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laura x
Greetings from the Iowa Library Association conference, where conference wifi continues to have the problems it did the last time I went to a conference in 2010.
Dr. Who references are not really hitting home with this audience. - laura x from iPhone
FDR references, however, are a hit. - laura x from iPhone
Exec board candidates are making statements that end "so vote for me or any of the other fine candidates." - laura x from iPhone
That's reminiscent of both times I ran for LITA president: running against a friend--both before and after the election---and if we'd had statements I'm sure that how we'd end them. - Walt Crawford
If there is any state that should know about how to run a campaign, it's Iowa. - Andy
laura x
My book is in 100 libraries.
That is a great accomplishment! - Steve C Team Marina
I do find the wording of this URL interesting... http://www.amazon.com/Night-S... - Joe
this book contains 'unexpected Laura Crossett' ;-) - Marina's Godmother :-)
Checked out 7 times here! - Rochelle *boom* Hartman
No one expects Laura Crossett, surprise is her greatest weapon. - Blake
I know at least one library that has it that is not in worldcat. - Katy S from iPhone
*wonders who will play him in movie version* what? it could happen ... FF could be a kind of pseudo Greek Chorus - MoTO: Team Marina
Katy, yup, my library has it and isn't in Worldcat. I assume there are others. - laura x from iPhone
So I think you could safely say "my book is in 100 PLUS libraries." - Regular Amanda
...and no MINUS libraries! - Aaron the Librarian
And it's on my kindle. I checked Wyldcat to verify that only 4 WY libraries have it, and it's true. BAD FORM, Wyoming librarians. - kaijsa
Cameron Neylon
Apologies to all but am afraid I was interviewed today on "the future of libraries"
BUT something occurred to me during that which is the difference between longevity as a mission objective in terms of the preservation *function* vs the longevity of the *institution* so as to deliver that function. I presume someone has written/thought about this at length? It only really occurred to me then. - Cameron Neylon
...and that challenges in management planning (prediction beyond or even within the mythical 5 year plan) play out differently if you focus on a different one of those two things. - Cameron Neylon
This was in answer to a question on "what timeframes should libraries plan for". And my first answer was "centuries" and my second was "it depends on what you mean by 'plan'". - Cameron Neylon
10 lashes with a piece of tattle tape for you! ;) - lris
Oh, I think we plan for both? Unless I'm not understanding what you mean by preservation function. - Meg VMeg
Who was the interviewer? Do you have a link with more info about it? - Joe
Would another term for preservation in terms of "longevity of the institution" be "sustainability"? Or does that muddy the waters even further? - Catherine Pellegrino
Libraries should not plan (as in "strategic plan") instead should set goals and adopt useful strategies http://www.ssireview.org/blog... [eta: too bad this program was cancelled at ALA Annual http://ala14.ala.org/node... ] - Aaron the Librarian
Sorry, that wasn't very clear. I was trying to articulate that "Library as memory institution" doesn't necessarily imply the *library* hangs around forever but that the relevant functions (preservation, curation, weeding etc) do. The interview was part of a project at a UK research university looking at what it is doing for the future, so not a media thing. - Cameron Neylon
So was wondering whether when people think about ensuring that those activities have a long life (centuries) do they just assume the institution continues or do they think about how to ensure that the functions will continue (and one way of doing that is to institutionalise them). I may be just thinking myself in knots here but it seemed like an important point at the time. - Cameron Neylon
@Aaron Yes! That's more or less exactly what I said (only with...like...rationale and stuff). Will pass that on to the interviewer! - Cameron Neylon
I think you're entirely right, Cameron. I have sometimes phrased this in terms of opportunity and opportunity cost -- as New Stuff comes around, libraries have to consciously decide whether it's Library Stuff or not. Naturally there are risks in both directions: New Stuff that's a waste of time or off-mission, vs. New Stuff that gets institutionalized (as you put it) outside the library because the library dithered instead of committing to it. - RepoRat
And honestly, wouldn't it be nice if we did more to preserve stuff collectively and less trying to justify ourselves locally? - barbara fister
Weeeellllll, yes, but that puts us in the exact vulnerable position that university presses got into. UPs were/are *systemically* vital but *locally* hard to justify, which after a while meant Very Large Axes got taken to their subsidies. It's a dangerous line to walk. - RepoRat
Dude, local or die :) - Meg VMeg
Which means issues best addressed systemically... don't get effectively addressed. If there's an answer to this dilemma, I dunno what exactly it is. - RepoRat
Is the interview going to appear anywhere? And as for systematically, I think the Ontario-wide Scholars Portal collaboration shows potential for libraries getting together and saving the world a little bit. - John Dupuis
@John: no I don't think so, it was a strategic planning exercise not a media thing. @RepoRat, MegVMeg: Another aspect was the question of the "local" libraries within the institution, departmental, college etc. I made the point that local provision was no doubt being justified on the basis of local user need, and that was a good justification, but what about user groups that didn't have... more... - Cameron Neylon
Hmmmm...through hiring diverse staff, through programming/outreach and surveys, through paying attention to the community when they leave the walls of the library and paying attention to hunches. It's definitely a big question, but it's one we bother to struggle with and think about, and one that gets discussed in LIS education. - Meg VMeg
Mr. The Jason Fleming
I had a dream last night where the library did a hostile takeover of the theater
laura x
WEEDING. There is going to be room in the mystery stacks by the end of this week if I have to get rid of every last duplicate copy I have, dammit.
Not the Cat Who Mysteries!! *prostrates self across the B section* :-p - Hedgehog
Oh, I'm keeping those. I'm just not keeping two copies of them. - laura x
^^^ and common sense prevails once again in the heart of the Midwest! Huzzah! - Louise "Weezy" Alcorn
That was less "weed" than it was "slash and burn." - laura x
Sometimes that's the best option. - Katy S from iPhone
*has EVERY "Cat Who..." book ever, some in both hard and softcover* #secret - Big Joe Silence
oh, and the cookbook. 0_o - Big Joe Silence
Good for you!! - Yvonne Renee from FFHound!
i inherited 2/3 of them in paperback form from my late paternal grandmother. she gave them to me without explanation just before she died and i ended up reading all of them afterwards. - Big Joe Silence
I have full run of softcover and the cookbook too! I keep meaning to make kabibles or the Iris Cobb recipes. - Hedgehog from Android
ωαřмaiden ❤Bassetmom❤
Yep. That's an Otto & Igor totebag by artist John LaFree. Cutest. Swagbag. Evar. - http://johnlafree.com/collect...
Yep. That's an Otto & Igor totebag by artist John LaFree. Cutest. Swagbag. Evar.
kendrak
I THINK WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THE FUTURE OF LIBRARIES APPARENTLY WE ONLY HAVE FIVE MONTHS TO LIVE
phew - jambina
so really we need a wake. - kendrak
sounds like we should pull an Edson for libraries... oh wait, he kinda did already! http://www.slideshare.net/edsonm... - jambina
nah, let's rebrand the wheel. BIBLIOTECA FUTURISMO! - kendrak
Can we put big fins on the back of the building? - DJF from Android
I want to talk about the future of futurists. - Zamms
Your Unconference should totally include a wake for libraries. - ~Courtney F
Write a melodica piece "Dirge for libraries" - jönαthaη
theremin. this totally calls for a theremin. - RepoRat
listeners know i don't have a theremin, otherwise it'd be on the show. - kendrak
Wait, we covered my opinion on the future of libraries on the last show didn't we? I could just repeat my one thought on this over and over again and could become a paid consultant! - Zamms
you do have consultant hair. - kendrak
ONLY TWO MORE MONTHS TO LIVE! - Aaron the Librarian from Android
Two months it will be 10/12/14. Is that going to be bad for libraries for some reason? - Joe
Libraries will die the day before my birthday. THAT'S SIGNIFICANT SOMEHOW. - Zamms
maʀtha
Shelf Check: Approachability Buttons - http://shelfcheck.blogspot.com/2014...
Shelf Check: Approachability Buttons
Shelf Check: Approachability Buttons
Shelf Check: Approachability Buttons
I love the magic 8 ball one - maʀtha from Bookmarklet
I should just buy a Magic 8 ball for the desk - maʀtha
Magic 8 ball FTW! - RepoRat
omg I love the argyle one - Soup in a TARDIS
laura x
Found at the library today. Label reads "Files from old computer index--see 'Computer Files' pre Y2K."
y2k.jpg
this would make a good slide for something - maʀtha
CC-BY. :D - laura x
laura x
Our library's IP address range is currently blocked from Craigslist.
no more shenanigans for you, missy! - maʀtha
Katie
RT @sarahmaclean: This is your regular reminder that there is no X in “Espresso.” #coffeeshopwoes
Julian
MLB All-Star Game to feature self-serve beer machines - ESPN - http://espn.go.com/mlb...
MLB All-Star Game to feature self-serve beer machines - ESPN
Is this a good idea? - Julian from Bookmarklet
Probably not. Aside from any concern about someone being underage, people who've been drinking are not the best at operating unfamiliar (or even familiar) machinery. - Jennifer Dittrich
Then again, if you can't operate it then you don't get the beer, so.... - Kirsten
True, though people do tend to get ornery when thwarted like that. I wonder if they've got a function to summon security built in? - Jennifer Dittrich
Regular Amanda
Srsly, just Google it.
(Sorry, that's my cranky response to twiddly citation questions.) - Regular Amanda
(also my cranky response to "how do I get Excel to do this" questions) - Catherine Pellegrino
a student asked me if I could help her if, in the future, she has Qs about using Mac instead of PC. I said, um, maybe. She said "well, I guess I could just Google it." :-) - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
lris
I will not take on my students' procrastination as my own anxiety. I will not take on my students' procrastination as my own anxiety. I will not take on my students' procrastination as my own anxiety... #finals
My own procrastination,on the other hand ... oh, say, would like some of my anxiety? You're so helpful, thanks. - barbara fister
Yeah, I just got a panicked annotated-bib-due-tonight email. That I'm posting this during the 10 free minutes I have to shove a luna bar in my mouth before the desk tells you a bit about how sympathetic I'm feeling. - kaijsa
Aaron the Librarian
Double checking myself before answering an easy copyright question: reproducing an image from a 1917 newspaper is fine because public domain. Right?
In the U.S., yep. - lris
Addendum, reproducing a reproduction may not be fine. But reproducing the thing itself: totally public domain. - lris
Reproducing a reproduction ("slavish copy") is also fine. Though many museums commit copyfraud on this point. - JffKrlsn from Android
Except if the reproduction is governed by a license agreement, as is pretty much all digital content. License trumps copyright. - lris
If there is a license agreement in the way, it would be slavishly reproducing a reproduction anyway ;) Thanks for the addendum, I think that's what was poking me that I couldn't think of - Aaron the Librarian from Android
To clarify, while contracts do generally trump copyright, not every contract is valid, and you may not actually be a party to the contract. A museum can post reproductions of public domain art on its website and say, "By using this website, you agree that if you use these images you will include x information". But that is likely not a valid, enforceable contract. The reproduction... more... - JffKrlsn
Turns out this was the author creating/saving a TIFF of a political cartoon from a physical microfilm copy of a local newspaper from 1917. So, totally public domain. My response above Jeff's was meant in jest about a digital microfilm copy downloaded and cropped from a licensed archival database :) - Aaron the Librarian
DJF
I think that what we've all learned from this is to make sure that there are no panellists named "Jane".
Or Dan. - RepoRat
Or having the initials SA. - Joe
Steele Lawman
Steve's guide to weeding: if there's a chicken on the cover of a philosophy book, don't weed it. It just hasn't found its reader yet.
So this chicken comes into the library and says, "BOOK book book book!" The librarian's slightly bemused but gives it a book and the chicken goes away happy. However shortly afterwards it brings the book back again and repeats, "BOOK book book book!" The librarian checks in the book, checks out another book, and off the chicken goes. But then it comes back a third time, "BOOK book book book!" - Deborah Fitchett
Well now the librarian's really curious, so gives the chicken its third book then takes a coffee break and follows it all sneaky-like. And there the chicken takes the book down to a nearby pond and offers it to a frog, who says, "Reddit! Reddit!" - Deborah Fitchett
^^^ chuckle. - barbara fister
Steele Lawman
update to previous bulletin: It is a three-legged chicken with glasses on a cord around its neck. Who could weed such a thing?
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Not I, said the duck. Er, chicken. - laura x
Hedgehog
My student employee found this while weeding.
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I'm sure lasagna is a dilemma for doctors. Yep. - RepoRat
That's right up there with the volume of the New Grove Dictionary of Music and Musicians that covers entries from Back to Bolivia. - Catherine Pellegrino
I loved that album - DJF
Grove Dictionary of Art has a volume that covers entries from Leather to Macho. (Those wacky folks at Grove!) - Catherine Pellegrino
Now I'm hungry. - Jason P
From the lasagna? Or? :) - Christina Pikas from iPhone
The 1911 Britannica (which I grew up with; don't ask) has a MUN to PAY volume that I always thought had pun potential, but Grove always takes the cake in this contest. - laura x
It's just that episode of Doctor Who where he fights monsters that look like food. - Andy
That reminds me of my favorite treatise at one of my insurance clients (they also to some maritime law) - "The Law of Seamen" - I'm always careful how I pronounce that. - Steven M. Cohen
My sister was tweeting this morning about macaroni cheese too. I guess I've got dinner sorted. - Deborah Fitchett
maʀtha
You know, Elsevier, I don't want students to ever see an option to purchase articles in a database we license. This is what ILL is for (or possibly purchase on demand).
An Elsevier rep just asked me on the phone whether I had any feedback about ScienceDirect. Well, yes, I do! - maʀtha
Those yachts don't buy themselves, Martha. - Andy
the hell with databases we licence. If the provider knows who we are, as evidenced by a "Welcome, member of [MPOW]" message at the top of the page, then I don't want to see an option to purchase. - DJF
^^^Word.^^^ - kaijsa
ANDY!!! *tacklehugs* - maʀtha
Then how would we purchase stuff when we want to? - Steele Lawman
I just sent Elsevier a support ticket asking why their "Get Full Text Elsewhere" button has to appear on article records just below the button that connects to our link resolver. http://www.screencast.com/users... - Stephen Francoeur
thank you, Stephen. they need to hear this from someone other than me - maʀtha
On a related note, we're finding our link resolver (SFX) gets confused in ScienceDirect. If we see an article record in ScienceDirect for something we don't have access to, we can click our Find It icon, get a SFX menu, and see a target link for DOI. Clicking that DOI target link then brings you right back to the same damn article in ScienceDirect that we don't have access to. Here's a... more... - Stephen Francoeur
That's because DOIs are designed to point to the canonical (ie, publisher) copy, rather than to the appropriate copy. - DJF
Can you use display logic to prevent your Science Direct target from displaying if the source is SD, Stephen? I'm not at work yet (training) but I can tell you what we have when I get there. - Jaclyn aka spamgirl from Android
Jaclyn, that's a good suggestion that I'll pass on to the person who manages SFX for all the CUNY libraries (we have a shared installation). - Stephen Francoeur
Elsevier rep got back to me about my support ticket asking whether we could make the "Get Full Text Elsewhere" button go away. No luck. But she suggested that we're free to make our link resolver button bigger. I'm thinking of going ginormous with a new icon. - Stephen Francoeur
Julian
Significant portions of the Polaris ILS desktop client rely on Internet Explorer. In most cases, that traffic will stay within your local network, but still... oops...
desktop client... relies on web browser?! *facepalm* - Aaron the Librarian
Right up there with a "web application" that depends on Internet Explorer and ActiveX. - Julian
lris
Happy birthday to the LSW, founded 4/27/2007. It's been a fantastic 7 years. *hugs everyone*
*dons festive hat* - LB put a spell on you. from Android
So much love to everyone - maʀtha
cake? will there be cake? - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
*sets up 15 French presses* - maʀtha
*cartwheels through the stacks* - laura x from iPhone
Huh, I joined tumblr the same day... - Aaron the Librarian
There will always be cake - Aaron the Librarian
The cake is a lie :( - Meg VMeg
Luckily, the professional development is the truth. #librarian - lris
I brought pie as a backup. - Julian
Thank goodness, Julian. We wouldn't want to disappoint #teampie - maʀtha
*raises a glass to Meebo* - RepoRat
Wow... happy anniversary to us. Can't believe it's been 7 years already - Hedgehog
How about Pie inside of cake. Because. - ♫Robot Chicken, Trainer♫
Hey, that means the LSW is exactly 39 years younger than C! - Catherine Pellegrino
Wait... we need full tea service for this party. - Julian
and a butler - maʀtha
white gloves? - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
I want to restart the pie conversation, cuz I Like Pie. Happy Birthday, LSW, you old coot! - Louise "Weezy" Alcorn
kelly
Anyone a Polaris customer? We're still waiting for the "April Fool's" follow up on this one... http://www.iii.com/polaris
See http://www.thedigitalshift.com/wp-cont... for context: check Innovative's total-install stats, then check Polaris's. Full article at http://www.thedigitalshift.com/2013... - RepoRat
Looks to me like Innovative can't win new customers (and is hemorrhaging existing ones) so is resorting to buying them. - RepoRat
Thanks for the links! - kelly
can't go wrong with Marshall Breeding; dude checks his work. - RepoRat
seconding rr, marshall is about the only one i trust when it comes to reporting info on library systems, and a few other things as well. always unbiased and solid info - Sir Shuping is just sir
We're a Polaris customer. We haven't heard anything. I would have assumed this was April Fool's all the way, but that FAQ on the III site is really specific with exactly the questions I'd be asking Polaris. - Greg Schwartz
perhaps if they hadn't hired a Director of Library Futures... - Hedgehog
not an April Fools joke... https://twitter.com/library... - jambina
for an April 1 joke, they'd have to get Polaris in on it or they'd get sued out of existence... and I can't really see that happening. - RepoRat
We're about to move to Polaris in 3 weeks. Fun times. - laura x
Even from outside of Libraryland, I quite intimately know this move by III. - Julian
Marshall Breeding writes fast. http://www.alatechsource.org/blog... - RepoRat
My sales rep confirmed it as well. And yes, of course, had it been a joke, Polaris would have to have been in on it. It was posted on their site too. - Greg Schwartz
That looks like a press release, RR. - Andy
Or maybe not. Damn, that dude writes fast. - Andy
Is there a simple explanation as to what this means in libraryland? This is an area I really don't follow or know much about. - Andy
For me, it probably means an RFP for a new ILS vendor contract. Bah. - Greg Schwartz
For us it means we just spent a couple of years making a decision to go with one vendor over another only to find out now that they are about to be the same vendor in the future. - laura x
Bigger picture, it means fewer good options for public libraries and a reduction in competition in the space, both in terms of innovation and pricing. - Greg Schwartz
But it also means that the people I really like and respect at Polaris just got paid. So that's cool. - Greg Schwartz
If (ok, I'll say when) anything happens, it will be years from now. At this point they'll say both products are continuing going forward. They might try to say things like SirsiDynix did when they were going to roll out Rome to replace Unicorn and Horizon (and Dynix) and then fireball the whole thing, pick one ILS, and then try to incorporate the best features from the other ILS into... more... - John: Thread Killer
Early on, pay closer attention to your relationships with sales and support than to changes in the products themselves. The people at the companies with whom you have the most direct contact will not immediately have all the answers, so be nice about expectations of change. I look at the acquisition as III tapping Polaris to lead their public library strategy (which has historically needed help), and Polaris gaining the resources it has needed to more effectively keep its (rapid) growth moving forward. - Julian
Steele Lawman
We don't eat books.
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... oops. *looks guilty* *removes scrap of paper from corner of mouth* - RepoRat
*passes the hot sauce* - Kirsten
why the heck not?? - Sir Shuping is just sir
But they are high in fiber! - Andy
After several years of no raises, we might start. - kaijsa
Speak for yourself, Lawson - maʀtha
I have. Long ago. - lris
But they smell so good! - Katy S
laura x
If you come to my library RIGHT NOW you can hear me read stories for Storytime for Grownups.
read David Sedaris! - maʀtha
How did it go? I always wanted to try something like this. - Hedgehog from Android
i'd like something like this. i spend most of my sunday listening to radio programs which do this ... - henry
You should live stream it next time. - MoTO: Team Marina from Android
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Steele Lawman
The Sergio Rivera-Ayala award for disingenuous self-promotion goes to...
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... wow. Loving the spelling in the subject line. - RepoRat
I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess he's not affiliated with your uni. - Hedgehog
I love how it's from both Benjamin Kahan AND Andy Warhol - lris
It's funny, most people think we read all day, and then we get this guy who clearly thinks we can't read at all. - RepoRat
Steele Lawman
The real question is, how many lightbulbs does it take to change a librarian?
Love this - I shall use it but in reference to publishers...combined with a picture of some of our favourite bloggers with a lightbulb over their heads... - Cameron Neylon
I would love to use it as the epigraph in my reskilling book. May I? - RepoRat
Depends, is it a Brand Damascene bulb? - Pete : Team Marina
None. The librarian will change when the pain of staying the same exceeds the pain of change. - Aaron the Librarian from Android
RepoRat, of course you may. I might not even be the first to say it, but I was too lazy to check the original light bulb thread. - Steele Lawman
What type of lightbulb? If it is one of those spiffy LED lightbulbs, then the librarian would likely not need to change for at least a decade. - Julian
Marie
We're at 1,111 subscribers! What does it mean?
double rainbows! - RepoRat from iPod
Either that there are too many librarians on FF, or that there are a lot of spammers who just like to lurk. - Steele Lawman
Still holding - maʀtha
~Courtney F
Thank god. I don't know that I could be a good librarian without you all.
Or thank cod. - barbara fister
In Cod We Trust - Andy
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