"Evernote is becoming a favorite of many people for holding all their stuff. We put things into it. That’s a little vague, if you ask me."
- Seth Greenblatt
from Bookmarklet
Hi Seth, there's a room for Evernote if you didn't already know. You're welcome to join us if you want to share the ways you use it: http://friendfeed.com/rooms...
- Lindsay
Thanks, Lindsay. I actually do follow the Evernote Addicts Room, and I was in process of resharing when you posted this comment ;o)
- Seth Greenblatt
Perhaps not an app, but the coolest thing ever. A guy have taken pictures of his CD collection and linked every CD to the corresponding album on Spotify! Awsomeness! - http://s119572668.websitehome.co.uk/cdpics...
great app ! It just need to allow to be minimized to tray and it will be perfect !
- Basile
from IM
Is it just me or are more people using (and more apps allowing the use of) Twitter in place of IM?
- Akiva
no ability to group contacts from what i can tell, but the ui is pretty smooth and allows one to get all kinds of view/preferences with ease. i prefer a smaller window though it should probably be re-sizeable
- Cee Bee
akiva, i was thinking about that just yesterday -- how IM seems to be going the route of the 8-track barry gibb discography
- Cee Bee
Just said WTF because it said Destroy Twitter.. thought it was going to spam the heck out of me
- Tyler (Chacha)
Very Nice App. I wish it was Resizable though.
- Tyler (Chacha)
Cee Bee, I wouldn't even have an IM client installed if it weren't for two friends, both across the country, with whom I talk regularly. But there's no chance in hell I'd get either of them into another instant communication medium, unfortunately, so I'm stuck.
- Akiva
I personally find Twitter unusable as an IM platform. It's too much like a disorganized firehose. I find the @reply too cumbersome to actually use to have conversations with people.
- matthew john ernisse
matthew, that's why apps like this are necessary. They can filter, present conversations as threads, alert you to new DMs and @replies, and so forth.
- Akiva
@akiva I think it's unlikely then that Twitter will supplant IM until it is able to provide IM-style functionality natively. I don't think the mainstream audience is going to tolerate having to find an app to tack the functionality on.
- matthew john ernisse
Oh, I wasn't talking mainstream replacement. I'm just talking about the tech savvy. Twitter's too confusing for Ma & Pa MSN Messenger user, even with flashy little apps like this one.
- Akiva
Tried out their DestroyFlickr app and I liked it. From the site: " I'm Jonnie Hallman. Most of my days are spent destroying today. To destroy today is to make the most of the day—destruction as a form of creation. This is my carpe diem. "
- vijay
I guess it depends on what kind of tech savvy user you're talking about. I follow people just for the influx of trivia and random links mostly. I don't use apps with twitter, and have like 3 people I follow set to send SMS to my phone. Since the track function has been broken it's been even less useful since now @replies aren't SMS'd to me.
- matthew john ernisse
matthew, it's just a matter of how you choose to use Twitter. I'm the opposite of you: I tend not to follow people who just post an endless stream of links or who provide one-way conversation. I follow people who I find interesting and might chat back and forth with sometimes. So, it'd be more a viable idea for me than for you.
- Akiva
As has been discussed many times before, Twitter is many things to many people, and there is no 'right' usage or even standard usage. I use Twitter to converse with other local people, I auto-tweet my new blog posts (about the only auto thing I do really), and I often click on links posted I think might be interesting. Like Akiva said above, I think 'interesting' is the key word. I would add informative too perhaps, but even that usually needs to be of interest too!
- Ian May
nod, I think it'd be more likely to attract conversational usage from me if the website offered a better interface for it. I use many different computers and devices throughout the day that an app isn't really viable for me, so I tend to use it in the way the website allows. Much like how I'm more apt to participate in discussions here because of the ease of doing so :)
- matthew john ernisse
matthew, yep, conversations are definitely better in FriendFeed regardless of how apps try to coax it out of the Twitter API. But, back on the subject of this post: I tried this app and didn't like it. If I were to try to integrate Twitter into my daily life more, this is not the app I would use to do it.
- Akiva
"Bicycle thieves beware; this innovative lock system by Dominic Chargreave hoists bikes up 8 feet in the air and safely out of the reach of nasty nabbers. The cradle is mounted on the wall and with a remote control the owner can raise and retrieve their bike with ease."
- clarke thomas
from Bookmarklet
The free version contains a "Powered by Warm Forest" link in the footer and is limited to 7 portfolio projects. It contains everything you need to have a complete portfolio site up quickly with no Flash or programming knowledge required.
- Jonathan Kong
Thanks for the heads-up, I'll be checking it out later on today.
- Jonathan Brown
from twhirl
We have Google Apps at work, but my boss is a Microsoft guru and LOVES Outlook. I LOVE Gmail, so I've resisted most of his attempts to get me to pop Gmail down to Outlook. It's a battle every day. :)
- Jandy
I use the Mail.app in Mac, but everything stays on the server.
- Aaron Hood
Not sure I understand this debate. I use Mail.app to access my Google hosted mail via IMAP. Best of both worlds and Google in no way "destroys" my use of Mail.app. I presume Outlook could do the same.
- Nick in Manila
I love Gmail, but they still need better integration with other apps/platforms. For example, Google contacts needs to sync directly (and for free) with iPhone/iTunes, salesforce.com, etc.
- Peter Ghosh
@Kevin - They're going to rename the company to Google BETA, Inc soon? ;)
- Tyson Key
Sorry, I meant Google Calendar, not contacts . . .
- Peter Ghosh
Gmail is a great consumer webmail, but in no way "destroys" Outlook. How does Gmail allow me to book conference rooms, or recall errant emails, or follow SOX retention policies? Both have their place and are leaders in their own area, but one does not supplant the other.
- Ryan
one huge reason why Microsoft HATES Google, outlook is just one of the major pay for software offerings by MS that are being eroded in market share due to Google
- The Real sofarsoShawn
Comparing GMail to Outlook is like comparing Apples to Fruit Salad. :) They're not the same, even if they overlap on a few features.
- Kenneth LeFebvre
I would guess that Gmail is likely destroying Hotmail -- Outlook not so much. Still reason for Microsoft to be pissed at Google though.
- Brian Sullivan
I turned my tom(at)thomashawk.com email address over to gmail and I have to say that the reduction in spam is nothing short of remarkable. Every now and then I check the spam file and feel bad because real email gets trapped in there, but by and large it's awesome.
- Thomas Hawk
Feels like I'm preaching to the choir here but have been using gmail in one form or another since almost the beginning. After spending years using mac mail to consolidate accounts went full gmail a few months ago because it just works better and the extras are great. Don't see how anybody can top it. The only other one I've tried which shows some potential is zenbe.com.
- Mike Elliott
Gmail rocks! Once you start using it there's no going back. Two niggles though: Multiple signatures and blind group mailings, please!
- Todd Brunner
from twhirl
Gmail seems great at first - but recently, I have seen several messages disappear from my Inbox while I watch. Sometimes they reappear next time I check - sometimes not. Searching for reports of Gmail eating messages turns up a disturbingly high number of hits. Destroys Outlook? Maybe. Destroys messages? Yes. Not good enough, even for a free service! What use is 7 Gb of space - when it isn't 7 Gb of *reliable* space?
- James
from twhirl
so gmail finally has complete windows compatible keyboard macros, syncs my to my mobile phones, I can do my mailings with them, has an integrated crm system, and more? great. </sarcasm> (and I say this as an avid gmail user ...)
- Nicole Simon
Switched to Gmail from Outlook and never looked back.
- Roberto Bonini
didn't Bucheit invent Gmail according to Louis G? The opening shot in the downfall of Microsoft...?
- The Real sofarsoShawn
He was on the team, yes - and did the prototype for the Gmail Ads, i belive. Don't be modest Paul.
- Roberto Bonini
As much as I love gmail (I've got several accounts), I couldn't use it an office environment yet. Want to covert an email to an appointment or task just drag it to the calendar or task list in Outlook. Outlook also has search folders so I can set up folders for emails I got today. I know there are GreaseMonkey extensions to support search folders but Gmail's date searching is just crummy.
- Andy Davies
I wish people would stop killing the aps I use...I hate that.
- John D Reasor
Nice. I still have more trust in self-administered PKI; is that naive? Are they using asymmetric or symmetric crypto?
- coldbrew
Outlook destroyed Outlook the way MS destroys it's other products (and I have been an Outlook fan since '97): it became bloated and slow.
- Peter Ghosh
I'll still use thunderbird since I have to centralize many different mail accounts (and want them to be clearly separated), but I must admit that Gmail made a good point here :-)
- stanjourdan
Jourdan: Do you use PGP? We should have a key-signing party room on FF. Maybe I'll make one now...
- coldbrew
Gmail is far from destroying Outlook. I still have to use Outlook for plenty of things. It is just a different tool. Feature by feature Google is way way behind Outlook.
- Patrick Allmond
Gmail is the small business solution. Major corporations are way too private to be communicating outside the Outlook box. Yet Outlook has been shown in the past to have vulnerabilities. Security is less of an issue with smaller databases. Suits prefer the worn path, the grey rut.
- Phil Boiarski
Sorry, I meant gmail's encryption. I don't think it has any PKI option. does it?
- coldbrew
I don't understand that argument, Mark. By the same logic, Google couldn't be anything more than a niche search provider because nobody would trust a search engine that everyone uses.
- Kevin Fox
"When Outlook fails on one computer, only one computer and one user is affected." Right, because a software vulnerability in Outlook is programmed and rolled out on a per customer basis.
- virtually
There's just no way I'll use email software that uses the one-message-per-row paradigm again. The productivity gains from Conversations are just enormous.
- jakebf
@mark: that's entirely true, if kind of a moot point based on the probability. If visa went down tomorrow, nobody would be able to pay for much of anything. If Comcast went down, most of us would have no internet connection. It's clearly your prerogative to run all your own software infrastructure, but I'd rather have the convenience of web based software.
- Joel Webber
A lot of commentators are discussing chalk and cheese. Outlook is an email CLIENT / Application. GMail is another Client / Application. How you use each one is entirely up to each user. Most non-technical people think of Gmail as something they access via their browsers, whereas Outlook is a Microsoft Application that runs on their PC. Not entirely true. you can access GMail servers using any client (Outlook/Thunderbird).
- Chris Wright
from twhirl
Gmail+Gcal is an Outlook killer, no doubt about it. The day Gcal started sending SMS to my mobile with the reminders it also killed my old Palm Treo.
- Jordi Soler
What Gmail does is make using Email for the normal non techie person easy. The reality is most home users do not use the power of Ouitlook. The issue with Gmail is good lick syncing a pda or smart phone to it it works well for the calendar but not for contacts. Also Gmail does not give you an e asy way to store messages in tact offliine. Outlook has a PST file for offline storage and backup.
- Rob Cairns
As has been touched on in this thread. Gmail and Outlook are largely orthogonal. Outlook is a client. Gmail is a mail provider with a client. You can use Outlook with Gmail or another mail provider, but either way if that provider goes belly-up you're going to stop getting your mail for a bit. If you're concerned about your mail archives being hosted with someone else, then you should keep a local copy using a POP client, no matter what mail provider you happen to put your trust in.
- Kevin Fox
I went from using internal gmail at google to using Outlook at my new job, and while I think there are good things and bad things about the two platforms, I miss the speed and portability of gmail, but I like some the task/calendar features in Outlook. If I had my druthers, I'd use gmail.
- Ginger Makela Riker
"Gmail+Gcal is an Outlook killer, no doubt about it." Afraid not, Jordi, because GMail Contacts is a big ol' steaming cup of FAIL. When Google gets their act together on Contacts, then Outlook will be threatened.
- John Craft
Outlook is a platform for working with "items"... countless times I have dropped into the built-in macro language to do things with my email, tasks, appointments, contacts, etc., that I could never do with a webmail application like Gmail. I wish I could stop using it, because I'll admit it's a hog on resources, but there is no alternative that will do EXACTLY what I want to do like Outlook will with my custom scripts in it. :)
- Kenneth LeFebvre
GMail via a web browser is just using IMAP to access/control the mail on the mail server. You can set up Outlook/Thunderbird to access GMail using IMAP. It would be more accurate to say that using the GMail web interface has reduced the number of people using other client applications for accessing their email.
- Chris Wright
Why are people comparing apples with oranges here? Client vs service? Thunderbird may beat Outlook, but not Gmail itself. I do recognize the web client is good, but is not nearly as flexible as a standalone. Plus, as has been mentioned by others, I need multiple account processing. Gmail fails at this. Gmail will remain my service of choice in the end. Tbird at home, Outlook at work.
- Vince DeGeorge
@Enver: One example is automatically filling out my weekly timesheet from my calendar. Another example is automatically searching our company's online directory to grab mugshots for all my contacts, so I have their pictures to help me remember who's who... :) This is why I say Outlook is a *platform*. It seems to me that it would be an extraordinary amount of work to use something like Greasemonkey to actually add significant new functionality into Gmail, rather than just enhancing the user experience.
- Kenneth LeFebvre
BTW, I'm not knocking Gmail. I actually use it to host my own email domain... I'm just making the case that it's not an apples-to-apples comparison to put Gmail and Outlook in the same category.
- Kenneth LeFebvre
Hotmail offline access has been available for over a year now with Windows Live Mail client. Can't make out why the same feature for Gmail is that exciting. They are not the first one to enable this feature. Zoho and Hotmail has been having these for a long time.
- Amar Shah
Gmail rocks... hate when some old relatives still write to my hotmail and I gotta go in there to get it, just because microsoft won't allow automatic forward to gmail.
- Peter Efland
The next milestone for the development of Windows 7 is the Release Candidate or “RC”. Historically the Release Candidate has signaled “we’re pretty close and we want people to start testing the release, especially because all the features are done.” As we have said before, with Windows 7 we chose a slightly different approach which we were clear up front about and are all now experiencing together and out in the open.
- Leo Laporte
It is designed to facilitate high quality viewing with minimal distractions. Just add your flickr username at ihardlyknowher.com/yourname.
- Jonathan Kong
Interesting take on an old concept; I like it!
- Jonathan Brown
That's just crazy! I live in Montreal, Canada and it's the same shit. Each time I got in there I just want a coffee period; and I have to pick a million things. Do they know what the paradox of choice is?
- fbrunel
plus I find their "simple espresso" really bad, this is probably why they want to help us "feel important" with so much choice...
- Loic Le Meur
Entertaining and funny! Thanks for sharing! :-) So true of America, too...
- Jonathan Brown
And I agree, Loic, I think the massive quantities of choice are given because Americans in the culture all strive for one goal - power or money (sometimes both).
- Jonathan Brown
Frankly most of the time I prefer much less choice but quality. I would rather single choice of a good espresso at a terrace in Paris by the Louvre rather than all these fat non fat truffle options
- Loic Le Meur
I wonder if their sales would go down if they had less choice
- Loic Le Meur
Starbucks is more like a visit to the mall then the participation in a rich cultural tradition. I learned to love Italian cafes from living in Italy. Living is an art form for Italians and the cafe reflects that. Simple and pure.
- Rod Bauer
Really liked the youtube video! LOL! And it's not just Starbucks, I got into MacDonalds, or KFC etc... There is so much choice in everything that it becomes a poison!
- Shivanand Velmurugan
It's going to be an awesome device and perhaps the iPhone killer! RIM has nothing on this device!
- Elijah Nicolas
What browser does it use? Anyone say yet?
- Ralph Whitbeck
Palm would need to start a track record of great devices with a stellar OS in order to get back in the game.
- Aaron Eaton
iPhone user here. This looks super cool. Keep in mind it is a demo. As Microsoft has proved in the past. There are demos and then the real world. I hope Palm lives up to the demo. I wonder when it will ship. I hope it ships before the next iPhone or it may not matter.
- gfurry
Charo: I think this gets them back in the game.
- Robert Scoble
I think this gets them in the game and leaps them in front of Apple.
- Ralph Whitbeck
Interesting that we have a different impression not being at the live event. I can't wait to see high quality video of it to make better judgment.
- TheSleepyGeek
This looks cool. Not sure it would get me to give up my iPhone but seems like the first truly worthy competitor. And that's a good thing for the market.
- The original Kevin
@Ken, Palm has usually limited its exclusives to 3-6 months before rolling out to other carriers, especially when Sprint is the exclusive.
- John Craft
John: Aha. So six months is "a few". Gotcha. ;-)
- Ken Sheppardson
Needs a FriendFeed integration feature to really make it... ;)
- Tyson Key
As a mostly happy iPhone user, I hope Palm can get back in the game. The phone's OS seems to step it up, but the phone itself seems a bit thick. ANd I didn't catch a price from Sprint. Also, by the time this comes out, the iPhone OS may also get an upgrade. Interesting times. Good luck to all.
- Kawika Holbrook
It looks like a seriously good device. My question is, will there be a new iPhone in the middle of this year, and if so, what would it take for it to make this irrelevant? It seems like incremental software improvements would do that - a better launcher in particular. A cpu speed bump, larger storage, thinner device, and the long-promised notification service, and not a lot else would seem to be needed. Also being CDMA this is likely to be US only for a while.
- Robin Barooah
@greg - I stand corrected. I wonder what the global GSM vs CDMA figures are.
- Robin Barooah
GSM users >> CDMA users worldwide. Why isn't it UMTS? I have a bad feeling about this.
- Victor Ganata
C'mon, folks - the radio is the easiest part of the equation. if it is popular, drop in an HSPA chip.
- John Craft
Greg: Seriously? 3.5 bil of the world's 6.7 bil people have a GSM phone? Call me skeptical.
- Ken Sheppardson
Ken: Not an unbiased source I know but the GSMA website claims 3 billion. Here in Europe it's the standard, 3G uptake is very slow.
- Russ
To me this looks like it's better positioned to take Blackberry customers than Apple ones - emphasis on the home/vs work calendars and contacts etc plus keyboard. It could be a straight enhancement for a Blackberry user, where as an iPhone user would have to trade one set of benefits for another.
- Robin Barooah
Cute, but I would probably break it. =(
- Shevonne
This is very very H-O-T. It's only a prototype right now but WANT
- Mona Nomura
Mona, if we find the guy who has one, you distract him with your dazzling good looks I will hit him with a chair and then we share it for a while until I get jealous and have to hit you with chair and run off with my Android mistress.
- Cody Heitschmidt
Holy shit I got carried away in that last comment sorry....
- Cody Heitschmidt
LOL Cody, don't worry, we don't have to resort to violence! I'll just ask him to read the Windows 7 installation manual to me which'll put him to sleep!
- Mona Nomura
from IM
This is just a protype but VoIP right out of the box is appealing. Since I have such terrible service, I'm forcing all of my friends to sign up with Skype LOL
- Mona Nomura
Best part: you could see any kind of app on this, it's not sharing a closed application market with a cell phone (like the iPod touch and the iPhone), so you won't have someone denying an app if it isn't in the best interest of the company or wireless provider.
- Shawn Farner
Looks very tempting. I've got a port of android running on my N800 which works pretty well, apart from the on-screen keyboard which is so buggy it's unusable (not sure if that's just because of the port). Fingers cross for a sub £200 price in the UK.
- Russ
Resistive touchscreen = FAIL. And touchscreen != "tablet."
- Karim
Ok then, so what would you have headlined it Karim?
- Mona Nomura
from IM
Uh, how about "Cheap-Ass iPod Touch Knockoff With Screen That Requires Really Hard Press, Minus Ability to Sync Music to PC, Possibly $149 If Everything Works Out As Planned?" :-D
- Karim
It's a prototype, Karim :-P You're not going to find this in the store tomorrow. Some companies go to these shows with a video and a device that doesn't even work.
- Shawn Farner
I see your point though. "Android tablet $149" much better linkbait :-D
- Karim
;) And I'm glad I asked for you to re-title. You never fail to crack me up. Shawn - have you noticed a lot of companies are making their products available right away? That sort of "demo" or "prototype will be available JUST in time for Christmas!" mentality is evolving, imho.
- Mona Nomura
from IM
I wonder if anyone on the GMail team is color blind - the default theme is full of blank areas for me.
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
It's not happening to my Gmail ATM but looking at the screenshot, some of the themes looked pretty stoked! :)
- Jonathan Kong
Scarlett, I just had to reply to you. It's the GWTW thing. Never got to do that till now.:)
- Melanie Reed
that's pretty strange - I accessed them on my laptop, but they don't work on the very same account when accessed from a different computer. I'm confused.
- maed
that is strange maed...have you tried logging out then in...clearing cache etc...?
- Zee.
"If you’ve built a media PC and are now looking for a reasonable wireless keyboard and mouse, how about using the Nokia N800 or N810 Internet Tablet instead? BlueMaemo is a port of ReMoko for the Linux-based Maemo OS used on the touchscreen devices, and basically offers the Internet Tablet as a combined keyboard and mouse device via the Bluetooth HID profile. That means you can wirelessly connect the Tablet and use the touchscreen as a trackpad, as well as call up various menu options including video playback control. If you have a keyboard-enabled N810 then you can use that for input; not something to type the next great American novel on, perhaps, but enough for URLs and maybe some instant-messaging. It’s not limited to HTPCs, though; BlueMaemo has been tested with Linux BlueZ, Windows XP (SP2 and SP3), Windows XP Media Center Edition and Windows Vista. Brighthand suggest it could be a good way of adding keyboard functionality to a UMPC, but I don’t know that many people who carry both a UMPC and a Nok
- Cee Bee
from Bookmarklet
yeah this is a super cool way to use this gadget
- Cee Bee
Really interesting. Kind of surprised to see Reddit in other US #1. I believe Pleasanton is a large server hub - so it could really just be classified as SF/SJ Metro.
- AJ Kohn
Wouldn't the presence of a companies HQ skew the data so that city/region would come out on top? I know that we have people in our marketing dept. google our name to see what pops up - and lo and behold - the city where we are HQ'd is #1. A random company - Lockheed Martin - indicates that the top Google searches are all around where their company locations are....Just a random thought....
- George Smith
George: Of course it would. Zillow is a great example. But even with that, there are many examples here where that's not the case.
- Louis Gray
It's an interesting data set - I just don't think having a SF area based #1 is a sign you haven't jumped. iTunes obviously has. As has linkedin. I love google trends - but think this data set is a mixed bag.
- George Smith
FYI: Halifax (#1 for Facebook) has a population no greater than 400K. Many US cities have 5 to 10 times Halifax's population in a similar geographic area.
- Mark Dykeman
Well, sites like Twitter still have about a year before true mainstream acceptance. Something like FriendFeed is probably 18 months or more from mainstream acceptance, and it would need more filtering capabilities to get there. Video on a mobile is probably a little closer, but not sure about the publishing aspect.
- Rob Diana
Rob: try again. Blogging still is barely mainstream and it's been out for 10 years now. Facebook just got to 110 million users. How many people in the world are there? Six billion? Funny how we consider things "mainstream."
- Robert Scoble
Well, if 110 million users isn't "mainstream", then yes, I will change my estimates :) I think twitter (or microblogging) will go mainstream soon because it is so simple, and IM-like. "Real" blogging requires too much work and thought, and that is probably why it took so long. That and the tools have not been around for the full 10 years. Not sure when things like LiveJournal and WordPress really came about.
- Rob Diana
LiveJournal was out in late 90s, I remember seeing it 2001 and I'm sure I wasn't early. WordPress came out shortly after that. Probably around 2003. Yeah, microblogging will probably be more popular than regular blogging. I'd agree with that, but it has a long way to go. Twitter has, what, a million or two users, not all of whom are active?
- Robert Scoble
What's amazing is it seems that you guys beat the mainstream by days, not hours- for example, Andreesen/Facebook
- Dino
LiveJournal, early 1990s? Try 1999, as late 1990s as it gets. ;o)
- Fraser Smith
Sorry, I meant early 2000's. I'll fix that.
- Robert Scoble
you are talking about heads down researchers from the nihs hp though robert :-p
- mike "glemak" dunn
LiveJournal is huge in Russia, apparently. And the biggest search engine there is something called Yonex (useless info 4 the day alert)
- john conroy
For me, I've gotten used to think in terms of mainstream for techies and mainstream for the general public.
- Joey Lo
@Rob Diana - You're wrong - FriendFeed does not need more filtering to become mainstream. Mainstream users don't filter, they expect it to work and that's it. You're also wrong about FriendFeed becoming mainstream anytime soon. People don't use many services, therefore FF is useless for them. Not even blogging is mainstream, and probably won't ever at a scale like Facebook. Most people haven't got interesting things to tell.
- sebmos
I'm no techie, compared to some of the folks around FF anyway. I know "just enough to be dangerous," according to my wife's IT dept. But I rely on posts from folks like Scoble et al. to expand my knowledge of the tech world. FF is invaluable for that, but even though I signed up for it months ago, I didn't really start using it until the last 4-6 weeks. I think new sites and apps take a little getting used to, esp. if you're not really "out there" in terms of knowledge and know-how.
- Steve Lowe
This says more about the researchers being out of touch than it does about social media.
- Sam Pullara
I use my father and brother as 'touchstones' for mainstream. My dad, at 71 is an attorney who uses the computer for work only, doesn't regularly use email for personal reasons (but does for work) and can use the internet (he tracked down my twitter!) but doesn't see the need for it. My brother, at 44 is a judge who majored in CS & Psych in undergrad. He's a computer geek, but more into gaming than SocMed. They keep me from buying into the 'echo chamber' - yes, we are that far ahead.
- Lucretia Pruitt
The Fins sold us the phones. So maybe we're not that far ahead. :-)
- Dave Winer
I agree with Scoble,blogs, twitter, friendfeed, plurks won't be mainstream for a while. There is actual nothing in them that would give people a reason to hop on them in droves. E-mail yes, IM yes, static webpages, forums yes. And that's all.
- Roland Hesz
I asked a bunch of people I work with regularly about Friendfeed and 1 person knew what it was. I work in the web industry. Maybe I was asking the wrong people.
- Kate
Our focus is different. I don't know jack about sustainable architecture, for instance, but my friends who don't give a damn about blogs are all about green energy, sustainable city planning, etc. That's something that a lot of people on FriendFeed don't understand or care about. "Ahead" is a relative term. My dad is on FriendFeed, but he just sees it as another way to follow what I'm...
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- Steve Lynch
from Alert Thingy
I like what Steve Lynch replied, re. his friends/other people having a different focus, especially the bit re. his friends "who don't give a damn about blogs are all about green energy, sustainable city planning, etc. That's something that a lot of people on FriendFeed don't understand or care about. 'Ahead' is a relative term." I see that in my own communities of interest, where people are comfortable with forums (ew!), have made tentative forays into FB, but don't get blogs, much less Twitter, FF, etc.
- Yule Heibel
This discussion is a bit self-congratulatory, wouldn't you say? I would frame it a different way: how out of touch with the mainstream are we? The answer, of course, is very much so. Another question: are we out here on the cutting edge or just hunting snipe?
- Juan Aguilar
I doubt Twitter will ever go "mainstream" if we define mainstream as a majority of the people who are online via computers or cellphones. Blogs, wikis, RSS, none of that is mainstream. Browsing, email, SMS...those are mainstream.
- wrecks
now that it is mentioned, SMS reached mainstream pretty quick.
- Ruben Llibre
@Jua Aguilar Hunting snipe. It's not in any way a cutting edge. It's just a way to pass time.
- Roland Hesz
@wrecks: Good point. Maybe it would be better to talk about functionality rather than platforms, then. I'd say that social networking and IM are mainstream. I think real-time video on cellphones (for example) could go mainstream in a few years, but it wouldn't necessarily mean that "Qik" goes mainstream. I think wiki-like functionality will become more common... because it is very...
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- Steve Lynch
from Alert Thingy
Lots a of great points, regarding Robert's original post I think that online video is finally taking off in a big way thanks to YouTube and that speaks more to the mainstream than any of the social applications we use to create and share content and conversation. Live mobile video broadcasting is still relatively new but video chat with Skype seems to be reaching a mainstream audience thanks to Oprah using it on her show and recent New Earth web casts. How much does the generation gap play into this?
- Larry Kless
I just started work at fav.or.it, Nick is working to bring at least blog reading and following to the masses. but its hard work.
- Tim Hawkins
R U KIDDING ME!!!!! OMG no wonder HP is not in touch anymore..dang!
- Susan Beebe