John F Morton

I say Nay as well. Wish it was YAY. - Gary Bacon II

sure hope so! - Vikrum J. Singh

Nay. - Louis Gray

Nay - Susan Beebe

Come bet on it. ;) http://www.thestandard.com/pre... - Cyndy

in 2008? it's almost over and no one's hardly even talking about it, even PC users (although I quite like it). Nay - Dori Fern

I say Nay. - Joey Gibson

i love you. - Zee from WeDoCreative

Nice idea. I've sorta gotten to used to doing the math and saying GMT +- etc, though. (get off my lawn) - Michael W. May

So had we - and we hated every minute of it. - Alexander Kohlhofer

oh - and I love you, too :) - Alexander Kohlhofer

Nice and simple although you could already do this by inviting people to a meeting in, for example, Outlook. It doesn't do recurring appointments, as far as I could tell. Recurrence is where you need something like this. - Jim Hawkins

we have just rolled out a nice update.. New features, more locations, better interface... - Alexander Kohlhofer

I'm not sure how this works... so I set up several timezones and I want to link to that configuration so I can check times later... where is the url/link for me to do that? Or am I using it wrong? - Lindsay Donaghe

oh... hmm, maybe I get it now... so it's not for you to check what time it is now, but for you to mark a particular point in time. That's cool, but I'd like to be able to set up my timezones so that I can come to the home page (or a url permalink) that shows the current time so I can tell if, say, it's too late in the evening to call my Grandmother who lives 2 timezones away. - Lindsay Donaghe

it remembers your settings automatically (for your computer). If somebody sends you a link it will display that time in your time zones. If you sent a link from yours it will be shown to them in their time zones. - Alexander Kohlhofer

yeah, definitely with you there Lindsay...i actually asked everyone if they knew anything like that a while back and there were a few suggestions..see here: http://friendfeed.com/e/854434... - Zee from WeDoCreative

Update again - I guess it must store those in cookies... looks like they were there when I came back to the page. So in that case a couple of feature suggestions, be able to choose different configs (say I have AZ, Central and Pacific because that's where my family lives, but another one for AZ, London, Sydney and Dallas where my business contacts are...). Also, be able to add a note or description to the zone so it would say "Central - Dad, Grandma, Uncle Norm" or something and be easy to spot... - Lindsay Donaghe

if you go to permatime.com it does just that. It shows you the current time across all your time zones :) - Alexander Kohlhofer

true - if you save the create permatime url as a bookmark...it's a great way to quickly go and insert any time in a particular place... - Zee from WeDoCreative

Any chance for those other suggestions, Alexander? - Lindsay Donaghe

Allowing custom labels is definitely on our list. I am not so sure about some more clock like features as there are plenty of good world time clocks out there. Permatime is all about sharing points in time - a definitive need with no good solution - till now ;) - Alexander Kohlhofer

We added custom labels a little while back. We have just added drag and drop, and easier date entry for the week ahead. For the keen or geekily-inclined, there's an indication how to construct your own permatime urls at http://permatime.com/about - Tim Diggins

I love snark. - Chris White

Do layoffs mean you maybe hired more full-timers than you should have? Perhaps the time is right for us all to become consultants. - Daniel J. Pritchett

Don't they need someone to deliver pizzas? - Mona N.

Daniel: TiVo's headcount has remained pretty steady over time. There are a lot of companies more deserving of the 'you hired too quickly and now you pay the price' snark than TiVo is. This is a sad day for TiVo and many of my friends who work there. - Kevin Fox

I ♡ TiVo. We have two, including a Series 1 and an HD. They pioneered this market and should have gotten much bigger than they have. Great product. - Louis Gray

Louis, I feel the same way. There are just a handful of products / services that are in the same class as TiVo in my book. - Mike Doeff

The problem TiVo ran into (and WebTV also) was that the cable/satellite companies control everything. Once they partnered with companies with better UIs, they created internal projects to build their own DVRs, and then ended the partnerships. Getting a box from your provider became the default compared to getting a 3rd party product. It's an unfortunate reality of business that there are strategic issues beyond user experience that determine success. It's the primary reason we haven't seen an Apple DVR. - Chris White

But we have seen an Apple phone, and arguably the situation is pretty similar there. - ⓞnor

@nor, Apple negotiated a great deal with AT&T, as far as wireless contracts go, but they still had to sign a 5-year exclusive. The cable market in particular is different because it's regional, which just becomes a huge convoluted mess. Better luck will probably come from using broadband than trying to navigate the cable twisty passages. - Chris White

@nor: By that analogy, is Android the generic mobile provider's alternative? - Kevin Fox

Tivo made it impossible for me to cancel my account with them a few years back (no option on their website, even though I had added by cc# there, and an intolerably long wait on the phone). My credit card was about to expire, so I figured it wasn't a problem (just a few extra months of billing), but then they continued to charge me even after the card expired (the new card had the same number with a different expiration date). Anyway, I don't feel too sorry for them, and I don't plan to buy from them ever again. - Paul Buchheit

Paul, the credit card companies are funny about these recurring charges. Even after I've changed numbers on the same account for fraud reasons, I've continued to get recurring charges from some companies. Luckily I've never had a problem with TiVo because I bought out the contract and then gave it away to someone. - Chris White

:( - Josh Haley

Just one more useless commodity that needed to bite the dust as soon as home DVR'ing with traditional services was implemented. - tony

I'm kind of surprised at the antipathy I'm seeing here for TiVo. I can understand if their CS department somehow slighted you, but I have not had that experience and I have owned 4 separate TiVo's over the years, some with lifetime subscriptions. Bottom line, the TiVo has the easiest, most powerful platform for scheduling recordings and watching TV that I have ever used. At the very least, I would hope that Scientific Atlanta, etc., would take notes but almost everything else out there is crap (cont'd) - Phil Glockner

Ah, the company that singlehandedly screwed the ad business :) - Patricia

comparatively. TiVo has fought and scraped for so long on a completely slanted playing field, and they are a true underdog. I'm glad that projects like MythTV are starting to mature, and perhaps that is the future of television, but for now I will stick to my Series3. - Phil Glockner

I wasn't snarking, just curious about business models. - Daniel J. Pritchett via fftogo

Phil, my comments weren't antipathy. I thought TiVo did a great job on user experience. What I was saying was they didn't have a strategic business advantage, and that is often what is necessary for long term success. - Chris White

people have always been afraid of technology that was new at the time - radio, nuclear power, cars, you name it. - Joelle Nebbe

whenever people have to burn energy that comes not from a wish within them...they try to avoid it. age does not matter at all. if my 2year old daughter dont see it as benefitial to change diaper she would not want to do so. - Chris Hofmann

Get off my lawn! - Bwana

wait, wait, who really "invents" in technology? The old stinky monkeys or the young stupid folks with acne vulgaris? :) - directeur via NoiseRiver

Seems there's a point where the effort made to "catch up" becomes too overwhelming. I know nothing about cars and I'm at the point in my life where I'd rather pay someone else to deal with it than climb up the learning curve to do basic things. That may tie into age, and I might not look on this as "old fogeys" being scared of change, but just not having the time. - Jason Kaneshiro

Good points all around, but the best is the idea that stuff doesn't go mainstream until people are comfortable with it. - Tom Landini