Jeremiah Owyang
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Steve Rubel posted a link
Friendfeed (which I still love) Has Jumped the Shark
yesterday at 5:19 pm - via Bookmarklet - Link
Uh oh. Not as bad as the Dow but still... - Steve Rubel via Bookmarklet
Is that really jumping the shark, or just leveling out? - K.G. Schneider
@KG time will tell. Twitter's rise continues http://tinyurl.com/5hdqyx - Steve Rubel
You know better than I do Steven, but I believe those who have not fully adopted online communications like those of us here regularly, abandon social media, (and perhaps a lot of internet uses), for more tactile time spend during downturns. I've witnessed folks behaviors changed en mass, directed by circumstances. Could be enough to explain most of that, because I think generally, their more tuned product is accelerating in usefulness. - Ed Shaz/NextInstinct
Whoa! what happened? - Susan Beebe
Unique visitors is an interesting statistic but it's clear that the real value to FF will be engagement. Returning visitors, visits per day, dwell time etc. will show the real power of FF. - AJ Kohn
So what are you doing to help turn this momentum around (goes for all of you above)? - Louis Gray
I think that the craziness of the economy has had an effect... people are spending more time off-line (I know I have) and less likely to be looking for new things. I think it will turn around after a while. - Lindsay Donaghe
I use FF in my email sig, tell friends, drop it in my blog from time to time. - AJ Kohn
Louis: my thesis. People aren't getting enough value out of this and are seeing it as a time drain. Also, I'm seeing people staying away from online sites that cover politics and economic news in order to stay away from mental pain. Those things get better in November. It'll be interesting to see if the line goes back up then. But we need new features to cure the first thing. I think they are on the way. - Robert Scoble
I thinking the same thing as Robert. I also think that many avid users have found that this can be an incredible time sink, and have had to back off a little. - Jeff P. Henderson
could also be attributed to employees spending more time on their tasks and less time browsing FF. - Tsega Dinka
but I also pedict that with winter around the corner and more people spending longer hours indoors, the traffic will be going back up. - Tsega Dinka
Louis, I may have just converted my wife - does that count? ;-) - Jesse Stay
maybe if there were more Joe 6pack examples of the value in the world Joe lives in they would be more inclined to use it. Telling people how important it is won't teach them as well as showing them by example. - Chris Kim A
Noise. - Mike Reynolds
Friendfeed jumped for me when it became a chat room for popular bloggers and their stalkerish followers. Give me twitter with Twitscoop any day. - Wayne Schulz
Maybe FF would like to give its fans incentives to help them be successful. I keep hoping some company has the guts to try to include their users in the prosperity we create, together. It's a good time for out of the box thinking, no? - Dave Hussein Winer
heck, if friendfeed would consider sharing revenues from ads in the rooms - that would really be something! - Zee from WeDoCreative
Could you layer the stock market graph over the same timeframe? Would there be a similarity in the graphs? - Hutch Carpenter
@Wayne..haha and twitter isn't a chat room for popular bloggers & stalkerish followers...? lol... - Zee from WeDoCreative
Does the drop correlate with the release of the list feature? - todd
todd - there's an interesting question. - Hutch Carpenter
If it really is a drop (it's not a drop in traffic btw, just the number of times it's been mentioned on the web, a measure of buzz if anything) it probably correlates to Twitter becoming reliable again and luring back its users, which was a slow process of rebuilding trust. There's absolutely no doubt, looking at the graph, that FF benefited when Twitter was going down all the time. - Dave Hussein Winer
This is a bad trend for FF, period - Ben Parr
what goes up must come down.. natural even for tech... - Mark L via twhirl
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directeur posted a message
“Premonition 2.0”
Premonition 2.0
yesterday at 1:16 pm - via NoiseRiver - Link
I don't want a social life. - Kaia is a party pooper.
Can't lose something that you didn't have to begin with. (I mean the general "you"). - Helen Hoefele
If you use it incorrectly, or you don't pay attention to how you're using it (which many probably are), then yes, this might be true. But if you continue to value the people around you and human interaction, then this isn't true. Just my two cents. - Kate Brodock via twhirl
Not having a social life is what got me into computers in the first place... - Jason R. Hunter
Internet communities are a social life (as was "pen pals" in a previous age). Does it really matter if you meet people "in person"? If so, perhaps we'll have more FriendFeed gatherings in the future. FlyerTalk.com people regularly have "DO"s around the world. ~200 of my Facebook friends are dance/Burning-Man friends who dance/party every week. - Mitchell Tsai
Having a social life never did anything good for me. I like my online peeps much better. - Bec
If I didn't have an online life I wouldn't have a life offline. All the people I know and like I've met online. My friend/coworker only lives in MD because she met her boyfriend online. I met the partner-in-crime online. I found a dog breeder online... - Nine (werepanda)
Wait, so we're not being social right now? - Mona N.
Yes. This is antisocial media. Now git offa mah lawn. - Nine (werepanda)
Mona apparently not?! huh?! :*) - Susan Beebe
I've been online for so long, I can actually tell how a person is in real life by the way the conduct themselves online. And truth be told, I prefer my online friends since it's a collective folks with similar interests. - Mona N.
It can still be a real surprise meeting an on-line friend for the first time. Screechy voice. Unusual accents. Very different look from pictures. Surprise about height. Depending on the person, some people are easier to get-to-know on-line...others are much easier to connect with in person. - Mitchell Tsai
I met my wife online. We've been together over ten years. - Ian Hussein Maverick May
What social life???? - Amit Morson
This sounds like a fun game, Mona. Guess my age and weight and win the prize! - Daniel J. Pritchett
THE FUTURE OF! Now get off my entry! You associal folks! :) - directeur
Scientific American (Sep 2008?) suggested that the "increased information sharing" in Facebook and other social media may produce a "primitive society" or "small town" effect where the community knows most of what's happening - for better or for worse. Their view was very old-school - concerned about allowing people the "opportunity to reinvent themselves" and running away from (concealing) a past where they badly f**ked up. - Mitchell Tsai
"opportunity to reinvent themselves" I was a * up. Thank God for opportunity. - Kimberly Bock
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Baratunde Thurston posted a message
“reading a MYSQL server report. i am SUCH a geek. i love it!”
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Paul Buchheit posted a link
Fury over cat eating festival | The Sun |News
October 8 at 9:16 am - via Bookmarklet - Link
"The 'Gastronomical Festival of the Cat' – dubbed the 'Massacre of the Moggies' – sees townsfolk in Canete, near Lima, feast on the fluffy pets for two days. They believe that eating cat burgers – and fried cat legs and tails – can cure bronchial disease. It is also believed that feline meat serves as an aphrodisiac. The cats are bred especially for this festival – which takes place at the end of September on the Day of Santa Ifigenia." - Paul Buchheit via Bookmarklet
LOLLUNCH :) - Paul Buchheit
I can't like this, but I do like your comment. - elroy
OM NOM NOM - Gabe
No... :( - BeeLing
LEAVE THE LOLCATZ ALOOONE! - Dobromir Hadzhiev
Oh noez! :( - AJ Batac ♘
*cries* - Yolanda
Tails? 4srsly? - Mark VandenBerg
that is so wrong, cats are great and should not be eaten. - Jeremy Campbell via twhirl
*Cries* - Ron
all animals are great and shouldn't be eaten. ... except the chicken. chicken are dinner food. - Nine (werepanda)
:O :O :O :(((( - Maryam Ardakani
Like lambs, but I eat lamb. Like cows, eat them too, ducks are quite cute, wouldn't say no to a nicely roasted duck breast, chickens have character, and taste really good... ...I'm sure if I was somewhere where I didn't understand the language, and no-one miowed at me, i'd not only eat cat, but i'd probably like the taste too. - Vicky Pearce
I see the picture and keep misreading the title of the story as "Furry over cat eating festival" - Andrei M. Marinescu
@Vicky: but cats are too intelligent to be served as dimsum... :,-( - Ron
What's the big deal? Every night is an eating festival for my cats! - Gabe
WoW , Delicious Kitty :D - Farzad
I love cats! They taste just like chicken. :) - Adam Lasnik
The other, other white meat? - Mark VandenBerg
@Adam I totally thought you said "taste just like children"! I laughed at something you didn't say. - Renee Pie
I can was cheezburger - Paul Buchheit
liked for Paul's cheezburger comment :-) - mathew ingram
very different than the furry cat overeating festival - Ivan Kirigin
I'm thinking about shifting my diet from vegetables and meat (very little, actually, I'm a quasi-tarian) to PETA activists. My cat, too, and he's all "I can has PETAburger". - dario
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Jennifer Leggio posted a message
“I think it's funny how animals can sense when one is sick or upset. Wait, not funny. Awesome. :)”
October 6 at 9:39 pm - Link
If people took the time to STFU sometimes, they would be able to sense these things too....lol - Rah™
Haha, good point. :) - Jennifer Leggio
Awwww. My pooch always knew when momma needed a cuddle. He didn't even complain when I just wanted to cry and watch Forensic Files - Kaia is a party pooper.
Aww! That is cute. My cat keeps putting her little paw out and patting my foot, then going back to sleep. She's done it about four times. So funny. She knows I'm having a frustrating night. :) - Jennifer Leggio
Pets FTW! - Bored
Definitely amazing how animals sense stuff, though. I mention the talking part because I've notice my kids, before they learn to start running their little mouths, know what I'm talking about without me saying stuff most times. They also sense agitation and stuff like that. - Rah™
I've grown up with animals and they always seem to know when you're down...amazing! Even my horse would come along side and rub on my and sorta hug me against its body by wrapping his neck around me ...soo cool! My cat licked my tears when I was a child. Dog howled when I was mourning....they know - Susan Beebe
Now if they could sense the turns in economics... Though our cats sold all their stocks last year, so maybe that was a sign... - Jemm
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Paul Buchheit posted a link
Official Gmail Blog: New in Labs: Stop sending mail you later regret
October 6 at 6:59 pm - via Bookmarklet - Link
"When you enable Mail Goggles, it will check that you're really sure you want to send that late night Friday email. And what better way to check than by making you solve a few simple math problems after you click send to verify you're in the right state of mind?" - Paul Buchheit via Bookmarklet
Too bad I don't have Labs in my workplace's hosted domain Gmail account - that's where I really need it! - Chu Yeow
Like!!! Uber-Geeky. - AJ Batac ♘
hilarious ! - Ron Shoshani
I'm still too good at math at the bottom of the bottle - Amber aka SDA
Maybe it should measure your reaction times instead of forcing you to do math. I'm thinking, "punch the monkey". - Paul Buchheit
=Amber -- need to be able to choose how difficult your math problems are. - j1m
the interesting thing is, the most powerful part is just the second-guess: it doesn't have to be a math problem. just a simple "do you really want to send this" reminder might do... - Taylor Davidson
How about letting my Gmail friends review my Drafts, only drafts that get liked will be sent out :-) - Majento
@Taylor: I think the math problem -- or something like it -- is essential. Don't know about you, but I've "permanently deleted" countless files just because I reflexively hit "Okay" when the warning dialog box popped up. Without the math problem to keep one honest, one will end up clicking past warnings in an unconscious, mechanistic manner. *I* would, at least. - Chester
@Chester: I'll buy that. Needs to be more than just a reminder... but the question doesn't have to be math. The key, as you point out, is for the question to require you to answer something... - Taylor Davidson
+1 Majento - Raymond
Stooopid-O-Meter FTW! - Susan Beebe
Brilliant - Bwana McCall
Ditto Bwana - About 10 years overdue - Charlie Anzman
whoa, this could've come in handy... - sami
Chester, have you learned not to reflexively click buttons yet? :P - Tanath
When will they come out with "delayed sending"? I want to have 60 seconds after I click send before the email is actually sent. That little bit of time would stop a lot of confusion. - Benjamin Golub
These are all half-assed suggestions. What we all really need is for our e-mail app to read our minds *and* know better than ourselves whether or not a message should be sent out before further review. - Chester
Is this for real? - Jamelle
Two problems with this gadget, a) I want to make it trigger on every email, but after you solve the problems successfully, there's a window during which you can send more outgoing emails unchallenged; b) even at max difficulty level 5 the problems take only 15 seconds to solve sober - it seems unlikely that they'd take more than twice as long to solve when drunk - though I will have to verify that experimentally, I guess. - ƃuɐʞ
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Alex "Lasagna" Scoble posted a message
“Where's all this talk about hating coming from? I've seen Robert going off on a crusade to find new people on friendfeed and Kyle saying that everyone hates him. Dudes...this is the time when we need to be working together not falling apart at the seams. Yeah, this storm is going to be rough...”
October 6 at 7:43 pm - Link
but we'll weather it just like every other storm before it. Because that's what we do. - Alex "Lasagna" Scoble
Alex. I have sent out the Peanut Butter Jelly signal, and you have not responded!!! - Monique via fftogo
someone spiked the Friendfeed with hatorade. - Pete Delucchi
Alex - My one largest fear in this scenario is the emotions of people that could translate into crime or worse. That's why I tried to play Robert's gloom and doom piece down. The media has already taken care of emotions making the situation worse. - Charlie Anzman
Sorry, Monique...I didn't see it until I saw your comment...It's Peanut Butter Jelly Time! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v... - Alex "Lasagna" Scoble
Alex.. It's a hate love relationship.. I love you.... You love me... We're a happy family.. with a great big HUG! and a..... hand shake from me to youuuuuuu - Kyle Lacy
@Alex: +1,083. The gloom and doom, emotional knee-jerk, bitch and moan stuff ... what does it really accomplish? "I don't worry about nothing, cause worrying is a waste of my time." Deal with what's right in front of you. We'll weather the storm and might even become stronger for it. Here's the more poetic version: http://www.everypoet.com/archi... - AJ Kohn
oh no what did i miss? :[ - Brandon
I love Kyle, he's one of my favourite FFers. And I found it quite odd that R. Scoble subscribed to me today until I found out he was on a storm... makes sense now.. - Jasmin Smith
Maybe I should call Robert and see what's going on. - Alex "Lasagna" Scoble
omfg, robert just subscribed to me. Is the world coming to an end? Or is he doing this just to test his scalability theories for his upcoming interview? Why would he be following a bonehead like me?! :P - imabonehead
I've been away for a couple of days..WTF is going on you guys? we're family....don't loose it now! - Susan Beebe
Oh OK, I talked to him on the phone...he's just having fun. We agree on where the economy is headed, but I think his use of the term "death spiral" is a bit over the top. - Alex "Lasagna" Scoble
what the? Alex, you've just made something out of absolutely nothing. - Zee from WeDoCreative
We are a family that argues all the time. - Morton Fox
@Alex: +2,458 for being a good brother. - AJ Kohn
AJ: he did call. He didn't get me off of my death spiral theme, though. But now maybe it's the wine. Pretty damn good Benzinger. I wonder what @garyvee would think? - Robert Scoble
@Robert ask him. I think I read he was pulling an all-nighter tonight. - Kyle Lacy
I don't hate Robert at all. I am glad I missed the doom and gloom. I don't want to know what went on. I think it's time to move on. - Molly, the Vampy Vampire
Alex & Robert - glad to hear all is well. More wine please! must try out the Benzinger! - Susan Beebe
I really don't think that self fulfilling prophesy's have as much weight in our current economic situation as people are giving them. And even if they did, we should respect Scooble's right to freedom of speech and not hating on him for an opinion that he has. - Bryan Saxton
@Robert: Wine is a good panacea! I do have some old vine Bogle around here. - AJ Kohn
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Mona N. posted a link
Turtle Gets a New Set of Wheels After Dog Bites off Legs
Turtle Gets a New Set of Wheels After Dog Bites off Legs
October 6 at 10:29 pm - Link
oh no that's so wrong... (the dog part) :[ - Brandon
The Peninsula Humane Society stuck wheels on the turtle!! (It's my local Humane Society... I know it's not funny but I can't stop laughing) - Mona N.
Go Well, Go Shell... - John Worthington
Pimp My Reptile - John Worthington
HAHAHHAHAHA - Mona N.
poor turtle! - Susan Beebe
Fastest turtle on Earth - Jemm
"Goes cruising just as fast as she can now, and shell have fun, fun, fun til her daddy takes the turtle away" - John Worthington
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA - Anna Haro
I KNOW!! HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA - Mona N.
OMG, that is the winningest thing I've seen all day! - Bec
TOTALLY, I *love* this! - Mona N.
That's the awesomest thing I've seen all day. - Rodfather
John, John, John...how do you do it....LMFAO - Rah™
Tonka is OK... would have preferred Speed Racer though... - John Worthington
Pimp My Reptile - John Worthington <---I'm STILL laughing at that HAHAHAH - Mona N.
But, that's a tortoise...with wheels... - WorldofHiglet
That's turtle wax! - Mona N.
That turtle is awesome, and its way rad that they found a way for it to survive, but I just want to put a little speaker on it that plays "Lowrider" nonstop...is that bad? - Joe Pierce
"They see me rooooooolliiiiiin...." - Rah™
hahhahahahhahaha! I can't stop laughing! I think I'm going to hell. :\ - Mona N.
Oh dear me! - Kate Foy
fastest,at least one of the fastest turtles of the world~ - daisylinbluez
I like turtles. - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
I can't watch this! Poor little turtle! - آقای راحت
Kowabunga Dude! Real-life Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles on skateboards now? Awesome. - Craig Overend
Ouch. I'm glad someone cared enough to save this little guy (or gal)! - Mike Reynolds
Awesome that there are those that still care about the little guys. I say let the turtle munch on the dog's legs for a couple of hours. Then the dog can get a set of wheels of his own. Maybe the turtle and the dog would end up being friends, cruising main street on Saturday nights with their tricked out wheels. Maybe get some hydraulics for the turtle's wheels. And hook the dog with a nitrous kit and a wheely bar so he doesn't feel left out. Either that, or put them both to sleep at the local humane society - Morgan Haley
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Social Media: Marianne posted a link
The ladder of participation in social media — Internet Time Blog
The ladder of participation in social media — Internet Time Blog
October 5 at 6:35 am - via Reshare - Link
explains some things ... - Gregory Lent
representing the youth! - genieyclo
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Marc Canter published a video on YouTube
Canter family theme song
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October 4 at 5:49 pm - Link
Very nice - Jeremiah Owyang
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Gabe Rivera posted a message on Twitter
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Jeremy Toeman posted a message
“Why on Earth would anyone want their leaders to seem like "regular Americans"? I want my employers, employees, friends, elected officials, and anyone else around me to IMPRESS THE HECK out of me. I want to be intellectually challenged. I want to learn. I *never* want "Team C+" in charge.”
October 2 at 10:16 pm - Link
I would expect the leaders of our country to absolutely WOW me simply by their presence. I can see normal people anywhere, but that is one arena where I think people should seem larger than life. The other would be in movies. - Rah™
Well, common sense says that a regular American can relate to the problems of other regular Americans, and thus be better equipped to decide how to address their concerns. There's nothing that says a regular American can't also be intelligent, except your pre-conceived notions of what that word means. - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
@Mark the point is, there's NO SUCH THING as a "regular American". if there were, this wouldn't be such a divisive race... - Jeremy Toeman
I would. I remember how embarrassed I was when George HW Bush showed such a fascination with a checkout scanner in a grocery story. The fact that he was blissfully unaware of technology that had been in use for a decade or more showed just what an ivory tower he lived in. - Glen C
Because again, our country is uncertain. This time, about economics. People want leaders who understand them. (us?) - Mona N.
culture of mediocrity imo. it's "elitist" to sound smart or be well-informed. people seem to get offended by that - Cee Bee
Listen to yourselves: you're equating "regular American" with "unimpressive, not intellectually challenging" (Jeremy) or "mediocre, not smart, uninformed" (Cee Bee). Your pretentiousness astounds me. - Glen C
Glen - i never claimed i was better than average/regular. that's basically my entire point. if i draw a bell curve and ask myself "who should lead?" i would not choose from the middle. - Jeremy Toeman
...and my belief is that someone who is intellectually challenging or well-informed can still "seem like a regular American." It doesn't matter to me how smart or charismatic someone is if they're out of touch with the rest of us. The alternative sounds too much like, "let them eat cake." - Glen C
I don't get it either... Palin had just finished a spiel about how she was a regular person just like all of us and in the next sentence talks about how America is set as an example of "Exceptionalism" to the rest of the world. How can you be regular and exceptional at the same time? I'd much rather have exceptional governing me than regular. That doesn't mean exceptional can't have come from a regular background and identify with me, but I want someone smarter than me as my leader. - Lindsay Donaghe
"The one thing that unites all human beings, regardless of age, gender, religion, economic status, or ethnic background, is that, deep down inside, we all believe that we are above-average drivers." (Dave Barry) - Glen C
It's cause everyone picked on the smart kids at school and don't want to now admit it to themselves that they were wrong to do it. - John Worthington
@Lindsay: It's not logically difficult to scan. Our normal is considered exceptional to much of the world. Even in the midst of economic crisis, our nation's poor, well, to quote my old tagline, have big screen TVs. Not so for much of the world. - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
Agree with John, we are the bully-jock, clique-cheerleader nation. - Lindsay Donaghe
Mark... we really don't. We judge you on your actions, not your posessions. - John Worthington
It's called an example, John. You want an actions-based example? Regular plain old Americans are the guys everyone else in the world calls when a Tsunami, earthquake or genocide happens. We generally come in and fix it, pay for it, and leave. I was trying to make a point about how the statement wasn't illogical. I've done it again. Any other questions? - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
call it pretentiousness if you'd like, but the fraudulent populism being espoused by some of the candidates is nothing but a ploy to pander to a culture of people who are consistently led to vote against their own interests because they're fooled into thinking they can have a beer with a candidate. - Cee Bee
when you catapult a person void of intellectual training relevant to the challenges and responsibilities that await him/her in a position of such high responsibility it gives nothing, but the impression that there's a mad love of mediocrity in this country, especially when it comes to politics. people get hung up on the ordinary. i want my president to be more than that - Cee Bee
Sorry Mark, I never knew being generous and charitable was something exclusive to the US. - John Worthington
Being simply generous and charitable is not the same thing as what I said, and you know it if you're honest with yourself. Can you be honest with yourself, or do your deeply held beliefs prevent you from following the logic of what I said? - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
Jesus, Mark, how jingoistic do you have to be? Sure, the US is a great country, but it's not some kind of universally benevolent force. Wasn't just Americans helping out with the tsunami. And did you 'fix' Iraq? - Alexander Carlill
It's why Bush won in 2000, also. More people wanted to "have a beer with him." They actually liked the fact that he was clueless and incurious. Look how awesome that worked out, Joe Six Pack!! We get the government we deserve. - Anthony Citrano
Anthony: I love you. - Mona N.
No, you said "Our normal is considered exceptional to much of the world". And I'm saying your 'normal' isn't really that better than anyone else. The ability to be called apon to be generous/kind/loving/peaceful/smart is not just a US trait and indeed people with far less give far more in a range of fields. In regards to your presidential candidate, please vote for the best and the brightest. You don't owe it to us, you owe it to yourselfs. They don't make you captain cause you can cook and scrub the deck.. - John Worthington
Some of it, stems from the belief that people who think of them selves as part of "Team A+" look down their nose at you... Because they do. - J. Abdul-Qahhar
Now that is pirate logic Mark... - John Worthington
No John, again, you're parsing words. I was pointing out the logic of the statement. And @Alexander, it isn't fanatically patriotic to be logical. Try reading the context before you toss out accusations. - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
Mark, can you describe which Americans are not "regular plain old" Americans? (Thanks.) - Ayşe E.
@Ayse: I tried three times. The FriendFeed text box doesn't contain enough character spaces to answer that question (which would no doubt be misinterpreted about twenty ways by others on this thread). - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
Mark, I have no issue with your explanation, trust me I get it. I just took exception (possibly wrongly) to the implication that somehow my 'normal' is any less valid or worthy than your 'normal' - John Worthington
agreed. - Patricia
Apparently Mark's version of exceptional is possession of a big screen TV. And coming and fixing things and paying for them! You know, like countries in the middle east and stuff. *cue national anthem* .. wow, and we wonder why we're in the shit we're in. - Anthony Citrano
@Mona - love you too, it may not be too late for that third party run. ;) - Anthony Citrano
Just on a side note... I gotta change my Avatar... How the hell am I suppose to be taken seriously when it's me in a pirate hat... *sigh* :) - John Worthington
Mark, to single out American global aid as somehow unique is hardly 'logical'. And just so you know, when genocide occurs, they don't call in the US. They call in the UN. - Alexander Carlill
Who funds the UN, Alexander? Who are most of the peacekeepers, Alexander? How is the size and scope of American global aid not unique, Alexander? Everything you just said either flawed or false. - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
Anthony: do you even understand what exceptional means? Something that is not normal or is above average in some way. This whole stupid debate we're having on this feed is all about how something can be normal for America, but exceptional compared to the rest of the world. It's possible, and I showed two possible examples. That's it. That's all that was needed to prove my point. You guys may not like them, but they're true. - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
Mark: Do you even understand that every comment you make on FriendFeed is basically the same? - Anthony Citrano
The whole premise posed at the beginning of this discussion is an example of class warfare. Specifically, the desire of wanna-be elitists for a *ruling class*, and for that ruling class to be superior in every way over others. How Arrogant. - Art Lindsey III
@Anthony: that's because all you and your friends all say the same things. when I come through and point out the same fallacies, lies and incorrect statements all the time, I'm sure it sounds like I'm repeating myself. - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
How elitist to want someone to be qualified for a job. - Anthony Citrano
Yep, Mark, that must be it. Lack of illumination on our part. - Anthony Citrano
Sarah Palin is the most qualified on both tickets. Like it or not, it's true. I'll take a Governor over a Senator any day. - Art Lindsey III
I knew we'd get a punch line in here eventually. Thanks, Art. We can close this one up now. - Anthony Citrano
Try again. A senator has always been considered to be in a higher position than a governor. (Didn't you learn that in high school? Do they still teach government in high school?) Why do you think there's talk of Arnold Whatshisname running for the Senate? Besides, the population of Alaska is about the same as Fort Worth or Memphis. (Those cities aren't even in the top 10!) - Oliver Ortega Chua
@anthony: hey, it must be. that or a lack of will or ability to go and, you know, check facts and or scan for logic. or definitions of words. I don't make up the dictionary. I just read it. - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
School? Okay, I will now take you to it. What is key is EXECUTIVE experience. Governors are akin to presidents. They They actually run things. They manage people and assets (Billions of dollars, even in ALASKA) and make decisions, and they go to work every day. Senators do not. All they do is vote on bills, when they decide to show up. Senators are out of touch with The American people. Why do you think we havent elected a senator in almost 50 years? Arnold Schwarzenegger in the Senate? Really? If he is, it - Art Lindsey III
is only because he is constitutionally prohibited from running for the Presidency. Before you belittle my schooling, you should look at your history, and learn how American government actually functions. - Art Lindsey III
"I'll take a Governor over a Senator any day"... Like say Governor G W Bush of Texas... yeah, no thanks. - John Worthington
Going back to the original point and maybe slightly off it but we're having a similar issue with our political leaders. David Cameron has been criticised because he is a ex-public school boy and that he is not like the average joe in the UK. But it's not important, it's important that he has people underneath him that are from different backgrounds and have different experiences but for the leader (one individual) to be an everyman is impossible and is stupid for people to want that! - Kol Tregaskes
In regards to employers, well most of my boss's have turned into friends. I still respect them as a boss but if I can't get on with them, i.e. are friendly and approachable them I'm not really interested in working for/with them. So I guess it depends on the employee and employer. - Kol Tregaskes
@Mark, I'm genuinely curious how we distinguish between (groups of) Americans. Could you give me just a brief sketch (I won't hold you to its not being exhaustive) or take two text boxes if you need? Thanks. - Ayşe E.
Yes, we want the A Team. So let's get Mr. T in there. - Mike Reynolds
love this sentiment! me too... I'm looking for a leader who has **intellectual curiosity** about things that are complicated and different (people, places, beliefs, ideas, science/technology innovations, etc.) and **genuine passion** for helping all Americans to become safer, smarter and happier (which includes wealthier and healthier). FWIW "safer" to me does not include banning personal ownership of guns or going into other countries to "clean things up and spread democracy, capitalism and/or religion." - Jon Price
@Art I'm not going to go back and forth with you because, obviously, I'm not going to change your mind and vice versa. (If you look, that's how I usually conduct myself online. My two cents and I'm done.) Anyway, I just want to clarify that I never said that Gov. Schwarzenegger was in the Senate; only that there's been talk of him running after his term limit is hit. Also, I want to apologize if I offended you. My comment was more of a commentary on the state of education in America since civics is no longe - Oliver Ortega Chua
r taught in much of the US. I'm sorry. I didn't mean it to be an attack on you. If you check my record, I try to refrain from "belittling" people, politicians/celebrities excepted. :) - Oliver Ortega Chua
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Except that one guy who appears to be handicapped from flying. - Brandon Titus
Oh snap! - Rah™
I'll ask the question: if the picture were of a bunch of black people in mid-jump and the caption were "Jesus Christ: It's an army of flying blacks/Africans/negroids", would it be considered funny?" Why or why not? Compare and contrast. - Chester
+1 Chester - Alexander Carlill
I agree with Chester. This is racist. It might have been okay if they'd said something like "oh noes, the army of North Korea now haz powers of levitation!" or something silly like that without directly alluding to their race. - Kamilah Gill
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