Thanks for the heads up. I was thinking about upgrading to the new Tweetie (I still have v1), but I'm not willing to give up REAL RTing. Is it possible to copy-paste the text and do it that way?
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
As Bryce said, you can use "Quote Tweet" but that adds (via @xxxxx) rather than RT @xxxxx and extra quotes
- Joshua Nunn
Ahhh, thanks. Frankly, I'm not really surprised. Tweetie's never been big on RTs. In the first version, you had to go through all kinds of menus to activate it and say you'd read their manifesto about retweeting being evil and all this stuff.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
"the social networking tool Twitter will be used to communicate a series of ideas so banal they will instantaneously negate the three centuries of the Renaissance."
- Joshua Nunn
from Bookmarklet
An interesting article on how the Twitter "follow" model needs to be picked up by Google's Sidewiki to make it even more powerful and useful to users.
- Joshua Nunn
An interesting article on how the Twitter "follow" model needs to be picked up by Google's Sidewiki to make it even more powerful and useful to users.
- Joshua Nunn
With 81 subscribers on FF I get no response to anything I do or say here. I imagine I'd need to participate in the community more, which would involve subscribing to multiple hundreds of people, filling my Friendfeed stream with a lot more stuff to read. I chose not to do that, and it made FF less useful to me.
When you subscribe to those people, put them in lists but remove them from your home feed via the check box. That way you can participate in the larger 'party' but still have your corner of the room for your important people. Your home feed would just be your current people but you can pop into other feeds as interact to grow some following. there are some other things about content, twitter and pictures etc but in a pure interaction sense, I would suggest that.
- Johnny Worthington
Follow Johnny's advice. As you find more people in your new lists that you like what they post, move them in to your main. That way your home feed will grow slowly with the best content you like rather than just a mass-add and then trying to filter out the stuff you don't like
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
I have done that to some degree already. It's one of the reasons I tried advocating FF over Twitter to my friends, as I could mute things temporarily and only see what I wanted to. But I didn't think it kosher to add a tonne of people just to build up my reader numbers? I figured if what I was saying was interesting it would be shared and liked and seen. Maybe I'm just boring :P
- Joshua Nunn
Joshua, it takes time, a long, long time. The core users tend to be a very incestuous bunch who seldom interact with outsiders (even if you're an insider, right Johnny? :) ). Just keep plugging at it, both participating and contributing, and someday you will be noticed.
- jcunwired
Joshua, it's not just about content unfortunately... And I by no means am suggesting subscribing to a whole bunch of people for follow backs. If you subscribe to more people, you will have more opertunity to put your name out there on threads. You can still have your normal experience but if your '- Joshua Nunn' isn't infront of eyeballs, no one will visit your feed to discover your interesting stuff. I have to be very proactive in my FriendFeeding to get any response back.
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
I agree with Rahsheen... several of us right now have one foot on the FF base, but we're reaching for the next one (for many of us, the next base is GReader). Our trust in FF has been severely shaken, though we love it more than anything else online.
- Kamilah Gill
participate. a certain amount of talking about yourself is okay, even good, but mostly bring in things that other people might find interesting. but participation is also about giving feedback/commenting and how you treat people weighs HUGE around here. also, forget about keeping track of your metrics, they're worthless here except as meaningless trophies.
- Joe Silence is not dead
I actually started out this post to talk about why Google Reader is going to be even less effective for me... I pressed enter too soon! I actually decided not to focus on FF a couple of months ago, as I was having more interactions on Twitter and needed to choose one to focus on. It was my choice not to actively get involved with the community here. Thought I needed to clear that up, as I don't mean to whine about not being "recognised".
- Joshua Nunn
Agreed with Google reader, I just can't get into it
- Mo Kargas
Kamilah, while I agree, this kinda stuff applies universally to all social media. I don't want Joshua to think I am picking on him but if you look at his home feed, right now it's all text based and several @replies. Anywhere that wouldn't excite me to explore, regardless of FriendFeed or Google Reader etc.
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
Is there a blog post somewhere on the interweb which shows you the best tips for making FF lists.
- Bryan Lee
from iPhone
The problem is compounded for me with GR. I can't afford to subscribe to too many people, as their management tools are no where near as advanced as FF. And there is no "stream" to stand in and let the posts wash around you.
- Joshua Nunn
Johnny, I appreciate you checking out my feed. I'm not sure how to rectify the lack of "interesting" items, as I don't actively go looking for pictures and gifs to share. I use the net, and if it interests me it gets bookmarked or shared, and eventually turns up here. Mostly that means text. If I have a question I ask it. Maybe I'm doing it wrong.
- Joshua Nunn
No, not doing it wrong but the level of interaction anyone recieves correlates directly to the level of interaction elsewhere, name recognition and visual interest. It's the basics of advertising and PR. If you're not out there and getting attention, no one will know your brand exisits. Keep on fighting the good fight but in the end we are visual creatures with short attention spans and a lot of stuff flowing past our eyes...
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
I was kind of just mentioning GR as a "by the way", which is what I think Rahsheen may have also been doing. You're right about enlivening feeds with images and interesting links. If I don't see any pictures in a feed, I don't linger over it long (unless the person already has a lot of subscribers to recommend them). I very deliberately try to include an image with every more important post, and I try to have at least one image for something per day.
- Kamilah Gill
To put it into perspective, most of my posts get interaction from about 0.5-1% of my subscribers. My top all-time posts are anywhere from 5-10%. The only reason it looks like a lot is because I've collected a lot of subscribers over a year. I'm willing to bet most everyone's actual engagement percents are actually quite close to the same, but 0.5% of 80 subscribers is a lot different than 0.5% of 1800.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
You don't need to subscribe to participate. Use search to find conversations that interest you, and comment on them. That will help build your name.
- John E. Bredehoft
from fftogo
Thank you for those numbers Tina. I didn't expect the activity percentage to be that low. I just want to be clear here that I never intended to imply that it wasn't my fault that I don't have huge participation on my items. I fully realise that I could participate more.
- Joshua Nunn
If you effectively use the FriendFeed bookmarklet (include teaser-text and photos with your entries), the FF community's response will come. I PROMISE. Bookmarklet... http://friendfeed.com/share...
- Brad Williamson
Just testing what happens if I use the "Note in Reader" bookmarklet to share and comment on something that someone in my network has already shared and commented on.
- Joshua Nunn