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Louis Gray
Just Wishing for Something to Go Mainstream Won't Make It So - http://www.louisgray.com/live...
So far, the commenters on my site _don't_ want Twitter and FriendFeed to go mainstream. Do you want to keep these technologies to yourself? - Louis Gray
I do, I'd say Twitter probably has the best shot right now. FF is still over the head of too many, they dont know (and dont want to know) about rss - sean percival
I really hope with the continuous feature additions and improvements to FriendFeed, it would soon have a universal appeal. There are so many Nay-sayers but I'm behind them 220%. :) As for Twitter - I don't really use it anyway, so it doesn't make a difference. Although I would LOL if they were to start charging monthly fees. ie: Threaded replies are only for premium accounts haha - Mona Nomura
This weekend I excitedly told an engineer-friend (hydrologist) about meeting the "inventor of RSS" last week. And he said "what's that?" -- Bastard. - Brian Hendrickson
I'm with friendfeed. And yes, it should go mainstream ASAP. Many just want to go to friendfeed because "nobody else but you are on there, I know". So that is the real problem. - Ryo / Fuck Facebook
Twitter will go mainstream as people always want to be noticed. Friendfeed has a harder road because it is not about the user, it is about the information. If Friendfeed goes mainstream, it will be in a much different way, like a major research or news tool. - Rob Diana
FF will go mainstream as soon as people realize that it's *not* about the information, it's about the conversation. Twitter in its current form is a megaphone broadcasting system a la FB status updates, without a realistic and understandable method of replying. FF on the other hand not only let's you share information, but creates a method to *discuss* it. It's biggest obstacle for going mainstream is the UI. - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Tina, I mostly agree about the conversation, but the conversation is typically based on the information at this point. I think the amount of information that passes through will be too much for most people until better filters are in place. I admit, I tend to be very pessimistic when it comes to growth and mainstream adoption of most tech. - Rob Diana
I am all for both apps hitting mainstream fast. Both serve excellent online communication needs. Twitter provides broadcasts and quick short replies; whereas FriendFeed provides the ability to share information and generate conversation / feedback regarding that info., which can blossom into an entire community around that topic. Twitter's challenge is stability, scalability and UI. FriendFeed's challenge is search, organization and UI. - Susan Beebe
Rob, I can only base statements on my experience of course, and they're going to be affected by who follows me. With that said, my most engaging conversations on FF have usually been around a topic tossed up as a status update/question, not a link to an external post. Also, unlike FB and TW which offer a one to one conversation model (excepting FB groups), FF automatically offers a one to many conversation model. - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
FriendFeed will go mainstream because it's a better medium than email for sharing links and news. I wrote in detail on this here: http://friendfeed.com/e... - Bruce Lewis from fftogo
couple quick comments: not everything needs to "go mainstream" to be a success, it is ok to fill a niche & some things are not products but rather features best integrated into or augmenting something else - i think friendfeed fits both these criteria (current and future) and i see that as a good thing personally... - mike "glemak" dunn
@Mike - I've been thinking this too lately. What is "a success"? Is Apple a "success". They only have about 5% of the market of computers, yet I think there is a lot more media buzz about Apple unveiling a revised macbook than there is about Dell or HP introducing a revised 1050e or whatever they call them. If you get 1% of Americans using your product, that is 3 million people. That is a lot. - Robert Felty
What is mainstream? 25% of US population? 10% of RSS/tech geeks? 1% of the world? 10% of people who would pay for this service? FF's current UX won't scale to a large population having lots of real conversations here. But it does serve a good niche (or two or three) right now. But what % of the world has/wants to have conversations like this? Mainstream would drive FF to be everything to everyone. Would we (as early adopters) still like it then? - David Lee
I have a radical idea... how about Twitter just finds a way to make some money. Mainstream is great... but completely misses the point... - Brian Roy
I am "mainstream", but I've been on FF for a year as of tomorrow. - Anne Bouey
Has anyone else noticed the push the major media give to some services and not others? How often did Television Programming (news, sitcoms, talk shows) talk about "googling" something; did you ever hear them talk about "yahooing" or "asking" anything? Then it was myspace, myspace, myspace followed by Facebook. Makes me wonder if those who own the media heavily invest and then push their investments. - Internet Strategist
Internet Strategist: media people just want to be cool. It's easy to understand why they push certain stuff. I do the same. I have no investments in anything. - Robert Scoble
Will Twitter and FriendFeed become mere commodities, fed to the masses by media moguls, to sell their product ? Because that is their job. I think Twitter is becoming more mainstream, more noticed and talked about - but not generally understood. How would it be affected by advertising and ten times the traffic? FF will take longer to catch on, even though it is better. Twitter plants seeds that can be grown in FriendFeed. - Chris Loft
frankly i don't think Joe the Plumber is really that interested in such a mass of content/dialogue, Facebook is about as much feed as an average person can handle. FF/Twitter are downright manic for them and they don't have/don't want the mental faculty to deal with the multiple perpetual conversations/topics - it creates more anxiety than fun and if it's not fun it's toast. Neither will get double digit % of the population using them - Bob Sonin
OTOH, is text messaging considered mainstream yet in the U.S.? (I realize we lag way behind the rest of the world in this.) I don't think the "mainstream" can handle more than one technological breakthrough at a time :) I still know people who are even just getting used to using a computer. - Victor Ganata
@Bob I think Twitter is so powerful that it can be used for many different purposes. Imagine a multi-dimensional Twitter with single or more refined services. For local councils, government, media companies, business services, geeks, gossip, etc. Each with their own customised Twitter serving their needs. This is where Twitter will produce an income stream; hiving itself off into customized services, without the noise. - Chris Loft
i dont think it is a "we dont want it to go mainsteam" it is more of a "the technology isnt quite ready for it to go mainsteam, we couldnt handle all our friends and family and colleagues nattering on our feeds, we can barely handle the information flow at the moment". We need better filtering, a better way to have several spheres in parallel on these services. - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
(translating my previous comment in pragmatic speech:) I am happy to have all that crowd happily segragated on facebook sending each other quizzes, i dont want them coming on my FF and twitter. I love them to bits but they are, well, embarrassing! I don't want "what peanut character are you" on my friendfeed, and it will come with the mainstream - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
hmmm, this bubbled up so I re-read it. man, that was a great old post - Sarah Perez
By old you mean 9 weeks, right Sarah? :-) - Louis Gray
Just remember what comes with being mainstream...tons of spammers. - April Russo (app103)
FriendFeed should go mainstream. Despite our selfish desire to want to keep it to ourselves, it is a smarter way for news and information to be disseminated that would benefit all once they are aware of it. - Thomas Hawk
No question, when a service hits critical mass, the conversation will change. Look at YouTube - people are always bemoaning the boorish, illiterate nature of the comments there. Will we stick around when Scoble or Louis pose an interesting question and half the comments are spam and profanity? - Laura Norvig
I don't want FF to go mainstream because then it will probably be blocked at work like FB, Myspace, etc... - Josh Begin
some ppl should think what this service is about: aggregating the feeds of people you trust and like aka friends as in friendfeed :) - Chris Hofmann
@Chris, that can be seen as the basic service, definitely, but the ability to converse about an item is what is giving this site stickiness and added value. At least, IMO. - Laura Norvig
was trying to formulate a point, but then saw that Stupid Ninja said it even better above... so I'll just shut it and move on... - Peter Efland
Duncan Riley
Bacon Salt: How two tech guys created a viral food sensation - http://www.inquisitr.com/2532...
The only thing I haven't done yet is try it. But given they're local it shouldn't be hard to find some - Duncan Riley
ick ick ick, everything should not taste like Bacon - Jennifer Van Grove
maybe not everything, but there are plenty of things that it will go nice with :-) - Duncan Riley
I love the slogan; just waiting for it to appear in the UK - Arthur Guy
I love bacon! I can't think of many meals that wouldn't taste good with a little bacon added... - Brad Nickel
Bacon! - Steve Isaacs
my old man likes to put salt on watermelon. i'll have to send him some of this. - J450N
If you can make it taste like bacon, I'll eat it. (Cue W!cKeD's inappropriate commentary...) - ωαřмaiden, MFA'd poet
Jason: I like bacon, and I like salt on watermelon. I don't think I'd want bacon salt on watermelon, though. - David Worrell
I just recently got some of this.. and so far, I was most impressed with my wife using it with simmering asparagus spears. Delicious! - Phil G
Well Colleen, we all know a little pork makes everything better. ;) - Rev. Dr. W!cKeD Rock
@Duncan: i pinged the founders and asked them to rush a bottle or two to you before you leave town. Try in on corn on the cob. yum - Christian Anderson
It is always interesting to see examples of viral marketing in action. Even though I first thought this was a joke. - ivanandersson
How did I miss this?! - Mona Nomura
Mona - not sure, I even linked a picture of my shaker when I got it: http://friendfeed.com/e... - Phil G
Duncan, I have all three varieties, so swing back by my place on the way back from Seattle. :-) - Louis Gray
Woh; this stuff is kosher?!? I'm going to have to get some now. I'll admit I love bacon. I have some turkey bacon in the fridge right now. - Benjamin Golub
Arthur Guy commented that he'd like to see BaconSalt available in UK. Well now it is, from www.crazy4flavour.co.uk ! - Stu Nutt
Duncan Riley
first guest post from Kyle Brady, and it's a good one. - Duncan Riley
epic. truly epic. whoever wrote this must be amazing. - Kyle Brady
Kyle, they are, epicly slow in liking this post ;-) - Duncan Riley
Duncan: haha true. I'm not a big FF-er, and I usually don't use the in-house comment or "like" systems... I prefer to not put all my eggs in one potentially-collapsible-and-not-reusable-basket. - Kyle Brady
Shey, Jamaican of FF
Yes, the politics on FriendFeed makes me nauseous. But I won't be leaving -- I'll either spend less time here or use http://www.noiseriver.com/login to filter.
On that note, is there a Cleaner NoiseRiver Greasemonkey script? - Shey, Jamaican of FF
thanks for the link. noiseriver seems pretty cool - Valley from NoiseRiver
it's ironic because the people who talk about leaving friendfeed because of the political discussions are the very same people who contribute to the very heated and inflammatory remarks in political discussions. its only when they get called out and get a dose of their own bullshit that they cower and cry about it. just leave if you can't take it. no need for a grand exit - Cee Bee
+2008 @Cee Bee - MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Hiding from viewpoints you disagree with is not going to help your case. One of the huge problems with the America and its media is that you can go all day avoiding dissenting opinions. Watch Bill O and Fox News if you're a conservative, Maddow and Countdown for the libs. Seeking out and listening to "the other side" will make anyone less of a dick. - Jon Anderson
@Jon I'm hiding from all political discussions, not because the viewpoints differ from mine, but because they are senseless, childish, and disrespectful - Shey, Jamaican of FF
@cee I don't know who that was meant for--if anyone in particular--but that's a heavy hitter. Geez. I could be included in that number of political tweeters by talking about Obama, the excessive use of maverick, standing behind senior citizens to vote, and my favorite tweet "whoever the next president is better have an "S" on his t-shirt, but an "O" will do." But noiseriver.com still seems cool. - Valley from NoiseRiver
@shey you're right. some on the info can get kinda ugly. - Valley from NoiseRiver
CeeBee: Shey seems always very mild and measured in his comments. Unless you think something that diverges from your viewpoint is inflammatory ... - Oldengrey (Jay)
Can't fault a guy for wanting to avoid the screed. - Alex Scoble
jay, i'm not talking about shey. he's not leaving nor has he made any official announcement to do so. more importantly, he never puts things out there simply to get a rise out of people nor is he insulting to others. that's some people's m.o. here until they get it flipped right back and end up making an ass of themselves. - Cee Bee
The Hide button is my friend. Otherwise, I'd have ground my teeth so hard, they'd have turned to dust by now. - Akiva Moskovitz
Play whack-a-mole with me and click "hide" on everything related to politics! - Rochelle
in the process of writing a post on the level of political hate here and on twitter - Bastard Operator From FF
I know exactly how you feel. I put a moratorium on discussing politics on FF. It's pointless. - Mattie Kenny
lol - i read this as "the politics of friendfeed" and thought, really i'm not seeing that - then reread the "on" for the ah ha moment - concur shey - mike "glemak" dunn
The Politics of Dancing by the Re-flex? - AJ Kohn
AJ: The Politics of Dancing by Paul van Dyk. - Rochelle
I had started on one, Shey. - Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
I skim by and ignore what I don't find interesting... - Ian May
@Abby it would take a lot more than that, I'm here to stay :) - Shey, Jamaican of FF
I read that as "I'm here to Shey" - Alex Scoble
I like hearing the differing viewpoints and getting to know you all better. - Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
Glad to see you'll be around Shey. FriendFeed isn't the same without you :) - Mike Reynolds
lol +1 Alex! Thanks Mike :) - Shey, Jamaican of FF
Shey, exactly, never understand why people complain that they are seeing things they don't want to see on FriendFeed, there are so many options to filter out that stuff: rooms, friend lists, hie button, search, NoideRiver, etc. - Kol Tregaskes
Robert Scoble
How to measure the SEO benefit of Business Blogging - http://blogging.compendiumblog.com/blog...
Have to work your SEO mojo. - AJ Kohn
Dave Winer
Police: More than 100,000 watch Obama - The Denver Post - http://www.denverpost.com/breakin...
Police: More than 100,000 watch Obama - The Denver Post
"The Obama campaign said it was the largest U.S. crowd to ever attend rally to see the Illinois senator. Obama addressed a crowd in Berlin that was estimated at 200,000." - Dave Winer from Bookmarklet
I love it. I remember being at Ronald Reagan's rally in Silicon Valley back in 1984 and he only had 40,000. - Robert Scoble
That is hella people. - Derrick
Derrick: that is a landslide brewing. I saw it last night at a Silicon Valley concert when the crowd erupted when the camera zoomed in on Neil Young's "Hippies for Obama" pin. - Robert Scoble
@Robert, lets hope so. - Jeff P. Henderson
Scoble: Please stop with this landslide stuff. I think a lot of people hope that you're right, but if people pick up on this landslide thing, there's a chance that they'll feel less compelled to go out and actually vote. - Eric Florenzano
Robert, I'm so giddy, I can't stand it. And never before in history, have I been so involved with the political process. Rallies, monetary donations, volunteering. In these days and times, I feel like I can't afford NOT to. - Derrick
Hold the giddy for the win. The GOP meme about the landslide is intended to mobilize their base. Voter suppression stories are flooding my wires right now, there's still much work to be done. - Karoli
Robert, that was in Silicon Valley. CA has been written off as a Obama state. The real question is if in Ohio or Pennsylvania would the crowd react the same way? - CW™
Chris: walking around a neighborhood in North Carolina showed me that, yes, this is a real landslide. It's happening not just on the elitist coastal states, but nearly everywhere. McCain's home state might not vote for him. Imagine that! - Robert Scoble
While we don't know whether or not it will be a landslide, each of us can help. Urge your family, friends, and your friends friends to vote. Particularly those between 18 - 30. I'm 48, and this is the most important election of my lifetime on many different levels. Urge people to be a part of what will be written in the histories as a turning point for America, ask them to become a part of the solution. Lets MAKE it a landslide. - jcunwired
Robert... keep reporting the positive info. I like it. :) - CW™
I'm with you, Karoli. I'm also crazy nervous. We can't sit back and rest now. Much work to be done, there is. - Derrick
Nor may Palin's home state vote for her. Anchorage Daily News endorses Obama today. http://www.adn.com/opinion... - jcunwired
I'm still worried the Repooooblicos have a plan to hack the election. - Dave Winer
Evidence of the rising tide in Virginia, as Robert describes in North Carolina. I've been to Wytheville, VA many times, and would never have announced myself as a Democrat without my foot on the gas and grinding through gears. Today, its a different place altogether. I would never have believed it. http://my.barackobama.com/page... This IS happening all over America! - jcunwired
More evidence of Robert's prediction? McCain in NM yesterday spoke to about 1,000 people. - jcunwired
Me too Dave. Especially after McCain said he could "guarantee" victory on Meet the Press today. Scary. - jcunwired
Yet another HUGE crowd turns out for Obama. Haven't heard of a single large turnout for McCain, but I hear people are lining up for his - Mike Reynolds
Me too. Lots of reports of voting machine irregularities with early voting. In NC, if a straight Dem ticket is voted but Pres not voted first, votes are negated. - Karoli
yes, though when I saw full quote, I thought it was less scary. He was posturing. But still scary, yes. - Karoli
The Ballot in NC has prez first, then straight ticket for the rest, then non-partisan positions. The polling place I went to did a great job making sure folks understood. - kevin
I'm worried that the McCain camp has a wildcard - that Obama might not have been born in the US. I think there should be a popular movement to amend/change the law that states that the US president must be a US-born citizen. - Tokyo Dan
Hawaii became a State in 1959. Obama was born there in 1961. His mother was and is an American citizen. You think that is not enough? - Dennis E. Hamilton from twhirl
Can someone born in Puerto Rico run for president? - PC Easy from twhirl
Of course being born in Hawaii is enough. But there's hearsay that Obama wasn't born in Hawaii. He might have been born in Kenya. Haven't you heard this? This may be the reason McCain is so confident. - Tokyo Dan
Being born in Hawaii is just as good as being born in Panama, so I doubt that McCain would want to go in that direction.... - Bora Zivkovic
Within 24 hours I know Joe the Plumber's income, plumbing license status and voting record and Ashley Todd's Twitter, Myspace, Facebook and Youtube accounts, yet months later people still think there is something hidden when it comes to ACORN, Bill Ayers and Obama's birthplace? - Rob Haas
McCain is confident because you're not supposed to act like you're losing even when it's obvious. Hillary Clinton was confident past the point where there was no chance for her to win the primary. - Rob Haas
extraordinary. and a sign of how much we need change. - susan mernit
Eric: are you saying I have influence over the outcome of the election? How flattering. Mind if I use your quote in my PR? :-) - Robert Scoble
I thought women still gave birth in their houses when McCain was born. - MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
@Tokyo: there us no such law. the law says to be president you must be a natural born citizen NOT that you have to be born in the USA If you have an American citizen as parent that's all it takes ; the presidential exclusion clause means you can't be something else and apply for American citizenship then become president .... Everyone screaming from the soapbox to see the original Hawaii certificate is either simply misinformed or one of the group deliberately misrepresenting the truth - David HC Soul
My mother gave birth to me and my two brothers at home, and she's younger than McCain, let alone me! - Ian May
Thanks David. That's reassuring. - Tokyo Dan
He's bigger then NCAA Football, he's almost as big as NASCAR. - Will Higgins™
maybe it's just the realist in me speaking, but let's not get too carried away people. the right wingers will move heaven (they think they can anyway!) and earth to get their guy and his side kick elected and it's gonna get even dirtier than up to now. - Joe Buhler
Duncan Riley
William Shatner hates gay people…well George Takei anyway - http://www.inquisitr.com/6050...
Louis Gray
Re: louisgray.com: Twine Untangles Beta, Launches Social Bookmarking on Steroids - http://www.louisgray.com/live...
"Mitch, one thing Nova often talks about are "Interest Networks", which would include Twine and FriendFeed, as well as Social Median, Strands, etc. FriendFeed, at its heart, is an aggregator, grabbing your activity from many different services around the Web and putting them in one place, as well as consolidating multiple friends' feeds in one stream. Twine starts with bookmarks at the center and works outward. It is interesting to note that FriendFeed has also announced support for your Twine activity, so one would be a superset of the other." - Louis Gray
The Friendfeed integration coming through tonight really was uncanny -- and totally unplanned. - Josh Dilworth
Maybe unplanned to you, but somebody was planning. - Louis Gray
bit of a lazyweb question here - today's the first time i've had a serious go at interacting with Twine and am wondering if it will automatically pull in bookmarks from elsewhere or whether I have to manually add them eg. via the Bookmarklet each time I come across something I want to share? - Matt Hooper
Matt -- you can add via the bookmarklet, e-mail in items, or batch import your bookmarks from the likes of Delicious. Twine will then go out and mine info from the the webpages that are linked to in those original documents/bookmarks. But it doesn't add this second tier of documents as objects (yet) -- it just keeps that information in the Twine index for search and recommendation purposes. - Josh Dilworth
It also pulls out those related (linked to) sites at the bottom of each object/bookmark page, in a handy thumbnailed list for your reference (personally I really like this feature, actually). The next release of Twine will include full text mining and import of that second tier, however, which is what I think you are getting at? - Josh Dilworth
thanks Joshua - very helfpul. Yes - that second tier will be even more exciting. I guess I'm having to get my head around Twine as not being an activity aggregator so much as it working from the bookmarks outward, as Louis so nicely puts it. Also - I notice you can't pull in Google Bookmarks yet? - Matt Hooper
Twine consistently provides me with a stream of "smart" information. I'm so pleased to see they are on the rise. - michael sean wright
Twine is deeply impressive. - Chris Baskind
Duncan Riley
Sorry, there’s no easy way of putting this: Lala Sucks - http://www.inquisitr.com/5808...
and I'm still dumb-founded that other sites can be heaping praise on this site. 10c to play when everyone else is free...WTF x100! :-) - Duncan Riley
Oh! I thought you were talking about Lala from Tiki Bar... I was going to have to block you!! hahahahah! :P - Lindsay
Lindsay, no...and I wouldn't dare :-) - Duncan Riley
I just read a line in another review, apparently paying 10c a song is "extremely addictive." WTF? paying money is addictive? really, when everyone else is free? lol - Duncan Riley
Scott Beale
there is a push to censure Representative Michele Bachmann based on her attempt to resurrect McCarthyism http://www.censurebachmann.com
Robert Scoble
Companies Got Funding Last Week? - http://regulargeek.com/2008...
You are surprised? No please really, take the time to chicken little the economy some more. You-can-do-eeeet! - Morgan Warstler
Morgan: go read the Wall Street Journal or watch CNBC. They are far more negative than I am. - Robert Scoble
Morgan, if you read the post you will see that it is not meant as surprise, just that very few people are reporting it. - Rob Diana
i know of two more companies with recent funding as well... will get announced in next few weeks - Jeremy Toeman
Jeremy: there were five funded last week. This week there'll be some acquisitions of some very profitable companies. - Robert Scoble
hey, that's fantastic news! - Zee.
EricaJoy
Google CEO Backs Obama - WSJ.com - http://online.wsj.com/article...
Google CEO Backs Obama - WSJ.com
"Google Inc. Chief Executive Eric Schmidt will hit the campaign trail this week on behalf of Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama, signaling Mr. Schmidt's push for a greater voice in politics while giving the Obama campaign a boost from a highly desirable constituency. Although the Internet-search company has numerous issues pending on Capitol Hill, Mr. Schmidt said in an interview that "I'm doing this personally," adding that "Google is officially neutral" in the campaign." - EricaJoy from Bookmarklet
Hrm....for some...this is bigger than the Powell endorsement - Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
"Google employees have contributed $487,355 to Sen. Obama's campaign and $20,600 to Sen. McCain's as of Aug. 31. Mr. Schmidt hasn't donated to either." - Roshan Vyas
Do you think he'll be better at this than Carly? - j1m
Wow, those donation numbers seem extremely one-sided even for a Cali-based tech company. - Rob Haas
@Rob I think this talk http://www.youtube.com/watch... won him a bunch of supporters at Google. Up until this talk, I hadn't decided between Obama and HRC. Note the Secret Service presence even then. - EricaJoy
That makes sense. I wasn't aware he had spoken there. Of course, it gets a one sentence mention that I apparently missed in the article. McCain spoke there too; I suppose he didn't go over as well. - Rob Haas
@Rob To be fair, all the candidates did. However Obama had a really good message on technology and you can imagine how that resonated with a crowd full of Googlers. - EricaJoy
Wow, Google favors Obama by about 48-to-2 in terms of $$$. - Mike Reynolds
Obama's "Not Bubble Sort" won me over. :-). And speaking of contributions, Ron Paul got quite a bit of moolah from Googlers with Libertarian leanings. - Thaths
Robert Scoble
Maybe I'm kind of dense (hey, it could happen), but I don't understand why all this means you're not an American. Or are you saying you don't want to be an American? Confused.... - Glen Mistletoe
one, Fox News is NOT onesided, it is about as fair and balanced as any media source we have (they go after EVERYBODY). And socialism/spreading the wealth only brings EVERYBODY down to POVERTY, look at Europe, they have a standard of living WELL under what we expect as Americans. Even though I disagree with the majority of your comments, you have gone overboard on this post :) - Randy
C'mon Randy, Fox "News" is almost universally recognized as very right-biased. And all the talk about socialism is crap... just because of a 39% tax rate (we've had that, and higher, before)... taxation by its nature is spreading the wealth, the gov needs money to provide for the common good and some are better able to contribute than others. Ask Warren Buffett, even he agrees. - LogEx
@logical ... yeah wtf. It just goes to show you how uneducated people are about taxation. - Brandon
@Randy -- Fox News is one-sided... You have a serious slant on your world view if you think otherwise. Not that I have an issue with partisan coverage, as long as your realize what you are getting. - Aram Zucker-Scharff
I have heard some bad things about Fox, but I don't really watch it. I do know that I have never seen MSNBC do an hour long special all about Obama's ties to domestic terrorists...just sayin - Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Very strong post. Ohh and any time you wanna move to Australia, you're totally welcome :) - Mo Kargas
Nope. Not getting involved in yet ANOTHER thread about this! - Akiva Moskovitz
I don't have a problem with taxation. I do have a problem with over bloated government and bureaucracy that seems to grow more and more. Government rarely does anything efficiently, including spending our money. I am sometimes considered a tightwad by those that know me, but I'm not, I like to get value for money as much as possible, and I've never believed that government gives you that in return for the money it takes from you. - Ian May
Ian, right on! I hope that whoever gets elected takes on the bloat and the special interests in a big way. I want value for my money too. And I want to return to a government of the people, by the people, and for the people. - LogEx
me neither. such tripe, really, particularly coming from an echo chamber participants like Scoble and Winer, who have routinely insulted folks with different political ideals than their own. People in glass houses, and such. I'd go into the substance of the post, but when the premise is flawed, there's not much point. - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
Mark, I'm curious... what's the flawed premise? Seriously. - LogEx
Wow, feel the love... Sorry it had to come to this. - Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
I agreed with just about all that Robert said in his article. My only worry is that when Government takes on the job of wealth distribution it 'loses' a lot of the money it distributes along the way. - Ian May
I don't question folks being American or not, nor do I question people's patriotism. I do question their logic, though. Every election we go back to the voting polls because the country is doing a crappy job - economy, environment, war, veterans affairs, social security, pork spending, education... nothing they do ever works. Yet, we're going to elect the next president on how much MORE they are goiing to DO. It's insanity... keep doing the same thing and expect different results. - Douglas Karr from twhirl
you forgot to say, I think the US spends too much of their taxes on the military, I am not an American. - David Lynch
I find it absolutely hilarious that some people consider Obama's platform "socialist" - even in a fairly moderate country like Australia, Obama would be considered to be right of centre here :-) - Warren
1) America is a melting pot. For in sense alot of people arn't american. I mean my main roots of family is set in Germany. That is what's great about this country. 2) I would believe Obama has alot of "Red" Ideas in there. Being he wants to take money from people and give it to less fortunate is almost making breadlines in sense like Russia. One of my friends is pretty much a socialist and he loves Obama. 3) There is bias everywhere. Some people are on Obama's(TV) side and others on Mccain(Radio). - Shawn aka ringking
I think Robert here is making a point. His point being that his country is so different to what he'd like it too be that it does not look like his country. And he is not wanting to be a part of that. Is that a definition of Palins un-American america? No. It us simply an expression of the desire for change. And wether we agree or not ( or even don't belive in the system as I do) he makes a good point. - Roberto Bonini
Roberto: my real point was that there's too much name calling going around just for telling people what you want to see happen. And WAY too much name calling for stuff like your religion. - Robert Scoble
Hey I agree with you 100% Robert. It's a really bad problem. Wish it wasn't do prevalent, but it's human nature to put down those who you disagree with. - Roberto Bonini
Wow, already 2 result on Google for "I'm not an American" http://www.google.com/search... - Mark Krynsky
Andy, Scoble is most definatly not banana :) - Roberto Bonini
Close. It's: "Fox News. We Distort. You Recite." - Christopher Galtenberg
Wow, look at all the conversation this awesome post generated!! Nice job Robert… I concur!! Looks like we’re gonna have to CHANGE this country; don’t move. I love America and want it to GROW up and face the music. No more greed, self-centered-ness, lack of vision or discipline. We must adopt a completely different strategy going forward to better manage this rich and diverse country.... more... - Susan Beebe
Some people may not have noticed, but certain elements in the GOP base - Congressman Bachmann is just the public face of it (but now she's lying about what she said. She's got Alaskan Fever!) have been exhuming McCarthy. That's what Robert's post was about. And it um, used an ironic style. - Rick Powell
fantastic post! - Jennifer Wilbur from twhirl
Tell your employer that they should "redistribute" their wealth instead of investing in business (hiring more employees, paying more, etc.). More welfare is not what we need. - Spencer
I'm a George Will republican, but I am not buying the blind "less gov't" argument. Would less gov't have met our needs on 9/11, Katrina, the housing bubble, and the credit crisis? Prescription drug care, yes. The others, come on. - Christopher Galtenberg
Didn't my government just take a bunch of my money and "redistribute" it to shore up the banking industry? Now, I respect that people who earn a lot of money work very hard for it. But I also respect the teacher who works very, *very* hard (providing an invaluable public service) for about 15% of the pay. If *some* money doesn't trickle in the direction of the teachers--and others who do important work for little money--then what's the incentive for good people to fill those critical jobs? - Robert Clockedile
@Robert C. Good point. Funny how it is OK to redistribute up but not down. Either you are philosophically against it for anyone or you are not. You can't say it is OK in some cases and some it is. I didn't hear these people making an uproar about "redistribution" when there was a tax cut to the top or bailouts of many different kinds. - Rolf Schewe
good post! I guess the comments give a good cross-section of the current division in the US society :-( One thing that will never cease to surprise me is how little americans know Europe... - Antoine Bertier
One thing that will never cease to surprise me is how non-Americans will gladly and breezily generalize Americans. Maybe one day we'll get credit for our diversity of thought and deed, as well as race and creed. - Christopher Galtenberg
@Christopher Galtenberg: it seems diversity of thought is no longer valued in the US, and even actively discouraged, so much so that Robert feels he has to write about it ! And my generalization of americans, comes only after reading dozens of comments generalizing Europe as socialist (by the way look at http://www.politicalcompass.org/euchart and then take the test!) - Antoine Bertier
Robert is giving an unhealthy amount of credence to the views of a minority (<20%) of our population. Talk to 2 sets of people: young folks on a college campus, and middle-aged folks having lunch at a local cafe, and you'll see that really none of Robert's stereotypes hold water. This is an open, warm-hearted, patient, and thoughtful society - Christopher Galtenberg
Robert, I really enjoyed this....especially as a Canadian who became an American. Thanks for it.....I still think you should be the first CTO for the nation :-). need a campaign manager, let me know. - Richard Binhammer
Duncan Riley
Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles renewed by Fox - http://www.inquisitr.com/5695...
Somewhat surprised until it sold the show to Dodge (?) which gave it shorter commercial breaks. Least for one show, which meant it was getting some traction. It's been half-way decent actually. Summer Glau is fantastic, Brian Austin Green is working out and Shirley Manson is a nice addition. - AJ Kohn
They'll be back! - LouCypher
I haven't downloaded this in ages, but should catch up, I quite enjoyed the first 6 or so episodes - Duncan Riley
That's a pretty sweet promo pic - but then I'm a sucker for shotguns ;¬) I've been meaning to watch this, but my viewing habits these days revolve around seasons not episodes. I'd rather watch a string of them together than each individually, much like with Lost or Heroes. I like closure :¬P - CannonGod
Duncan Riley
Duncan Riley
Is That Cloud Turning Into A Minefield? - http://www.inquisitr.com/5648...
the days of cloud as gimmick are over - McFrugal
Robert Scoble
Cloud Computing and Vendor Lock-In - http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog...
Robert: What's the earliest I can call in the morning? - Mona Nomura
Mona: usually 9 but I will be up earlier tomorrow. So how about 8? - Robert Scoble
Robert: I'll try calling around 9:30... if I can't reach you, I'll shoot an email. :) Just remember to check your inbox before 9:45! Hope you had a safe flight back! - Mona Nomura
Johnny Worthington
... I found the LOLcat generator :P
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but, I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!! - Internet's Tad
May I have a sip of your tasty [MILKSHAKE] to wash this down with? - Brandon
What? - Internet's Tad
mm mmmm, this IS a tasty burger - Josh Haley
What ain't no place I ever heard of, they speak English in What? - Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
w-what?? - Internet's Tad
Say WHAT AGAIN! - Brandon
W-w-w-what??!? - Internet's Tad
lol - Brian Bufalo
Say what again, I dare you, I double dare you MuthaTadder, SAY WHAT ONE MORE GOD DAMN TIME! - Johnny Worthington
...what? - Internet's Tad
PEW PEW PEW! - Josh Haley
*super ninja dodging* WHATcha gonna do now, tough guy? - Internet's Tad
I'm gonna get all purple Jedi on yo ass - Johnny Worthington
Duncan Riley
Hey Scoble, Independent blog editorial policies rock! - http://www.inquisitr.com/5277...
telling Scoble to get fucked...lol - Stephen Jones
I emailed him, he didn't respond. It needed outing :-) - Duncan Riley
Outbrain recommends: "You might like: My Google Reader Leaderboard: August 2008 (@louisgray.com: live: Silicon Valley Blog) Roll Your Own Blog Leaderboard With Google Reader Trends (@louisgray.com: live: Silicon Valley Blog)" Nice. - Louis Gray
Scoble regularly plays both sides himself for maximum effect and juicegevity (yeah, I just made that up). I find it hilarious that he'd call anyone out for doing what he's practically perfected, deliberately or otherwise. - abacab
I'm sorry, I didn't see your email. I did get it, I just missed it. My email flow is so high and I bias to FriendFeed and public interaction. Funny that I saw this so late too cause I've been getting prepared for Converge South. Anyway, your comments are fair. I was being an asshole there. Oh, and about Australia? I was joking around. I know there's plenty of startups in Australia. BluePulse and Atlassian are two of my favorites. - Robert Scoble
Scoble, accepted. But never forget, if I want to come after you, I will always have my name on the post ;-) We'll see about adding some of your stuff to the front page as well, I think it would add to the mix - Duncan Riley
Oh this is so lovely ... I love when you two make amends. - Brandon
I use Atlassian JIRA and Confluence at work and love them; actually, i manage the SDLC program for both...great apps! (i.e. our own internally customized versions of both) - Susan Beebe
Duncan Riley
A new look for The Inquisitr and a new partnership with ReadBurner - http://www.inquisitr.com/5138...
and if I never have to do CSS testing in IE again, I'll die a happy man :-) - Duncan Riley
Love it, and brilliantly happy to be working with you Duncan! - drew olanoff
@Duncan Riley: That's the worst part of CSS. What's really frustrating is when it works in IE6 but not IE7, or vice versa. - Jake (aka Jawee)
It seems to be a good move to partner up with ReadBurner. But I preferred the old look (with the grey borders).. Now it's like information overload on the index page. Am I the only one who feel this way? - Winston Teo
z-index? - Jesse Stay
Winston, we need to clean up how the additional info is presented visually a bit, working on that aspect some more. - Duncan Riley
Winston, the category view might be more to your taste, eg : http://www.inquisitr.com/categor... - Duncan Riley
@Duncan re CSS testing in IE. I'm so with you on the one! - Ian May
Duncan Riley
EXCLUSIVE: Apple to launch $800 laptop - http://www.inquisitr.com/4834...
if this isn't accurate, then Im going to spend the rest of the day laughing based on the amount of intrigue and non traceability put in place from the source. However, it's a good source, it's not an outlandish claim, and I'm betting that it's exactly what we've written up. - Duncan Riley
no way! man i hope you're right and you've got the exclusive! - Zee.
Exciting news--fingers crossed. (p.s., did you get the scoop from Obama?) - jeneane sessum
It would have to be so naked that it's charged with indecency & for enticing minors:) - Roney Smith
This would be pretty sweet if you're source is right. When are they going to show these though? Kinda late for an event on the 14th and they must have a public event for such an announcement. - Brandon Titus
I hope this is true, both for you and for Apple. The spyshots going around are seriously lame, though. :-) - Louis Gray
Gruber said it's happening the 15th, so the timing seems to fit. Am interested to see what the take-apart is going to be like for these things. - flammable
@flammable I wonder if the "block of aluminum" approach is to make sure there is no take apart for them. at $800 a pop, maybe apple thinks you can just buy a new one if hardware fails. - EricaJoy
I just wish they'd hurry up with it. I've been holding out for a new MacBook Pro for months. - Richard Crocker
This would be really awesome. Can't wait til tuesday. - Fletcher
As long as the new pro does not have the same keyboard as the current macbook / macbook air. those keyboards look good but really suck to use in my opinion. - Daniel Harman from twhirl
Wow. I pretty much got told by Apple. Guess they can invite people to events however far in advance they see fit. - Brandon Titus
@Erica You might be right, though I suspect that they'd rather swap out a part than replace the entire thing each time (even if it's replaced more often than a regular MacBook). - flammable
Shey, Jamaican of FF
Damn, Shey...on a roll... - JA Castillo
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! - Yolanda
*does the Pillbury doughboy giggle* - Shey, Jamaican of FF
lmao! - Carmen
HAHAHHAHAHHAHA - Mona Nomura
points for the punny name too. - DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE from fftogo
LOL! - BeeLing
The scissor lips in the first frame make him look not cold but like he is a dough boy paper shredder. - Pete Delucchi
Very funny! - Kol Tregaskes
Duncan Riley
Acid found to be drug of choice among Flickr staff - http://www.inquisitr.com/4672...
rofl! - Mona Nomura
Hahahahaha! - George The Writer
gold duncan. gold. - Will DeLuca
Explore & acid, now I understand, Nice one.. - Mel Buckpitt
ROFLMAO the panda's have been windowpaned - Steven Hodson
You say it as if it's a bad thing. 8) - Anthony Citrano
whoa! - Susan Beebe
Whoa. - Ryan Kuder
I Am the Walrus comes to Flickr :-) - Duncan Riley
thats sf for ya! weeee i can *SEE* the music weeeee - sean percival
weeeeeeeeeeeee :-) - Duncan Riley
Dave Winer
The Mocking of the Presidents: Politics & Power: vanityfair.com - http://www.vanityfair.com/politic...
The Mocking of the Presidents: Politics & Power: vanityfair.com
Loic Le Meur
YouTube - Randy Pausch Last Lecture: Achieving Your Childhood Dreams - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
YouTube - Randy Pausch Last Lecture: Achieving Your Childhood Dreams
Play
Duncan Riley
Bloombla: sort of Twitter meets what you’ve done - http://www.inquisitr.com/4665...
Morning Duncan! :) - Mona Nomura
afternoon mona :-) - Duncan Riley
Shey, Jamaican of FF
Big time catch by Berrian! #vikings
That was real nice - Corie
Kara
Yahoo Drops to $15.58 a Share (But Microsoft Still Uninterested) - http://kara.allthingsd.com/2008100...
Maybe Microsoft is waiting to see if Warren Buffet buys first. - Bob Gannon
l0ckergn0me
What is your favorite type of dog? - http://geeks.pirillo.com/xn...
Brussels Griffon - Denise from twhirl
Lhasashisapoo! - l0ckergn0me
Greyhound, Samoid and Golden Retriever. - Nir Ben Yona from twhirl
My dog, Chewbacca the Yellow Lab! :) - Jericho
Maltese. I had two. One passed away recently. - michael parks from twhirl
Boxer - Carmen
Boxer - Jeff Quinton
old English sheep dog - Baard @ Pixum
Pug, French Bulldog, or Bull Terrier. Something with a weird nose. - Steve Lynch from twhirl
Hot Dog - Owen from twhirl
Shihtzu. :) - Lindsay
Black Lab but Yellow tastes good too. - Andrew Smith
my late australian cattle dog RIP http://tinyurl.com/4wsb68 - J450N
beagle! - Alisha
Lab. - Kevin Pedraja
Old English Sheepdog. Bearded Collie. Corgi. Oh, and I suppose the Welsh Terrier. - Nine
Jack Russell - shaun mclane
Golden Retriever, great family pet! - Kol Tregaskes
black lab - lisa-k
"someone else's" - Josh Haley
+1 Josh, lol - Alex Scoble
Top - Todd Hoff
Rotweiller - Steven Perez
Rhodesian Ridgeback - Andre Maltais
Beagle! - Louis Gray
Cairn Terrier - Benjamin Golub
beagle - Gary Burd
Dachshund - George The Writer
Shih Tzu - Chris Rivait
Rottweiler - Chris Baskind
Pomeranian - EricaJoy
Living - Jim Goldstein
Sheltie - Bob Gannon
Cocker spaniel! - Timothy Griffin
Australian Cattle Dog. Red or Blue, I'm not fussy - Duncan Riley
Old English Sheep Dog, or like Josh "someone else's" - Rachel Lea Fox
Duncan Riley
A rose by any other name: naming your blog [Blogging 101] - http://www.inquisitr.com/4441...
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