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#10yearsago I was in Austin, TX, in library school, married, but no kids yet. Simpler times, but things have only improved. #fb
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10 years ago, I was in Montreal, about to start my last term at library school, married w/ 4 & 6 year old kids. We were also hosting a big y2k party that evening.
- John Dupuis
#10years ago I was in New York, NY, in my last semester of library school, married, but no kids yet.
- Stephen Francoeur
Francoeur and I have parallel lives, to some extent.
- s t e v e
IROSF to Close - http://www.sfsite.com/news...
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It's interesting that the print-only New York Review of Science Fiction is still going strong after 20+ years.
- John Dupuis
Drunk patron peed on our furniture. Filling out state property damage form.
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My word.
- Pete
Ewww.
- Junebug (aka Sarah Jill)
Feh.
- josh neff, geek at large
Time to start circulating (one-time use only, please) Depends?
- Stephen Francoeur
*paging Derrick* THE GLAMOROUS LIFE OF LIBRARIANS, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN!
- Sarah G.
Student or other?
- LB - all new for '10!
employee from elsewhere on campus, actually.
- Archangel ωαřмaiden
them drunk patrons keep me employed .. my firehall is across from a Major Canadian University ,, party time all the time .. pee is nothing .. we had a elevator burn up ,, nearly fried the residence
- johnpiercy
*puts on biohazard suit and grabs the baby wipes* Wait, an *employee*? :(
- Derrick
Ick. Ick, ick, ick.
- Mary Beth Sancomb Moran
There's a reason that staff christmas parties need to be dry.
- DJF
Can't say I've had to have that one happen here...yet. But we did have some boys "decorate" the downstairs bathroom one night.
- Abigail
Ooph. I have to know, did someone witness this or find out the hard way that the furniture had been peed on?
- Rachel Walden
The worst we've had biohazard-wise lately is students leaving banana peels on the floor or on the computer tables. We have had students with anger management issues kick in the walls in our men's room. All the walls in that room are now plywood instead of drywall, most of it tiled some just painted.
- John Dupuis
Rachel - Witnessed. When guards & my 3rd shift super woke him up, he was still intoxicated & urinated on the leather seat & floor. The amazing thing is that this actually happens really rarely - happened way more when I was at Kentucky than here!
- Archangel ωαřмaiden
ewwwwwwwwwwww
- VAL D. Zone
Just another day in the library.
- Miriella
this reminds me of working for the phone company, actually...
- Joe Silence disconnected
There are six million stories in the Naked Library. So why do we always have to see these ones?...Colleen, this is truly blech
- Pete
The Naked Library, eh? i need to get a card there.
- Joe Silence disconnected
The American Nudist Research Library: http://www.anrl.org/
- DJF
That is a "special library" if ever I have seen one, but no one from ANRL is a member of SLA.
- Joe
o_O.... wait, unless you're in Europe, ain't it kinda early to be *that drunk*?
- MASTER OF THE OBVIOUS
ewww..that's so gross...but i worked some place & a patron's colostomy bag sprung a leak..:(
- Anna Lynn M.
Did you send him the chair as a memento of the occasion?
- ♫Geek in the 410♫
O.o
- Jason Huebel
Is he fired?
- Baroness Von BusinessTime
ωαřмaiden - so he basically pissed himself when woken up, rather than intentionally urinating on the chair?
- Michael R. Bernstein
yeah he did. we're not sure we can bill him for the cleaning, but we're gonna try. It was one of those things that happens when someone drinks way too much. Im sure it wasn't intentional, he jut lost control. Nonetheless, it defaced the library's property.
- Mary Carmen
OK, here it is, the epic post of the month: http://scienceblogs.com/clock...
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Wowso...
- Graham Steel
tl;dr. But I printed it out to read on my commute! :-)
- Bill Hooker
I printed it off too and read page 1 of 27 on my commute (which is only 6 minutes). Will read the rest on a longer journey !!!
- Graham Steel
Six minutes? Mine's 1.5 - 2 hours, depending on which train/bus combination I take (the faster route is only operational at certain times of day). It's not so bad if I remember to bring reading material.
- Bill Hooker
2 hours! Even this post can be read in less than that!
- Bora Zivkovic
Bill, my commute ranges from about 1-1.5 hrs, depending on the traffic. It can be longer in bad weather or the insane crush weeks at the start of each school term. At two hours, you're a prime candidate for an ebook reader!
- John Dupuis
John just pulled the words from my fingers. Anything over 45 minutes screams for one.
- Deepak Singh
You know your commute is too long when you can read an entire Bora Epic in one trip... if the Kindle DX were not ridiculously expensive I'd already have one. Most of my reading is pdfs (spit!) so I do not want the regular Kindle, but I will get to try it out since my wife just got one.
- Bill Hooker
Bill the Kindle2 supports regular PDF now (since the last firmware update) http://arstechnica.com/gadgets...
- Deepak Singh
from IM
Ooh, nice. Thanks for pointing that out, Deepak. I still think the screen will be too small for comfort, but we'll see... would it make me a bad person if I stole my wife's Xmas present? :-)
- Bill Hooker
I've read a Kindle2 for hours (albeit mostly all books) and it was always stolen ;)
- Deepak Singh
from IM
There's bologna in our slacks!
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We have play or pay contracts!
- Gunny doesn't side-hug™
At first glance I read "stacks" instead of "slacks."
- John Dupuis
Animaney--
- Betsy (bentley) Vera
Totally insaney--
- josh neff, geek at large
hee. So did I, John.
- Yolanda
Finished book 5 of the Harry Dresden Series. Love 'em
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Is this a series I can dive into the middle or should I start from the first one?
- John Dupuis
Start from the first.
- David Rothman (☤)
Thanks.
- John Dupuis
RT @michael_nielsen: Technologies from the future, as seen by an early astronaut http://twitpic.com/1faqu
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But, what did the astronaut have for breakfast, and what did it look like? That is what I want to know.
- Joe
A tube of bacon & eggs and a sippy cup of Tang.
- John Dupuis
How I found librarianship - http://www.nuthingbut.net/2009...
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Thanks, Joe. That's a great story. My story is here: http://jdupuis.blogspot.com/2006...
- John Dupuis
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- John Dupuis
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- Abigail
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- laura x
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- s t e v e
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- s t e v e
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- s t e v e
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- Steven Perez
Futures thinking and my job in 10 years - http://scienceblogs.com/confess...
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John, I might try to use this as a discussion lead for the unconference in 3 weeks.
- Joe
John, fascinating piece, but I wonder if we really have enough information to predict change. Rather shouldn't we (and that is part of your point) be in a position to adjust to any change we might encounter?
- Deepak Singh
John, I'm probably going to use this on the first day of my collection-development class. :) It's exactly the sort of thing I want students working out in their own heads.
- D0r0th34
thanks, everyone. The whole point of what I'm trying to do is ask question. Deepak, you're right. In a sense, I'm not trying to come up with *the* answer about the future, but rather use some scenario-building as a way of being metally prepared. I always think of Harry Turtledove's WorldWar series, where earth is invaded by aliens in the middle of WWII. One of his viewpoint characters...
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- John Dupuis
To follow up to Deepak's point: the purpose of SF isn't to make concrete predictions about the future, but rather to give a new way to think about present challenges. When SF writes predict something right on, it's usually by accident. Am I predisposed to thinking about the future because I read SF or do I read SF because I'm predisposed to think about the future? An interesting...
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- John Dupuis
There's a difference between fortunetelling and extrapolation. The former is impossible. The latter is necessary, but always with an awareness that stuff comes out of left field. I thought IRs were dead -- and then Harvard happened. I wasn't wrong in what I was noticing; it's just that the playing field suddenly changed. It happens. The awareness, however, has still proven useful.
- D0r0th34
I grew up reading Asimov (my dad was a huge fan) and the whole concept of robots and the likes were fascinating. I definitely continue to believe we can/should imagine. I also believe that things never quite happen that way. The key is understanding science well enough to be able to appreciate the times when fiction becomes reality
- Deepak Singh
Just like I would date a dude based on his record collection, I would also break-up with him because of his lack of it. #iamshallow #musicsnobbery
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data?
- Joe Silence disconnected
date- i think faster than I type.
- Mary Carmen
Gotta be vinyl?
- s t e v e
it does not have to be vinyl, but I will always appreciate vinyl.
- Mary Carmen
What'll you do in the future -- check out his iPod?
- John Dupuis
Actually I do check out his ipod, his blip and last streams. I ask about what he is loving at the moment. I would break up with someone if they had little to no passion about music, more than what they are listening to. I have pretty broad and eclectic tastes. More than anything, I want them to be passionate about it.
- Mary Carmen
What type of bands would be a deal breaker for you? Is this more genre specific or are they're certain acts that turn you off?
- Davis Freeberg
I think for me, popular country would be a deal breaker.
- Mary Carmen
I have to say that I used to say this, but had to forgive my wife for her love of John Denver. Sometimes upbringing leaves lifetime scars.
- Jeremy (on vacation)
Mary, I'm right there with you. Oh, and I need some vinyl. Like 10+? Not much, but enough.
- Kendra <3 Three Lions
Please dont break up with me because of my shitty music collection!
- Archangel ωαřмaiden
lol...Colleen is there something you should tell me? Are you a dude? Is our homance totally fake?
- Mary Carmen
Oh, as long as music doesnt enter into the homance, that's okay. I keep my country tunes far from you :)
- Archangel ωαřмaiden
except when im in your car.....lol. no worries, i still love you.
- Mary Carmen
don't hate me for my lack of affection for country music.
- Morgan Haley
*hopes Creed and Nickelback would be deal breakers*
- Joe Silence disconnected
*nods at Joe*
- Mary Carmen
*cleans up music collection*
- ha3rvey (wants confit)
I lie a little....there is a Creed song or two I like.
- Mary Carmen
0_o *TOTALLY breaks up with you*
- Joe Silence disconnected
And I had to forgive my husband his strange love of both the Pixies and Static X... there's worse things than bad taste in music ;-)
- Jenthemum
lol....s'ok. you're wife will be happy!
- Mary Carmen
HEY ... you forgot The Cure. You hate them too.
- Jeremy (on vacation)
I am not really as concerned with bad taste, as I am with no taste at all. For many reasons, music is incredibly important to me. I grew up literally surrounded by it, it has always helped me through my treatments and illness, and almost every fun time I have had has centered around it in some way. I must have someone who enjoys it as much as I do.
- Mary Carmen
I went for the worst of the worst.... The Cure has at least grown on me.
- Jenthemum
One day you will love the Pixies as well. Muahahahha.
- Jeremy (on vacation)
I could see that... I used to work with a lady whose husband hated to have music playing. That would be difficult for a music lover.
- Jenthemum
Jer- don't bet on it. My repulsion has only grown.
- Jenthemum
i married someone for whom music is aural wallpaper. for her, the perfect volume is the edge of perceptibility! :(
- Joe Silence disconnected
*side hugs Joe sympathetically*
- Jenthemum
So I'm guessing my chipmunks christmas album prolly...
- WarLord
I like the Chipmunks Christmas album.....in December.
- Mary Carmen
one of the reasons i got with my SO was that he collected CRASS records (and OpIvy) as obsessively as i collect stupid punk bands. mutual appreciation, baby.
- Kendra <3 Three Lions
*weeps openly*
- Joe Silence disconnected
there is no crying in MUSIC!
- Mary Carmen
You don't listen to Morrissey, do you?
- Kendra <3 Three Lions
KK , be nice! ;-)
- Mary Carmen
nope, tho i do rate Johnny Marr as a guitarist. but i don't think they've collaborated in ages.
- Joe Silence disconnected
I'm a music freak and used to feel the same way about dating men with bad/no taste in music, but I got over it. When R and I started dating, he wasn't really into music much, but some of my taste rubbed off on him and he actually got into some bands and started bringing cool music to me. Win.
- Kaijsa Calkins
I'm a firm believer in prerequisite questions about music before you ever date someone, there are somethings you just need to know.
- Holly Rae
I like music, but it's not a *passion* I haven't bought music in ages, nor downloaded. And as for films...
- Pete
Laredo could be largest US city without bookstore - Yahoo! Finance - http://finance.yahoo.com/news...
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"With a population of nearly a quarter-million people, this city could soon be the largest in the nation without a single bookseller."
- Sir Shuping
from Bookmarklet
unlike!
- Fiona Bradley
Laredo isn't near a big city where someone could drive to a bookstore, it IS the big city. It's frightening to be so disconnected. (Of course the only B. Dalton's I've ever been in where very small and in malls.)
- Jeff Scott
Meh. A town will have the bookstores it deserves. It's not like they don't have Amazon in Laredo.
- s t e v e
It's great that they have Amazon, but one of the benefits of a bookstore is being able to wander around and find new authors and to me its more difficult to do that online
- Sir Shuping
If there are enough booklovers in Laredo, someone will open a bookstore. (Meanwhile, I'd bet there are booksellers--that is, places that sell books--e.g. Target, Other Large Chains. Not the same as having a good bookstore, to be sure.) A couple of indie bookstores have reopened around here lately; it's not impossible.
- Walt Crawford
It would be interesting to track online book sales for Laredo for the next couple of years. Will they be higher than average for a city of it's size? Will they jump up and stay up? Or will the overall book/literary culture weaken? Or does Laredo already have a weak book culture.
- John Dupuis
Heck do they even read in Texas? *Was born there!
- Tim Keneipp
Tim: I can almost visualize the Austinites preparing appropriate responses...
- Walt Crawford
Heck Walt Austin is not in Texas! They are their own state of mind, mainly not out of it.
- Tim Keneipp
For you librarians whose libraries have Facebook Pages: who administers it? And how did you figure that out? I have a new job. At the old place, I set up the page and was the only one who ever bothered with it. We're setting up a FB page here at the new place, and it looks like we're going to be more formal about it. Your input, please!
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We have a Facebook page (http://www.facebook.com/pages...). We on the Web Content Team set it up and administer it (one person in particular) because it's in our "jurisdiction." Because we have a Web Content Team, it makes doing things like this fairly easy.
- josh neff, geek at large
Our User Services Librarian is responsible for it... but it's only been a few months. I dunno yet if we'll expand that role to include other staff, or keep it localized for the sake of accountability/responsibility. Things that are un-owned tend to languish, I've found.
- Jenica
I manage my library's Facebook page, because I'm the only person here. :-) http://www.facebook.com/pages...
- Stephanie_Happy2010!
I set it up, and added a few other people as administrators, but no one else ever touches it.
- kristin buxton
I administer the Penrose Library page. I set it up about 1.5 years ago. I have a couple of other people as administrations, but same as with Kristin, no one else touches it. Then again, I don't touch it all that much, maybe once a month. I will send out some announcements on FB and Twitter. I have grown tired of FB quite a bit.
- Joe
I led an implementation group with members from various areas of the library (branches, IT, collections) to set ours up (http://www.facebook.com/uclibra...). We ended up giving each person one day of the week to check and respond to comments, and I'm backup if someone's on leave. I add events whenever library admin asks, and all our blogs feed onto the wall using Social RSS (though that can be buggy and miss some). It's been running this way about 6 months and so far everyone seems happy.
- Deborah Fitchett
I am the webmaster at our library, and I maintain it and keep it updated. There's others who are administrators, but like others here, no one else touches it. I mostly provide updates via Twitter, so we kill two birds with one stone for the time being.
- Miriella
You all are fantastic. Thank you!
- Joan
In case you want more input, I set ours up and made the Distance Learning Librarian and our Libraries' Marketing Director co-admins. Only the DLL and I really update it, but it's easy and fun and the administration is cool with our judgement.
- Kaijsa Calkins
There are only a few of us, and no one is particularly web 2.0 around here, so, that would be me (the Director). Although, for event content I have it set-up so that the events posted to the website (technically a blog in "website" clothing) get pushed directly to FB and Twitter, so that saves me some work.
- Jessica
One of our reference assistants does it and does a great job too. The page has 200+ fans and is fairly active. http://www.facebook.com/steacie...
- John Dupuis
John, this is my favorite part: "Looking for a job? Lost your dog? Got a dull pain in your arm? We can't help with any of those. Try over at Scott Library."
- Joan
CBC Translator Loses It! - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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nice.
- DJF
My wife's an interpreter, although she never works for the CBC. It'll be interesting to hear what she thinks of this...
- John Dupuis
xkcd on overturning scientific dogma - http://xkcd.com/675/
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I love the phrase "president of physics."
- Christopher Granade
"I mean, what's more likely -- that I have uncovered fundamental flaws in this field that no one in it has ever thought about, or that I need to read a little more? Hint: it's the one that involves less work."
- John Dupuis
trying to figure things out is the right instinct
- Mike Chelen
Ask TLS: I vaguely remember a case where some closed-access publisher requested that figures reproduced from a paper published in one of its journals be removed form the author's website. Might have been Science but I am not sure. Anybody has a link?
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the publisher was Wiley, I believe, and the reproduction was on a blog. When I get out of this meeting I'll try to dig up the details.
- D0r0th34
Bora Zivkovic brings together all the various strands: http://scienceblogs.com/clock...
- John Dupuis
The blogger was Shelley Batts on ScienceBlogs.
- John Dupuis
thanks, folks, I just managed to un-meeting myself a moment ago :)
- D0r0th34
Thanks all!
- Iddo Friedberg
#smallworld Which reminds me that I must chase up the lead Author of a Paper, nay, Manuscript that Shelley, I and two others have yet to finish and submit to BMC. Prof AG in Milan will be hearing from me soon !
- Graham Steel
I'm going to be teaching a 3-credit course that the library offers (Information Research in Social Sciences and Humanities) and am busy now crafting a syllabus for the spring 2010 semester. Any suggestions to this list of terms & concepts I expect students to be conversant with by the end of the semester? Feel free to add to the document....
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Fantastic list. What do you expect them to know or be able to do pertaining to evaluation?
- marthalib
Ditto to Martha's comment, plus perhaps a general 'research ethics' and 'information ethics' heading
- Pete
What Martha and Pete said. What kind of preparation/prerequisites will the students have coming in? Is this a first course, or one for students beginning upper-level study in their majors?
- Catherine Pellegrino
Martha: for evaluation, I want them to have a set of criteria that they can applied depending on the information need they have. So if they need to make sure source is authoritative, they will know how to research who the author is and that author's expertise on a given subject. I'll also emphasize the usual criteria: timeliness (may or may not be important depending on the need), relevance, quality of argument, etc.
- Stephen Francoeur
When we teach this course in the fall, it's mostly all freshman. In the spring, when I'll be teaching it, it will be mostly sophomores and juniors. No pre-reqs.
- Stephen Francoeur
Ah, yes. We assign a similar exercise, but it is tough to get students come up with their own set of evaluation criteria, so I'm looking for suggestions regarding how to do this. I still get students who say, "It is a credible article because it is peer-reviewed" and think that is sufficient.
- marthalib
That looks excellent, then. For the sophomores and juniors, I would definitely include something on what I think of as "the economics of information," which it looks like you're getting at with "publish or perish" and commercial vs. open-access publishing. Something about who owns information, and how money changes hands for the use and access to it.
- Catherine Pellegrino
I'm not thinking so much that the students need to come up with their own criteria but rather that they have an intentional set of criteria that they can selectively apply depending on the context.
- Stephen Francoeur
Martha- I use a clothing analogy to introduce ideas of time and place appropriateness, registers etc
- Pete
Ooooh, I like the clothing analogy. Martha: oops, just saw your other thread...moving my comment there!
- Catherine Pellegrino
Yes, trying not to threadjack :)
- marthalib
Feel free to threadjack, Martha. I like where the conversation is going anyway.
- Stephen Francoeur
I truly don't mean to be a smartass, Stephen, but define "information" and "knowledge"? Seriously? Perhaps in the context of your evaluation criteria above--regarding their particular info need--that's possible. Or is it more like an intro level philosophy course definition in that you can define it in the context of the argument you are critiquing/making? I ask because I am not audacious enough to try & define either of those terms and they are both special areas of interest for me.
- Mar₭ Liŋdŋer
Operational definitions perhaps- one you can use in everyday work, not a fully worked out philopsophically rigorous analysis?
- Pete
Right, that's the short way to put it, Pete. Thanks. But there are so damn many of them and every one is seriously limited, even in an armchair analysis. But then they may be of value in limited domains if not pushed too far. Tis a minor point but wondering what Stephen is going for. All in all, I think this sounds like an excellent course. :D
- Mar₭ Liŋdŋer
if it were me, I think my goal would be to show the fish that they're swimming in water, if you take my meaning. The exact composition of the water is less a concern at that level.
- D0r0th34
Nicely put, D. :D
- Mar₭ Liŋdŋer
More potential terms for the list: primary and secondary sources, evidence, argument, thesis.
- marthalib
Personally, I'd be a lot more interested in seeing how you structure the assignments. It might be interesting, for example, to get them to work on defining the academic discipline they're working on. Lists of terms kind of turn me off, Like D I'm more interested in whether or not the students can take part in a conversation about the nature of scholarly communications in a couple of disciplines. BTW, I think this xkcd is relevant: http://xkcd.com/675/
- John Dupuis
Just had a great conversation with the head of instruction here and am rethinking my overall approach to this course. I'll comment more when I get off the reference desk later this afternoon.
- Stephen Francoeur
Don't forget to take your stuff off Etherpad, if you wish to keep it.
- carolh
Wow, so do your students really know and understand all those concepts by the end of the semester?
- Joan
Joan: Don't know. I haven't taught the course yet (will be doing so for the first time this spring).
- Stephen Francoeur
I'm thinking now more about framing my course less on "how to library" and more on exploring how the process of inquiry and the process of researching what others have said will lead to knowledge or insight or argument. I want them to see how inquiry + research will lead to them to their own point of view. When I get a syllabus put together, I'll share it here.
- Stephen Francoeur
Stephen, that sounds like a good way to go about it.
- s t e v e
Sounds excellent, Stephen!
- Mar₭ Liŋdŋer
Quiet evening on the #refdesk, only real question was on meebo about referencing
my only question so far was one person looking for books that he just looked up in the catalog...and wondered if we had them here...
- Sir Shuping
Yeah, sitting at the ref desk during exams can be just deadly. Only 32 total questions of all types since 9am.
- John Dupuis
that's still better than us...we've got 17 so far
- Sir Shuping
Chip design - http://michaelnielsen.org/blog...
Any help would be much appreciated! My search fu has failed :-(
- Michael Nielsen
At first glance, there's this book: The Pentium chronicles : the people, passion, and politics behind Intel's landmark chips. York, UofT & Ryerson all have it.
- John Dupuis
Also this one, though it's a bit older: Creating the digital future : the secrets of consistent innovation at Intel
- John Dupuis
If you still have access to IEEE Xplore, there's quite a lot in there too. Most of that should be indexed in Google Scholar.
- John Dupuis
John: this is great! Stupidly, I didn't look for books, after wasting the better part of an hour looking for other sources (academic papers, blog posts, other online material). I'm sure there must be stuff in the academic literature, too, maybe the business school literature, but I didn't find the right combination of search terms.
- Michael Nielsen
Validating the Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 microprocessor by Bentley, B. International Conference on Dependable Systems and Networks, 2001.
- John Dupuis
I searched on: ((intel and chip and design)<in>metadata) and floating point bug, mixing and matching.
- John Dupuis
librarian fu FTW!
- Christina Pikas
I also searched on "intel chip [/microprocessor] design" and several variants, in Scholar and several other places. I threw out the results which were testing related, and otherwise found only a few slightly useful tidbits. I should look at the testing ones more closely, methinks. (I threw out the Bentley paper previously).
- Michael Nielsen
"The Pentium Chronicles" looks great! Thankyou, John.
- Michael Nielsen
Have you seen: Inside Intel-coping with complex projects by Bell, S.; Kastelic, T. from the Engineering Management Journal, feb 2001
- John Dupuis
John - that Bell and Kastelic paper is exactly what I was looking for. The vague number I remember from my engineer was 650, so I think the paper is even describing the same project. It's perfect! Thankyou.
- Michael Nielsen
Oh.my.god. What a day. First, dealing with some racist defacement of a plaque in a group study room. Security involved, etc. Then, strange smells from work on the roof of the library, causing some staff to go home or be relocated temporarily. Then, just when that seems resolved, the roofers somehow manage to set fire to the roof.
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Fortunately, very little damage but there was a bit of smoke in the library. Fire alarm went off, evacuated the building, Dealing with fire dept, contractor, health & safety people, and all the rest. We ended up closing for the day and will hopefully be open tomorrow if the H&S people give the ok.
- John Dupuis
Oh yeah, and the university's whole data centre is in the basement of our building.
- John Dupuis
that's quite a day you had! hope tomorrow is better!
- Stephanie_Happy2010!
I'm hoping not to have to go in tomorrow to figure it all out.
- John Dupuis
Wow - sorry to hear all that.Were the strange smells just tar?
- Christina Pikas
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That needs to be a story for the next LSW zine, dude. "A Day in the Life."
- D0r0th34
No, the smells were some sort of solvent they were using to melt & remove some part of the old roof. Later on, they were using a flame thrower to melt another part of the roof and that's what started the fire. Needless to say, all work has been halted.
- John Dupuis
And who was that recently mused about possibly wanting to get into administration....Just say no, Steve!
- John Dupuis
if we can't dissolve the roof, we'll set it on fire!
- Richard Akerman
There's something to be said for taking the *second* lowest quote.
- John Dupuis
Epic! Strangely, this makes me kind of more interested in administration. Also, would love it if you wanted to write it up for the next zine, whenever that happens.
- s t e v e
My favourite moment was when the Fire Dept captain tore the contractor a new one, right there in front of a good portion of univ administrators.
- John Dupuis
It happened again! Roofers set another fire on the roof today! Fortunately, there was even less smoke in the library this time and the fire alarms didn't go off. But still, it was kinda tense for a while there, with lots of facilities, fire prevention and heath & safety people milling about. Most staff relocated to another building for about 90 minutes but we stayed open with no circ and just me making sure everything was ok. Sigh. And to think this is my last day before vacation.
- John Dupuis
And again today! The library was evacuated for a few hours due to a gas leak on the site for the new Life Sciences building. All three have been on Fridays. Also, I think we need to start getting better contractors.
- John Dupuis
John: I can just see the sign on your wall (borrowed from almost any industrial manufacturer, but with slightly different wording): We Have Gone [X] Weeks Without a Roof Fire!
- Walt Crawford
Liaisons. Are you members of the major associations for your liaison areas?
oh heck no. i can barely afford ala they don't pay me enough to try to be with the 5 others one that i do now
- Sir Shuping
I was in ASEE when engineering was my prime responsibility, but that was because they have the librarians' division. otherwise, nope.
- DJF
I am heavily active in the Transportation Research Board. I don't pay dues, but I do committee work and go to their meetings.
- Kendra <3 Three Lions
Nope. Our liaison assignments tend to be somewhat fluid, so I haven't bothered.
- Kirsten
I'm liaison for a bunch of different areas (engineering, comp sci, earth & space science, IT, hist & phil of science/STS) so it's just not practical for me. However, I am in ASEE and I do try and follow the professional publications from the main societies, ie IEEE, ACM, etc.
- John Dupuis
I was looking into the National Business Education Association when the reorg moved us out of liaison roles.
- ÉllbeeÇee
no, but i feel like there's some overlap already, since i'm the Education liaison
- ~Courtney F.
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Unless someone has another idea?
- s t e v e
can't we come up with WANK?
- D0r0th34
lord, honey, I ain't been nubile for YEARS and years.
- D0r0th34
but where's the strategery?
- holly
Strategic Hosts of Information Technology- Holistic Operative team
- Pete
Professional Information Navigators Having Enormous Acronym Disassociation (PINHEAD)
- David Rothman (☤)
Association of Information Professionals Worrying Too Much About Wholly the Wrong Things. (Lame acronym, but I still like it)
- David Rothman (☤)
PINHEAD FTW.
- D0r0th34
Association of Confederated Responsive Ontological Navigators, Your Masters. (ACRONYM)
- David Rothman (☤)
(I got an FTW from Dorothea! Woot!)
- David Rothman (☤)
Knowledge Vanguard of Electronic Learning and Language (KVELL)
- David Rothman (☤)
World Hegemony Achieved in Power Over Words (WHAPOW)
- David Rothman (☤)
Knowledge Veterans Eternally Trying to Change Hats (KVETCH)
- Abigail
[Falls to the floor and worships at Abs' feet, laughing uncontrollably]
- David Rothman (☤)
win :)
- Abigail
The Alliance of Information Leaders Coordinating Holistic Approaches to Sharing Every Record (TAILCHASERs)
- Pete
United Bibliophile Experts Realizing Foolish Ontologies Lose Knowledge (UBERFOLK)
- David Rothman (☤)
The Committee for Ensuring Mediocrity Through Excessive use of Committees?
- David Rothman (☤)
Information Professionals United in Bewilderment over the Behaviors of Professional Associations.
- David Rothman (☤)
Abigail ++++++++++!
- Betsy (bentley) Vera
Backwards Organization of Obvious Knowledge Strategies (BOOKS). That'll send the ASKPro's running for the hills!
- John Dupuis
So far, I like KVETCH and BOOKS best.
- David Rothman (☤)
I think the best would be if someone could come up with a name where the acronym is LIBRARIANS.
- John Dupuis
I want a name where the acronym is THWAP. Just cuz.
- Louise Alcorn
Society of Professional And Naughty Knowledgefolk.
- jambina
Well, Jill, that's why I think it would be funny as a new, more "corporate" name for LSW.
- John Dupuis
BTW, Chris Z. FTW!
- John Dupuis
++++ Abigail and Chris Z
- Christina Pikas
jambina made me giggle :-p
- Abigail
Bureau Of Neverending Knowledge (BONK)
- Louise Alcorn
Librarians Internationally Being Reputable ASKPros, Reacting to Inane Asinine Naming Screwup
- Kathryn says love n peace
I think you go the whole hog and call it 1-800-ASKPro. 'Alone in a new town? Maybe you're at a conference. need company? Then call 1-800-ASKPro. They're hot, discreet, well-referenced and with indexes you'll want to run through again and again.'
- Pete
Pete FTW!
- josh neff, geek at large
"And for some old fashioned comfort, we still have "special" librarians on the books, just waiting to serve you too"
- Kathryn says love n peace
<<<laughing and wheezing at her desk>>
- Connie Crosby
Kathryn + Pete, FTW!
- Louise Alcorn
Nudge
- Abigail
Ha! Thanks Abigail. I thought we'd done this before. And it was my fault before, too.
- s t e v e
I like Knowledge Lovers Association of Professionals. KLAP
- Junebug (aka Sarah Jill)
Society of Humble, Useful Skill Helpers (shush)
- Stephanie_Happy2010!
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and they can be animals online too! :)
- Sir Shuping
Yep, we get the F bomb on chat routinely. Never got it once at the F2F desk.
- Jenny Reiswig
I was once invited to do jello shots with some students. Via IM of course.
- Joan
I'll say it again: y'all have way more interesting students than we do.
- Catherine Pellegrino
I had a meebo session last night that started with "Are you @dupuisj?" "Er, yeah?" Turns out it was a former York student who I'm following on Twitter. Still, a bit disconcerting.
- John Dupuis
You don't have patrons tell you you're awesome to your face? Huh. Maybe that's just me. :P
- josh neff, geek at large
Had any patrons buy you breakfast, Josh? (Me neither.)
- s t e v e
Someone begged me to let him buy me a coffee once. Does that count?
- Miriella
Merry, that doesn't surprise me at all.
- josh neff, geek at large
<threadjack>He was super cute, with a stunning Southern accent. I said no. *sighs and goes off to daydream*</threadjack>
- Miriella
The only surprising thing about Merry's first comment is the "once" part.
- s t e v e
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"True, it appeals to my most basic insecurities, but this new device will ultimately be replaced by a newer device, rendering it completely undesirable and utterly repellent to my personal tastes," device-enthusiast Ryan Janosch said. "Also, I should start saving my money for the next latest device, which will replace the newer new device a couple months after that." (via Seb Paquet)
- John Dupuis
Yeah, Im listening to Styx's The Grand Illusion......what of it?
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nothing wrong with a bit of Styx from time to time
- Steve
I was singing this around the house the other day and was told to stop.
- s t e v e
The Grand Illusion was one of my favourite albums when it first came out. I still remember buying it.
- John Dupuis
I *loved* Styx back in the day. srsly.
- Stephanie_Happy2010!
They jumped the shark with Cornerstone, if you ask me.
- John Dupuis
Need suggestions... My company is doing a toy drive and needs gifts for kids 6-18 but have asked specifically for stuff for the older kids (13-18). I can't think of anything besides books and I know that kids would think that's boring. Anyone have any good ideas for $25 or less?
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I like using Amazon's most popular features for toys with age ranges, gives at least some sense of what people are buying. 13-18 though, I have no idea since toys are generally out at that point.
- mikepk
How about a board game or a Lego set?
- Trish R
look at thinkgeek.com. some of those would be perfect for immature males. (yeah I like the stuff way too much and I'm immature most of the time.)
- CW™
For girls, how about tote bags/small purses? You can get pretty nice purses at Target for under $25!
- Rochelle
Booze!
- Christian (Simply X)
gift cards? I
- Shevonne
Just as an example.. Science and destruction at the same time.. http://www.thinkgeek.com/geektoy...
- CW™
Lots of malls have gift cards and up here the mall owners do. That way a gift card might be usable at any store in one of 4 or 5 malls.
- Kenton
Keep in mind with gift cards that for some kids (especially if you're helping a more rural area), getting to the store isn't an easy task. If they don't have involved adults in their life to take them to the store, they may not be able to easily use the cards.
- Rochelle
plastic bags and model glue?
- Morgan Haley
Nerf stuff...a soccer ball...a good board game
- Alex Scoble
Morgan, that's pretty inappropriate.
- Rochelle
I usually add art supplies to my toy drive shopping lists. A couple of nice sketch pads and some pencils and paints (not oil).
- vicster is...
The holiday drives here won't accept gift cards because of the reasons Rochelle gave about not having transportation, or they don't have access to a computer to shop online, so make sure that's an option.
- Trish R
Ok, sorry. How about tickle-me-elmos for all?
- Morgan Haley
Books are ok, but you might want to get graphic novels instead of other fiction or non-fiction.
- John Dupuis
Oh, I like the graphic novel idea... But most of the stuff I read is for "adults". What's a good series (and I mean good writing/art/story... I don't want stuff like Pokemon) for kids that age? I know "Bone" might be good... any other suggestions?
- Lindsay is in 20-ten
@vicster - I like the art supplies idea too...The stuff that inspires is what I'm going for.
- Lindsay is in 20-ten
Bone is good. Sandman, Fable, a few others. You might want to drop by a local comic shop to get suggestions. Anything by Alan Moore.
- John Dupuis
Another thing for the girls (and the boys, if that's what they want) could be little manicure sets or fun colored nail polish. I like the art supplies idea, too. Some might like empty journal books and fun colored pens or pencils.
- Katy S
Twilight posters?
- CW™
Those handheld electronic games maybe. I'm with John on the graphic novels. There are some great ones out there. Cheap digital cameras.
- Junebug (aka Sarah Jill)
Amazon gift card? Oh nevermind
- Rodfather
As far as books go, Little Brother by Cory Doctorow is a real winner.
- John Dupuis
@John - I love Sandman, Fable and most stuff by Alan Moore (like Promethea) but unfortunately I think that's a little bit too intense for most kids age 13-15... There is definitely some stuff in those that would be over their heads, too violent, or too suggestive. I haven't let my (almost) 13 year old read ours so I don't feel comfortable giving that to others. Bone is good because it has a great story, great art work, and nothing inappropriate in it. I wish I was aware of more series like that...
- Lindsay is in 20-ten
Do not buy anything that relies on a need to have a computer (like a digital camera). Toy drives are done to help the poor, and many of them do not have computers and the ones that do, may have ones quite old and obsolete, lacking card readers and/or USB. Radios are usually good, but try to stay away from anything that requires batteries because even if you include a pack, once they die...
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- April Russo (app103)
Did they give you any clothing sizes? Socks and underwear, while boring, are always a good Christmas gift for people of any age. Although the batteries would eventually die, some handheld games like 20Q seem to last forever (I think my kids got those games two or three years ago, and they're still running on the original batteries). If you can assume that the kids have VHS or DVD players, movies are always good, too.
- Curtiss Grymala
Graphic novel-wise, I don't think you can go wrong with the usual Avengers, X-Men, Hulk and Batman. There're some great collections out there. This is a gift, not a lesson in comics artistry.
- Rob Haas
I have girls and that list can go on and on. Pretty notebooks, totes, hair thingies, accessories... Boys? We got a basketball for boyfriend.
- R1CC1
Sephora or Aeropostale come to mind for the 13-18 year old girls...boys, GameStop.
- Pete Delucchi
$25 is really less..
- ★ Soner Gönül
I am there with the Graphic Novels idea - Fables! Back Packs or have you thought about a small mp3 player? most likely they or a friend has computer access...
- Robyn Hawk
@Soner - I was planning on picking up at least 2 or 3 things... This is not my main financial focus for the holiday, I can't really afford more than $75... Besides, not knowing for sure that what I will contribute will go to an age-appropriate recipient, it's kind of hard to justify getting something worth more than $25. For example, I don't want to buy a quality set of colored pencils...
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@Rob - I didn't say it had to be a lesson in comics artistry, but wouldn't it be nice to inspire a kid instead of just grabbing first silly comic I come across? Honestly, the stories in most of the Marvel series are so warmed over and formulaic now... I'd rather get them something that they might not have been exposed to yet that might broaden their horizons, if I have a choice (considering most graphic novels cost about the same, why not go with quality?). Just thought of another good one: Coraline.
- Lindsay is in 20-ten
@mrgunn I'd put him pretty squarely in the comp sci camp.
Computer scientists are the fifth column in libraries...
- Richard Akerman
librarians are the fifth column in computer science
- D0r0th34
In my experience, CS people have been both among the most open and welcoming on the one hand and on the other hand, the most oddly aggressively anti-library. Fortunately, there aren't really any of the later at mpow. At least not to my face ;-)
- John Dupuis
one suspects they've had to deal with a few (or more than a few) anti-CS librarians
- D0r0th34
I'm not anti-librarian, and I don't know about anti-CS librarians... but I have spent part of my undergraduate years struggling to find what I was l was looking for. It looked to me like the librarians made sure it was difficult by sticking with archaic software. As recently as 2004, CISTI had user interfaces from hell. Then came tools like Google Scholar and I was "liberated". I don't...
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- Daniel Lemire
He's got a good point about archaic interfaces. Seems to me like some of the tortuous processes one is required to go through is partly due to the byzantine licensing agreements that are more or less forced on libraries. Open Access FTW!
- Mr. Gunn
I'm not sure Google Scholar got special licensing agreements. What they did however is build their own tools and crawlers.
- Daniel Lemire
Google Scholar absolutely does arrange for license to crawl scholarly publishers, Daniel. Mr. Gunn, yes, grotesque agreements are part of the problem.
- D0r0th34
@Daniel What do you think about CISTI Discover http://discover-decouvrir.cist...
- Richard Akerman
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Is there some sort of index for all of the available resources that librarian use in order to do their jobs? I know...uh, Lexis/Nexis and um...Webster's Dictionary.
- Derrick
You'll find out about some of it during your MLS, but most of it you pick up on the job or otherwise find out from others and create your own index.
- Sarah G.
No Derrick. You'll learn many of the standard ones in library school, but other than that, you learn on the job. So I know the things that my library offers, but other than that... no much of a clue.
- Imitation lris
Also, this is Steve making the rest of us look bad. ;-)
- Imitation lris
In the UK CILIP (ALA equiv) produce Walford's Guide and an A-Z of useful ref desk sources
- Pete
Yep (as in "yep, we mostly know just what our institutions have, plus a few big things by reputation"). If you are a real go-getter you can probably google most stuff to at least find out what it is, if not actually see it first hand.
- s t e v e
And my normal rule is no same-day classes, but this is just a quick RefWorks demo/brush-up and I need the stats.
- s t e v e
Much to learn, there is.
- Derrick
Ah, so they meant, "20 mins from now, can you come talk to my class about RefWorks," not "can you come spend 20 mins in my class talking about RefWorks at some later date." Impressive.
- Catherine Pellegrino
But really what you need to know depends on the job :) As a public librarian that could be *anything* but a working knowledge of government and not-for-profit info sources, genealogy sites and home improvement info should see you through ;)
- Pete
Yeah, but you apparently got the karaoke part down, so you got that going for you, which is nice.
- Sarah G.
Also, that *perking your ears up* thing is really handy, too. ;)
- Catherine Pellegrino
Steve- I have a similar rule, but if I am free then I do it.
- Pete
Derrick, that's why there's a degree. (Though really, it took me a few years in this job to feel competent, since there's so much to learn on the job.)
- Imitation lris
Also, Derrick- this is what the LSW is for- amongst other things- ask here and someone is likely to know :)
- Pete
I've got that same day rule too. Mostly because I try to make sure each session is specific to the class and what the students are working on. I can't plan that in 10 minutes. But for something like that, I'd probably do what you did. I'm trying to help train our faculty here to plan ahead. It's not something they've really had to do before, but it's so much better if they do and I think they're seeing the end result is more effective that a slap-and-dash job.
- Junebug (aka Sarah Jill)
And Derrick, there's so much variation in what we do that nobody's indexes would be the same, and some wouldn't even resemble each other. At least in my experience in big academic libraries, we tend to specialize *a lot*. Which is one of the things I love about it.
- Jàson Puçkett
Yay! Thanks, all. I really appreciate all of this. I need to start volunteering. I'll call that lady today.
- Derrick
It is also very helpful to know where the restrooms are.
- laura x
A lot of working as a librarian is improvisational, and most of us could do a quick talk like that about something we know well.
- DJF
Exactly!
- Junebug (aka Sarah Jill)
Being a librarian is a bit like being a civil servant (UK)- you have a portfolio, you develop intense knowledge of it- and then you move to another portfolio and start again ;)
- Pete
Ha, I like that a lot, Pete. Sums up my last few years and projected next few years nicely.
- Jàson Puçkett
My introvert does better with less time to worry, Cecily. But she gets through it even with time to prep and then gets jazzed from it. :)
- ÉllbeeÇee
I cover RefWorks in pretty well every IL class I do. There's nothing like the moment at the end when I get a student to time me with a stop watch while I generate the bibliography in Word. "So, how long did that take?" "12 seconds." "So, you're in bed at 3:00:12am instead of 3:30."
- John Dupuis
I'm stealing that, John.
- Jàson Puçkett
Hunh, I always cover RefWorks just on its own because it always seems like it takes too long to cover to put it in with other things.
- s t e v e
What I do when I start is introduce it very briefly, then at a couple of points during the demo I mention casually, "oh, remember refworks? this is how we get books/articles/whatever into it so we can remember them later" The end part in word only takes a few minutes. I also like to have a "big finish" in the probably mistaken belief that anything that leaves any sort of library/librarian impression has got to be a good thing.
- John Dupuis
Smart. I'm gonna have to think about that.
- s t e v e
Initially, I only covered refworks in a session if the prof requested. Over time, I got a bit more used to integrating it into the rest of the session. It did take me a while to get comfortable replacing 5-8 minutes of other stuff with RW.
- John Dupuis
Reminds me of the talk I did on FF plugins for staff at my library. I got girlish snickers from the Assistant Director and my boss when I pasted a bibliography into Word using Zotero, got "wows" from the crowd, and I said how rewarding it is to make mothers go "Wow!"
- Eric Sizemore
RefWorks gets a plug in every session I do - 1. we spend money on it, 2. it's really handy, 3. it's really easy, & 4. the "ooooh" factor... I don't time the Bibliography, I just do it & ask if anyone could do it faster with less work :)
- awd
Google says librarians are... on Flickr - Photo Sharing! - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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Librarians are cool heroes that are hiding something weird every day.
- John Dupuis
Certainly fits with my experience ;-)
- Mr. Gunn
Someone should submit that to http://googlelolz.com/
- Peter Murray
I've been thinking about something I might like to do in the new year. I'm thinking of putting together a book of essays by LSW folks and publishing it on Lulu. This would be in a more serious or "professional" vein than the zine, but still open to personal or informal essays. I haven't settled on a theme yet, but I'm thinking the writing prompt...
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...might be something like "what are you passionate or excited about in libraries right now?" I'd love to include some pieces on technology, services, management, instruction, and whatever else (that's just off the top of my head), and ideally an essay about LSW itself.
- Jàson Puçkett
I would probably publish a PDF version for free and a paperback edition for inexpensive, and I'd like to creative commons license the whole thing. I have never tried anything like this before, but I think it would be exciting, interesting, and fun. Would anyone be interested in contributing a piece if I went ahead? This isn't a commitment on either part, just a feeler.
- Jàson Puçkett
I'd be happy to do something, if only to ensure there's a W in LSW ;)
- Pete
I'll think about it. I'd have to give some thought to what exactly I'm excited about right now (!) and I might wind up re-working a blog post. Would that be OK? (Oh, and I'd be totally down with CC-licensing.)
- Catherine Pellegrino
I like the idea! Not sure if the muse would strike me to write a contribution, but I'd like to contribute.
- josh neff, geek at large
Yes of course, Catherine. I'm still thinking about that question myself :) since I'd probably want to put my money where my mouth is and write something to go into it.
- Jàson Puçkett
And the idea came from this collection that I read a few months ago: http://www.worldcat.org/oclc... -- I was like, hey, we could totally do that.
- Jàson Puçkett
I'm down.
- s t e v e
Oh my stars, you librarian folk are fascinating with your zines and your writing and your publishing. I'm kicking myself for waiting so long to coming to this conclusion.
- Derrick
Heh. If I didn't know better, I'd think Derrick was being sarcastic.
- s t e v e
Derrick, when you joint the cult.. sorry, profession... we'll show you the fun stuff.
- Pete
*jumps up and down*
- Derrick
Guys- we need to start doing some fun stuff, so Derrick doesn't feel let down.
- Pete
Yeah, depending on how you feel about conference binge drinking, this may be as good as it gets.
- s t e v e
Jason, make sure that Rochelle sees this. She had an idea months and months ago about something for an LSW "White Paper." I don't recall if it fits your proposed theme, though.
- s t e v e
I've heard about y'all's conferences... o_O
- Derrick
Excellent!
- laura x
Ah yes, Derrick. 'Paperback Mountain' I must say my conference experiences have always been sedate. Karaoke aside- them, not me, I add.
- Pete
Pete, I tend to get up with the roosters, which means I also fall asleep when the street lights come on. :(
- Derrick
Well, that fits most librarian patterns. And really, you've not seen ugly until you've seen a room of dancing librarians.
- Pete
Dancing archivists are right up there, Pete: http://friendfeed.com/laurabo...
- LB - all new for '10!
Will I ruin the demographic? I'm actually a pretty good dancer?
- Derrick
You'll just shift the curve. Which sounds like a dance move.
- Pete
Pete and Derrick have not seen Iris dance, clearly.
- Jàson Puçkett
Oh I *know* Iris can dance. To every rule, an exception
- Pete
Despite my iffy status with LSW (self-imposed, to be sure), I'd probably contribute. Fortunately, although Lulu does now impose a charge for PDFs ($1.25?), the charge is waived if the price is $0, so that works. (I'd volunteer to do the book layout/production, but you're probably at least as qualified to do that, Jason.)
- Walt Crawford
Huh. I remember that I have an idea, but damned if I can remember what it was. Will think on it.
- Rochelle Rochelle
Just don't let Steve do the typesetting. He'll put it all in Comic Sans.
- laura x
Except for Laura's essay which will be in Zapf Dingbats.
- s t e v e
I do so like hanging out with people who know what a dingbat really is.
- DJF
Whereas I would never use Comic Sans. There are some kid's-handwriting typefaces that are MUCH more appropriate. And there's one where letters are formed out of lightning bolts that would do nicely for subheadings in the more serious articles.
- Walt Crawford
Well, you're the consummate professional, Walt. We all know that.
- josh neff, geek at large
Wait, so I *shouldn't* use Comic Sans? Dammit. Back to the drawing board.
- Jàson Puçkett
Wingding me please.
- Joe
I vastly prefer Comic Serif.
- s t e v e
I was going to go AAAAAUUUUUUUGH, but actually, that font doesn't suck.
- D0r0th34
The science blogging community puts out a collection of blog posts every year and publishes it on Lulu: http://www.lulu.com/coturnix1 People nominate posts and there's a jury that picks the winners. I was on the jury a couple of years ago and it was a great experience. Bora Zivkovic is the series editor. Here's the final call for this year's: http://scienceblogs.com/clock...
- John Dupuis
Serif <3
- Kirsten
Hmm. Comic Serif is way too heavy for body text, but otherwise, what Dorothea sez: It doesn't suck (at least not any more than Rockwell does--and "bouncy version of Rockwell" is a good description).
- Walt Crawford
I am a Rockwell fan. I always feel like someone is watching me choose typefaces.
- s t e v e
Also, just to reiterate, great idea Jason, and I would love to help/contribute.
- s t e v e
I'm really glad so many of you guys are into it. Expect to hear more from me on this after new year's.
- Jàson Puçkett
I'min, too
- awd
I still don't remember what Steve remembers, but I've been kicking around a topic with a friend. Looking forward to hearing more.
- Rochelle Rochelle
Heh, sorry I got no details. It was a while ago, back when we were hanging out in the Meebo room every day. It had something to do with reference and public services--a real thing, not a jokey thing. But yeah, probably let that go and think about the new thing you were kicking around. I guess I was just mostly thinking that at the time I'd thought it was a good idea to try and do something a little more serious, if informal, in the name of the LSW.
- s t e v e
I'd be interested in helping/doing something with this!! :)
- Abigail
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