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People are TOTALLY going to get their feelings hurt (and egos boosted too) by lists. On the other hand, this is a major good thing.
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hey Robert where can other peeps see my list for like #ff
- WarLord
WarLord: twitter.com/<your_twitter_name>/<list_name>
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Ev is now crying uncle on the replies issue. Dear Twitter, start being more transparent. You're a utility now.
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OOOOH PWNED
- Glen, Bespectacled Elder
Don't go changing the dang thing before I can blog about it! lol
- AJ Kohn
They completely overwrote half of their original blog post on the issue
- Jesse Stay
Reading people's thoughts? Now? Didn't bother to research it before? Hmmmmm...
- Michael McKean
@Jesse: You're right. The whole second section has been rewritten.
- AJ Kohn
@Michael Absolutely, there should always be user research before changes like this
- Mo Kargas
Hence my note to Ev. We are happy to provide feedback in advance.
- Louis Gray
Although "considering alternatives" implies to me that they're not going to just turn the setting back on...
- Costa Walcott
Twitter = design by flames
- Morton Fox
They can discuss this in their lunch-hour downtime tomorrow.
- John Spyers
$5 says they deleted the code
- Jesse Stay
lol @ Jesse
- jojo, adventurer
@Jesse, Reality shows are always in rewrites ;)
- Micah Wittman
@Michael - same thing happened when they turned off free SMS for a bunch of countries - as far as I was aware there was no prior warning, they just flicked the switch. Admittedly, the free SMS was costing them money, but some form of advance warning would have been nice..
- Matt Hooper
evhead is on friendfeed, ya know? http://friendfeed.com/evhead...
- Chris Heath
From the newly written second part of the blog: "We'll be introducing better ways to discover and follow interesting accounts as we release more features in this space." So, perhaps they have some new feature that would trump seeing @replies? Either way, wouldn't you introduce the new feature and then sunset the old - phased approach - or at least do a switchover from one to the other.
- AJ Kohn
In that little screen grab, the favorite star is not marked. ;) ;)
- David Damore
Sorry, David. I recommend downloading the image, opening it in PhotoShop and utilizing the Fill Bucket.
- Louis Gray
It's nice to know they're listening for once. I wonder how many complaints they received.
- Michael Fidler
Ev is pulling a Zuckerberg.
- Violet Mae Lim
Alternative (check or uncheck): "[ X ] Only show replies to those I follow." Eureka! Alternative-ness was already there. Back where we started.
- Micah Wittman
Go ev. It's nice when people can at least consider that they've made a mistake. We all make mistakes. How you handle them is a sign of character.
- Mitchell Tsai
@Micah: +3 @Mitchell: Completely agree.
- AJ Kohn
Got to check out the action on http://monitter.com Add @replies to one row
- Michael Fidler
before our tears hit the floor, @ev responds to #fixreplies
- iTbay
I'm in shock. Twitter has always done right by the community. They screwed the pooch on this one.
- drew olanoff
Thanks for your feedback? Seriously? Am I in the damn twilight zone? The blog post called this "confusing" Yet um its the only way my mom knew who to follow.
- drew olanoff
@drew now that's the best use case example right there! :)
- Matt Hooper
Oh, and re Twitter doing right by the community...ask @jesse about the advance notice provided by Twitter to 3rd party developers before the API is changed, or a usage restriction is imposed. Sometimes there is no warning, and 3rd party apps are broken.
- John E. Bredehoft
from fftogo
Ev is essentially now saying we should have seen it coming, because of this blog post he wrote a year ago. http://bit.ly/vfKY
- Sharon McPherson
I am seriously baffled by their logic. I need to sleep on this since the thoughts behind this is driving me batty. How can they push this option on to people? I really don't understand lol!
- Mona Nomura
Couldn't care less about the feature; this was one of the first things I disabled anyway. But I get really upset for twitter fixing something that wasn't broken, and taking away flexibility from the users. Just stupid.
- gui ambros
gui: it wasn't something you would have disabled... the default was to have this feature turned off - i guess you would say that you never turned it on, since it was never on for you to disable it
- Chris Heath
I'm not sure that @Ev alone is responsible for this decision. I hate this decision but I don't think it was made by one person alone. After all, @Biz wrote the blog entries explaining it all. I bet it was just a terrible group decision.
- Liz
"Group think" is a crusher. Gonna be a busy week at Twitter HQ sorting this mess out/fixing it
- David Damore
I think I missed something.......hmmmmmmm. time to go dig around. =)
- jen
On what point of the learning curve they are?
- 77Agency
Flickr and Getty Images Launch Their Flickr Stock Photography Collection - http://thomashawk.com/2009...
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Earlier this morning Flickr and Getty Images announced the launch of their new joint stock photography offering called “The Flickr Collection.” “We are thrilled to provide our customers with this ground-breaking collection,” said Jonathan Klein, co-founder and chief executive officer of Getty Images. “We are impressed with the talent from the Flickr community, and are proud to once again lead our industry in this exciting new direction. We are eager to hear what our customers think, and look forward to their input in shaping this ever-expanding collection.” I haven’t had a good chance yet to try out the new service but thought I’d offer some of my thoughts on the service here. I just received an invitation from Getty Images to participate in the collection on 95 of my photos, but only yesterday, so I haven’t had a chance yet to either decide what to do or sign up for the service.
- Thomas Hawk
I just replied to you on Twitter re: this. Sounds like an interesting collaborative idea and I like the idea of extending the value of existing on-line content. I think the service has different implications to someone like yourself that participates in professional photography than me, as a happy snapper. But I like the theory. Will investigate further.
- Ed Richardson
Thomas, I'm not at all surprised to hear that you have been invited to participate. Congrats and well deserved.
- Mike Doeff
Congratulations for being asked to participate!
- Sandra
The more I learn about this partnership the more dumb I think it is. It completely misses the point and the value of a community site like Flickr. This is basically just Getty going through and hand picking photographers, which they could have done anyway and gives no real value added to either Flickr members or potential buyers.
- Eric P
I tend to agree with EricP. This simply seems like a publicity stunt for Getty. They are getting a lot of press because they are 'teaming' with Flickr. If they had simply found and contacted individual photographers they liked on Flickr, there would have been little to no buzz. The net result for the photographer and photo buyer is the same either way. The Flickr community is not being embraced by Getty, they are just being used.
- Jeff P. Henderson
Congrats Thomas! Have to agree with Eric & Jeff though. Being a designer, I've bought from Getty over the years, when it was first announced I thought it was nothing more than a publicity stunt, they didn't need to partner. Partnering buys them nothing except publicity as far as I can tell.
- PXLated
I read that now when u join Flickr, u r automatically joined to Getty collection, unless u go turn the option off, which u can, so Flickr-ers read between the lines.
- polou/indigo_bow
Getty bought a marketing channel from Flickr. that's all this is really. look for Flickr to ramp up marketing for services and products targeted at pro members in the future.
- hobvias sudoneighm
Love it
- sofarsoShawn
I suppose it was only a matter of time before Flickr joined forces with a stock photo company. I imagine that this news will bring surge of new Flickr memebers.
- Chris Marshall
from twhirl
Ok why is Robert Scoble wearing that wool cap at the Oscars? Oh. It's Philip Seymour Hoffman. That explains it.
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Prove it :P
- Johnny Worthington
Do Churches Get Social Media? - http://chris.pirillo.com/do-chur...
You know how you meet someone smart and you don't know what they did? Discover what I learned about this guy: - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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I went home and Google'd him and learned he co-discovered the Ebola virus. Some people, when you meet them, you just know they are smart. They exude smartness. They make you feel humble without even saying a single word. I felt that around Peter Piot, I shot his badge, not to remember his face but so I would remember his name to do some research on later. I was blown away. This is the problem with Davos. You get thrust into a room with 50 interesting people and you have no idea what makes them interesting. I wish I had known more about Peter before I had met him, but there is something interesting about the serendipity of meeting someone new. Some of the most interesting people I've met have been people I've met out of the blue. How about you?
- Robert Scoble
from Bookmarklet
Interestingly enough I have dozens of experiences like this every week, without going to Davos. Especially in airplanes, because there you're forced to sit next to someone. I still remember the day I was sitting next to the CEO of REI. I've met interesting school teachers and plumbers and IT managers and tons of other people that way. Another day I met Larry Tesler, former Apple exec. Have you ever met someone who surprised you?
- Robert Scoble
It's one of my driving wishes, being able to work with and interact with smart people. And I will agree with you that the most interesting people you meet by chance - but perhaps in part it is because we would be less intrigued by the people we set out to meet, having been more prepared for them? I envy you your chance to meet and talk with people like this in Davos, make the most of it else we'll all pounce on you ;)
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Joelle: I try, but the problem is that at Davos (and all conferences, really) you meet people like Peter and you know they did something interesting with their lives but you have no idea what it is. Because you only get fleeting moments with people at conferences by the time you figure it out they usually are gone. Now the hard work begins where we try to get a second chance and an interview! :-)
- Robert Scoble
Incidentally that is perhaps one of the reasons I dont have an mp3 player and have the (very swiss/german) tendency to not sit alone at meals even when I am alone - to not isolate myself from meeting people. People are just about the most fascinating thing on earth! Even on the train / tube / plane or while waiting for something. I have learned about everything from preserving the pink...
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- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
But Robert others must say that about you? :)
- Tina Clarke
Tina: oh, that's true.
- Robert Scoble
I met my future wife in the badly-signposted grounds of Villa Borghese - she had a map, and I needed to know where the heck the villa itself was. I had two words of Italian, she had two words of English, and the gallery was closed for the day, so we went off for a walk instead.
- Sean
By the way, I uploaded dozens of photos from Davos of people. All of whom can be found on Google. That too is something very cool that has developed in the past few years: the fact that we can learn a ton about nearly everyone. I didn't find a single person I couldn't find something about on Google.
- Robert Scoble
What if you were initially impressed with someone you met in person but couldn't find anything about them via Google?
- Mattb4rd
How far away are we from an app that will take the photo input (picture of someone's name badge) and automatically (within a minute) return information on them - bio, sites, etc
- Wayne Schulz
Mattb4rd: then I would start wondering. I would probably pull up their business card and call them and say "why can't I find anything about you on Google?" That probably would lead to an interesting conversation.
- Robert Scoble
Wow you're up early :)
- Mattb4rd
Wayne: not far at all. Evernote already does some of that. Conference presenters could include info in a QR code on the badge that could be used with a cell phone.
- Robert Scoble
I got the same feeling when I met the CEO of Parallels last year at WHD'08. There are quite some amazing people out there are ar not showcased enough. Most of them just like their privacy and are not "hungry for PR"
- Lorand R. Minyo
I was fortunate enough to have David Soul (Hutch! of the show Starsky & Hutch from the 1970's) sit next to me at an education conference in LA around 1985.... that was an amazing day! He was very friendly and did not mind me gushing over his career (I was only a teen and really loved his work). He was homeschooling his kids! I was new to the process as was he... we shared lots of feedback / ideas...very cool. I was able to share my experience as a student; and he as the parent / teacher
- Susan Beebe
If you want to find very interesting people right in your own town, head over to your local nursing home. You'll be amazed at what you'll learn and you'll feel good for doing it. You never know who you might meet and they'll be there next week if you want to go back to interview them. No need to travel around the world to find interesting people. You'll find amazing people in nursing homes who've essentially been written off by society. Seriously, try it!
- Scott Maentz
I had breakfast at a conference a couple of years back with Professor Urban Ungerstedt, a Nobel Prize committee member, who I later found out had invented an incredible medical procedure called cerebral microdialysis. Weird thing is he sought me out for some advice on one of my specialist subjects which is surely one mark of a smart person.
- Nicola Quinn
I wouldn't know where to begin, I meet interesting people all the time
- paul mooney
Really liked what you said Robert...
- Didier Lahely
Imagine if his badge had had a mobile barcode on it - the QR you mention, perhaps - which you could have snapped on your mobile device, and got profile info about him right away. No need for Googling for basic info, you would have already had that. That could have influenced what you did there and then, before you got home. Not a common standard yet, though.
- Neville Hobson
+1 for Neville's comment
- Andrew Terry
When I first started Following you on Twitter...I had NO idea who you were in the SM world..One day I addressed some comment to you...You replied to me..."Please email your comments to me so I can ignore you there just as easily as I ignore you on Twitter." Being new to Twitter, I was taken a back and my feelings were hurt. SO I Googled you. I still Followed you because I felt you had a...
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- SashaKane
The modest few, Robert.
- mandyvan
ROTFLMAO as they say: "Please email your comments to me so I can ignore you there just as easily as I ignore you on Twitter."
- Nick in Manila
SashaKane: sorry about that. I was having a bad day or something. I just wanted to get you to be public with me instead of private. I'd rather live my life completely in public, as much as possible. I really hate DMs, by the way, even though I've given up that particular fight and now try to answer them.
- Robert Scoble
That was the best part of working as a research chemist, the intelligent, motivated people I got to work with. Unfortunatly, the corperate culture and I didn't get along; and government backed research is a mind-numbing waste of time.
- Robert Hafer
Being in the music industry most of mine are "rockstars". After getting treated like crap by the band Tool (before they were really famous), me and my camera crew tucked our collective tail between our legs and started home. We stopped by a little gas station to fill up and another long haired guy was filling up too. I just started talking it up with him because I find people interesting. Turned out he was the drummer for Pearl Jam. We did an interview and previewed VS before it was mixed!
- MarkCarras
Robert, talking of virus experts, Prof Vincent Rancaniello who has done a lot of work on the polio virus is on FF - he joined the Life Science room FTW http://friendfeed.com/profvrr
- Sally Church
Sally: wow.
- Robert Scoble
It's funny when he liked an item in there http://friendfeed.com/e... I was thinking, "the name's familiar" and was Googling it then Maureen chipped in and I was like 'wow' too, it's a small world on the internets.
- Sally Church
Reading: "Tribes Author Says People, Not Ads, Build Social Networks" http://blog.wired.com/busines...
Bill Romanos, Ted Louie, Igor The Troll יִצְחָק and Jonas liked this
HOW TO: Get the Most Out of Digg ( http://mashable.com/2009... )
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My computing shrine:
Nicholas James, MicahBear78, Daniele Di Gregorio and 64 other people liked this
I spent a lot of time over the past week organizing my office and getting everything neat in preparation for building a live studio. It isn't quite as cool yet as Laporte's or Pirillo's but it is getting there. What does your office look like?
- Robert Scoble
from email
Office looks great! ^__^
- Nia
Those laptops are just in the right height for the little guy in the picture :)
- Jemm
Oh, my office is so not ready for the public. I have papers everywhere. I'll just go with a description. I have two massive corner desks, each with computers. Wedged between them is a drafting desk. Before the wall of desks is my 6ft worktable, and behind that various odds and ends I've never organized.
- xero
Reworking the workspace was one of my holiday projects that kind of went belly-up in a sea of laziness. Hoping to revisit that soon. It's too variable right now.
- Jared Smith
You don't want to see my office. Looks like a bomb went off. My camera is safe inside a Pelican case and I'm not worried unless a bear attacks it, a shark bites it, or a child under 5 touches it.
- Anthony Thompson
My office: a Dell widescreen laptop and a pot of coffee. And a lamp.
- Will Conley
wait..are there not child labor laws> How much are you paying your admin in this photo?
- Kevin Murray
@RealtyMan's "Command Central" looks like this http://twitpic.com/ttlo
- Gerry Realtyman Bourgeois
Looks like serious carbon footprint :-)
- Majento
WoW!! something to aspire..
- Prakash
The geek room in the basement of my office is going to be my studio, but I need to dig out the functional silicon based life forms that inhabit that space.
- Greg Birch
Gerry: I like yours better!
- Robert Scoble
like you can use more than three of those computers at the same time for something useful, tha'ts not video encoding rendering or clustering (for the latter laptop don't make sense at all, by the way, they have screens drawing unused power)
- Dorian Muthig
That looks like an ADD nightmare.
- Dean Clark
I usually only usetso computers at any one time. Some of these are for testing stuff out. The Sonos and Samsung are on loan. Gotta give those back in February.
- Robert Scoble
Agree with Dean - way too many screens. I have two 21" widescreens, and it's just right.
- Lawrence Liu
No TV's in there? I wonder how you have your gameroom set up.
- Amani
all you really need is a 12" Thinkpad X61s - think environment, guys!
- Migger
I have the same screen-count but one of them is an old Atari ST :-)
- Frank Rennemann
Eunuchs waiting on you and everything!!! But wait till you see mine...
- sofarsoShawn
Ok I give in. Will buy this http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/emperor...
- Migger
You can't really be using *all* of those laptops...?
- Charles Bihis
Nah, actually right now I'm using the Dell and the Mac Mini.
- Robert Scoble
Looks like a real TweetDeck central. ;-)
- Rutger Blom
My project over the summer as well. No shelves-messy desks - lots of cumputers..
- Roberto Bonini
Nice setup you have there
- Onur Gündüz
Ever determine what this does to your power bill, Robert?
- David Bisset (sn)
Robert, I don't think you have enough computers there.
- Steven Perez
Wish I had the space... I have that many and more in half of that.
- Ian D. Nock
from twhirl
What? No Commodore 64? :P
- Johnny Worthington
Here is my techy corner in my appartment: http://i.friendfeed.com/370e18f...
- Qbat
Like it. Gotta do a little straightening up, then I'll post my studio area.
- Dave Curlee
Welcome, President Obama - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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Welcome President Pirillo!
- Éric Senterre
Obamiconized - http://obamiconme.pastemagazine.com/entries...
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New HTC Phones
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New Windows Mobile smart phones from HTC. One on left is S743 which has nice qwerty keyboard. $500 unlocked. Available Q1. Nice!
- Robert Scoble
from email
Is anyone really excited by these?
- David Geller
I like sliders
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
I have S740 and its heavy and large.! Whats new with S743?
- Qbat
look like 2 year old nokias or sonys - they should stick to their strengths of touch phones and pda style phones
- Damian Holmes
I have an old HTC, Qtek 9100. Is it a good camera? GPS included? Keyboard like the good old Psion, etc? I have to ask my friend at Brightpoint about new smartphones.
- Martin Lindeskog
Shadow II for T-Mobile and their unlocked S270a?
- Michael G. Galli
I'm liking the look of that s743
- Mo Kargas
S743 looks just like my S740, whats new?
- Qbat
not smartphones, and def. not the G1
- jtothea
gotta agree. Their qwerty keyboard is why i'd pick an htc over a blackberry any day.
- David Jaeger
Kmart Harnesses Power of Influential Bloggers - MarketingVOX - http://www.marketingvox.com/kmart-h...
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"Kmart kick-started a social networking campaign by giving six well-known bloggers $500 gift certificates to go on a shopping spree in a Kmart store — then share the experience with readers. The bloggers could write anything at all, positive or negative, and all of them clearly disclosed the arrangement in their posts"
- AJ Kohn
from Bookmarklet
lol
- Allen Stern
I don't think I could find $500 worth of stuff I'd want at Kmart
- David Parmet
from twhirl
Yeah, it's odd. Buying your way into the blogosphere (though transparently) leaves me a bit cold but ... the numbers they report are interesting. You might have to mark this up as unappealing but successful. Sort of like telemarketing or spam.
- AJ Kohn
I thought I had a lot of followers until I saw that @guykawasaki has over 27K and @leolaporte has over 67K! Wow. Them's a lot of followers.
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Dave, did you see the video we did with @guykawasaki at http://www.fastcompany.tv ? We talk about Twitter a lot. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Dave if only I could get that many followers on twitter!! :)
- Paul
Shhhh, don't tell Dave to look at my Twitter account. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Don't worry, Robert. Your secret's safe with the 44,251 of us.
- Bruce Lewis
A new Star Machine is born.
- michael silverton
wait next scoble is going to say "its not about the number of followers but more importantly who you are following!" LOL
- Allen Stern
Just wait till *real* celebrities ramp up. I signed up to lance Armstrong's twitter the other day and he had 12k at that point.
- Richard
Allen: you're right!
- Robert Scoble
John Hodgman on City Arts & Lectures said, "As opposed to Jonathan Coulton who has some kind of weird "internet fame," I am *actually* famous." If TV and Big Screen Star Machines didn't catch the shot over the bow from Hodgman, things could get interesting. Anyone want to put odds on Old Media walking away with the thought, "puny internet spark-maker, you will never hold a candle to MY Star Machine!"
- michael silverton
StreamDrag: Listen to your favorite music for free - http://streamdrag.com/
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Would be a sweet stand-alone( I like to close my browser sometimes)
- Terence
Can even listen to comedy!! ;)
- Paul
Terence - use Fluid. Unless, of course, you're not on OS X.
- l0ckergn0me
If you're not on Mac OS X, there's always Prism.
- Victor Ganata
Sweet share, abusing it already
- Gordon Swaby
Looks cool but I can't see it lasting. The RIAA is everywhere.
- Kenton
same as that other service, Songza?
- Larry Hudson
looks greate!
- Mitra_s
I had an interesting conversation today withTumblr's CEO about how microblogs can make money. Tons of ideas! Twitter will do well, we think.
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So the question is, are any of them viable? What's your take?
- mikepk
Twitter has several options to make money. Just waiting for them to pick one.
- David Risley
twitterific is already making money, and that's a client app using the API. So no wonder if twitter makes money :)
- directeur
Well there's make money and there's "get the return the VCs/investors are looking for". Very different animals.
- mikepk
Are bloggers & social networks killing the big shows? - http://scobleizer.com/2008...
Nicholas James, Bill Romanos, Joe Dawson and 19 other people liked this
wow a Scoble post - a rare thing round these parts at the moment :)
- Zee.
Zee: 235 comments this week alone. You get my posts a little at a time here. :-)
- Robert Scoble
235 comments - you should be called "Scoble: The Discussion Maestro".
- Zee.
If trade shows are dying, RIP tradeshows. Now if only other professions would catch on, for example, Medicine. All the time doctors and surgeons spend basically on vacation at 'conferences' could be better spent treating patients.
- Will Higgins™
I'll miss the free T-shirts and the booth babes.
- Mark Ramsey
Trade shows (or the way corporations advertise) are evolving with the Internet. The world is bigger than Twitter and FriendFeed...
- Mona Nomura
Mona FTW.
- Shawn Farner
Trade shows are dying though I still prefer the live demo and human interaction. Maybe, I'm a dying tech breed. :(
- Moushumi Kabir
Mona is right. FriendFeed has, what, 200,000 accounts. Twitter, Six million? Facebook: 140 million. If I were smart I'd be spending all my time on Facebook. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Does that mean your average and not SMART? if that's the case I want to be like Scoble!! ;)
- Paul
Yikes, you may want to start with the basics. You + are != your... @Robert: Facebook (their business model) truly baffles me.
- Mona Nomura
Paul: it's always smart to bet on doubling pennies. Er, things that are small, but influential, and that grow quickly. FriendFeed is going to be the thing that grabs attention next year. Just watch.
- Robert Scoble
I am sure it will, that is why I have gotten on board with friend since the beginning. I'm just waiting till it explodes!! ;)
- Paul
Ideal would be to combine the features of FB, Twitter, FF. I would then deal with that new and all-in-one app.
- Moushumi Kabir
Mona: it doesn't baffle me. Last night Zuckerberg gave me some insights. They are doing a lot better than most people are thinking. I'm working on an article about this. I talked with Tumblr's CEO today, too. He gave me even more insights into how these things will make money.
- Robert Scoble
I'm already bored with Facebook. But, it's cool to connect. All those sheep throwing, and now snowball are just waste of time. So don't like most of the apps there.
- Moushumi Kabir
That's what baffles me the most - if Zuckerberg is purely a salesman or if he can actually walk the walk. Just look what happened with the apps. That said, he is allowed to make mistakes, live, and move forward. I, for one, am excited for your write-up, Robert!
- Mona Nomura
Moushumi? Clearly, you do not understand Facebook. A little research may be helpful - salesforce.com ring a bell?
- Mona Nomura
When scrabble came back, and tcomments on statuses, I started to understand the poularity of FB
- anna sauce
I've been so bored with Facebook, I haven't even joined. My wife has and loves it but I have to ask is the risk of a computer virus worth it?
- Paul
No doubt their revenue model is good. Their social ads gives personal touch and people like appearing on ads, I guess, human nature. That itself is a selling point to friends/family.
- Moushumi Kabir
@moushumi I agree re: the sheep throwing and silly apps. I use IGNORE a great deal in Facebook.However, I have set up a couple of groups in there, and it does help with exposure when there are 140 million using the darn thing!
- Ian May
Along with having friends on facebook who you know personally who wouldn't want to join. Although that just means every virus writer is looking to find a weakness on every front of Facebook!!
- Paul
Mona, I understand it but just don't dig it. Understanding and liking are 2 diff things.
- Moushumi Kabir
The difference between FF and FB for me is this: In facebook I tend to connect with meatspace family and friends. Here I connect with those I'm interested in following. It makes a huge difference to the content I see, read, and act upon.
- Ian May
Ian, that makes sense. I like many features of facebook as I do of twitter and friendfeed. Combining those features will be ideal for me. My $0.02. :-)
- Moushumi Kabir
Re trade shows: some small ones could survive, in the right markets. I attend a public safety conference every year (over 1000 attendees). There are 4 (perhaps 5) major vendors at this conference, all competitors. With one exception, every vendor has been a conference sponsor every year. However, there's market consolidation (my division is being acquired by one of the competitors), so the conference could conceivably see a revenue decrease. But they won't close their exhibit hall.
- Ontario Emperor
from fftogo
Then I do not understand why you guys are focusing on annoyances, when they have a lot of big things in store.
- Mona Nomura
Ian: I find the groups on Facebook subpar actually. There's no real incentive to check the discussion board of a group after you've joined it. Events are the same btw...
- Tom Ribbens
If only They could combine FF, Twitter, Facebook, Linkedin, and Some other good social media outlets then we would have a rockin place to be. No having to log in to one or the other just to check your messages.
- Paul
Oh, and regarding that conference - I suspect that I am the only attendee with a Twitter account, and the only one of two attendees with a FriendFeed account. Not sure how many blog or are on Facebook.
- Ontario Emperor
from fftogo
I have to say that I spend WAY more time in here, than I do in Facebook. Facebook tends to be an 'in and out' experience for me. a couple of 2-3 min sessions a day.
- Ian May
I didn't even get to climb 1/4 of the way up the mountain of swag. :(
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
If I were a company, I would not want to interact with a bunch of opinionated people megaphoning the first thing that comes to mind, unless I had to. Trade show phase outs are a god send, imho.
- Mona Nomura
Mona, it's not focusing on annoyance. Just saying, I don't think social networks are killing big shows, though they do need to revolve. If there were no trade shows bloggers too will have less topic to blog about. I'm bored with Facebook because I figured it out and there aren't any more challenges. IMO.
- Moushumi Kabir
Sobbing for the shows I will never see, the flashing pins that will never decorate my Windows Mobile cap, the caps and tee-shirts I won't get. I love you, Strands! How will I ever meet Scoble, if not for the hope that I will one day be able to afford to go to the shows that must go on?
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
MiniMage. where do you live? Might be fun to take a FriendFeed trip there.
- Robert Scoble
An obscure little place called Lexington, Kentucky. Nothing ever happens here, except for the occasional Microsoft Across America event. Gotta see if they have any scheduled for next year. Oh, dang, why's the UPS chirping?
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
I hear you, Moushumi but the world (consumers) is bigger than Social Networks and bloggers. Facebook is changing the way non tech users are getting information, as is the Internet, as is the market - trade shows / corporations are evolving WITH that. :)
- Mona Nomura
Mona, absolutely. It's consumers who are making the world go round and they are bigger than any social networks. Bloggers and social networks are where they are because it's consumers themselves who put them there. You are right; I was talking from tech point. As long as their is evolution, all is good. Till next time. :)
- Moushumi Kabir
Dell made $1M in revenue off f Twitter http://venturebeat.com/2008...
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How the heck did they do that?
- Josh Bancroft
Wordpress 2.7: Faster, Customizable, Automatic Updates ( http://mashable.com/2008... )
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The Future of Social Media | Social Media Explorer - http://www.socialmediaexplorer.com/2008...
ursi, Igor Poltavskiy, Susan Beebe and 5 other people liked this
I see a ton of new people are following me. Introduce yourself. I'm NOT autofollowing, but am looking to follow more smart people.
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Always nice to hear that we belong to the smart people :-)
- Fons Tuinstra
autofollows lead to alot of spam, or little content - i briefly review all, then choose
- clarke thomas
I once wrote a script that autofollowed everyone Scoble followed. I was a stupid 16 year old then :( Learnt from my mistake - Twitter was unusable till I started from scratch again.
- Yuvi
robert: been on ff awhile but only in the last week have really started using it as anything other than an aggregator for my infostream. still think it that's it's primary usefulness--just link people here and they get everything you do all in one place. found you when i heard you brought mr. tweet to his knees! thanks for all the lively conversation. now i have someplace else to waste even more time. my wife will be so pleased...
- Brendten Eickstaedt
Robert, seems you're following me here but not on Twitter so no point replying there. Energy therapies co-creator and trainer, teaching the world how to stop feeling bad. And it works, I don't feel bad you're not following me on Twitter and I could quickly get over it if you said I wasn't interesting enough to follow. Also, author, composer and artist. Life is full :)
- Nicola Quinn
Yuvi, that's funny. Were you able to revert to your previous set of follows?
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
Yuvi, exactly. Nicola, thanks! I'd rather follow here, truth be told.
- Robert Scoble
@Bruce: Nope. I was following, maybe 30 people before that. It wasn't too hard to add them after "The Cleansing". Though I did get to know some really cool new people because of that 'mass follow' though. Not that I would recommend it to anyone....
- Yuvi
hey i'm Ed (Live in Puerto Rico) and work in MIS over here. I'm also looking to follow more smart people ;)
- Edgar Rodríguez
Robert, I'm beginning to agree with you.
- Nicola Quinn
But I'm still trying to figure out why did you subscribed to my FF...
- Bibi
I've been following you here for a while, Robert. It's great to see a few people hold up some great conversations here. Wish I were more active myself. I only seem to manage to drift in every now and then. But I find the quality of content on FF is great.
- Alex von Halem
from twhirl
I follow you! here's me: www.dailypatricia.com
- Patricia
I follow you, but I've been following you for a while. I guess there is more action going on here than there, though :)
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Hi Robert. You're subscribed to me here which is probably better than following me on Twitter (although I'd love it if you did). I spend my time blogging on all the ways really Small Businesses and Entrepreneurs can grow their businesses. When you see anything useful I'd sincerely appreciate if you'd share what I've written to help more people.
- Internet Strategist
Robert, I can't imagine how you could follow anymore people... and if I have something to add, I'll probably do it here. Thanks.
- Floyd Davenport
I'm an avid tech geek and gamer to boot, and I'm always looking for ways to customise my desktop. . I do mashups (of the music kind) in my spare time, and...yeah. Funtimes!
- Neurario
Great, an opportunity to promote oneself :-) Just kidding... I’m Zack, entrepreneur and long time follower (mainly your blog). Now I’m just trying to get more involved with FF.
- Zack Brandit
We have had quite a few conversations here on FF, but I don't believe I have posted on this topic, nor introduced myself. So Hello, my name is Brendon Wadey and I am a 20 year old Graphic Designer, techy and interested in new things all the time. Glad to meet you :)
- Brendon Wadey
I love it, Zack's responded to a message Robert posted on Twitter and he's not on Twitter himself. I don't know quite why that tickles me but it does seem to prove some kind of point...
- Nicola Quinn
I know that Robert is a mutant with special social media info absorption powers, but I still have no idea how he's going to see the introductions on Twitter. I follow a few more than 200 people (it goes up several times a week) on Twitter, and in 2 minutes, nothing that was on the front page is still there, I'm sure. [edit: not an insult, btw, as a Marvel fan, there is a special place in my heart for mutantkind]
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
I'd posted on Twitter (I'm http://twitter.com/wordsfo...), but here's my introduction again here: I'm your Director and Recruiter with Uppercase Living® specialty Interior Decor and a FriendFeed early adopter
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
MiniMage: I see everything that people post with @scobleizer in a message.
- Robert Scoble
I'm Shawn pleased to meet you sir! PS @scobelizer
- sofarsoShawn
from fftogo
Hi, I am Janet or just jlt, nice to meet you.
- Janet
Hi Robert, been following for quite some time already. :) My name is Jonas, a Filipino blogger/community manager. Very pleased to meet you, thanks!
- Jonas
Thank you for the compliment Robert! :-)
- Mathew A. Koeneker
Hello. My name's Sharron and I follow you on FF.
- Sharron Field
from twhirl
Hi Robert, my name is Kevin. I have been following you on FF and just started over on Twitter.
- Kevin Whalen
Hello Robert. We've meet briefly before at the Web 2.0 Expo in 2007. I am the Online Community Organizer/Pastor for LifeChurch.tv . I think we are already connected here on Friendfeed, but saw this post and wanted to say hi. =)
- Tony
You're already following me, but what the hell. We've never met in person. I'm a grumpy young programmer and political pundit from Canada. I enjoy complaining about things to the people who make them, in a misguided effort to get them to improve whatever I complain about. When that doesn't work, sometimes I'll make my own version of whatever it is. I also follow the games industry and sometimes even make games, myself (both computer and pen & paper RPGs).
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
@Chris that was one hell of an into to yourself. Nice to meet you!
- Brendon Wadey
It's also quite truthful. I'd estimate that at least one third of my blog posts involve complaining about something. Most of the rest is self-promotion. :p
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
My new T-shirt slogan: "technically difficult and weird." That's what Facebook's Chris Putnam said when I asked for a more than 5,000 friend limit.
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how can it be "technically difficult and weird?" I take it, it's not a completely scalable architecture and would require a large-scale rewrite. How unfortunate if that's the case.
- John Wang
John: it takes more and more processor time the more people you have. They are fighting scaling problems all over the place as they flew past 100 million users. They got more users in the past three months than they had in the first three years of their life. Amazing growth there.
- Robert Scoble
Why do something the right way when you can do it the quick way? Isn't that the American way? :p
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
I'll take 1 too - fits me to a T as well
- Susan Beebe
Its a good problem to have.
- Jay
I guess when you get up above a few hundred friends, using Facebook is a whole different ball of wax. Thousands? Isn't it nearly useless at that point?
- David G. Johnson
c'mon stop bashing Facebook for this. supporting millions more users is way more important than enabling a handful of users (OK, probably just one individual) to have more than 5,000 friends.
- Jon Price
You should sell them. It's time for the official Scobleizer t-shirt, and that slogan prob'ly suits lots of us.
- Andy Kaplan-Myrth
We were able to make it work at myspace.. :)
- PaulKats
David: Facebook is far from useless when you have 5,000 friends. Why would you think it'd be useless? It actually gets MORE USEFUL the more friends you have! Facebook is really a big rolodex. Jon: more than 1,000 people have 5,000 friends, they tell me. I small minority, yes. But more are coming.
- Robert Scoble
Ever get the idea that Robert Scoble's brain is wired very differently than the brains of the rest of us?
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
I suppose Facebook's usefulness when one has thousands of friends depends on who you friend. If one friends 5,000 thirteen-year-olds, that person will be in a world of pain when he or she logs in.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
If I had 5000 friends and I knew folks at Facebook, I would ask for an extra long News Feed front page.
- Andrew
possible248: exactly. On my Facebook are the world's top tech CEOs, geeks, and press. Very useful to me. More useful, in fact, than the 8,000+ business cards I've collected over the past few years.
- Robert Scoble
MiniMage: I hope so, if you all are wired the same as me God help us all!
- Robert Scoble
I don't understand how they can't go over the 5k limit. Are they just assuming that no-one can have more then 5k associates?! Therefore, allowing a higher limit will associate them to be similiar to Myspace when they want to be seen as a social utility?!
- Nicholas James
bah! maybe they have some graph algorithm in n**2 or n**3 or n!-- you have to set a limit -- maybe it would be nice to disable this funky part of the app -- if it could be isolated. Scobble is asking to crash the servers each time he logs in.
- General Kafka
Scobble: have you tried to turn your 5000 friends on FB into LinkedIn contacts ? I find my FB neighborhood very "playful" and nothing like a professional rolodex...
- General Kafka
General: I'm not on LinkedIn. I tried it once and too many people asked me to do things for them so I left.
- Robert Scoble
I am on LinkedIN and I love it, it's very useful for a 20 year old designer. Yet I understand how you felt and why you left, cause I know many people who add people on there just to get stuff from people. I hate it, I would never ask people I don't even know for a favor, I hardly ask people I know.
- Brendon Wadey
Remember: Social media marketing is often about fishing where the fish are.
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Why do you say so? Because I thought its the other way round in times like these!
- Sampad Swain
Would you accept a challenge Jeremiah? :)
- directeur
Jeremiah, I am a firm believer that if you call it social media marketing, you have already failed. it is community building.
- Rob Diana
it's really just "marketing", no other labels needed. if your marketing strategy doesn't include social media components, it's a big fail.
- Jeremy Toeman
Rob, sorry to say this, but you are naive to think so. How are you even aware of Jeremiah or TC or anything else, if it wasn't "marketing"? it IS marketing not only "even" in social media. is IS merketing *because* it's social media.
- directeur
from NoiseRiver
It's marketing. We need to stop being ashamed of marketing (the best way to do this is not do shameful things).
- Neal Jansons
I start may of my posts with this phrase about fish. I like it :) First picked up in the WOMM bok by Sernovitz. Actually the phrase better works on ppl who have ever went fishing
- Maria Podolyak
This is just pimping Brogan's latest PDF. Don't think about it too much.
- abacab
directeur and Neal, the main reason I avoid the marketing term is because of its idea of a campaign. The marketer launches their campaign and cannot understand why there is no "traction". There are lots of examples, some from Jeremiah's blog, where building or investing in the community is how success in social media can be gained.
- Rob Diana
...and to continue my point, people do not like being obviously marketed to (generally). However, if you have "conversations" with people, they are more likely to try something if asked.
- Rob Diana
Great discussion. I think "marketing" needs a new face. I like the idea of campaigns, they have focus and support... we just need to build more sustainable campaigns in SM, centered on engagement and conversations. Traditional campaign concepts need to go away. We also need to consider exit strategies... which conversations give us naturally. :)
- Floyd Davenport
Can you explain to me this term "social media marketing?" Does the fish metaphor mean it scales?
- shelisrael1
+1 Shel - LOL!!
- Susan Beebe
I had no idea that Brogan did such a PDF, I've been using this phrase for some time myself, great minds think alike?
- Jeremiah Owyang
My apologies, then, Jeremiah. It's quite well timed with his release, so it seemed logical enough.
- abacab
I think if you are thinking "marketing", you are probably going to do it wrong. How many morons do you encounter on social media that forget about the social part and think shooting you links with impersonal text attached is ok? They are getting it wrong.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Rah, I really don't see that often at all.
- mjc
I see it all the time, just about everywhere. Maybe I'm a target :)
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Jerry Yang Speaks At Web 2.0: Our Live Notes - http://www.techcrunch.com/2008...
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RSS Adoption at 11% and it May Be Peaking, Forrester Says - http://www.micropersuasion.com/2008...
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I strongly disagree with this "analysis". Why not poll Web browsing penetration in 1997 and say it has peaked? Silliness.
- Louis Gray
I've not read the actual report (and I'd laugh and cry if I did, I'm sure), but I'm still completely unclear if Forrester's referring to RSS specifically or content syndication in general...?
- abacab
How about Atom adoption? :-) Or is RSS / Atom are synonymous in the Forrester report.
- Atul Arora
if RSS were one click it would change everything. I believe that. RSS should be as simple as following on a social net
- Noah David Simon
Part of the problem is surely the name. RSS. It doesn't even stand for anything - or at least, there's not widespread agreement on what it means. There's also the terminology associated with it, such as "subscribe", which to many implies payment.
- David Young
Wish RSS would go to be main stream like Email,it is such a great technology that change everything after the invent of PC,cellphone and the Internet.
- Steve Chou
So far in my early adopting history, every new technology that I've embraced with force and used enthusiastically for more than a year has gone mainstream in a really big way. I use feeds and feed readers much more than email, email readers and standard Web browsing these days. I am predicting more than 90% penetration of RSS/Atom technologies (or their future iterations) among regular...
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- Sean McBride
@Scott Maybe it was Forrester who bought Macbooks before last week's announcement. ;-)
- Steve Rubel
I have trouble believing that. Why would they check RSS adoption. Many of the people who get feeds through RSS applications may not even be aware that there is RSS involved.
- Dorai
I agree with Louis, think Forrester is way off here
- Kipp Bodnar
the crap that's being published about web tools is amazing!
- Joe Buhler
I've abandoned traditional RSS all together. If I really *must* subscribe to some sort of RSS content and the author isn't on FriendFeed, I'll just create an imaginary friend and mix it in. FF trumps any RSS reader I've ever tried.
- Thomas Hawk
Thomas Hawk - again, allow me to dissent. :) I find Google Reader to be far more efficient for tracking and managing news than Friendfeed. In fact, I follow many Friendfeed feeds through Google reader. FF is superior for conversational interactions on news items, of course. Main reasons for my opinion: list view, mark all as read, mark as read while scrolling by.
- Sean McBride
I prefer NewsNetWire for all my RSS needs, as it syncs across my multple computers and my iPod touch, and for most feeds, I'm not interested in the chatter that comes with FF.
- Bob M. Montgomery
from twhirl
I was a longtime FeedDemon user until I started using Google Reader. I like being able to mark my favorite posts and sharing them with my friends. The commenting is useful too. Accessing it online anywhere and being able to interact with it on FF is unmatched by any other feed reader. RSS clients will be gone in the future. Everything is going into the browser.
- Rolf Schewe
I think RSS will find further adoption but it's going to be a slow hard climb and then a marked and substantial acceleration once it tips. I'm a fairly Internet savvy guy and it took *me* a while to fully grok RSS and what it could do for me. Google Reader was my way in and now I'm hooked. It needs to be marketed better and subscriptions need to be 'late majority' proof.
- AJ Kohn
The problem with Friendfeed as a news reader: Why should I have to scroll through the comments on items I have no interest in reading? Why should I have to see those items and comments again and again and again when looking for new items? Forget about "Hide": that's too much work and effort.
- Sean McBride
I trust my own judgment about sources and topics more than any commenters or comments on Friendfeed. Signal to noise on GR for me blows away FF. Most of the best minds in the world are still not FF users.
- Sean McBride
social network feeds, widgets/gadgets/apps, igoogle/my yahoo, ipods, appletv/tivo, etc...they all use rss...it's just plumbing...jeez :)
- don loeb
Don - RSS is also a radical paradigm shift at the user interface level in information consumption on the Internet: bring the most relevant information to the user automatically rather than the user manually foraging for the best information website by website. The efficiencies gained are enormous. Ordinary people (as opposed to zealous early adopters) will eventually figure this out.
- Sean McBride
@Sean: Agreed. Once people understand it's like getting your magazines and newspapers delivered to your door instantaneously they'll start to get it.
- AJ Kohn
good point
- truefreemind
@Jason: Good point. Many still use the Internet for a limited set of purposes. Email, Search. If you're not looking for content, then RSS doesn't easily solve your problem.
- AJ Kohn
The RSS model has the potential to manage efficiently and optimize all your daily news and information inputs -- not just new data on websites. Think of it potentially as the ultimate personal assistant.
- Sean McBride
I agree with Forrester, that 11% say they use RSS - while another equal amount might use it but aren't sure. FF'ers are early adopters, so we're part of that.
- Mike Reynolds
idk facebooks kinds growing on me sine I tied it into twitter, ff, plus it's got cute pix of my wife. I can barely keep up a scobles shared reader rss much less my own 440 feeds
- mal
sean, i agree with you. what i meant was that the benefits of rss are what users need to know about, not the technology. and, the reach of rss is way beyond the "traditional" rss reader model and extends to many different forms of distributed content consumption...
- don loeb
RSS is used all over even if users don't realize it.
- Jake (aka Jawee)
don loeb - well said.
- Sean McBride
Domai.nr (al.ph/a) rocks! Where are your wallets?? ; )
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http://domai.nr A great tool for hunters and entrepreneurs! " Give your domain search a happy ending. There’s a whole world of domains out there—hundreds at the top-level and even more beyond—Domainr helps you explore them all. Some of our favorites are cr.yp.to, itha.ca and jish.nu."
- Erhan
It's just like http://xona.com/domainhacks/ but has better design
- Eren Emre Kanal
Eren: Thanks, xona's is great too - as you said.
- Erhan
this came at just the right time
- Handem
"qui.ck .an/d h.an/dy .to/ol aga.in" ; ) I remember your previous "like" http://friendfeed.com/e... * you re welcome! ; )
- Erhan
Working through the weekend on the Community Platform Wave. Weekends are the only times I have to focus. Burnout apporaching
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How ya' doin', Jeremiah? Did you unplug a bit? Take care of that brain of yours :-)
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
Still working hard...took a break to hang with frinds in afternoon
- Jeremiah Owyang
good for you!
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
Jeremiah, I'm seeing a lot of discussion re: burnout and fatigue. Does this speak well for your employer, and should they be concerned?
- Louis Gray
Liking for Louis's comment - it's a serious concern!
- Jesse Stay
AIM vs Windows Live vs Yahoo! messengers in the USA - http://geeks.pirillo.com/xn...
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TwitterKeys: ♥ ✈ ☺ ♬ ☑ ♠ ☎ ☻ ♫ ☒ ☤ ☹ ♪ ♀ ✩ ☠ in Twitter! - http://thenextweb.org/2008...
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