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*thinks about bursting into a high pitched rendition of "I'm Your Lady And You Are My Man" but decides it wouldn't help*
- Johnny Worthington
Goddang! "Hay Paw! You need yer walker?" FML...Seriously.
- Sue Radd
Hey, be fair, this is very difficult territory for a guy. "Do I introduce her as friend? Lover? Intended? Casual screw? Occasional aquaintance? Person I secretly hate? Dinner?"
- Slippy "Threadsbane" Lane
Safe to say Friend. Then it leaves it open. Granted it could piss her off considering she may think its more. But if you want a title change then put in the proper forms.. ;)
- CW™
:O
- Moved to Facebook
I used to work with a guy who referred to his girlfriend as his "lady friend". I mean, on a regular basis. It became a running joke with the rest of our department. Because it just sounded so damn seedy...
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
3 apps to check username availability across all sites at once – http://thenextweb.com/2009... by @TheNextWeb
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Why do you think there have been so many versions of the tech press? The next ones to go are TC, Mashable, Gigaom, RWW, PaidContent etc.
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do you mean you think they will go bust?
- David Lloyd
If they aren't careful, and don't adhere to established journalism ethical standards, I suspect that's just what he means.
- Gregg Morris
I've yet to see one do it. In the end the companies require complicity in order for the reporters to have access to rollouts, betas, etc. The ones that survive are the ones with access. What it takes are companies with the guts to not take shortcuts. If FB didn't give the reporters favorable treatment, they'd get killed in the press, but they also wouldn't be dependent on them. They don't want to take the chance, so they take the shortcut.
- Dave Winer
seems like most of them (tech press) evolve from initially objective, to chummy, to the dispensers of what is hot or not, and finally, to telling every tech company they come across what their strategy should be
- mike
But the wild card is that the users have better and better communication tools, so the route-arounds happen faster. TechCrunch is just four years old and was started with almost no investment capital. Compare that to the millions needed to start news.com. When TechCrunch is replaced it'll be with someone with a $0 investment as well. The only thing they won't have is access, which at the turning point will be seen as an advantage by users. (Not an insider, telling the truth, not being a lap dog.)
- Dave Winer
Now if one of these guys tells FB to fuck off, or tells Twitter to take them off the SUL so they can blast the others for being on it -- all bets are off. We might just get out of the spiral. We're at a pretty important point in the cycle, imho.
- Dave Winer
What about Leo Laporte's TWiT Network model? Will he eventually be the 'next to go'?
- Chris Heath
Did FB reserve Leo's name? Is Leo on the SUL? I don't think Leo is inside. He probably *wants* to be, but he isn't.
- Dave Winer
For all Leo's success he has never been *that* influential in the tech world. I was at an Nvidia show last year, and the diggnation podcast Kevin Rose etc were doing a live show and they had private parking for the whole team, wifi access etc, Leo was doing a live TWiT show and had no parking spot reserved, no internet access and no other perks at all. Leo is very much on the outside looking in.
- David Lloyd
But Mark, that's how reporters are *supposed* to be. That's how we want them to be. Proxies for us, not PR people for the people who make the products. Done right, it's not supposed to be a job for rich superstars, it's supposed to be a relatively thankless thing people do because they're passionate about what they do.
- Dave Winer
Part of that is because Leo does not talk to PR people. But Dave, Leo does have a facebook page already... http://facebook.com/LeoLaporte
- Chris Heath
Scoble does that sort of thing. He champions companies, gets inside and is more evangelist than reporter. Why isn't he in your list?
- Debi Jones
Debi, good question. I don't really know what he does. I'm going to wait until his site becomes public, which should be in just a few hours, before even beginning to form an opinion.
- Dave Winer
I can tell you the site is built around video interviews and they are in the same style as his interview shows for all the companies he has worked for. When it comes to videos, Scoble has essentially done the same job for all the companies he worked for: he just services a different master each time.
- David Lloyd
Of course, way before digg, Kevin Rose was first seen on the screen savers - which was created by leo laporte and patrick norton. I subscribed to comcast cable in 2000 specifically because they had the techtv channel.
- mike
TechCruch was built with sweat equity, I don't see it being duplicated or made irrellevant anytime soon.
- Christian Burns
Techcrunch will live on when Mike steps down
- David Lloyd
building43 is basically a wordpress blog with typical scoble interviews with some big names and some hidden gems. I am afraid it isn't going to change the world. Scoble's paid gig is to shill rackspace to startups and other tech companies.
- David Lloyd
If you want an idea of how it will all work @arrington did a QIK 20 minute video interview with scoble yesterday about the site and asked some excruciating questions which put Scoble on the spot.
- David Lloyd
Mark, do you have a link to that interview? Sounds worth checking out. They both irritate me at different times in different ways, so it should be fascinating. *grin*
- Ken Kennedy
Slight Correction mike, The ScreenSavers was originally hosted by Leo and Kate Botello http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Chris Heath
Chris, that is so right and she was hot, nerd gurl nirvana. thx for reminding me :)
- mike
20 minute interview with Arrington and Scoble: http://qik.com/video/1850783
- David Lloyd
I think you overestimate how much "insider info" we get, Dave. From Facebook, Twitter, etc? Almost never do we get warning. We're watching every news source and corporate blog like hawks. :)
- Ben Parr
For me I get my tech news from friendfeed so there is a shift under way. As for what I am I am trying to help this industry reach out to regular businesses and explain all of these new technologies.
- Robert Scoble
Ben, I don't know how cozy you are or aren't with the tech companies. But I know that you're pretty snug with Twitter. That much is visible. :-)
- Dave Winer
Journalists stay in business by cultivating relationships with sources - that's a pretty universal fact, not just with the tech press. It's always a dance to avoid getting too close and cushy for the sake of something less than pure motivations. In today's environment, though, the multiplicity of online channels in any market segment in conjunction with purely social media buffers us against this kind of corruption. As soon as someone spoons too lovingly for something they get outed.
- John Blossom
John, that's why blogging took off -- because the tech press was so rotten with the vendors, they'd never say anything negative about them. So when you wanted to find out if a product really worked, you'd do what we do now -- listen to other users. Amazon built an empire on that idea. Of all the Web 2.0 companies they may be the only ones who get that the press doesn't control what users know anymore, that the users are getting it for themselves.
- Dave Winer
I'm not so sure about any of these going boom anytime soon. There are still too many people reading them even though they seem to be to cozy with some of their sources (at least that's what it looks like to me from the outside without any real proof that this is even remotely true). And Leo's network isn't really comparable to any of these, in my opinion, simply because he seems to be looking at all this more from the outside and doesn't focus on one product or even group of products.
- Horst Gutmann
Mark: interesting, but it's pretty clear that you didn't watch any of the videos I put up on http://www.building43.com -- not one of them has shilling for Rackspace. As for if I'm doing the same thing I did at, say, Microsoft, Podtech, or Fast Company, well, I don't remember clicking like 19,000 times for Microsoft or Podtech. I am the only tech blogger who links more often to other tech bloggers than to myself.
- Robert Scoble
In Tech, like everything else, in the press makes you, the press can break you. Better to be succesful by engaging directly with customers.
- Robert Hafer
If you haven't noticed I don't do much "tech news" anymore. I didn't go to Apple's event. I didn't go to Google's event. Why? I knew I'd read about them in live time on Twitter and friendfeed. I choose to go to places other people can't get into. I have the first interview with Mark Zuckerberg inside Facebook's new offices. Did I learn much from that? No. The other interview with Caitlin from Facebook Pages actually teaches people more. But the Zuckerberg interview gets more hits.
- Robert Scoble
Arrington (good lord I hate when I have to give him props) did try to, for at least half an hour, last year champion that movement to ignore embargoes and force companies to abandon the model......Didn't last long and didn't follow through on it, but I think that has as much to do with no one else in the field giving him so much as a hurrah and that spitter/death threat thing.
- Matthew DeVries
As to the question, the tech press turns over when the technology they are covering changes and they don't recognize it. There are some who made their careers covering Microsoft. They were very popular in the 1990s. Now? Most of them you couldn't name. Another thing that causes them to turn over? Changes in audience behavior. We all used to get PCWeek or Infoworld on our desks every...
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- Robert Scoble
How sizeable is this shift? Almost everyone I invited to the party last night is on friendfeed. Everyone was on Facebook. If they didn't have their email address on Facebook, Google, or friendfeed, they didn't get invited. There weren't many entrepreneurs, press, bloggers, innovators, Silicon Valley insiders who I couldn't find an email for online and about 85% are already on friendfeed, a service Arrington says "no one" uses.
- Robert Scoble
Scoble please start another thread. Thanks...
- Dave Winer
I wouldn't put PaidContent, RWW and Gigaom in the same breath as Mashable. That seems patently unfair.
- Brandon Mendelson
When Scoble shows up that's the end of discourse. It's as if we have to fit everything inbetween his plane trips or when he's busy at a party or something that keeps him away from the computer. I'm not joking, he sucks all the oxygen out of a discussion.
- Dave Winer
Anyway, I just wrote a blog post about this thread. I'd encourage others to do the same. I find these long FF threads repetitive and Scoble-obsessed. This is an important idea. http://www.scripting.com/stories...
- Dave Winer
it sounds like there are a couple of things being discussed here and i'm not 100% sure they are connected. 1) media bias, and 2) changing of the guard in tech media. Chomsky's "propaganda model" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...) attempts to explain media bias in mainstream media. it's possible this model also applies (to some degree) to the tech press. bias itself doesn't mean people will reject you: look at Fox News.
- Karim
to the extent the tech press has a changing of the guard, or is constantly being reinvented, it seems just as likely to me it's because *technology* changes. BYTE magazine probably died because they were still doing articles on hardware hacking and algorithms when people had moved on to higher abstractions and were buying PCs & software off the shelf. it's not that BYTE had some kind of bias, it's just that it stuck to what it knew, failed to evolve, and became irrelevant.
- Karim
*if* TC dies it may be because they continue a focus on startups in an age when startups are less relevant -- not necessarily because they are in bed with anybody...
- Karim
I don't think they've been focusing *enough* on startups. Too much industry intrigue and venture capital insider stuff. More like a newsletter than an end-user thing. When they were great was when they captured the enthusiasm of the creative people. Now they're jaded and too into themselves. That misses the point, journalism works when it's a mirror, the simpler the better.
- Dave Winer
As an interesting aside, on the most recent Cranky Geeks podcast they were talking about the trend of journalists (especially tech journalists) becoming individual brands and celebrities in a sense and how that is a bad thing. To your point Dave, it wasn't until TechCrunch that I began to start to look first for the author on any post whereas before, I was merely aware of the overarching brand (website) I was visiting.
- Mike Bracco
To me, the author is a very important part of any piece of writing. Sometimes the byline tells me to pay more attention and sometime it tells me to take what I read with a grain of salt or pass altogether. I'm of the belief that past performance is a good way to measure people in professions like journalism. For instance, I'll be strongly biased against anything Judith Miller writes in the future because of her part in the Plame leak.
- Chris Heath
The importance of the author doesn't mean celebrity to me either, just to be clear. And Mike, I did just watch that ep of Cranky Geeks. Dan Goodin was exactly correct in saying that journos should be approaching each story from the outside if they wish to serve their readers and not the people and companies that they are writing about because that is how the reader approaches these products/services/etc.
- Chris Heath
What do consumers think about brands participating on twitter? Here is some research http://www.scribd.com/doc...
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Google Trends shows drops in Twitter news coverage, search volume » VentureBeat - http://venturebeat.com/2009...
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Sugar-high aftermath.
- τorƍue
Uh...praise Jesus?
- Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
...praise Mainstream.:)
- Igor Poltavskiy
I'd laugh hysterically, if it wasn't so true. Come on you know who you are... http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Twitter Proves Its Worth as a Killer App for Local Businesses - Advertising Age - Digital - http://adage.com/digital...
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Second to Al Gore for Nobel Prize was Irena Sendler - heroic story saving 2500 Jewish kids - New documentary http://www.irenasendlerfilm.com/
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Here's a little cool keyword to use on Scoopler, search for the word "Bookmarked" and you'll see people using delicious real time. http://www.scoopler.com/search...
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Top Chef @ilanhall announces the the Macaroni & Cheese recipe contest: http://www.youtube.com/watch... We're totally tight.
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Twitter Puts a Muzzle on Your Friends: Goodbye People I Never Knew http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
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steve gillmor, FTW. he just doesn't bother with the @. fixes that problem...track fixed the rest. Guess Twitter Search might be in for a workout.
- Karoli
Karoli I guess that's one good way to protest this :-)
- Jesse Stay
This post hits the nail on the head for me.
- Derrick
Recommendation still works via RTs and mentions of their name other than at the start. All this does is cut out the "@someone OK/LOL/whatever" noise. If you put the @ at the end instead of the beginning, everyone will see it. I liked being able to turn it on and off, but honestly, I kept it off most of the time.
- Mr. Gunn
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Can twitter please figure out a way to show threaded conversations? It's so annoying to see a feed full of half-conversations and have to click a link to backtrack and see the context of the tweet. I wish Jaiku won this micro-blogging battle 3 years ago. It was so much better than Twitter.
- deelirium
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True - threaded conversations would solve this issue and there is a logical way of implementing them into the current @reply system (by making use of the in_reply_to attribute)
- Jamie
RT #fixrepliesyourownway: write @[name] at the end of reply, or use a different symbol entirely, e.g. >[name] (via @shbadr)
- Sarah Badr
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Re: #fixrepliesyourownway After testing between two accounts for whom followers are not shared, it appears that it does make a difference whether or not you place the '@[name]' in the beginning or at the end of a reply. Generally, I tend to manually write out names rather than click 'send reply'. But even by writing it out, messages sent with '@[name]' in the beginning don't show up on...
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- Sarah Badr
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I was delighted when I found that I could turn off the one-sided @ replies - it meant that I could still follow some of the more prolific twitterers (I'm looking at you <a href="http://www.twitter.com/dahowle...">@dahowlett</a>...) without my stream being swamped with half conversations directed at people I don't know and don't need to know. But, although I don't miss the feature it's...
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- James Ward
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Just another reason why FriendFeed owns Twitter. I discover tons of great ppl via the FoF feature.
- Kate
I believe Twitter is trying to stave off a problem where spammers can take advantage of sending @reply messages into people's Twitter stream without following them. Good intentions, horrible execution. Al
- Al Degutis
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Continuing their undying commitment to suckitude, Twitter removed the configuration option, but left the relevant sidebar tip in place on the Settings -> Notices page, with a link to a help article that actually does a nice job of explaining the way @ replies used to work, and about which few people complained.
- Thomas Taylor
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+1 On the spam issue. I kept getting tagged in #followfriday posts from some guy who recommended like 500 people a week. I think we live in the same city, but I certainly don't know him or his work.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
6 degrees on Twitter was a good thing, let's hope they rethink this move and keep the masses happy eh?
- Neil Ferree
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I'm getting so tired of people thinking that this is twitter doing something new. It's not! If you're too clueless to get that, then you'll see no change, because what they just forced on everyone was already the default! The change only affects those of us who are literate enough to go in, read the settings, and change them to the more social option - the one they just took away. #fixreplies
- tollie williams
"While recommendations are interesting, I'd like to use my own judgment in deciding who's interesting enough to follow." I agree 100%.
- Steffan Antonas
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I think that one way to protest can be replacing @ with #, that way all our nicks become hashtags. That way it will show up in our streams AND it will affect the sidebar.
- Andrés David Aparicio
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5 guidelines to include in your company’s social media policy - http://www.petecodella.com/5-guide...
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Just tried some chocolate hand lotion. Guys, what better way to attract a woman than to smell like dark chocolate?
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Where does one get that? Re: chocolate hand lotion
- David Damore
Twitter before the internet - http://lolfactory.tumblr.com/post...
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wonder if they had the fail whale too?
- (jeff)isageek
Apparently, I am one of those "new celebrity" users who is ruining Twitter. That's funny, I don't recall being part of a popularity contest.
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.... for certain values of "new"
- Nine
you are pretty much the only one, that I find worth following. Useful info always wins (except @BrentSpiner :))
- Shivanand Velmurugan
You know who is ruining twitter? The people who do nothing but complain about the celebs using Twitter. Seriously its an opt in system they don't have to follow what they are doing! Also you are early adopter geek. One of us one of us gobble gobble gobble!
- Joe Pierce
you not ruin Twitter
- MicahBear78
I don't understand the complaints. That these "celebrities" are using Twitter affect my experience in no way whatsover. Because Oprah is stealing my followers? Riight.
- ♥patricia♥
Humor, carry on smartly...
- Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
Don't listen to them. You are one of the interesting guys
- Douglas L. Perry
Who are you again?
- Pete Gilbert
Who is this Wil Wheaton thats ruining Twitter?
- Amit Morson
Forget being a celebrity on Twitter. Come be a community member on FriendFeed, Wil!
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
"You want celebrity? You can't handle celebrity!"
- ianf ⌘
Joe hit the nail on the end - the unfollow has enormous power. The only people who can ruin Twitter are the founders.
- Shéa Bennett
funny, I don't remember you being a "new" celebrity either. Wil, keep it up and ignore the crap.
- Roger Sanborn
Dude, you are totally ruining twitter, please stop posting such good stuff, it embarasses us losers who hang out on twitter and friendfeed.
- Andrew Scrivner
Damn you! Stop ruining Twitter and get your ass over to Friendfeed! :-P
- April Russo (app103)
Weird, It will only ruin it if you care about ranking. FriendFeed Rocks!
- Bill Hice
Aren't we all just numbers anyway?
- Ben Rhudy
*lifts hood* Oh, see, here's the problem with your Twitter. You got a Wil Wheaton in there. He'll ruin your Twitter if you let him.
- josh neff, Fun Dip of FF
i do not agree with that statement. look forward to your tweets!
- (jeff)isageek
Are you sure you are even a celebrity :)
- carolyne darimont
You are not one of the ruiners.
- Carol Levesque
Ha! Actually I did that "Who was the first person you followed" thing on Twitter a few weeks ago, and it was @wilw. He's the reason I joined Twitter in the first place!
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
Its a pity Will isint commenting here on Friendfeed :(
- Roberto Bonini
URL Shortening Wars: Twitter Ditches TinyURL For bit.ly - http://fwd.mbooth.com/post...
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Former MySpace Chairman Richard Rosenblatt’s Advice To The New Executive Team - http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
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Twitter advice: honest/helpful engagement often results in childish knee-jerk response. It's a social risk friendly ppl take.
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If Twitter continues the overhyped direction it's headed, soon, it'll be a community filled with marketers and celebrities with megaphones
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I agree, the spammers and marketers (I'm an Affiliate but do not use Twitter for business as a rule) are poised to mess up a good thing. Why do the best and purest forms of communication always get sullied by greedy, careless people?
- Nicholas Chase
how so? Your twitterverse is limited to who you follow/what you search for. No one can market to you unless you opt in to follow.
- Sameer
It is very much this way now.
- Louis Gray
Unless they upgrade the hardware it is going to crash soon. Slow and too many fail whales.
- Steven Kent
OP: "soon"?
- Carlos Ayala
Good question...is what's happening a great awareness wave for the general public? Or a cementing of Twitter's reputation as people broadcasting without value? I'm going with the former on this one.
- Hutch Carpenter
I agree with Sameer. Just don't follow people you don't want to follow. Unless you are thinking that it will be a put-off to other people.
- Mark Chandler
Twitter: a community filled with marketers, 'life coaches' and celebrities with megaphones. That ship has already sailed.
- AJ Kohn
+1 AJ!
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+1 Sameer!
- Atul Arora
I can't imagine how FF could handle noisy marketers. It's much more about conversation here, they would be taken out more easily, wouldn't they?
- Jérôme Flipo
I'll third Sameer and Mark. The beauty of twitter is that you shape your own community. I follow one celebrity, because I actually enjoy his tweets. But it doesn't bother me or reduce the value I get out of twitter when people I'm not connected to use it differently than I.
- Jeremy Schultz
@Jerome: Yes. Crowdblocking happens *very* quickly on FF. And I believe (hello FF employees) that once a certain number of blocks are initiated the FF daemon comes along and gobbles them up.
- AJ Kohn
Soon?
- Alex Scoble
The only way in which Twitter hype can hurt Twitter is in Twitter's responsiveness. For all else, Twitter - like FriendFeed - is much as with blogs. Everyone chooses his own subscriptions. And everyone figures out their own way to use their 140 char text-box.
- Meryn Stol
it's still opt-in..filters baby, filters
- George Dearing
I completely disagree with the idea that how others use Twitter doesn't impact your own usage. If someone you follow starts to follow more and more people then their ability to interact with you diminishes. The social connection between you two disappears. That's if you still rely on Twitter for interaction (which I think many do, though I certainly don't.) So, sure you can unfollow that person, but an environment where quantity seems highly valued will reduce your ability to converse.
- AJ Kohn
And Friendfeed and Facebook is somehow immune to this;-)?
- Brandon Mendelson
Already is
- andy brudtkuhl
As far as Sameer's point goes... I don't want to follow Oprah - thus I'm not opting in. BUT if anyone I follow talks to her then I am pulled into her twitterverse. So it's not 100% opt-in
- andy brudtkuhl
"...filled with marketers and celebrities with megaphones." And of course about 3 million people clueless as to how to handle all the noise.
- Tim
Andy, that's when lists should come on stage to put the noise backstage. Friendfeed to rescue you.
- Jérôme Flipo
ok, so it's not 100% opt-in..so what..being pulled into Oprah's twitterverse thru someone else would be a problem mostly for newbies coming to twitter..they don't follow that many ppl so their stream would be easy to overtake. You have to spend some time tuning your network..it gets noisy sometime but so does the real world.
- George Dearing
@George - that's why they need groups and filters! .... sounds like another service... hmmm oh, ya .. FriendFeed!
- andy brudtkuhl
Andy: not really. They have 3rd party clients for that.
- Matsis
This GUY? Yeah i'm here PC Easy, I do both
- Jeremiah Owyang
to be honest, a loud place with people talking over each other in order to get noticed is how both FF and twitter feel, at times. Goes with the follower model
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
I agree... a diluted mess. This isn't another channel, it's a conversation.
- Drew Lucas
Who was it on FF that said twitter is like a Seinfeld episode where everyone is talking, no one is listening? so funny because it's so true.
- Violet Mae Lim
I think it was Bindu Reddy: http://ff.im/2pws5
- Brome
Soon?
- Kathy Fitch
marketers as distinct from social media gurus?
- Christian Crumlish
isn't this what folks said about the web? all the authentic voices would be drowned out by commerce? did it happen?
- Christian Crumlish
Yes, but I think the spammers and others who don't engage with their followers/friends will soon find they're not getting the results they want. We still have the capability of creating the "communities" we want to converse with on Twitter. I'm surprised more celebrities didn't find Twitter earlier, and some of them are doing fund-raising for good causes. We can choose which ones we include in our own conversations.
- Cathryn Hrudicka
Isn't it already full with crappy, cheap marketers?
- Jorge Escobar
Jorge: It depends who you're following but yes they are already there.
- Nicholas James
Blame Ashton, Oprah and Britney. A complete waste of space.
- David Eedle
I agree. Saw yesterday that "Twitter Quitters" was trending on Twitter. Let 'em quit.
- Rick Cogley
unfollow the marketers & celebs.
- tarafireball
It already is! Of all people, I would have thought you would have recognized this long ago! ;-)
- Brad Williamson
I seldomly use Twitter anymore due to the noise level. I see more and more advertisers and product spammers. It feels less personal whereas FriendFeed has a better system for that.
- imabonehead
It's unfortunately the nature of the beast - greed concurs all. Hell look what it did to the good old USA, then the world.
- Brent - Long Live Rock
Everybody involved in social media is a self-marketer. Besides, Twitter has had the spammers and MLMers since day one. The celebrities are relatively new, but who cares? Therein lies the power of the unfollow button, Twitter's protective shield.
- Shéa Bennett
Yes, it will but the beauty of Twitter is that we don't have to follow any of them. We can still make it what WE want. That's the difference. The other stuff will die if it is truly of no value. It always does. We'll be left with something useful.
- Michael J. Pratt
You mean, like Facebook...? :-)
- John Blossom
People who like the "cool" things are now a little distressed that MSM has discovered Twitter, but its very nature seems to inoculate one from mass media hysteria. Just ignore these folks. The main problem with Twitter is that it's very generic - needs 3rd party apps like FF to really bloom.
- John Blossom
I agree it's at a point where newbies have less of a chance of adapting to the culture long-term because of all the noise/spam, but for those of us who have been here for the long haul, things are much the same as they always were. If a contact doesn't bring value, unfollow.
- Amie Gillingham
It seems the resounding opinion of FriendFeeders that Twitter Already IS " community filled with marketers and celebrities with megaphones" -And the number of followers I get who have bot-based auto-spams and names like @TheMLMGuy and who have 10,000 followers in their first week prove the FriendFeeders to be correct.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Twitter is a real-time broadcast medium in its essence, with receivers (follow mechanism) that enables people to aggregate their own channels. So it's not surprising that it attracts MSM and MSM marketers. There's a place for broadcast - and, like, CB radios, a broadcast medium can support very focused and highly scalable conversations also.
- John Blossom
@BillSledzik - Ooog use many tweets on purpose. Ooog is full-time SEO practitioner.
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San Francisco mayor @GavinNewsom has blocked 5 people from his Twitter account http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin...
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Umm, hello BOM it's 2009. Why do you have a form on your web site that I have to complete online then print and mail or fax to you?
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Maryam says I'm like Michael, but aspire to be like Loic. "You're just not cultivated enough, she says." Ouch.
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I prescribe pancakes.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
Ah, ah couldn't say better!
- Christian
unless we're talking plants, cultivation's over-rated! :-)
- faryl
be like Michael :)
- Rahul Krishnakumar
Ooooh OUCH is right! damn... that wasn't very nice... geees
- Susan Beebe
Susan: I will get her back. :-)
- Robert Scoble
don't miss a single LeWeb and you will be fine! btw I am not cultivated at all
- Loic Le Meur
Robert - good cuz that was nasty! LOL
- Susan Beebe
Loic: I will take Michael's business class ticket next year. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Loic - you're very good at fooling the rest of us into thinking you are! hahaha!! :)
- Susan Beebe
That's brutal. What was your witty retort? Slack jawed amazement? :-)
- Todd Hoff
This Michael Arrington / Loic Lemur 'clash of civilisations' is now taking the form of a comic cultural cliché. You know...The boorish, arrogant American shouts down the sophisticated but lazy connoisseur! I don't know either of these guys. But they make great entertainment . Looks like you are having great fun stoking the fire.
- Mac Taylor
xmas negotiation with the wife. I get an iphone 3G and an AppleTV, she get's a Kindle and my original iPhone.
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dangerouslyawesome &8211; development (tech and personal) thoughts of Alex Hillman - http://www.dangerouslyawesome.com/
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