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Leo Laporte
Comcast Petaluma is suffering a "serious outage." 15,000 in Petaluma affected. Including The Tech Guy.
That sucks. Stay strong Leo. - Eric Geller
Keep the faith, Leo. Indy loves you! - John Fox
I hate it when that happens. - George Brickner
Ugh, that sucks. :( Keep your chin up, Leo. :) Watching the stream on BitGravity at the moment. Wish your show was aired here in Buffalo. - Mol, Santa Claws
Sonoma's okay right now - Rob
Comcast is out several other places in CA, too. Comcastic! - redct
No TWiT today? - David Schmidt
Be strong Leo... - JD Woodard
You'll pull through it. What do you use the Comcast for? I know you have multiple different internet connections at the TWiT Cottage. - David van Sunder
Screw You Comcast! - Dave VanderWall
David, Leo has backup DSL and Ethernet over the Last Mile besides his comcast... and a T1 --- twit will not be affected... although it has put a cramp on him for his radio show - Chris Heath
Charter was down for me yesterday. Tag, you're it! - Amber Hewitt
Comcast Petaluma should call The Tech Guy .... uhhh, wait ... - HansVanRock
Wicked funny Hans, wicked funny.... - Chris Heath
Neil Saunders
Real-time FriendFeed in Firefox sidebar
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(1) install All In One Sidebar extension; (2) right-click navigation toolbar to add a new bookmark; (3) add the URL http://friendfeed.com/realtim... and check "open in sidebar"; (4) that's it. - Neil Saunders
As if I needed more distractions ;) - Lars Juhl Jensen
Nice, but I'm with Lars, that smacks of productivity killing ;) - Daniel Swan
I did the same thing back in October when real time came out so I could compare the two versions of FriendFeed - "standard" mode and "real time" mode. http://friendfeed.com/e... - Susan Beebe
Can you do this with Chrome as well? - Aaron Strout
This is great advice on getting a Friendfeed realtime feed in a sidebar. I've just tried installing the All In One sidebar on Flock 2.5, resulting in an error. On Firefox 3.0.11, it works great! I guess it makes sense to run Twitter in my Flock people sidebar, and Friendfeed realtime in my Firefox All In One sidebar. - David Ing
Leo Laporte
One 32GB iPhone 3GS is on its way from Shenzhen China. Scheduled to arrive Thursday!
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Yay! ;) - Peter Kruit
Nice. I have to wait until July 12 :( - Jim Graham
Congrats! - Terje Mikal Espedal
Enjoy, Leo! - Sarah-Jane Gray
a day early? Awesome for you! - Jim Oxenford
Nice. You'll have to give us a good review. - Tom Silk
You are a sucker for incremental apple upgrades Leo but I love you all the same :) - David Lloyd
Drat! I ordered on the 9th and still no shipment :( Look forward to some first impressions :) - Richard Goodwin from twhirl
Jealous. Screw you leo! - ihateatmfees
Unfortunately I won't be able to get one until December. grr - Tony Buser
GIve us a good hands on review. Debating if I should upgrade as I hit one year with 3G on 7/12 - Alan Ashley
iPhone 3G S[orry its not a Palm Pre] - Palm Pre shootout? :) - jcunwired
Congrats!!! I want one so bad but I don't want to leave T-Mobile. - Eduardo Contreras
Jealous! - Duncan Rawlinson
@jcunwired: I played with a Pre. It's nice. iPhone will kick it's ass. Frankly, so will the new BB's which is what Palm seems to be targeting. - Adam C.
When did you place your 3G S order? I put mine in to Apple on June 10th, and it's not showing as shipped yet; trying to judge how fast they're processing... - Paul Skudlarek
Mine was scheduled to arrive on Wednesday. Checked again this morning and it changed to Thursday.. Let's see if it changes again to Friday. - Rick Huizinga
iPhone will undoubtedly kick its ass, at some point in the future. The delta is too small between Pre and 3G S to warrant an ass-whooping. - jcunwired
I can't wait!!! - Jerry Lee
Lucky you, we can't preorder in Canada :( - Ray Slakinski
Uh, not sure displaying your tracking number is a good idea. That's about all it takes when requesting a package redirection - and that's pretty tempting! - Anil Rhemtulla
Mine says it will arrive on the 17th, which is tomorrow. I don't know how, since it hasn't left china yet - Nate T
I'm scheduled for delivery on the 18th... order placed June 8th. God... sounds like a baby... Cheers - Ross W. Prout
Ordered mine on the 8th and no shipping notice yet. :-\ As for iPhone vs Pre, it'll take awhile to fully see how the apps change the Pre since that's the iPhone's key right now for me. - Ken Chan
When can we stop calling these phones? - David J Lowe
I'm taking a chance and heading to the Birmingham Apple Store Friday morning to get mine. Hope they have enough. - Dom Barnes
Me too. Mine says the 17th! - Wo
kewl - emoqix
Gonna pick up my pre-ordered one at the "T-Punkt" T-Mobile store here in Germany on Friday. Picked the same You did, unless You chose the white one, that is. Personally I especially can't wait for the tomtom car navigation set with exta speaker and GPS enhancer to finally come out - it's gonna be so awesome! - weckman
I got that message too! Woo hooo!! sooo excited, where's that UPS brown truck baby?!! party at the front door!! - Susan Beebe
P.S.: Don't You love world-wide rollouts? So much more fun when we all get it the same day! - weckman
That's so cool - ramiles from Alert Thingy
I ordered it from Apple around noon Pacific on June 9. - Leo Laporte
Mine, too. - Jim Cutler
Ordered mine same time on the 9th, but no ship yet. Is this another famous Leo Laporte "free and early access to garner a good review"? Screw you Leo! :) - Richard Goodwin
Is - ramiles from Alert Thingy
Very interested on your reports about the speed increase and if it makes a difference. I may get one in December when my contract is up for this old Moto Q. - Eric @ CSTechcast.com
That's awesome Leo. My 3G will have to suffice though. Still looking forward to 3.0 - Joel Crawley
Anyone know how leo dealt w/ the AT&T contract/costs??? Just curious. I know he can afford to spend the extra for the phone, so that's not the question. - mark dekruyter
congrats, Leo! - Matthew Vaughan
How much did it cost? - Henrik Falk
See if it still has that date Leo. Mine disappeared. - Wo
My delivery date has just disappeared! It's beginning to look like UPS may hold the delivery until Friday. - Rick Huizinga
Wow, no 3G S for me only OS 3.0 update..waiting for the download - Gerard Marbeck
I'm really not understanding the i-phone thing. Frankly, I think the phone sucks. I hate the keyboard touch, I can't imagine a woman in this country with a decent manicure wanting to deal with that crappy screen! I have service at home with Verizon in the countryside where we live, my husband's crappy I-Phone drops out about ten miles from the house and not only that, the piece of crap is constantly dropping phone calls. Is the bay area better? - Jennifer Ragde
Boys like their toys, Jennifer. - Jeff
I love toys as well, I'm just not getting the I-phone thing, I have a DS, PSP, I'm a seriously geek game girl, just not getting that horrible phone. I can't be the only girl that thinks that touch screen is completely awful! The touch screen is so sensitive, if you have fingernails, good luck! - Jennifer Ragde
Clearly it's a counterfeit! - Mark Davidson from BuddyFeed
UPS is holding delivery on the iPhone 3GS until Friday: http://tinyurl.com/n8gr8o - Joshua Blevins
I envy you Leo! - Rahul Mirakhur
did u get it leo? details please! lol - Arnold
Leo Laporte
My. That's interesting. iTunes 8.2 thinks my Pre is an iPod.
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LOL. - Zee.
Whoa! Omg Leo I can't wait to hear all about the Pre. - Lise
Welcome to the controversy :) - Bwana ☠
Unbuntu always thinks my HTC Diamond is an Ipod - Patrick Dwyer
Funny strange, Leo. Funny strange. - Callie
Heck Leo the iphone guys designed it to do that. I read it would be seemless. I wonder about any apple infringement? I'm sure they thought it through - Rock
anyone know when the pre comes to australia? - Bill Thomas
Looking forward to getting my Palm Pre - Dustin Sherrill
I wonder how long it will take Apple to send out an iTunes update to shut this down. My guess, two weeks at most. - Michael Groner
Oh that's awesome. - Bobby Lacey
It has to be a bug in the file. That's what I'm thinking. - Callie
Are you using Windows 7? I have heard a number of people mention this today but they were all using W7. - Nicholas Kreidberg
very interesting.. - victed
Sounds like the Pre has an identity crisis. ☺ - Jim Lecter
Now Leo I still maintain you recommended the Storm and I hope you don't do this to me again. Please. Don't get mad I just hang on your recommendations and just maybe I heard wrong. - Rock
Awesome... Wonder if Apple will have anything to say about this. - Jeff Matchett
Well it's supposed to. The USB identifier is the same as an iPod. - Dave Zawislak
Yes leo.. here's what's happening there http://bit.ly/YPUuP .. Engadget reported couple days ago http://bit.ly/B9lle - Divya Mistry
Leo were you already on live playing with the Pre? If not, come on live, I wanna see you testing it out live! - Lise
WOW....FriendFeed is awesome! - Anthony Campbell
Does the handset feel cheap? Every review I've seen so far said that the sliding mechanism felt loose. - Ryan Whitwam
rock: didnt leo strongly dislike the storm. - Anton Tanderup
I'm headed to the sprint store now and demanding one today. I know they have it in stock now. If I succeed I will let you know - Rock
That's probably a bad move on Palm's part. They should've done what other 3rd party players did get an ID instead of trying to pretend to be an iPod. I bet Apple could take legal action on this issue and win. - Mack McCoy
I bet this will last until the next system update from Apple :) - Bryan Lyle
Crazy - wonder if Apple is going to drop the hammer on this soon? Can Palm be sued under the DMCA for this? - Mike
Wow, Leo, welcome to last week's news: http://is.gd/Pxqp - John Callaback
I bet Apple reacts within a week - russellcoleman
Not at all Ryan. It feels great. Palm has hit a home run. I think there are some software flaws - it could be a tad more responsive - but those are easily fixed. I'm buying one tomorrow. - Leo Laporte
Leo, will you buy me one tomorrow? - Trad Robinson
Have heard other people say the same. The Pre Hack - Asgeir
OMG, you have a pre, Canada gets them tomorrow, so Ya!. - Zachary TG
Presumably this is only non-drm content (in particular no video from your itunes catalog)? - Dominic
On the Mac. I had read the news reports John, but I wanted to verify it with an actual Pre. Until then it's speculation. - Leo Laporte
This looks very exciting, but I still think 8gb/lack of expansion card slot will come back to haunt them. - charles
What do you think of the keyboard? - Matthew
I'm sure Leo will talk plenty about the Pre on Tomorrow's radio show. - Steven (optionshiftk)
Uh oh, I'm staying away from this one :) - jcunwired
I would stay away from an iTunes 8.3 update - Glenn Trtanj
I headed to buy one now I know they have them in the stores. You think they will cave if I make a big enough stink?? - Rock
Leo's buying a Pre tomorrow? OK, let's all wait a couple of weeks before buying - there's a secret Palm Pre 2.0 coming... ;) - Andy Bold
I agree let's wait at least 6 weeks after Leo has done a few shows on it. Since he is headed on Vacation again we have to wait. AHHHHHHHHHHH - Rock
Now I'm glad I didn't push that update just yet! - ryanmgeeks
Now I want a PrePod! - Kurt Carty
What Glenn said :) - Brett Kelly
Thats the link to a 3D spinning version of the Palm Pre - Rock
Leo you on live? Show us Show us C'mon - Rock
Apple fail? or PreFail? - Charles Naut
Charles it's an Apple Fail ;) - Nicholas James
Leo you have Paul Thurott on now... Get on line show us. - Rock
Nicholas. Disagree. How could this not be intellectual theft? All the Palm did was hire a hundred fifty Apple people. Rubenstein must've taken some magic Apple dust with him, too. I hope the lawyers don't give Palmista's too many nightmares. - Phil Boiarski
Looks like photos, unprotected music, and podcasts sync. Not Audible books. - Leo Laporte
I don't think an iTunes update is going to bork this. If iTunes is recognising iPods based on USB IDs, and the Pre is pushing an iPod USB ID for it's mass storage device, then iTunes updates won't be able to do anything about it without breaking compatibility with iPods that use this USB ID. Taking Palm to court, on the other hand, might do the same thing from a different direction. - Andy Bold
There's a PalmPre Unboxing on the schedule for 9pm (Pacific) tonight. - Matthew
ZOMG! I need a pre yesterday! - Ray
Playing with the SDK before getting to touch the device is all I can do at the moment. Poor me. - lisa padilla
lol - that's hilarious. wake up iTunes! - Jennifer
@Matthew, I think he unboxed it already, the time on the schedule is in UTC I think. - charles
correct... it was just before TWiF today... - Chris Heath
ahh, curse you time zones! - Matthew
Hate to intrude, but isn't Gillmor Gang supposed to be on right now? Since, like, half an hour ago? - Vlad Bobleanta
the schedule has The GG slotted for tomorrow at 3pm pacific - Chris Heath
Chris: Thanks, when I checked a few hours ago it was slotted today at 4:30 pacific. I checked again now and it has indeed changed. - Vlad Bobleanta
I still see it on 11:30pm UTC on the twit desktop app. - charles
charles, i'm still using the old v1.5 version of the twit live air app but it says tomorrow at 10utc - Chris Heath
Palm Pre looks pretty,i may have to buy one. thanks to leo :) - John
Old news. - Matt Ruiz
pre unboxing is rebroadcasting now - Matthew
Leo: Do you think the Palm Pre is going to be good competition against the iPhone? - Jason Hansen
With only 8GB's of storage, who cares if it syncs with iTunes. Not like I'd be using it as an iPod. - Jeff Self
Just thing of all the money apple can make from Palm Pre sales - Brian Cowie
I was able to get my hands on a Pre for an hour yesterday. As an iphone owner since day 1 I'm very impressed. It has all the glitz and glamour of the iphone with the 2.0 software. ( plus cut, copy and paste and the ability to run multiple apps. Oh yeah and a dedicated keyboard too. All the features worked really well, especially synergy. The calendar app on the Pre makes the iphones implementation look like a really bad try. - Micheal Weihrouch
that's pretty funny Leo! It looks like a great device. Can't wait too hear what you think about it. - Kevin M Lindow
Ahh...Assimilate. Well done Apple. - Mark Krynsky
Yea it is suppose to be able sync (for now) I think. I seem to remember reading something about it. - Shawn Snodgrass
The Pre USB hack also includes the fact it is made by Palm in the USB ID so it would be easy for Apple to block it. DVD John discovered how they did it - Iain
Maybe Apple bought out Palm... :P - Arnold
Oohhhh, Leo... If you can copy DRM free music to the Pre, is Palm condoning piracy?? ;) - Stan Augustyniewicz
Stan, DRM free music is music that doesn't have DRM (like the amazon store, the iTunes store since the recent change, and other music stores) Loe was just saying that his DRM music didn't transfer over to the Pre - Chris Heath
Hey, Leo, can you and/or the cottage crew do some sort of evaluation on Palm Pre battery life vs number of apps running in the background? - Stan Augustyniewicz from BuddyFeed
Yeah... I don't think Apple are going to let that one slide... - aminorjourney
*Your* Pre Leo? I thought you just had it on loan for review purposes for a week? - David Bradley
Don McAllister
The new iPhone 2009? Very realistic mockup found on http://www.flickr.com/photos... (via @eovermeer)
Very nice mock-up renderings! - Allen Bussell
Leo Laporte
Live now: This Week In Tech - volunteer edition. Call in via Talkshoe +1-724-444-7444 or visit http://www.talkshoe.com/talksho.... Watch at http://live.twit.tv. Or Discuss here...
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I am the first hahaha - Charbax
first - ralphsaunders
Woot - Adi
hehehehe - ralphsaunders
fail ralph - Matthew
you peeps were fast! - Phil Essing
I won - Charbax
Evening / Afternoon all - Simon Wicks
Hello Leo - Matthew
hey Leo - Roberto Bonini
So happy you didn't write "first", Charbax - Phil Essing
Howdy folks! Looking forward to awesome twit! Feels like it's been a decade since last twit. :( - Divya Mistry
Tweeted MobileJones for ya' in case she's not tied up with Mother's Day 8) - Web Pixie
This has potential to be really good, but also for disaster... only time will tell. *crosses-fingers* - Chris Heath
wtf ... matt i swear i was first a few seconds ago - ralphsaunders
Hello Leo. - Mol, Santa Claws
There are like 12 different chat rooms for this live show - Charbax
whats the embed code >< - ralphsaunders
Hello Leo , all - Richard J Placide
ralph... i refreshed and phillip stewart is first, you're third after charbax - Chris Heath
i know chris, but when i posted i was first lol. i Think friendfeed got a bit confused :P - ralphsaunders
i built a recumbent bike in 1997... it was from scrap pieces of ten speeds... - Chris Heath
The new Kindle - Mol, Santa Claws
The Kindle DX was announced this week - Jim Lavin
someone post the link to the real time chat, i don't see it - zephyrlily
Friendfeed is better than twitter - Charbax
where is teh friendfeed room for twit? - earl wallace
No Twitter promised before show start. :P - Phillip Stewart
importance of the ARM processor - Charbax
Thumbs Up for Alex Lindsay on TWIT. - Justin Luey
twitter and friendfeed were down, although twitter was planned - Matthew
earl, this is the room - Chris Heath
I hope Louis gets his Skype to work. - Mol, Santa Claws
aha found yall! - earl wallace
hmm idk about that. - ralphsaunders
LOL @ Leo saying "..gonna do very little social media today"....oh wait...he's serious? - Devon Blugh
I should finally go see Star Trek today. - Phillip Stewart
Star Trek was great - Matthew
Poor Louis - Mol, Santa Claws
Hello all - Shelton Ivey
Feel free to help edit the episode page in the wiki: http://wiki.twit.tv/wiki... - Phillip Stewart
I trekked across my backyard to see the stars last night....does that count as Star Trek? - Devon Blugh
Phil, thats the page I'm on, i can't find the link to select real time comments - zephyrlily
thanks Ralph - earl wallace
I'm nervous about this episode. - Lise
zephyrlily: not sure what you mean - Phil Essing
lol all that and it was the skypeasaurus - Chris Heath
maybe FF changed it, it looks like it's in real time now - zephyrlily
Leo is amazing with just 2 arms. Think he needs 2 more though :) - Richard J Placide
leo, could it be the soundboard? - Chris Heath
Wasn't the input on zero? - Daniel Rowley
Leo I thought this would be kludgey but it is quite cool - earl wallace
echo123 thinks I can talk - Louis Gray
zephyrlily: yeah, it should be real-time - Phil Essing
I am a mute! - Louis Gray
I love to watch a pioneer at work, I'm learning so much by watching him troubleshoot his setup. - Jim Lavin
Now it's not :). - Daniel Rowley
louis, it was leo, skypesettings on his end... - Chris Heath
Aww poor Louis - Mol, Santa Claws
you can pop out an item. click on the timestamp to open in its own tab. then click on the timestamp again there in the new tab. - Tony, Paradox of FF
I'm thinking this could be the one episode that I wouldn't mind missing.... - Shane
Leo blamed his guest for no reason....shame, shame... - Devon Blugh
Whoohoo!!!! - Mol, Santa Claws
leo, something's still wrong on the soundboard with louis' audio - Chris Heath
we're hearing louis through your bleed speaker into your mics - Chris Heath
Louis sounds off - Mol, Santa Claws
His audio isn't coming over the feed Leo - Craig Durling
Love Socialmedian - earl wallace
Really, Sam? Hm. - Louis Gray
You guys guide me. I can go up and down. - Louis Gray
I don't think it's you, Louis, I think it's on Leo's end. - Mol, Santa Claws
Yer, Louis, your sound isn't coming through on the stream. - Daniel Rowley
It is rather like NASCAR... No races on Mom's day... - Mark A. Landers
Not talking this sec. I'll watch this close. - Louis Gray
louis, i think you're coming thru the studio monitor to their studio mics sounds like you're in a tin can far away - Chris Heath
pics = mics - Chris Heath
Leo, Louis's audio isn't coming over the feed, just bleed spkr - Craig Durling
Okay, Chris. I'll let them know. - Louis Gray
Leo, take this opportunity to plug my new SQUARESPACE Web site: http://www.macneurotic.com - MacNeurotic
MacNeutronic, probably not going to happen - Chris Heath
It actually sounds better - Mol, Santa Claws
Aaah Sound - Chriz
Ah, Louis, sound has picked up now, much better - Simon Wicks
will theis dialogue archive and be available to refer back too. - earl wallace
Now we've got 'em Leo - Craig Durling
i wanna see star trek - Edgar Rodríguez
Sorted now. - Daniel Rowley
@Chris I know :( - MacNeurotic
I'm on Ustream and it's coming in fine - Mol, Santa Claws
Cool! Volunteer Edition?? - Ken Sheppardson
leo got the audio as you were saying that louis... - Chris Heath
I just switched from Stickam - Mol, Santa Claws
Phew. - Louis Gray
D'oh.. "twitter" mention.. time to drink! - Divya Mistry
FriendFeed rocks - Mol, Santa Claws
See?! Leo Lies!! - Devon Blugh
They blamed me! (This means war) - Louis Gray
I pick Friendfeed over Twitter nowadays - Chriz
How can it not be? - Ken Sheppardson
i've been watching on stickam mainly since teh BG switch... bg just hiccups too often - Chris Heath
Yup, me too, rately visit twitter - Roberto Bonini
If no social media, maybe I should hang up? :) - Louis Gray
I've met some cool people through FF - Mol, Santa Claws
Where are you located Chris? I'm in SF-bay area... for me BG is btr than stickam. - Divya Mistry
Need more volunteers? :-) - Ken Sheppardson
Maybe they don't have Mothers Day in Brazil. - Devon Blugh
Mother's Day is a Hallmark Holiday. - Francine Hardaway
If u mean me.. Im from the netherands ;) - Chriz
I get confused with who celebrates Mother's Day and who doesn't :P - Mol, Santa Claws
Netherlands - Chriz
twit-conversations Brazil - Daniel Wolff from IM
Hi to Netherlands as well.. I was actually talking about Chris Heath.. he finds stickam btr than BG - Divya Mistry
No chance. - Ken Sheppardson
You guys just crash the talkshoe... - Mark A. Landers
God, this sounds terrible. - ralphsaunders
Oh this is not good - Mol, Santa Claws
See how long TalkShoe stays on... - Louis Gray
He needs to unmute most of them - Mol, Santa Claws
Yep, pretty bad quality from Talk Shoe - Jim Lavin
this is gonna kill - Gary Gannon
Wasn't GillmorGang yesterday? - Ken Sheppardson
i've yet to hear a talkshoe conference that didn't sound like utter crap - Phil Essing
Yes, Ken. - Louis Gray
Louis: Call quality joke ;-) - Ken Sheppardson
ooo burrrrrn - ralphsaunders
Sam: Usually takes a few days. - Ken Sheppardson
This sucks sorry - Mol, Santa Claws
Skype just died. Yay. - Louis Gray
Actually, this is the last time there will be two Shuttled simultaneously prepped. - Phil Essing
Fail - Gary Gannon
awww - ralphsaunders
Shuttles* - Phil Essing
I'm off, this is a major fail - Mol, Santa Claws
no i think he just dropped - ralphsaunders
Enough of this! Anyone care about the Vignette/OpenText buyout? - Jon Marks
TWiT 194: Well, that didn't work - Phil Essing
Skype tends to die every 20 minutes. - Louis Gray
hopefully they all mysteriously get disconected - Gary Gannon
Louis did you forward your ports? - ralphsaunders
I'm pissed as well, I bought the Kindle 2 in pre-release and now the DX comes out. - Jim Lavin
the new kindle would be good if it was the same price. and offer the original cheaper or something - Edgar Rodríguez
They should tell those who just ordered the Kincle 2 that they can wait and get the Kindle DX - Mol, Santa Claws
ah apple fanboy macbreak opinion - Charbax
Volunteer edition? We're not getting paid? - Louis Gray
ah well - ralphsaunders
The Kindle DX is way too expensive. - Mol, Santa Claws
Maybe it is a first strike to fill the gap of all of the Newspapers going under. - Jim Lavin
hahaha louis :P - ralphsaunders
Run while you can Louis.. haha - Divya Mistry
Kindle 2 costs as much as a netbook, and Kindle DX costs as much as a cheap laptop... why do people buy Kindles? - Phil Essing
E-ink is awesome - Charbax
I agree kindles are too expensive atm - Richard J Placide
You should check E-Ink out - Charbax
I think they'll go down in price, I hope. - Mol, Santa Claws
It will get cheaper, technology always does. - ralphsaunders
they don't have a competitor at the moment either. - ralphsaunders
What license are TWiT shows released under? - Phillip Stewart
Little, I think it'll take a coupel of years before the prices go down on Kindle. - Divya Mistry
I dunno why they do...... The DX would be good for textbooks - Roberto Bonini
leo it is bigger. i like the kindle 2 cause is more portable. but the large screen is tempting. - Edgar Rodríguez
We need more competition - Richard J Placide
yeah - will be awhile - Roberto Bonini
Kindle has enough momentum right now.. so no point lowering price. - Divya Mistry
Phillip I think they are under creative commons, im not sure though. - ralphsaunders
They should put all the textbooks on Google Books and let people access them all on Kindle for $10 per month and sell the Kindle at $99 with a 2 year contract - Charbax
I'msure Bezos aleady is in talks with the Text Book Industry - Jim Lavin
Thanks. - Phillip Stewart
Non of that is it at all, it's all about Leo having bought one too quickly. - D Lets
Oy. Another chat room, too:-) - Francine Hardaway
TWiT is a call-in show this week? - Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Another chat-room? You mean another community ;) - Divya Mistry
I think there will be alot of priacy... infact i think that will be the kindles selling point to some students. - ralphsaunders
Kinda ! - D Lets
Is that wine you guys are drinking ???????????? - Roberto Bonini
Is the Kindle sturdy enough to endure the daily abuse it will need to endure, as a textbook replacement for students? - Phil Essing
Good point, Divya. - Francine Hardaway
phil - ralphsaunders
Phil, I think so. I don't own one, but I've handled one.. and it looks pretty sturdy. - Divya Mistry
bah! - ralphsaunders
heh - Phil Essing
I don't think it'll take "sit on a book" or "throw ur backpack in a corner" too many time... - Divya Mistry
Nah you would need Wacom stylus for the Kindle not multitouch - Charbax
What abuse? I'm a student and I can tell you the vast majority of our textbooks stay at home. - Justin Yost
What I was going to say was, it wont be treated like a textbook, its not going to be stuffed in a bag with a load of other stuff all the time. - ralphsaunders
The content creators never look ahead, they wait until they are losing their lunch. - Justin Luey
its hard to look ahead. - ralphsaunders
The Kindle design is awesome, what's he talking about - Charbax
the first kindle was crap - ralphsaunders
the kindle is the worlds best selling E-ink reader - Charbax
By far - Charbax
I wish my BB Bold had glass instead of this stupid plastic. - earl wallace
Ok, another question: at $500, e-textbooks would have to be significantly discounted in order to recoup the investment. - Phil Essing
well, that was not really a question, was it? - Phil Essing
The first kindle is awesome, about 500 thousand people love the Kindle 1 - Charbax
Kindle is the most popular already. - Charbax
by far more popular than Sony reader and other competitors - Charbax
Yes but the cost of books on the Kindle are usually a lot less, which makes up for the cost of the Kindle - Jim Lavin
Have you bought a college textbook lately, I spend minimum $500 a semester for books. - Justin Yost
phil, a student could easily download a pdf of the textbook over the internet. the DX is a really good opportunity in that sense. - ralphsaunders
Sam Davyson: Agreed. I still prefer to read a real book. I don't imagine myself curling-up in bed with a Kindle - Phil Essing
So this is the first comment thread I've seen is functioning as a real time chat room. - MacNeurotic
The larger kindle is about 2 things: 1)more money for textbook people since this will kill used book sales and 2)killing campus bookstores -- which more and more are owned by Barnes and Noble, an Amazon competitor - jccalhoun
I'd love to see something that is more accessible for people with disabilities like visual impairments. I liked what the Kindle was doing about the audio until the Author's Guild had to get in the middle. - Mol, Santa Claws
MacNeurotic, FriendFeed is a great platform for live events. - Louis Gray
I don't buy feeds on Kindle - Francine Hardaway
The elctronic books for the business school here are about half the price of the actual book. - Justin Yost
mac, get used to it, its the future :P - ralphsaunders
There you have it $19 per month for 2 years, and you could get the Kindle for $199 - Charbax
college textbooks are soooo expensive... if I were in school now, I'd jump on a kindle for textbooks right away - Landor Associates
How soon until my skype dies again? I say 10 minutes. - Louis Gray
I love the idea of e books for school - Francine Hardaway
Most students don't buy textbooks from the college bookstore, used or new on amazon. - Justin Yost
And you'd get unlimited books/blogs/textbooks for $19 per month on the Kindle - Charbax
ralphsaunders: sure, but that PDF is not going to be free. Textbooks aren't expensive because of the printing costs - Phil Essing
Sounds like another iFanboy show... - Jim Lavin
lol louis - ralphsaunders
Charbax, I see the informercial now - Francine Hardaway
Agree with Alex there - I do the same on my iPhone - Roberto Bonini
Or the bookstores off campus that tend to be independent stores. - Justin Yost
E-ink is 100 times better than LCD for reading a lot of text - Charbax
Jim - what would you prefer be discussed? - Louis Gray
This is a good show. Really enjoy watching and listening to smart folks. - David Damore
Skip the Kindle DX; wait for a full-colour version (or competitor) that supports comic books/graphic novels, at about $199-299, and you have a world-beater. - Shéa Bennett
Phil, if you go to the right places PDFs are avaliable free :) - ralphsaunders
until the Pixel Qi LCD comes out - Charbax
Color E-ink will never come - Charbax
the stanza app has free downloads - zephyrlily
@Sheamus... that would be cool. When? - Landor Associates
@Sam Davyson what major? Engineering here, we have to buy pretty much all of our textbooks which are easily some of the most expensive and fastet changing books - Justin Yost
@Charbax: Color E-ink will never come... Really? - David Damore
Sam, there is not. FriendFeed doesn't show a # of logins. - Louis Gray
@Landor Therein lies the question. :) It is coming, though. Remember Tom Hanks' character in Big? He was WAY ahead of his time. ;) - Shéa Bennett
char, didn't they say that about a TB HDD? - ralphsaunders
I buy a book and inside of 2 years the book is out of date. - Justin Yost
Having textbooks with audio would be good for visually impaired - Mol, Santa Claws
Louis, I just get a little tired of comparing everything to Apple devices, there are a lot more devices out there... - Jim Lavin
taking calls on TWIT is genius! that first call worked perfectly - Justin Luey
@Little Miss Disaster or dsylexic. - Justin Yost
Jim, I mentioned that myself in terms of everybody thinking they know what's coming from them, but it's been discussed for a decade. I brought up Sony's eReader. - Louis Gray
The Kindle Voice is not that bad... It is listenable... - Jim Lavin
I had a friend who had to scan in his textbooks to be able to read them, he was that dyslexic. - Justin Yost
It's better than the Kerswell computer voice :P - Mol, Santa Claws
the only way to know how many people are in the FF chat is if they sound off - guruvan (Rob Nelson)
I agree, I've had 4 different EReaders and the Kindle is the best I've used to date. - Jim Lavin
This call in for TWIT will raise TWIT to a whole new level! - earl wallace
Kurtzweil - Francine Hardaway
green text on black... that is 'old skool' - .LAG liked that
So sad, Marley and me. - Francine Hardaway
That would be nice, the library books tend to be too out of date here (Texas Tech University) and our professors specifically do tests that include material only from the books, same thing and a lot of other schools that I have friends at. - Justin Yost
It's interesting that such 'old fashioned' technology like a call-in is still a popular and perhaps pivotal feature for an internet show. - Shéa Bennett
Agree, Shéamus, could be a good feature. - Louis Gray
I love the call in capability, I think this add a lot to the show. - Jim Lavin
And now thy gonna start pimping audible... alex is particularly fond of it - Roberto Bonini
However if you are a liberal arts major you tend to not buy such expesnive books, aka English majors buy books to read, not actual textbookds. - Justin Yost
I'm in the middle of John Hodgman's Area of My Expertise and it's cool. - Mol, Santa Claws
@Justin Luey Leo tried talkshow on Net@Night for awhile, and I loved it. Always thought Leo should integrate it into more shows. Today it's a TWiT/Tech Guy mashup and it's gold. - MacNeurotic
@Sheamus... it's people communicating.... - .LAG liked that
As a graduate student, the Kindle DX native PDF reader looks great. Sort of regret the Kindle 2 purchase. - Jeremy Franklin
Okay, I'm going for dinner. - Mol, Santa Claws
I get some of my audiobooks from LibriVox http://librivox.org/ - Phillip Stewart
Good thing I didn't upgrade from Kindle 1 yet. Things will change again - Francine Hardaway
@Jeremy... seems like Amazon pissed off a lot of Kindle2 owners with the DX release... no upgrade deal, eh? - .LAG liked that
I regret the Kindle 2 purchase as well, but like Louis said, sometime you get bit being an early adopter, I'll probably get in line for a DX and give my Kindle 2 to my daughter. - Jim Lavin
Hope this TWiT is a success, I hope he does this more often. :) - Mol, Santa Claws
Talkshow sounds much better when it is only one person at a time., - Jim Lavin
NOOOOOOO!!!! - Gary Gannon
Star Trek Star Schmeck - Louis Gray
...I have to leave now. Haven't seen Star Trek yet... hiding! - .LAG liked that
I agree, no Star Trek! - Jim Lavin
hehe great film - Roberto Bonini
Yeah, I closed TWiT Live also. :P - Phillip Stewart
i saw it at imax..... - Roberto Bonini
Louis! It was really very good. Read my post. I was not a fan. - Francine Hardaway
I've never seen the tv show, or any of the other films, but i saw the new one last night and really liked it - Simon Wicks
dont do it! it just came out! - Gary Gannon
Simon, that's what I thought - Francine Hardaway
Chinese guys in brazil LOL - Roberto Bonini
I will read your post, Francine. - Louis Gray
@Louis Gray I'm with you! I'll watch the movie, but I never liked to the TV series - MacNeurotic
louis your internet might drop out anyway :p - ralphsaunders
@Louis Gray, why do you use burnurl in your tweets now? - Matthew
I'm seeing it this week. i love me some star trek - Edgar Rodríguez
The movie was very good. - John D Reasor
You dont need to have seen the tv shows to unerstand the film which is the best thing. You just wont understand a few of the jokes, like i didnt when other people were laughing. - Simon Wicks
Trekkers go to Nepal... Trekkies love Star Trek - Phil Essing
me too - i'm going to see it again - Roberto Bonini
Matthew, BurnURL is a ReadBurner project. The mood mining capabilities will play into a future release. - Louis Gray
And Skype died for me again. Fun! - Louis Gray
someone pls let us know when they stop spoiling it - Gary Gannon
told yah - ralphsaunders
Good timing loius - Roberto Bonini
(I am an advisor to ReadBurner) - Louis Gray
no spoilers... yet - Phil Essing
fix it Louis - Charbax
No problems, Roberto. I am dialing back in and being ignored. - Louis Gray
Star Trek = LOST? - Edgar Rodríguez
Ha - Louis Gray
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO - Roberto Bonini
Star Trek had tons of Lens Flare - Matthew
Louis, Louis, Louis...Skype is just not your friend, is it? ;) - Josh Haley
Skype always does this to me. Maybe I should upgrade my client. :) - Louis Gray
Louis you could dial back on Talkshoe and he can take you on there - Charbax
Get a PC :D - Josh Haley
talk about John Locke, pretty please - Edgar Rodríguez
@leolaporte "I grow up as a very young kid" LOL - D Lets
Bite me, Josh. :) - Louis Gray
Should I just bail on it and walk away? - Louis Gray
It's annoying that infinitelymeta keeps interrupting others. - Jeremy Franklin
Nooo, dont give up Louis! - Simon Wicks
Stick it out, Louis. It might get interesting ;P - Josh Haley
leo might be upset louis - ralphsaunders
Ring Ring Ring - Louis Gray
I agree, Don't give up Louis - Jim Lavin
i don't like the guy with the netbook. - Edgar Rodríguez
CGI vs using minutures for closeup shots of ships. Meh.... didint notice the difference much - Roberto Bonini
I never once thought about the fact that it was CG - Ken Sheppardson
Back? - Louis Gray
anyroom left to call in - Adrian Izquieta
No big ethical dilema - Ken Sheppardson
That has nothing to do with being a Star Trek fan, that's general SciFi - Ken Sheppardson
Let's talk about sports. - Louis Gray
louis apparently - ralphsaunders
Please mute the guy who is overtalking everyone else Leo - earl wallace
No breathing! - Daniel Rowley
I was holding my breath for 40 minutes! - Louis Gray
JJ didn't write it though - Matthew
He didn't write it - Ken Sheppardson
lol louis - ralphsaunders
...sports on TwiT LG? - .LAG liked that
Sports! - Louis Gray
OK, so... just total spoilers today - Ken Sheppardson
Star Trek !=Tech - Louis Gray
red shirt alert - zephyrlily
Leo does a great Peter Griffin from Family Guy. - Shéa Bennett
ughh, stilll haven't seen star trek - Adrian Izquieta
you spoiled the red shirt Leo - Matthew
Yeah, you have Leo - Ken Sheppardson
The Red Matter is from Alias! I'm almost sure. It's related to the Mueller Device. The fonts were Fringe-like. - Filipe Rodrigues
Every time you quote a character, you're spoiling it for somebody - Ken Sheppardson
simon pegg is in it? AWESOME - ralphsaunders
BTW, Kirk dies. - Ken Sheppardson
The guys who gav eht last lecture makes a cameo...... - Roberto Bonini
a red-shirt was killed? GD IT! it's ruined for me, now! - Phil Essing
Ken, BURRRRRN - ralphsaunders
I'm leaving. Don't want to be spoiled. will listen to this show after I see the movie. - Edgar Rodríguez
Kirk is still trapped in the Nexus. - earl wallace
No, Kirk dies in the movie. But they gave that away in the trailer ;-) - Ken Sheppardson
"I joined the Starfleet and all I got was this stupid red shirt" - zephyrlily
Coulda been "Nemesis" - Ken Sheppardson
Spoooooilers - Ken Sheppardson
hey, you stole my webname :P - ralphsaunders
Of course, smart people all over America are asking themselves: who would win a fist-fight, Jean-Luc Picard or Professor X? - Shéa Bennett
Picard...... - Roberto Bonini
Saw the first film opening night. - Ken Sheppardson
Kindle DX: allowing students to keep all the books they’re not going to read in one place. - Daniel Rowley
I got that in the first scene with the USS Kelvin... - Ken Sheppardson
"What was your favorite scene... no spoilers..." BWWWWHAAHAHAHAHA - Ken Sheppardson
Hmmmm... - Louis Gray
hehe impossible to choose :) - Roberto Bonini
My favorite part? Closing credits. - Louis Gray
lol louis - Chris Heath
Lol - Chriz
this week in trek - Jayesh
yeah i agree.. prefer the earlier films spacedock shots - Roberto Bonini
Should I just go grab the kids and put them on camera instead? - Louis Gray
yes louis - Chris Heath
yeah good idea loius - Roberto Bonini
I couldn't believe how they ████████ when the ████████ . And then when ████████ was on the ████████ and ████████ goes over to the ████████ ?!? ███████ing amazing. - Ken Sheppardson
Interesting that despite rave reviews, ST still grossed about $10m less than the mostly-panned Wolverine (which I enjoyed). Wolverine made $27m this weekend, too. You'd think the fanbases would be fairly equal. - Shéa Bennett
lol ken - Chris Heath
Jayesh: brilliant! I think we have this week's title. - Daniel Rowley
i agree daniel - Chris Heath
I'm going to put on a Red Shirt now to get out of this convo. - Louis Gray
don't do it louis.... you've got plenty of life left to live!!! - Chris Heath
Louis you should bring up a topic or they wont stop! - Jayesh
Louis, use a Vulcan mind-meld and get Leo to do the deathgrip on himself. - Shéa Bennett
hahaha - zephyrlily
I should start going Blue Man and bang my head on the video wall. - Louis Gray
Doses not look like they are going to stop.... - Roberto Bonini
THAT MAY WORK...... - Roberto Bonini
Break time - Chriz
55% of homes do not have land lines - Jim Lavin
34% - Chris Heath
5 million - Roberto Bonini
It's a good job Dvorak's not on this week! - Daniel Rowley
Bingo - Greg
hells yeah - ralphsaunders
Ok, that blue man plan b isint needed, loius - Roberto Bonini
'well you've got a live chat stream there so i might as well participate' - Chris Heath
friendfeed is an IRC killer - Charbax
I wouldm - ralphsaunders
I woudn't go that car charbaz - ralphsaunders
I have 4 voip lines and 3 cells..overkill just alittle (: - earl wallace
charbax, irc has tab-complete for usernames... that's a better feature that ff doesn't have - Chris Heath
I think i know which scene Ken is talking about..... - Roberto Bonini
friendfeed will be irc killer once friendfeed activates live filters - Charbax
I thought he said we were catching a break? - Louis Gray
frienfeed is activating live filters within a few weeks - Charbax
and i don't have to keep scrolling down on irc like i do with friendfeed embed. - ralphsaunders
i dunno.... - Roberto Bonini
@Louis He meant from Star Trek. - Shéa Bennett
You could then filter live chats with thousands of participants - Charbax
Ahhh - Louis Gray
SquareSpace is pretty slick! - Daniel Rowley
$15 a mth per domain - Greg
Is the Friendfeed beta online yet? - earl wallace
Damn Skype - Louis Gray
Leo, the problem with Friendfeed is the lack of mobile apps. It would be great to use Friendfeed on the go but I can't use it besides right in front of the laptop. - Sweyn Venderbush
yes - Phil Essing
If any one thing was going to kill IRC, I think it would have already done so in the past 15 years. - Tony, Paradox of FF
Leo's smooooooth. - Shéa Bennett
wallace, beta.friendfeed.com - ralphsaunders
this was friendfeedbeta then they rolled it out live - Greg
3x - I usually die every 20 minutes - Louis Gray
yeah but the beta went live last week?? - Roberto Bonini
Thanks Phil - earl wallace
earl wallace, you're using the beta now - Matthew
everyone laughed when the "Madea" actor was on screen - Alex Jordan
ralph, beta.friendfeed.com redirects to just friendfeed.com - Chris Heath
OH GOD! Thats so ugly - ralphsaunders
@Sweyn: Try FriendFeed ToGo -- mobile via Web/wap: http://www.fftogo.com/ - .LAG liked that
yeah i just realised chris, it seems they made it live. - ralphsaunders
or freindfeed.com/iphone - Roberto Bonini
www.twiplog.com - Roberto Bonini
So, Squarespace is a time-portal back to the mid-90s? - Shéa Bennett
HAHA yeah - Roberto Bonini
Twip as the cupon code... hmmmmm - Roberto Bonini
ralph that switch happened about two weeks ago - Chris Heath
Shéamus: seems so! - Daniel Rowley
I'm offf... bye - Roberto Bonini
SquareSpace a place where the Squares go to play. - Tim Moore
What did they just say, that Squarespace makes iPhone versions automagically? - Colin
@Tim: ouch! - .LAG liked that
20% - Jayesh
20% I cut mine off last week - zephyrlily
colin, yes... their back end is amazing - Chris Heath
I know of it but Lag and Roberto but they aren't native app and they don't have notifications and they are limited by the worst phone browsers. I would like a windows mobile app as there are many iphone apps already. Nambu looks very nice. - Sweyn Venderbush
Wow, that is incredible, great idea... - Colin
Is it Terraccota that squarespace uses? It's either that or Hadoop that's the super sexy library for java and spreading work across a ton of computers *needs to learn it* - Patrick Sullivan
Has anyone else seen this? http://www.runpee.com/#app=38..., lets you know when it's best to visit the toilet! - Daniel Rowley
They should take this survey in Canada I bet this l% is lower - Greg
@LAG you already know... LOL! - Tim Moore
Likely 20% got cut-off in the last year thanks to the economic climate. - Shéa Bennett
i'm just like alex... i only want one number - Chris Heath
Louis uses Skype for everything too ;) - Josh Haley
/blocks Josh - Louis Gray
Why isn't the comment link at the bottom of the thread instead of the top? They should switch the direction of comments if they continue to try and emulate Twitter... - Tim Moore
@Sweyn: good points... FF is just dying for some developer to come along write an iPhone app for it...or Windows mobile, if you must. ;) - .LAG liked that
Phone numbers will be like domain names in 3-5 years. You'll buy one, take it everywhere (cell/home/etc), and keep it for life (assuming you make renewal payments). - Shéa Bennett
I agree Tim - Sweyn Venderbush
If you click on the timestamp, it puts the post in a new tab, where the comment box is at the bottom - Tony, Paradox of FF
Forget the red shirt Louis, you know which shirt you should be wearing right now...on air...in front of thousands. - Josh Haley
tim moore go here: http://friendfeed.com/twit-co... and scroll to the bottom - Chris Heath
click on the time under the title of the post it will open a comment box at the bottom - Greg
Maybe I should go off video and do that for ya, Josh. - Louis Gray
I much prefer the sound quality of a land line for me and the people I call. - Gregg Scott
DO EET - Josh Haley
LAG there are already a ton of iphone apps but what about windows mobile, symbian, and android apps? Nothing there. - Sweyn Venderbush
Does anyone know when Google Voice will be available to Public? - earl wallace
EyeCheeWahWah!!! @Chris thanks for that. - Tim Moore
tim, just add ?embed=1 to any friendfeed chat url to get that... (or click the timestamp twice) - Chris Heath
@Sweyn: following the money, I suppose... - .LAG liked that
I can't believe nobody has mentioned Star Trek. That movie is HUGE. - Shéa Bennett
yeash.///// - ralphsaunders
The phone numbers available in google voice are USA only and only certain area codes - Greg
@Chris thanks for that info. - Tim Moore
sheamus... how long have you been watching? - Chris Heath
@Chris The entire time. ;) - Shéa Bennett
Google Voice is US only though isn't it? - Gregg Scott
@Louis Gray, what other podcasts do you do? - Matthew
FFUndercats, ReadBurner and others. Social Geeks every once in a while. - Louis Gray
bastards - ralphsaunders
cool - Matthew
@LAG the difference is that the apps for WM are so much more expensive than iPhone apps. The IM+ app is $40 as apposed to $6 or less on the iPhone. I would pay $40 for a good FF WM app. - Sweyn Venderbush
I just dig how I don't have a Kindle, haven't seen Star Trek and don't have Google Voice. Quite the week for me to join... - Louis Gray
I would use Google Voice, but I moved to a different state after I got it, so the old area code # doesn't do me a lot of good now. - Tony, Paradox of FF
Friendfeed undercats? - Charbax
Darn right .. the USA biggest trading partner shut out - Greg
Don't mock us Leo, it's tough in Canada. - Colin
@Mathew howdy from Forest City! - earl wallace
Sounds cool - Charbax
well, in most countries, the only things you can't have on itunes is TV and Movies - Jackson Pollock
Whats up Earl - Matthew
Louis, start licking the screen and making obscene gestures with your hands. - Shéa Bennett
Skype desktop phone FTW! http://img25.imageshack.us/my... - Tim Moore
Stop making me laugh, Shéamus. - Louis Gray
@Earl Wallace, in the Queen City - Matthew
I have a US address for iTunes...it's what I cut and paste form the U of W website. - Gregg Scott
Grew up there in CLT escaped in 1999 to the boondocks - earl wallace
I hate reading people Liking songs on FriendFeed. It has no value to me. - Gregg Scott
Also Hulu is a no go but the networks gladly sell their feeds to the canadian networks - Greg
Greg, you can hide any service on FriendFeed. You can block Last.fm and Pandora. - Louis Gray
some bands have official mp3 releases on their websites... i've added a few of those mp3 urls to blip.fm for my favorites - Chris Heath
I escaped for a while, I lived in Boone for about 8 years - Matthew
I thought last.fm stopped that particular paid model *shrug* - Tony, Paradox of FF
So, Louis, Duke Nukem fan? - Shéa Bennett
I lived in Boone while at ASU for 2 quarters - earl wallace
0-4 - Louis Gray
on beautiful Cape Fear ---> - Chris Heath
seeqpod seems to be down now too. Dead or not-dead? - Doug Slater
Thanks Louis. I actually don't see much of it on FF. As long as a user writes a preamble to give the song context it has value. Just a link is meaningless as would be a TinyURL without an introduction. - Gregg Scott
This happens everytime a studio closes - Matthew
Leo she deserves a prize. - Gregg Scott
I use free software - Greg
Can I play the semi-completed Duke Nukem on my Kindle DX while dressed as a Vulcan and chatting to my 'girlfriend' on Google Voice? No? I thought this was tech? - Shéa Bennett
I would argue this value is lessened in the world of mobile computing. But I won't slam the sponsor. - Louis Gray
Alex looking at your www.TWiPlog.com site and the headings aren't centered. Is it hard to realign those design elments? - Gregg Scott
@louis eventually they'll launch "Go To My Cell Phone" - Tim Moore
But you shouldn't need it if you have a laptop. - Louis Gray
Leo's a hero. - Daniel Rowley
or "Go To My Home" - Matthew
You know her Skype ID too, Leo. - Gregg Scott
Leo I will take on of those Shiny Heil's - Tim Moore
say tricaster! - pmclem
I can't wait for GoToMyHouse. Great for late night's out. - Shéa Bennett
A new mixer - Greg
Yea she is - Chriz
Leo's flirtin with this chick - Tim Moore
Smooth operator. - Daniel Rowley
Leo's puttin' on all the moves. - Shéa Bennett
leo i could use a gotomyassist.com account... that citrix product is the bomb! - Chris Heath
I'd actually ask for that Mackie since he's about to drop it for a euphonix desk - Tim Moore
Yay! Lost again - Louis Gray
@Tim... .LOLz...and he can't even see what she looks like. HA! - .LAG liked that
Feel free to help out with this ep on the wiki http://wiki.twit.tv/wiki... - Phillip Stewart
i acutally have a gotmyassist account now, but not having to pay for it would be nice - Chris Heath
@LAG he's old, he doesn't care... - Tim Moore
hahahaha! - .LAG liked that
"Other participants of this game may receive the home version of this game for hours of product placement fun!" - Devon Blugh
Wonder if Louis's router is disconnecting him - Greg
possibly greg - Chris Heath
Scoble is the largest FF evangelist, much respect to LG! - .LAG liked that
Friendfeed rules - Josh Haley
It's starting to be a killer app - Charbax
http://threadedtweets.com - I launched this today. ;) - Colin
Love it, I do - D Lets
Ceph Aloha - Jason Robertshaw
I'm on twit! - Josh Haley
FriendFeed's great! - Daniel Rowley
Yeah I love Threaded Tweets http://threadedtweets.com - Jeff
Love FF - Matthew
He defienately knows the FF dog and pony routine. - Tim Moore
http://tinyurl.com/qaphuk is this same conversation on ThreadedTweets. - Colin
Charbax, who is showing up as the first post now? :P - Phillip Stewart
Is Louis in a geological unstable area? Shakey cam - Jason Robertshaw
Sorry Jason, I'll hold still - Louis Gray
Cool Colin!! - Jeff
great to see Louis on Twit - Gunny doesn't side-hug™
I"m over overwhelm - D Lets
she doesn't participate - Josh Haley
Isn't Kim Kardashian the daughter of deceased former OJ Simpson attorney? - shelter watch
I still have not figured out FF - Jason Robertshaw
I have about a 50% return - Matthew
I Hide all Tweets that don't have comments or likes.. - Jeff
I still prefer the old pop-out real-time widget. - Gregg Scott
hey Gunny - Josh Haley
Kim Kardashian is a waste of human skin - Tim Moore
me too Gregg Scott, I like the avatars and the speech bubbles - Matthew
thx to Micah's grease monkey script, all @ replies from twitter get hidden - Gunny doesn't side-hug™
Thanks, Chris. My bad. - Louis Gray
What is the URL to see Scoble's feed stream? - Charbax
charbax: i just linked it up above - Chris Heath
Matthew. I prefer the social media icons, dialogue bubbles and font size. - Gregg Scott
Evening Dan!!! - Darren Rowley
friendfeed.com/username/friends - Chris Heath
Gregg Scott, there's a great greasemonkey script that brings back the social media icons - Matthew
Cool I wonder what bandwidth friendfeed is using per scobleizer/friends type stream - Charbax
Darren: howdy! - Daniel Rowley
Thx to Micah there's some great FF scripts - Gunny doesn't side-hug™
I'm a newbie to Greasemonkey. It runs inside the Firefox browser, correct? - Gregg Scott
yes - Matthew
it's an addon - Matthew
FriendFeed is missing the easy @replies for people we are responding too. - Gregg Scott
what't the talkshoe thing - Jackson Pollock
talkshoe.com - Matthew
yeah I think some sort of @reply system on FF would be nice - Gunny doesn't side-hug™
i get that - Jackson Pollock
u need a us phone? - Jackson Pollock
there is a friendfeed iphone app - Tim Moore
http://fftogo.com is a great mobile app that's cross-platform. - Shéa Bennett
buddyfeed is the app - Tim Moore
Leo use the old pop-out widget for iPhone. http://friendfeed.com/realtim... - Gregg Scott
real-time on iphone will use bandwidth - Charbax
@reply for what? someones comment? - Tony, Paradox of FF
threatened? amazon should be happy - Jackson Pollock
yeah, people either really want nested comments or really hate them - Tony, Paradox of FF
Soon enough Android will tell you which supermarkets has cheapest food to buy - Charbax
and recommend you what to cook - Charbax
I do this already with my Treo 700p I'm always looking up stuff on amazon when I'm shopping - Gunny doesn't side-hug™
I wish Sprint had an Android phone - Gunny doesn't side-hug™
Gregg, how do you get to the realtime page from FF (w/o clicking your link) - zephyrlily
I wish Qik supported the G1. - Daniel Rowley
haha I came to the twit room on buddyfeed and the app crashed - Tim Moore
I like androids and food ;-) - guruvan (Rob Nelson)
I wish it supported the Treo - Gunny doesn't side-hug™
Thats if you make sure to install the critical update to the 32bit version BEFORE installing apps in it - Greg
hate that dog - Josh Haley
how do i find it from inside FF though, i couldn't before until you showed the link - zephyrlily
how u feeling Josh? still have thousand dragons throat? - Gunny doesn't side-hug™
well there's your problem. - Jackson Pollock
I've always suspected MS's paperclip 'helper' in Office was responsible for the boon in serial killers in the 1990s. "I see you're writing a ransom note..." - Shéa Bennett
bearable for now, but yeah still breathing fire. :p - Josh Haley
You don't--it's gone, baby. Cut and paste or add to bookmarks... - Gregg Scott
WinFS dead? - Jackson Pollock
no RSS is dead - Gunny doesn't side-hug™
oh, ok. thx - zephyrlily
I used to scream at paperclip and smash fist down on keyboard. Search Puppy caught my wrath on more than one occasion as well - Tim Moore
gunny; how's that? i'd say it's more alive than ever - Jackson Pollock
a throw back to yesterday's gilmor gang show - Gunny doesn't side-hug™
had to be there I guess :p - Gunny doesn't side-hug™
You're better off if you weren't, Gunny. - Louis Gray
jackson, he was referring to gilmor gang yesterday - ralphsaunders
yea, considering podcasting is all rss - Jackson Pollock
everything - ralphsaunders
still at like a panther stage - Jackson Pollock
maybe puma - Jackson Pollock
Firefox is dead; long live Chrome. - Shéa Bennett
I love the idea of SquareSpace but the design elements aren't quite there yet in the sites I've looked at. Very close though. - Gregg Scott
I like windows7 when i'm forced to be on windows. Vista, not so much. A lot of screaming and smash fist down on keyboard repeatedly - Tim Moore
The RC will expire on June 1, 2010. Starting on March 1, 2010, your PC will begin shutting down every two hours. - Darren Rowley
Wish chromium would come - Gunny doesn't side-hug™
brian daniel eisenberg should talk about the atom processor like he said before the show - Chris Heath
Douglas Bowman being hired at Twitter is quite a development. - Gregg Scott
I'm running WIndows 7 on my Netbook and Q1 and both perform better than the original XP. - Jim Lavin
but they did start over though, in 2005. they began all over again with vista code - Jackson Pollock
2004* - Jackson Pollock
He's lying! - Tim Moore
Woo pageviews are up today :D - ralphsaunders
A swedish company took Google Chrome, took the code and fixed it's holes and gives it free..Iron - earl wallace
looks like the 9 cell battery not the 6 - Gunny doesn't side-hug™
@Gunny I agree - Tim Moore
my 3 cell Wind gets 3 hrs - Gunny doesn't side-hug™
turn off push and pull dude - Tim Moore
i get really good battery life on my iphone - Chris Heath
Skype died again so I'm all done. :) - Louis Gray
really? - ralphsaunders
My G1 OS updated this week, it's fantastic. - Daniel Rowley
your not going to come back them louis - ralphsaunders
Poor Louis... - Jim Lavin
I REALLY want an Android phone - Gunny doesn't side-hug™
Thanks for your participation Louis. - Gregg Scott
Good job Louis; next time let the other guys get a word in. - Shéa Bennett
that sucks Louis - Matthew
@Louis Gray, you should start your own podcast - Matthew
rokr? think that was suppose to be razr - Jackson Pollock
Louis should do a 19 minute podcast. - Daniel Rowley
1st gen iPhones... Turn off Location services! - Tommy Bevins
i've had days where i forgot to pause the ipod on my iphone when i unplugged the jack ... it didn't put audio out on the speaker, but kept running the songs and it ran down the battery by the early afternoon... - Chris Heath
No Motorola had the first phone that worked with iTunes called the Rocker - Jim Lavin
That's was hilarious, Daniel Rowley! - Gregg Scott
I think a phone should just be a phone, not an all in one smart phone - zephyrlily
3G I never use. WiFi always on. I browse internet about 20 minutes a day, I do about 15 minutes of talking a day, send about 30 sms a day. Maybe an hour of ipod a day. Lasts me 2-3 days on one charge. - Jackson Pollock
zephyrlily i disagree... i like having an all-in-one device - Chris Heath
my phone is a phone, but my iPod Touch is awesome - Matthew
Maybe we will start a podcast. Hmmmm - Louis Gray
i have to recharge my itouch daily, i'd hate to do that with an iphone - zephyrlily
@Louis Gray, keep us posted Louis - Matthew
Droppin Science with Louis Gray - Gunny doesn't side-hug™
zephyrlily i get 1.5-2 days on my iphone - Chris Heath
this week in friendfeed? - Tim Moore
The Gray Area with Louis Gray - Matthew
but most of the time i just recharge the iphone overnight so i'm topped off - Chris Heath
My 1st Gen iPod Touch battery will die based on WiFi use but mostly my screen brightness setting. - Gregg Scott
did they make the iphone with 2 batts? - zephyrlily
no sephyrilily - Matthew
zep; nop - Jackson Pollock
zephyrlily, you can get a battery pack case... i don't have one - Chris Heath
The Blackberry outsold the Iphone but different markets and cultures. - earl wallace
Louis count me in if you want a co-host - Jim Lavin
earl... blackberry has a buyonegetone deal - Chris Heath
Droppin' Science and Skype Calls with Louis Gray. - Daniel Rowley
@carlosgustavo I'll follow ya as soon as I get of TWIT, OK? - D Lets
so they didn't make that much money but moved twice as many units as they would have normally - Chris Heath
don't cha just love irish - Jackson Pollock
@carlosgustavo i would follow you but it's all in some lanquage I cannot read ;) - Tim Moore
sue. you shouldn't sue. americans always want to sue. they're pro consumer, not pro company. - Jackson Pollock
USA I believe is the most litigious country in the world - Greg
Possible topic: Myspace Megan Meyers federal legislation? - shelter watch
if we didn't have lawyers we wouldn't need lawyers - Jackson Pollock
How would someone gain credentials to be a "software expert witness"? - earl wallace
740 - Greg
@leolaporte It's really not that long it didn't really start till 3:40 - D Lets
---- End Of Show --- ] - ralphsaunders
Feel free to Subscribe to me on FF or follow me on Twitter. @greggscott - Gregg Scott
TWiT 194 - This Week in Trek - the volunteer edition - Chris Heath
good show, good shoe....well done Leo & Co. - guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Nice Title Chris! - Gregg Scott
Chris you need to post that on IRC. - Gregg Scott
Goodnight!... oh, not me! - Daniel Rowley
good show. liked using FF as the backchannel... - .LAG liked that
Quickly turned sound off to not hear the spoilers. :P - Phillip Stewart
@LAG yeah FF works for me I hate the IRC channels - Tim Moore
twit just had a Moment of Win - Josh Haley
This my best TWIT ever! - earl wallace
I like GN DN - Tim Moore
Chris I pimped your title in IRC. - Gregg Scott
the red shirt always gets it...right away - guruvan (Rob Nelson)
dammit! GNDN.COM is already taken. - Tim Moore
i want to see it again - zephyrlily
It was a great episode! The caller interaction must be part of the show now. - Justin Luey
they said wynona rider was spock's mom a year ago - Chris Heath
red shirt guy thread on friendfeed via kshep: http://friendfeed.com/kshep... - Chris Heath
the red shirt guy always got it - Chris Heath
Leo you have to control this chat room - D Lets
6 hours - Charbax
hail numb tongue - zephyrlily
@leolaporte It's really not that long it didn't really start till 3:40 - D Lets
The chat on friendfeed will eventually be filtered by "likes" when they add likes for comments and provide filters in real-time to only show liked commentors - Charbax
still just about 2 hours - guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Darn, sorry I missed it. Will look forward to the podcast! - jcunwired
Leo, the glasses are empty - zephyrlily
I have been using the TWITTY app and its pretty good! - earl wallace
poor Brian...gonna explode! - guruvan (Rob Nelson)
My husband will know who the heck Rachel is - Rachel
the updated Twitterrific iPhone apps is very nice - Matthew
lol rachel - Chris Heath
i use LaTWiT - Chris Heath
cya friendfeeders... i'll bbl - Chris Heath
Adios! - Daniel Rowley
COOL - Charbax
Becky for the motherflippin win - Matthew
Becky + Dvorak + Molly is cool - Charbax
Tahnks Leo! I did'nt think FF would work for me but it's really nice! - earl wallace
Hope they have the wine for next week :) - Harvey Birdman
where there is dvorak there is wine - zephyrlily
Thanks for having me on. That was awesome! - Rachel
It was great chatting/posting with all of you.good night - earl wallace
Damn, dream come true to sit around and shoot the sheet with Leo, and I have to take my Mom to dinner instead! - jcunwired
Where was Ozzy today? - shelter watch
Thank you for an interesting show today. - Ed Boutros
awesome show today Leo! For being fairly last minute i think it turned out great. - Chris Heath
Dunno if anybody's reading these after the fact, but something at least tech-related in the Star Trek discussion...slight spoiler contained...Cryptic is working on an ST MMO, set about 50 years after Voyager I believe. Anyway, they have been updating their news feed once or twice a week with a story called "The Path to 2409," (http://www.startrekonline.com/fiction) which follows the... more... - David E. Mullins
Just listened via podcast. Love the TalkShoe integration, Leo! - casey wright
Yeah, worked out really well. - Roberto Bonini
great listen, wide-ranging, funny, intelligent, witty, spiritual, and they serve good coffee too - randulo
how to i get to the chat - Adrian Izquieta
Daniel Brusilovsky
Got all the cables to connect my MacBook Pro to my 37" HD TV at home. Not bad! http://twitpic.com/4yaix
Got all the cables to connect my MacBook Pro to my 37" HD TV at home. Not bad! http://twitpic.com/4yaix
Leo Laporte
Live now: Leo Laporte, The Tech Guy radio show on the Premiere Radio Networks. Discuss here...
Hiya - Matthew
Greetings! - Aaron Merhoff
hey guys - BrandonArrindell
Still feel actually going outside and feelign the sun and going physically to a coffee shop and meeting friends is a heck of a lot better than using twitter - Greg
Calacanis's new podcast This Week in Startups is a great idea. Hope you talk about it today on TWIT. Follow my startup @LeannoSoftware - Derrick Tittsworth
Twitter has it's place, for what it is, - Stan Augustyniewicz
Watching Leo on the new PC TWiT program. I must say, it is awesome! Thanks to all that contributed to this great tool! - Aaron Merhoff
Hello folks! - Wario
PC TWiT program?? really?? - ian
Why is this better than the irc chat room? - Willowdale
don't know if it's better, just another option - Matthew
Hmmm, Watching on Live.Twit.tv and wishing I could hear the caller audio... doesn't really work so well if you dont hear the question :) - Roy Herrod
Not sure if "Better"... just different. If we could window this (like we used to) then it might get better than IRC. - Stan Augustyniewicz
cough cough Ustream cough cough - Matthew
some callers are just annoying so there's a plus - min
@Willowdate not better... different. One difference is you can go back and read all the comments. - archaictree
What do you mean by window this? - Willowdale
click the timestamp twice Willow and you will get a mini pop up - Matthew
Curious why stations want callers muted. Isn't there a delay for f-bombs and such? - Peter Svensk
True @archaictree. It is much more permanent. - Willowdale
you can come back in the future and add comments here too - russellcoleman
I think they want it muted so that you tune into the stations. - Willowdale
video killed the radio star - russellcoleman
Thanks for the explanation, Leo. Short and sweet. - Peter Svensk
For those that are interested, the PC TWiT tool I mentioned is found here: http://digg.com/d1pTL3. - Aaron Merhoff
Thanks for the response Leo! :) - It makes sense - Roy Herrod
Leo is living in the future....about 40 seconds in radio time - min
Hey why is the apple store offline this morning!?!?!?!? - Mike Koenig
Pizza - Matthew
Pizza Soup - Matthew
ministry of Sony soup - min
cool, you can edit your posts live - min
I'll Do It Live ! ! ! - Matthew
first time on the friend feed chat - Adrian Izquieta
Same here, Adrian. - Plusungood
WPRO Providence, welcome. join the enlightened - min
the 4th BeeGees? - min
ehh, got to go burp the baby - Adrian Izquieta
anyword on aperture 3??? - Adrian Izquieta
Will Jason C be on TWIT to talk about his new startup podcast? - Derrick Tittsworth
Nope, your google profile doesn't show up for me - Matthew
amazed at how good the video looks lately - Adrian Izquieta
Adrian, as am I. this is amazing. Has come full circle from the days of Leo on TV - Derrick Tittsworth
Leo, I was just watching http://live.twit.tv using my PS3's browser on my HD TV, and I must say. You look really good in HD, and on TV again! - Dakota O'Neill
yes, Ustream is stuttering - Matthew
I'll check out seismic but I am pretty happy with tweete. Even the free version has hardly any ads - Adrian Izquieta
Ustream was doing that earlier but its ok now - Greg
I resort to bg only as a last resort due to it buffering every 20-30 mins here - Greg
I am fairly lucky, have comcast 8mb down. Not the fastest but pretty good - Adrian Izquieta
I have close to 8Mb down 1.5Mb up here - Greg
although it is often much faster at least on speedtest.net - Adrian Izquieta
only problem with listening live is I'll have to find another podcast to listen to on the commute - Adrian Izquieta
no adobe for me, happy with preview and pdf pen - Adrian Izquieta
No kidding. Preview/Quick Look FTW. - Plusungood
Leo, why would my youtube video display wider than normal in my wordpress blgo - www.aboutfreealncewriting.com? http://www.aboutfreelancewriting.com/2009... - Anne Wayman
Your YouTube video is the same width as your written content. It looks fine on Safari 3 browser. - Gregg Scott
this is the first time I figured out how to ask someone I am following a question- did you set up something special to allow this or am I just missing out on how to direct message someone I am following. I had tweet deck on my screen but it was hogging too much memory- I think. - Karen Hansen
tweetdeck definitely has some leaks - Matthew
haven't really use tweetdeck. Not too impressed with adobe air - Adrian Izquieta
greg, in chrome it's wider this time than it should, glad it look okay in safari - Anne Wayman
Hey- I see Richard Branson is in your followers, cool! BTW I had your father as an advisor at UC. - Karen Hansen
Ya took over a day to unisntall Adobe Air off one computer here and Adobe support did not come up with a fix rather another user did. Never reinstalled it - Greg
adobe loves to do that. they install ton of other stuff along with their products - Adrian Izquieta
Adrian, tweetdeck confuses me - Anne Wayman
tweetie is my favorite so far. Very simple and clean - Adrian Izquieta
So duh- then this is friend feed that is allowing us to ask these questions, but then how can we get such access to folks with just basic Twitter, or can we not, or how does the direct message work? THX for all the support here. I started Twitter just last night after hearing Leo encourage us to use it for other things, for example, I am a fairy big activist - I see PETA had us signing a petition last night right after I began following them. - Karen Hansen
go to twitter.com and do it from there. - Adrian Izquieta
check this pic out, it's where my ustream froze. http://img27.imageshack.us/img27... - Matthew
THX again- I also sign up with Carbonite on the Leo special, - works great, thx much everyone- I am off and back to work. - Karen Hansen
leo, a possiblility is to turn off security and enalbe mac address filtering - Adrian Izquieta
Adrian, no iphone ;( - Anne Wayman
lol matthew - Anne Wayman
no iphone?? - Adrian Izquieta
Adrian, isn't that required for Tweetie? - Anne Wayman
they also have a desktop version, and it's pretty good - Adrian Izquieta
I believe it's at atebits.com - Adrian Izquieta
ah, 'cause tweetie.com isn't where I want to go - Anne Wayman
it's only for osx though - Adrian Izquieta
yeah, I see that -sigh - Anne Wayman
get a mac, you won't regret it - Adrian Izquieta
I know Adrian, I was in a mac store the other day... one may be headed my way, but not today. - Anne Wayman
good luck, I switched 2 yrs ago and haven't looked back - Adrian Izquieta
no chopstics leo?? - Adrian Izquieta
what kind of sushi is that leo? - Dakota O'Neill
Leo, can I see the ball, I've heard you talk about it but havne't seen it - Adrian Izquieta
Leo sits on this 65-cm blue ball http://www.gophersport.com/product... - Dakota O'Neill
thanks - Adrian Izquieta
they should have someone typing the questions into something like ping.com so we could at least read the questions - Adrian Izquieta
leo, the apple store is currently down! - Adrian Izquieta
Did Leo buy anything recently? - Plusungood
don't know, but usually when apple store goes down something new is coming out - Adrian Izquieta
Well, yeah. And it's usually whatever Leo bought most recently. - Plusungood
Hi! - Raymond Ngo
Back one more question, how can I be sure I have set up my twitter account so that others can direct message me? I see one person I am following me has me set up with DM on- sorry for the moron questions- multi tasking and short on time - Karen Hansen
http://d.seesmic.com/seesmic... New Seesmic Desktop with Twitter & Facebook - Don Bonaddio
Leo love your show look forward to it every week. - David
MacBook Update, since Leo bought them. - Plusungood
I think once its back online, it will be a new line of cheaper Macs "Cross's Fingers" hopefully! - Dakota O'Neill
cheap Macs is a paradox - Matthew
cats like the warmth - Matthew
No Ossy today Leo :'( - Dakota O'Neill
Whoops iPod died while listening to the audio stream. - Plusungood
audacity will record wave mix - Matthew
IE8 has private browsing also, but still prefer firefox - David
store is back but looks like nothing new - Don Bonaddio
So who's on the show today, Leo? - Derrick Tittsworth
Apple Store is back up, don't notice anything different, really. - Plusungood
mannn, Summer's 1st Geek movie, "Wolverine" was a dud, 37% on Rotten Tomatoes - jtothea
TWiT about to start! - Michael Olsen
Leo, we need a new thread for this weeks TWiT! - Simon Wicks
Wilford Tibbetts
Does FF have a desktop app like Twhirl or TweetDeck?
Feedalizer is a desktop application for Friendfeed. I forgot if you just want to have a pop up button FF notifer works best. - Kim Landwehr
Also check out Alert Thingy. http://www.alertthingy.com/alertth... - Eric Geller
With the beta version of FriendFeed I don't feel the need of a desktop app for it. - Cristian
Yeah ... you can just do a popup window of the browser. - Chip Duford
my understanding is the the new desktop.seesmic application is going to integrate Friendfeed and Identi.ca in the near future. - Joe Magennis
Within Twhirl you can add friendfeed, just like twitter ;) so Twhirl is a Friendfeed client. - americanm
http://friendfeed.com/setting... , probably the closest thing to official I've seen. - Kerry
yes, its called friendfeed notifier look under TOOLS after you log into FF - Ken Bernard
Don McAllister
Reconfiguring my old MacPro. Splitting mirrors, re-installing OSX, migrating users, it's all happening here.
Leo Laporte
Flock Ditching Firefox, Moving To Google Chrome - http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
Flock, a social-focused browser startup that has raised nearly $30 million in venture funding, has ceased building on top of the open source Firefox browser, say multiple sources. The next version of the Flock browser will be built on Google’s open source Chrome browser platform. The last version of Flock was released in October 2008. - Leo Laporte
Maybe they should be looking at building their own on WebKit instead of trying to work on someone else's browser based on WebKit. Seems like they're trying to latch onto an identity instead of making their own identity. - William Stearns from twhirl
This makes me think they don't really have a clue about their own product - and it wouldn't be the first time in Flock development history. I like the Flock idea and I used it in the past, though. The article on techcrunch.com features now an update, where Flock devs state they "haven’t ceased development efforts on the Mozilla platform". - Opensource Obscure
Very interesting. I'm currently using Flock but what I like is the integration of social networking AND the ability to use Firefox add-ons. There are several I can't live without and, if the next version doesn't support them (or similar), I'll just use Firefox. I know Chrome has promised extensions so maybe it won't matter. - Herb Hernandez
@William: No I think using chrome is not a bad idea at all. Instead of building in all the plugin support(eg. offline support) etc. its easier this way and people would be more at home. There is no harm is latching onto the WebKit identity. More so since they would be adding on features and some people find them very useful. - Siddharth Mitra
This is a good idea. Chrome is a better browser than firefox, faster on the whole. - Rajesh
"No, we haven't switched. We've looked at it, just as we've looked at Mozilla 2, and will look at whatever else is promising." - Matthew Willis, Flock Employee http://is.gd/lDOO - Ken Sheppardson
mac fans won't like this... chrome's windows only right? - Juho Tunkelo
Leo Laporte
been using it since last summer - Russell Wagner
Peter: Is that how you decide which apps to use? So, did you meet Bill Gates or Steve Jobs drunk at a party? - KyleHase from twhirl
Daniel Brusilovsky
Re: Startup to Broadcast Its Every Move With 24×7 Live Video - http://mashable.com/2009...
"I'm a big fan of Tatango, and I think TatangoTV takes it to the next level. Great job!" - Daniel Brusilovsky
Benjamin Golub
The people behind Woot have a great sense of humor - Benjamin Golub
Yes they do. <3 them. - EricaJoy
Leo Laporte
Retweeting @bduncan3rd: How to turn customers into pirates. http://torrentfreak.com/how-to-... - right on!
Eric P
When I post something to a room it ought to appear in my feed too. It seems silly that it doesn't.
. - Eric P
agreed - this has been an outstanding requested feedback for quite awhile... - mike "glemak" dunn
Agreed! - Joe Dawson
Agree. I keep looking if it was posted or not. - AJ Batac
Could do, so long as it doesn't duplicate if you post the same thing to more than 1 room. Being able to post to multiple rooms and your feed from the bookmarklet would be my preference. - Kol Tregaskes
I'm with Kol - Alexandros Georgiadis
Agree with Kol - xero
I agree with Kol too - Alejandro
Not being able to direct a post to both a room and my feed led me to either "reshare" the post (which is obviously not very efficient) or not to use the rooms as much as the Friendfeed platform needs. - Brad Kligerman
I use friendfeed to consolidate my content creation. I can import almost anything in the world but the rest of my FF activity. Pretty silly isn't it? - Antonio Piccolboni
I like the present method. I would not like my room feeds to clutter my feed. - Wins Fern
I'm on the fence but I think you have to look at it like you would look at a club or meeting IRL. All of your friends don't want to hear you talking to your bridge club or your model airplane enthusiasts guild. That stuff stays compartmentalized. - Laura Norvig
you can send room feeds to lists thus just for you... - mike "glemak" dunn
Could either be an option when you join the room ("Show my posts to this room in my main feed") or a per-item option, i.e. you should be able to post to more than one room and/or your main feed at the same time. - Ken Sheppardson
Usually you join rooms because the people who are interested in the same thing are the only ones who are going to want to see our post. - Mathew™ one of a kind
Kol +1 - Voyagerfan5761
Room members are a targeted audience different than our subscribers. Posts can very well belong to multiple rooms and one's own feed. In the interest of efficiency and a single thread for a single topic, we should be able to target posts to multiple rooms and our feed. - Alexandros Georgiadis
You are all right, but just let me import my rooms. It's an RSS feed after all. - Antonio Piccolboni
i put rooms into my lists which seems to be a good compromise :) - mike "glemak" dunn
Leo Laporte
Here's a question for @kshep and all the Twitter API experts out there: is it possible to write a script that auto-blocks phony followers on my account? I'd love that! First we'd have to figure out what makes a bogus account: no picture+no posts+30 days old+???
Entirely possible, but as you said, it would mean determining what a phony (spam) account is, while cutting down on the possibility of false positives. - Michael Gaines
The best auto block is to simply ignore them. If you don't follow them back you don't have to see their nonsense. Problem solved. Again - I don't manage who follows me, I manage who I follow. - Brian Roy
Sure, it's possible... Do you truly want to prevent them from seeing what you post, or is the goal to "deflate" your follower count? - Ken Sheppardson
I'd do it just to clean up my numbers, but if numerous people blocked spammy accounts Twitter could not ignore their existence. That's why you'd want to use Block. These inflated numbers benefit Twitter's valuation but not the conversation. - Leo Laporte
Leo, SocialToo has a tool where you can automatically unfollow people who follow you and unfollow you in a certain number of days (such as 2). That quick follow/unfollow is a clear indicator of a faux account on most days. http://www.socialtoo.com - Louis Gray
Yeah, "block" is really the closest thing Twitter has to something like eBay's negative feedback. Lemme see what I can do... :-) - Ken Sheppardson
I'm not autofollowing. I carefully control who I follow, and with all these spammers joining I'm sure most people will stop using autofollow tools. Autofollow is the only reason I can think of for spammers on Twitter. Correction - I do autofollow on @twitlive - but I don't see a lot of spammers there for some reason. - Leo Laporte
Leo: When us mere mortals who don't have tens of thousands of followers and aren't getting 1K plus new followers a day do get a new one, we typically go check out the new follower's profile. In the case of a "real spammer" vs a "fake user", the spammer just got our attention and we saw their message. - Ken Sheppardson
...and the "mere mortal" crack wasn't intended as snark. I just meant "every day, non-celebrity user" :-) - Ken Sheppardson
So the trick here is that you have to make a separate API call to get the extended info for each of your followers to find out who they're following. At the 20K/hr rate limit... 90K followers... it takes a while. It'd be interesting to see the analysis though... maybe I'll invest half a night's worth API calls and collect the data... - Ken Sheppardson
What if we croudsource bogus account detection. Bogus accounts probably follow a ton of people. If n people block that user then they're probably bogus. Sort of like Gmail's mark as spam alorithm. - KyleHase from twhirl
That would be great. I could use a script like that also. - Michael McGimpsey from twhirl
There's a fine line between doing something as an experiment to collect data or as a one off to fix one's own list and doing Twitter's job for them (i.e. fraud and spam detection.) - Ken Sheppardson
Amber Mac
Hi! @chrisdick and I are thrilled to welcome our son Connor into the world this morn at 2:45am! We are all healthy and happy!
Glad to hear you're both OK. Welcome to geek paradise Connor. - Donald Townsend
Congrats to you and chris and welcome Connor. - Todd Proffitt
Aw! Congrats!!! http://flickr.com/photos... - John
Blessings and Grace upon you, Chris, and Connor - Jim Adams
Congrats! - Eric @ CSTechcast.com
Congrats and best wishes!! - Gabe Diaz
Congrats to you, Chris, and Connor! - John Grinde from twhirl
Congrats! Good luck with your future sleepless nights. =) - LonelyBob
Congratulations to the both of you!! :) - Steve de Mena
I wish you both the best! - Ginger Campbell, MD
Don McAllister
@cataspanglish Takes a while to upload 800MB you know!
Sarah Lane
Survived 7 am trip to vet's with frightened, howling kitties. Now rattled & wiped out. Can't they understand I only do it b/c I love them?
Leo Laporte
Woo hoo. I just got a Wii from Amazon. What games and accessories are must have now?
super monkey ball! - Morgan Haley
Lightsaber !!! - Brodie Beta
Classic controller. Download Super Mario Bros 1, 2, and 3 now! - Eric @ CSTechcast.com
Mario Kart - Alex Scoble
Mario Galaxy - Thomas Acosta
That's awesome, all I have is a PSP :( - Patrick from twhirl
go old school, like Eric says. Dr. Mario and Tetris Party are great classics - Jon
Guitar Hero World Tour! - Nicola Quinn
AnXbox - Chris Gilmore from twhirl
you must purchase Guitar Hero World Tour - get the entire thing (drums, etc) - Dave Hodson
Mario Galaxy, Mario Kart, Super Smash Bros Brawl. If you have old firmware version intall the Homebrew channel! Don't buy ANY third party games. They are all feces. And the cross-bow training game is wack too. - pixelcrafter from twhirl
what kind of games do you like? - Karl Evard
@ pixelcrafter most third party games suck but some are really good like 'no more heroes' and 'zack and wiki' - Karl Evard
Sheryl, I was never interested in video games before the Wii. Apparently that's the market it was originally aimed at and they certainly got me hooked :) - Nicola Quinn
World of Goo is a must-buy. And anything above an 80 on http://apps.metacritic.com/games... is a safe bet - Nathan Chase
Got to get the wii fit board! - David
Mario Kart, Rock Band 2 and Wii Fit - Herb Hernandez
Mario Kart. FTW - Roberto Bonini
I don't have a Wii, but I do have a Nintendo DS and I have Mario Kart for it and it's awesome, so it must be even better on the Wii. I recommend Mario Kart Wii - Eevee from IM
Boom Blox, De Blob - Hunt
I always suggest Wii Play for the extra controller, plus Cow Racing is hella fun. - Haggis (Sean Loyless)
Just got a Wii Fit from Costco. Finally in stock. Time to load my que in Gamefly - Joe K
I second boom blox - joey from BuddyFeed
Super Mario galaxy and tetris party in Wii ware. World of goo is pretty good and boom box is a must. - Rob Brammeld
You have to get the Wii Fit Leo. It is so much fun and of course it is good for you. - Michael McGimpsey from twhirl
I want one...lucky! - Susan Beebe
Mushroom Men! - Laura Zickus
I second the motion for a Wii Fit. It's more fun than you're bouncing ball seat. For real fun I agree with the calls for Guitar Hero World Tour. Even Guitar Hero 3 is extreme fun. The tunes are just right for guys our age. GHWT however looks like it goes leaps forward. I just got mine and will be playing as soon as I get some free time. No matter what just enjoy the Wii experience and ALWAYS wear the wrist straps! - Derek Erb
Mario Kart and Wii Fit - James Tallman
yep wii fit is great and of course either guitar hero or rock band depending on what you like..acessories dont work with each other though.. - Samuel Lewis from twhirl
Wii Sport for the tennis game, Top Spin 3 for, erm the tennis again. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
Definitely a rechargeable battery pack and a dock to charge the Wiimotes. I have one from Nyko. - Rodfather
Wiiii! ;) - Tyson Key
I want to get one but can't justify the over-priced bundles....gahhhhh - Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
Boomblox - Eric Rice
rayman raving rabids - Amber, Random Time Lord
hear great things about Guitar Hero World Tour...so I'm giving 3 away starting Feb 1st on my site. We will see how much response I get from that. - MarkCarras
Legend of Zelda! Mario Cart, Mario Galaxy, Super Smash Bros - Jen Kuiper
Mario Kart for sure. - Jonathon
Mario Kart! - John Grinde
If you dig the ultra-violence, check out Man-Hunt 2. - Christian (Simply X)
Boom Blox is lots of fun both solo and multiplayer. - Chris Taylor
Robert Scoble
Louis Gray missed the real story around affliliate links on Amazon. I'll discuss here:
(UPDATE: I was wrong, read the rest of the thread to see why, don't buy stuff off of your own affiliate links) The real story is everyone should go and make their own affiliate link. Then everytime you buy something off of Amazon you should use that link. You'll get some cash back. This could save you hundreds of dollars every year. The fact that very few people do that is lame. - Robert Scoble
Louis's post is here: http://friendfeed.com/e... - Robert Scoble
Also, Louis missed that the link itself is disclosure. You all should learn to recognize an affiliate code that's inside the URL itself (which is how Louis noticed my use of it last night). - Robert Scoble
good point. i did that in the past. works like a charm. keep forgetting to do it recently. thanks for the reminder. - ~C4Chaos
The guy who keeps @god account on Twitter told me he's saved thousands of dollars every year by using his affiliate link to buy stuff. - Robert Scoble
You HAVE to do this. It's so easy to set up & so nice to get some cash back. I set up my own search page & buy everthing through it. I set my default to search for blu-ray since that's my #1 purchase lately. - Bryan Duke
I thought it was against the terms of the affiliate scheme to buy from your own link. - Paul Kinlan from Friend Deck
that's a great point-we all read. - Jim Gray
And Amazon hasn't figure this out yet? - V Mary Abraham
Nope, it's legal to buy through your own links - Bryan Duke
That's not permitted by Amazon: "You may not purchase products during sessions initiated through the links on your site for your own use, for resale or commercial use of any kind." - Scott Loftesness
That would be "a story", not necessarily the "real story". For me the real story is that you have an opportunity to convert the network to revenue. That 90% of the discussion is around disclosure is fine. Truth is, I would rather buy off your affiliate link than give 100% to Amazon, but I doubt most of your readers knew that was going on. - Louis Gray
The discussion was interesting, though. We rarely disclose affiliate payments in society. If my lawyer refers me to another lawyer he gets a kickback. Same for many doctors and dentists. I've never had one disclose those relationships and kickbacks. - Robert Scoble
scoble - you do realize what you just said IS ABSOLUTELY AGAINST THE AMAZON AFFILIATE TOS - people DO NOT do that - you will be banned on amazon. - Allen Stern
This is a big deal to me. I've posted affiliate links approx, 1/10 of 1% of posts on ff and twitter. It's all about trust. If Robert posts a link, and gets credit, I just don't care, in fact I'm glad. If Joe schmo shows up and 1st post, or many, are just hocking shit, I'm reporting him. In fact I hold the record for turning in spammers on twitter. - Ed Shahzade /NextInstinct
@Robert: True! But you can save more by signing up with better affiliate programs. And you can still use coupon codes (which people still don't do as often as they could.) Amazon isn't the only game in town. - AJ Kohn
Louis: good point. But this wasn't about getting other people to buy. It was not a review. It was not me telling you to go buy now. That's why I didn't feel a compelling reason to disclose. That said, it did cause me to figure out my affiliate code again (I hadn't used it in quite a while). Scott: I didn't realize that. - Robert Scoble
Scoble you remain a God with a chiseled body - sofarsoShawn
Not only is at against the TOS they police it heavily -- you will get caught. - Brian Sullivan
Section 4 of the Amazon Associates Operating Agreement: "You may not purchase products during sessions initiated through the links on your site for your own use, for resale or commercial use of any kind." (from paragraph 4) Amazon DO check this and even if you are initially credited, they will strip it out before you are paid. - Gordon Saunders
Scott: this is easy to get around, though. All I'd need to do is call Louis up, tell him I was going to buy a bunch of stuff, and then use his code to buy and get my money back from Louis. - Robert Scoble
Robert -- maybe easy to get around but still fraud. - Brian Sullivan
I was one of the first amazon affiliates many, many years ago and have watched tons of affiliates be banned because of the behavior scoble says is "lame" - as I noted above and others have as well - do not buy stuff using your own affiliate code! - Allen Stern
@Louis Can you make me understand why there is a rabid interest in revenue/monetization for things in which people have no investment? I have never been able to grasp this concept. - EricaJoy
Allen: I didn't realize this. Interesting! - Robert Scoble
Josh: truth be told I missed that. Do you read every TOS in depth? I don't. - Robert Scoble
Hmmm. - Bryan Duke
Can't link to the TOS page on amazon without being logged so here it is "You may not purchase products during sessions initiated through the links on your site for your own use, for resale or commercial use of any kind. This includes orders for customers or on behalf of customers or orders for products to be used by you or your friends, relatives, or associates in any manner. Such purchases may result (in our sole discretion) in the withholding of referral fees and/or the termination of this Agreement." - Chris
OK, who wants my affiliate purchase? :-) - Robert Scoble
Amazon prohibits buying from yourself. In fact, using your own link doesn't get you anything (but it would probably work if you opened up a separate account with a different CC & address). But I agree that it is total wasted opportunity to NOT use your affiliate id when sharing an amazon link. (Even though after ~300 clicks the only affiliate sale I ever got was from my mom) - Daniel Sims
The trick is to convince your friends to buy stuff using your affiliate code, and you return the favour by buying stuff with theirs. It's like gifting money all year long, and not just at Christmas or birthdays. That's not against the TOS and I'd argue it's not fraud, either -- not directly profiting from purchases against your affiliate code. - Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Josh - I can't answer for how smart Scoble is or is not - I am merely trying to help properly educate the millions and millions of people who follow his postings so that they don't get screwed when they buy stuff and then get no affiliate earnings. I am not yet ready to comment on the usage of affiliate links in his postings as of yet. But I will, you can rest assured of that :) - Allen Stern
The funny part is Amazon is a dreadful affiliate program. Plenty of other programs with FAR better terms. - AJ Kohn
That's pretty stupid that the TOS can't be linked without being logged in. - Chris, Taskerrific Guy
@AJ True, but can you think of a program with a better selection of goods? Amazon isn't just books any more. - Chris, Taskerrific Guy
I agree w/ Allen/Louis it's the DISCLOSURE issue, and whether or not you while testing a product will be unduly lenient so as to make sales to increase your revenue stream - sofarsoShawn
I think it all should go to charity At least, that would be my style. Then, if you'd buy through me, you're giving a gift to people who need it more than I do. - Meryn Stol
all of us are not as fortunate to not need the cash. - Shaun Haney
Josh: when I started this thread I never expected to learn something myself. That's what's interesting about two-way media. You put one thing out there and it turns out you're wrong and everyone else teaches you what's up. Imagine this were 30 years ago. I would have put an article into a newspaper, been wrong, then we would have run a "correction" on the bottom of page three. Damage would have been done and everyone wouldn't have learned something. Here we learn in real time. This is EXACTLY why I love ff. - Robert Scoble
@Chris: The yield from Amazon is *SO* low because the cookie for revenue is only set for that *session* Other programs have 30-90 *day* cookies! So, you go through one of my links and two weeks later buy and I get a cut. Both LinkShare and CJ have a decent selection of merchants with better terms. Why drive traffic and help Amazon sell when they're being so stingy. It's inertia in my opinion, plain and simple. - AJ Kohn
AJ: that's a good point. What are some other good affiliate networks you've dealt with? - Robert Scoble
Josh: if I weren't willing to be seen an idiot none of us would ever learn. That said, I gotta start reading TOS's a lot closer. If I did anything wrong, it was going too fast. - Robert Scoble
@Robert: Join Linkshare (http://www.linkshare.com) and Commission Junction (http://www.cj.com) They are the two biggest US affiliate programs and have a wide selection of merchants to choose from - from Macy's to Home Depot to NewEgg to iTunes to Apple to Buy.com etc. etc. *Far* better terms than Amazon. - AJ Kohn
Erica, you asked if I could explain "a rabid interest in revenue/monetization for things in which people have no investment?" Depends on what "no investment" means. I would argue, as Robert likely would, that we both have invested time and effort into building a community and sharing across networks. If these services are replacing blogs, that were previously used for revenue, you can see the push to find ways to monetize. - Louis Gray
Continuing to Erica: Commerce and finance and business in a new world or platform is very compelling. Robert is seen as an early adopter and thought leader. He is trusted and genuine to the vast majority of people. What he does is very interesting because of him as an individual, and because he could be a trend-setter. - Louis Gray
glad to read this - i have earned some money with amazon and others and i wouldn't risk losing that income stream by using my own affiliate codes to buy. I sure as heck will help others buy thru them tho :) and yes, i wish Amazon's cookies would last as long as the others at cj.com etc. http://planet5d.com - the best canon 5D2 site on the planet :) - planetMitch
UPDATE: Robert, we are ALL consumers. Why not go through each others links? I seek out bloggers, someone I know could use it, any time I'm buying online as a thank you for their efforts. - Ed Shahzade /NextInstinct
I don't think anyone else has mentioned it, so here goes. RS in my book doesn't have to be unbiased about a product on Amazon he affiliate links to, because there are usually plenty of other reviews to read about the product in question. Read them and then make up your own mind. And Robert, keep the money - you took the time and trouble to write the article, review, whatever. - Richard Williams
Here's another idea: Why don't we set up a master thread for Amazon affiliate links, and you can buy from your favorite FriendFeeder? :-) - Louis Gray
Richard: I didn't even write a review. I just noted that Amazon is sold out. So, I haven't made a single dollar off of this yet (Amazon only pays out when they ship a product). That said, who wants my money? I'll cancel my order and buy again with someone else's code. Louis? Now that I know I can't use my own code I'd rather SOMEONE get the money from my purchase. - Robert Scoble
Louis: that would be fun! - Robert Scoble
@AJ: Either of those services good for Canadians? Otherwise, I'm stuck with Amazon anyway. - Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Louis: absolutely there will be a push to make money with these things. If I'm laid off saving a few bucks when buying things will be a big deal. I can see an "affiliate club" could be a big deal. Scratch my back and I'll scratch yours, kind of thing. - Robert Scoble
@Chris: Yes they have Canadian programs but check out the sites and look at the terms. - AJ Kohn
@Louis: Fantastic idea! - AJ Kohn
Just use your wife's code Robert. - Tom Mancino
Robert, if you get laid off... let me know. I have some ideas. :-) - Louis Gray
FWIW - it's pretty tough to catch people who purchase through their own affiliate links. I'm not advocating that you do so, but the reality is it's often more expensive to find this activity rather than let it occur. In my experience (running and managing affiliate programs) only a few high abusers are caught. [edit] Perhaps it's gotten easier to detect of late, I'm a few years away from it now. - AJ Kohn
Man, I'm being pulled in 9 directions at home. I want to have this discussion very much though. Kids come first, hope your interest remains. Thanks for round 6,000 of cool discussions here. Appreciated. {| :~) - Ed Shahzade /NextInstinct
[edit339est]Gray, your proposal for affiliate links for FFers was similar to what I was thinking in the shower: a page from one's blog where all their affiliate links are posted alongside any relevant reviews and thumbnails. - coldbrew
Well, I need money for my 168 Project :) Go here: http://whoisthewatchmaker.blogspot.com/ and you can find my link on that page.... I think :) - Mike Shields
ha ha... you are unbelievable.. so you get caught red handed in your words.start this thread saying louis "missed" the real point..(deflect) then tell others to break TOS... wow.. you have the arrogance to say if you weren;t willing to be seen as some idiot "we" wouldn't learn...now you are trying to look smart and deflect the bad side, by saying... loook who wants my order... unreal! you just went down in my estimation.. but who gives a shit what I think. Im just some stupid person who cant read urls. - Rob Sellen :o)
easy, this isn't personal - coldbrew
Scoobie, this has been around a long time, go to fatwallet, sign up, use the links, get fatcash. - Morgan Warstler
Changing the subject - what if an affiliate link in a tweet or a FriendFeed item is disguised via tinyurl or some such link shortening service? Yes, once the link's resolved, you'll see the "disclosure" that this is an affiliate link, but such disclosure will not be visible on the original tweet. Would that be considered misleading? For example: http://tinyurl.com/whatevi... - Ontario Emperor
If I had 50,000 followers generating affiliate revenue, I wouldn’t have to order through my own links for any other discount. ;-p - mtlb
this is much more direct Yeah hindsight is 20/20, and I’m sure @scobelizer would have given full disclosure if he had been aware of what the situation was to turn into. But in the grand scheme of it all Robert Scoble is still a super genuine guy, who I believe doesn’t harbour a corrupt bone in his body. He made a teensy mistake, but then who hasn’t and who can say they wouldn’t have overlooked the same thing in those circumstance. Would Robert Scoble really give up being King of the internet for a Kindle? - sofarsoShawn
Has anybody mentioned that Wil Shipley has made gobs of money from Amazon affiliate royalties via his Delicious Library cataloging software? It doesn't cost you any more/less to buy something from an affiliate link, so what's the big deal? Why does there need to be disclosure? The real story is nobody could figure out how Scoble could capitalize on his huge audience. Geez. The guy consumes and produces more information in a day than most do in a month. Let him make a buck off his investment. - Paul Reynolds
Robert: Set up an Afiliate Store (ala Gruber http://astore.amazon.com/daringf...) and link to it then there's nobody accusing you of being sneaky... I heard you encoded subliminal tweets that make us want to buy stuff. No wait, that was the plot of the Josie & The Pussycats movie. My bad. - Paul Reynolds
lol paul +1 for dropping in a josie & pussycats reference - mike "glemak" dunn
Set one up for him.(without him asking).To support the Scoble Family (maybe put Milan through College one day) http://www.familyaffiliatestore.com/Scoble... Thanks Louis for the idea. Hope to create them for everyone who wants one and put all their links in one spot. Any help and suggestions are appreciated. - Jonathan
Do we have a consensus yet on the rights/wrongs of affiliate linkage? I need to know how to proceed here :) - MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Mini .. have you read my post? - Tyler (Chacha)
I disagree with this post, I'll discuss here: http://friendfeed.com/e... - Bwana ☠
Bwana that's so awesome! - MVB (Grinch of FF)
Go for it Robert. I don't have a problem with it - Michael McGimpsey from twhirl
I can't let this post go without pointing to Merlin's amazon store http://www.merlinmann.com/amazon... and _his_ style of full disclosure: http://bit.ly/htuafc ~If you've already seen this, raise your hand~ - Micah Wittman
Micah, I thought about posting that one instead of Gruber's store. :o) - Paul Reynolds
Also for outright, the title of Louis' Blog post was itself incendiary and borderline libel, how now that all the ducks were in a row you could plan to take advantage of a "FriendFeed/Twitter Monetization Strategy" as though it was some grand plot you'd been anxiously waiting, rubbing your greedy hands for. So what's the big scheme Robert I want in? ~ this is old news - sofarsoShawn
i would not even know how to 'sign out' of my own affialiate like as I visit amazon very often as well as for my items on amazon. I expect amazon just to strip out what was bought with the same email address as the affiliate code I am using - I think we can expect that much simple logic from them :) - Nicole Simon
Shawn, you said, "the title of Louis' Blog post was itself incendiary and borderline libel", and I would have to disagree. The title consisted of who (Scoble) the verb (starts) where (FriendFeed Twitter) and what (monetization). If I had wanted to be incendiary, I would have used adjectives, or focused on the lack of disclosure and made noise about it. I didn't. I would tend to believe your conclusion is in the minority. - Louis Gray
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Louis Gray
Scoble Starts His FriendFeed/Twitter Monetization Strategy - http://www.louisgray.com/live...
I can't really blame him, but some disclosure would have been nice. - TobiasVerhoog.com from BuddyFeed
HUUHHHHHHHH -- SCANDAL!!! I feel so violated... - sofarsoShawn
Good for him. If I was in the market to buy one and he had a link, it's no skin off my back. If I wasn't in the market his post about it would just fly right under my radar. - Martha
Nice catch. He may need to be un-followed moving forward. From what I can tell, he is genuine, but he missed out on being transparent and that screws with my bullshit meter (it may need adjustment). - coldbrew
Doh! Amazon Affiliates are the obvious play. It makes complete sense. Will be interesting to see how/if this catches on. - Roberto Bonini
I think content should never contain affiliate links as to remove all chances AND suspicions of conflict of interest. I think the only thing one can safely get out of social media is reputation - personal branding you could say, which can be "monetized" true better job opportunities, consulting offers, etc. Affiliate links in your content destroys the trustworthiness of your brand, at least for me. - Meryn Stol
@Roberto & colbrew believe me I expect Kindle's for ALL of US! - sofarsoShawn
But nothing wrong with charging $200 per hour because you're a super star. Super stars are - per definition - scarce. - Meryn Stol
@sofarsoshawn: believe me, this thread is not about the Kindle - coldbrew
true, no more sarcasm (well maybe a lil), it's a little bit equitable to investment bankers plugging their own stocks before the first financial plummet after which, disclosure became a must if there was any possible conflict of interest. I'm not equating it 100% at all, but it is akin in that it casts doubt on that persons repupation as a reliable source - sofarsoShawn
*shakes head* Kindle wouldn't have half of the Internati buzz without affiliates pimping it for referral fees. Yet, no one really thinks about it on this macro level. Instead you aim at the guy who didn't get a free v1 Kindle and panned it when he did get one. It's the right thing to be cautious of, but applied to the wrong person. - AJ Kohn
I have no issues with this. Robert is a unique 'brand'... No one has to follow him or click the links. Also, an endorsement of the kindle is hardly being a shill, it's a good device - might as well be paid in doing so. That said, I'd say free service like FF and Twitter should get a cut. - Vince DeGeorge
Best selling Digital SLRs: http://snurl.com/a8gwa (Playing Scoble's game!) - Scott Loftesness
Scott - nice! - andy brudtkuhl
I don't really mind at all. The affiliate cash doesn't hurt the purchaser at all. Who cares if Scobez makes some extra money? - Internet's Tad
What's so big about sticking in affiliate links like that? I do it all the time when I reference books, and have been doing so for a good long time now. I thought by these days, it'd be a no-brainer to do something like this. Much ado about nothing. - Chris, Taskerrific Guy
@Chris and all, I wouldn't call this "much ado about nothing". The reason I posted is because of Robert's visibility and the previous discussion of how he was "wasting his time". How could he convert the community to revenue? If he put a note out on Twitter asking for $5 via PayPal, would that have been effective or as good? It's an interesting move. - Louis Gray
Crafty..... but lol!!! :o) - Rob Sellen :o)
It is indeed much ado about nothing. Damn near any Amazon link you encounter these days is going to have an affiliate code embedded in it. Most of mine do and its no big deal, people click or they don't. If it starts to get spammy thats when the problems happen. However if you're posting a link to a product you're discussing, why not put the affiliate link in there? You were going to link to it anyway and the same people were going to click the link anyway. I fail to see the problem here. - EricaJoy
@Chris: +1. I run a book blog. I review books and I bash Kindle. I still have affiliate links. The issue shouldn't be whether you use affiliate links it should be whether the affiliate links taint that person's reviews of products. *MANY* in the Kindle space are tainted but Scoble is not one of them. - AJ Kohn
Erica, I wouldn't put this in the "problem" category. But Scoble potentially converting his user stream across multiple networks into revenue is newsworthy, especially versus December's discussion about needing an intervention and how he was propping up service valuations and getting nothing in return. I think you'll see the biggest "criticism" I had was that it wasn't disclosed - which others across the Web have had mixed agreement with. - Louis Gray
Erica: Do a affiliate link for charity then. - Meryn Stol
I'm ok with Robert doing this if he discloses it - e.g. by adding in [AD] and limiting this to once a day. I'd also want him to care about the products, which I'm assuming is the case with the Kindle. - Mike Doeff
Josh: How do you mean? My point was that you shouldn't give your "constituency" any reason to doubt your objectivity, your honesty. Likewise, I also don't like sales person who work on commission basis. They're just wrong incentives. They could be honest, sure. But they also could be saying things out of financial interest. - Meryn Stol
I must add that full upfront disclosure (should practically be part of his blog header) would help a lot. - Meryn Stol
I suspect that Robert's posting of links here contravenes Amazon's operating agreement -- section 10 specifically but I that is between him and Amazon. - Brian Sullivan
why???? why does it matter? In a sense, if you post a NON aff link, do you feel thats better? if so WHY? - Rob Sellen :o)
Brian, what does section 10 of that agreement specify? (too lazy to look) - Mike Doeff
Meryn: I will disclose from now on. I wasn't telling anyone to buy them. I actually hate the first Kindle quite a bit. Here's my review: http://scobleizer.com/2007... - Robert Scoble
By the way, I see lots of people linking to their blogs where they make a lot more money off of the hits through advertising. I never see disclosure of those links. - Robert Scoble
10. Responsibility for Your Site You will be solely responsible for the development, operation, and maintenance of your site and for all materials that appear on your site. For example, you will be solely responsible for: the technical operation of your site and all related equipment ensuring the display of Special Links on your site does not violate any agreement between you and any... more... - Brian Sullivan
@scobleizer I don't have a problem with affiliate links in Twitter, but a disclosure would be appreciated. - John Grinde
What's in section 10? Sounds like interesting reading, but not this morning :) - coldbrew
I see the thread has gotten to be 90% on the disclosure issue - and good morning, Robert. What are alternative ways you think Robert and others could convert their visibility on these networks to revenue? - Louis Gray
Robert, just to be clear: I do trust you that you're not becoming the stereotypical "upselling" sales person. Anyway, you see the fuss. I think you know as no others that full transparency is best. - Meryn Stol
poor guy, one affiliate link, and the whole blogosphere jumps on him. - xavier vespa
Louis: want to make money on social networks? Put ads on your blogs and link to them. Oh, wait, this is an aggregator and it does that by default. Or, get a job at a PR firm because you are a highly thought of blogger (or keep your job because of that). I never see people disclosing those kinds of links. Meryn: I will diclose from now on when I link to sites using affiliate codes. Personally I doubt I'll make any substantial income off of these links. Certainly hasn't been the case yet. - Robert Scoble
Meryn... WHY is it best and for who? would it have made you feel better if it was a NON aff link?? why? would it have mattered if it was a NON aff link but not disclosed? Or was disclosed? - Rob Sellen :o)
xavier: I actually think this is funny since the link itself gives disclosure of a kind. There's lots of people making money here that aren't disclosing it. - Robert Scoble
how is §10 of the Amazon agreement relevant? sorry for being dense, but I read it and I don't see the connection. - Nathan Rein
The agreement has a discussion about where you can post links - specifically on "your site" - section 10 further refines the definition of "your site". - Brian Sullivan
The focal point here for me is finding a way to convert the followers to revenue. Robert knows that from me its not personal. I don't run ads on the blog, or charge people to read, and I have zero problem with his Seagate ads. I have zero problem with his links to Amazon having affiliate URLs. As mentioned in the article, I would have preferred a note of disclosure, but what I like here is the thinking about how he can leverage his work over the last few years in building a network. - Louis Gray
Adding on... if you were thinking about buying a Kindle or anything from Amazon, start with Robert's URL and make the poor guy some cash! :-) - Louis Gray
why?? he aint POOR is he? lol... but I agree in that sense, if I was buying sommat anyway, i'd rather it went to help someone than not. :o) - Rob Sellen :o)
If Robert would be pitching products and asked readers to "tip" him for his advice by buying the product through an affiliate link, then I would consider that a very fair deal. I've said this somewhere else, but this is relevant here: I'm more likely to pay for "donation ware" than for shareware. - Meryn Stol
Oh, feel free to go to my book blog and help me out as well! (http://usedbooksblog.com) - AJ Kohn
I only see a very small problem with this. I think disclosing the affiliate link would have been better, but many people look to Robert as an online "cool hunter" of sorts. That's adding value to the information exchange and being compensated shouldn't be frowned upon IMHO. If he handles it poorly (and obvious conflicts of interest arise) he will lose his value add and lose his followers. - mikepk
That's ok, but thats only you Meryn. ;o) So you would rather use my beer button my blog than click an aff link when buying something you would buy anyway but decided to buy then through my post etc..,? what difference does it make either way? - Rob Sellen :o)
@mikepk: I partially agree. I don't think disclosure is really needed. (I don't need the useless privacy updates I get from every credit card either.) It comes down to trust. Do you trust that the individual is not being influenced by the monetary incentive? If you suspect there is bias based on the affiliate relationship then that person loses trust and followers and ultimately hurts their own revenue stream. - AJ Kohn
@mikepk I agree it's a small problem, however I would like to know why Scoble didn't disclose, that is if he feels up to answer it ~ Scoble? Btw I think Robert Scoble is a God with a chiseled body - sofarsoShawn
Chris.... thats what i would do... i wouldn't just go through his, id rather choose who my aff payment goes to :o) - Rob Sellen :o)
need to get yer eyes tested shawn. :o) - Rob Sellen :o)
I looked at and clicked on the link -- the link has the word "scobleizer" in it -- seems to me that is effective disclosure? It doesn't go directly to the amazon Kindle page either -- it goes to an intermediary link. I think there was disclosure if not totally overt. Only an idiot would think it is not an affiliate link. - Brian Sullivan
Robert adds a new thread to say why I missed the point: http://friendfeed.com/e... - Louis Gray
Josh... who are you to say we are "getting to smart for our own good here"? What is your problem with someone trying to earn a living online? who cares where you actually earn through your link? - Rob Sellen :o)
@Josh: It was a bit tongue in cheek :) I mean, who needs more help, me or Scoble. Well, maybe I'm biased. - AJ Kohn
++josh ;o) very true, be yourself and stop idolising certain people and your view does become clearer. :o) - Rob Sellen :o)
Ok... :o) - Rob Sellen :o)
Robert Scoble is now officially spam. - Josh Haley
The honnesty in affiliate revenues is easy to tell: A review that is supposed to describe you a product MUST include a disclosure about the affiliation. A simple link without a real review is called an Ad. What I mean, is that when you making a full review with list of advatnages, you have to tell me if you are affiliated with the product owner or not so I can tell if your review is biased or not. - directeur
There is no need for disclosure. I automatically assume that everyone is out for a buck. If someone posts a link to a product, i'll just assume they might make something from my purchase. So what. If i want the product (i should have researched it), it was a useful tip and they may deserve a some referral income. This is very similar to viral marketing. Although scobleizer's link was in the clear, in the future they won't be. There's nothing we can do to stop it. It's simply capitalism doing its thing. - ·[▪_▪]·
Josh: I didn't disclose because I didn't ask anyone to buy anything. In fact, I really hate the original Kindle (I sold mine a long time ago after giving it a horrible review). The link itself is disclosure, by the way. If you don't know how to read URLs you should learn how Amazon and other places work. This discussion is good for everyone to become more knowledgeable about that. By the way, I did disclose within minutes of posting that item. Louis asked me about it and I disclosed within a few minutes. - Robert Scoble
I'm just messin' with him. I say go for it. Affiliate marketing has helped me too, I just haven't really pushed it on my friends yet. - Josh Haley
As for it being spam: block him if you don't want to see it. - ·[▪_▪]·
I'm really angry now, none of you guys have an affiliate beer link on your site. - Greg Guitarbuster
Robert, I think lot of people tend to assume "purposive behavior" when someone "steps out of line" (at least in their view). My first reaction was likewise. I think you've got enough social capital to ride through this controversy. :) - Meryn Stol
Doesn't Robert Scoble live in America? Anyone heard of this crazy thing they do there...capitalism?! I can't believe he's trying to make a buck in a capitalist society...simply amazing! He want's food on his table? Clothes on his back. Ridiculous. Have him move to Cuba and roll cigars in the name of the homeland and earn a living the real way in a Communist state. That's how to capitalize. I can't believe this is news. - Brian Bufalo
If I find a product I truly like, and have it myself, or I am planning to buy it, and I want to share it with everyone else, I'll go check to see if it's available on Amazon, and post the affiliate link. I don't see any problem with that. Conversely, if you post an affiliate link to something I want (amazon or anywhere else) I don't care that you make some commission, as long as I get the product I want at the price I am willing to pay. - Ian May
louis, one way to monetize is to use community currencies. - ernie yacub
I hope he gets rich--we will still be in his debt. - Robert Linthicum
[stares into thread] For relaxing times... make it... Suntory time. [raises glass of whiskey] http://www.SUNTORY.com - Karim
Robert...you only disclosed it AFTER getting "caught red handed" by your own addmission, you had NO real intention of doing a disclosure and you know it.... thats why you said "caught red handed"... either you had no intention, or hoped to not get spotted... but you were, now you say we "should learn how URLs work" as if we should know better... unbelievable. - Rob Sellen :o)
robert linthicum.. why?? what do we owe him??? - Rob Sellen :o)
@Rob he's received far more publicity doing it the way he did than he would have with a pre-disclosure. It's all "meh" to me. - Mattb4rd
@Mattb4rd I disagree, especially since when one says the alternative would be lessened yet there's no going back, no do overs to see what happens this renders your whole point moot. Openness & transparency beforehand would have rendered would have lessened the controversy - sofarsoShawn
@shawn .. that's exactly my point. Controversy = publicity. - Mattb4rd
Did I miss the worship Robert Scoble weekend memo? ;) Happy Birthday btw! - Mona Nomura
yup just the tail end... - sofarsoShawn
I don't get what the big deal is.... you guys are crazy. Hope ya got some bling, Robert. :) - Adam Curry
I don't see the big deal, If you like the "product" and buy the product, the price is the price affiliate link or not. - Ron"micronet"Harwood
Wow, Adam, it has been way too long since I have seen you. Nice to see you here on friendfeed. - Robert Scoble
I think the link is disclosure enough and Robert is worth some extra money.. - Peter
Just another example of political correctness gone to an extreme. Save the bandwidth and end this discussion. There's nothing wrong with affiliate links and people clamoring for disclosure should just be smart enough to move on with their lives. - Pankaj from twhirl
All I can say is congratulations Robert for this important initiative! This is an excellent approach to start a discussion about monetization on Twitter, FF and others (One I support). We used to have the same reaction when advertising and affiliation came to blogs, those have now many supporters. There are many questions such as: should we find a standard (disclosure)? What about the platform own future monetization model? etc. - Zack Brandit
Possessed? Demonetize the need demon. Focus on giving gifts of value and beauty without expecting gold. Value what cannot be bought or sold. - Phil Boiarski
I don't see anything wrong with linking to amazon or affiliate links. I've got an amazon affiliate account. If I find a book that I like and am going to blog about it do I include my affiliate link. Sure. Why the heck not? If I talk about my Canon 5D M2, or drobo, or whatever, will I put one in? Sure. I've never seen anything wrong with any of that. - Thomas Hawk
oh, and I also sell adds on my blog through Federated Media. Don't see a problem with that either. - Thomas Hawk
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Datacenter Porn:
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We are getting a tour of http://www.gogrid.com 's datacenter. Cloud computing competitor of Rackspace and Amazon. Thanks to http://www.friendfeed.com/hightec... (aka Michael Sheehan) for getting us in. - Robert Scoble from email
that's hot. - drew olanoff
Oooh, I've just made a mess... - Lee Stacey
it makes me feel funny down there - ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
Oh yeah, sexy bits! ;-) - masa media - Martin
Nice, but is she more than just a pretty face? ;) - John Denver
Now you're talkin, Scoble....welcome to the party, pal! - Live4Emma (L4S)
How noisy is noise in there? - Stefanos Kofopoulos
so what's behind the curtains? - Mike Chelen
They allow pictures in there? ;-) - Thomas Beutel
unf unf - Charlieray
i love to sleep in dc noise. :) awesome! - Yusuf Yıldız
Love these pictures...especially the cables. How come they can make miles of cables look so neat (and colorful) while the back of my desk is a gray tangle of dust bunnies? - Pete Marshall
Giggity - CW™
My peta just flopped! *zing* - Stephen Breen
Interesting Pricing too. Think I'll try it out for a little bit. - CW™
Pete, two words "Cable Management" Panduit has some pretty interesting options. See here for some examples, http://bit.ly/ZDG4 - Jauder Ho
Whoops, bad link. Fixed. - Jauder Ho
Very inappropriate, Scoble. Now I gotta go to Graybar. ;) - Chris Mayer
yeah, baby...virtualize me - Dave Cadoff
Robert, the next time you want to hug hundreds of terabytes of storage, you have an open invitation to swing by BlueArc. We would be pleased to have you as our guest. - BlueArc
Jizz in My Pants..... - Sean Montgomery
Haha! Thanks for the time you spent at GoGrid Robert! I was great spending time with you and Rocky! - Michael Sheehan
Me likey. It also doesn't hurt that I'm a fan of GoGrid. Though I heard Amazon just implemented some wacky thing called a "graphical user interface" on EC2 about a week ago. ;-) - Karim
LOL! Only a geek would get that phrase. :-) - darnell from BuddyFeed
Those are some junky servers. They should not have allowed pics. Does not speak well of them. - Wayne
Wayne: they have 20,000 square feet of servers and stuff. Should I post more photos? I guess this is why most companies don't let people take photos of their data centers. There's always something to criticize. "You didn't do that wiring right." - Robert Scoble
They have dozens of racks. I just picked ones with interesting colors and density of repeating lines. - Robert Scoble
Oh yeah, pure IT Geek porn there. Currently cleaning trying to zoom in further on the racks. :) - Robert Miller
Bwana ☠
High RAM servers - why so expensive? - http://news.ycombinator.com/item...
Sarah Lane
I will never get used to people walking up to me and snapping my pic without saying hello or anything. Plz say hello? #notafreakshowkthxbai
Will do if I ever get the pleasure. :) - Josh Haley
People are so weird. - Nathan Howell
Must be your intimidating superstar presence that scares people :) You seem very approachable though. I'd say hi. - Jim Bednarz
Robert Scoble
We are now recording This Week in Tech at http://live.twit.tv
Full house - Bwana ☠
Watching - Robert Miller
listening in now. we need a much better friendfeed app for the iphone! - Courtney Engle from Alert Thingy
cant watch it cuz of telecom provider. damn :( - Sinan Ata
LOL, John C drops a BS bomb early. Going to be an interesting show - Bwana ☠
I can't believe Leo just dissed Captain EO, one of the best films of our time. - LA Snark
Robert had one too... - Christopher Knopick
Doin' the TWIT, baby - Jesse Stay
Sweet. I need some podcasts to listen to at work in the morning. - MarkCarras
@MarkCarras I don't, "unlistened to audiobooks and podcasts" folder == 51.4 GB. - Phillip Stewart
I hate listening to podcasts that are old. The info does me no good. So I try to keep my podcatcher limited to what I can listen to in a day. Otherwise it drives me nuts. :D - MarkCarras
Wow Phillip - Bwana ☠
you need your cell phone so you can follow the chat here on FriendFeed as well. - Jesse Stay
great doing TWiT with you, Robert! I'll look for you at CES. - Dwight Silverman
Just waiting for Twit to go on iTunes so I can download it at work over my iPod touch. - Colide81 (James)
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Sign on Leo Laporte's studio
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This sign seems to be a good motto for a friendfeed room. Thanks for joining us -- we are driving home now. - Robert Scoble from email
Was fun to watch too :) - Simon Wicks
I saw you, Patrick, Daniel B. and the rest of the crew sitting on (or standing next to) the ball. - Michael Perlman
Yeah, it was fun. They had so much more to talk about. Never enough time. - W. Kirk Crawford
Hahaha. Great Show! - Brent Cappello
Great show Robert. - Douglas Karr
great show :-) - Simon
Good show - Bwana ☠
Great Show - Tyler (Chacha) from IM
you're not driving home yet! - Chris Heath
great show guys, loved seeing Scoble's live show also. - Chris Pugh
Really enjoyed the show! Could have easily been a 2 hour show. - Keith Beucler
i love this! great show today. - Lise
Leo... Have scoble do a IM A Twit - Joe K
Awesome show! Dvorak was so grouchy, it was great! :D - CannonGod
Steve is going to plug feedsqueezer - Bwana ☠
Where can u find the video the FF video scoble did? - Claes Krantz
Awesome show to see live! - Billy Doyle
Leo should add a clause that says " TWIT is no responsible for any violation of NDA's or any other legal bindings." It is quite dangerous when people slip and forget they are on camera. - Steven (optionshiftk)
"After entering this studio, NDA stands for No Dumb Agreements" - Billy Doyle
Now, Gillmor is on the line. I hope he read this post. - Steven (optionshiftk)
That was a great show, learned a lot! - LA Snark
@Claes Krantz: Yeah, I'd be interested in seeing that too :) - CannonGod
Great show Robert! - Laura Zickus
Another T.W.I.T is in the...you know what I mean! Enjoyed the show! - Reggie L.
That would be smart - Tyler (Chacha) from IM
You cept asking if it was live lol.... - ralphsaunders
I can't even tell you the number of times I've seen people trash careers, friendships, and advertising accounts by taking for granted that a studio microphone isn't live. - Chris Baskind
That was a great show! The sign is great :) - Justin Levy
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@leolaporte on the radio (photo):
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We will interview him at 2 but right now he is on KFI. Will be on his show at 3 pm at http://live.twit.tv - Robert Scoble from email
Watching right now cool - Claes Krantz
There's a 'Cough Drop' button? - Mary
From my days as a college radio show host, I think the 'Cough Drop' button just cuts your mic if you're about to cough into it...hah, haven't seen one like that, though. - James O'Malley
Just remembered that too. Listening now - Tyler (Chacha)
Did you bring a crew? - Richard ¿digame? Walker
I am a little upset Leo has as many computers on his desk as I do, I am sure I can fit one more in. - John D Reasor
So many voices .. the Chris Marquardt thing is really annoying - Tyler (Chacha)
Robert! Tell Leo to shut off the recording! I want to actually hear you guys! - Michael Forian
He's doing a radio show, stop advising him what to do!! - Charlieray
Hey. Hey. I just want to listen to the show. Play nice kids :) - Michael Forian
Michael, 11-2 is "KFI Time." They provide $$$$ (and I assume you don't) - Richard ¿digame? Walker
It doesn't matter ... he shouldn't be giving us the Radio show anyway. They asked him not to - Tyler (Chacha)
I concede that TwitLive is confusing at times during "KFI Time" but it is completely up to Leo how he handles it. To make too many demands is to risk seeming ungrateful for all the free content he DOES provide IMO. - Richard ¿digame? Walker
Demand wine and cheese! - Bwana ☠
Demand glitzy wipes if you must. - Richard ¿digame? Walker
500 viewers thats offensive hehe - David Lloyd
I have to run out and get a haircut, can you guys keep talking about urination for another 30 minutes or so til I get back? Thanks! - LA Snark
If this is cut much below 30 mins I'll have words with this "rocky" fellow :) - Richard ¿digame? Walker
That was GREAT! - Charlieray
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