilson
Good plan Thomas I think I will do the same.
- Brian Sullivan
Hi. I'm Simon, i post a mashup of stuff from all sorts or genres. Photo's, art, tech, videos, games. I'm a bit of a 'i like everything' kind of guy. I try to get in on lots on convo's, and i never really leave FF, sometimes i just sit here idle and watch the world pass me by :)
- Simon Wicks
"That's an example of what I'd like you to do. I will follow anyone who answers on this thread" is that a promise robert ? :)
- goutham
that are some interesting question to address here...will people be more likely to get into friendfeed if more people follow them? or are people more keen on just sharing their thoughts and feelings with a select few? should there be a way to algorithmically increase the visibility of a post ? is that "fair" ?
- goutham
You should follow Pax Stereo Tv (www.paxstereo.tv) because we represent something NEW and DIFFERENT! While we lack the full sophistication of a traditional network, our "NeoUrban Internet Television" network is at least original and edgy, and we are streaming live Monday through Thursday every week! All this with only 3 full time staff! We represent YOU, the new breed! We are not perfect, but we keep it coming, and we are getting better. Peace. - Mario Hemsley CEO
- Pax Stereo Tv
What's the easiest way to go through and follow everyone here? I don't really have to go down the list one by one do I? I started to but thought there must be an easier way...
- Scott Schanke
Initiatives to free the world economy in ways that benefit the poor @openworld
- Mark Frazier
Scott: I had to add each one of my 14,377 subscriptions by hand, so so do you. Sorry, there isn't a way to "follow all" here. Which is a good thing, in my view.
- Robert Scoble
goutham: I am following everyone who has participated with a comment in this thread. Scott: you can see if you are following someone already by looking at the little icon to the left of their comment. If you are already following them, it'll be bluish. If you aren't, it'll be white.
- Robert Scoble
always be closing mario ;)
- mike "glemak" dunn
Ok thanks Robert...I'm just a bit frustrated that it keeps collapsing the conversation after each follow and therefore I have to find where the hell I left off...I'm plodding along though.
- Scott Schanke
Scott: I have this thread running in a popup Window. Here's how to do that. First, open this item up into its own Window by clicking here: http://beta.friendfeed.com/scoblei... Then click the time stamp (it says "5 hours ago" right now) and then it'll open up its own little Window. That makes it "live" and like a chat room. Scroll to the bottom and watch new items pop in.
- Robert Scoble
I follow smart, funny people, and I post/pass along all kinds of stuff. I never know what I'll come across next, anything from the effects of cancer treatment on IQ scores, to vintage cocktails, to news on weird fiction writers, to updates on the latest and greatest zombie games, to random questions and ideas that occur to me in the wee hours. I'm always looking for posts that have me saying, "Hmmmm, that's interesting...and here's why..."
- Heather
I'm not sure begging for followers is in our self interest, Robert. I find that the people who hawk themselves loudest aren't the people I make the best connection with. And it's that connection that matters whether it's a personal or professional.
- Susan Reynolds
Not sure if I need any followers, but I think people follow me because I'm so freakin awesome. Oh, you haven't heard of me? Find me on The Google. :)
- Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
Oooooo.. Choose me. Choose me. Choose me. Oh wait. You already follow me. But anyone else is welcome to read my nonsense about whatever is on my mind. Lately - dissertation, teaching chemistry, thinking about some technology, and just fun family items (mainly my dog)
- LPH™ and his dog P™
i vote for LPH!
- michael sean wright
Susan: that's fair. But in friendfeed you can put people into lists. So you can subscribe to all the "beggers" and put them into "begged for follow" list. That way it won't mess up your other followers.
- Robert Scoble
LOL nicefishfilms ..
- LPH™ and his dog P™
nicefishfilms: I'm already following LPH. Weird, I've met both him and you in real life, too!
- Robert Scoble
I'd rather people follow me because I said something or posted something interesting.
- CAJ, somewhere else
Rahsheen: if you are on "the Google" then you MUST be awesome! I'm on "the Google" too. Search for "Robert." :-)
- Robert Scoble
Yep - I'm being followed - (looking behind me) - wait - why are you always in front of me then Robert?
- LPH™ and his dog P™
Alan: you must have posted something interesting, because I'm following you. Either that or I thought you were that country singer! :-)
- Robert Scoble
LPH: you actually passed chemistry on the first try. I did not. ;-)
- Robert Scoble
Any interest in visiting Alaska? Find out why you should plan a trip to Fairbanks @insidealaska
- Inside Alaska
Robert: You're the first to mention it, actually. I wondered if the same thing was happening on Twitter. ;)
- CAJ, somewhere else
Inside Alaska: that's always been one of my life-long dreams. Interesting, I'm noticing more marketers setting up shop in friendfeed. Next come the celebrities! Alan: heh, probably!
- Robert Scoble
Here's why people follow me: http://beta.friendfeed.com/glenc...
- Glen Campbell, B.A.
this thread is officially to long to follow on an iphone
- mike "glemak" dunn
mike: it's too long to follow on a 24-inch Apple display, too! :-)
- Robert Scoble
We are always striving to be the best. @abounding
- Abounding Media
Thanks for the "Hot Tip" Robert!! Much easier.
- Scott Schanke
Follow me for posts about social media, the publishing industry, online communities, funny pictures, and my coffee addiction. Oh, and babies. I run a baby site and have a baby so...expect some babies. I also enjoy swearing so there may be some of that.
- Kate
Follow me (@abbashaiderali) if you like a mix of tech, finance, cars, random, and personal content. Variety keeps me interested & you're cut from the same cloth, we'll get along just fine :)
- Abbas Haider Ali
You can't be shy. You need to have a voice and use it.
- Russ Jackson
I promote the issues that are important to those I follow. But follow me because I took the time to read through ALL of these responses... :) @rbucich
- Rick Bucich
I dunno about begging but new followers are always nice
- Angela P.
I will have to say, I found several new people this way, so thanks Robert. I know I need to get better at finding more people myself, a la the FFundercats podcast Louis Gray discussion.
- Eric @ CS Techcast
you better be following me .. Im a fireman and I haz an axe ..
- johnpiercy
I don't want 'followers' - vanity is my least favourite sin. I want stimulating conversations & interesting stuff to read/watch/etc.
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
I'm @ryandadey and I love the internet and would like to be more engaged with people who feel the same. I like to share through FriendFeed and Twitter interesting tech, science and environment articles from Google Reader, as well some of my own thoughts. It would be more fun if I knew people were seeing my stream!
- Ryan Dadey
I'm just this guy whose life has been revolutionized by the social web. I'm no "guru" or "expert," but because I live here so much, many people and even companies and organizations have asked me to guide them into this landscape, a responsibility that both scares and energizes me. Because of that, I seek to share, give, and help anywhere possible. Trying to make tons of connections; if you want to be one, thanks!
- Mark Traphagen
You should follow me so you can point out where I could use some help on things, because I'm an interesting person, and because you like a bit of the crazy in the folks you follow. I'm Chris Charabaruk and I approve this beg for readers. http://beta.friendfeed.com/coldaci... http://coldacid.net http://twitter.com/coldacid
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Beg, droool, beg :)
- Susan Beebe
Martin Bryant is right - now that the US is asleep, this thread has died down. Onward Europe, Middle-east, Asia ! :)
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
Thanks for the offer to follow us commenters Robert. I subscribe to all friendfeeders who leave comments as well. It's a great way to get to the heart of who's really participating in the trenches here on FF. BTW about me.. I started writing and acting when I was seven. I'm a musician/singer/songwriter and freelance writer/journo. I help others use the web to build an audience for their passion.
- Jesse Newhart
hmm, so it is quiet when the US are offline! Too bad, I'd love some more people to follow, be followed and have conversations with from the rest of the sphere. Widen the horizon.
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
nice idea - unfortunately friendfeed gets unreadable with so much comments. btw: i'm friendfeeding mainly about technology, consulting, personal productivity, gtd...
- Alexander Benker
You should follow me because I tend to find interesting programming articles on the topics of: Django, Python, key-value stores, and more.
- Eric Florenzano
I don't care if people follow me or not. I've been writing online (Usenet) since 1989, before the web, but Google's index only seems to go back to 1992. Most of my stuff isn't even on my blog, it's in email lists and discussion threads such as http://tinyurl.com/df5kc2 and http://tinyurl.com/3gfqzj (better than anything I've written here). A sample will give you some idea: "By what...
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- Victor Panlilio
I like talking to people and having conversations. It's no fun being on the social web if I'm not engaging anybody, and I need followers and people to follow to do that.
- Jon, the Beartato of FF
No question about it, people should at least attempt to read new and different drummers daily because following the followed will always leave you in the follower camp. They laughed at Bob Dylan, they laughed at Gary Vaynerchuck, where are *they* now?
- randulo
I tend to follow the people that interact with me on my imported items, if I am not already following you I apologies. Just drop me a DM and I will happily subscribe to your feed :)
- Joe Dawson
That's a tough one, Joe -- you can only DM folks who have subscribed to you...
- Eric Johnson
I don't give a crap about the other comments here - I need to make sure I have the Scobles following me. I mean, I think they are already. But still. Gotta cover my bases. As to WHY anyone should follow me: I like to think I take a humorous outlook on things, and can make you giggle at least once per day. Snark is my tool. Also, I'm earnest and naive, and I'll treat you with the respect you expect and deserve from the Internet. Also, cats flushing toilets: http://bit.ly/2Lx2w
- Mike Nayyar
A retail designer by day (mainly customer experiences for consumer electronics shoppers) and a geek by night. If you want to brainstorm about how you'd like to shop and find cool new products, I'd love to hear from you.
- Jason Goldberg
Hi, @cantor there, i'm an It Systems Specialist and a student (Computer Engineering in Pisa). I think you can follow me because i have ideas and opinions and i want to express them, i like to find & share and I'll do the best in "extreme multitasking mode" :P.
- Lucio Riccardi - CantorJF
follow me because scoble told me to beg =P
- Zafarali
@robbell You should follow me because you lack the motivation to follow more inspiring individuals :)
- Rob Bell
I just started on FF and find it very interesting because of the focus on interaction arround subjects... FB is mostly talk about nothing, and I'm the only one in my friend group posting articles that interest me. Follow if u like... that will kindda help out on the interaction part!
- Kevin Nordmand
Over 280 comments. Advantage of FriendFeed. Nice. Follow me for some interesting stuff online and offline. Geeky and non-geeky
- Kannan
I am @alexisbellido and you should follow me to find more about teleworking, the Web and online businesses. I recently started using social media to support good causes and make your opinion matter. Currently supporting fight against hemophilia
- Alexis Bellido
People should follow other people because something is said that rings true. Not because someone BEGS for it. Please don't take this comment as an invitation to follow me, thanks.
- Vincent van Wylick
@Vincent: Well said. Truth is like gravity: you can pretend it doesn't exist, but you can't ultimately escape from it.
- Victor Panlilio
cool self help group here! social media anonymous! :D
- Dieter Schwarz
Great idea Robert :)
- Zee.
Nearing 300 comments, the Scoble Effect indeed. Is that FF comment raffle over by the way?
- Adi
For me at least, it's not as important that you follow me as it is that I follow you. You are very likely not to be interested in the stuff in my feed (and that's ok with me, please don't follow me unless you really find my crap, interesting), but you might like me commenting in your threads, which is where I get the most enjoyment from friendfeed..in the conversations on other people's posts. I am not that good of a conversation starter, but I am very good at jumping in when someone else does the starting.
- April Russo (app103)
Follow me because I find unique interesting content before most people, I read allot and am subscribed to allot of popular and interesting feeds not many people know about!
- Kyle Weller
Most of my feed activity revolves around various creative, social, and mobile technologies. Usually my own ideas and experiences with my own projects, and not so much link sharing. I like to think of myself as a quality over quantity kind of guy, so I won't overload your stream. I plan on hiking the Appalachian Trail next year and documenting it on the web as I go, so that should be interesting. I'm 5'9'' and I weigh... wait... what is this for again?
- Daniel Sims
I often hear I am hard to follow. Maybe it's the Dutch. Maybe my wandering spirit.
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
Ruud: That's why I don't twitter in Dutch. In fact we should just all talk English ;)
- Peter Kruit
Well I already follow the green guy (Scobelizer) on Twitter and FriendFeed and he follows me. But since I'm just an average guy, working in the Nonprofit field, I've found it a bit difficult to acquire followers on FriendFeed (not nearly as difficult on Twitter). So if anyone is interested in following someone who shares an eclectic mix of thoughts and interests, please feel free.
- John A. Taylor
It does feel good to have activity on your feed. Makes me feel like someone is listening to me.
- Christian Burns
I'm just getting started with friendfeed and already find the discussions great. I'm looking forward to being able to contribute some of my own thoughts to the conversations. After all, there are a lot of great things happening based off the idea of a person and the energy of a group.
- John Spyers
I'd love to connect with more marketers here on FriendFeed - not just social media types, but business and marketing strategy peoples... Small business owners would be great, too.
- Dennis O'Neil
I don't beg either, but since you asked...I'm good for some silliness, the occasional deep thought, encouragement of discussion of any kind (mostly political), and a good song or two. I'd like some musicians and poets to get on board as well.
- Helen Sventitsky
I like art, music, 3D, electric guitar, analgog synths, puppets, making stuff, my family, metaplace. I blog about artsy process and put up sweet flickr images.
- sergiooo
I have 9 followers, one is Robert, but virtually no discussion. I'm one of the few people on FF that works with the government, works in a non-IT startup, and will recommend great economics and sustainability items.
- Chris Stevenson
I just don't buy it yet. There is still way too much noise, and I'm not one of those guys with the time to go through posts with 300 (mostly uninteresting) comments. I have to filter extensively to get just a simdgeon of the interesting articles I pull off of GReader with Feedly and comments from the blogs themselves. Friendfeed would be great with Real Life connections, but they are all on Facebook. Friendfeed has a major uphill battle ahead of them, despite their superior interface and technology.
- Phil Ashman
FF is a good twitter client though..;)...
- Phil Ashman
Begging time. Follow me and SherylBreuker here (@kencamp & @SherylBreuker on Twitter. Please follow us and check this post Sheryl & Ken: Project Denmark (for 48 hours) #48hoursindk at http://stardustglobalventures.com/2009... We'll take you on the road to Denmark via social media. Help us win!
- Ken Camp
Great thread! Found some goodies in here (and some crazies)
- Daniel Morgan
Hey, I'm in. You go, Robert!
- John Gerstner
Because no matter who you are, it takes followers to get followers. You have to start somewhere...
- GeekDads.TV
You hungry?
- Myrna
Mobile changes everything - http://veryofficialblog.com/2009...
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- Meryn Stol
My question is simply - Is this a good thing? Are we all more connected, or just "cocooning" ourselves, so that actual interpersonal behaviour is no longer desired or required? Or is it what you make it?
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Hi Russell, I think it's what you make it. I've found a much larger group of people that inspire or challenge me than I currently know locally. It's an opportunity to improve my interactivity with others even if it's only written communication(I've been a hermit lately). It is making a difference in my personal contacts.
- Greg GuitarBuster
Good questions, but I really think that it depends entirely on the person and how they use or engage in on-line and off-line interactions. I don't believe the internet is going to "make" someone less interactive in real life unless they have tendencies in that direction anyway.
- Martha
Impressive graph - I wonder how much time you spent for this
- TrafficBug
I've used mind mapping procedures for years, so it only took about 45 minutes - I have an example of on line life to guide me...
- Russell Wagner
I agree with greg, it all depends on how you use social media.
- Mitch
Carroll of BU says that some consumers are offended by brands monitoring their conversations online, calling it "cyber stalking."
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I'm so provincial, I was like "reading [like a book] twestival" like, let's analyze it in parts... not Reading (the town) Twestival
- anna sauce
An apology - Editors - http://network.nationalpost.com/np...
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Personal and professional brand collide. Ugly (National Post)
- Doug Haslam
THE GLOBE & MAIL lays off 30 after 60 bounce : http://www.thestar.com/Busines...
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