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THE SNOW DAY - Best Illustrated Children’s Books of 2009 - The New York Times - http://www.nytimes.com/gift-gu...

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"Written and illustrated by Komako Sakai. Arthur A. Levine/Scholastic. $16.99. (Ages 3 to 5) A bunny child stays home from school when the world is beset by a snowstorm." - edythe from Bookmarklet

i love the drawings. of course it makes me think of one of my favorite books--one of the greatest books ever for children--The Snowy Day. - edythe

http://friendfeed.com/furry... - edythe

Mark Krynsky to Mark's feed, Meme

Old School Geek Shirt Meme

May 15 - Comment - Like - Share

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Instructions: Find the oldest and geekiest shirt you own and take a picture with it on. - Mark Krynsky

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I'm totally going to do this. Hold on. - Admiral Anika

OMG! +50bn ! - Mo Kargas

Anika...we're waiting anxiously. - Mark Krynsky

boo. it's packed away. I still have the bright orange tee shirt that was part of my freshman year gym uniform. but it's in storage with the rest of my stuff. - ♥patricia♥

Storage?!? Well take a little trip out there this weekend...we'll still be here. - Mark Krynsky

Here it is: http://friendfeed.com/fabooma... - Admiral Anika

Mark, what you been drinking? - Derrick

Nothing yet Derrick...thanks for reminding me it's time to get my drunk on. - Mark Krynsky

I may have one more shirt. - Admiral Anika

Here's mine: http://ff.im/2WmEh - Parth Awasthi

Here's another: http://friendfeed.com/fabooma... - Admiral Anika

Crap. Ditched most of my geeky shirts for cycling event shirts. I do have a 2004 DARPA shirt, though... - Sue Radd

DARPA = GEEK - Mark Krynsky

Fuck, most of my geeky T-shirts became victims of entropy. - Adrian

Please Adrian. You got a buttload of stuff in that closet. LOOK FOR IT! - Admiral Anika

*breaks out the lazy FF list again for a possible new member* - Mark Krynsky

Anika, is this Adrian YOUR Adrian? *friending* - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

Ow... my TOE! Anika can you look in the closet for me.... pleeeease?? *wink*wink - Adrian

Yes, Jandy. That's my husband. Adrian, I'm not about to stumble up these stairs. - Admiral Anika

My bad for not getting his last name at the meetup. :) - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

That was because Anika didn't let him talk *ducks* - Mark Krynsky

Mark, LOL. Hey, when are we gonna do another meetup? WE NEED TO PLAN THIS SHIT. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

*dead* at Jandy swearing. lolz. - Derrick

Pshaw. "Shit" doesn't count as swearing. Not when I'm drinking. At lunch today I was driving and told my coworkers if we didn't get to the restaurant they picked soon, we were going to "fucking Panda Express." I kid you not. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

I'm SO up for another meet up. - Derrick

This post just got upgraded to PG-13 - Mark Krynsky

*kicks Mark in the shin* He wouldn't have said anything anyway. - Admiral Anika

I want to do a meetup at my house if you guys are up for it. Just need to figure out a good date. Saturday May 30th might be good for me. - Mark Krynsky

I can do that, but I'm not going to be on my best behavior. - Derrick

I think we can swing that day. - Admiral Anika

Good, because I wouldn't tolerate that Derrick. - Mark Krynsky

Well, hell, I'll leave my pants at home. - Derrick

Good cause the pool will be warm and if it isn't there's always the Jacuzzi. - Mark Krynsky

Go Swearing Jandy. Panda Express? I don't wish that on my worst enemy. - Derrick

I think I can do May 30th. Is that Memorial Day weekend? Or is that the weekend before? I should ifnd out before I go into work and there's no work. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

It's the week after. May 25th is Memorial Day. - Mark Krynsky

Derrick, but the Panda Express was RIGHT THERE. And I didn't know where the hell they were trying to get me to go. The other choice that I knew where was was McDonalds. We did finally find it, though - and had awesome BBQ chicken sandwiches, as you saw in my feed at lunch. Way better than Panda Express. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

Jandy, I looked that place up and bookmarked it. Chick's in Calabasas? I'm coming for you. - Derrick

Dude, if you ever come out, let me know. I'll meet you there. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

Would just like to add: The Jaguar was NOT 64 BIT. Lying Atari. However, Aliens vs. Predator? The awesome. </geek> - Pete Delucchi

Ha Pete...Tru Dat. - Mark Krynsky

Here's mine http://friendfeed.com/alieb... :D - alieb

I went with what I was already wearing, but I can definitely find older and geekier. - Rob Haas

Robert...then tomorrow a part deux is in order. - Mark Krynsky

JaGYOOwire - Josh Haley

Finally found one! http://friendfeed.com/laurabo... - Laura Lou Who

*bump* it's not too late. I'm sure folks would love to see your submissions to close out the weekend. - Mark Krynsky

Jaguar?! Wow, that is going back. - Diego Barros 

Bump for the good times. - Mark Krynsky

Kol Tregaskes to Kol's feed, Google Wave, Google Wave Developers, Appetite, TheNextWeb Forum

What's your Google Wave account? Mine is kolint [at] googlewave [dot] com. Feel free to add me.

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If you want an invite or have invites to give away check the 'Great Google Wave Invite' thread here: http://ff.im/91M9R EDIT: Or try this for invites: http://googlewaveinvites.com/ - Kol Tregaskes

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mmastrac - Matt Mastracci

127ajr I wish we didn't have to keep our gmail names. - Californian

jeromeflipo - Jérôme Flipo

taylanaydinli. i have 0 contacts at the moment so this is a useful thread for me:) - Taylan Aydınlı

roshan.ramachandran - Roshan Ramachandran

Added you all. Taylan, well you have at least one now. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes

Wait, Google Wave gives you an email address? Super awesome! - Nick Humphries

Nick, well it's your Gmail address but with @googlewave.com instead of @gmail.com (or @googlemail.com) - Kol Tregaskes

I'd like one. hmnunes@gmail.com - HN from iPhone

HN, post here instead: http://ff.im/91M9R - Kol Tregaskes

Kol: That's pretty neat. Wish it was shorter like wave.com or gwave.com (Google owns gwave.com anyway) or something. - Nick Humphries

i think this @googlewave.com email address is a temporary thing during testing. after it goes live you should be able to just use it with your google account. at least that's what i think:) - Taylan Aydınlı

@gwave.com doesn't seem to work. - Kol Tregaskes

any you give me an invite? - Goofy2

See the first comment, Goofy2 - Christopher A Carr

tks in advance for an invite !http://scr.im/3fg - arnet

Goofy2, post here: http://ff.im/91M9R - Kol Tregaskes

andrewterry2.0@googlewave.com - Andrew Terry

please an invite =/ m.furkantunali [\at/] gmail.com - Furkan Tunalı

Furkan, post here instead: http://ff.im/91M9R - Kol Tregaskes

Thanks, sorry. - Furkan Tunalı

if only you could bold an announcement in FF like you can in Wave :D [oh, and my username on Wave is the splendiforously original "adamlasnik"] - Adam Lasnik

selcuke@gmail.com .thx - Selcuk Ergin

bkoknar@gmail.com davetiye lütfen - morkedipatisi

Guys, please read the title and the first comment. This is not a request for invites. This is for users who already have an account and want to share their account name. For invites see this thread: http://ff.im/91M9R - Kol Tregaskes

My Wave ID is erier2003@googlewave.com. Feel free to add me and we can Wave! - Eric Geller

skitcherboy@googlewave.com - Ahmed

don.bonaddio@googlewave.com - Don Bonaddio

kevinawhalen [at] googlewave [dot] com - Kevin Whalen

ismaileski@gmail.com - ismail eski

none of my 6 invitees received it .... 8 hrs & counting. Wats the avg time invites take to come thru..? - Roshan Ramachandran

Roshan, it seems completely random. - Kol Tregaskes

terry.donaghe - Internet's Tad

sscott@googlewave.com - Spencer

damondnollan@googlewave.com - Damond Nollan

farzaam.net@gmail.com - farzaam

Still don't really know what this is (Or Google Voice for that matter). This is like high school all over again. The cool kids are ignoring me! - James Ferguson

myturkey@gmail.com - Varol AKSOY

bjtitus@googlewave.com - Brandon Titus

i have no juice...consultfab@gmail.com - Bryan R. Adams

i'm with the google wave woudl be really cool, if i had people to wave at crowd. jviddy@googlewave.com - Jamie Vidamour

Everyone, read the title and first comment. This is NOT an invite thread! - Kol Tregaskes

my plan didn't work. still trolling for an invite at dzinrgeek@gmail.com - amarquart

Blimey. I must be going mad, is it not clear that this is NOT an invite thread. For invites see here: http://ff.im/91M9R - Kol Tregaskes

Not sure if anyone else woudl find it useful, i'm going to add a load of you as friends and create a wave just to try stuff out in. Feel free to remove yourself from the wave or use it as you feel. Also feel free to add anyone else you think might want to be in on it - Jamie Vidamour

Shockingly, I am robdiana@googlewave.com - Rob Diana

Gasp! :-) - Kol Tregaskes

I'm pavels.romanovskis@gmail or maybe pavels@googlewave.com please see which one works - Павел Романовский

ajbatac@googlewave.com ;) - AJ Batac

dahiicocuk@gmail.com thanks:) - dahiçocuk

bcl.lee@googlewave.com - Bryan Lee

jtyost2@googlewave.com - Justin Yost

thehenrydandrea@googlewave.com - TheHenry

m Q efeoge . com . tr - efeöge

joshbegin - Josh Begin

bluecockatoo@googlewave.com - Lindsay

keith.kleverideas for me. - Keith Bennett

abrudtkuhl@googlewave.com - andy brudtkuhl

I don't have one. - Chris, Taskerrific Guy

yipwang@gmail.com if anybody wants to add me, perhaps someone can 'wave' me into a circle on wave? :P - Wang Yip

nevski264a@googlewave.com - outofmyarse

i'm: shaynorulz@gmail.com - the Kol rocks! - shayne catrett

Thanks everyone. - Kol Tregaskes

destek [at] afyonblog [dot] com - mustafa03

ericloganvanman@googlewave.com Thx, Kol - Eric Logan

chrisofspades at googlewave.com - chrisofspades

I guess I'm kamilah.gill or kamilahgill. Where do I see it? - Kamilah Gill

Add me to your google wave contacts and send me a wave hello jmnewhart@googlewave.com - Jesse Newhart

Woo hoo! - Moved to Facebook from fftogo

Congratulations, Kol! :) If you come across anyone else with extra invites, let me know! :) jason (dot) a (dot) castillo at the gmail - JA Castillo

osmanungur@googlewave.com dont hesitate about add me.. - Osman Üngür

scobleizer@googlewave.com - Robert Scoble

monamail@googlewave.com :) - Mona Nomura

alexishope@googlewave.com - Alexis Hope

galtenbergs at same - Christopher Galtenberg

ksheppardson - Ken Sheppardson

faithx5@googlewave.com is me. :) - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

zholmquist@googlewave.com - Zach Holmquist

Added, thanks. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Kamilah, you are kamilah.gill. You can find this if you click on yourself in the Contacts sidebar. You address (like everyone) is shown there. - Kol Tregaskes

sewimsizbilgin@gmail.com - ''sewimsizbilgin''

emirhanizmir at gmail dot com thank you :) - Nutella Ferrero (emirhan)

melihguney [at] gmail dot com thanx a lot - Melih Güney

fatmazehra@gmail.com teşekkürler - FZ

I am still needing one! - Zachary TG

rmorrill@googlewave.com - Dan Morrill AKA Techwag

The invite thread is here: http://ff.im/91M9R. - Kol Tregaskes

vezquex@googlewave.com - Vezquex: God of FF

Ok got you all loaded in to google wave - nice list thanks Kol! r/d - Dan Morrill AKA Techwag

No worries. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

gdearing@googlewave.com - George Dearing

I'd like to be invited : natoorenet@gmail.com - MeŤi

Meti: http://ff.im/91M9R .. invites are not in this thread - Wang Yip

libyano@gmail.com plz - Saeed Ashour

Afcontact@gmail.com with my eternal recognition! - Arnaud Fischer from iPhone

lardissone@googlewave.com - Leandro Ardissone ⍨

stevencains@googlewave.com - Steven Cains

mikefruchter@googlewave.com - Mike Fruchter

ilker@live.no - irasare ® from iPhone

trappermark@googlewave.com - Mark Traphagen

jeffisageek@googlewave.com - (jeff)isageek

donothaveanaccount@googlewave.com :( - Mo Kargas

This thread is now live in an embedbed public wave in Google Wave. - Kol Tregaskes

Patrick@googlewave.com - Patrick

fatihkurtoglu@gmail.com - Mehmet Fatih Kurtoglu

aksenova.katerina@gmail.com - Prometa

Have someone placed invites in places like inviteshare.com? - TrafficBug

impressive. :) - Miguel Wickert- Pineiro

chicagorachelbaker@googlewave.com - Rachel Baker

Thanks everyone. - Kol Tregaskes

lukather77@googlewave.com - Lorenzo Strambi

flexdaddy[at]googlewave.com - Eric Price

google wave invitation zihnibabuz@gmail.com - Zihni Babuz

I am at empoprises at googlewave dot com. And no, I do not have any invites. - John E. Bredehoft

John, added you. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

krynsky...on there. - Mark Krynsky

johnacraft.com@googlewave.com - John Craft

Ehi, I need an invitation... Feel free to mail me at napolux@gmail.com ;) - Napolux from twhirl

empty1 - Matt Thompson

ninthart at googlewave dot com - Brad Brooks

Great!! Add me as well....haroldcabezas@googlewave.com Look forward to connecting there, I think Google Wave is great. - Harold Cabezas

guilhermegom@googlewave.com - guilherme

mine is here: http://mailhide.recaptcha.net/d... - onur özen

Thank you all. - Kol Tregaskes

I need Wave invite :) - Naceron

doubleletter@googlewave.com - Ahsan Ali aka. Slick

zoolcar9@googlewave.com - LouCypher

canuckmackem@googlewave.com - Simon Tracey

kevin.j.gamble@googlewave.com - Kevin Gamble

commenting from the embedded thread - Mr. Gunn

fuk and i am still @gmail.com !!!! - viki saigal

000.cacarr@googlewave.com Finally. - Christopher A Carr

sniffle - Karoli

Karoli: is that your google wave nick or are you sniffling? :) - Ahsan Ali aka. Slick

I'm sniffling because I don't have a google wave nick. Despite two invites, there is still nothing in my inbox. I am not in with the in crowd. :( - Karoli

Karoli -- It appears as if there's a batch of emails going out now. Keep checking. - Christopher A Carr

thanks, I will! - Karoli

hanten@googlewave.com - Ben Hanten

john.worthington.aac@googlewave.com - Johnny Worthington

I still don't have an invite :/ mattb4rd@gmail.com - Mattb4rd

finally got my wave! :-) qtbrowneyes☺googlewave - browneyes

YAY!!!! I'm wavin' at you! karoli.kuns@googlewave.com - Karoli

I am vimoh.writer - Vijayendra (V-Mo) Mohanty

<- Waves hello! :) I'm at holger.eilhard@googlewave.com - Holger Eilhard

hello holger, can you pls send me invite? fatihkurtoglu@gmail.com - Mehmet Fatih Kurtoglu

Invite came today! I'm jalada@googlewave.com. As part of the second/third 'Wave' of people getting invites looks like I don't get any to share out. - Jalada

M Fatih Kurtoglu: Sorry, I don't yet have any nominations to give out... - Holger Eilhard

I'm brominet at google, dot com. - Brome

http://scr.im/wfgw - Wins Fern

jvjannotti@googlewave.com - Jim Hearts FF

Hey, I'm in too ! :)) tagyboy@googlewave.com - fwed

Just got my invite this morning as well. FF embed seems to be working fine. I've tried the Wolfram Alpha robot but didn't get it to work yet. - François Dongier

Thanks, Kol. Nice list. - Wins Fern

librarysupporter@googlewave.com in my wave. :) - MLx

Glad to see more and more people getting in. What we're waiting for is proper group support (a few weeks hopefully) then let the games begin! :-D - Kol Tregaskes

Anyone have a spare google wave invite to send to me? email me at zaldor at gmail ! TY! - Les Zaldor

that is a test from the wave that has this thread embedded. - Nathalie, Dreamer of FF

Hey cool, Nathalie. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

how does one find that thread within wave? - Jim Hearts FF

Search for the term "friendfeed", you might have to put "with:public friendfeed" - Kol Tregaskes

Mine is OH WAIT I DON'T HAVE ONE >:( - Danny Minick

please send one! + strefrextor %& gmail /( com =? - Musa

If I had wave I would add you, but seeing as I don't, I won't :( - Simon Doyle from Nambu

woland783 - Alessandro

i'm francois.dongier in googlewave as in gmail - François Dongier

eclips115@googlewave.com - Lindsey is Fierce!

markwilson12@googlewave.com - Mark Wilson

seanloyless@googlewave.com - Haggis (Sean Loyless)

amyb1961@ - oh wait, that's right, I don't HAVE it yet! - Amy℠

avandos08@googlewave.com - Harold

jasonw22@googlewave.com - Jason Wehmhoener

tlhote@googlewave.com - Thierry Lhôte

jmortonscott - Jason

this is great! - Kenyth

Phew! I've just added y'all above [hope you don't mind :)] I'm adrianglave at googlewave dot com :) - 1x29

rowlikeagirl{at}googlewave. com. Whew, I just added all the contacts here. That wasn't too tedious! - rowlikeagirl

ronin.ben@googlewave.com - ronin

susan.beebe@googlewave.com :) - Susan Beebe

svartling@googlewave.com Please add me? :) - Svartling

I'll have some juice as well yannrs@googlewave.com - Yann Ropars

I see there are lots or new people on Wave. Keep em coming. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

orchid8@googlewave.com - Call me Bronco

jimminyfuller@googlewave.com - Jimminy

sedairenguozmen@googlewave.com - seda irengü özmen

adrianculici@googlewave.com - Adrian

quackofdawn@googlewave.com - Quackofdawn

Waving from GWave. - Wins Fern

brodiebeta@googlewave.com =) - Brodie Beta

pascal.sijen@googlewave.com - Pascal Sijen

ancyru8 [at] googlewave.com Finally got myself an account! - Andrew Trinh

krz9000 [@] googlewave.com - Chris Hofmann

Mine is mrfabbri@googlewave.com - Marco Fabbri

I am bhowmik[at]googlewave[dot]com. - Bhowmik Shah

laura.botts [at] googlewave.com - Laura Lou Who

sarper [at] googlewave.com - Sarper Sılaoğlu

al86shaw [at] googlewave.com - Giraffes Up In The AIr

ryan.hirsch [at] googlewave.com - Ryan

tosh54 [at] googlewave.com - Peter Hoffmann

laura.norvig@googlewave.com - Laura Norvig

Im not begging for one ,,,, - johnpiercy

I will as soon as I get one WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH! - Martha

banane@googlewave.com <-- writing this from wave. neat! - anna sauce

marco.nunez@googlewave - FINALLY! like i said on twitter - i feel like the kid who got a nintendo 1 christmas too late when everyone had already beaten super mario bros! - Marco(aureliusmaximus)

denise.straessler@googlewave - stupid me had no idea i wouldn't be able to select a different name ..... - denise

Thanks everyone! :-) - Kol Tregaskes

kendrak@googlewave.com - Kendra <3 Three Lions

rjccviii -at- gmail dawt com - Richard Lawler

mdfidler [at] googlewave [dot] com - Michael Fidler

Arnaud dot Fischer at gmail dot com if anybody is happy to share an invite with me... Thanks so much! - Arnaud Fischer from iPhone

mine is bansode@googlewave.com - Gaurav Bansode

I'm allanpartridge@googlewave.com ... feel free to add me too (boring talking to self) - Brandon

diegomorelli76@googlewave.com - diego morelli

m.furkantunali@googlewave.com - Furkan Tunalı

churchsg - Sally Church

subject.zero@googlewave.com - Danny F Santos

fredcy@googlewave.com - Fred Yankowski

Lots more, cool! :-) - Kol Tregaskes

tapiokulmala@googlewave.com - Tapio Kulmala

george.moga@googlewave.com - George Moga

activescott@googlewave.com - scott willeke

glemak (at) etc... - mike "glemak" dunn

bjmccormick [at] googlewave [dot] com - rotarychainsaw

genetwilliams on the wave - Gene Williams

asif328462@googlewave.com - Asif

quantum.yorkie@googlewave.com - Moved to Facebook

chacha102@googlewave.com - Tyler (Chacha)

I really don't feel like adding 200 people my my contacts... - Tyler (Chacha)

I only have three contacts so far, feel free to add me so I'm not so lonely =) jon.with.no.h.leibowitz - Jon

dzinrgeek@googlewave.com - amarquart

Well, there are quite a few people already! Mine is catalani.ryan [at googlewave dot com]. - Ryan - @magicofpi

s.velcam02@googlewave.com ;) - Sergio Vela Camacho

daryl.hunt@googlewave.com - Daryl Hunt on FF

nothing@googlewave.com. To everybody: Can some one offer me Wave? - Nitin Nanivadekar

I want it too omikheev@gmail.com - Kaspar Minosiants

i am eugenemah@googlewave.com - Imabug

startoestudio@googlewave.com - Martha

omgplzstfukthx@googlewave.com :-D - April Russo (app103)

richij@googlewave.com - Richi Jennings

niguel.valley@googlewave.com - Valley

Is there a compiled list of search strings for GoogleWave? It will be very helpful as the number of waves increase in inbox - Wins Fern

gladstone@googlewave.com - Gladstone

@Wins Fern: some of them are presented here: http://smarterware.org/3729... - George Moga

solymos.gellert@googlewave.com bernadett.csajbi@googlewave.com - SoGo

Well, I finally got to surf the Wave experience. Currently drowning. bubbleofneon@googlewave.com - Mark H

Cool, Mark! :-) - Kol Tregaskes

ciropellegrino at gmail.com :) - Ciro Pellegrino

i have no idea. lol. i think it's izacharytg@googlewave.com - Zachary TG

Yes, kevendones@googlewave.com :) - Keven

i'm suezanne at googlewave.com - SuezanneC Baskerville

logicalextremes@googlewave.com - LogEx

ersinkoc@googlewave.com - Ersin KOÇ

soner.gonul@googlewave.com - ★ Soner Gönül

yonderus@googlewave.com - Yusuf Önder Us

minmax2k [at] googlewave [dot] com - Mark "DerBingle" J

In case there is still someone with spare invitations: piotr.byzia at gmail.com - Piotr Byzia

walt i tried to add you but it says your address is invalid :( - mike "glemak" dunn

Finally made it on to Wave, add me and say hello - azs.gmu@googlewave.com - Aram Zucker-Scharff

ivanfilios@googlewave.com - Iván Abrego

Wow. Thanks Kol!!! Here's mine for all ya'll to add - walt.ruppar@googlewave.com - although I just added like 150 of the above. While also deleting my pity pleads for an invite... ;-) - Walt Ruppar

shedali@googlewave.com - Franz Sittampalam

Terror@googlewave.com Add me! - Yiğit

andyzweb@googlewave.com - Andrew Euell

emrephalanx@googlewave.com - Emre BAHADIR

gardnerscot@googlewave.com - Scot Gardner - Scot Gardner

micahbear78@googlewave.com - MicahBear78

aleahey@gwave.com - Andrew Leahey

Got mine...thank you Trish...Now what?...lol...wheslin@googlewave.com - Bill Heslin

rss.ems@googlewave.com - Rıza Selçuk Saydam

robertfreeze@googlewave.com - Robert Freeze

fatihkurtoglu@googlewave.com - Mehmet Fatih Kurtoglu

marybaumcreative@googlewave.com -- Thanks, Trish! - MaryB, BrandingBroadOfFF

nzbuu1 [at] googlewave [dot] com - James Myatt

dtp [dawt] jer [at] googlewave [dawt] com - Jeremy (cropmarks)

I'm mightyfib(at)googlewave(dot)com Please feel free to add me.. :o) - Jeannette Høvring

Thanks, George. The list is getting longer. Wow. - Wins Fern

dannyrowley@googlewave.com - Daniel Rowley

ajkohn2006@googlewave.com - AJ Kohn

oceangray.net@googlewave.com - Muhammet K. (oceangray)

voxefx@googlewave.com - Vox

pengwen.not.penguin@googlewave.com - Parvez Halim

bansode AT googlewave DOT com - Gaurav Bansode

Melissa

Jane Lynch Answers Our Five Unlikely Questions On Fights, Clones & More - Monkey See Blog : NPR - http://www.npr.org/blogs...

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"You probably know Jane Lynch, who plays the brilliantly evil cheerleading coach Sue Sylvester on the so-happy-it-hurts Fox show Glee. She's also appeared in many (many, many) other projects: Best In Show, The 40-Year-Old Virgin, Julie & Julia, A Mighty Wind ... we could go on and on. We really could." - Melissa from Bookmarklet

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I think that picture is from Flirting with Disaster, which is a hillarious movie - RAPatton

I'm a big fan of Jane Lynch - Melissa

I think she's one of the funniest women in comedy. - Admiral Anika

I really like her - even in movies I'm not a big fan of, she usually makes it worthwhile. - Jennifer Dittrich

Aw, the article made me sad again that (AIUI) Fox isn't letting Lynch shoot Party Down during the Glee hiatus. - Andrew C

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NSFW: The Cloud Computing Consultant - http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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The Sexplorer aka The Girl From Starship Venus (1975) http://iyikotufilm.com/the-sex... http://www.youtube.com/watch...

The Sexplorer aka The Girl From Starship Venus (1975) http://iyikotufilm.com/the-sexplorer-aka-the-girl-from-starship-venus-1975/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S56MmRRMbUA

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Amy

Oooooh!! Notice on Amazon saying the UK Kindle is coming soon but we can order it from the US site for now

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Robert Scoble

It seems that only six people are reading FriendFeed right now and we are all bored. Gotta go check Twitter instead.

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Maybe not even six! :-) - Robert Scoble from iPhone

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I am sure I wasn't counted - Rami Taibah

Did you count me? - Mike Doeff

I was thinking the same thing! - Jannifer @wordsforliving

Whew. I was starting to think the Internet was closed or something! - Robert Scoble from iPhone

Well, it is Sunday night. And summertime. Web traffic has been down almost everywhere. - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins

So far only six have checked in! - Robert Scoble from iPhone

Now wake up :-) In Italy it's 8,45 a.m. :-) - wolly

I've been poking around...but I'm mostly in lurker mode on sunday evenings. - Jon, the Chilled Beartato

I wish I was in Italy! - Robert Scoble from iPhone

I agree. There is really nothing interesting right now. - TheHenry

always more lurking than talking :) - bear (aka Mike Taylor)

I've been pretty quiet on FF lately but still listening. This was definitely a slow weekend, at least in my stream. - Mike Doeff

*shouts* I'M HERE - Jordan Brock

Maybe only the true geeks and/or addicts are here - Jannifer @wordsforliving

Yeah really slow. I hope Google brings us something cool in the morning. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

it's a slow night... happens from time to time - Bastard Operator From FF

I am still searching the web for something interesting to post. So far nothing......... - TheHenry

coming up to 5pm Monday here in Brisbane, Australia. I'm about to head home having done my day's work. Checking in on FF makes the last quarter hour more bearable :) - Matt Hooper

how do we check in?? - Jannifer @wordsforliving

I comment on this, but I'm really not here. - CW™

live from Buddyfeed - Francisco Espinoza from BuddyFeed

Jannifer: no need to, I am off to bed (translation: my iPhone battery is almost dead). - Robert Scoble from iPhone

I just woke up after an unsuccessful attempt to sleep. - Carlton Hackett

Checking in... and going to bed. - Rob Haas from iPhone

Ok - if Robert's iPhone battery dies, we could start up a wild party here & see if he closes comments when he wakes up... - Jannifer @wordsforliving

I was playing around with Google Reader - Ahsan Ali aka. Slick

Or maybe there are thousands reading other feeds. - Louis Gray

I vote for that idea Jann! - Carlton Hackett

I'm the 7th - Elenucci

Just a quick check for me.....nothing happening...off to my book! - Bonnie Foster

Any luck there? - WorldofHiglet

When I wake up I want to teleport to Australia so I can miss Monday. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

or drink. - Anthony Citrano

lol Robert. I often find myself wishing I was back in your timezone when it's Monday here because I could re-live Sunday again :) - Matt Hooper

:p - chaz2b

How come you get a teleport, Robert? Is there an embargo on it? - WorldofHiglet

WorldofHiglet: you really don't want to be on the beta of that! ;-) - Robert Scoble from iPhone

Robert, you can sleep on my couch if you want - Johnny Worthington

lets all remember the beta version of teleport in The Fly, shall we? - chaz2b

Sorry I'm late, was having breakfast. - Willem (@wim66) ☠

I just checked Twitter and here was the most interesting Tweet on the page - "OMG, so sorry guys, I was being sarcastic to the ones who replied to my crazy tweet. Nothing is the matter. Thanks for all the quick replies" (nothing happening over there other than crazy tweets!) - Jannifer @wordsforliving

It's been pretty quiet over there, too. Maybe this whole social media thing is dying out? LOL! - Kimber Scott

If social media is dead it's Robert's fault for going out in the sun. - WorldofHiglet

Kimber: Tell that to Chris Pirillo. He'll flip! I'm reading his blog and watching his live stream. - Amir from iPod

Yep. That's what did it. - Kimber Scott from email

Or, I mean Chris Pirillo of MSNBC fame. Really white teeth? Talk so fast he gets a little spit buildup at the corners of his mouth? That Chris Pirillo? - Kimber Scott from email

Kimber: Umm... The geek Chris from http://chris.pirillo.com - Amir from iPod

If you folks are waiting for exciting news, I can confirm Google will announce Gmail2 in the morning. The sequel to Gmail! - Mark

i am here but you all have gone i think :P - Özgür D. Cyric

its 5am for them I think - Mark

And of course most of these tech people have never done a real days work in their lives so they get up about 11am ;) - Mark

Having read your comment I felt compelled to make it 7 and support a new site. - Benjy Felsham

LOL was currenly wondering how to fit Freindfeed into the whole mix (other than just having it following me - aka stalking me - all over te net) but considering the 51 comments, maybe I should still consider using it for something. :) - Phillip Grady Jr

what's a friend feed? - Rhys Amos from iPod

I've read this. seems more then six? ;) - James Kuypers

Oh, sorry Amir. I was wondering why the geeks on FF were always talking about a political consultant with big teeth and sticky mouth corners. So, now I know it's not the same guy! I was thinking of Chris Cilliza... oops. - Kimber Scott from email

Post, Kimber added you as a friend on Goodreads. We need you to confirm that you are, in fact, friends with Kimber. To confirm this friend request, follow the below link: http://www.goodreads.com/friend... &utm_medium=email&utm_source=invite - Kimber (kimberscott.art@gmail.com) - پـرستووو from email

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Dropbox is coming to the iPhone for Free - http://www.thehenry.net/2009...

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YES! - Techno Todd

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NICE!!!!!!! - Mona Nomura

Excellent... - Jonathan Beckett

very nice! - ken domen

Anything new on this? - Techno Todd

yay! that's great news! - Dan van Moll from BuddyFeed

Mo Kargas

Kitten Mittens - http://mokargas.soup.io/post...

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Kitteh Abuse - Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah

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hahahaha - Geoff Schultz

can't stop watching.. - Tsali, The Native of FF

What shows that from? - Matt Ruiz

Matt: http://www.youtube.com/watch... - Mo Kargas

They could at least add anti-slid things under the mitts. really. - Nathalie, Dreamer of FF

that's awesome. I've seen kitteh abuse before, but never as funny as this. - Will Higgins™

oh Poor baby :) - Seyhan Çelik

Cats have a way of waiting a while and getting you back ..... :) - Charlie Anzman

it's even funnier when you put them on their head - sofarsoShawn

Is that from a past Always Sunny episode that I've forgotten? - Stephen Mack

awww poor thing - BeeLing

I'm laughing, but poor baby! - Bonnie Foster

gahhahahahaha...that's funny - Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ

not funny... poor cat.. - Krishnamoorthy

that is too funny... but that is also looks to be a Russian Blue.... That cat WILL get it's revenge. - The Catz Meow

That seems like the type of cat that would puke in your shoe in the middle of the night while you are sleeping. - April Russo (app103)

"en fait c'est pas mal ton friendtruc" (ma femme :-) - Nicolas Voisin

pooh kiteh - Dobromir Hadzhiev

Les chats, j'adore ça ! - Alexandre

lol - Müjdat Korkmaz

ağzımızla gülersek :) - Aykut Önen

Genius!!! - Smeerch

hiç komik değil :( - Alev

this show is genius (always sunny in philidelphia) - chaz2b

I think this is a preview from the new season starting in September. I cannot wait, been a fan of the show since episode 1. Hundred Dollar Baby is probably my favorite episode. (Where Dee and Charlie get hooked on steroids) - Haggis (Sean Loyless)

What Rahsheen said...............Not cute or funny. That looks a bit distressing for the cat. Not cool to make any animal perform. Comedy like this is fine as long as it naturally occurs, when animals appear to do humorous things but this.......no. - Kevin J Hatton

man that's brilliant. - Zee.

Funny as heck but I feel for the poor cat! - Paul OFlaherty

I'm sure there will me a face+claw to the owner later lol - Tsali, The Native of FF from IM

I think ppl can make childish jokes to their pet, lover, roommates or parents etc. but when u film and share that act to make other ppl laught, it becomes a little mean.it can even be said an "abuse". - elodeon

Poor cat - `aziz´ Alihan ÇETİN

I can't wait for 'Kitteh Gets Revenge!' something tells me they won't upload *that*. - jbrotherlove

Hilarious! Cats take themselves so seriously. - Peter Kelley

Jeez, what's the foul? the cat is only wearing little mittens. some of you are so...soft. It's not like the guy is bashing the cat's head open. - tony

Ceiling Kat is not gonna like this. - Steven Perez

Play Cat off, Keyboard Cat - Shawn aka ringking

Is it just me or does the guy in this look like Chris Hardwick? - Bryan Lee

yazıııık - Tamkarışık

hic komik degil. - Erkin

kavrama sorunu yaşıyor kedi doğasına aykırı tabi! - jansery

:D erkin usta vallahi komik bee - Sinan İŞLER

coño es verdad - dondepresor

geez, have a laugh... - Yann Ropars

Leo Laporte

Leo is wondering why Chinese officials block Facebook but allow My Space?

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Rupert Murdoch! - Kate Foy

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A beginning is still a beginning .. but yeah Mr. Murdoch probably had something to do with it. - John Blanton

Rupert can scare even hard-ass, old Chinese officials. - Christopher A Carr

@Christopher Carr ..now that's scary. - John Blanton

Rather, it's Rupert Murdoch's wife. - shruti

simple...Myspace executives know where the better KTV's are. - jack

What's a KTV? - Jeff

Leo - great question!! - Susan Beebe

A KTV is a karaoke lounge where patrons get private rooms that come with hostesses. A LOT of business in China gets done inside KTVs ;). - jack

I was travelling in the Middle East recently and all sorts of sites were blocked but it was inconsistent. Tiny URL was blocked but bit.ly was not. Left me scratching my head .... - Jeff

Proof that communists are pervs. - Mark Davidson from BuddyFeed

in this case i'm not sure if you are referring to communists as the chinese or myspace officials. rofl. - jack

It can't be Murdoch. The Chinese government limits what STAR TV broadcasts to mainland China by threatening to block access if they don't like the programming. - Garmon Estes

Maybe its because people are too busy changing thier layout every few minutes to be subversive. ;-) - Tom Silk from twhirl

Do you know there's a site even more stinky than myspace.com,it's myspace.cn(MySpace China),in 2007,all myspace Chinese users were almost forced to move their accounts from MySpace.com to MySpace China,cos "Myspace.cn fully complies with all the government rules and regulations surrounding the internet in China" - ThenWang

Money, money, money, money......MOOOOOOONEY - Tom Barton

Probably because of some kind of data mining agreement like the big search providers had to make. Perhaps Facebook won't give in. - David Chartier from iPhone

No one uses MySpace and China knows it :o) - Tony

maybe something to do with the music industry? - Peter Pham

Because there are zero Intellectuals on MySpace. - Chris Abraham

Perhaps because Facebook still matters? Ouch! - Andy

perhaps because they are busy with camouflage of Uygur Turks' genocide? there are tons of videos and protests on facebook, which will have a strong viral power. - Göze Sencer

"Chinese government is accused of committing genocide and cultural-economical discrimination against Uygur Turks. Note: some photos are not suitable because of the bloody scenes they have recorded." http://azerblog.com/depo... - Göze Sencer

i don't know, may be its not one of the main reasons, and other reasons can have more priority.. but i just questioned this option in this period also. - Göze Sencer

Both sites are in Chinese (http://zh-cn.facebook.com/ and http://www.myspace.cn/), not sure why only Facebook was blocked at that time. Interesting observation. http://tinyurl.com/nw59lv - mahjongmi

Yes, i dont know which media are more powerful in getting viral impact, as i said. But its true that, even yesterday 196 uygur turks were executed by shooting and 1500 were arrested, 600 of them can not be reached. source: http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/dunya... , and it is also painfull to see that world is silent and reactionless. - Göze Sencer

Because MySpace is a fate worse than hell. - CannonGod

I think Goze puts an interesting aspect, whether it's a technical desicion to cencor facebook instead of myspace, still Uyghurs' blood spreading around Chinese streets. I am wondering how come human rights organizations are so silent about the "genocide" against Uyghurs. Free Tibet activists ought to be the supporter of Free Eastern Turkistan Movement - volkan ekiz from iPhone

Chris Abraham wins the thread. - Mark Davidson from BuddyFeed

very simple...in china, NO ONE CARES or uses myspace.... - Weird Shanghai

Yay, w00t, I win! Thanks, Mark. - Chris Abraham from Android

What? Really? Maybe because they know MySpace has no active users, or people with creativity. Sorry. But Facebook and Twitter are way better. - Zachary TG

Leo - do they know any better? - Rob Cairns

stupidity? - Bradley Farless

I think it cannot be so easy and simple. Please dont think it as a simple action. Thats not important what citizenship we belong, In 2009 how can somebody make a genocide? And how can we be unresponsive? Dont pass over Goze's opinions! Its not a funny situation for somebody - Omer Ekinci

Chinese government just executed 164 Uyghurs few days ago. - volkan ekiz

Chinese government has blocked friendfeed... - kang

Facebook is more popular with active generation. MY Space users are usually younger and less dangerous to a closed society. - Stephan Romeo

I guess because maybe even the Chinese know that Myspace is no longer relevant. - James Hague

sounds much like Obama to me.... czars , czars and more czars... - John Hillestad

It would confuse the Chinese gov't to have to monitor their people on another site... in other words, MySpace is "owned" by the state and doesn't want to duplicate their spying efforts. P.S. - I wish FF would add a Comment button at the bottom of the comments so we didn't have to scrrrrolll all the way back up. - Gus

Zee. to Zee.'s feed, TheNextWeb Forum, The Bloggers Discussions

I'm looking for great tech/socialmedia/web blogs that most people have never heard of...the only condition is that they post once a month at least (and that they're interesting of course...) .... and it can be yours.

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along the lines of Louis Gray's under the radar series http://www.louisgray.com/live... - Zee.

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Zee, do you know http://www.gravity7.com/blog...? Not sure how well know Adrian's blog is. I particularly enjoy the Social Interaction Design posts - Matt Hooper

no i don't, thanks Matt - Zee.

Wink WInk. Nudge Nudge. :) - But seriously, I have stumbled across a few by randomly clicking stuff here in FF, so hopefully those people see this thread. - Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah

long, analytic articles: http://blog.agoeldi.com/ (english blog from a swiss entrepreneur living now in Boston. Disclosure: He's also one of the authors of the german techblog I'm the editor of.) - Marcel Weiß

Here are a few that I enjoy -- under the radar? I'm not sure: http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/, http://digitalroam.typepad.com/digital..., http://www.hinutech.com (mine...definitely under the radar). - Josh Asbury

keep em coming folks! - Zee.

http://www.scumbagmillionaire.com? Not strictly tech, but... - drbeanbagmd

"Great" is a stretch for certain but I am trying here... http://buildcontext.com/blog - Ben Hedrington

I'd love some more exposure for Shared Creation - http://www.sharedcreation.com. Its starting to turn into a useful resource so any shout out to help it along would be great - Robert Davies

Copy cat. :) - Louis Gray

@Louis, Zee said 'along the lines', not exactly the same! LOL - Jorge Escobar

Mine's is not a tech blog, but I would love to have your comment on my latest post on social-media http://adkaal.blogspot.com/ - अभिषेक(Abhishek) Das

I'm not great, but I am technical -- http://theprogrammersparadox.blogspot.com/ - Paul W. Homer

My favorite NUI blog -- http://theclevermonkey.blogspot.com/ - Paul W. Homer

Mine of course! :) http://www.dailypatricia.com -- i wouldn't say it's a social media blog, but i write alot about the internet platform and business around it. - Patricia

Snap. http://garin.me - Garin Kilpatrick

@Louis, dont worry - i promise i'm not stating a series of posts...just want more blogs faster than your 5 a month! :P - Zee.

Great idea Zee. Always good to highlight great writing. :) - Sheryl

English only? Else, http://www.ovelho.com/ and http://meiobit.com/ - Marcos

www.futurity.org showcases original research from universities regarding tech, the web, society, etc. It's actually run by the universities themselves - LANjackal

One side benefit is that I might subscribe to any here I haven't seen before, which makes them candidates for next months' lists. - Louis Gray

http://oldmedianewtricks.com (it's mine) and http://thelostjacket.com - Daniel B. Honigman

well http://minZuD.com may qualify as a Tech blog. Its a tumblr tumblelog I maintain. Has a lot of your stuff in it Zee. It's easy on the eye and is something I am proud to maintain. - ZuDfunck

Web/tech/social media - check.... Nobody has heard of - check... Once a month - check.... Interesting - I'll let you be the judge. http://www.jimyiapanis.com - Jim

I'm working on a podcast & blog called Moms Gone Geek. We'd love to see what you think of it :) http://www.momsgonegeek.net Thanks!! - TheMacMommy

You can visit mine at http://softwarecritics.info and tell me what you think.Thanks! - Mathdelane

http://www.politechan.com/ is one I started to focus on the politics of technology and government tech efforts. - Andrew Leyden

http://www.socialfeds.com | Blog with a gov2.0 "roundup" front page, topic is social media/new media in the government. - Sara

http://www.communityorganizer20.com/ - this focuses on social media/web uses by nonprofits. Some of it is very basic, but there isn't any other blog like this that's not just basically self-promotion for some consultant. - Amy℠

Since you asked, my blog focuses on collaboration practice and technology, including social software. http://lehawes.wordpress.com - Larry Hawes

Hi Zee- one of the ones that I enjoy is Paul Bradshaw's Online Journalism Blog at http://onlinejournalismblog.com. He focuses on worldwide online journalism but integrates tech, tech analysis and the analysis of the ever-changing state of the web. - submitted by Debra Askanase - Debra Askanase

since you asked my own www.the-techshop.com - Rob Cairns

Everyone has heard of this one, by Valeria Maltoni, but I HAVE JUST GOT TO SHAMELESSLY PROMOTE this blog: Conversation Agent!!! I love that blog!!! http://www.conversationagent.com/ - J. D. Ebberly

I am gonna plug myself: http://yagglo.org I teach people the Internet - Shawn Hickman

Well, unless you're a rabid fan of Lifestreaming chances are you've never head of mine :) http://lifestreamblog.com - Mark Krynsky

Mind Streams of Information Security Knowledge http://ddanchev.blogspot.com/ - Polly Potter

I write http://www.bagofspanners.com - I'm a software developer / web designer - it's filled with stuff I have discovered, found interesting, or want to remember :) - Jonathan Beckett

Dutch 'Ambtenaar 2.0' ('Civil Servant 2.0') aka gov20 http://www.ambtenaar20.nl - and the translation by Google Translate: http://translate.google.com/transla... - Jeroen De Miranda

awesome stuff, keep em coming! - Zee.

I focus more on the less-than-tech audience, but there may be some content you'll like http://www.dennisoneil.com - Dennis O'Neil

I recently launched Social Photo Talk, focusing on the intersection of social media with the photography industry (specifically aimed at photographers): http://www.socialphototalk.com - Aaron B. Hockley

Dave Winer

What a 140-char message looks like in RSS - http://www.scripting.com/stories...

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One thing. Twitter's value isn't just in the messages, it is in the following/follower graphs. And all the metadata that sits outside the message. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

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But I like where this is going. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

Very clever. So would the 140-char message itself BE the link? So the mp3 would be accessed by clicking the message rather than a seperate URL taking up some of the 140 chars? - Mark

You've seen the Google Social Graph API though yeah? With XFN and FOAF it's easy to declare and determine relationships in a decentralized way. Right now it only works for public relationships though. - Brett Slatkin from email

Scoble, and the follower/following graph is the hard part - messaging + the format is nothing without a transport / platform that knows where to push those messages. And when like twitter you have users with 1+ million followers - that is a massive technical challenge that nobody has solved in a distributed fashion - Nick Halstead

People with 1-million-plus followers are going to have a hefty Amazon EC2 bill. As they should. (Or they can use Twitter, if they can find a way to pay for everyone who uses it.) - Dave Winer

that will go down well :) - Mark

Scoble the follower graph would be OPML as it always has been. - Dave Winer

Why is there a GIF screenshot of text on this page? - Andy Bakun

I was thinking "What can I do that would really piss off Andy Bakun?" and this is what I came up with. Just curious -- did it work? :-) - Dave Winer

Good way to show code - Mark

Is anyone going to build a tool that I can export who I follow on Twitter as OPML? - Christian Burns from iPhone

Christian - Ironically enough, I did something similar the other day for a diff reason. Completely random, über-beta, but - http://twitteravatar.appspot.com/apps... - Damon Cortesi

Why do you want an OPML for Twitter? Where do you want to import it? - Dave Winer

I think OPML could be good for importing Twitter to Snackr (The latest test version can be synced with Google Reader using OPML) I like using it for the casual glance @ the ticker tape while I work. It's not as immediate (feed refresh is slow) but it would cut down the time suckage if I still wanted to keep a slightly less frenzied eye on twitter. - BairdWilliamson

Really?! A spammer on FF? - Paul Puri

what spammer? ;-) - Chris Heath

Ooooooh.... Maaaagic! - Paul Puri

The first thing I noticed was how the surrounding XML seemed larger than the message itself. :) - Ray Cromwell

I wrote a quick and dirty OPML exporter for Twitter. I'll put a little polish on it in the morning and put it up as a web app. - Dave Winer

I may/must have missed something vital, but there's one thing I don't get. Since the ensuing Twitter-length RSS-item, message + envelope, is well above 140 characters, and thus can not be displayed as-is as an SMS (which, among other things, once was one of Twitter's killer features), why continue with that artificial limit at all? It's not as if the Cloud, be it RssCloud.org's or other, will not support messages where the <description> part is more than that. So what's the justification here? - ianf ⌘

Awesome TYVM Dave! - BairdWilliamson

SMS support for twitter is going to be a dead issue soon enough, glad to see people thinking about metadata and enclosures. I wish all url shortening services would go away, terrible idea which unfortunately got popular despite all the downsides. - Dave Evans

I barely use Twitter, but I always felt that the very audacity of building a SMS-length global instant messaging service was sheer genius. I understand the cellphone push never worked (or not for long) outside USA/ Canada and perhaps the UK. But the possibility of using SMS for input has a lot of merit whether Twitter streams are then delivered to cell phones, or not. - ianf ⌘

I'd like to see Twitter foaf'd out. - barce from iPhone

@Dave Evans. what makes you say that ("SMS support for twitter is going to be a dead issue soon enough")? In contrast to that, here's what one "VC from NYC" has to say about it: "I believe that Twitter's native implementation of sms is an important part of its success. The 140 character limit was driven by the 160 character limit of sms and the initial design of the service put sms... more... - ianf ⌘

Robert Scoble

FriendFeed on a Saturday afternoon isn't the same without @stevegillmor's gang.

July 18 from iPhone - Comment - Like - Share

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Do your own on TinyChat - Chris Saad

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Really? - Jim Connolly

Scoble Gang - Mark

You really should go back to doing it audio only, easier and better. - Mason Lee

Yeah - what about a 'Scoble's gang?' You know everyone worth talking to. - Jim Connolly

But yeah, I agree-- I miss that podcast, especially when it went somewhat deeper into things like "track" and the future of communications - Mason Lee

Scoble's Gang reporting sir! - Özgür D. Cyric

I'll get the Scoble Snacks! (Sorry, someone had to.) - Darren Landrum

Darren: Loved that! :-) - Jim Connolly

Heh. Thanks everyone! Gives me something to think about. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

I'll help you folks out. Steve: "If we can just get track back, then the gesture economy will finally take hold" Arrington: "Mufflers again, let's talk sports cars." Doc: "Is VRM a muffler or sports car?" Jason: "This show was sponsored by Building 43." Scoble: "Heehee." - Matt Terenzio

Matt: add some drama and that is pretty close. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

Wow. Only a little? Can't wait for Scoble Gang - Steve Gillmor

Steve: I can't wait either but I already have Scoble Gang. It is called FriendFeed. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

I thought we were a mob... now i'm confused - Chris Heath

HAHAhahahaha yea! =] It's called FF! - Özgür D. Cyric

C'mon Robert. The yearning mob awaits - Steve Gillmor

Chris: gang, mob, what's the difference? - Robert Scoble from iPhone

but steve, the mob awaits you too! - Chris Heath

semantics - Chris Heath

and spelling - Chris Heath

the mob can [redacted] itself - Steve Gillmor

that's funny steve, cuz i just [redacted] myself moments ago... and plan to [redact] later tonight as well :-P - Chris Heath

may cause blindness - Steve Gillmor

Do not taunt Happy Fun Mob - Jay Cuthrell

FriendFeed is a gateway drug to Gillmor Gang. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

"can't we all just get along?" - Chris Heath

I've listened to several back episodes of Gillmor Gang over the last few days. They were surprisingly good. Steve comes across as cranky, yes, but underneath he is usually making valid points. - Laura Norvig

I miss Gilmore Gang :( - Robert Burgin

I agree Laura, and I also miss the GG - Chris Heath

How far back did you go Laura? - Chris Heath

Agree with Laura, I miss the gang, steve tells it like he sees it and doesn't just jump onto the newest thing just because its new .. Bring back the Gang ! - Aaron Dyer

Best part of GG were the inevitable meltdowns every few weeks - Mark

Give the order Scoble Sir! I'll have their... well... keyboards!! :P - Özgür D. Cyric

Sometimes meltdowns need to happen to re-focus us all, strong and differing opinions are a GOOD thing - Aaron Dyer

GG reminded me of an open mic night where everyone ends up playing 12-bar blues.... but sometimes you get a jazz guy in there that mixes things up a bit. - Jay Cuthrell

Chris, I listened to 3 episodes from March. I'm just going through all the ones that happen to be on my iPod that I never had a chance to listen to. - Laura Norvig

Scoble -- Do it. The Scoble Mob. - Dave Winer

"The Scoble Mob(ile)" would make a neat logo and imply the disjointed and anywhere anytime nature of the "mob" - Jay Cuthrell

The Gillmor Gang was the best show on the internet in my opinion. I miss it tremendously. Scoble Gang wouldn't be the same even though he still could make a good show. You need Steve at the helm to set the tone. - Wo

so wheres the link to "The Scoble Mob"? Who's going to be on today? - BryanSchuetz

I'm sure Leo would let you put it on the TWIT Robert - BryanSchuetz

Yeah I agree GG was great, and I miss it alot. Scoble is great and was great addition to the gang. But not many can do what Steve did so well. Cut into the bone of the conversation with just one "cranky" rant. I'm pretty sure I would subscribe to a scobleshow also though. I wasn't fond of the change over to Twit, it kinda changed the dynamics of the show. Nothing bad about Leo, the show just wasn't the same with him co holding the reins. - Rasmus Lauridsen

I for one, would love to see Leo [redacted] arrington in the mouth with his mighty "mob", over and over again - Michael Thomas

Indeed, bring back The Gang... - Richard Eckel

In a few days I think Arrington is going to announce he worked with twitter and the police to track the hacker down. - Mark

Steve's a sweet teddybear with strong opinions...just not a great fit on TWiT. I'm sure a new iteration will appear when the time is right. - Web Pixie

I guess nature does not abhor a vacuum. - Jim Posner

FriendFeed on a Sunday morning, very early, so early in fact my ass is still in bed and not listening to a podcast isn't the same without @stevegillmor's gang :P - Johnny Worthington

What does Gillmor do for a day job? I mean, he posts maybe 1 article a week, a couple of tweets. What does he *do* ? - Mark

He comes up with ideas for the schmuck with the puppets - Dave Winer

Hahaha - Mark

lol - Aaron Thorn

I wonder sometimes how Tech people make their living. I mean, your financial past Dave is known (you made some nice bucks back in the day), Leo Laporte has his network, Scoble has his paying gigs with rackspace, but the likes of Feldman and Gillmor and a bunch of others make me wonder what pays the bills! - Mark

Heck, Shel Isreal has a new book coming out! baby needs a new pair of shoes - Mark

Mark: Steve Gillmor's RealTIme Crunchup had 500 people at it. You don't think he figured out how to get paid for that? And why do you need to get paid to talk on the Internet? I did this before I got paid for it. I'm just very fortunate to have found a way to do it all the time. - Robert Scoble

anybody know how blocking works on friendfeed? Is it bidirectional or does it merely silence the idiots? - Steve Gillmor

Steve: if you block someone you no longer can see their stuff and they can no longer see your stuff. The rest of us are unaffected. - Robert Scoble

600, Robert. - Steve Gillmor

Actually, that's not completely true, because the folks you block can't see you anymore they can't comment on your stuff, so we'll notice that over time your items have fewer and fewer idiots commenting on them. That will increase your personal brand. On the other hand, if you block someone who has a lot of engagement (an idiot like me, for instance) then you'll see the artifacts of their interactions with other people. - Robert Scoble

... I do miss it as well. - Johnny Worthington from iPhone

I'm sure that if you did a Gillmor Gang, you would all say that Chrome OS is in fact Android 2.0 and it's going to kill Microsoft, Intel and Apple. - Charbax

Charbax: whenever a blogger says something kills something else that just means it's more interesting than something else. Nothing more. So, if that's true, you'd be right. - Robert Scoble

ok, but isn't new tech supposed to sometimes really cannibalize established tech. If Google OS powers $100 laptops with ARM processors all of a sudden, then who's going to buy Windows/OSX stuff anymore. And how can the old Silicon Valley giants then still make money. - Charbax

Charbax: it's pretty rare that new stuff actually "kills" old stuff and when it does it takes years to happen. Heck, the Web has been killing AOL now for about a decade and AOL still is around. I don't think Google Chrome will get me to stop buying OSX or Windows but it could change my behavior and that is interesting. - Robert Scoble

All major laptop OEMs showed 50 sub-$200 ARM netbook designs at Computex last month, I filmed them all http://techvideoblog.com/... (my Computex videos were on Engadget a dozen times in that week). I think Chrome OS is actually just Google optimizing the browser for all these new cheaper embedded Linux laptops. - Charbax

scoble's definition may work for him, but when I say something's dead, it has a specific meaning -- and it's not that is no longer interesting. RSS has always been and continues to be interesting. But it's still dead. - Steve Gillmor

Charbax: right. Hi Steve. Someday I'll get the Gillmor translation guide figured all out. - Robert Scoble

I miss the Gillmor Gang! The industry is very dull without it... - Michael Pinto

start with Saturday Night Live first 2 seasons - Steve Gillmor

Keep Arrington away and it'll be fine. He killed The Gillmor Gang. Office is dead. Now The Gillmor Gang is dead. "Well now everything dies baby that's a fact But maybe everything that dies someday comes back" haha I make myself laugh, that's what's really important here. - Diego Barros 

Diego: I figure Gillmor Gang will come back right around the same time we stop talking about it. :-) - Robert Scoble

I disagree, Arrington's a tool and the perfect foil on Gillmor Gang. Renew it, intact. Saturdays on FF, TC & Twitter are a bore now... - Thom Kennon

Robert: I'm sure it will, and I think we are all sure it will come back. Just need the dust to settle. Maybe the Gang needs a new home away from TechCrunch (or it may stay there). But yes, it will be back, Steve can't stay away. Oh and BTW, I love Steve's work. That's why I'm here talking about it. - Diego Barros 

They will be back Just will take time - Aaron Thorn

Thom: You think he's the tool every show needs? - Diego Barros 

That's worth elaborating. Respectively, I hear the same broad sweeping, provocative statements that don't include anything in support of that statement as to why. I understand it's the only way to make a point effectively in a short window of time but I've heard too many people say "RSS is Dead" without much to support that claim/point of view. It's like someone trying to drive fashion. - Benjamin Taylor

The iphone represents less than 1% of the global mobile phone market, yet Apple amasses $20 Billion treasury, so I guess you are right. it'll probably take them at least a few years to burn up all that money unless they quickly fire most of their 85 thousand employees. - Charbax

Diego, yep. It keeps things interesting and makes the less toolish look (and act) more brill. - Thom Kennon

Is there any way to listen to the old shows? - Robert D'Alesio

@Robert: http://feeds2.feedburner.com/TheGill... - Ken Kennedy

I miss Gillmour gang - calacanis and winers new weekly shows are good but I'd pay to hear Steve and his crew again weekly - andrew from iPhone

RSS is Dead. RSS is live. RSS lives. - Matt Terenzio

It's alive. Alive! - Matt Terenzio

Like others have said, definitely miss it. My podcast lineup's not the same with iTunes showing my GG feed broken. - Micah Wittman

I second the motion to set up the Scoble Mob! - Adrian Scicluna

I agree - Robert Burgin

i want GillmorGang back in real-time - HansVanRock

l0ckergn0me

What is Community? http://www.youtube.com/watch... [Video from #WordPress / #WordCamp]

What is Community? http://bit.ly/z8ZKB [Video from #WordPress / #WordCamp]

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You should have titled this "What to do when your web designer quits to be a male stripper". - Mark Krynsky

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"A blog is just a tool and if you think a blog is a community, than you too are a tool". Hahah...classic. - Mark Krynsky

Oh, true. :) - l0ckergn0me

just great -- "I don't want to be involved with anything to do with viral and community." nicely done Chris. - michael sean wright

LOL... "I fingered people." I actually spat out my Sprite at that - Outsanity

Hey, I *DID* - and I'm probably the only one on FriendFeed who remembers Yanoff's Internet List. ;) - l0ckergn0me

Leo Laporte

Celebrating Cronkite while ignoring what he did - Glenn Greenwald - Salon.com - http://www.salon.com/opinion...

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"Cronkite's best moment was when he did exactly that which the modern journalist today insists they must not ever do -- directly contradict claims from government and military officials and suggest that such claims should not be believed. These days, our leading media outlets won't even use words that are disapproved of by the Government. Despite that, media stars will spend ample time flamboyantly commemorating Cronkite's death as though he reflects well on what they do (though probably not nearly as much time as they spent dwelling on the death of Tim Russert, whose sycophantic servitude to Beltway power and "accommodating head waiter"-like, mindless stenography did indeed represent quite accurately what today's media stars actually do). In fact, within Cronkite's most important moments one finds the essence of journalism that today's modern media stars not only fail to exhibit, but explicitly disclaim as their responsibility." - Leo Laporte from Bookmarklet

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hmmm..leo ..."our leading media outlets won't even use words that are disapproved of by the Government."?? You obviously have not watched FoxNews lately..;) - glen moffitt

In Europe the news is pointing the fact that when Cronkite said America is losing the war in Vietnam, The then president Johnston said "We lost Cronkite, We lost Middle- America" then never ran for a second term. - Michael Mooney

Fox isn't news though. It's factless infotainment. That is, versus something like CNN that fact-based infotainment. - Admiral Anika

"CNN" is "fact-based?" Hummmm ... What world is THAT in? - Don Smith

In the world where Fox just makes up stuff. Clearly. - Admiral Anika

Rachel Maddow had Dan Rather on Friday. Dan commented on this topic. - Michael Hansel

"Fox just makes up stuff?" -- Examples please? - Don Smith

Reporters are really only obliged to report the facts as truthfully as possible. It is for listeners, viewers and readers to draw their own conclusions. Reporting is not the same as punditry which is what people, certainly Greenwald, seems to be confusing reporting with. If the government (or others) present information to a reporter then it is the government that lies not the reporter.... more... - tom murphy

The so called "News channels" haven't been responsible for delivering news in several decades now. When the first journalist asked the question "So how do you FEEL about..." it stopped being news and became entertainment. It isn't even informative. I don't care which channel you are watching/listening to. - Steve Martin

This quote from the article hit the nail on the head (but it now applies to news outlets on both sides of the Atlantic): “There was a time in America when the press and the government were on opposite sides of the field,” [...] “The press was supposed to speak on behalf of the people. The new tradition is that the press speaks on behalf of the government.” - Andrew Terry

Journalism went off the rails when it stopped reporting and started advocating. - Norman Lorrain

Ton Zijp to Ton's feed, The Bloggers Discussions

What is a ‘blogger’? - Masters of Media, University of Amsterdam - http://mastersofmedia.hum.uva.nl/2009...

July 18 from Bookmarklet - Comment - Like - Share

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"The definition of a blogger is commonly given as “someone who maintains a blog”. Yet on many sites, including Wikipedia and Dictionary.com, ‘blogger’ does not have its own page, ‘blogger’ forwards to the page for ‘blog’. This week I made an attempt to define ‘blogger‘ on Wikipedia using references from Technorati’s State of the Blogosphere, a Pew Internet survey and an essay from danah boyd." - Ton Zijp from Bookmarklet

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Blogger already has it's own page over at urbandictionary.com — http://is.gd/1DxEv - Remo

Off course I think to have it's own lemma on Urbandictionary is very important, but being mentioned on Wikipedia makes oneself feel more alive. ;-) - Ton Zijp

Well I get that, Urban dictionary isn't meant to be serious of course. If carpenter has it's own wiki on Wikipedia so should blogger. —I'm trying to decrypt that QR-code in that pic you posted. No luck so far… - Remo

Matt;

@inspirationbit it is. Surprised no-one has created a Digg-like site based on tweets rather than Diggs.

July 19 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

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Interesting idea. Who knows what FriendFeed and Digg have on the drawing board though... - Jonathan Beckett

Zee. to Zee.'s feed, TheNextWeb Forum, Appetite, The Apple Room, iPhone

BuddyFeed – Native iPhone Friendfeed App – Gets a Major Update - http://justanotheriphoneblog.com/wordpre...

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can't get my lists or groups to appear on it for some reason... - Zee.

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Buddyfeed has been the best way to use FriendFeed for those like myself who can't stand the website UI. - Chris Rodgers from BuddyFeed

Zee - how many lists do you have? It shows mine OK, but I have hardly any ... - Patrick Jordan

lists 4, but groups/rooms - freakin' loads - Zee.

Hmmm - I've got 34 rooms and they show up just fine - you have a lot more than that? I haven't used Groups yet - so that's a difference. Hopefully Robin will see this thread soon and have some input ... - Patrick Jordan

Now I want an iPhone! - Michael Fidler

Zee, I am the developer of BuddyFeed. It seems you have a lot of subscriptions and the size of your profile data is 2M. It may take some time to get the information for the first time. You may need to try to keep buddyfeed open for a while to get your profile downloaded. If you still have problems, please let me know. - Robin Lu

BuddyFeed was decent, but a little underwhelming & buggy when I initially purchased it. But this update takes it prime-time... it's now far superior to using the web interface in Safari. I *do* wish it would allow landscape mode, but that's one of my only remaining complaints. - Roger Benningfield

I'll try that again: I'm finding BuddyFeed to be a more preferable way of looking at FF than the real-time web UI... - Brad Brooks from BuddyFeed

+1 on landscape mode, particularly when viewing actual web pages. Don't know why so few apps seem to support it. - Grey Drane

And yeah, I've noticed that some of my feeds are taking a while to load first time. On "Likes", for example, I had to tap "Load more" 3-4 times before anything showed up, but most others worked after just 1 or 2 taps. - Grey Drane

BuddyFeed is good, but I still find it confusing with Rooms, Groups and Lists.... - Baard @ Pixum

Is it too much to ask for a Blackberry version of BuddyFeed? Hello? *taps on monitor screen* - Ms_Krista

Something I haven't been able to discover is, does Buddyfeed support some kind of offline mode? That's one reason I use Nambu during my commute. It will download and cache, and I can still access Friendfeed content when I hit a data dead spot. - Andy Bold

no, it doesn't, Andy. In fact if you're typing something and click "post" and lose your connection (which happens unacceptably often here in coastal LA with ATT), you will also lose the post. - Anthony Citrano

I've looked at this before and wondered if it was worth $3. I'm very...uh...frugal. - Vaughn from iPod

it's a cool app; I like it and bought it and use it for several months now. it crashes occasionally and has the issue I mentioned above, but overall I think it's a really good app. - Anthony Citrano

one of my most used apps - George Dearing from BuddyFeed

So this was from May -- have there been any update since? Anything added? - Vince DeGeorge

It used to be buggy. Is it better ? - Jeff (the メガマクダジ of FF) from iPhone

I find it very solid now. - Patrick Jordan

Cool, but I am not paying 2.99 for it. - Zachary TG

Hard for me to tell why this is better than just using the web version. - Herb Hernandez

I've tried several FF iPhone apps and not been terribly impressed by any. I'll make this my last one (previous include Nambu & AlertThingy) - CannonGod

Meh. I still prefer the iPhone web version. - Adi from BuddyFeed

I downloaded this yesterday & really like it so far. Much better than the iPhone web version. - Vaughn from IM

agree. just got buddyfeed and am happy. still need to go back and forth with facebook though. updates quickly and is stable on 3g iPhone. - Carey Lumeng from BuddyFeed

Jeremiah Owyang

Is blogging coming back? http://redcouch.typepad.com/weblog... @shelisrael asks. I say yes --we need more signal the stream is noisy.

July 18 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

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A definite "yes". - Mark Davidson from BuddyFeed

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"Thought leaders" like Robert Scoble should blog. We value their opinions. A blog gives us something more tangible than a tweet - or a few paragraphs (at most) on FriendFeed. On the other hand, it could be that someone has only accidentally found himself to be regarded a thought leader, and doesn't want to be regarded like this anymore. Then it's wise to stop, or much decrease posting frequency. - Meryn Stol

Aside from that, I don't think there's anything wrong with going from being a thought leader to being a "thought curator" a filter of sorts. Robert seems to like that. This also fits well with his video interviews. - Meryn Stol

FriendFeed is all you need for your own blog when you are new to blogging, When you hit around 150 people that you fallow & they fallow you back with regular feedback on your posts plus other followers who give feedback but you don't fallow it may be time set-up a free blog on a service like WordPress.com. - Michael Mooney

It went away? - Kim Landwehr

Blogging never went away. Twitter increased the noise for a while. - Jonathan Beckett

Content producers have a desire to finely tune their signal - and content consumers want the ability to be highly selective in the content they "consume". Blogs now give folks the ability to create specific "content mixes" from various streams. - John: @johnhaydon

When did blogging ever go away? I hate this argument. - Jesse Stay from iPhone

Twitter elevated certain bloggers, and pushed the rest to write less, or write differently. Only "yesterday" bloggers wondered if blogging is dead... my opinion then & now is that only bad posts can kill blogging, Youtube didn't kill TV, TV didn't kill Books. Ask the readers, you may find that good blogging never went away or lost value, it needs no revival, that is all. - Majento

Robert Scoble

Wait a second the whole Amazon Kindle thing yesterday was ABOUT STOLEN property! That changes ALL the anti-Amazon arguments. More:

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Those books were stolen property. Amazon had every right to delete them. Police will come into your house and take your TV if it was stolen. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

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Amazon had no right to sell those books to you in the first place. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

If that's the case, I agree. And if you buy stolen goods, the cops don't refund your money. - Chris Baskind

Interesting to see who was anti-Arrington and anti-Amazon too. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

We sure knee-jerk online, don't we? - Chris Baskind

If you are anti-arrington you must be pro Amazon today. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

Chris: yeah. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

About a month ago, I put a 3 x 5 index card on the board behind my computer. It says WAIT. I think it has helped. ;-) - Chris Baskind

The stolen TV analogy only goes so far since it was Amazon that was selling the stolen merchandise in the first place. I wonder how this has affected Kindle sales. - Justin Doub

If a printing company illegally produced copies of your book, you could rightly expect the rights-holder to go after them and even demand that unsold copies be destroyed but they certainly wouldn't demand to burn all copies sold to customers. See my comments here: http://www.torgo.com/blog... - Daniel Appelquist

You guys need to go to law school. If you buy stolen property from a store, you are the rightful owner of the goods. The police won't bother you. - Ward Mundy

Ward: is that true? I always thought that receiving stolen goods would get them taken from you. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

That's not to say Amazon wouldn't be liable for damages to the legitimate copyright holder. Just not the buyer in the ordinary course of business. - Ward Mundy

I disagree. Amazon should have found a way to work it out with the publisher (i.e. write a check). You should NEVER do what Amazon did. Pull it from the store, don't sell any new copies, fine. Don't yank content from a consumer's device. Ever. - Brian Baggett

Amazon is still at fault here, by the way. For selling something it didn't have the legal right to sell. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

We can all agree on that. :-) - Ward Mundy

George Orwell is rolling over in his grave. http://nerdvittles.com - Ward Mundy

Brian: I agree, and it looks like Amazon agrees now too but those arguments have less teeth today. By the way did you argue for or against TechCrunch publishing the stolen Twitter documents? - Robert Scoble from iPhone

Amazon should have communicated to their customers before taking any action. Amazon = Fail - paul mooney

Ward: Orwell has lots of reasons to roll over in his grave. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

Paul: agreed. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

Paul: I completely agree. Their actions caused uproar that could have been avoided by sending a clear message before preforming the pull. - Joshua

Amen, Big Bro. - Ward Mundy

Seeing the Twitter docs pop up over at Techcrunch felt ... "dirty". Just because you can doesn't mean you should. - Brian Baggett

I was also under the impression that stolen goods are subject to seizure. But I've no interest in law school. ;-) - Chris Baskind

Brian: lots of journalism is done with stolen info. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

It depends upon where you purchased the stolen goods. - Ward Mundy

Ward: even from a second hand store? - Robert Scoble from iPhone

Absolutely Brian, starting to read that I felt as if I were a part of some sort of espionage... I stopped reading. I think I may be done with Arrington/TechCrunch... :( - Trae Ruge

The real root of the anti-Amazon, anti-whoever, sentiment is that we all know copyright is broken and that these books SHOULD be free. - tollie williams

If the store is in the business of selling the type of goods you buy, then you are a buyer in the ordinary course and are protected. - Ward Mundy

Yeah, I realize that. The difference is when it's something like Watergate or exposing massive corporate fraud, that's one thing ... when it's exposing the inner thoughts of a company that's yet to make a dime ... it just seems senseless. Know what I mean? - Brian Baggett

Not to be pedantic, but it's important...it's not stolen property. It's a work under copyright sold w/o a license. There's a difference. "STOLEN PROPERTY" (in caps, no less) means you don't have the property anymore. That isn't the case here. It's still wrong, no question, and Amazon is in the process of working through this. But it's different, and it's complicated. All caps doesn't help. - Ken Kennedy

Robert re:"lots of journalism is done with stolen info." http://kara.allthingsd.com/2009071... - Ian Paul

Robert: Amazon isn't the police; remember the analogy; if Books Inc sold me an illicit copy of 1984, they have no right to come into my house to get it back; they'd have to follow a legal process to do that. - Stuart Liroff

Wouldn't the police need a warrant to come into my house and get the stolen property. I mean they couldn't just break into and then leave. That's what makes Amazon's action so bad, they made no attempt to inform the consumer of what they were doing. After all the consumer didn't know the item was stolen and had no reasonable expectation it was stolen. - Kim Landwehr

Oops...I capped the whole thing "ABOUT STOLEN". Sorry. I'll not edit above, but consider this my oopsie acknowledgement. - Ken Kennedy

Ken Kennedy: Excellent point and that isn't pedantic at all. - Brian Baggett

Ward, if you buy my stolen t.v. I have every right to get it back. Your money is gone and you could face charges for receiving stolen property, depending on the circumstances. - Kimber Scott from BuddyFeed

Ian: Kara is wrong there. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

Ken: so if this isn't "stolen property" but content sold without out a license, doesn't that mean it was illegally obtained--at least by Amazon if not the end user? - Ian Paul

The end user asserted to Amazon that they had the rights to publish the work. - Ken Kennedy

I wonder if Amazon will ever start removing books from the kindle that you got from somewhere else, i.e. pirated content. - RobinDotNet

Robin: I doubt that. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

If somone took one of David Pogue's (the NYT writer that one of of the first to write about this), OCR'd it, put it up on Amazon via the Kindle's small authors publishing programs, and sold a couple thousand copies at $0.10 before Pogue figured out what was going on, what do you think he'd want to do? Leave them out there, or make Amazon take them back?? (I'm willing to bet $20 right here on the latter). - Ken Kennedy

Robert: I don't want to go too far off topic here, but why don't you buy the argument that there's a difference between taking company documents in the name of the public good versus a hacker doing a cyber B 'n' E? Wasn't the whole Twitter affair basically a case of prurient (okay, prurient isn't the right word here, but you get my drift) interest for the reading public? - Ian Paul

@Robin. There's no technological way to make sure that you don't have the right to that work. I think Amazon would be crazy to even try. - Ken Kennedy

Scoble: I absolutely believe the content providers won't put pressure on Amazon & Apple eventually to do just that ... - Brian Baggett

Robert i think you're conflating things again, maybe just to be a gadfly or "start a conversation," but you're equating things that aren't equal. Amazon thought they had the right to sell the book -- they didn't not *knowingly and wilfully* violate copyright. morally speaking, that is not the same kind of "crime" as buying something you KNOW is stolen from a self-admitted thief. - Karim

I misspoke. I meant to say "I absolutely believe the content providers will put pressure on Amazon & Apple eventually to do just that" - Brian Baggett

Ian: My public interest is your purient interest. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

Amazon's already said: "“We are changing our systems so that in the future we will not remove books from customers’ devices in these circumstances". Props for that...probably. But what happens when someone scarfs the next "Harry Potter-alike", uploads it with a slightly different name a day before release, sells TENS of thousands of copies before they're caught (because I bet lots of... more... - Ken Kennedy

Amazon made a mistake that had no financial benefit for the receiver of the goods. Arrington received stuff he *knew* was stolen and used it for page views. HUGE moral difference. - Karim

So they only remove content that *they* allow you to put on there illegally? That's good, bec. if Amazon did that, think what Apple could do to people's iPods... - RobinDotNet

Robert: Amazon had the right to _lawfully_ request the 1984 copies to be returned. They didn't have the right to commit a felony by "breaking and entering" in order to retrieve the property: Definition: "Entering can involve either physical entry by a person or the insertion of an instrument with which to remove property. " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... - Stuart Liroff

Robert: maybe I don't see it the same because I am not a journalist, but I am a banker. If your information is stolen and sent to Tech Crunch et al. you would not want to see it posted I would imagine. Perhaps this isn't similar, but posting anything privat be it account balances, personal info, loan committee minutes, business dealings etc. they are all private information... - Trae Ruge

KenKennedy -- they could compare title against copyright availability. - RobinDotNet

I'm still dismayed about the reports that some books can only be downloaded a specific number of times, and that's not documented. Anybody had any problems downloading books repeatedly? (I have 2 kindles, and use iPhone kindle app too). - RobinDotNet

Robert: I think we'd need a new thread to keep this discussion going. I just can't believe that the Twitter info was in the public interest. - Ian Paul

Robin: Why would you want to download books repeatedly anyway? - Ian Paul

@Stuart: C'mon. This wasn't a masked Amazon employee in your bedroom. It's a wireless device that you authorize (and in fact expect them) to move stuff around on. You agree to a lengthy terms at purchase. Amazon can't agree to give you rights to a permanent copy of something that they don't have the rights to give you period. - Ken Kennedy

IanPaul: I might want to download it to multiple kindles. But sometimes I download a book, read it, and remove it, so my list isn't so cluttered, since they don't let you folder them. - RobinDotNet

Robin's comment brings up a good point: http://medialoper.com/hot-top... - Brian Baggett

Isn't it ironic that the books by Orwell were deleted. "He who controls the past, controls the future" is the party slogan of the govt. in 1984. Maybe Amazon thought they could go back and change history too. - Robert

BrianBaggett -- I agree, they should disclose it. I feel like I need to back up the files from my kindle to my PC just in case. Because you CAN copy them off, then copy them back on there, yourself. - RobinDotNet

Oh, the Orwell irony I think is "great" (note the quotes). It's part of what gave this story legs, IMO. - Ken Kennedy

Ken: If the perception is you're buying something from Amazon rather than renting it, then it is unreasonable. Obviously, they just made clear to anyone who wasn't sure that you own nothing on the device; you're just renting. - Brian Baggett

Robin: I see. Can the Kindle sync with your computer or a memory card and you can put them on your hard drive instead? I don't have a Kindle, just interested to hear how it works . - Ian Paul

@Brian @Robert I wholeheartedly agree...back up your files. It's trivial. - Ken Kennedy

Robert -- It would have been ironic if it happened with Fahrenheit 451 !! - RobinDotNet

IanPaul -- you can connect it to your compute and see the files, and just copy them off to your PC or wherever. - RobinDotNet

From my attorney (just a quickie, simplistic answer): "Yes, stolen property is generally subject to seizure. The buyer would have recourse against the vendor." And Ken is right: It's the Orwell angle that gave this story da sexy. - Chris Baskind

They can reclaim stolen property, but they would tell you, they wouldn't just steal it back from you secretly. - RobinDotNet

@Brian The Ars Technica article is good on this: http://arstechnica.com/tech-po... Amazon does consider that you have a permanent license; it's no "rental". But...(and there's always a but in contracts), it can't give you a license to something it doesn't have rights to license! That's what happened. - Ken Kennedy

Whoever said stolen property can't be taken away is wrong. In California, receiving stolen property is punishable by the law and often includes jail time. Even if you didn't know it was stolen and paid for the item. It can and will be taken by the law and held as evidence until a hearing or trial. - Marc Flores

It's NOT stolen property. It's unlicensed property. And the short answer is Amazon should have bought a license for the number of copies they already had sold. - Ward Mundy

If you buy a book from a book store, you have an absolute right to keep the book whether it was originally stolen or not. - Ward Mundy

If you buy a stolen book from somebody on the street corner, you do not have a right to keep the book. - Ward Mundy

Ken, Amazon's License and Terms of Use clearly gives the purchaser the non-exclusive rights to keep a permanent copy of the digital content on your device; nowhere does it give Amazon the right to delete it. http://www.amazon.com/gp... - Stuart Liroff

Why worry about the stolen property statues of 50 states? This isn't a big-screen TV! @Ward, that's not a bad idea (short answer), except a) what if I don't WANT to license my work, for any price. You can't make me. b) after the fact, maybe I am willing to license to Amazon...for $100,000 a pop. - Ken Kennedy

@Stuart: I know, since I quoted that about 2 minutes ago. *grin* But they can't license stuff they don't have a license to license! - Ken Kennedy

"Copies of copyrighted works CANNOT BE REGARDED AS STOLEN PROPERTY for the purposes of a prosecution under a statute criminalizing the interstate transportation of such property." -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... - Karim

You might also search for Buyer in Ordinary Course under UCC which applies in most states. http://bit.ly/49QRid - Ward Mundy

So do those who bought 1984 have the legal standing to launch a class action suit against Amazon? A case that like that could have some serious implications for the future treatment of digital content. - Ian Paul

Depends if you can make a case that the users suffered damage, I would think. - Chris Baskind

I still don't see why Amazon deleted the books from the Kindle. Apple doesn't do the same thing for their apps. Kindle may be okay, but I'm sticking with Stanza on the iPhone for now. - darnell from BuddyFeed

So wait. I unknowingly buy a book from a store that doesn't know it's stolen. The store owner realizes it was stolen, comes to my house, breaks in and takes the book back? Since when does he have the right to do that? The police, probably. The store owner? Definitely not. - shandel from iPhone

What if you bought a car and the maker decided they didn't like how they designed the dashboard. Would it be ok for them to come take your car back that you already paid for? - Bradley Farless from iPhone

shandel, the police can't enter your home to retrieve stolen goods without 1) your permission, or 2) a search warrant issued by a court. So what Amazon did was purely breaking and entering, unless their TOS said they could do so. - Jeff P. Henderson

I think the point is that if it was a real book they couldn't do anything about it. In this case they can. This situation won't be the last since music and dvd's are also going digital - brendaries

You do not own the kindle downloads. Amazon licenses them to you. - russellcoleman

Yes, you own a license to the books. Where is it stated that Amazon has a right to yank your license? - Jeff P. Henderson

@Jeff: That's the point; you own a bogus license...what does that give you? Amazon didn't have a legitimate license. Orwell's estate pointed that out; they had no choice but to stop selling. I imagine Amazon's interpretation of the TOS is that you never had a legitimate license either. They appear to be changing that interpretation now, based on feedback. - Ken Kennedy

Ken, there is something called due process that should have been used in order to right the wrong. Amazon should not have 'broken in' and taken the books back. They should have used the proper legal procedures for doing so if that was their best resolution to the problem. - Jeff P. Henderson

Disagree Scoble. This is not about STOLEN property. This is about censorship and the rights of individuals. This is about TYRANNY pure and simple. - Richard

The Kindle is a nascent, emerging technology (sure e-book readers have been around for years, but like the iPod was to MP3 players, this is to e-books) and Amazon should do everything in their power to not leave a bad taste in consumer's mouths. Period. That 'kill switch' should be for viruses or malicious trojans or something that is really a problem. - Brian Baggett

In a case like this, the publisher should've worked behind the scenes with Amazon to license the books. If the publisher wouldn't budge, Amazon could've had the courtesy to email or post a notice on what the publisher was asking them to do. The widespread ill-will would've shifted from Amazon in a heartbeat. They could've spun this blunder into a PR opportunity if they were smart ("The big bad publisher wants us to delete your content, but we said no ...") - Brian Baggett

@Brian --- It's not any of my (or Amazon's) business why Orwell's estate (or anyone else) does or doesn't want to license electronic distribution. I personally think it's short-sighted for people not to do so, but that doesn't mean I think leaning on them the way you're describing is a good idea. Heck, I'd be MORE pissed w/ Amazon if they sent a letter like that. That's them using mob... more... - Ken Kennedy

@Brian -- there are lots of (academic, for example) works that I'd like to see on the Kindle that aren't there. I unfailingly click the "I'd like to see the on the Kindle" button, and I hope Amazon does something with it. I've even emailed authors and publishers directly. But I DON'T hope that someone rips them off and publishes things illegally, giving Amazon leverage to send "big bad publisher" letters. - Ken Kennedy

The whole debate raises a question about tightly controlled platforms such as the Kindle and iPhone, versus their ancestors that you could load with anything you liked... - Jonathan Beckett

@Ken - Had Amazon *intentionally* sold something it wasn't licensed to sell, sure they should be held accountable. However, a publisher they deal with sold Amazon something that *they* didn't own. That's not Amazon's fault; the ill will should be focused at the publisher who sold it to Amazon rather than Amazon playing copyright-cop. - Brian Baggett

"MobileReference, the publisher in question, formats and sells public domain books on Amazon. The only problem is that George Orwell's Animal Farm and 1984 are not yet in the public domain, at least not in the US. According to Amazon's statement to Ars Technica, "These books were added to our catalog using our self-service platform by a third-party who did not have the rights to the books." -- http://bit.ly/Depgj - Brian Baggett

I really think Amazon's learnt a very important lesson today. I guess the kindle marketplace is a nascent one, and a new foray for Amazon into DRM-encumbered file distribution. One would assume this will not happen again. - Bryce Roney from iPod

Do I have to be anti either? - Jesse Stay from iPhone

Robert Scoble 2009: "Wait a second the whole Amazon Kindle thing yesterday was ABOUT STOLEN property! That changes ALL the anti-Amazon arguments." Philip Mauro, 1906: "All talk about dishonesty and theft in this connection from however high a source is the merest claptrap for there exists no property in ideas musical, literary or artistic except as defined by statute." - Loryn Jenkins

Another point: this story has nothing in particular to do w/ the DRM on Kindle files. The "big deal" is the always-on (by default) connection that you don't often think about, since you don't pay monthly for it. WhisperNet is convenient, but that convenience has a downside. File DRM isn't the issue is b/c Amazon can and does sell ebooks w/o DRM; I bought a Kindle copy Mur Lafferty's... more... - Ken Kennedy

DRM isn't exclusive to a file; DRM can be an aspect of the hardware. - Brian Baggett

Valid point, Brian. But the Kindle isn't really DRM'd in a direct hardware sense...it mounts as a drive if you connect it to a USB port, and you can drag off the files. Most people don't, but there's absolutely nothing stopping you. I backup all my purchases (and yes, that includes stripping the encryption; I have unencrypted backups of all my books). If Amazon made it impossible for... more... - Ken Kennedy

@Brian...just saw your earlier comment: "the ill will should be focused at the publisher who sold it to Amazon". I agree 110%; sorry if it seemed otherwise. There's an argument that could be made that the complicated nature of copyright makes this stuff confusing (ie, the fact that these books are in the public domain in Canada, Australia, and Russia already), but that's no excuse. If... more... - Ken Kennedy

Amazon clearly violated federal "computer tampering" laws. See http://cid-c072ace4f752027c.sp... - Brian K. Stanley, Att'y

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Now a phrase from the liberal blogosphere that I loathe is "deep thought." (e.g. http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archive... ) Who can explain this wretched practice?

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People think they are clever when they write "Deep Thought" - because of th H2G2 reference - Jonathan Beckett

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Were we smarter 100 years ago? Comparing music industry arguments in 1909 copyright law to those today http://www.thepublicdomain.org/2009... (via slashdot)

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An excellent post, but no, I don't think that we (as a society) were any smarter then. Politicians were certainly selected by different criteria, though, due to the different communication mediums available (ie. far more emphasis on oral and written argument). - Michael R. Bernstein

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Ten surprising facts about Apollo 11's historic Moon mission; including Buzz Aldrin's communion on the moon - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/science...

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* Buzz Aldrin's father, Edwin Aldrin, was a good friend of Orville Wright - one of the famous brothers who built and flew the world's first airplane. * Buzz Aldrin was a firm Presbyterian Christian and had communion on the Moon. However it was kept secret from the public as Nasa was fighting a lawsuit by atheist Madalyn Murray O'Hair who objected to the Apollo 8 crew reading from the Book of Genesis. Aldrin's communion kit was prepared by the pastor of his church. - Jeffrey Marsh from Bookmarklet

One of the later astronauts did a telepathy experiment without the knowledge of NASA or the other astronauts too - it only came out years later. - Jonathan Beckett

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