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Smellr: It's like Flickr, but for your nose - http://www.smellr.com/#
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bnoise, HealingBrush, earl wallace and 85 other people liked this
"Your smell. Deeply personal yet very social, it says so much about you. And now there's a social network for your nose, a friendspace for your fragrance, a place to share your opinions on perfumes and vote for your favorite smells. We call it smellr and it's online now."
- Morton Fox
from Bookmarklet
WTF is this shit?
- teh Dork Knight aka Kenny
Is it compatible with Apple's iSmell?
- stretta
from twhirl
BWahahahahahaha @ Humility!!!
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
OMG. HAHAHAHA.
- adf
O M G just what i needed. hahahah
- kaieteur
If this would make me as cool as Robert, then it'd be the first time I'd wear a fragrance!
- Meryn Stol
Oh I now see the other ads. I don't care about those guys. I mean how to show you *really* don't get it - with your perfume. :D
- Meryn Stol
Genius... but where's "Megalomania" by Steve Jobs? :-)
- Andrew Terry
Oh yes I'd wear Steve's fragrance on occasion too. :)
- Meryn Stol
Andrew wins!!
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
or, "Dogmatique" by.... Oh, no, I couldn't possibly say.
- Andrew Terry
Peter Shankman is winning! http://smellr.wufoo.com/reports...
- AJ Batac
From the facial expressions smell not so good.
- jcunwired
hahaha so funny!
- Jorg Jansen
BUMP
- Josh Haley
is that scoble???
- Rob Sellen :o)
If I wore this would I be a Social Media Expert too? Besides smelling sooo dreamy...
- sofarsoShawn
Hey - where's mine?
- Tad
LOL
- Caroline
If Twitter continues the overhyped direction it's headed, soon, it'll be a community filled with marketers and celebrities with megaphones
Gordon Saunders, Aaron Draczynski, Carlos M. Gomes and 85 other people liked this
I agree, the spammers and marketers (I'm an Affiliate but do not use Twitter for business as a rule) are poised to mess up a good thing. Why do the best and purest forms of communication always get sullied by greedy, careless people?
- Nicholas Chase
how so? Your twitterverse is limited to who you follow/what you search for. No one can market to you unless you opt in to follow.
- Sameer
It is very much this way now.
- Louis Gray
Unless they upgrade the hardware it is going to crash soon. Slow and too many fail whales.
- Steven Kent
Good question...is what's happening a great awareness wave for the general public? Or a cementing of Twitter's reputation as people broadcasting without value? I'm going with the former on this one.
- Hutch Carpenter
OP: "soon"?
- Carlos Ayala
I agree with Sameer. Just don't follow people you don't want to follow. Unless you are thinking that it will be a put-off to other people.
- Mark Chandler
Twitter: a community filled with marketers, 'life coaches' and celebrities with megaphones. That ship has already sailed.
- AJ Kohn
+1 AJ!
- .LAG liked that
+1 Sameer!
- Atul Arora
I can't imagine how FF could handle noisy marketers. It's much more about conversation here, they would be taken out more easily, wouldn't they?
- Jérôme Flipo
I'll third Sameer and Mark. The beauty of twitter is that you shape your own community. I follow one celebrity, because I actually enjoy his tweets. But it doesn't bother me or reduce the value I get out of twitter when people I'm not connected to use it differently than I.
- Jeremy Schultz
@Jerome: Yes. Crowdblocking happens *very* quickly on FF. And I believe (hello FF employees) that once a certain number of blocks are initiated the FF daemon comes along and gobbles them up.
- AJ Kohn
Soon?
- Alex Scoble
The only way in which Twitter hype can hurt Twitter is in Twitter's responsiveness. For all else, Twitter - like FriendFeed - is much as with blogs. Everyone chooses his own subscriptions. And everyone figures out their own way to use their 140 char text-box.
- Meryn Stol
it's still opt-in..filters baby, filters
- George Dearing
I completely disagree with the idea that how others use Twitter doesn't impact your own usage. If someone you follow starts to follow more and more people then their ability to interact with you diminishes. The social connection between you two disappears. That's if you still rely on Twitter for interaction (which I think many do, though I certainly don't.) So, sure you can unfollow that person, but an environment where quantity seems highly valued will reduce your ability to converse.
- AJ Kohn
And Friendfeed and Facebook is somehow immune to this;-)?
- Brandon Mendelson
Already is
- andy brudtkuhl
As far as Sameer's point goes... I don't want to follow Oprah - thus I'm not opting in. BUT if anyone I follow talks to her then I am pulled into her twitterverse. So it's not 100% opt-in
- andy brudtkuhl
"...filled with marketers and celebrities with megaphones." And of course about 3 million people clueless as to how to handle all the noise.
- Tim
Andy, that's when lists should come on stage to put the noise backstage. Friendfeed to rescue you.
- Jérôme Flipo
ok, so it's not 100% opt-in..so what..being pulled into Oprah's twitterverse thru someone else would be a problem mostly for newbies coming to twitter..they don't follow that many ppl so their stream would be easy to overtake. You have to spend some time tuning your network..it gets noisy sometime but so does the real world.
- George Dearing
@George - that's why they need groups and filters! .... sounds like another service... hmmm oh, ya .. FriendFeed!
- andy brudtkuhl
Andy: not really. They have 3rd party clients for that.
- Matsis
This GUY? Yeah i'm here PC Easy, I do both
- Jeremiah Owyang
to be honest, a loud place with people talking over each other in order to get noticed is how both FF and twitter feel, at times. Goes with the follower model
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
I agree... a diluted mess. This isn't another channel, it's a conversation.
- Drew Lucas
Who was it on FF that said twitter is like a Seinfeld episode where everyone is talking, no one is listening? so funny because it's so true.
- Violet Mae Lim
I think it was Bindu Reddy: http://ff.im/2pws5
- Brome
Soon?
- Kathy Fitch
marketers as distinct from social media gurus?
- Christian Crumlish
isn't this what folks said about the web? all the authentic voices would be drowned out by commerce? did it happen?
- Christian Crumlish
Yes, but I think the spammers and others who don't engage with their followers/friends will soon find they're not getting the results they want. We still have the capability of creating the "communities" we want to converse with on Twitter. I'm surprised more celebrities didn't find Twitter earlier, and some of them are doing fund-raising for good causes. We can choose which ones we include in our own conversations.
- Cathryn Hrudicka
Isn't it already full with crappy, cheap marketers?
- Jorge Escobar
Jorge: It depends who you're following but yes they are already there.
- Nicholas James
Blame Ashton, Oprah and Britney. A complete waste of space.
- David Eedle
I agree. Saw yesterday that "Twitter Quitters" was trending on Twitter. Let 'em quit.
- Rick Cogley
unfollow the marketers & celebs.
- tarafireball
It already is! Of all people, I would have thought you would have recognized this long ago! ;-)
- Brad Williamson
I seldomly use Twitter anymore due to the noise level. I see more and more advertisers and product spammers. It feels less personal whereas FriendFeed has a better system for that.
- imabonehead
It's unfortunately the nature of the beast - greed concurs all. Hell look what it did to the good old USA, then the world.
- Brent - Loving Life
Everybody involved in social media is a self-marketer. Besides, Twitter has had the spammers and MLMers since day one. The celebrities are relatively new, but who cares? Therein lies the power of the unfollow button, Twitter's protective shield.
- Shéa Bennett
Yes, it will but the beauty of Twitter is that we don't have to follow any of them. We can still make it what WE want. That's the difference. The other stuff will die if it is truly of no value. It always does. We'll be left with something useful.
- Michael J. Pratt
You mean, like Facebook...? :-)
- John Blossom
People who like the "cool" things are now a little distressed that MSM has discovered Twitter, but its very nature seems to inoculate one from mass media hysteria. Just ignore these folks. The main problem with Twitter is that it's very generic - needs 3rd party apps like FF to really bloom.
- John Blossom
I agree it's at a point where newbies have less of a chance of adapting to the culture long-term because of all the noise/spam, but for those of us who have been here for the long haul, things are much the same as they always were. If a contact doesn't bring value, unfollow.
- Amie Gillingham
It seems the resounding opinion of FriendFeeders that Twitter Already IS " community filled with marketers and celebrities with megaphones" -And the number of followers I get who have bot-based auto-spams and names like @TheMLMGuy and who have 10,000 followers in their first week prove the FriendFeeders to be correct.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Twitter is a real-time broadcast medium in its essence, with receivers (follow mechanism) that enables people to aggregate their own channels. So it's not surprising that it attracts MSM and MSM marketers. There's a place for broadcast - and, like, CB radios, a broadcast medium can support very focused and highly scalable conversations also.
- John Blossom
wow - we bitch about twitter and their default list but cmon - i just signed up for a new friendfeed account and was presented with a default list - techcrunch, mashable, loic all on there with next to zero activity - hmm - why bash one and not the other?
Corvida, Brandon Mendelson, Charlie Anzman and 44 other people liked this
Oh, we bash the default list here, too. Often.
- Akiva Moskovitz
I thought we DID bash FF? I thought we made a big stink about it? Maybe I'm losing it :)
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
i posted about it and did a video about it a year ago - seems nothing has changed :( but hey we gotta keep the top on top!
- Allen Stern
you know, ff has so much data on all of us - why not just ask the new user "give us 2 things you are interested in" - then find 10 people who match those things? that'd be damn hot and would move ff past twitter, etc.
- Allen Stern
Allen: the friendfeed list is a meritocracy. The Twitter one is not. The friendfeed list is based on numbers of followers. It is the same as the ffholic list. The Twitter list is NOT based on numbers of followers. It is NOT the same one as on Twitterholic.
- Robert Scoble
Also, the friendfeed list is NOT on by default. You have to manually add people. You can NOT add everyone as a group (like you can with Twitter's list) And the list is infinite, it will keep going as long as you have time to scroll through and add people.
- Robert Scoble
Allen: does the list you see match this one? http://www.ffholic.com/Users...
- Robert Scoble
Once you log in, by the way, friendfeed presents a totally different list: one that's based on who you chose to follow. So, if you don't follow anyone who knows me, for instance, you'll see the most popular person your friends follow.
- Robert Scoble
It seems much more difficult to be followed or added here Robert. Is that my imagination?
- Gregg Scott
Gregg: just mouse over my name and you'll see a tile with whether or not your are following me. Or, click on my name and you'll see a subscribe link. I've done that manually thousands of times, so it's not that hard.
- Robert Scoble
yea I know robert - but why should they pimp people who don't use the service at all either? naturally someone like yourself belongs there - also thomas hawk, etc - but if i am interested in food or health topics and not tech, why not present me with a list of people who I might be interested in and stay around - if i only want health/food and subscribe to say mashable because ff says to, will i leave? think about that one :)
- Allen Stern
To Subscribe is easy. To be 'Subscribed to' by other FriendFeeders though I mean. I imagine it is based on contributing to discussions.
- Gregg Scott
Allen: TechCrunch is a user of the service. They shove their items in here and I like their feed. It's my number one most engaged with feed. So what if they don't comment or like anyone else's items here? By the way, notice I'm number one here. Why is that? I engage so the system is rewarding me for doing that.
- Robert Scoble
In my experience putting great content into the system matters more than participation, but participation DOES matter too. Maybe they should have two separate lists?
- Robert Scoble
Gregg: I get subscribed to both by participating as well as talking about this on my blog a lot, which gets people to come over here and follow me.
- Robert Scoble
Thanks Robert! I do challenge you at times but I appreciate your willingness to build and engage communities. You almost always reply to comments--mine and others--which I find increasingly rare by the Technorati.
- Gregg Scott
Gregg: out of the "A list" I find I'm one of the few who links more often to other people's stuff rather than my own on my http://beta.friendfeed.com/scoblei... list. I wish there were more too.
- Robert Scoble
I wrote about the difference between just throwing feed items in and actually participating a couple of weeks ago. what im suggesting is that ff is missing a real golden opportunity to match users with their interests - not just presenting the top 20 subscribed, etc.
- Allen Stern
i bash nothing, they all do a fine job on their own ;/
- chaz2b
You did bash it very clearly not so long ago, Allen. But FriendFeed's default is less "hand selected" by Twitter, but instead selected by the community who opted to follow those folks and push them to the top. To remove them would require "hand deselection" of sorts.
- Louis Gray
Allen, I agree and that should be much easier to do with the beta search filters. Allow a new user to specify a few interests and then present a list of best matches.
- Greg Guitarbuster
ok let me just clarify - ff's list is better than twitters - i think we all agree on that - now focus on my suggestion for improvement and let's discuss that - if my interest area was tech for example, i would expect the current default list i guess...
- Allen Stern
Yellow card submitted to Robert for "I'm one of the few who links more often to other people's stuff rather than my own." :) The "likes" list only shows other people's content, so everybody's like list is 100% other people's stuff. Mine is here: http://beta.friendfeed.com/louisgr...
- Louis Gray
maybe the default list should just be a list of the guys who can piss the farthest.
- Karim
Sounds like sour grapes. I've never even considered the idea. Who cares how many subscribers you have? People with an agenda different from my own.
- coldbrew
Louis: right and how many A Listers like lots of other people's stuff? Go down the ffholic page and tell me how many.
- Robert Scoble
We both know many of the A-Listers are simply inactive. I gave you a yellow card, not a red card for that one. :)
- Louis Gray
since we all seem to care about ff's success possibilities - what im trying to suggest would increase that % - i just wrote a post about making things easier to improve your startup and it touches on this
- Allen Stern
Allen: this stuff is all moot once you figure out the search engine here.
- Robert Scoble
I think the lists are often insidery and aren't always valuable to the average user but I don't personally mind. I think it's a potential way for social networks to make money in the future - maybe not off the present people but larger brands, etc. I work in a market where the "A list" is totally different. :) Nobody would know who any of the people are, so I think they should try to diversify, etc.
- Patricia
thanks robert - will look into that more as I don't use it as much as I probably should/could
- Allen Stern
I'd probably get shot for saying this, but, I'd be more interested in seeing new people on the list. Isn't it much more fun and spicy to connect with vast users than the same ones on twitter, friendfeed or facebook? Just saying. :-)
- Moushumi Kabir
Allen: the search engine is much better on http://beta.friendfeed.com
- Robert Scoble
The suggested list upon sign up needs to be randomised to show popular and active users. We had this discussion a while back. Shame it's not changed.
- Kol Tregaskes
For example, Kol should be on the list. Moreover, Mona should be on the top of the list.
- Michael Fidler
That's very kind, Michael, I'm not worried either way but I think the list should be more mixed. Some of the most popular users are hardly active on FF. Robert is active and popular so that's fair he is on the list but some are not, I'm sure the more active users or put a lot int FF itself would appreciate being on such a list?
- Kol Tregaskes
I am starting to come around to Allen's position. Friendfeed should make its list more focused on participants rather than popularity.
- Robert Scoble
But really they need a directory of many different lists. Sort of like AllTop. If I am into quilting why is friendfeed suggesting TechCrunch to me?
- Robert Scoble
Robert: I was thinking of a directory similar to but perhaps smaller in scale than Twellow.com, but I agree, a directory would be very helpful to new FF users looking for specific niches.
- Sharon McPherson
Carol Bartz, CEO of Yahoo, drops the F -word on first conference call.... I'm buying Yahoo stock based on that. #stocktwits #fuckyall
Nicholas James, Denise Howell, Cem Ozkaynak and 28 other people liked this
Nice I'm in too.
- Kelby
She was definitely hired to handle Ballmer in negotiations.
- Adi
She also told employees she'd "dropkick to fucking Mars" anyone who blabbed to blogs. She's my favorite CEO.
- Kate
I agree with Kate she's an awesome CEO
- Kelby
I think I connect with her because she speaks a lot like my dad. :)
- Kate
She definitely speaks her mind.
- Kelby
“We sort of had one product management person for every three engineers,” she said, “so we had a lot of people running around and telling people what to do, but nobody was fucking doing anything.”
- ⓞnor
I'm back in NYC. Flight back was equally great. Wifi internet on planes makes 5 hours feel like 5 mins. Huge game changer for me
Bob Sonin, Steve Frick, DGentry and 7 other people liked this
Cool. I need to get Wifi on my next flight. I don't think Continental has it yet... just Virgin Airlines? not sure
- Susan Beebe
Wifi on flights is the best!
- Adriana
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