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AWESOME! All my favorite Internet memes are in this pic!
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LOL @Pedo
- rowlikeagirl
pedobear + ceiling cat + hypnotoad = win. lol.
- Bora Mesut PALAS
Don't forget chutulu. :)
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
And the Three Wolf Moon T-shirt.
- Neal Krummell
Find the FUUUUUUUU
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
Hah. The first thing I looked for was good ol' Pedobear. I felt a moment of panic when I could not see him but then bam! There he was. And all is right with the world again.
- Akiva Moskovitz
The narwhal is there, perfect...*with* bort watching! This is a heavily-reddit-inspired pic
- Itachi
ha! I noticed that fuuuu'ing RAGE FACE down there, finally. but what about that white thing pointing inside the room? never seen it before.
- Bora Mesut PALAS
*CUE CSI MIAMI INTRO* YEAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
I like the "please do not feed the trolls" and evolution fish.
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
Bora, it's Reddit http://www.reddit.com
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
That is Bort, Bora...the mascot of Reddit. And the two guys I'm assuming are Alexis and Steve (founders of reddit). They got the orange mailbox..edit: nvm, that guy is Caruso
- Itachi
all that i've found is HL,House and gmail-kill me :(
- morose
The guy with the cane and the crowbar is House, I'm pretty sure. Happy to see bacon make an appearance. :)
- Curtiss Grymala
The other guy is Horatio Caine in a classic put on sunglasses moment
- Rasmus Lauridsen
mmmm Bacon
- Rasmus Lauridsen
Wow, I don't know at least 10 of these memes.
- Andrew C
Someone explain to me that frog?
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
and what about the "learn how to (p)eel a banana" brochure?!?
- Lui(gi) ►►
Luigi, it was a popular youtube video (http://www.youtube.com/watch...)
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
The banana peeling is a guy who made a video about how to peel a banana like a monkey - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Rasmus Lauridsen
The 'More You Know' jingle should be playing on repeat in this post.
- Akiva Moskovitz
@AJ @Rasmus my life will never be the same again! thank you guys, I'm gonna post it right now ;-) lol
- Lui(gi) ►►
I don't know the majority of them. Which would make me feel pretty square except I remember tons of memes that aren't on here.
- Spidra Webster
So does anyone know how to create the creepy reddit stare emote depicted on that guy's head bag? I need to have that one available for an easy cut/paste.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
My favorite is missing. Just damn. :-(
- Dave Roth
I see no cheezburgers or lolcatz. Fail!
- Curtiss Grymala
Curtiss, look at the ceiling cat.
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
At the risk of asking a stupid question... what's an "internet meme"?
- Philippe
Here you go, Philippe. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
Got it now! Thanks, AJ!
- Philippe
AJ - Ceiling cat is supposed to be white. I thought the thing sticking its head out of the ceiling was supposed to be the Firefox or something (as it looks more like a fox than a cat). You could be right, though
- Curtiss Grymala
Curtiss, original ceiling cat I think wasn't white.
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
AJ, it's Hypno Toad, a television star in Futurama.
- Raphael, Raphael
Thanks Raphael. Didn't know that. ;)
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
Ceiling cat is on my desktop right now, and he's an orange tabby. And he's staring at me.. he knows.. somehow he knows..
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
Great !
- ★ Soner Gönül
Robert Scoble is fearless. And brings our total to, what, 5?
tinypants - Hagitha of FF, Francois Lamotte, Jesse Stay and 48 other people liked this
What the heck is this?!
- Adam Helweh
They're just one beach and one appletini away from http://friendfeed.com/akiva...
- Akiva Moskovitz
Whoa.
- Derrick
What Shel doesn't count?
- Brian Sullivan
I think this was part of the promotion (maybe unscripted) for their book "Naked Conversations"
- Brian Sullivan
YAY!
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
So even Robert Scoble is part of the topless meme. Excellent!
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Am I the only only laughing my bits off that he now works for Rackspace? HAahahahahhahahaha!!!!!
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
OMG that's so perfect! HAHAHAHAHA WIN!
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Hehe Tina - until they see this pic ;)
- jcunwired
topless meme!!!
- anna sauce
HAHAHA
- mjc
a little bromance is great for the soul......
- Lokei Atikus™®
LMAO! digging Tina's comment. :D
- vijay
...HIDING in 3-2.....
- .LAG liked that
There is a lot of history to this picture. It was taken in Mike Arrington's back yard at the last Techcrunch party to be held in his house. This was a launch party too for our book Naked Conversations. It sounded like a good idea at the time. JD Lasica shot the photo and my wife and dad were within a few feet.
- Robert Scoble
This pic totally reminds me of when SF incumbent mayoral candidate Frank Jordan posed in the shower with two morning shock jocks. Ran on the front page of all the papers. Jordan lost, btw.
- Sue Radd
Sue: I guess I never will run for mayor then! :-)
- Robert Scoble
Nice...just the picture to see before I walked the dog and made my coffee. ;-)
- Mathew A. Koeneker
we do not deserve this
- Giovanni de Paola
ahahah
- Giovanni de Paola
OMG :)
- Gökmen Karasu
DAMN IS IT REALLY SCOBLE?
- Alp
There really should be a caption competition for this pic
- Ewan MacLeod
Bump for good times.
- Mark Krynsky
Be scared, be very very scared.
- Paula W
O_O
- Danny Minick
Art Review - Long Island - ‘Danny Simmons - From There to Here’ in East Hampton - NYTimes.com - http://www.nytimes.com/2009...
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Mr. Simmons likes to rise at 5 a.m. to paint, working in silence and allowing his paintings to grow intuitively, a method he shares with many of the best abstract artists. It is a risky, gutsy way to make art, somewhat hit or miss, but when it succeeds, the results are a marvelous tangle of lines, shapes and collage elements
- triple t
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Meredith Maran on the failure of Proposition 8 | Salon Life - http://www.salon.com/mwt...
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""I give you my word," he looked into my eyes and said. "President Barack Obama will be a friend to gay people." I remembered hearing those same words from David Mixner, Bill Clinton's gay campaign advisor, at a D.C. gay rights demonstration in 1991. Don't drink the Kool-Aid again, a voice in my head warned me."
- Chuck LeDuc Díaz
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I keep telling myself that the only thing that matters is who President Obama nominates to the Supreme Court. It is scant comfort.
- Chuck LeDuc Díaz
that's a good point, Chuck.
- mjc
Don't get screened for prostate cancer - AmyTuteurMD - Open Salon - http://open.salon.com/blog...
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"Most men will develop prostate cancer if they live long enough. However, most prostate cancers are very slow growing and usually do not kill the patient. A man with prostate cancer generally dies of some other cause long before the prostate cancer becomes life threatening. Therefore, the PSA test diagnoses many cases of prostate cancer that do not need to be treated as well as a few cases of prostate cancer that are very aggressive. Not only is there no benefit to diagnosing the slow growing prostate cancers, but there seems to be very little benefit to diagnosing the aggressive cancers early, since some do not respond to treatment even when administered in the early stages. The second study, Screening and Prostate-Cancer Mortality in a Randomized European Study, showed a very small decrease in deaths associated with PSA screening. That decrease came at a very high price: To prevent one prostate-cancerdeath, 1410 men (or 1068 men who actually underwent screening)would have to be screened, and an additi"
- Paul Buchheit
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Cheerful! [And informative.]
- Akiva Moskovitz
How do you know if they benefited Chris? The point of such studies it to see what would have happened if they were never screened, the the evidence in this article suggests that they would have most likely been better off (no unnecessary surgery), though it's probably worth doing a little more reading before assuming that this article presents the best available evidence.
- Paul Buchheit
This is very important piece of research, great share. Is it going to change policy?
- WorldofHiglet
People should be aware that a similar study conducted in Europe about the same time as this one showed a 20% reduction in mortality for people who received PSA screenings. (Sorry, no link—I heard it on NPR last night.)
- Mistletoe Glen
IMHO there's a pretty serious logical disconnect between "Don't get screened for prostate cancer" and "To prevent one prostate-cance rdeath, 1410 men would have to be screened". How much does a test cost, by the way?
- Ken Sheppardson
@glenc: if their numbers is close to the ones in this study, it means the reduction of mortality at at tune of about .5% of those treated. Too bad this article doesn't quote any numbers for serious side-effects
- Лосось норвежской выделки
@cristoblanco: that's basically what they say (w/o the numbers, though) the chance of associated troubles is much more significant than that of life-saving
- Лосось норвежской выделки
@kshep: it's probably more about side-effects than cost
- Лосось норвежской выделки
@chris: if loss of sexual function is the only side effect, that might be true. Besides, the study is not 'anti-treatment', but 'anti-screening'. They don't object to treating those who have been diagnosed with prostate cancer 'normally'
- Лосось норвежской выделки
This is a public policy argument, not a guide to individual action. You can see this here: "there seems to be very little benefit to diagnosing the aggressive cancers early, since some do not respond to treatment even when administered in the early stages.". That may well be true overall, but I'd much be tested, and if necessary treated, to take a chance on a full recovery, even where 'some' do not respond.
- Stan Scott
I seem to recall discussing a similar issue with Paul some years ago regarding mammography.
- Gabe
The side-effects for screening are minimal. The PSA is a blood test that can be done along with other screenings (like cholesterol). I do these anyway and plan to keep on getting PSA tests.
- Leo Laporte
A very poor and ill informed article. Too many men are still diagnosed too late in stage IV disease and last 12-18 months. It is a fallacy to think it is slow growing in all patients.
- Sally Church
It is scientific fact that those diagnosed early with any cancer are more likely to receive surgery and be cured. The watchful waiting approach favoured by many PCPs is not always the best approach. My own father was diagnosed in stage III and in 18 months he was dead. Ignorant doctors are one of my biggest pet peeves. They should re-train every 10 years to keep current.
- Sally Church
Hmmmmm interesting <note to self> get screened real soon -]
- Chris Loft
Sally, I think the point is that being cured doesn't necessarily prevent you from dying. A large number of people who are cured of cancer wouldn't have died from it anyway.
- Gabe
Isn't the lesson here, don't get treated for prostate cancer? It seems a misnomer to focus on screening. Why not just get screened once a year and then operate if it seems like it is becoming a problem?
- Kevin Fischer
Kevin, the lesson is don't get treated if the cancer isn't likely to kill you.
- Gabe
Those stats are focusing on general screening. Obviously, a doc should factor in risk and symptoms. I will say it is a little harder to hear this if you have a loved one who died of prostate cancer.Now, I am waiting for the up and coming salivary diagnostic tests - much easier and less expensive, making the cost differential less of a factor. Just grab a gob of spit and test for everything!
- Patricia F. Anderson
The supposed problem is that the expense of the screening, but the side-effects of treatment, which can apparently be worse than a slow-growing tumor and useless against a fast growing one. What is needed is better treatment.
- Paul Buchheit
Gabe, that's a very simplistic view. Many do die from prostate cancer so taking the no treatment approach doesn't help everyone.
- Sally Church
the conclusion of the research article seems to be that PSA screening is ineffective - a meaningful improvement wasn't found
- Mike Chelen
Tomatoes thrive on urine, study finds - http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/news...
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"Yields for plants fertilised with urine quadrupled and matched those of mineral-fertilised plants. The urine-fertilised tomatoes also contained more protein and were safe for human consumption. "This is a very simple technology. Urine can be collected in a urine-diverting toilet or it can be collected in a separate jerry can [from] an ordinary, pre-existing toilet. If wood ash is available, this can be use as a supplement of phosphorus, potassium and other nutrients," Pradhan said. He added that the method is a free alternative to expensive mineral fertiliser, which is also not easily available in remote or hilly areas. Pradhan also believes that the idea could improve sanitation by incentivising toilet-building. A pilot program based on the research will be launched in Nepal in November."
- Brad Williamson
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is this some sort of September Fools joke?
- Brad Williamson
I don't think so Brad. You are also supposed to pee in the compost pile too as a way of adding back your important minerals :-)
- Todd Hoff
@adamqp those who really understand the works of Derrida would not claim they were "doing deconstruction"
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Why Docs Like The Public Option - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/d-brad-...
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"So, the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation conducted a poll and found that physicians overwhelmingly support a public option approach to health reform. That is, they want to see a mixed public-private approach, rather than government simply providing subsidies to low-income individuals to purchase private insurance, or--and they really didn't like this--a government only option (i.e., single-payer)."
- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
Because they get paid more frequently?
- Alex Scrivener
exactly.
- Roberto Bonini
(My main questions...what doctors, where, how large was the sample size for the poll...etc - how were these numbers arrived upon.)
- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
Ah... *grin* Answer to that: "The survey included more than 5,000 doctors spread across an array of specialties, and asked two sets of questions. The first gauged support for a public health-care system, a system with public and private options, and a solely private system. The second measured attitudes towards Medicare. The results should be generally cheering to reformers."...
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- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
On a related note, "45% Of Doctors Would Consider Quitting If Congress Passes Health Care Overhaul" http://bit.ly/2lycX
- Alex Scrivener
I would like to see the methods of these surveys compared. Numbers like these are too easy to fudge.
- Alex Scrivener
Alex, looks like you & I ask the same questions. I'm very skeptical of the numbers...and like you, I would like to see a comparative analysis. Also, the phrasing with the "Consider Quitting" one, I would have automatic questions, just *glancing* at that one... One thing I detest about numbers (the one you linked and the one I posted) is that it's not so much that the numbers are easy to...
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- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
The idea of quitting probably breaks down across generational lines. The old timers probably have enough saved in retirement even with the market crash to just bail out. The ones who just got out of residency don't really have any choice but to stay considering how much debt they're in.
- Victor Ganata
Victor, that is a consideration. What makes this troubling to me, and I don't honestly know how much it's been factored into the reform concerns, is the number of people actually pursuing careers as physicians anymore. Not because healthcare isn't a noble field (it is), but because of various concerns about becoming physicians (the shafting of payments by big insurance; the reality of...
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- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
There really needs to be more incentives to encourage people to go into primary care. The way our reimbursement system is structured, it makes way more sense financially to become a specialist. If the system isn't changed drastically, what's probably going to happen is that mid-levels (nurse practitioners and physician assistants) will provide most primary care. This makes a lot of sense financially because they don't require as much training as physicians do, and they also don't expect to be paid as much.
- Victor Ganata
The RWJF has a report with a complete methodology writeup: http://www.rwjf.org/healthr... (click the PDF link)
- Andrew C
@Victor: Indeed - I feel (personally, having observed this from the inside x15+ years) that big insurance has done an incredible disservice to the medical profession for more reasons than I have space here to name. You're right about specialization, related to reimbursement, though I would also note that if one *really* wanted to break out of that, the only specialty to go for is...
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- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
@Andrew: Yep, I saved that file to my desktop earlier this morning for later in-depth review, as I suspect I will be using it toward an upcoming essay assignment (and it will likely be applicable to my dissertation - hehe).
- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
@Alex - Nate Silver weighed in on that poll: http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009...
- Andrew C
LOL "biased AND inept" What actually pisses me off about this poll is that it perpetuates the myth that every single doctor is a money-grubbing bastard who doesn't actually care about their patients, and because they're all rich, you should abuse them as much as you can.
- Victor Ganata
You mean that isn't the case? ;-)
- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
Well, sometimes it really seems like everyone believes the last part ;)
- Victor Ganata
Think Progress » Limbaugh says we need to return to ‘segregated buses.’ - http://thinkprogress.org/2009...
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"LIMBAUGH: I think the guy’s wrong. I think not only it was racism, it was justifiable racism. I mean, that’s the lesson we’re being taught here today. Kid shouldn’t have been on the bus anyway. We need segregated buses — it was invading space and stuff. This is Obama’s America."
- Steven Perez
from Bookmarklet
*facepalm*
- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
sigh.
- Fa La La La Lindsay
And people used to laugh whenever I said that Rush is a racist.
- Steven Perez
whut?
- Mary Carmen
`It’ host Neil Patrick Harris takes on the Emmys - http://www.365gay.com/news...
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(Los Angeles) If only one awards show host at a time holds the "it" title, then the current darling is Neil Patrick Harris. Harris entered the big leagues with this year's Tony Awards, using his musical theater skills and easy charm to win over the audience and critics. A phone call ...
Lesbian GI Seeks Asylum in Canada - http://www.military.com/news...
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"A lesbian who deserted the U.S. military has requested asylum in Canada, claiming she faced harassment and death threats from fellow Soldiers over her sexual orientation, media said Wednesday. Pvt. Bethany Smith, 21, claimed she had asked the U.S. military for a discharge after being outed by another Soldier who spotted her walking hand in hand with a woman at a mall. But she was denied because her superiors wanted to send her to Afghanistan, she told Canadian media. In deferring her case until she returned from Afghanistan, the U.S. military broke its so-called "don't ask, don't tell" policy of discharging openly gay members, she contends. A Canadian immigration panel rejected her refugee claim -- believed to be the first by a lesbian or gay American Soldier. But she appealed Tuesday to a federal court to overturn the tribunal's decision. According to reports, Smith claimed she was badgered daily and received more than 100 threatening notes on her dormitory door, including death...
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- ProsePetals (aka Denise)
Fwd: Hi Folks! Today is my birthday, I'm 33! :) And I wanted to celebrate by releasing and idea -and an implementation of it- to the wild! It's Socnode: The basic unit of distributed social networks. http://www.socnode.org/ (via http://friendfeed.com/openff...)
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happy bday
- viki saigal
Happy Birthday, Meryn. You have enriched my Friendfeed experience immeasurably, so cheers to the day you were born. You are a deep thinker!
- Laura Norvig
oops. dang forwards. Happy Birthday, Directeur!
- Laura Norvig
Thanks Laura! And you're DEFINITELY right, Meryn is really a deep thinker! :)
- directeur
Happy Birthday, Meryn, and many more!
- Polly Potter
Whoops! This fwd has caused some misunderstanding. :) Thanks for the congratulations, but you're about three month late. ;) Also, I've not had the pleasure to live 33 years. I still got seven to go or so...
- Meryn Stol
Poll Finds Most Doctors Support Public Option : NPR - http://www.npr.org/templat...
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"When polled, "nearly three-quarters of physicians supported some form of a public option, either alone or in combination with private insurance options," says Dr. Salomeh Keyhani. She and Dr. Alex Federman, both internists and researchers at Mount Sinai School of Medicine in New York, conducted a random survey, by mail and by phone, of 2,130 doctors. They surveyed them from June right up to early September."
- MikeAmundsen
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Toward a Unified Metaphysical Understanding: Invitation to a Conversation - http://www.newciv.org/nl...
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"Flow-Chart for a Rational Discourse It is only within conversational contexts that encourage the ego to “play the game of rational truth seeker” that effective reasoning is possible. In light of this I have drawn up a flow-chart. Think of it as a game board upon which we can play the game of rational truth seeker. The structure of the board is not set in stone and is open to discussion and revision, but it serves as a basic guide to help us create an impersonal, detached and rational conversation. Note that because this is a 'game' that does not make it meaningless and trivial. It may become very important and involve intense clashes of ideas, but it will remain within the scope of rational truth seeking and will not devolve into ego battles and propaganda war. The flow-chart also serves as a common contract. If you enter the conversation you must abide by this contract and you can also expect other participants to abide by it as well. Hence it is a guarantee that you will receive...
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- Thomas Page
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well written and helpful to those who want to learn and grow
- sally stokhamer
I love the way the thunder rolls around the valley - as if it's trapped by the ring of mountains
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Joe. My. God.: Educashun Iz Soshlist! - http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2009...
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Filing unemployment as we speak. Have umpteen tabs open for a job search. This is a whole lot like work =/
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Welcome to your new job. Finding a job. Don't get too over-whelmed. It can and is a pain in the butt.
- Mathew A. Koeneker
good luck with the job hunting
- Imabug
Good luck, Tina! I hope you find something wonderful soon.
- LAMB
The paperwork is killer. Hoping you find something that makes this all worth it.
- Jess
When I went out to L.A. in '07, I spent at least 6 hours a day job searching. I'd look for jobs to apply to in the morning, take a break for lunch and then write up cover letters and tweak my resume in the afternoon. Some days there was more work than on others but, yeah, it was definitely work.
- pea
It's been a while since I've had this particular 'job', but I find it more challenging now than before: the company I worked at was bought and sold 3x while I was there, it makes for quite the paper trail for me to explain. Boo!
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Good luck Tina, it's a drag, but exciting too. ...looking forward to finding out who the lucky winner is!
- Edward Zwart
best wishes on this pursuit. i'm confident you'll find something goodo. :)
- Joe Silence
It's a full time job!
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
I'm hoping so, DS. I'm in the process of revamping my resume and find myself at a crossroads: do I mention clients by name? The fact that our company worked with them is public knowledge so there wouldn't be any disclosure issues, and mentioning them by name will give some nice weight to my job duties. I'm not even sure why I'm waffling on it...
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
is there any way you can ask their explicit permission? that would certainly put my mind at rest if i was in your place. dunno if that's going too far or not.
- Joe Silence
If it's public knowledge than I say mention that you worked with them. I wouldn't ask for persmission. They may say no for some silly reason and then what will you do?
- pea
:(((((
- Jim Addz No Value
Good Luck!!!!!
- sofarsoShawn
There's not really a way for me to reliably ask for permission: the main client I worked with is a Fortune 500 company and just the request would get bounced around from department to department for who knows how long. You should've seen the hoops we went through when our mailing address changed...
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
I think just listing the companies and providing a broad idea of what was entailed wouldn't be an issue. Probably shouldn't get too detailed though. But it really just depends on how you're structuring your resume.
- pea
I hope you find something that pays well that you enjoy, Tina. I'm sorry you're in this position.
- Spidra Webster
I'm up in the air on that one too, Pea. My last 2 positions were very different and I'd take a new job in either field (development or trainer). Both used some similar skills but the duties themselves were very different. Perhaps I'll try both a skills resume and a chronological resume, see which one gets the most bites.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
I tweaked my resume for each job I applied for but I basically had two versions of it. Same format, and information, just laid out differently. One focused more on the program monitoring/contract work and one focused on tech support, data management.
- pea
Thanks Abby =) At this point I'm just hoping I can find my last resume: it would be helpful right about now! Combing through data backups as we speak =/
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
I'm happy to take a look at it if you like, once you have it updated.
- pea
:( good luck!!
- Rachel Lea Fox
Remember my pool idea if all else fails.....
- Joe
:(
- David Cook
Hope you get to something you like first and don't get caught doing burgers or something because of timing issues... may that unemployed delay not be applied anymore.
- ElijahBailey-Zu of FF <0,
Unfortunately, I'd have to lie to get hired on to flip burgers =/ The last time I was out of work long enough to apply for store clerk jobs etc I was rejected for all of them because I was over qualified.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
:(
- .LAG liked that
Good luck in your search, Tina. Any company would be fortunate to hire you.
- Anne Bouey
Good luck, Tina! I've been there a few times. :-(
- Kol Tregaskes
Details of Unemployment: Is there a 3-month or 6-month extension available? When I first filed unemployment, I screwed up. I didn't realize there might be extensions. Also, you have to work X months out of Y months after your unemployment ends to get more unemployment.
- Mitchell Tsai
In SC it's 13 weeks with a 13 week extension, but there might be a program for an additional 26 weeks at this point (not sure on that one yet). The working X months out of Y is the amount of time you worked before you were unemployed and not after (at least, that's the way it is here).
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Yep, I was shocked to find that I was "over-qualified" to be the "fry guy" or even a bleeping "banquet server".
- Mathew A. Koeneker
In SC, how do they figure out what to pay you? In CA, I think they pick the highest quarter out of the 3 months ago - 15 months ago (or something like that).
- Mitchell Tsai
Good luck Tina. You're smart AND you've got 'street sense'. A great combination for any company. Don't get discouraged ..... We're all rootin' for ya!
- Charlie Anzman
Good luck... :(
- rowlikeagirl
Mitchell, in SC they take your highest quarter out of the past 18 months, not including the last 3 months of work, and will pay up to 50% of your earnings up to a rather low cap.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
oh - sorry about that. looking for a new job IS a full time task. shout out if we can help in any way
- Sofia @ SoMaFusion
Thanks Sofia, I appreciate it. I'm going to post a text version of my resume once I get it settled to solicit some feedback and edits. Between the jetlag and stress levels, my spelling isn't all that great right now!
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Tina, If you don't already make sure you have a .pdf version of your resume. Bots are starting to crawl those.
- Melanie Reed
Obviously... \o, I reach out, just get it done! Let me wake ya body and soul, have that job back! 9)
- ElijahBailey-Zu of FF <0,
Well - let us know, 1000 friendfeed eyes are better than one :-)
- Sofia @ SoMaFusion
"Silly to proclaim the death of RSS while instead using technologies that rely on RSS." Yeah. http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archive...
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- Dave Winer
"Electricity is dead. I have toast every morning with my eggs."
- Dave Winer
We don't need farms, I get my fruit at the super market. (Actual statement by someone that said we didn't need more water in the Central Valley. It works here.)
- Rob Fahrni
don't need electric for toast and eggs ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
I love the "X is Dead" linkbait tactic. Just need to find the next thing to proclaim dead. How about Free? e.g. "Free is Dead"? or "The Long Tail is Dead"? or "The Black Swan is Dead"? or "The Tipping Point is Dead"? Mmmm...tasty.
- Elliott Ng
Who cares if consumers use the technology, it is still a vital link from source to consumer.
- Gary Walter (gwalter)
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- Martha
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- Myrna
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- Emma
I whole heartedly agree with Emma...Myrna, your support has been wonderful and it means the world to us to receive that...thank you so much! <3
- Live4Emma (L4S)
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Average Home Price in Detroit Falls to $11,596 Monthly House Payment Would Be $51.23 - http://mjperry.blogspot.com/2009...
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- John E. Bredehoft
Also see http://ff.im/6YoXz "Photos of Detroit's "Feral" Houses"
- Alex Scrivener
If you had about 100 friends to all buy adjoining property, that could be workable. If they were all martial arts experts.
- Spidra Webster
This isn't saying that if you search, you can find studio condos for 12K, rather that is the average of all homes sold. How crazy is that?
- Alex Scrivener
"How to get free access to JSTOR « EMOTIONALLY SPEAKING…" http://vikasgupta.wordpress.com/2009...
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The most far-out academic blurb I've read all week - http://sunypress.edu/details...
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“If Stephen Hawking Lived in England” and Other Great Points the Left Doesn’t Want You to Know - http://www.commondreams.org/print...
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- MikeAmundsen
The only "death panel" is the one hosted by insurance companies (Guardian Article) http://www.guardian.co.uk/society...
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I was pretty sure they had to be under an elevated area...
- Spidra Webster
Wow, I always thought they sat on the floor, too.
- Trish R
I read something somewhere recently about how Henson pioneered this kind of puppeteering.
- cecily
Can you imagine how tired your arm - the one you hold up in the air - would be at the end of a show?
- Amy℠
isn't there a threat of passing out from holding your arms up like that for lengthy periods of time?
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I just spoke with FriendFeed cofounder Paul Buchheit. Did you know that he promised family that FriendFeed would continue? More:
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He told me they messed up by not communicating better last week. The deal happened so fast that they didn't pay attention to everything.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
I like how this is starting
- Robert DeBord
o0o0o0
- Mark
Promises ?
- johnpiercy
as its own service?
- Lee
you are the one who keeps proclaiming its death
- Mark
That's what Compaq said when they purchased DEC. (for those of you old enough to remember)
- RobinDotNet
A promise is not a guarantee.
- Amit Morson
Such a tease, Robert. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
More smoke-blowing. I don't care of Paul swore on the graves of his ancestors. Actions speak louder than words. Some vague promise to a group of people I'm excluded from doesn't do much to assuage my unease.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Akiva, you're right, but it's not smoke.
- Louis Gray
Okay, Louis, true. I retract that first sentence. The rest of it, however, I'm sticking by.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Akiva: well I feel a lot better about things today.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Continue just as it is? Or with key changes?
- Karma Martell
I would expect them to post more on this topic soon - on their personal blogs.
- Louis Gray
If that's what Paul wants to promise us, he needs to release some kind of official statement, not send a message through Robert.
- Rochelle
Soon.
- Louis Gray
I bet you as part of the contract, its in there not to shut this down
- Stephen Pickering
keeping my hopes up. but i do remember working at a few radio stations that were bought, we'd get a memo saying 'the format is not going to change' about three weeks before we switched to spanish. i think there is just too much here for ff to vanish. keep the dream alive!
- michael sean wright
Rochelle: there are too many unknowns to make a definitive statement yet.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
How can he when it`s lost all of its autonomy? Supplanted by Facebook, bought outright no?
- sofarsoShawn
Robert, like you said, one can hope. However both of us know how corporates work and it takes one small decision from share holders to close down the service, no matter what.
- Nir Ben Yona
It couldve been part of the deal not to let the site die
- Stephen Pickering
They want to get to Facebook and get those unknowns nailed down first.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Holden and Rochelle, etc., let's be patient. If you see the post I put up last night and add Robert's comments here, we should be feeling a lot better today than we did on Monday.
- Louis Gray
Robert, all right. Well, after my initial freak-out over this, I've gone into complete wait-and-see mode. More of these vague promises and 'coming soon' messages don't really do much for me. When someone say something definitive, then I'll be there to consume it. The rest of this just doesn't add up for much.
- Akiva Moskovitz
That was a great post Louis
- Stephen Pickering
Thanks, Stephen. I thought it was important.
- Louis Gray
Akiva, exactly, waiting for official word.
- Kol Tregaskes
Nir: the way it was told to me contractually it can't be closed down anytime soon.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
I hope they don't change it so you have to have a Facebook account to use it. I have one, but share it with very few; I use Twitter and FF for everyone. I want to be able to use it the way I do now.
- RobinDotNet
Like any takeover/merger, some details just take time to work out. Hopefully FF can stay around in some form and help make FB better. We'll just have to wait and see. Thanks, Robert, for the info.
- Mark Edwards
I agree, we haven`t seen anything substantive in the way of contract etc but fingers crossed.
- sofarsoShawn
But doesn't mean it won't be shutdown at some point?
- Kol Tregaskes
And, Louis, I didn't see your post from last night but I'll read it as soon as I get back from the store.
- Akiva Moskovitz
was Pownce a bit like Friendfeed? I never used it
- Mark
I can't get my hopes up when Facebook is in the picture. :-(
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
I am very happy to hear that! I hope it gets bigger than Twitter. It's a much better service.
- Sam Guzman
Stable Door and Horse comes to mind.
- Kevin J Hatton
The fact that the FF folks haven't yet said "This is how we want it, so this is how it's going to be" is just evidence that they don't have the final say on the matter. If it's subject to some additional authority/approval, nothing is certain at this point.
- Ken Sheppardson
Kol: it won't be shut down anytime soon. He was quite clear about that.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Kol, the truth is they work for Facebook now, and therefore, FriendFeed can/will change, and it may not change 100% how you and I want. It may be part of Facebook's site later, and it may not. But Facebook is changing from what we know of it now to something new where they overlap.
- Louis Gray
In other words that was in the contract. Makes sense, since they were hesitant anyway
- Stephen Pickering
Robert, OK but maybe at some point though.
- Kol Tregaskes
I sure would like it if FF continued indefinitely.
- Jason Nunnelley
Kol: nothing in life is guaranteed.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Patience is a good thing. That said, if FriendFeed wasn't growing at a rate much higher than it has been, something would have to change. You don't bottle up such talent and experience and have it work on a product that was losing.
- Louis Gray
Robert, What about death and taxes?
- RobinDotNet
Good to hear. I am sure they will take time to decide what exactly to do with FF. How to integrate them together. What to do etc. FF the R&D for FB I think it could be
- Robert Anderson
Robert, true. All a bit vague still though.
- Kol Tregaskes
Scoble: encourage Facebook to keep FriendFeed as a premium brand. Let them tie it to Facebook data or whatever, but keep the system separate.
- Gary
Louis, right, this gives them legitimacy and exposure
- Stephen Pickering
Kol... if they wanted to grow they way they "deserved" to grow, this place would have changed underneath your feet to something you might hate. This is one way to put real capital and people behind the site as it is now.
- Louis Gray
So what? Do they continue try to grow friendfeed as an individual product? Or do they just leave it alive for those of us who actually use it?
- Sam Guzman
If this thing grows by leaps and bounds, FB is not going to close it
- Stephen Pickering
Mark: anytime a blogger says something is dead ALL that means is that it is less interesting than yesterday.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Over time, we will learn, Sam. It's a classical marketing/engineering decision. Do you build for the current user base, or the potential user base? With change. some were bound to leave anyway.
- Louis Gray
Louis, not arguing that at all. My point was about shutting it down or not. I'm at the wait-and-see stage, waiting for more news from FF.
- Kol Tregaskes
And any time I write a headline that says it's NOT dead... maybe I know what I'm talking about. :)
- Louis Gray
But this service grows more useful the more users there are
- Stephen Pickering
Something needs to happen. Twitter is useless now - maybe a new denial of service attack. I would love to see the Friendfeed technology spread to the mass user base that Facebook has.
- Frode Stenstrøm
Yeah, I understand. Maybe some of the extra publicity from the acquisition will lead to an increase in users...curious people signing up to see what it's all about.
- Sam Guzman
Well, at least he acknowledged they messed up.
- Rodfather
oh sweet, I just spent ages adding friendfeed people, setting up privacy and setting up FF to stream to my FB....now this might be a waste of time?
- Franz Sittampalam
from IM
Frode: that was what Paul told me too. He wants the tech here to be used by everyone.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
I don't understand why Google didn't buy it instead.
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Rod, FriendFeed has no PR or Marketing. Maybe if they did, this would have been handled differently. Some things come naturally, and others are hard. But I bet you will see a lot more soon.
- Louis Gray
I've heard the same from another founder, Robert.
- Anne Bouey
Franz, no official word, just wait for an announcement from FF.
- Kol Tregaskes
They didn't want to work for google again.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Makes you wonder about a due diligence ckecklist and the speed of getting this deal done
- courtney benson
Kinda why they left. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Right, look at Google Reader. They don't know how to do social
- Stephen Pickering
It's all wonky and hard to understand
- Stephen Pickering
But GR is going in that direction.
- Kol Tregaskes
Companies come and companies go. They can go by closing their doors or by being acquired. Only time will tell whether FriendFeed has come and gone.
- Jeff Sayre
Google Reader is nothing like FF. No one really uses the social features.
- Sam Guzman
GR is trying, but its all wonky and totally un understandable
- Stephen Pickering
Oh. I just don't trust Facebook at all and can barely stand using it after being here.
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Jannifer, I think we have to look beyond the caricatures of people like Zuckerberg, and recognize that he too may want the same things we do. Facebook is growing up and I bet FriendFeed and its team is a big part of that.
- Louis Gray
Louis, hope so.
- Kol Tregaskes
courtney: Paul talked about that too. He said once the team made the decision they knew it had to be closed overnight to prevent it from leaking.
- Robert Scoble
Louis I think its a perfect marriage, genius engineers + genius Marketers
- Stephen Pickering
Real real time would be awesome in Facebook. I really hope it comes soon.
- Sam Guzman
Well, he didn't quite say "prevent it from leaking" but he said "it's important to do it all at once." I knew what he meant, though, that it had to be done fast to keep things from getting crazy, like they do once decisions like this get taken into public sphere.
- Robert Scoble
I am sure paul is truthful in that he would like for it to go that way, but this is a M&A situation, and even if it is written into the agreement, there are a million ways around it. At the end of the day, shareholders make the rules in a majority vote. If ff isn't integrated in fb somehow, I fail to see how it benefits fb.
- Erik Boles
from iPhone
Kol: Paul was emphatic that Facebook is a far more interesting company at this time in both company's history.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: Somehow this doesn't sound too convincing. If Friendfeed has been losing a LOT of regular users because of their deal with Facebook, they'd be concerned. Friendfeed is likely to get you to speak on their behalf, since you are their most popular user. Maybe Paul is trying to convince you, so that he can indirectly convince others too. That might save an early end to Friendfeed brought on by the rapid loss of users.
- K N Ajit Narayan
I totally agree with Paul, by the way. Facebook is a much more interesting company to join right now than Google is.
- Robert Scoble
Facebook = Microsoft 2.0
- scott anderson
Robert: Did he mention anything about Mashable reporting an acquisition had been talked about since `07?
- sofarsoShawn
YAY! thanks Scoble for letting us know - i feel alot better today!
- Chris Clayton
Hey, Microsoft had a decent run
- Stephen Pickering
Louis: yeah, Zuckerberg is a lot smarter and a lot more down to earth than most of the press gives him credit for. He's always been straight up with me. Much better than other companies have treated me.
- Robert Scoble
And that's even including getting kicked off of Facebook for 24 hours.
- Robert Scoble
@ Scott, LOL Facebook = Microsoft 2.0! I see your point, but it far surpasses Microsoft Live attempt at a social network.
- Nakeva Corothers
Erik: technologies that have great audiences don't get killed. If anything will kill it, it will be us. By leaving.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, cool. Well if they can ditch a lot of their annoying features, like this FB Lite might be, then I might be interested in moving over with all the FF features implemented but I just can't work with FB in it's currently state. I had another go this weekend and still didn't like it. But I'd be even happier if FF stayed here. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
this is gonna be an interesting story to follow for sure. For now I am just using friendfeed the way I have been and see what comes out down the road. life is about changes.
- (jeff)isageek
sofarsoShawn: I don't know what you're talking about regarding Mashable.
- Robert Scoble
Maybe I missed it earlier in this thread but why can't they just come out and say something directly to the community? Obviously a lot of people are concerned and anxious about it... Why do we have to hear second-hand? And why has it all been so vague? No news is not necessarily good news in cases like this.
- Fa La La La Lindsay
Robert, Leo called himself Leo Scoble today because he deleted his 5000 FB friends and moved them over to his fan page
- Stephen Pickering
jeff: yeah. Visiting Facebook is going to get more interesting. He also said that the first month at Facebook (which starts Monday) will be all about learning about Facebook's code. So, no new features will come quickly.
- Robert Scoble
Ok. I hope Facebook changes a LOT so it's more tolerable. Although I don't like it, I need to set up a good Facebook page for business so I can remain competitive.
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
I hope they do right by you. You brought them to the party. I hope that gets recognized somehow monetarily.
- Jim Posner
Saying that it might be shut down at some point doesn't tell us anything new, though; after all, any site might be shut down at some point due to going out of business etc.
- Tristan Seligmann
When anything comes out of this it was always going to be long term.
- Kol Tregaskes
Can i just add - Paul never said friendfeed was going to die in the first place... instead they said the complete opposite - "FriendFeed.com will continue to operate normally. We're still figuring out our longer-term plans for the product with the Facebook team."
- Chris Clayton
I'm not sure why everyone dislikes Facebook. What's wrong with it?
- Sam Guzman
sofarsoShawn, yes, Facebook had been talking to FriendFeed since 2007.
- Louis Gray
Lindsay, I bet the FriendFeed team has a very busy week and maybe you hear from them on all this soon.
- Louis Gray
Robert: "technologies that have great audiences don't get killed..." oh, come on, you know better than that! My dad worked at IBM so I've been seeing tech companies kill great stuff that their customers liked for most of my life!!!!
- Fred Davis
Jim, Scoble has gotten no money from FriendFeed (nor have I). Neither one of us expects to, as that would change the relationship.
- Louis Gray
He said FF would continue operating normally "for now". That was what freaked people out. But I'm glad to hear that Paul and company have plans to keep the service running for the foreseeable future. I wouldn't want to wake up one morning and find my favorite service was shut down.
- Jason Huebel
Fred, right, the Innovators Dilemma, but in this case its cost of running a website is halving every year
- Stephen Pickering
Louis: yes, but Paul told me that when I last was in the office they hadn't yet decided to go to Facebook. Everything happened in the past two weeks. I think you even walked in on one of their key decision points. He said they worked all weekend long on the agreement.
- Robert Scoble
Fred: nothing in life is guaranteed, yeah, you're right. But there's no business reason to turn this off anytime soon. If we all leave there will be.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: e.g., consumer company changes focus to biz or gets acquired... new company direction leads to consumer products getting killed despite popularity... that's just one of many ways that good tech gets killed all the time!!!
- Fred Davis
No disagreement on that at all, Robert. I know I walked in on something big, and that was my mistake for not calling ahead.
- Louis Gray
Seems their valuation stood on Roberts shoulders to some degree. At the least, a public thanks would have been nice.
- Jim Posner
Jason: i know, thats what got me freaked out too - i just thought i would add it in incase anyone missed it :) and because im a little bored! lol
- Chris Clayton
If FF were Twitter, we'd be screaming bloody blue murder about how they don't "get" user communication, etc., etc.
- Chris Baskind
Fred, can you give any examples? Any software I used to use that is no longer available was replaced with something better.
- RobinDotNet
No business reason that WE understand... 'cuz we don;t go to Facebook board meetings ;-) Facebook may have their own agenda... in fact, I assume they do...
- Fred Davis
Jim: I do this because I love it, not because I expect thanks or goodies.
- Robert Scoble
Why even bring this up if they can't talk about it? Nothing has changed just more innuendo and smoke and mirrors and a lot of 'what ifs'. Wake me when there's something concrete.
- Derrick
Robert: when you talk to paul next, can you push him into doing a public announcement on it all? Just give him a nudge in the right direction! :)
- Chris Clayton
RobinDotNet... god, too many to count! First one I was bummed about was in '85 when Musicworks was the best MIDI program on the Mac... got acquired by some jerky game company that decided it wasn't a game and stranded all the users! Yeah, eventually new better stuff came along... but that didn't do the users of the current any good at that time...
- Fred Davis
Derrick: sorry, I totally disagree. I didn't know that contractually they can't kill the service anytime soon.
- Robert Scoble
Derrick, there is more than smoke.
- Louis Gray
It makes sense, they had leverage to make that deal
- Stephen Pickering
Fred -- Okay, so that was one that was 24 years ago. Have any more recent examples? If you can't think of any, then they obviously weren't that important.
- RobinDotNet
Because they were hesitant, they had the leverage to make that part of the deal. Makes total sense
- Stephen Pickering
Um, apple buys leading music sequencing package and kills of PC version because, um, they want to force you to use a mac... come on, the list is endless!!! Companies screw customers by killing good products for their own reasons all the time....
- Fred Davis
Sorry, things are moving fast in this thread. There's a contractual obligation on FB's part to keep FF running?
- Jason Huebel
Fred, you keep saying the list is endless, but the only one you can name is one that came out about 2 years after the 1st Mac, 24 years ago. I'm just saying....
- RobinDotNet
Fred, but what if part of the deal was not to kill it?
- Stephen Pickering
This whole "Friendfeed is dead" mantra is, has, and always will be nothing more than an attempt to get attention. Friendfeed is successful and Facebook would never do anything to destroy that.
- Paul L. McCord Jr.
Derrick: believe me, Louis and I have been talking and concerned about the messaging coming out of this deal more than anyone. We both invested a lot of our time/careers here. Louis has been talking with the team too and that's where his post came from yesterday. I suggest you read it and read between the lines too.
- Robert Scoble
Understand Robert, Really not about your motivation, just good manners in my opinion for Friendfeed to thank you publically. Maybe they have and I missed it. I think you did more for promoting the service than the founders.
- Jim Posner
now, what facebook decides to do with friendfeed... who knows... Yahoo kept Flickr going... so far... but that seems like the exception... no one's really using jabber any more, but it lives on in the upcoming Wave and as XMPP at Google...
- Fred Davis
agreed scoble promoted the service in a big way
- Franz Sittampalam
from IM
Jim: thanks, appreciate it. Paul did thank me in the interview I did with him right after the announcement was made.
- Robert Scoble
If there is a contractual obligation on FB's part to keep FF running, the obvious question is what does this contract state and does it give a duration. Hopefully we'll hear more later.
- Kol Tregaskes
Why? What would be the point? I respect you two enough and all that you do in the world of social media and that's fine. I want a place I can converse, post my pictures, air my gripes, and continue to establish the friends I've made via Friendfeed. Will I be able to do that or not? I'm so tired of the conjecture. Some of us, are just people who love the service and more than anything, very simply, we just want to be able to utilize it.
- Derrick
Kol: I call it the "Paul is sleeping on the couch for a month" clause. ;-)
- Robert Scoble
LOL, Robert.
- Kol Tregaskes
For a company like Facebook, I would imagine that the consolidation of branding advantage would lead me to suspect that even if Friendfeed is kept going in some way, it will be re-branded as Facebook... just like Longs, Wamu, and Wells Fargo are going through right in Facebook's backyard.
- Fred Davis
Derrick, this is the place to do that. :)
- Louis Gray
"For now". ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Throws sheep at Kol
- Louis Gray
Hehe, Louis.
- Kol Tregaskes
The other main issue I have is that, now we are creating content for Facebook. Facebook owns our data. For some reason I didn't mind Paul and his team, they were blacksheep. If I wanted to make Facebook richer I would type in Facebook in the URL. I dont want to make Facebook richer.
- Robert Higgins
What are the alternatives to FF? Isn't there Streamy, Plurk, SocialThing?
- Eric
Louis, I'll be counting sheep soon, need sleep. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
@Eric, we've been evaluating alternatives in the CloneFeed/OpenFF room. None of them really come anywhere close to what FF offers.
- Jason Huebel
Eric, none of those services are really similar. SocialThing is closest, but FF is still quite a bit different.
- Sam Guzman
Of course, since I'm hoping Grabbit will replace Friendfeed for most people, I'm more than a little biased, and that makes me care a lot less about what happens to Friendfeed... even though I love the service, and hope Facebook keeps it going. We're already planning to support Friendfeed in Grabbit, and the new Friendfeed API is awesome, so who knows what the extent of the disruption...
more...
- Fred Davis
So the word now is that FF will be around for a while AND Paul's mentioned the possibility that parts of FF might be open sourced. Any idea what parts?
- Jason Huebel
Sam, I know there is something. I am upset, because I wanted to buy FF someday! :)
- Eric
There has to be an alternative.
- Eric
Jason: too early to know that for sure. I'd start with the API. From what my friends are telling me who are good developers the API is actually very well thought out.
- Robert Scoble
Eric: Not really. Make one.
- Sam Guzman
There was an alternative, but I think it shut down.
- Eric
There is no need to replace FriendFeed. That there are options to decentralize our info is great, but I'm not going anywhere.
- Louis Gray
It was called SocialThing.
- Eric
Fred: I just don't like Facebook's service for WHAT I DO. For my wife? It's freaking awesome. And the execs there have always treated me very well (Zuckerberg walked around Davos with me, while every other journalist was drooling over the opportunity to do that -- he's a lot nicer and smarter than most people give him credit for).
- Robert Scoble
SocialThing got bought by AOL, and it wasn't as good as FF anyway. You could see people's activity, but there was no real interaction. FF is what it is because of the interaction.
- Sam Guzman
Eric & Jason: my new web thingie Grabbit, will do everything Friendfeed does and more, so much more... it's still in alpha, and the beta won't be out until next month... but already the alpha features better Facebook and integration than Friendfeed, IMHO... so, check out grabbit.net and ask to be on the beta list, and we'll keep you posted...
- Fred Davis
@Louis, I'm not going anywhere either. But this acquisition not only scared people that FF might go away but also that their data would go with it. So there is /some/ need for alternatives.
- Jason Huebel
It was called Rejaw, and it was shut down.
- Eric
Fred: can't wait to see more about Grabbit.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: Hey dude, I TOTALLY agree with you about Facebook! I've been telling people for a while that I think Facebook is in the process of Yahoo-ing themselves... and that ain't no compliment!
- Fred Davis
FriendFeed family or real family?
- Mona Nomura
FF is crazy to sell. They should've sold to Google, what were they thinking?
- Eric
I think someone needs to create a web dashboard like FF, but that somehow integrates e-mail.
- Sam Guzman
louis i agree with you. i am not going anywhere either. this is the place i love and think is awesome
- (jeff)isageek
Robert, is Paul referencing his FriendFeed family or real family? (not expanding thread - too long)
- Mona Nomura
Mona: real family AND FriendFeed family. They are one and the same if you look at it the right way.
- Robert Scoble
Sam: what do you mean "intergrate email" friendfeed already has email features so it depends on what you mean...
- Chris Clayton
Same here, Jeff. If FF is still around I'm not budging. It it goes FB on us then it's bye-bye.
- Kol Tregaskes
Google Wave is like FF?
- Eric
Sam, got that in Grabbit... email, RSS, blog alerts, news alerts, and more... plus the coolest friend management stuff to help you sort all that out, not just the messages, updates, and alerts...
- Fred Davis
Mona: if you want me to do something for you, talk Maryam into it first. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Fred: Then I am really excited to try it.
- Sam Guzman
Eric: just like the others you mentioned, it has 1 or 2 similar features, but completely different!
- Chris Clayton
and twitter, facebook, friendfeed, etc., of course... we're starting a signup on grabbit.net...
- Fred Davis
I used to use FeedEachOther which was like FF.
- Eric
Chris: Like the friendfeed stream, you could login and see all your friend's activity, but also see your latest e-mails (Could be easily accessed with a sidebar link, like direct messages). By commenting on an e-mail, you could reply. Just like FF direct messages, but it would send a real e-mail response. Does that make sense?
- Sam Guzman
Now there is Google Reader.
- Eric
Google reader is improving, but still has a long way to go. On the social side.
- Bluesun 2600
That's the one thing I've always liked about FriendFeed - the founders (and staff) interacts with the community, as do their family members. The community members were treated like family, too. :) Whatever which way, hopefully Facebook will integrate FriendFeed's functions to carry on the "feel" over there as well. Personally, I have the more the merrier approach! BTW see you Thursday, Robert! Gnomedex sold out!
- Mona Nomura
I'm not up to speed with this discussion, but FB must have bought FF to merge FF tech into FB. FF for everybody, not just Scoble and tech friends.
- Zato Gibson
...would continue as independant application or as zombie inside "failbook"? ;-/
- Claude LaFrenière
Sam: i was actually looking for a way to have the subjects of my emails show up on my friendfeed dashboard awhile ago - do you mean like that? Because that would be awesome!
- Chris Clayton
i would love to see friendfeed get a killer mobile app...maybe improve on fftogo a little more
- (jeff)isageek
Google Reader is my current alternative btw. I've found the share box today and now using it like FF's share box. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Google Reader is great, but it's not built to replace FriendFeed. It's not an aggregator, for one.
- Louis Gray
one thing is I don't think you can share images from pages as easily as FF's share.
- Bluesun 2600
Life2front has anyone heard of it?
- Eric
Chris: Yes, maybe have a subject show up in your feed, and clicking would expand to reveal the full e-mail. Reply's could be generated by commenting on the e-mail. I'm sure FF won't integrate this, but I'm just throwing it out there. It's something I wish some social service would integrate. Either that, or make e-mail inboxes more social. Kind of like Yahoo e-mails new features, but better executed. How cool would it be to login to your e-mail and be greeted by a FF like social stream.
- Sam Guzman
i think you can look at two services that were bought up and never really changed all this time in flickr and delicous so hey maybe friendfeed stays around as it is...maybe just integrates a bit more or something with facebook
- (jeff)isageek
Well you can put your services into a folder then create a bundle and share it. But no not quite like FF. It lacks a lot of features and Comments view is awful.
- Kol Tregaskes
and look how long google had grand central before they really even started doing anything with it.
- (jeff)isageek
I guess what I'm saying is, don't keep e-mail so separate from the rest of your online social activity. It should be more integrated than it is now, in my opinion. Why not include it in a service like FF?
- Sam Guzman
So Friendfeed stays on as a side project instead of being abandoned. Does that really make a difference in the grand scheme of things? The service isn't going to grow by leaps and bounds either in audience or functionality now. I guess a slow death is easier for people to deal with than a quick one.
- Dare Obasanjo
Sam: i love that idea... email services dont have RSS (not that i can find anyway) i was looking for 5 hours for one afew months ago so i could put it in a private group to show up on my FF stream. but i ended up being dissapointed!
- Chris Clayton
I hope we all converge over to Google Wave and that some clever sod codes a FF-type service built on the Wave protocol. :-) GWave is great fun to use!
- Kol Tregaskes
Kol: are you going to send me a download link? :P im still waiting for it from the 'sneak peek' survey i filled out AGES ago!
- Chris Clayton
Whhhhhhat how`d you try it already?
- sofarsoShawn
Dare: there are lots of things that don't get many new features but are still very popular. FriendFeed still has way more features and is better technology than anything else I've seen in the marketplace. Maybe someone will eclipse it, but that won't happen soon and, yes, a slow death is definitely better than a quick one. Why? Cause you can make plans and change your behavior.
- Robert Scoble
Download link for GWave? Don't work like that. ;-) Just wait until 30th September, Chris. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Chris, yeah, and I think what I'm describing would take more than just RSS integration. But Kol is right, maybe Google Wave will be the answer :) I can't wait to try it! Especially if other services can be integrated like in FF.
- Sam Guzman
Kol: but september is too long to wait :( blame scoble for making me a social media addict! :)
- Chris Clayton
Hehe, it will fly by.
- Kol Tregaskes
Robert: if this is just about whether they'll shut off the servers or not then why is this even causing hubbub? Given the complaining of a vocal set of users I'm sure that even if they planned to shut off the site, it'll keep going for a while. However it seems obvious that all their innovative ideas and day time hacking should be filled with innovating on Facebook not here.
- Dare Obasanjo
As both Louis and I have said - these guys have been nothing but actions thus far and haven't let us down. I see nothing changing from that yet, so I suggest everyone continue that trust. They have done nothing to break that trust yet. And like I wrote about, Facebook needs them as much as they need Facebook - Facebook wants to change into something more of what FriendFeed is, from what I've seen and read.
- Jesse Stay
It's not about shutting the servers off for some (most?) folks, it's a matter of how you reconcile FriendFeed and Facebook's views on content licensing, ownership, and privacy; whether we'll continue to see innovation at a pace faster than what Facebook's user base has historically been comfortable with; and whether we'll see a continuation of Friendfeed's openness towards third party developers and the open source community.
- Ken Sheppardson
And as I've said over and over again, Jesse, I think most of us trust the FriendFeed folks as individuals, but that trust doesn't necessarily transfer to Facebook as an institution.
- Ken Sheppardson
I second Ken. Zuckerbergs plans/dreams are also a kind of wild-card here. They could be favorable to us FriendFeed users, or not. Up till now, Zuckerberg hasn't done much favorable for me. That sucks. I wish it were different.
- Meryn Stol
Say what you want about Facebook but Zuckerberg and/or Facebook has revolutionized the Internet by forcing people to be real. (not real-time) It even reflects on Youtube - the commenters aren't as moronic as they were say three years ago, since more and more people are using their real names and identities.
- Mona Nomura
It's always like this and it never turns out the way Paul says it will, though I believe his intentions are honorable. At some point you no longer work for the old company and you start working for the new one. My guess is this has already happened. Soon people from the old team will have their new assignments, and then one day the server will go down. They'll bring it back up, but...
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- Dave Winer
Damn, Dave. And I thought that *I* was a cynic.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Akiva, I've been through it myself, and been in Paul's position.
- Dave Winer
Dave, I don't doubt that at all. It's just amazing from my perspective to see it put so honestly. Well put, sir.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Only when I was in Paul's position, I had a simpler situation cause we were developing shrinkwrap software and our mission was supposedly unchanged. We didn't have servers that had to be kept up 24-by-7. Even so, six months after the merger, the whole thing was turned upside down and the team had all-new priorities and tons of people had left, including the top guy (me!). I would get...
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- Dave Winer
Well put, Mona!
- Jesse Stay
Dave, I expect it to change, but I also expect that Facebook is doing this for not just the team they just acquired. I think Facebook really wants this technology.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse, that may be true but they'll want it for Facebook. And if you're a fan of Facebook, that's great, Facebook's going to get better. But if you're not? If you're a a fan of FriendFeed? Then all you're going to end up with is a bastardized FriendFeed with lots of dipshit apps.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Jesse: I'm not so sure. The technology will need to be rebuilt for the Facebook infrastructure. That's one reason why Paul doesn't have good answers for us yet. He said he needs a few weeks to really dig into Facebook's code base before he even has a good idea of where he and the FriendFeed'ers can really add value.
- Robert Scoble
Akiva, I'm a fan of both. And you know you can ignore those apps - that's not something you can do on FriendFeed or Twitter. FriendFeed would have gotten just as bad as it grew.
- Jesse Stay
Dave: thinking back on why I joined FriendFeed, it was because I expected that the team would do something interesting in the future. That reason has now been fulfilled and now that these guys are at Facebook it'll be interesting to see what they do.
- Robert Scoble
Jesse, where is the button to ignore the apps? I want to ignore all of them, all the time. Instead, I have to click hide on every single bloody one of them and still get notifications from people wanting me to add apps. I'd tolerate Facebook better if there was a magic "no apps, ever" button.
- Rochelle
Somewhat selfishly, I have just gained a whole load of new friends on Fb, here and on Google Reader and have learned loads about sharing and subscribing for which I thank you all :-) I will just watch and wait now, but I do agree that if everyone dashes off somewhere else and deserts FF, it could well hasten its demise. Best to try and use all the services and interlink them if we can.
- Julia Ault
Rochelle: I want you to install the FriendFeed app. :)
- Louis Gray
I am sure that FB was not happy if FF was going into MS hands or Google hands ,they bought it and now they will be the most important live and live search player on top of the best social community,,I am happy for them and for us as well ,they will keep our home and thats great news
- Johni Fisher
Jesse, this is true. I guess my real point is—aside from the easy-as-punch Facebook app snarking—that the very philosophies on which each service was built are essentially different. I'm not saying that these divergent ideas can't be unified. I'm just not convinced that they're compatible enough to be integrated without irritating one group and overwhelming the other. I'm sure the...
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- Akiva Moskovitz
Wish I was a millionaire like him :/
- Mark
"I'm just not convinced that they're compatible enough to be integrated without irritating one group and overwhelming the other. " - very well put, Akiva.
- Meryn Stol
Akiva, who says they will become one site? Why not enable the two communities to remain separate if they want, under the Facebook brand? I don't think we know yet what will happen.
- Jesse Stay
Good news because I love friend feed in it's current format.
- Rob Cairns
Robert, yes, we don't know for sure, but then again we don't know for sure - I don't see reason to change too much of our trust until something actually happens. I do know Facebook wants to open up more, while still retaining your right to privacy. The privacy thing is something FriendFeed (or Twitter) doesn't have, and I think would be a welcome addition.
- Jesse Stay
Rochelle, you have to do it either by app, or individual (unless I've missed the option). That said, I would kill for the ability to do that on FriendFeed or Twitter. They don't even have that.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: FriendFeed doesn't have apps, so I'm not sure what exactly you're referring to; if you mean the ability to hide posts aggregated from a particular service, that's already there.
- Tristan Seligmann
Last I checked, Jesse, FriendFeed didn't have MafiaWars or Superpoke.
- Akiva Moskovitz
(If you click on "Hide", and then "hide other items like this one", you get a whole list of options)
- Tristan Seligmann
FriendFeed has a finite number of things to hide ("all items from Bob", "all Flickr posts", etc.). That's much more easy control than the thousands of apps on Facebook. It's like playing whack-a-mole over there. It feels like the more I hide, the more they appear.
- Rochelle
Akiva, Tristan, it's only a matter of time before the auto-dm apps appeared on FriendFeed. So long as FriendFeed grows, they will come. So long as it doesn't grow, it *does* disappear. There's no "hide all from the app that generated this DM" option on FriendFeed.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse, and, with all of the hide options already present on FriendFeed, you don't think the devs would have had the presence of mind to include something similar for any supposed FriendFeed apps?
- Akiva Moskovitz
Akiva, I trust that they'll add that as much as I trust they'll continue to fight for FriendFeed at Facebook.
- Jesse Stay
They don't even need any extra options; you can already hide direct posts based on the application that created them. For example, if you hide this post of Robert's, you'll get the option to hide all posts by iPhone.
- Tristan Seligmann
Jesse, I think no-one doubts that *they* will fight. The question is if they win. They're just employees now.
- Meryn Stol
Again, I'm surprised that my own cynicism—legendary in its own right—is being beaten about the face and neck in this thread.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Meryn, I also know the Facebook team - they're just as competent as FriendFeed's. Their original audience started different than FF's, but they too have to expand.
- Jesse Stay
Holden: engagement.
- Robert Scoble
It's hard for innovators to stop innovating, and for entrepreneurs to lose the total freedom and self-reliance that drives them. Every entrepreneur that I know personally (only a few, alas!) who has sold for the big bucks has eventually gone on to create something else.
- Kathy Fitch
Jesse, as I said earlier, my lack of knowledge on the plans of Zuckerberg is the problem. Do you know Zuckerberg? In the end, he's gonna decide what appears on Facebook or not. Also, it's not so much a matter of competence than it is a matter of vision and taste.
- Meryn Stol
I'm sure the FB engineers are competent.
- Meryn Stol
And wouldn't it be fascinating to have a gander at the kinds of separation agreements folks who leave FB must sign? Almost as interesting as seeing the acquisition agreement in this case.
- Kathy Fitch
It's totally unclear if future conversations we might have on FB will ever be indexable by Google. (or any other search engine) That all depends on Zuckerberg's final say. I can't look in the guy's head.
- Meryn Stol
Sure seems like you're scrambling, Robert, to place yourself in the center of this when you were completely blindsided by the sale. Justs sayin'
- Mattb4rd
Louis, nope! Those are two separate worlds for me and I intend to keep it that way.
- Rochelle
Once you stop owning something you lose the ability to make promises about it. Good intentions or no. One hard headed business decision like FF is not earning its keep or we need the resources elsewhere and it's done. Been on both sides.
- Todd Hoff
The only thing that would make a real difference in this case would be an unambiguous statement from Mark Zuckerberg himself. Let him address the FF community and actually say what he will commit himself to. I suppose he's a man of his word.
- Meryn Stol
Good news. Doin' the right thing!
- Rob Schieber
Yeah sure! Promises Promises!!!
- Jose Luis Santos
Hmm. A whole lot of the sale was in stock options. Takes awhile to get fully vested. The next few years should prove very interesting.
- Kathy Fitch
How can you live up to that promises when you no longer own it?
- John D Reasor
....hmmmm, we got the wrong impression then?
- Mark Essel
Nevermind, I'd feel a helluva lot better with an unattached open social media where I could rely on keeping contacts and connections however weak for as long as I chose to continue using the service.
- Mark Essel
Actions speak louder then words, and the key is the final decision is no longer up to him. I am sure Paul means every word he says I just not sure he is going to be able to keep it.
- Kim Landwehr
I don't expect FF to go away right away. I just expect things will definitely be different. I do hope that FB does improve, but I am also branching out given the sale.
- Kevin Whalen
"Promises are a bourgeois invention and, anyway, they're meant to be broken." [V. I. Lenin quoted from inexact memory] by
- ianf ⌘
@louisgray's »If you see the post I put up last night...« <http://friendfeed.com/scoblei...> If you cared for others to read that post, you'd have included a direct link to it. It's the essence of hypertext, and any "Silicon Valley early adopter, tech geek blogger" worth the name would have done just...
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- ianf ⌘
It would make some business sense to keep FF as some kind of separate site/module, if just to stop another site taking it's place and becoming another competitor.
- Robert Littlejohn
Hi Ian! I get what you are saying, but sometimes, dropping links to my own posts in other people's threads looks like spam. I also believe a good number of people saw it, and know how to get it otherwise. That said, it's right here: http://www.louisgray.com/live...
- Louis Gray
Robert - To say Facebook is more interesting to work for than Google may be a stretch. While Facebook is growing exponentially and has challenges, Google faces HUGE challenges just staying Google ... while exploring new areas of growth. Keeping the index relevant is a big challenge in itself. On the other hand ... the 'FF guys' have worked there already and know how they feel about what direction they wanted to go ... which .. I think ... makes a little more sense?
- Charlie Anzman
Charlie: remember most of this team already worked at Google. Facebook is pre IPO. Google is not. The potential rewards are much larger at Facebook and the potential to have an impact is much larger at Facebook too.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Posting links (references) to one's other posts "looks like spam"? That's news to me, and a lame excuse. In any event, given main difference between worlds of analog and digital publishing being ability in the latter case to refer back to source in unambiguous and granular fashion (rather than, as in analog, to indicate issue, chapter, page, verse, line, etc - if at all), not including...
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- ianf ⌘
ianf, I agree, but it feels like spam when you're doing it. Encourage him nicely.
- Bruce Lewis
i suspect that, if FF were to survive relatively unchanged it will be through an open-source effort. i doubt FF will survive as a stand-alone site w/ Fb paying the freight.
- MikeAmundsen
Why don't the FF founders release an official statement saying how long the site will continue and what we can expect if we stay?
- Tomy Thomson
Keep in mind that despite the best intentions, nearly half of all sincere promises end in divorce.
- April Russo (app103)
Robert: I agree that the technology with great audiences don't get killed off, but the name of the game to the shareholders is money. It makes a ton more sense for facebook to integrate friendfeed into facebook, an already monetizable model, vs. leaving it as a de-coupled technology that has to have a new revenue model built for it.
- Erik Boles
like x1000
- Raphael, Raphael
With so much money still on the table in the form of stock options, there's certainly plenty of motivation to make FB stellar. If FF ends up being treated well, too (for whatever reason--a promise, a warm fuzzy feeling, its potential role in helping to make FB stellar), then I'm all for that.
- Kathy Fitch
There is a way to argue keeping FF going makes sense to FB: The important thing in social software ISN'T the software, it's the people who use it. If the people who use FF are sufficiently different to those on FB, then it could make sense to keep both services. Possibly they may end up using the same software, but have different brands. Think of VW group in cars (SEAT/Skoda/VS/Audi are...
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- Nick Lothian
Interesting thread. I think that Paul has the best intention and he will do everything he can to keep the existing service up. Dave Winer has a good summary of the forces he will have to fight against. Making a Facebook vs. Google vs. Microsoft decision was probably a hard one. I am wondering if Twitter was in the race too...Twitter + Friendfeed could have been a great team to go...
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- Edwin Khodabakchian
Why the outreach now and not earlier in the week? Has something spooked the FF team? Seeing people looking for alternatives, and poking around Google Reader, Streamy, SocialThing, perhaps? Robert said it himself, if people leave here, FF dies, and the team doesn't have a whole lot to sell to FB (yeah, arguably) and that could scotch the whole deal. So I'm just wondering why the outreach now?
- Dominic Jones
ianf: don't you know, links are dead? ;)
- Tristan Seligmann
read it from the begining, I'm happy FF crew is beginning to acknowledge the questions, Dave definitely has a point, but all-in-all I thought death was near, it looks like it gets delayed for some time. The main thing is ppl are still here although reader is the new playground...unfortunately the communication with their team isn't all that good...
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Dobromir, "read [297 more comments] from the begining" is not a good advice for anything, least of all here, in the Kingdom of Perpetual Constant Fragmentary Attention Overload, where realtime fly-by comments are the rule.
- ianf ⌘
Robert, thank you for sharing this info. I hope everyone got the message clearly. Wonderful news!
- Michael Fidler
from iPhone
Ok, I hadn't time to read all the comments on this thread. But this sure sounds promising, and I do trust Robert and Louis when they're saying something. So I'm hopeful:)
- Patrik Johansson
It is not whether Friendfeed lives or dies. It's whether our free-wheeling, anarchic, community-driven approach will be replaced by the bland family-oriented guidelines of Facebook. Will we still be able to chuckle of Asian men on a beach, for example?
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
hey all, we can't return to the past, what happen has already happened, now the question is this one, may a micro community survive inside a large community, the answer is YES, FF community can and may have the same social behaviour it has here, and when move to FB, we need just to preserve our connections, and to maintain the same behaviour. that all, but even ancients tribes don't survive without scarifying some of their tradition.
- abdellah
Will Friend feed just get - morphed into Facebook now? clearly they want to take on Twitter. I noticed that I tryed to remove my Friend feed from facebook recently because less techy friends complained that I take over there Friend feeds...! But I can't... mmmm
- PRBristolco.uk
FaceFeed. Nom nom nom.
- Marlin Forbes
My goodness, there needs to be a way to search comments...I scanned to see if Paul had chimed in, but didn't see that.
- Chad Gesser
Scobe: I hope he does chime in. I think he needs to since you broke that.
- Chad Gesser
Chad: I think he'll say more after he has a little time at Facebook and can give definitive answers as to what the FriendFeed team is going to do there. He told me that will take several weeks.
- Robert Scoble
no i didnt know that
- Chris Nwakalo
if so wonderful news
- Ronald
Facebook is genuinely interested in best in class customer experience. I can't yet envision what features or practices are incorporated or left behind, but it seems a positive move for users. There is always a die-hard loyal following that doesn't want to see their Freind (feed) go away. Heck, I still record The West Wing on Bravo.
- Jeff Marmins
Yeah i sure hope so robert. . i really rather not be on facebook.
- RamirezG
Chad, to aid in scanning, you can do a Ctrl-F (or equivalent) and search the current page for "- Paul Buchheit" and/or install my user script that adds a mini avatar to the beginning of each comment http://friendfeed.com/friendf...
- Micah Wittman
Scoble, why do you think FriendFeed won't get sacrificed by Facebook management? Most sensible thing, to me, is to get FriendFeed integrated as a feature of Facebook, then eliminate the individual brand. Fact is, it's Facebook's decision at this point, unless the FriendFeed guys got something in writing to the contrary (which likely didn't happen). Sometimes you've got to go with your...
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- Jason Nunnelley
Jason: it doesn't really matter. I've been on Facebook all morning and they already have a lot of FriendFeed's features. Soon the rest will be moved over too. And the servers won't get turned off anytime soon, based on conversations with FriendFeed and Facebook. So, for now, use it and be happy. Me? I've already been spreading out my social networking time just in case.
- Robert Scoble
and before he disappears into a part of the web that I can't find.....how do you say his last name? Boo-Kite? Buck-heat? Really, I don't know and I wanna know. Just so I know, You know?
- Morgan Haley
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