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Seesmic, Friendfeed and Twitter next to each other in a test version of Twhirl. Adding tons of Friendfeed experience improvements in there, Marco rocks.
Nicholas James, Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah, Wins Fern and 95 other people liked this
I love this version. And Seesmic in Twhirl is so addictive
- Loic Le Meur
nice improvements Loic!! bring it on!!
- Susan Beebe
can't wait - gimme more ;o)
- Marco Sascha Sven Hoppe
from twhirl
very interesting. The friendfeed integration looks way better than before. Will have to give this a look when it is released.
- Rob Diana
Seesmic ROCKS!!
- Larry
from twhirl
okay, so FF and Twitter are in the latest? but not Seemic correct?
- Lou Paglia
This might get me back into Twhirl.
- Akiva Moskovitz
and it has FF rooms support!
- Loic Le Meur
The question is when ?
- Gilles Meiers
from twhirl
wow, looks great. remind me http://twitku.com/ for a second there...
- Orli Yakuel
looks very cool. exactly what we need. but what about plurk ;)
- Phil Coyne
from twhirl
needs pownce and jaiku support too. Then it will be the total solution
- Adrian
from twhirl
yes... when?
- Mike Wills
@LouPaglia - correct, Seesmic is not integrated with Twirl desktop app yet
- Susan Beebe
in a few days I think for the new FF integration. Seesmic comes next.
- Loic Le Meur
from twhirl
Super! When!??!
- Florin Grozea
from twhirl
looks like it might replace alert thingy as my RIA of choice
- Steve Lynch
from Alert Thingy
Great ! Thanks
- Gilles Meiers
from twhirl
integrate into one window, is all i ask, make it indisputably the best
- Ruben Llibre
none of them working in linux TOO BAD!
- Yassin Alvandi
Is twitter's api actually back up at 50 req/hr?
- Shawn Farner
The old Twhirl works for me in linux for me, it just won't remember my password.
- Daniel E. Renfer
from twhirl
Yes Marco does. Twhirl is becoming my info hub. And if Twitter dies, who cares I'm sure Pownce, Jaiku or whatever could be swapped in
- Tris Hussey
from twhirl
so is seesmic cool now?
- Soulhuntre
from twhirl
How do we score the test ver? :)
- Soulhuntre
from twhirl
You tease. Where do I download it?
- Rafe Needleman
Cannot wait, big Guy!
- ledretch
I want... When?
- highcenter
from twhirl
Can't wait!!
- Danish Khan
from twhirl
actually it will be pushed in an hour or two
- Loic Le Meur
from twhirl
Can't wait!
- Tris Hussey
from twhirl
Nice teasing. Do you have any release date or will you take the "it's done when it's done" side?
- Romain Péchard
from twhirl
I would love some "best practices" guide for how to get the most out of all that information that will be flooding in.
- Brendan Cosgrove
from twhirl
How do I add my Seesmic account into Twhirl 082? It's not showing up in the "accounts" list.
- Rafe Needleman
from twhirl
We should have a Twhirl + Seesmic preview in the very next days
- Loic Le Meur
from twhirl
wait, what exactly is the difference between Twhirl and Seesmic? I thought Seesmic was replacing Twhirl...
- Piero Ardizone
This looks awesome!
- Svartling
I think this what im looking for!
- Michael Scott
Wow nice work, I really like the improvements made :)
- Jeunelle Foster
awesome!
- barbarars
wow - one of the furthest back boomerang ff threads i've seen
- mike "glemak" dunn
nice!
- .LAG liked that
Wow, this is pretty old. I got excited for a second, thought Loic had seen the light and was starting to care about Twhirl again. NOPE.
- Shawn Farner
BackupUrl.com - Create a cached copy of any url! - http://backupurl.com/
Brandon Titus, Seth Greenblatt, Chris Weige and 18 other people liked this
"The First Instant URL Caching Service!"
- Leandro Ardissone ⍨
from Bookmarklet
very useful to save a web page before it is taken down
- TrafficBug
Post cool friendfeed advanced searches here:
Horst Gutmann, Anand Sharma, cihanergur and 84 other people liked this
More than 400 likes: http://friendfeed.com/search... (only one item).
- Robert Scoble
Items with word sex in title with more than 20 likes: http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Robert Scoble
Items with word "bacon" in title with more than 20 likes: http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Robert Scoble
400 comments, 300 likes, one item: http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Tyler (Chacha)
Items with word "awesome" in them that have more than 20 likes: http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Robert Scoble
comments: 13 likes: 37, making 1337 posts: http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Tyler (Chacha)
How much do we like our economy? http://friendfeed.com/search... or http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Michael Forian
The item with the most comments can't be read by me, buttressing Robert's "FriendFeed is worldwide" argument: http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Ontario Emperor
You can see all the items that someone likes and comments on. Here's all the items that Dave Winer has both "liked" and "commented" on: http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Robert Scoble
Lots of "pissed off" titles: http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Robert Scoble
Meta: Items which have "friendfeed" in the title and more than 40 likes - there are a LOT of them. http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Brian Roy
Free Today (likes:3+, comments:2+) http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Micah Wittman
Want to track any of these searches as a persistent feed you can subscribe to in your reader, and get new results as they happen? Just add "&format=atom" (without the quotes) to the end of the search URL, et violå! :-) A tasty feed for your aggregator.
- Josh Bancroft
Meta: Items with the word "twitter" in the title and more than 40 likes - still a LOT of them. http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Brian Roy
And my last contribution: Everyone Dave Winer has Hugged: http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Brian Roy
Interesting Social Media search: http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Lee Stacey
All posts with 10 or more likes: http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Robert Scoble
Ego search for Louis Gray (excludes his posts, plus items he's commented on and/or liked) - http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Ontario Emperor
Just realized it would be great to have a range for likes... I wanted to an "eclectic" stuff I Liked search... but you can only search for stuff with more than X likes or X comments...
- Brian Roy
Inspiration, with 10+ likes: http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Christopher Galtenberg
We still need more features for managing, analyzing, filtering, manipulating, visualizing and getting a handle on Friendfeed search results. I would like to see a single hard number for the total results at the top of the results. List view of results. Multi-column list view of results. Incremental searching/filtering on results (quick views on sub-results). Calendar/date navigation through results. Sorting results by various criteria, including number of comments and likes. Etc.
- Sean McBride
I'd like to see the option to search on anything *apart* from your feed. That'll be useful.
- Kol Tregaskes
Kol, the GOOG does that.
- atul abraham
from twhirl
Can someone translate this? http://friendfeed.com/e/e6b9c4... Just curious, it's the only non-english post with more than 200 likes.
- bnoise
Items with 50+ likes, containing a misspelling of the word "the" (teh) http://friendfeed.com/search...
- April Russo (app103)
Food porn: http://friendfeed.com/search...
- James
video searches http://friendfeed.com/e...
- David Lynch
The Daily Dish | By Andrew Sullivan (November 05, 2008) - Prop 8 Exit Polls - http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_dai...
Cheryl, Melissa, AJ Kohn and 4 other people liked this
"They show a narrow victory for marriage equality: 52 to 48. Every ethnic group supported marriage equality, except African-Americans, who voted overwhelmingly against extending to gay people the civil rights once denied them: a staggering 69 - 31 percent African-American margin against marriage equality. That's worse than even I expected. Whites, on the other hand, clearly rejected discrimination: 55 to 45 percent. Latinos were evenly split. But what matters, of course, is the margin of all the votes. It's still an exit poll, and those polls sometimes under-estimate anti-gay sentiment. So no assurance. But some provisional hope. If marriage endures in California, this debate is over - in America and the world. Oh, and there was no gender gap. And a massive generation gap: the under-30s voted for marriage equality by 67 to 31 percent. The over 65s voted for discrimination by 57 - 43 percent."
- Jason Toney
from Bookmarklet
I'm so disappointed. I'm so disappointed that on a day when the promise of America -- our right to vote, our right to be anything we dream and work hard to be -- was realized that we chose to increase discrimination and deny the civil rights of other citizens, many of whom share our skin color, our struggle, our journey. Boo.
- Jason Toney
This is sad but I feel like it will happen eventually. We've got work to do.
- AJ Kohn
@Jason Toney: I can't remember who it was, but I once read a quote by someone who said (and I paraphrase): "No one has a problem with homosexuals until they have to imagine what they do in the bed room." I'd add that I'd have a problem with what a lot of people do in their bed rooms.
- MASTER OF THE OBVIOUS
This makes my heart so heavy. I'm having a hard time processing the elation and the heavy heartedness at the same time. Unfortunately the heavy heartedness is starting to win. I mean damn, just damn.
- Michelle Jones
I have faith that we will get to where we need to be. Black churches and the Mormon church and their laser focus on this issue is troublesome but can be overcome. We have seen what the power of the people can be when motivated with a well run and focused political machine.
- Jason Toney
Search the term "gay" in Google. Just do it.
Chris Nixon, Mathew A. Koeneker, Ray Grieselhuber and 22 other people liked this
Funny. Colorful.
- Mohamed J
surprising!
- Jon-Paul Bussoli
Awesome. With innovation like this, I think Google could be really big someday.
- Chris Baskind
I hope we don't start seeing things like that everywhere. And if we do, I hope CustomizeGoogle can get rid of them.
- Jake (aka Jawee)
from twhirl
I can never seem to get over how awesome Google is
- Steve Isaacs
That's excellent!
- John F Morton
Oh that's the best thing ever.
- Carla Thompson
that's great.
- Brian Ries
@Brandon, at least you get ads. Googling "black" doesn't return any ads at all. However we are told a related search is "black jokes." Well, at least there's no ads for fried chicken 'n malt liquor. Progress! (raises Black Power fist)
- Karim
Pretty. 8-)
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
As an exclusively hetero guy, I'd like to say this is kinda cool. :)
- ha3rvey, not a sweetheart
great, although now "gay" is in my google web history. hope my family never sees that.
- Chris Harris
I didn't get it at first, then after reading the comments I disabled Adblock.
- Vezquex: God of FF
love it!
- Danielle
beautiful
- raincloudcat
aww, that is cute. I like that. they need to do that for some other searches @Brandon, agreed about the ad content, but I love that rainbow, that's nice.
- Kamilah Gill
yes, it is darling.
- edythe
I searched for "straight" and... nothing. :-)
- Louis Gray
@Brandon W: didn't notice that. yeah, not so great. not to plug, but you're not supposed to see that on Yahoo! search. because we don't consider "gay" by itself an adult term. and...Karim strikes again.
- edythe
All results are duplicates.
- TranceMist
As the only Gay in the Village (whoever gets that reference gets a virtual kiss), I find the rainbow flag pretty obnoxious. In fact, I burned one once in some frakin performance piece. But that's just me. BTW how did I miss this thread?
- Rick Powell
They do it for other stuff too, i saw a link off Google saying why they use the colours and other stuff.
- Nicholas James
Twitter Support email confirms that there's a "cap" on the number of people you can follow now. Screen cap of email. - http://twitpic.com/5flr/full
Dimitar Vesselinov, John F Morton, Mitchell Tsai and 10 other people liked this
That's going to mess with Scoble's idea that it is more important who you are following, than who follows you.
- Douglas E. Welch
from twhirl
It messes with *my* idea of that too!! I think it was Francine who told @scobleizer at the HMB meetup about this and he didn't believe they would do it - thought it was a rumor. I wish he had been right. It's moronic!!
- Lucretia Pruitt
I feel Twitter is handling this all wrong...there was no warning...no rules...and there seems to be different caps for different people...i feel like a whiny 5 year old...but....it's not fair! lol...
- Laura
That's my problem with it too, Laura - they seem to have 'raised' my cap, but I know that there were others with same issue... like @creativesage - and it shouldn't be a stealth thing. Why should some users get to follow 10k and some not? b/c they already did? unsound logic :(
- Lucretia Pruitt
serves 'yall right. you started picking on me and my feeds and now you r stuck with a fascist service. don't say I didn't warn 'yall. have fun. I like it here so much better. I still see twitter coming in as virtual feeds even if you block my ass. Purple Car and eMOM... you lose!
- Noah David Simon
Noah - don't start your war w/ other people over here on my FF - I respect your space - please show me the same consideration. :) Yes, I know you hate Twitter - but that has nothing to do with attacking folks on my FF you!! And it's my birthday today, so you have to play nice over here :)
- Lucretia Pruitt
I agree with Noah on Twitter abuse of users and Fascism! And that some Tweeps had heavy handiness in having him banned by the developers! But Noah leave these people alone! Their actions speak for themselves!
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
happy belated birthday
- Noah David Simon
Amazing. If anything they should put a cap on followers, not people you are following. This is a sad way to deal with the scale problems. On the other hand I haven't followed anyone on Twitter lately.
- Robert Scoble
Lucretia: I was wondering who you were talking to but then I realized I blocked Noah a while back.
- Robert Scoble
oink... Buenos Dias! pig f#(% http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Noah David Simon
Here's the link in the screenshot: http://getsatisfaction.com/twitter...
- Vincent X
* Maximum number of follow attempts in a day. Which means you can still follow your 10,000 users but just not all in one day.
- Andrew Trinh
Even Robert's idea has issues. Say the cap is x number of followers and I want to follow you but I'm x+1. I have no way of following you if I wanted to unless someone else drops out. That's Facebook-ish in its limit of 5,000 friends.
- Johnny Worthington
"* 1,000 total updates per day, on any and all devices" Updates by me or that I receive?
- Johnny Worthington
the answer to these questions in the end is not so much an engineering question as a cultural one. We can understand a lot about social networks by studying a nations highway systems. (more....)
- Noah David Simon
when Robert Moses was building roads it became apparent that there were traffic problems. The initial solution. ---> building better and more roads did not solve the problem. the more roads... the more cars (more....)
- Noah David Simon
the only legitimate answer to the problem is to not limit driving, but to create alternative modes of travel. if twitter is hoarding technology like they did, then alternative networks without the traffic problems will not grow. it is a monopoly problem... (more....)
- Noah David Simon
The Matrix runs on human batteries baby!
- Mark Forman
when I say twitter is fascist. I MEAN IT! listen to me finally.
- Noah David Simon
Noah - I respect that your opinion differs - but please do me the courtesy of not attacking someone I consider a friend on my FF stream. That's the one thing that could cause me to block you. Not because I don't think you have a right to hold or share your opinion, but b/c I don't want you doing it at my party - if you must, please do it at yours. Now - what were you saying about cultural v. engineering?
- Lucretia Pruitt
Twitter is facist... Loooooooooong stretch my friend. The reason other networks do not grow is that the mass public have choosen to come (and stay) with twitter. And the fact that other services exist dispells the fascist tag as Twitter are to busy fixing themselves to exercise their power. And who would want the technology twitter is hording... it's broken.
- Johnny Worthington
Robert - I agree that there must be a better solution - but to cap people at different levels seems to me to be the bigger issue. I mean, if they want to say "if you want more than X followers or following, you must have a Pro account" then I'm game - but to limit some to lower numbers than others seems like a really bad move. :(
- Lucretia Pruitt
Lucretia: I agree. It is a tough problem. Capping per day seems ok, though.
- Robert Scoble
twitter is talking about engineering because it is a red herring. why can't I reply here in friendfeed to anything else but twitter? why does my facebook update only respond to twitter? why why why? because the technology standard is being hoarded. they are going around playing like "Lucy from Peanuts"...
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- Noah David Simon
the technology is broken... but twitter controls the API game
- Noah David Simon
The limit makes who you are following even more important, so I'd say it reinforces Scoble's idea. Now the way this is communicated is appalling, but the idea of a limit by itself is not necessarily bad.
- Antoine Bertier
I don't want flowers before you sodomize me! inform the people about socialized castration? This network is guilty of enough PR. they blame any square peg they can, but in the end they are the ones who are limiting innovation. just go along with the crowd and don't complain. Lemmings. Free the damn API so we can keep our balls. let me feed on the network I want, using the interface given!
- Noah David Simon
I have been struggling in utter frustration after being capped abruptly, with no warning. I cannot follow anyone else, after meeting many new people in the past two weeks who have added me. It is actually causing me to LOSE followers because people know that I can't follow them back. I follow more people than follow me, which I thought was a GOOD thing, and now I'm being penalized for it. This is incredibly stupid on Twitter's part, because I have corporate clients on Twitter and was about to sign up more..
- Cathryn Hrudicka
Twiitter=Fail
- Fred Grott
(cont.) How can I keep recommending clients sign up for Twitter when they might get capped abruptly at any moment, with no warning? This, on top of the crashes—and yet, Twitter claims to want more corporate clients. So stupid and short-sighted on their part. I have now spent a week in this frustrating mode, where no one responded to my tweets, multiple emails or inquiries about how long my quota would last...
- Cathryn Hrudicka
(cont.) Finally, today, I got an email from Crystal at Twitter, reiterating the quota limits, and saying something like, gee, I guess this hasn't worked well for you. She said she would TRY to talk someone into getting rid of my quota, so I still don't know how long this will last or when I will be released from quota prison. This has completely destroyed my enjoyment of Twitter and has wasted tons of my time. I'm very, very angry and sad about it.
- Cathryn Hrudicka
(cont.) I no longer enjoy being on Twitter. It has driven me to spend more time on my other socnets. After specifcially tweeting @Ev @Biz @Jack several times, and not having any of them respond to me (they have on other occasions), I may have no choice but to continue being very noisy about this predicament, and blogging negatively about Twitter. My situation is shared by @Mark Davidson and @williamsba, who posted on his blog re Twitter quotas:: http://tinyurl.com/5m7wmz We're all very frustrated by it.
- Cathryn Hrudicka
(cont.) The only thing I can possibly "like" about this is that Lucretia brought it up here—thank you, Lucretia. I have gotten many msgs. of support on Twitter from my friends who have seen my tweets and had no idea these quotas existed or were being doled out arbitrarily to people who are following less than 2500-3000 people. Why are only some of us being singled out for these quotas when clearly we're not spammers & are "good Twitter citizens"? :-(
- Cathryn Hrudicka
you stood and watched them libel me and now you have reaped what you have sown. now you all suffer the limitations burdened on you arbitrarily. now you all have been silenced. twitter has failed in biblical proportions and the diaspora has just begun. I might change my name to Jeremiah. none of you headed my warning. Babylon has conquered you.
- Noah David Simon
“Then said they, Come and let us devise devices against Jeremiah; for the law shall not perish from the priest, nor counsel from the wise, nor the word from the prophet. Come, and let us smite him with the tongue, and let us not give heed to any of his words.”
- Noah David Simon
I am a good twitter citizen Cathryn and now you understand that @Panopticons was putting into question the idea of proportion within a given interface. The incredible catastrophe of philosophical paradox was sealed when they decided to punish me because they didn't like my thoughts. most of the people stood by and decided to be "Liberal" on their concept of communications abuse and were discriminating between structural and contextual concepts. I did not create the twitter interface.
- Noah David Simon
I used the same interface you did when I decided to build my profiles. there were at the time no limitations outlined by twitter terms in conflict with what I was doing. The rules became arbitrary. In the same respect your suffering accounts used the same interface and the rules of twitter changed Cathryn. You were caught in the same pit of discretion that I was caught in. They are already using a proportional argument to limit you because you are not as big as an Alister. Slippery slopes indeed!
- Noah David Simon
gosh people just LEAVE Twitter........ problem solved.
- ChaCha Fance
not that simple. I integrate my networks. the way the APIs work on most places, without twitter I can't be part of the conversation. for here example twitter doubles each comment in a twitter post. the other services don't do this. they have a lock on facebook upates for the most part as well... and it is the only way I know of to bring myspace into the rest of the web. whatever the have needs to be in the hands of others or it is an unfair monopoly.
- Noah David Simon
So after my angst outburst last p.m., I got this cryptic email from Twitter today: "Thanks for requesting to be on Twitter's API whitelist. We've approved your request! You should find any rate limits no longer apply to authenticated requests made by CreativeSage. This change should take effect within the next 24 hours. Thanks much, and good luck with your application!" So now we have to "apply" to NOT have quotas? I guess my repeated tweets & msgs. count as an "application."
- Cathryn Hrudicka
ChaCha Fance, It's not quite so simple when you have clients and project collaborators or co-workers on Twitter, and you've spent over a year building up a community there. I did consider yanking my acct. & completely leaving Twitter, but had to think about all of this. Instead, I think we're seeing people switching more of their conversation time to other socnets, like FriendFeed.:-)
- Cathryn Hrudicka
Cathryn - that email response sounds like something that a developer would get. Did you send a formal request to be added to the API whitelist or did that email arrive out of the blue?
- Mike Doeff
It arrived out of the blue, seemingly very separate from my email from Crystal, who just sent me another email saying they "haven't forgotten me" and are trying to work out a solution. Still no definite indication when.
- Cathryn Hrudicka
That API whitelist that they referred to in the email has been used for several months to allow approved applications (e.g. Twitturly) to bypass the API limits. They might be using the same whitelist to help you with your problem. That would explain why they wished you good luck with your application. Maybe you got some kind of form letter that usually goes to developers.
- Mike Doeff
I was a bit puzzled why they said "my application" because I didn't receive any kind of form letter or application. I'll try to email Crystal again and see what can be done. I'd like to get them to do it within the 24 hrs. they mentioned. I guess a work-around would be to start another Twitter acct., but then that's another one to manage. We'll see. Thanks for this info, it's helpful.:-)
- Cathryn Hrudicka
Wow what a picture. - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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Uwe Schwarz, K.D., Miller Tzou and 8 other people liked this
I'm not necessarily a person that would ever be in that crowd, but that does mean this isn't a cool picture.
- Zach Underwood
Too bad nobody in that crowd took a picture of Obama, the moment might be lost forever. http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Philipp Lenssen
to be part of a crowd makes you feel secure. no matter how frightening dumb you are. hitler and goebbles knew that very well, but it will be valid forever and it has been valid for every lifeform since the beginning. what i want to say is: just make sure to have a good understanding as an individual what your leader shapes you into. (btw: connected individuals=BORC > leader/sheep)
- Chris Hofmann
PicLens for Firefox. Awesome. Period. - http://anzman.blogspot.com/2008...
Mike Fruchter, Ken Sheppardson, Christian Farley and 10 other people liked this
You gotta try it!
- Charlie Anzman
for some reason I've avoided this.... I can't explain why
- Stefan Hayden
@Stefan -- no time better than now to try it out
- Brian Sloane
I totally love this thing - it's so crazy
- Sarah Perez
yep, awesome, crashed FF first time round but OK after, if only they gave you some more controls, like most viewed on Youtube.
- Toby Graham
Top 6 Tips for Choosing a Blog Name - http://www.flixya.com/post...
John F Morton and nick carrasco liked this
my marriage will finally get legalized on June 17th at 3PM, barring any disastrous outbreaks of homophobia in the meantime
Mrinal Desai, Amit Agarwal, Henrik Johansson and 34 other people liked this
yay! congratulations to you and your family!!!
- Marshall Kirkpatrick
Congrats!
- l0ckergn0me
congratulations!
- Alejandro
Congrads Gina.
- Shawn L. Morrissey
oy, congratulations!
- Martin Liechti
Congratulations to ya!
- Marcel Weiß
Congrats Gina!
- Sean Alexander
Congratulations!
- Cyndy
Congrats on your marriage.
- Steve Rubel
I don't know you, but I am very happy for you! Congratulations.
- JA Castillo
Congrats Gina! Here's to many more years of happiness for you both!
- Kevin C. Tofel
congratulations!
- edythe
Best wishes for a wonderful life.
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
this makes me smile.
- Robert Scoble
Congratulations on your upcoming marriage!
- Rick Powell
Well, thankfully it's not the government's job to prevent its citizens from being disgusted, it's merely its job to ensure equal protection under the law. In which case, you need to think about your use of the word "legitimate."
- Rick Powell
All the best!
- Chris Nixon
Congratulations!
- David Worrell
Congratulations Gina.
- Amit Agarwal
The "me" tab on friendfeed should not only show content you've originated in your feed, it should also include any content that you've commented on as well.
assbach, Sam Levine, Beau Liening and 30 other people liked this
I was just thinking that today. It would be very useful.
- Yolanda
That would be nice
- Joel Gray
I don't know, I kind of like having the comments area separately linked on the "me" page like it is.
- Bwana ☠
Nah I like that the me tab is just my stuff. It's not hard to then click on discussion to see what I've liked/commented on.
- Mack D. Male
You get this by clicking on "comments" on the right panel. One Click-Away.
- Guillaume Lemoine
That would be useful....
- Mike Wills
I agree with Bwana -- I like it the way it is. I can easily see any comments/likes for things I have shared and am only one click away from being able to revisit things I have liked and commented on.
- Robert Seidman
I'm jumping on the "ok as it is" bandwagon here. I like the separation of content I created vs my comments/likes.
- Internet's Tad
from fftogo
I tend to agree that the extra click is worth it to keep things separated. perhaps user choice?
- Frankie Warren
I think that as well, it would make sense!
- Joe Dawson
I agree, but would also like a little toggle for my content, my content and likes/comments.
- AJ Kohn
Definitely. That way you keep track of the conversation
- Simon Bisson
that is what i thought it did? was surprised it didn't, change that please Ff
- J Allen
the thing is that clicking on "comments" is not intuitive. In fact, I'd never even thought to do that (as crazy as that sounds) and I'm a pretty heavy user. If FF is going to appeal to the mainstream it will need to be much more intuitive than it is today. Better to include commented items in the me tab and then give advanced users a way to filter out just their own stuff vs. how it is now.
- Thomas Hawk
Hmmm... I think it should be easier to track "conversations" in general. For example, if I wanted to follow the comments on this message for a day or so, maybe there could be a 'track' or 'follow' button, which would then add a new tab to the friend feed page just for it. Or perhaps there could be a tab for "Conversations I'm Following". Sometimes I'm looking for new info in my FF, but sometimes I'm looking to follow discussions I'm participating in.
- Brian
There's more than one way to skin a cat -- how about you click on the "Me" tab" and get sub navigation defaulting on "things I've shared" tab and also have "my comments" and "my likes" as sub-tabs? (in the actual navigation instead of a small link off to the right)
- Robert Seidman
thats pretty obvious
- kosmar
I'm not sure that the Friendfeed UI is intended for the "mainstream" user. Is Gmail for the "mainstream" user? I probably wouldn't recommend either service to my parents.
- Jason Wehmhoener
I agree with original ask by Thomas.
- Jigar Mehta
Agreed, that was my assumption already. Didn't know until a few days ago that "me" didn't include my comments. Would be a nice way to track conversations -- I don't want to be rude and miss a conversation that warrants a follow-up comment. We could just visit "comments", but then again "me" should be self-explanatory.
- Mike Reynolds
What I am thinking is, if I promote 'me' page with my network (who has not yet joined friendfeed!), they dont get to see other stories where I have commented! If they could, they can even jump in and start participating.. FFers should seriously think about this..
- Jigar Mehta
Even Me page doesnt show the content which is originated by me but in some room! Dont you think my submission in some room should also appear on my me page?
- Jigar Mehta
Here here...
- Chris Reed
um... isn't that what adding "/discussion" is for? (i.e. http://friendfeed.com/thomash...)
- TranceMist
Ahhh, the "See Both" link on the right. I had no idea, thanks TranceMist!
- Joel Gray
Woo.. I dint know about this.. So, /discussion would list content I originated + all posts where I commented + all posts which I liked + all my posts in particular rooms ??
- Jigar Mehta
separation of content and comment a goodly thing
- Ashton
I agree that the comments and the content should be seperated. Could FF put a "recent comments" widget somewhere??
- Roberto Bonini
Yeah Thomas, I saw those COmments and Likes links but missed the Discussion link there! I think Discussion link is fine except it doesnt list my discussions in 'rooms'..
- Jigar Mehta
from bTT
This is currently my number one annoyance with friendfeed.
- Zach Landes
from twhirl
Sending favorite threads to their own tabs would be useful, sort of like stickies on a forum. Likes and Comments do help though (now that I've read the thread)
- sergiooo
How Bloggers Can Use FriendFeed Effectively - http://feeds.lifehack.org/~r...
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Good article. The idea of pruning your FriendFeed to give it a higher signal to noise ratio by pruning your feeds that end up here sounds good, but since FF aggregates all your online media creation, I think another approach to this is to do the pruning before that noise gets out on the Internet to begin with. I think this is a skill people learn over time. Most people's first tweets...
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- John F Morton
Rooms are great, as Friendfeed gathered a big group of members, who are willing to respond to topics in rooms of their interests.
- Jansen Lu
@randypeterman I'm an atheist, but any educated westerner should know the Bible.
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I feel the same way with Christians knowing and understanding athiesm. Knowledge is key to me especially in anything related to religion.
- Mike Lewis
Hmm. I know 'of' the bible, I've read books about the bible. I'm not sure that you should have to know the bible just because you have been raised in a particular geographic location. It's not my fault I was born here. Since most westerners are most likely au fait with western culture, it might actually be a better idea to read the Koran. Anyway, I think it's perfectly possible to be educated and to have not read/studied the bible or any other work of religious indoctrination.
- Paul Grav
see what happened after these guys READ THE BIBLE: Josh McDowell http://www.josh.org/apologe... and Lee Strobel http://www.leestrobel.com/Bio...
- Thomas Ho
Wow Leo. I'm sad for you. I'll pray for you regardless - can't imagine an eternity without Leo Laporte's wisdom and humor.
- Dan Nimtz
One should know the history of Western monotheism, and a good place to start is F.E. Peters http://tinyurl.com/5v3s4d Contemporary American politics is being driven by some of the worst memes in the tradition.
- Sean McBride
There's nothing more insulting to an atheist than the "Awwwwww how sad. I'll pray for you!" line after telling someone (or a group) you are an atheist. As for the Lee Strobel reference, how come is "Case for a Creator" book only interviews like minded people? That's good journalamism!! (and when I read soem pretty significant chunks of the bible, all it did was cement my atheism.)
- Jason B.
Actually, @Paul Grave The Bible is not a western book. It is an oriental one. (middle East). And the scriptures were handed down through the nation of Israel. If you read the account of Pentecost when Jews of several different languages were given a witness about Christ this is a story of the initial spreading of Christianity.
- Melanie Reed
Also, there are many works of literature that will lose their richness of meaning for you if you have not read the Bible. The most familiar are the complete works of Shakespeare. A reading of The Winter's Tale which is his most complex play will make little sense if you have not read the Bible.
- Melanie Reed
Jason, likewise, there's nothing more insulting to a Christian (or any person who practices a religion) to be told "if you actually read your sacred text, you'd be an atheist, too." Understanding is needed from both sides. Paul, I don't understand the resistance to reading the bible on the grounds that it's "religious indoctrination:" is there some fear that once reading it, the book will cast a spell and your mind and free will will be forever lost?
- Mark Trapp
Mark, indeed and I never said that. I just said that for me, it cemented *my* atheism. Although many of the casual Christians I've known seem to have a severe lack of knowledge of their own book & belief system, including the relative who thought Christmas really was the actual calendar day of Jesus' birth. So you can (I hope) understand where that sentiment comes from at times. (as well as the many biblical contradictions and selective quoting of the Religious Right puts a bad taste in an atheist's mouth)
- Jason B.
@Jason B. If it ever becomes your desire, I will be happy to take you beyond the "chunks" of the Bible you have read and study it with you as a whole so that you will see that it is more than you might think. I am confident that you will find that you have missed a great deal. As to your perception of it altering, I will leave that to you and God.
- Melanie Reed
Likewise, there are a great many casual scientists I've known who seem to have a severe lack of knowledge of all the scientific and academic work that's been going around: how many casual scientists do you know that believe that evolution is law have actually read all the science journals on evolution? My god, they are so ignorant! Come on. As with EVERYTHING, there's a lot of big picture stuff you need to believe or know, and a lot of details that, while enriching your beliefs, don't invalidate everything.
- Mark Trapp
Furthermore, there are a bunch of engineers I know who have a terrible time interacting with people because they approach relationships as an analytical problem. Do I write off or treat with contempt every engineer, or treat them as a representative sample of engineers, because of this? Why would you do that for any group of people?
- Mark Trapp
I'm just saying it'd do everyone a solid if people would stop with the constant assumptions about a person's state of mind based on their faith (or lack thereof).
- Mark Trapp
Agreed on the assumptions. Earlier things ("How many casual scientists do you know that believe that evolution is law have actually read all the science journals on evolution?") I'm gonna let slide or I'll get really pedantic. heh
- Jason B.
@Melanie Reed. I didn't spell my name wrong, it really is Paul Grave. I never said that the bible was a western book. I think Leo mentions that educated westerns ought to know it because of its significant influence on western culture.
- Paul Grav
@Mark Trapp, No there's no fear on my side. I've read parts of it. I've never found the time or inclination to read it from start to finish. There are many interesting books that I'd like to read, and I only have a finite amount of time.
- Paul Grav
@Jason B It always amazes me when an atheist is offended when a Christian offers to pray on their behalf. If you truly deeply believe that we are praying to nothingness - why would that bother you? It certainly isn't infringing on your rights, and as Christians, we are just as deeply believing that it just may help.
- Dan Nimtz
@Jason B I know where you are coming from when you mention being disappointed by the way casual Christians act, etc. That's because we are all sad examples of what we should be. That's why true Christianity isn't about religous people, it's really only about Jesus. I've often found that once people get passed the "Christians" and get on to Jesus, perceptions often change.
- Dan Nimtz
We ought to share this thread with the folks who've been lamenting that FF users ONLY talk about FF :^)
- Thomas Ho
@Paul Grave Thank you for catching my typo on your name. I'm sorry I added an "s". I am not a great typist. ;) I have corrected it. When you said "I'm not sure that you should have to know the bible just because you have been raised in a particular geographic location. It's not my fault I was born here. Since most westerners are most likely au fait with western culture, it might actually be a better idea to read the Koran" Your thought suggests that you were associating the Bible w/western culture.
- Melanie Reed
@Paul Grave I do agree with you; the Bible has had an impact on western culture. It has also had and continues to have an impact on many other cultures throughout the inhabited world and it will continue to. Frontline is re-airing, for instance, in July a program called "Jesus in China"
- Melanie Reed
@Dan Nimtz. I tend to find it slightly condescending to receive prayers from a 3rd party. Praying for me would imply that there's something wrong with my life that needs correcting. I understand the intention is probably good, but it doesn't stop it from ticking me off.
- Paul Grav
@Melanie Reed. Thank you for the correction :) My message was in reply to Leo's. I'm assumed that Leo thinks that westerners ought to 'know' the bible because of its *influence* on western culture. I might be wrong, I don't know. His words are all I have to go on.
- Paul Grav
What @Paul Grave said re: "praying for me" (where me = an atheist)
- Jason B.
@Paul Grave Forgive me if my reply sounded like a correction. It was meant more as a clarification. What I have found in my "travels" about the American culture is that the Bible has come to be associated with the western culture from a perceptual rather than actual basis. Yet the Bible was written for all people and transcends culture. The very first promise in the Bible is a blessing that was extended to all the nations of the earth.
- Melanie Reed
In fact, you will become an Atheist if you know Bible, Koran, Bhagwat Gita and other religious books. Once you understand what is written in them properly, you will want to run away from the religion.
- Krishnan Subramanian
I've read all three cover-to-cover. I guess I'm broken.
- Mark Trapp
@Paul Grave That men and women have come and gone and misrepresented that promise, does not make it less true. That we have come to focus on the tragic difficult and disloyal actions of some often to the exclusion of the good and loyal actions of many who live the way of Christ is something we must carefully and honestly, though sometimes uncomfortably give consideration.
- Melanie Reed
@Dan Nimtz. Thanks. I appreciate your understanding. @Melanie Reed. When I mention 'influence', I'm thinking of how Christianity has affected our laws, our education system (the UK in particular) and US presidential candidates etc.. etc.. It's not islam or the koran that had/has influence in western culture, but christianity.
- Paul Grav
Why am I not surprised to see the standard, "I'll pray for your soul" response? Equally typical is the assumption that atheists are afraid of the bible. I totally agree with Krish ... The more I learned about various religions, the less I wanted to do with religion.
- Chantal
@Paul Grave Thank you for clarifying. One of the reasons for the turmoil of the world, what the Bible refers to as a "pushing and shoving" of influences ( to keep to your term) is so that all objections to the rule of Christ as King will be answered. We are living in such times where the action appears to be headed toward the climax, yet the rising action has already occurred, the climax at the Cross, and the falling action, though protracted, is where you and I are getting a front row seat as it were.
- Melanie Reed
By the way, I just bought The God Delusion (Richard Dawkins) the other day! Good atheist reading, that.
- Chantal
see what Richard Dawkins says about reading the Bible: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol...
- Thomas Ho
I'm glad to hear it, Leo. Now I'm an even bigger fan.
- Chris Johnson
Jesus FTW
- Tyler Gillies
And, The Really Big Thing About The New iPhone Is… - http://mashable.com/2008...
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great post, couldn't agree more about seamless usability being the real advance between current/past LBS approaches.
- Benton
At last somebody realized how much GPS is important for iPhone and write about it.
- ahmet bulent
Please don't use tabs for my rooms. - http://skitch.com/itafrom...
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Can you imagine this with 2x more rooms? 10x more rooms? Yikes.
- Mark Trapp
Scrolling tabs maybe? (scroll from side to side on mouse movement)
- Brandon Titus
Yeah, this is turning into a UI nightmare. Needs updating in the next revision.
- Bwana ☠
agreed.
- Thomas Hawk
Tabs are nicely implemented for the general site, but don't scale well. Definitely the wrong UI choice for Rooms
- Jamie
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