I lied. One more, because I almost forgot my next line of photobombing was going to be Asian stars, which got woefully neglected earlier in the day. So have some Gong Li. Had I time, she'd be joined by Zhang Ziyi, Maggie Cheung, etc, as I thought of more. #beautifulcelebrityday
"The fact they'd meet in a neutral place like this implies, although does not prove, they chose a public place for its neutrality. Or they just wanted coffee and inevitably started talking shop, albeit in public. But since when do billionaires have to step out for coffee? The only thing that adds up is that neither felt comfortable meeting at each other's HQs, and this is the start of talks that will inevitably be tense for both sides. I'd assume the coffee was not poisoned. And that they did not go somewhere to wrestle."
- Louis Gray
from Bookmarklet
They definitely wanted to be seen together. The tension between them risks the luster of both companies, so showing that there's some sort of personal relationship still there helps with this. Calafia is the 'place to be seen' and it worked pretty well.
- Kevin Fox
I'm not sure I'd call Calafia "neutral ground", though.
- Ben Darnell
I was going to make a crack: "That can't really be Steve! He doesn't have an iPad with him!" And then I saw it in its black case, sitting on the table.
- Kevin Fox
Hey Louis - you have to stop stalking those guys with your spy camera. They are going to catch on.
- Martha
Martha, it was not me, but if I had seen them, I would have said hi and shook hands. I'm rude like that. The one time I did meet Steve (at the Palo Alto Apple Store) I asked him an iPod support question.
- Louis Gray
I would absolutely love the opportunity to meet these guys and just sit there listening to their chat.
- Martha
from BuddyFeed
the link to the body language analysis based on 2 images is just so much bullsh*t
- Iphigenie
Kevin: apparently, it's a menu, not an iPad: "Update: No, it's not an iPad. It's a menu. Tipster says the first thing he looked for was an iPad, and that isn't it."
- Simon
and the whole bit about being "outside" as a message... LOL to that. As if they wouldnt have been spotted and photographed "inside?". Perhaps it was just a nice day, spring coming, lets get a coffee outside the endless meeting room...
- Iphigenie
“Not everyone is on board, though: California Mothers Against Drunk Driving say that the legalization of marijuana could cause impaired driving and its attendant fatalities.”
- Anthony Citrano
from Bookmarklet
@Joe: it would damage the "way of life" for many south of the border, too. To me, that's one of the upsides.
- Anthony Citrano
You think, Joe? I've heard so many "it will save the California economy" arguments but I have doubted them.
- Lo the Baker
Just not wasting money on all prisons and law enforcement would be a big win for me. Though Humbolt is already planning how to profit, so it will help. It's a shame this kind of stuff makes sense only on the economics and not the politics of individual rights.
- Todd Hoff
I've never heard of someone smoking a bowl and then beating the shit out of his wife, like you do with whiskey, which is perfectly legal and just as impairing. Also, "legalization of marijuana could cause impaired driving and its attendant fatalities" - so does drinking. And texting. And talking on cell phones. And gesticulating wildly. And driving while tired. And accidentally burning yourself with a legal tobacco cig.
- ωαřмaiden ☆TeamOtto☆
I must say, the culture of "it's okay to drive while high, it's safe" has always bothered me. If this does pass, I would like to see more of a crackdown on driving high, especially now that field sobriety tests for that are being used effectively in Europe. It's safer than driving drunk, but still more dangerous than many potheads seem to believe. I've heard "I drive better high" more than once.
- Lo the Baker
Joe, I don't get it. I'm not saying I disagree, I just never thought about how this could hurt growers in CA. Can you explain in a little more detail, because now I want to know.
- Lo the Baker
Joe - The premium product will always be valued, and not much of it is cultivated nearby. Regardless of our attitudes about legalization, the value tier (which is where most of the rest of the north counties production is concentrated) will export to the rest of the U.S. Insofar as GMO goes, it's up to the consumer (who is very educated in cannabis) to just say "hell no".
- Rich Reader
Interesting. I'm not entirely convinced the price will really go down all that much. In fact, Planet Money discussed this & concluded it wouldn't change that much. I know medical mj is just as expensive or more so than street prices. (of course, if it did I wouldn't really complain that much... but still, I think there are plenty like me who will pay for the good stuff)
- Lo the Baker
What about the influx of people who would move to the state? Would that have a positive, negative, or negligible effect on the state?
- Chris Heath
sounds like barbarians more than pilgrims
- Chris Heath
Those buds are pathetic. I say we smoke 'em so we can make room for bigger buds. Wait, what?
- Hookuh Tinypants
I haven't noticed the price go down. :p
- Rodfather
I'm more worried about law enforcement/jails focusing on the wrong thing. So if you legalize, that frees up manpower to do more important policing. Also can't really see the central/san joaquin valley embracing pot growing as they mostly export those goods, and if you can't export, etc.
- anna sauce
Legalizing is a win/win economically speaking for CA. First, no more money spent of enforcing the law and prosecution the law breakers. Second, the state can actually collect taxes on it, and third people will have legitimate jobs growing and selling it. It will also put more standards on the product itself so the consumer will get a higher quality product with more choices and probably similar prices to what they see on the street.
- Kelly W.
@Joe: I know you're being funny, but the implication that people who want to legalize marijuana are all marijuana users is troubling. It's the type of knee-jerk dismissal the drug warriors have engaged in for decades. I want to legalize gay marriage, but I don't want to marry a man. I want to legalize prostitution, but I don't patronize prostitutes. I want beer and tobacco to be legal, and I use neither. Why the cultural impulse to presume a person's policy opinions are necessarily rooted in self-interest?
- Anthony Citrano
@Monique and Todd - I totally agree; to me this is a civil rights issue. It sickens me that it's OK with us that we round up a million people a year and put them in cages for possessing an herb -- and we can't see our way to changing the policy until we find out there might be some money in doing so. We are a sick fucking people.
- Anthony Citrano
I have to question why this discussion only applies to Marijuana. Should we be locking anyone up for knowing ingesting a chemical?
- Alex Scrivener
Alex, if there is any progress whatsoever in this initiative, I would leave it at that. Its long been apparent that the only entity that considers marijuana harmful is the federal government. They really have no sound justification, regardless of what they attempt to scare us with. OTOH, if you even begin to bring up other substances the process dies, and in fact will set it back. Take the low hanging fruit while its ripe.
- JCunwired
It shouldn't Alex, but the world is more complicated than that.
- Todd Hoff
@Alex: what Todd said. But I'll go further: it's because we are generally a dim people, still haunted by the ghosts of Puritanism.
- Anthony Citrano
why would you post a private link in a public thread?? why oh why?
- Chris Heath
thanks for posting the follow up link mr joe
- chaz2b
@Joe: you - and many other people - don't think so, either. but you're a little out of touch. one million arrests per year nationally (for simple possession).
- Anthony Citrano
@Joe: I'll see your condescension and raise you one. First, I am not from Southern California. Second, I have been working diligently on the drug policy issue for twenty years - well before it was chic. From advising candidates and elected officials to drafting policy to bringing non-profit groups into the House and Senate for work sessions. The answer to your question is yes. In fact,...
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- Anthony Citrano
@Joe: I only said "a little" out of touch, for thinking no one in California is in jail for simple possession. The consequences of simple possession can be grave and really mess up a person's life.
- Anthony Citrano
I'll bet there were more than 25 in the past month just within a mile of my house.
- Anthony Citrano
In MA we passed a bill decriminalizing small possession, but it didn't go the way we planned. The police now have no authority to check IDs of people caught smoking in public so most tickets are made out to Mickey Mouse or something else retarded. The fine is harder to collect then a parking ticket. You can't half-ass it, IMO, make it legal and regulate it. Create a commission to...
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- <3Heather<3
Apparently not you (oops). But I agree with whoever said it before, legal freedoms shouldn't be about how much money can be made off the law. Also, if pot is going to stay illegal they should crack down on law enforcement where known growing operations are taking place. That would likely increase the price of pot, but decrease those property values.
- <3Heather<3
not really - regulations are supposed to keep producers of goods and services honest and keep them from using/abusing their power of supply over those who have the demand
- Chris Heath
Bu çocuk daha bu yaşta kafasını bunlara yoruyorsa ileride nasıl olur tahmın edemıyorum. Normal birşeymiş gibi insanlarda çocuga kızmak yerıne bunu videoya alıyorlar.. Bu kafayla nereye kadar gideriz orasıda meçhul. Diğer bi Merak ettigimde bu çocuk kımleri örnek alıyorda bu halde.
- Arzu
@Arzu haklisin. Mesela ulkemizde kirsal kesimde ilk cinsel deneyimini eseklerle yasayan gencimizin sayisi emin ol sandigindan daha cok. Bence sorun cok daha farkli yerlerde, sosyolojik tartismalara girmek lazim bunun icin, benim pek bilgi sahibi oldugum alanlar degil acikcasi. Belki aramizdan birileri yardimci olabilir.
- Ekin Arabacıoğlu
ülkemizden bir manzara değil bu benim bildiğim...
- gonzoff
Because Connecticut V would go outside to play, while California V stays inside to play :)
- Carlos Urrutia
from Android
Yes because of all those sunny New England days. You can't step outside without burning.
- Dave Friedel
from Android
And Amy, my secretary doesn't stink. She's a really good person. You two would get along great. In fact, we should all go out to dinner one night and talk about some things.
- Dave Friedel
from Android
it also says gluttony is a sin, no? [especially in Beverly Hills, but that's only in the newer versions]
- Anthony Citrano
from BuddyFeed
i think their is something in their about silicon too .. oh, yeah, do not build your rack, er, house, upon sand ..
- Gregory Lent
@Gregory - I think you're either a few hundred miles off, or you forgot an "e". ;)
- Anthony Citrano
Gregory was talking about silicon, though, so I think he intended it for one of the techie posts. ;)
- Anthony Citrano
@Davis: Well, is it an opinion or bigotry? If someone said they didn't believe in mixed marriages, or suffrage, or racial equality ... would we simply say, 'hey, that's their opinion.'? At some point don't you have to be intolerant of intolerance?
- AJ Kohn
So people can only hold opinions if they are not significant to you? Where does this line get drawn?
- Alex Scrivener
Some things are opinions and some are facts, is it opinion that some people should not be slaves or a fact worth fighting a war over. Race, sexual orientation and gender intolearance are no longer opinions they are hate crimes
- WarLord
Would genocide be an opinion? I recall a passage from V in which a soldier described the killing of others akin to stamping on ants. With so many people in the world, it really didn't matter in the scheme of things.
- AJ Kohn
I object to the concept of thought police. Genocide is the systematic killing of an ethnic group (which oddly precludes genocide of homosexuals, since they aren't an ethnic group), not a belief that some action is wrong.
- Alex Scrivener
So rape would be an opinion? (Just pushing to see if there are boundaries to a thought-police-free arena.) Oh, and I've very free to have the opinion (thought police free) that this type of opinion is wrong and ignorant. She's allowed to her opinion, and I'm just as free to call her a bigot and troglodyte. Freedom!
- AJ Kohn
the e would have helped .. not much can be done with changing people's beliefs, it is who they are
- Gregory Lent
No alex at a certain point some things must be facts or there is no civilization possible. If slavery is merely just a different of viewpoint what of racial discrimination? Was holocaust just a big misunderstanding? No some things can't merely be opinion and its not PC theatre it comes down to right wrong real things worth dying for
- WarLord
I have opinions about rape and slavery, you have opinions about rape and slavery. Neither of those are rape or slavery, they are opinions.
- Alex Scrivener
Sophistry alex gravity is no matter my opinion - Rape is no matter our opinion - hate is no matter our opinion
- WarLord
What's wrong with having the opinion that she's an idiot?
- Rob H.
I,d have sex with her evil sexs is evil is were a bad girl trys to be good are you having developmental problems I don,t care I,d be gay to keep a gay person happy and would find love for a women where there,s a lack of both love for men thats a man saying that is there more love between women celibacy can be worse as a love of a mind is a powerful thing a bed is no place for a intellectual consistent .
- Gratten
That is, by far, the best comment I have ever seen on FriendFeed.
- Akiva
Look Im trying the deep out in a shallow piss off
- Gratten
Wow. Just... wow. Check out his feed. It's all like that. Edit: Also his blog! Holy cow.
- Rochelle
"Powered by a 6.2-liter V-8 engine and a hybrid drive system, the 918 Spyder Concept could preview a new supercar from the company. We're not expecting it for another year or two at the earliest, however, as its 9,200-rpm, 500-horsepower output and 78-mpg efficiency are sure to prove difficult to render in production. Performance isn't hampered by the hybrid drive system, however: 3.2 seconds to 62 mph, 198 mph top speed, and a promised Nurburgring Nordschleife lap time of under 7:30--faster than the Carrera GT that preceded it. Electric motors on the front and rear axles contribute 218 horsepower to the mix."
- Kurt Starnes
from Bookmarklet
This car and hybrid models coming soon from Audi, Mercedes and other makers will make it very difficult for start-ups like Tesla and Fisker. I want the start-ups to succeed, but the amount of money and R&D the majors can pour into these projects is significant. And I can't forget to mention the experience of the old-guard companies.
- Kurt Starnes
Not to mention the brand recognition, distribution, product support and marketing capability,
- Brian Sullivan
Very good points, Brian. The four you mention are profound.
- Kurt Starnes
"Collected here are the photos from the winners of the 39th Annual National Wildlife Photo Contest. This year’s contest winners are drawn from nearly 70,000 entries—the largest pool in contest history—in seven categories: Mammals, Birds, Other Wildlife, Landscapes and Plant Life, Backyard Habitats, Connecting People and Nature, Global Warming."
- Kimber Scott
from Bookmarklet
Thank you so much for bringing this to our attention. Man Talk about a Year of the Tiger photo!
- Alannah Ryane
"Whistler Sliding Centre. Day 5 of the 2010 Winter Olympics. Women's Singles Luge. Megan Sweeney of The United States descends the track so fast that she begins to travel through time."
- Otto
In ten years we're either going to be watching preteens have virginal sex on CSPAN or we're going to enter another age of puritanism. I JUST CAN'T WAIT.
- Akiva
the really sad thing is, this kinda clothing isn't new - for the past 5 years at least there's been tshirts with slogans on them waaaaaaaay older than the kids who are meant to wear them and an object that totally disgusted me to hear about from a friend with kids... Thongs for 5 to 6 year olds. I remember having garish colours and loads of random styles/designs as a kid. Now, they just seem to be clones of their parents. Something went wrong somewhere.
- alphaxion
<noah cyrus> does this bag make me look fat? </noah cyrus>
- Anthony Citrano
You know, I feel bad for her. It's not her fault that her parents have few boundaries and seem hell bent on ensuring that their kids make money and get glory, instead of having a real childhood. Sorry, I'm keeping my daughter a kid for as long as I can.
- AJ Kohn
..... Our favourite robot is Mo Kargas here on FriendFeed... I love him but I'm sure he wants his ports to be used in the fashion of his choosing...
- Johnny
from iPhone
"I was next-door at the Consumer Electronics Show" - Riiiiight. Pull the other one, it's got bells on. ;)
- John Craft
Veronica: I think they're all off googling 'sex robots'.
- Amy
Matthew, I believe you can have them "bathe the cat" or "dust the baseboards" but no housework.
- Marty
Matthew... I'm sure they could be used for both at the same time... If they're not made by Apple that is :P
- Johnny
from iPhone
So one day Veronica will eat too much Thai food and split into two Veronicas?
- Ghworg
Apparently. That might explain Felici-- nah, I won't go there...
- Thomas
I just dearly love that it was a classy article. As we'd expect from you, of course. But so many people would have written that piece with either the maturity of fourteen-year-olds or would have reported the first level of superficiality from the press release. But no...true to form, you gave that piece the best treatment it could have had. Um, that's kind of why we follow you. Well,...
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- Ross Bennett
If anyone has not read Salon's article on the Real Doll, I highly suggest it, then suggest cradling your nearest loved one in appreciation: http://www.salon.com/mwt...
- aldenoneil
Although... a real Veronica doll would be hot. Just sayin'.
- Dave Friedel
But it would need blonde highlights. :)
- Dave Friedel
Carlos: I'm sure the hashtag was Fee's idea, I just implemented it :)
- Amy
Ahhhh Dave, lowering the tone as usual. We can't take you anywhere!
- Amy
I forgot to tell you, unlike the iPad, the iVeronica doll *will* have a camera. Unfortunately I can't say where it's located. Let's just say it will be good for those low-angle shots.
- Dave Friedel
Veronidroid 2.0 will have USB ports in the nostrils. Convenient.
- Dave Friedel
It'll sort of work like a Furby, except that you can teach it to read teleprompters.
- Dave Friedel
When not in use, you can stick it in front of a gaming console for hours.
- Dave Friedel
Watch out, everyone, Dave is on a roll (of some kind).
- Veronica
Best to let him get it out of his system... :)
- Thomas
You should see the ones I restrained from writing.
- Dave Friedel
Gamer mode is an add-on pack. They don't include it in the box because Veronidroid would be stuck in Gamer mode and the user would never see the other modes.
- Dave Friedel
She comes with multi-touch too. Which basically means you can [beep beep] her [beep beep] even though they are not quite [beep].
- Dave Friedel
And to top it off, she comes 12.1 THX Surround Sound. Audio has always been a key feature in Veronidroid.
- Dave Friedel
It's used to doing many things at once. Definitely has multi-task. Crashes once and a while, but a little wine reboots it.
- Dave Friedel
The only recall on the Veronidroid was when it was being shipped on the east coast. It wanders off and just stops in Dunkin Donuts for hours... but only in Punk mode. Switch it to hipster and it looks for food that has some kind of grand narrative or history behind it that makes it seem better.
- Dave Friedel
If you add too much wine to the Veronidroid, it'll start emailing you complaints or blaming you for things you didn't do.
- Dave Friedel
If you lose your Veronidroid, just pick up any shiny Apple product and wave it around in the air... she comes right back.
- Dave Friedel