Twitter was a figment of our imagination ;)
- Valeria Maltoni
Yeah -- I haven't seen a fail whale in a while. And i just noticed that Penthouse Magazine commented on your post, Jeremiah.
- Daniel B. Honigman
Does Facebook or Friendfeed pick up the real time web slack when Twitter goes down? What is your first instinct on where to turn?
- Joe Magennis
from iPhone
Oh, look at all the fresh updates here! (Including mine) Is this the social media equivalent of a booty call?
- Justin Whitaker
and the funniest part is when your first reaction is to tweet and find out what is going on. oops. Nothing on the blog, I checked.
- nan braun
I'm having login issues with Facebook as well (and so are a number of my friends in different parts of the countries). FriendFeed FTW
- Sam Harrelson
from IM
Can't access Twitter in NL either. Over to Friendfeed!
- Samuel Driessen
@Sydney I rather like FriendFeed, there's just more people on Twitter for me, it drives WAY more traffic, and it's RARE good discussions evolve here from anyone other than POWER users.
- Ryan Stephens
love how we all pop over here when twitter is down ;)
- Kate
Johnny: I have more discussions b/c my friends engage more there...of course harder to follow and usually include only 2-4 people. I LOVE the threaded comments here, provided a group of intelligent people were chatting, but how often does that happen? Sometimes with people like Scoble, Owyang and Louis Gray? (that's been my experience anyway.)
- Ryan Stephens
I was not fully awake trying to bring up the Twitter page. Good to know it wasn't just me.
- RuthNH
Sam .. They are like alternate universes. Didn't expect anything in my Facebook feed, but knew it would be hopping here. Love this! This is going to be a Trending Topic I suspect ....
- Joe Magennis
from iPhone
@johnny I'd love to see that list, I'm going to sit down with friendfeed this weekend and figure it out
- Sydney Owen
Well, you mean in general or just the current outage? ;)
- Mads Kristiansen
.. Scoble must have run his script again, I guess.. ;)
- Mads Kristiansen
Johnny: That's completely fair. I've lurked a lot & have read a lot of Louis Gray's, Scoble's and Valeria Maltoni's insights with respect to FriendFeed. You're right, maybe I'm not following the right people. And I didn't necessarily mean to imply there was a lack of intelligent conversation. It's just rare that I've seen these discussions develop from anyone's comments aside from a few power users. I'd be grateful for a list of users.
- Ryan Stephens
I'm blaming Jeff Elder for breaking the Twitterz in the Charlotte area, because he wrote a column about how it was good for listening for businesses. http://bit.ly/ospIC
- Andria Krewson
from iPhone
Johnny: But how often does it start from someone's message that's not a 'power user' ? How often does someone following 100, have a 100 followers end up with conversations like this off of one of there comments?
- Ryan Stephens
My car was broken into last night at union square SF. I think they used a digital scanner, as there were no indicators of foreceful breakin, and I doubt I left it unlocked. Damage? Stolen subwoofer, ipod, and a few hundred CDs, leather jacket. Could have been worse, I'm not mad, but lesson learned.
Sorry to hear. I was just saying to my husband that no one breaks into cars to steal cds anymore and I am sorry to learn I am wrong.
- Martha
that's shit sorry to hear about it..... but, you know what they say about leaving stuff in ya car..anywhere.. I always had the MINIMAL in the car.
- Rob Sellen :o)
Digital scanner? I need to read up on this. Sorry to hear this, man. That sucks.
- Ha3rvey #teamMonique
Ouch! (This is one where I wish "like" was "dislike")
- Jesse Stay
There's two ways that I know of that car thieves can use to break in with digital scanners: 1) A device that emits a range of device till cars unlock 2) A thief can be in proximiety and 'record' your signal from your car alarm, then 'repeat' it back with a devices after you leave. I don't have more details, it's what others told me
- Jeremiah Owyang
good old fashioned keys used to be enough...
- Rob Sellen :o)
No, physical keys are messy. Digital is fast and clean and you don't have to fiddle with car locks nor break windows.
- Jeremiah Owyang
stops ya stuff getting nicked tho eh... just sayin :o/
- Rob Sellen :o)
That sucks! You seem pretty cool about it, which is good. My car was stolen a year ago, but I got it back within an hour thanks to some friends and some connections with the Santa Monica Police. The car was insured, but it was the feeling of being victimized that bothered me. I'm sorry this happen.
- Michael Fidler
A few hundred CDs? Did you keep these around to send a message to the ipod, that at any time, it could be replaced?
- Andy Bakun
@Jeremiah Why lesson learned? Do you think to have mistaken something? The only thing you can be in the future is don't leave in your car anything that can interest thieves (or not visible)
- Roberto
from iPhone
Having lived and worked in an urban environment, I've learned to hide anything of perceived value out of sight and to make better parking choices. Other than that, there isn't much one can do. Things are just things. It's that feeling of having been violated, that stings. I'm sorry to read that someone did something to wrong a person who does so much for others.
- Mark Davidson
from BuddyFeed
Roberto nothing was visible, although my car looks nice from the outside appearance, there's a lot of gang acitivity in SF, and my type of car is popular so next time: 1) i'll leave less in car 2) park in a garage. Yes I'm cool about it. Shit happens
- Jeremiah Owyang
Mine was broken into on the street in front of my house one night. And we live in the safest neighborhood in one of the safest suburbs of Northern VA. Feels very violating. Glad your OK and not bitter.
- Craig Eddy
I'm sorry to hear that happened, Jeremiah. I hope the thieves are caught with your stuff. Interesting that they may have used a digital scanner, yet another thing to watch out for.
- Cathryn Hrudicka
I've had my vehicles broke into and it's such a bummer. Sorry to hear that you had to experience it, too.
- Kelli Perez
Bummer. Mine was broken into in SoMa two weeks ago. They took nothing. I had to replace the glass. Lesson learned too.
- fogfish
Weird, I've had my car broken into in SoMa too.
- Robert Scoble
Unlucky, how does your insurance policy work in the US on what you can claim back?
- Joe Dawson
from iPhone
Joe: usually you have a deductable. Mine is $1,000. They broke a window on my car, which cost $400 and stole my friend's old laptop. Not worth reporting.
- Robert Scoble
I've always loved visiting Union Square. But I once walked unscathed through a whole area in SF which I was later told was a bit risky, then arrived in Union Square and missed by inches being brained by a bottle hurled (at me? at life in general?) by an evidently less than happy chap half-reclining in the entrance to an unused shopfront.
- Des Walsh
This is where FriendFeed needs a "Note" button rather than a "Like" button - for while I'd like to make a note of your post, I don't like the idea of your having had someone break into your car. (I especially don't like the idea of their having stolen your CDs...condolences...)
- Vincent Wright
Back in the late '80s in NYC, I had my car broken into weekly. I lost so much stuff but the thing that still burns is losing my late dad's custom leather racing suit. I loved that suit and wore it when I had a motorcycle. It's the sentimental stuff that is hard to get over. Sorry to hear...
- sean808080
Already some years ago I considered to install two cams (or webcams) inside my car (ok, I'm really mad ^_^) that register a video after a little movement of the car (also when another car bump the mine when she's in the parking). I haven't yet applied this, but maybe one day...
- Roberto
from fftogo
sorry to hear that buddy. It's only stuff and you guys are ok...
- David Alpert
I'm sorry your stuff was stolen, that sucks! We had our car stolen years back while it was double-parked with a passenger still in it! Long story short: we got it back with minor wear & tear & learned a valuable lesson!
- Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart
from BuddyFeed
Sorry to hear about your loss. Invasions of privacy such as that are truly disturbing. :(
- Mathew A. Koeneker
I'm sorry to hear that your car was broken into. I know it's "just stuff", but I always hated the feeling of MY space being violated whenever my car was broken into. My old Huyndai was broken into quite often (even in so-called safe parking places) that I just didn't keep anything of value/interest in it. They still tried to break into it...I think they just used it for practice, really. :-(
- Russian Space Lizard
So sorry that happened to you, Jeremiah. Were all those things in clear view? Lots of times the thieves won't bother if they see nothing in the car. That's why SF police recommend that you leave nothing visible in the car -- not even a pair of sunglasses.
- Mary Trigiani
Jeremiah that is simply awful... sorry to hear that!!! Yikes, I need to go clean out my car and remove anything I'd cry about if it was stolen! eeeek!
- Susan Beebe
120k unique a month visitors plus a few thousand subscribed (I'm talking about my blog) just for estimates. No plans on doing this, as I was talking to a friend about this today.
- Jeremiah Owyang
Bret: awesome. Need a recommendation for birth class? @ev used the same coach that we used (Jeremy Toeman recommended too). My birthday is in January, hope it is on the 18th!
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Congrats.. Is that Coda, the new place that just opened?
- David Vasileff
from iPhone
Wow, I had no idea. Congratulations to both of you! Anaïs is just passing nine months, and we're finally starting to go out to restaurants with her. Just remember, once [s]he gets here, and you're pulling your hair out from fatigue and frustration -- it gets better quickly!
- Joel Webber
Jeremiah: we went to Hedley Club Lounge in San Jose (http://www.yelp.com/biz...). We live in Los Gatos, so more convenient than SF for us if we don't feel like driving. Pretty laid back, good drinks. I am not a jazz aficionado, but the music has been very good the few times we have been.
- Bret Taylor
Louis "hey look i can access my business card contacts on my iphone" Jeremiah "oh what service are you using?" Louis "oh it's cloudcontacts.com" Jeremiah "oh yea i need to place an order!"
- Allen Stern
Nice Allen. Very subtle. :-) Actually Jeremiah was very adament that he was not into paper cards. I wonder if he was only half serious or half joking.
- Adam Helweh
from BuddyFeed
Hey Adam, it was good to hang with you again
- Jeremiah Owyang
Oh Allen, you're funny. BTW I"ve not forgotten about you and CC
- Jeremiah Owyang
:) to be more serious it's either ms. pac man or lazyfeed :)
- Allen Stern
Allen, it's neither of those. Jeremiah wrote about it today.
- Louis Gray
oh now i know what it is - i just had to call on my Sixth Sense!
- Allen Stern
The feeling is mutual Jeremiah. I am eager to get you to consider that Taiko offer I mentioned. You drive across the Dumbarton and I will hook up the beginning Taiko drumming lesson. Maybe we get Louis involved if he is game.
- Adam Helweh
Which browser do you normally use? :-)
- Todd Hoff
It's about frickin' time, Guy! You're the guy who handed Steve Balmer a Macbook Air as a symbol of good design and yet you've been using Twitter all this time? Either start using friendfeed or switch to using Dells. You can't have it both ways. :)
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
You missed out on the earlier days of FriendFeed, but then it's never too late to start using it.
- imabonehead
I don't think Guy understands he can write comments to his posts, instead of new posts to conversate
- Stephen Pickering
Welcome, we arent experts here but we manage to muddle through some how
- Robert Higgins
Alex: Can I get a Dell through you?
- Guy Kawasaki
Guy you just can't resist that Windows 7 can you :-)
- Stephen Pickering
congrats Guy! I think you'll like it :)
- Glenn Hilton
This is """literally""" the first time I commented on your feed. As always, welcome to new users such as yourself. Self + for my improper use of air qoutes.
- Eric - seven eleven
from iPod
I'm listening to Howard Dean and Bill Frist discuss Healthcare on Charlie Rose after hearing John Bolton on Jon Stewart destroy my mood about Iran, nuclear and WW3
- Myrna
Welcome here, maybe it takes people like you to bring the finesse of FriendFeed to the world! (can't let @scobleizer do all the work on his own, can you?)
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
now figure a way to have my friendfeed autopost alltop content, maestro!
- adam garrett
Cool! I got to see this thread because I'm subscribed to Robert Scoble's "Likes"! (I'm trying to turn UP the noise level, not turn it down) Ha!
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
i use ff for sending content from my followed blogs to twitter and facebook, etc. check out Jack Humphrey's video on the subject... you guys need to talk. i think the site is blogsuccess.com?
- Jeffrey T. Sooey
You will find the action if you look for it... it's all in who you subscribe to and how you participate.
- Lindsay
There's a menagerie of action, and it's all within arm reach. Stay a while :)
- Micah
The action depends on the way you want to direct. You can make poll-like questionnaires, share some feed and ask your followers opinions or put on your thought on a ruff subject like politics, sex or some tech-device which everyone loved but you hated it. Then it starts like a snowball. Oh, and you can put some photos like the ones when you took some photoshoots when Audi gave you a R8 to "try". Then action will find you. :)
- Olcayto Cengiz
You make the action! My fav place is "Best of Day" on the Top Right on FriendFeed under the 'Friends" section. Of course you are already dominating this area on your first day! :)
- Brady
you can make your own action, how? ask questions
- Jeremiah Owyang
I know it might sounds strange, but I have been looking for this tweet for ages! I saw it on the phone and forgot to follow the link. I knew you posted it on the day you spoke at Razorfish, but Twitter Search refused to let me look that far back in time. I had given up, but was testing out FriendFeed's older items and it turns out to be the second to last item. I am sure it will disappear into the ether soon. Glad I caught it and "liked" it in time.
- Matthew Moroz
This was a brochure for college students back in 1992 that advertised the Mac IIci and one of the first PowerBooks. Yes, I used to be an Apple shill! :-)
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
WOW! That's hilarious! What a cool thing to have.
- James Hull
Ah. 1992. I would love to go back in time to 1992 with a Macbook Pro or something, and show you some tech from the future and then take it off you and bugger off back to the future.
- Mark
You were a girl in 1992? Oh wait - you mean you were the guy on the LEFT! :) :)
- Lee Drake
Woz and I talked later about the Mac IIcx's. They were so easy to upgrade. I miss that era of computers.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
I remember attending Apple's IIci announcement at the Universal Ampitheater in October 1990? Later in the day I met with Guy Kawasaki and discussed his ideas for a board game. I ordered a IIci on the developer's discount at just over $4600. I still have it and the copy of the check I used to pay for it.
- Mike Shulman
Like the ad. I was testing FF email feature yesterday. Did you send from your phone or desktop?
- Nakeva Corothers
Interesting how Apple has always worked so hard going after the college/university student market, especially in the context of the way they dominate sales of computers over the $1000 mark now. It's not only targeting young minds, it's also targeting young minds that are disproportionately likely to be wealthier than average in their careers and invest in themselves.
- Jed White
This is great. I love the come-hither pose.
- Mike Doeff
from iPhone
I think a good practice is to consider unfollowing EVERYONE each year, then just add folks that are relevant. Why? people change, you may not wanted to have followed them, or you may want to reduce the noise. What do you think?
We clean our out contact lists in address books from time to time. Why not online.
- Kate Foy
How did you do this Holden? I'm following a few thousand folks
- Jeremiah Owyang
Jeremiah, and you can do this with SocialToo - it's $25, one-time payment, you never pay again. We unfollow everyone for you, pretty quick, too.
- Jesse Stay
That and you get all our other services, and we're sustainable unlike any of the other services out there doing it.
- Jesse Stay
(BTW, I added this feature when you recommended we add it when you were out at Omniture Summit) :-)
- Jesse Stay
Oh yeah Jesse. we xchanged emails about that. Hmm i may need it. Thinking it over
- Jeremiah Owyang
what might help is to be able to flag some followers as perms
- Allen Stern
Jeremiah let me know if you're ready to do it and I'll be sure you get top service and priority.
- Jesse Stay
Allen, we do that too - add them to your Unfollow whitelist and we'll never, ever unfollow them.
- Jesse Stay
I guess we just call it your "whitelist" - it's under your unfollowing preferences though.
- Jesse Stay
Davis, what's funny is that I see people on your side, and on the other side of the auto-follow debate all criticizing the other for calling themselves Social Media Experts. I don't think there is any right or wrong way to do it.
- Jesse Stay
I'm downsizing my follows. The follow everyone who follows you concept has done more harm with noise than good besides to get your numbers higher.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
First, there are free tools to unfollow, no need to pay. See the category for Follower Management on our site http://EverythingTwitter.com I don't mass unfollow, I use some of the other tools to look first for ones that haven't posted in a while. That is quick cleanup.
- Chris Miller
It's certainly a stunt people have pulled before, using SocialToo and other tools. If that is how you want to use Twitter, Twitter is, in the end, and a la carte service geared to the individual. I personally prefer a richer, more diverse, stream, myself. #stilllongsforall@sback I think it is overthinking your social media use in your particular case at your particular experience level,...
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- Leslie Poston
Holden: It is very quick in a lot of the tools. Select all or unselect all. I am just saying if you are only looking to do this step, there are fre ones out there that work well. We review them all to our best before listing them
- Chris Miller
Chris, the problem with those other tools is that they aren't sustainable. The Twitter API only allows a certain number of requests per IP, per hour, so as they get enough traffic, boom, now they don't work any more. Use them at will, sure, but keep in mind the minute any of them gets any attention they're going to go down due to the Twitter API limits. To keep one running you have to...
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- Jesse Stay
Holden, like your 'new' avatar. It looks new to me.
- Myrna
Jesse, I love SocialToo, don't get me wrong. But a lot of people don't follow that many (isn't the average small) that they would break the API limit that fast no? Just throwing out to search before paying to get what they need.
- Chris Miller
Chris, I think you'd be surprised. It's why we had to start charging for our features.
- Jesse Stay
I like the idea of changing who you follow but unfollowing everyone is going to far. I think trying to follow too few ppl is seen as a status symbol, but limits interaction w/ newbies, ppl who spark new interests, perspectives you otherwise ignore - defeats the purpose of using social media to discover new relationships and collaboration. But JUST TRY unfollowing everyone, and see how much you depend on certain ppl to pipe up when you need it most, etc....
- Liza + = ?
I think it's a good strategy. Maybe there are other good strategies, but this definitely is a good one. I think our minds work so strange that the one's answer to the question to "will I unfollow him?" when following not always be yes, when the answer to "will I follow him" while not following would be no. It's harder to deliberately unfollow someone then not starting to follow someone you don't follow (but might remember having followed in the past). Rigorously unfollowing all helps deal with this bias.
- Meryn Stol
Davis. Didn't mean to sound like a jerk, so sorry if I did. My information habits and diet have changed, so I need to change my inputs.
- Jeremiah Owyang
I even started with a new username, without any follower, and completely new discussions :)
- Steph (sh_skew)
from iPod
I'm not sure I'd go so far as to unfollow everyone, but I think your basic idea is a good one, Jeremiah. My approach is more like managing an investment portfolio, periodically reviewing individual assets and their return, remixing to maximize overall benefit.
- Larry Hawes
Do you have to follow someone on Twitter AND Friendfeed? Is there some sort of twitterquette about that?
- Gregg Le Blanc
It melts really well, but no better than standard American cheese slices. If you like the flavor of Velveeta I guess it would make a kickin' grilled cheese.
- FFing Enigma
Mona, you must get to the bottom of this melty situation.
- Yolanda
You know what I like to make my grilled cheese sandwiches with? REAL ACTUAL CHEESE. #bitchlips
- Derrick
LOL @ ANIKA AND ADRIAN!! ...but I can NEVER get the cheese to nicely melt. :( I missed your #bitchlips, Derrick <3
- Mona Nomura
Mayo instead of butter, seriously? Must. look. for that thread.
- Mona Nomura
Its not the best cheese in the world, but there is something nostalgic about velveeta grilled cheese or velveeta naco cheese. If you didn't have it growing up it may not be as good, but you really can't beat how well it melts.
- Rachel Lea Fox
Velveeta grilled cheese, it's the only way to make grilled cheese
- Shaun William
I have seen velveeta, but don't think I've even eaten it. I'm always put off by plastic wrapped plastic looking stuff.
- Ian May
NO WAY! Grilled cheese is best with a mixture of pepper jack and sharp cheddar. Fact!
- Sarah Lane
Velveeta is practically melted already. Not actually cheese. And yes, I've tried mayo instead of butter. If you want to "butter" the bread and then grill it, mayo doesn't burn and you can grill nice and slow to make sure the cheese melts.
- m9m, Crone of FriendFeed
I ate it when growing up, when I didn't know it wasn't really cheese. It was good, but I go for cheddar now.
- Tom Landini
I like my grilled cheese with Provolone. I ate Velveeta as a kid, and I'm not eager to go back to that (or other cheese food products).
- John (bird whisperer)
People who defame Velveeta (or other chesse foods) purely because it's not "real cheese" probably don't know how cheese is made, or what the legal definition of "cheese food" is.
- Brian Johns
Brian, given that most people do not realize that some of the best cheese is fermented, eaten by worms or moldy, I don't think the Velveeta haters have much of an argument.
- Rob Diana
I don't understand how the fermentation process to create real cheese helps Velveeta's case in any way.
- John (bird whisperer)
Sure - Velveeta's not fermented/aged long enough to be labeled as "cheese", but that doesn't mean it's necessarily bad. Sometimes some extra salt and some emulsifiers for meltdown stability is exactly what you want!
- Brian Johns
Actually, my point was that fermentation, worms and mold are all basically nasty processes. Velveeta is probably some odd concoction of dairy and preservatives, but fairly clean.
- Rob Diana
Yuk! It's not even real cheese. The best grilled cheese sandwich is made with real cheese, not "cheese products".
- RuthNH
Hmm, I've never seen Velveeta in the UK, but I take it that it's supposed to be similar to Philadelphia?
- Tyson Key
Nope Tyson Philly Cream cheese is totally different :D
- Tony C (Unrated)
Aah, thanks for the clarification on that. I've always derisively referred to those cheese slice things as "plastic cheese", for what it's worth, though.
- Tyson Key
It is definitely not true. Not even sure Velveeta is cheese, so by definition it cannot make a grilled cheese. That is my legal opinion.
- Martha
Slightly off-topic, but since we're talking about cheese products (or derivatives/imitations thereof) -Just what is BabyBel, anyway? I've assumed that it's Edam for a long time, but the manufacturers don't say if it is or isn't, if I remember correctly.
- Tyson Key
I think it is a baby swiss cheese, Tyson, but I am not quite sure.
- Martha
It's interesting that TechCrunch will now essentially get the scoop on anything Twitter from here forward for a long time considering the information they have.
- Jesse Stay
jesse - i agree - maybe it was one of the reasons tc didn't want the documents to get out past them. i mentioned before that if i ran a large blog or news site i might want those docs just to keep a level playing field.
- Allen Stern
Allen, yeah, it gives TC huge leverage, and in some ways, bias, towards such coverage. Twitter's job now is to do everything the opposite of those docs. ;-)
- Jesse Stay
They might be able to correlate actions to some of the notes on those docs, but the stories don't write themselves :) I doubt twitter would do the *opposite* of the docs just to spite TC - they have a business to run
- Chris Saad
Better question: What will Mashable and RWW do to differentiate?
- Jeremiah Owyang
Marshall never has any trouble differentiating. Marshall does broad analysis while TC does breaking news and short term commentary
- Chris Saad
Chris, I was mostly joking about Twitter doing the opposite. I agree though - it's not as easy as it seems, just gives them an advantage.
- Jesse Stay
Agreed re: baking, but try to avoid nuts because some people are allergic. It's a sweet gesture.
- Ayşe E.
Get to know them, then bring something over. Build a relationship of relatively frequent contact, asking if they need help, offering to introduce them to their other neighbors, invite them over. Weird as it may sound, cookies are not everyone's favorite, but concern and an offer of assistance hits the mark every time.
- Stephen Dill
Take a fruit basket over. Everybody loves fruit:)
- Roney Smith
Tell em you're having a party this weekend and ask them if they can clean up their yard by then. =)
- Beau Liening
I just remembered something. One of my co-workers used to take over bottles of water and sports drinks when she saw people moving in.
- Ha3rvey #teamMonique
Say Hi and ask them if they need anything.
- Kim Landwehr
thanks all, it's those hand made things that are personal huh?
- Jeremiah Owyang
Nice of you to even think of this! How about bringing them takeout menus from some of your fav restaurants? Even the names/phone numbers would be a big help to a new neighbor.
- Lida Citroen
Peek in windows after nightfall. Please note only like one of our neighbors talks to us so i might not be best advisor.
- SteVe C
huh? and the only thing Sharepoint is good for is document management and making consulting firms lots of money. The Sharepoint team trys to push it as an actual app server type solution to actually be all your websites, this makes all the developers I know shudder and other depts at MS smirk.
- adolfo foronda
We use SharePoint at my work. All I can say is...eh...but, the alternative for some time was Lotus Quickr. So at least we got the lesser of two evils.
- Fleagle
Nice to learn about these services from people passionate about them.
- Steve Farnworth
I think if people were using Sharepoint only for doc management and the likes, it definitely is too heavy to consider and there are better solutions out there. However, Sharepoint Services plays well into MSFT's Visual Studio Team System strategy as an over-arching dev collaboration platform - they leverage Sharepoint in VSTS pretty well. Sharepoint is used transparently and powerfully in that platform. Would I want to use Sharepoint outside of VSTS? I don't know.
- The Fat Oracle
Their product may be better (I don't know if it is) but they lack an enterprise footprint, and enterprise reputation so the arguement pretty much doesn't matter. Yet.
- Jeremiah Owyang
To those people who are calling Sharepoint a glorified document repository, I have to say (respectfully), you've never seen it used properly. Organisations that implement it straight out of the box, expecting to scratch their itch, get all that they deserve. I consulted at a UK bank that had a dedicated team in IT supporting the infrastructure and departmental content owners responsible...
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- Andrew Terry
SharePoint isn't just about the out of the box -experience, but customization through configuration and development is another part. As a developer on Microsoft-platforms, I'm not really impressed by the APIs and deployment experience in the 2007 -version (especially public web site), but I hope that has changed in 2010.
- Jemm
The footprint of the SharePoint isn't really a problem for most enterprises anyway. It's normal to dedicate several servers around it, if necessary. For some small companies that box.net -product could be a fine alternative, though.
- Jemm
Box.net is awesome! I use it regularly, there is also a product called DocHost at www.idoccorp.com that is really great and works much more efficiently than Sharepoint
- jamie swartz
Thanks for discussing boldly but diplomatically this issue. I have been suspicious of LInkedIn recommendations. Your preferred tact to place recommendations organically around the web (eg. in unfiltered blogs) is also my preferred method of finding recommendations that have more credibility to me --because those references to someone's work(s) are in context and timestamped!
- Lisa thorell
Could you be more specific why you discriminate against linkedin when making recommendations in public? It seems to me you have more problems with Linkedin as the medium than recommendations perse.
- Meryn Stol
Meryn I have *no* issues with LinkedIn as the medium, I'm quite agnostic about it. It's the only place where users are requesting me to recommend their product (in this case, their job). I would say the same if it happened in MySpace or Facebook --but they don't.
- Jeremiah Owyang
Valid food for thought via @jowyang on why he doesn't do "Requested Recommendations" on e.g. LinkedIn, due to the layers of social filters/biases involved. I tend to agree that there is often too much "puffery" - the more everyone recommends EVERYone, the less meaningful any of it becomes.
- Alex Schleber
Jeremiah, than what you are saying is that you don't respond to people begging for recommendations. That's something entirely different I think.
- Meryn Stol
Ok, forgive me my previous BS comment here. I understand your position now, and think it's very fair. Certainly given your visibility and potential influence over others, I think it's a good decision to not respond to people soliciting recommendation.
- Meryn Stol
Great article and I tend to agree. But I would go one step further and say all recommendations are meaningless and without value because of their positive comments. I'd rather see a recommendation that is bad from someone I'm interviewing. At least I know they're honest, real and willing to admit their weaknesses.
- Aaron Whitaker
@aawhitaker - perhaps be aware that some highly discriminating people and hiring mgrs believe in the "Some Vs. None" Law, meaning, if you find even one negative comment against a person that it means that it is highly likely there are probably other negative comments (discoverable or not discoverable). If you find No negative comments -- this person is pristine clean, a winnah, someone you want to hire as they don't make mistakes. A sub-game to be aware of among some of the super-competitive...;-)
- Lisa thorell
nice update w/ Hutch's link (you must have telepathically gotten that article from me when we met 2 weeks ago, I'd had dinner with Hutch the night before). Shame the FF action is flaky, that is a really cool integration.
- Stuart Miniman
ive interviewed them a few times - great example of a nyc startup - hands down working - stays out of the valley and yet kicks arse and makes money - too bad it seems few of us talk about these companies
- Allen Stern
I guess it will let me fully optimize my #timewarner capped 60Kbps upload. When did Manhatten become an internet backwater?
- Daniel Lizio-Katzen
Daniel that is crazy. The Communications industry like the finance industry is so heavily regulated we don't get the kind of competition we need to blow through crap like that. Robert did you catch a headline in the NYtimes today saying the Google/Microsoft competition is going to make consumers lose? How crazy is that? I want MSFT, Apple and Goog to succeed because the pie gets bigger. Phillips Curve austerity is one of the biggest flaws in the economic think tanks
- Stephen Pickering
Seems like a combo WAN Optimization/Caching appliance.
- Peter Ghosh
It was interesting. Translates 3G to Wifi to share Web access... sets up a unique 3G network (parallel to that of AT&T, Verizon, etc.)
- Louis Gray
It was said the product would upload faster to YouTube, etc. than your own computer... because you need to use your computer for other tasks.
- Louis Gray
Seems like you could probably achieve the same thing with a local copy of Squid.
- Marlin Forbes
If it's as bad as the La Fonera 1.0, I'll pass. Mine had a weak signal and was so unreliable I had to replace it with a better router. (A Buffalo WHR-HP-G54)
- Joshua Lee
Fonera 2.0 is like Verizon / Sprint Mifi with lots of home broadband USB host usage, but for $49 instead of $200+. You can probably get a battery for Fonera 2.0 as well.
- Charbax
Yeah - linkbait indeed. Disqus is already doing this with their Social conversations (or whatever it's called), with comments.
- Jesse Stay
It's not just linkbait, it's offensive. This kind of stuff should stop now.
- Dave Winer
Dave, agreed. I'm less likely to use JS-Kit from this, personally.
- Jesse Stay
I'm sure not going to write about it as long as they're doing that. And I would consider trying it out on one of my sites, but not until they upgrade their marketing. The Disqus team is a class act, I have a lot of loyalty to Daniel, and they've never resorted to these kinds of tactics.
- Dave Winer
When I went to the MotoGP race at Laguna Seca, as I was the guest of the team that came in second. They were all over the winning team, congratulating them, hugging them, they seemed genuinely happy for them. I told them later that this wasn't the way it was done in my business, and I thought -- wouldn't it be great if it were.
- Dave Winer
It used to be this way. I sent flowers to Rob Campbell at Forethought when he got the deal with Microsoft that I wanted. We competed ferociously, but when it was over, I wanted to leave it on a high note.
- Dave Winer
I hope the JS-Kit guys read this, and it would be nice to get an email saying they got the message and they're going to stick to telling us what's good about their product, and they will speak kindly of their competition in the future. They can feel however they want, but we're not in the battle with them, and we're not going to sympathize with their war metpahors.
- Dave Winer
Dave, I agree - I love Daniel and team. I loved his answer when I asked him where they were at the #crunchup and he said, "working". :-)
- Jesse Stay
@Dave - I've been participating in all your threads today - I often do - no different for this one ;) - We think Disqus is an excellent company with a great Commenting product. We sincerely believe, though, that commenting is no longer as relevant as the global set of social gestures created by content. As a result Echo treats them as 1st class citizens and renders them in real time - you will find this is very different from Disqus' excellent comment product
- Chris Saad
There's a table of differences between commenting (our old product included) and Echo at the bottom of the echo page. Roll over the rows to get more detail if you are interested.
- Chris Saad
Chris, I'm keeping an open mind, in fact you're going to get an invite from badhair.us shortly, but if your product is that good, you don't need such strong hype. We were interested before the "death of comments" stuff. (The fact that Scoble was blown away by your product was enough. You didn't even need to go to the crunchup and I didn't see the demo there. I know Scoble bases his opinion on use, most of the time, so I'll always look at a product he raves about.)
- Dave Winer
I understand Dave - the messaging was pretty stark. Erick and Steve wanted us to make the point more clearly (based on their feedback from rehearsals) so we did. But you will notice that on the blog post and the site we declare comments 'Evolved'. In any case I appreciate you having an open mind and look forward to supporting your needs with Echo if you in fact choose to give it a go
- Chris Saad
Drop me an email to chris@js-kit.com and I will make sure you get priority support
- Chris Saad
I hope Disqus gets its own version of pulling in all conversations made as an offshoot of a blog post into the blog itself. So I don't have to move again. I hate this endless hopping from one blog commenting platform to another.
- jan geronimo
Dave, Chris, I'm open to learning from all vendors --link bait titles or not.
- Jeremiah Owyang
i like short presentations. it means the software is simple.
- Scott Magdalein
I balked at the point where, to get an invite, I had to spam all my twitter followers. No thank you. I hate reading canned tweets, and I refuse to send canned tweets. I was really torn whether to use js-kit of disqus for my new site, but now my decision is made :\.
- Adam Lasnik
I usually say "marketing" and leave it at that.
- Herb Hernandez
With difficulty... makes me wish I had a child friendly job, like 'Teacher', 'Police Office', 'Soldier'
- Ian D. Nock
I'm a "Network Integration Engineer". Just between you and me, I do installation, integration, troubleshooting, and training for my company's like of data center power, cooling, monitoring, and security products. I tell my family that I work with computers.
- Ha3rvey #teamMonique
after 3 years, they still can't understand that I'm having a real job :)
- Dimitar Tsonev
When I say that my work is on the Internet, my family/friends hear something akin to "geek." This explains why I get calls because their Yahoo home page isn't loading, and what can they do...? (For the record, Aunt Sadie, I have no idea.)
- Ann Handley
I just say "I make the email work." That's usually enough, though only part of what I do.
- Jennifer Dittrich