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RT @LizNeeley: . @phylogenomics challenges #AAAS to deposit all papers in PubMed Central after a reasonable delay. http://phylogenomics.blogspot.com/2012... #AAASmtg
Why are there still library journals that aren't Open Access? That seems insane to me.
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Because Emerald, Elsevier, ASIS (via Elsevier!) and others still make bucks by selling them? Look first at the worst offenders--such as this one (>$10K/year last time I could even *find* a price, for 9 issues that appear as 5 or 6 issues): http://www.emeraldinsight.com/journal...
- Walt Crawford
And I noticed in looking at Emerald's site that either I've gotten dumber or they've gotten VERY good at hiding actual prices. They refer to a "price list," but nary a link to such a link. I guess that's privileged information only to be discussed with their customer representatives.
- Walt Crawford
Well, and also I asked the portal guy who asked me to write a review if they are open access and he said no. But now that I look into it, they are green. So, I wonder why he didn't tell me that.
- Your Neighbor Steve
Walt, I was thinking earlier in the life cycle, like why does anyone write for them, edit them, etc.
- Your Neighbor Steve
He probably didn't know. Ignorance of OA terminology continues to be damn near universal. My, ahem, non-best-selling (even by library standards) book apparently hasn't helped much. (441 libraries in Worldcat.org. Better than nothing, to be sure...)
- Walt Crawford
Perceived prestige. "I'm on the editorial board for Chi-Chi Journal" apparently still carries weight with some. For others, it's service points for tenure.
- RepoRat
There's also still EPIC amounts of distrust of OA among academic librarians. EPIC. And it's even more EPIC the more you focus on the ARLs that provide a helluva lot of journal-editorial labor.
- RepoRat
Walt, my book is in 252 libraries. I'm more lame and pathetic than you are, neener, neener, neener!
- Your Neighbor Steve
Steve: I was guessing that--but as long as libraries buy 'em, librarians and LIS professors will write for them. RR: You're right...but just looking at that one $10K journal's ToC, I'm guessing Carol Tenopir, for example, has tenure by now...
- Walt Crawford
You think *LIS faculty* know jack about OA? Don't even get me started. (Yes, there are exceptions like Jeffrey Pomerantz. They're still exceptions.)
- RepoRat
[I point that one out because it's such an egregious case--and because I still remember browsing through three years' or $30,000 worth when Emerald had a freebie week. I was singularly unimpressed. But then, I always thought JASIS was mostly unreadable bafflegab, so what do I know?]
- Walt Crawford
This thread just gave me a PERFECT project for my summer course. PERFECT. So thank you all.
- RepoRat
This thread is © Steve Lawson, 2012. Any unauthorized use is prohibited.
- Your Neighbor Steve
You should submitted to the Closed Access Journal. Meanwhile, I agree with Timothy Gowers, substituting librarians for mathematicians: "the moral issues are between mathematicians and other mathematicians rather than between mathematicians and Elsevier." In our case, it totally mystifies me how any librarian can serve on the board of one of these journals without feeling immense shame. Or write or review for them.
- barbara fister
I double-dog-DARE you to write that publicly to a librarian audience, Barbara. I QUADRUPLE-TWIST-DOGGIE-BAG-DARE you to name some names.
- RepoRat
Fortunately, I suppose, Library Journal is no longer part of Elsevier...and, to be sure, it's not a refereed journal. (RR: No, I didn't honestly assume that LIS faculty knew about OA. I was hoping to reach a few of them through the ALA Editions book...but that assumes that they read the library literature, doesn't it?)
- Walt Crawford
Because the OA ones aren't seen as the "important peer review journals" ? I keep being told to publish in the HIGHEST RANKED that I can get re: tenure. They don't mention OA when they talk about that.
- Hedgehog
This just in: http://duncan.hull.name/2012...
- barbara fister
will take up the dare and think about the quadruple etc.
- barbara fister
awesome.
- RepoRat
Just read the Gowers post again and he makes a very convincing case. I'll support a statement about librarians similar to the one he made about mathematicians.
- John Dupuis
Cod assistance wanted - what are the most high-profile academic library journals owned by Elsevier, T&F, and other predatory publishers? Obviously JAL, but what others leap to mind?
- barbara fister
and yeah, hell yeah, I'm down with starting our own "sign here" statement especially for librarians.
- barbara fister
The Loon's done a full list already: http://gavialib.com/2012...
- John Dupuis
T&F owns Cataloging and Classification Quarterly.
- RepoRat
Retcon completed.
- John Dupuis
And I'm getting old. I think I need a program to keep track of all the secret identities.
- John Dupuis
LOL
- RepoRat
And long may the Loon bob upon the waters of righteousness and freedom! I will link to the avian avatar's list but meanwhile - which ones are the big names that belong to the evil side? JAL, Cataloging & Classification ... others?
- barbara fister
(and will publish this tomorrow - 2/16 - if I can pull it together....)
- barbara fister
I can hit up Ulrich's if you want. Elsevier's done, anybody else besides T&F? Emerald's pretty sleazy.
- RepoRat
more T&F: Behaviour and Information Technology, Enterprise Information Systems, Information Security Journal, Information Systems Management, International Journal of Geographical Information Science, Journal of Agricultural & Food Information, Journal of Information and Communication Technologies, Journal of Information Display, Journal of Web Librarianship, The Information Society
- RepoRat
When we canceled our Emerald package, we were told that libraries can no longer subscribe to just one e-journal title. You either license a package or can subscribe to print. Interestingly enough, no one seems to miss them much.
- Jen
SLIS library got told the same thing. SLIS librarian dumped 'em and picked up two-three journals print-only. I suspect Emerald introduced its foot to a revolver with that one.
- RepoRat
One of my few guilty moments in my writing career: When Emerald's predecessor purchased Library Hi Tech/Library Hi Tech News, I didn't stop doing my LHTN section as soon as they told us about their "aggressive" pricing scheme. I waited until they shafted the editor/managing editor. Mea culpa.
- Walt Crawford
[That was Crawford's Corner, originally Trailing Edge. The end of Crawford's Corner was the beginning of Cites & Insights... I got paid more regularly for the first, but I feel better about the second.]
- Walt Crawford
What about Wiley? Are any of our journals are belong to them?
- barbara fister
oh yes - hello, Journal of the American Society for Information Science and Technology.
- barbara fister
Oops. Sorry. I thought Elsevier had purchased JASIST, not Wiley.
- Walt Crawford
thoughts on Reference Services Review? Good rep, no? That's Emerald. I don't know any other of theirs that I see cited often.
- barbara fister
Draft submitted. We'll see what happens. Should we seriously consider creating a site like costofknowledge that names the worst offenders along with Elsevier with an invitation to academic librarians and LIS faculty?
- barbara fister
By "we" I mean anyone who feels like it and has more code skills than I do, which is to say "has some code skills."
- barbara fister
Barbara: Like Library Hi Tech, RSR was a Pierian Press journal, and yes, it has (or at least had) a good rep. (Ditto Serials Review, I think.) Unfortunately, for health reasons, Pierian needed to sell...and UCB-now-Emerald turned out to be a shark. (I had a long and good history with Pierian, and its prices were always reasonable.)
- Walt Crawford
The big fish eating smaller fish thing has happened a lot. I published more than once in journals that ended up owned by Elsevier. Societies seem increasingly to b handing over their stuff to these sharks. Unless they are species of sharks themselves.
- barbara fister
Yep, that's been the pattern. It's common enough that folks have studied what happens to prices. No surprise: they go up. A lot.
- RepoRat
Okay, it's going pretty much as I wrote it (with my usual clumsy typos and such fixed, thanks to LJ folks). Thanks for the inspiration, Steve, for the information, all, and to RepoRat for the dare. I didn't name names, but I did link to editorial boards of a small handful of publications and suggested we should all stop doing this because it hurts libraries, channeling Timothy Gowers.
- barbara fister
I wish I could like this thread a second time.....
- Just Joe
Thank you, Barbara.
- RepoRat
^^^^ thanks should be headed thataway.
- barbara fister
Nice job with the setup and double-dog dare, RR. Well done and thanks to you both.
- Heather Piwowar
And Steve for asking the right question.
- barbara fister
Group hug/mosh pit.
- Your Neighbor Steve
*HUGS*
- RepoRat
Now comes the interesting part. Getting people to cosign publicly.
- John Dupuis
I'd cosign, but since I haven't written a refereed article in decades, what's the point?
- Walt Crawford
Where should people cosign? In the comments of the blog post? wasn't exactly clear. and what exactly would they be saying by signing... basically that they agree with the post?
- Heather Piwowar
I'm still channeling Gowers - I think people should do this but I haven't set up a site where it could be done because I'm a bit dim.
- barbara fister
[Not that the Field medalist is dim - creating websites quickly isn't among his skill sets, being crowded out by the rest of his enormous brain.]
- barbara fister
I'm going to suggest that we email Tyler to make the change on the CoK site. Not only is it easier, it ranges us *alongside* researchers, which I think is very important as framing. I'll write the email if nobody else has a burning desire to.
- RepoRat
<---- Speaking of dim, it took me a minute or two to figure out that CoK=http://thecostofknowledge.com/ Never heard it referred to as that before. Could/should we work on the email together as a google doc?
- Just Joe
I don't see any reason to crowdsource this. Write that puppy, and do a separate FF thread for signatories?
- RepoRat
How students (and faculty) really find articles - http://pegasuslibrarian.com/2012...
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Is part of the problem that they might be able to get those Wiley articles from another database at no additional cost--i.e., are they using the token on the Wiley site when they could have got the same article from JSTOR?
- Your Neighbor Steve
Yes, that's part of it.
- lris
Also that we can't afford to pay for every article on Google :-)
- lris
Well, yes. I was trying to think of non-passive-aggressive language that might help, like "Instantly use college funds to purchase this article." But that would probably be dependent on the publishers' sites.
- Your Neighbor Steve
If it helps, you're certainly not the only campus noticing this issue with Wiley tokens. Rachel Borchardt at American U has been documenting the same pattern: https://twitter.com/#!...
- Catherine Pellegrino
Thanks, Catherine. Our eJournals librarian found that to be sadly comforting.
- lris
I remember back when I was working on OpenURL at RLG, testing library systems using OpenURL--and wondering whether students & faculty would be aware of appropriately free versions of articles. including repositories, or always be pointed to publisher sites.
- Walt Crawford
Google is thinking of getting rid of Scholar? (Or, are you saying something different?) They could really compete with the Web of Science/Elsevier Scopus (Heaven forbid) if they put their mind to it.
- Just Joe
When did Google Scholar get rid of the beta text on the logo? That was in beta for like 5-6 years.
- Just Joe
I haven't heard anything official about Google's plans for Scholar, but burying it one click away (WAY down under "even more" in the new interface) seems like a step in Google Uncle Sam's direction.
- lris
RT @dancohen: The more you know: how much one university spends for a year's subscriptions to each publisher: http://blog.lib.uiowa.edu/transit... (via @wendyrlibrarian)
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Cosmology: The dark side of the universe | The Economist - http://www.economist.com/node...
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AT FIVE tonnes and 520 megapixels, it is the biggest digital camera ever built—which is fitting, because it is designed to tackle the biggest problem in the universe. On February 20th researchers at the Cerro Tololo Inter-American Observatory (pictured), which sits 2,200 metres (7,200 feet) above sea level in the Atacama desert of northern Chile, will begin installing this behemoth on a telescope called Blanco. It is the centrepiece of the Dark Energy Survey (DES), the most ambitious attempt yet to understand a mystery as perplexing as any that faces physics: what is driving the universe to expand at an ever greater rate. It has been known since the late 1920s that the universe is getting bigger. But it was thought that the expansion was slowing. When in 1998 two independent studies reached the opposite conclusion, cosmology was knocked head over heels. Since then, 5,000 papers have been written to try to explain (or explain away) this result. “That’s more than one a day,” marvels...
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RT @ReaderMeter: How #arXiv preprints get read, tweeted and cited. A new #altmetrics study by @davidshuai @albertopepe and @jbollen http://arxiv.org/abs/1202.2461
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Photos: four new species of world's tiniest chameleons discovered in Madagascar - http://news.mongabay.com/2012...
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"Scientists have discovered four new species of super-tiny chameleons in Madagascar, according to a new paper in PLoS ONE. The smallest of the new species, Brookesia micra, is found only on the small island of Nosy Hara and has been dubbed the smallest chameleon in the world, measuring from nose to tail 29 millimeters (1.14 inches) at its largest. Scientists believe it represents a notable example of island dwarfism. "The extremely small size of Brookesia micra could represent a 'double' island dwarf effect. In this scenario, Madagascar as a large island led to the evolution of the Brookesia minima group whereas the [...] islet Nosy Hara, might have favored the extreme miniaturization found in Brookesia micra," the researchers write. However they note it is also possible, given the shallowness of the sea between Nosy Hara and Madagascar, that populations of Brookesia micra survive on the mother island. With these four new species, scientists have catalogued 26 Brookesia chameleons in...
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- John (bird whisperer)
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They're so cute!
- Anika
very sweet :)
- Bilgisayar Virüsü
the details on them are amazing! they're just miniaturized!
- RudĩϐЯaЯïan
The little guy does not look amused.
- Brian Johns
David loves chameleons. He said 'aaaaaaaaaaaw'
- Pete
I post other pictures that you don't need to hide. :-P
- John (bird whisperer)
I'm so about these.
- TINY REPTILIAN PYROMANIAC
I almost can't believe they're real because OMG SQUEEEEEEEEEE
- Starmama
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total squeeeeeeeee!
- holly #ravingfangirl
I LOVE those expressions. They're so weirdly grumpy and thoughtful looking.
- Que Sarah Sarah
Mini Rango
- Rodfather
I think it has a tiny grumpy. :-)
- John (bird whisperer)
The one problem with baby clothes is the preponderance of Comic Sans.
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Heheheh. I think Futura might be a better choice in most cases. What do you think?
- Your Neighbor Steve
I think babies should wear Trajan. But that may be why I don't have kids...
- RepoRat
Get used to it. Every damn communication from the daycare will be in Comic Sans.
- Catherine Pellegrino
There are no bad bosses | Penelope Trunk Blog - http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2004...
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"So take another look at the boss you call bad. Think about what motivates him: What is he scared about that you can make easier? What is he lacking that you can compensate for? What does he wish you would do that you don’t? Once you start managing this relationship more skillfully, you will be able to get more from your boss in terms of coaching and support: You’ll be able to tip the scales from the bad boss side to the learning opportunity side."
- Jenica
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This line? "What is he scared about that you can make easier? What is he lacking that you can compensate for?" This line terrifies me. The"bad boss" I had would have seen any attempt to do those things on my part as undermining and sabotaging and trying to displace her. I think there really are bad bosses. But, let's presume I'm missing something. What is it I'm missing??
- RudĩϐЯaЯïan
Rudy, I'd say you just identified that she's scared of losing her place and power. So how would a hypothetical employee work around and with that fear?
- Jenica
I just cannot agree with this at all. The power difference between a manager and the managed means that no matter how well you react to someone who is a poor manager, there will always be things that are out of your control which can affect you adversely. I don't mean you shouldn't try to always do your best, but foisting the blame on the person with less power in the dynamic feels counterproductive and more than a little unfair.
- Jennifer Dittrich
I don't take Penelope Trunk seriously at all. I've read some of her writing, and saw her speak once in person, and I'd rather take work advice from my dog.
- Rachel Walden
The thing I took away from this essay is a reminder that we all have agency, and can choose where we use it. A bad boss -- or even a good one -- does not have all the power. And if you choose to exercise some, where you can, there are strategies that can make that more effective.
- Jenica
Also, there are bad bosses. There are bad employees. There are bad people. Working to make the best of every situation is great and important, but there are bad bosses, and they can do real harm. This I know.
- lris
I agree, Iris. But I still like the reminder to choose where we apply our ability to act. :)
- Jenica
I guess my problem lies in the phrasing (and the absolutes) -- I really do think people should be proactive in trying to address workplace problems, but I worry about blaming/shaming people in a bad situation by telling them it is their fault for not fixing it.
- Jennifer Dittrich
Here, I fixed that for her: "So take another look at the Spouse You Call Abusive. Think about what motivates him: What is he scared about that you can make easier? What is he lacking that you can compensate for? What does he wish you would do that you don’t?"
- Rachel Walden
the last time i had this conversation about what I believe about employees and bad supervisors and bad institutional fit, a librarian got so angry he got up and left the preconference workshop I was teaching. So I think that the better part of valor in an online forum is to just shut up.
- Jenica
I think the take home lesson from this article is the last line: "The point, after all, is for you to shine, and no one shines when they’re complaining." Yes there are things that are totally and completely out of our control when it comes to who manages us and who we manage. But, if we can identify the common problem areas and develop ways to work successfully with and through them, we...
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- Mary Carmen
I absolutely believe there are people who are just not making an effort to "get" their bosses, or are clueless. I think there are also bad bosses. I have some serious problems with the body of Trunk's advice over the years, though.
- Rachel Walden
I am not the biggest fan of Penelope either, I think she sometimes oversimplifies. However, the other very real option for a work environment that you feel is destroying your soul is to leave. I know that for most people that is not a viable option, but if you've tried to make it work and it doesn't and your losing your sanity, maybe it's time to consider how to make leaving an option.
- Mary Carmen
MC, that makes a lot of sense to me. I guess I'm sensitive - I had a situation where I had a difficult boss (the shining opportunity) and a very terrible boss (who brooked no management) in the same office. Being professional, proactive and politic in your work environment is very good advice.
- Jennifer Dittrich
Jenn, I've had several terrible bosses and terrible employees. It has been a slow, steep, frustrating learning curve over the years to understand them and develop the correct skills to manage them (both up and down). I'm at a place now where I tend to be very solution oriented. I want to solve problems and provide resources to get things done. I allow folks to vent when they need to,...
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- Mary Carmen
To go back up to comment three, I wish I knew. But you can bet I'll be pondering this a lot in the next several weeks. (although, I think new boss and new dean are AMAZING). I think what I like about the article is the shifting of perspective. I;m still a believer that there are bad bad bosses, but if you can't leave the job, and you can't change them, it's very helpful to look at...
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- RudĩϐЯaЯïan
I don't think it's bad bosses or bad employees as bad people in bad positions.
- Andy
I've got to disagree. I had one supervisor who was an alcoholic and another who was seriously mentally ill. There was no way for me to manage their behaviors beyond quitting. The alcoholic tried to frame me for stealing (I'm serious) and the mentally deranged one expected me to call her every time I went to the bathroom.
- Anne Graham
Anne, that is terrible and I think extreme cases that I would put in the abusive category. Go directly t HR, do not pass go, do not try to reason with the crazy people.
- Mary Carmen
MC, I tried but no one would listen.
- Anne Graham
That's terrible, Anne. I don't have an answer for that because inept and/or unwilling HR depts. are a reason I've left jobs.
- Mary Carmen
There are also no bad employees.
- Mary Carmen
i keep hearing that rumor.
- Jenica
Hrm, that duet made more sense before Steve deleted his comment.
- Jenica
Sorry, Jenica. I realized that heaping more scorn on the article wasn't really necessary & hoped I'd deleted it before people saw it.
- Your Neighbor Steve
Sorry, I read fast and type faster ;-)
- Mary Carmen
I don't really like absolutes, but in many cases there are things that people on both sides of a problem can try to do. There are bosses and employees from hell, and HR departments that do nothing, and too many of us have experienced them or known people who have experienced them to discount it, but many times we can do things to help ourselves. I am leery of putting too much of the...
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- Katy S
I think it is a shared responsibility, but I also think that if you're in a position of power you have to be willing to accept what comes with that power. The good and the bad. You really need to be honest with yourself about what you can handle and are willing to handle. I've lost count of the number of difficult conversations/actions I've had to facilitate, usher, perform, etc. It...
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- Mary Carmen
MC - I agree. I tend to be fairly pragmatic about these sorts of things, which is one of the reasons the absolutes grate on me. I think they're an over-simplification. Life (and people) aren't that simple.
- Katy S
I was only going to post separately, but then I actually read the article (after reading the discussion here). Sometimes, despite trying to make it work and filling in for what seems to be missing, there's still just nothing there that is worthwhile for positive progress in one's career. Key word: CAREER. In these modern times (especially in Libraryland), growth and progress will more...
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- Julian
It’s time to start blaming publishers for the troubles of the publishing industry http://www.teleread.com/paul-bi... #ebooks #libraries
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The climate skeptics have been hacked! Extensive Heartland Inst. climate-change-denial program exposed. http://www.guardian.co.uk/environ... (via @mbeisen)
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RT @MSKCC_Library: RT @hjoseph: Wall Street Journal gettin' a little cheeky on Open Access...http://blogs.wsj.com/ideas-m...
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HOUSE OF COMMONS SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY COMMITTEE INQUIRY: IMPROVING THE COMMERCIALISATION OF RESEARCH -
A RESPONSE FROM THE PUBLISHERS ASSOCIATION
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A tweet from Cameron Neylon earlier today about this "I'm sorry. What world does the publishers association actually live in? Because its not the one I inhabit".
- Graham Steel
This is some of the most egregious horseshit I've seen in a while. Probably best not to read while either drinking anything or in a public place as people will look at you funny as you tear your hair out...
- Cameron Neylon
"There is an entire publishing ecosystem built around this function." aka 'We managed to create a vendor lock-in around us' :)
- Egon Willighagen
Well, but you probably don't *want* to "improve the commercialisation of research"--you probably think it's too damn commercialized already. So you're in a world where research has to do with more than profit. Not the PA's world.
- Walt Crawford
Just signed petition for @whitehouse to support bipartisan Fed Research Public Access Act #FRPAA https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitio... via @PLoS @opengavin
A tale of two analysts. The financial markets view of the Elsevier boycott: http://cameronneylon.net/blog...
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Unshelved by Gene Ambaum and Bill Barnes - http://www.unshelved.com/2012-2-...
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PUBLISHERS. PUBLISHERS PUT THE LINE IN ONLINE. PLEASE LET'S GET THIS STORY STRAIGHT. PUBLISHERS DON'T LIKE READERS, ONLY CUSTOMERS.
- Your Neighbor Steve
Sorry, Andrew, not yelling at you, but this seems like a crisis that libraries shouldn't waste. We can't apologize for publishers, we must lay the blame at their feet. Publishers only like readers who pay full freight. That's the message.
- Your Neighbor Steve
Aside from the yelling, am I off-base on this? I'm likely to write a "death to the publishers" rant soon, so if there's much room for discussion on this particular reason that the commercial publishers are pond scum, I'd like to know now.
- Your Neighbor Steve
I didn't think ya were yelling at me :) and I think you're right about putting it on the publishers. Some of them are still operating under 19th century business practices in my opinion
- Sir Shuping is just sir
I was thinking about this comic more now that Steve posted his rant, and I realize it made me grind my teeth for a slightly different reason: I'd actually PREFER it if librarians *were* the ones putting the line in online. Or whatever other painful/questionable decisions needed to be made. Because as fucked up as that might be, in the larger scheme of things, in the short-term it would...
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- Marianne
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS
- Your Neighbor Steve
agreed.
- barbara fister
Marianne's mini-rant is pretty much the same perspective that Iris and I were working from when we wrote about how we thought ebooks should be sold, and it seems like the same perspective that Jamie LaRue and the Douglas County Public Library are working from as they actually try and negotiate this with publishers/vendors.
- Your Neighbor Steve
Yes, like with your rant, I was also thinking of those hopeful things, but did not want to detract from my bile ;).
- Marianne
I've experienced the moment in the comic and it is a teachable moment. "This is how publishers feel about eBooks. This is why they feel that way."
- Andy
Taylor & Francis are listening. Will now let you share up to 50 copies of your articles with friends! Er, 49 if you want one yourself, you greedy baxtard. Aren't they generous? http://tandf.msgfocus.com/q...
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This solves...nothing. Right? Because people that the author knows well enough to give a reprint code to, he or she could just send them a PDF of the article. And people who don't know the author, won't have access to the reprints. Am I thinking about this correctly?
- Your Neighbor Steve
Correct.
- Meg VMeg
OK, great! I'm glad...wait, no, this sucks.
- Your Neighbor Steve
This is like that HarperCollins 26-checkout thing, right? The problem is not the NUMBER of checkouts/reprint codes; the problem is that there IS a number.
- Catherine Pellegrino
And even more that reprints only help those who know or at least can email the author. Doesn't do jack for the rest of the world.
- Walt Crawford
So, one of my friends is my institutional repository. I can give it one of my copies!
- Kaijsa
If corporations are people, IRs can certainly be friends. I like the way you think.
- Your Neighbor Steve
Is the danger here that academics will realize they aren't allowed to email PDF's of their article to people, and worry that they'll be caught, and eventually just accept this as the way things are? Have any researchers ever been punished by a publisher for distributing their article, or received take-down notices for hosting their articles on a personal webpage?
- Meg VMeg
Kajsa and Steve - +++ Nice play on Citizens United. I suspect this is a clumsy response to things that few researchers will take the way it's intended; authors are more likely to say "what? I can't email my article to anyone I damned well please? That's ludicrous!" At least I hope they'll feel that way. Cause gratitude would be seriously misplaced.
- barbara fister
Meg, I'm sure that's the intent
- Your Neighbor Steve
Somebody somewhere thinks about this as a weird digital analogy to offprints, which publishers used to send a certain number of to authors. I don't see how it makes sense either, but there it is.
- RepoRat
Now I am imagining a world where publishers said, "You can send this to whoever, but just so you know, we sent a copy to the following 50 scholars we think would find your work interesting." Whoa.
- Marianne
Peter receives a copy of The Snowy Day from BOTH my elementary school librarians, who came to pay us a visit last week. (Both now work part time in the good local bookstore; one also works part time at my library.)
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NTS: our vintage 1970s Scholastic book fair edition is crumbling. Get new edition now. :D
- Catherine Pellegrino
I love that book. Used to read it to Waif all the time, like me mudder read it to me. *sniff*
- MoTO Bott
They also brought him a Peter doll to go with it.
- laura x
Every little boy named Peter should have this book in his life :) I loved it, Jayden loved it...it's a perfect lil kid book :)
- Starmama
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A Peter doll?! I want one!!!
- Starmama
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- DJF
My favorite childhood photo EVER is me in a beanbag chair reading this book out loud to myself.
- Lily
*strikes the snowy day off the to-buy list"
- marthalib
one of my favorite books of all time
- marthalib
See Also… » Publishers hate you. You should hate them back. - http://stevelawson.name/seealso...
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The converse, that I find just as interesting, is that small publishers, who don't hate readers, seem to be thriving. (cf. Small Beer, Aqueduct, Subterranean...) This is pretty interesting, too: http://www.thedigitalshift.com/2012...
- Marianne
Yes, I was going to see about working that idea in there, Marianne. But then it would have distracted from my bile.
- Your Neighbor Steve
Since it is a short rant, I won't bother to second Marianne. It's sometimes useful to distinguish between the Big Six (who I think of as commodity-pushers, which is unfair to some of their imprints) and all the real publishers out there. I continue to hope to see the Big Six decline and real publishers thrive. (But the distinction wasn't needed for your compact rant.)
- Walt Crawford
Hear hear, Steve.
- Laura H.
I love the way this connects behavior in various parts of the publishing industry. Rant on, Steve.
- barbara fister
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Is Rock Music Dead? Not If Dave Grohl Has Anything To Say About It - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012...
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"To me this award means a lot because it shows that the human element of music is what's important. Singing into a microphone and learning to play an instrument and learning to do your craft, that's the most important thing for people to do... It's not about being perfect, it's not about sounding absolutely correct, it's not about what goes on in a computer. It's about what goes on in here [your heart] and what goes on in here [your head]."
- holly #ravingfangirl
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loved this. LOVED. video at the link.
- holly #ravingfangirl
would have been better if he hadn't been cut off too, I bet. :P
- holly #ravingfangirl
Copyright claim pulled it down. :( But I agree with his sentiment entirely.
- DJ Stevie Steve
bah. I saw one earlier that was still working, so if you hunt, you can find it.
- holly #ravingfangirl
Completely randomly: If I were more than a baby programmer, I would totally create an open-source chatbot that could live on a library server and interact via XMPP protocol to cover IM reference when the library staff were busy and/or asleep.
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(Partly inspired by DeeAnn Allison, (2012) "Chatbots in the Library: is it time?", Library Hi Tech, Vol. 30 Iss: 1, but I've had the idea as a fledgeling thing for a while.)
- Deborah Fitchett
Ask the code4lib IRC channel. It sounds like the kind of thing one of 'em might have already written!
- RepoRat
Good point!
- Deborah Fitchett
This makes me laugh because I still get the "are you a robot or a real person?" inquiries on chat.
- Kaijsa
Classic Blunder #2 – Assuming resistance is a bad thing - http://meredith.wolfwater.com/wordpre...
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RT @gkygirlengineer: Roses are red, violets are blue, how did this article get past peer review?
RT @bmj_latest: Seventh International Congress on Peer Review and Biomedical Publication, September 2013 | BMJ http://www.bmj.com/content...
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Keeping zines in our hands! -- IndieGoGo - http://www.indiegogo.com/Keeping...
Jessy and I just made a video to help promote and support the Denver Zine Library's fundraising campaign on IndieGoGo (a Kickstarter-style site for raising money and starting projects). Once our video is up, I'll link to that, but I wanted to share the DZL project in hopes that some of you might want to make a small donation.
- Your Neighbor Steve
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liked: "Documents added 'Freedom for scholarship in the internet age: draft 1'" http://www.mendeley.com/groups...
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