I also agree with Dan on that piece. He makes a point that we wouldn't put up with it from anybody else, and all the fanboys are attacking him for it. - Jonathan Kemp
@Sidharth the selective leakage only came about because the media would not accept the answers they were given. They chose the option not to disclose the info, but "journalists" and "analysts" wouldn't accept that. If you want to put the choice on Apple and SJ's shoulders you have to be willing to live with the results. - Aaron Krug
Things are really slow for him since he stopped pretending to be Steve Jobs. Imagine; the only thing you're known for is being the "fake someone else." Way to succeed, Danny boy. - Vincent Ferrari
Why should Dan or anyone else leave Steve Jobs alone, Jason? He's the CEO of a public company, and he knows that disclosure comes with the territory -- except that Apple fanbois think that he should get some kind of free pass just because he makes cool gadgets. Is it bad that he had cancer? Sure it is. But that doesn't change his responsibilities, or those of Apple's lapdog board of directors. - mathew ingram
The intelligence of a person is inversely proportional to the number of times they throw around the word "fanboy." - Vincent Ferrari
I guess that makes us even then, Vinnie - mathew ingram
Dude, you're bitter and angry over nothing and the use of the word fanboy makes you look like a pouting child. I don't quite know how that makes us even, but whatever. I know ripping Apple is easy linkbait (I never even heard of you before that fine fine fine post you made) but try and rise above it with more than typical retorts like "fanboy" and "Steve Jobs is God." It's hack, old-hat, and makes you look stupid. - Vincent Ferrari
Mathew is right. Far too many people - even otherwise savvy journalists - are giving Apple a free pass. Vincent, Apple had two good options: stick with the "it's a private matter" line, or full disclosure. Number 1 would at least have been consistent, but number 2 would have been right for Apple's shareholders. They chose to do neither. - Ian Betteridge
@ Aaron: Apple is the best company in the world at not saying anything to the press. The idea that this time they had to cave in because "the press kept asking" is, frankly, laughable. - Ian Betteridge
This is reprehensible. There's no question that Steve Jobs is integral to Apple, and from a business perspective the company would not be the same without him there ... but COME ON ... have some respect. I had respect for Dan Lyons. It has just utterly evaporated. - Cathy Brooks via twhirl
"Mathew is right. Far too many people - even otherwise savvy journalists - are giving Apple a free pass." Really? Because from what I've seen these nattering dopes haven't shut up all week. If that's how you define free pass, I'd love to see how you define pressure and criticism. - Vincent Ferrari
Vincent, an awful lot of those "nattering dopes" are backing Jobs in this. Apple PR thought they could control the question of Jobs' health in the same way as a product launch. Surprise, surprise, they were wrong. The issue of Jobs' health will not go away until they put something on the record. Until they put something on the record, every time the guy has a cold the stock price will drop. - Ian Betteridge
Vinnie, I'm neither bitter nor angry. Frustrated maybe -- by people's willingness to overlook anything negative that Apple does because they love the company's products. And regardless of what you think of the term, "fanboy" is a great way of describing that unthinking support. As for ripping Apple to get traffic, I've been writing about the company for 15 years -- when it does something good, I say so. When it does something wrong, I say so too, and usually get flamed by fanboys like you. - mathew ingram
Jason, obviously Dan did not have Linux or OpenSource fallacies to print today..he seems to be dealing in fallacy printing for a living. - Fred Grott
@Mathew Ingram: Again with the fanboy word? What are you, like 5? I haven't offered any "unthinking support," just criticizing people who think everything a CEO does should be public knowledge. This is his personal health and he has every right to keep it quiet. If something is wrong and he doesn't say something, Apple will deal with the repurcussions later.\ - Vincent Ferrari
@Mathew Ingram: The fact that you keep using the word "fanboy" proves that you know pretty much nothing about me or how to handle a differing opinion. It's no wonder that a writer with 15 years experience like yourself is a complete unknown to someone like me who follows the industry pretty closely. Maybe if you had a little more common sense you'd expand to a level where you wouldn't have to linkbait to get noticed. - Vincent Ferrari
@Mathew Ingram: Then again, you are in Canada, so I guess it's okay to be the big fish in a tiny little pond. Cheers, Mathew! Have a great day! - Vincent Ferrari
Vincent, if you're a stock holder of Apple, the health of someone who probably represents about 20% of its value IS your business. If something is wrong, and he doesn't say anything, he will be in breach of his fiduciary duty (his duty to preserve stockholder value). You *can't* keep a major illness quiet if you're a CEO. - Ian Betteridge
What's more, Vincent, I think the fact that your first post was simply an insult aimed at Dan Lyons (who, by the way, will never read it) kind of robs you of the right to criticise Mathew for attacking you. If you want people to be civil to you, a comment which insults someone is not a good place to start. And ending it with an insult aimed at an entire country (small pond, indeed) isn't great either. - Ian Betteridge
*sigh* For the 300th time Ian, I understand that. But you keep saying the same thing... "If something is wrong." and "He will be in breach." I said the same thing. Thanks for repeating it. Except that in your case, your "if" assumes "yes." My if says that the man is telling the truth and it's a "no." You can't prove he's lying, so why not take him on his word? - Vincent Ferrari
Secondly, my comment "aimed at" Dan is 100% true. He made a name for himself pretending to be someone else. Thirdly, I didn't insult Mathew until he hauled out the stupid "fanboy" meme. Finally, when it comes to tech, Canada is a small pond. That's not an insult, it's fact. There's a reason people look to Silicon Valley to see what's new and not Vancouver or Toronto. If you find that an insult, you're way too sensitive. - Vincent Ferrari
"You can't prove he's lying, so why not take him on his word?" You're missing the point, despite claiming you get it. Jobs has not said a single thing on the record about his health. Nothing. But Apple's PR team outright lied - remember that "common virus" which they claimed was causing him to be thin? Apple's PR team do NOT say anything without Jobs' so-say. That means he's authorised the misleading of investors once, at least. - Ian Betteridge
What's more, Vincent, "way to succeed, Danny boy" is a piece of sarcasm. Sarcasm is used, commonly, as a method of being insulting. So yes, despite the fact you were "factually accurate" you were attempting to be insulting. Like I said, start off your discussion with that tone and I really don't have much sympathy if you get called a fanboy. - Ian Betteridge
@Ian: Last time I'm bothering with you: A: Fine. He lied. He risked his legacy and his company, and tons of lawsuits. That's definitely the most plausible explanation of the PR department getting it wrong. He opened himself up to liability only to later recant. B: My insults to Dan Lyons have nothing to do with Mathew Ingram calling me a fanboy, unless they're one in the same. I don't give a crap if you have sympathy for me or not, nor do I give a crap about you. If that's insulting, then so be it - Vincent Ferrari
@vinne - i repeat - Neil Young is from Canada. @Ian - According to Wikipedia, sarcasm can also be used in a humorous or jesting way depending on the intent of the person speaking. - leigh himel
Vincent, I love the "last time I'm bothering with you" comment. Plus the "wah wah wah I don't care what you think wah" at the end. Well done, you win the internetz! - Ian Betteridge
good for the reporter /blogger.. these SEO are more BS artist then real people that create value.. I add the social media consultants to this type of group too !! - Peter Dawson
Blah, blah, blah, all SEO's are bad, blah, blah, blah. - Jonathan Kemp
let me guess, an email from apple PR just appeared in your inbox? - Will J
It doesn't do everything, but so far I have found it to be a fantastic computer with which to travel. - David Hornik
so what do you hate and why is it worse at weekends? - h1ro
i wish i had one, wish it had a line in for kaossilator recording - Dan Rockwell via twhirl
it probably has something to do with not having WEP support, having only one USB port, and no dvd drive to install stuff from - Geoffrey Hamilton via twhirl
@Dan Aren't Kaossilstors great? I use mine on stage for extra drums and fx. - Martin Bryant
I should come over and do a comparison to the Lenovo X300. That's a really great machine, except for the touch pad. - Robert Scoble
I'd be happy to dispose of your Macbook Air for you. :) - Brian Norwood
there is a non zero chance I am going to pour gasoline on it and light it on fire. on youtube. - michael arrington
I think there is a trend lately to present/market uber-portable laptops as equals to regular laptops in terms of performance and usability. What I have in mind is the Air, X300, some VAIOs etc. An associate of mine bought a $4000 VAIO with faith that he is getting the best there is. Well, an ULV 1.2Ghz CPU with an 1.8" 4200rpm HDD even with loads of RAM cant perform well with Vista, Office2007 and over 4000emails on Exchange, not considering a bad keyboard and a fragile build. - Lugus von Thierfeld
Fitting into a manila envelope is an expensive trick, but fitting (nearly) into a pocket is better. Apple would've been better served to shrink the other dimensions. iNewton? http://tinyurl.com/3qvkuq - Benson Miller
fascinating. i love it. maybe you got the ipod drive version and not the ssd? - Sam Pullara
“Unsubscribing from noisy people on here. There is just too much going on to have people monopolizing the page talking about stuff I have no interest in.”
What do you expect? All politicians do this. The question is will things like this be reported by the media who are all in love with Obama. - Jonathan Kemp
You shouldn't be worried that she is using Twitter, but that you didn't know she was. Interesting that a 9 year old is using Twitter though. What does that say about Twitter? - Jonathan Kemp