totally got a cool idea for new schwag... two items: for new Moms, a friend feed shirt with slots for easy feeding of infants... and for new Pops like Louis, nipple with bottle attachment inserts with one nipple coming out of the first f and the second nipple coming out of the second d... saweet!
- Rob Reed
FF schwag and twins! best picture of the day!
- Sarah Perez
Mega awesome ;) Congratulations to you and your family, like the Friendfeed t-shirt ;)
- Mario Olckers
Tiny... little... eentsy... lumps of yum. There, my estrogen has officially shown itself.
- Carla Thompson
No way - they have FF onesies??? How do I get my hands on one of those?
- Jesse Stay
The Gray family Babies!!!! Sarah and Mathew look sooo cute in your arms! and sooo tiny my goodness!!... still LOL @ Rob's wacky comment..whoa!
- Susan Beebe
Oh... THE American football played mostly with the hands... The one where they have one set of guys to run into the opposition, then they have an ad break while they swap sides, then they have another set of guys to have the opposition run into.
- Johnny Worthington
You mean the one where they wear shoulder pads cause they like to hit the other guy hard but can't take being hit that hard themselves?
- Johnny Worthington
For the record, I'm a big fan of American football. But proper football is way better.
- Akiva Moskovitz
I like Gridiron, I do, but it ain't all that and a bucket of pigs ears compared to football (IMO). It's the World Game no less.
- Johnny Worthington
Remember, for most Americans, the rest of the world might as well be on another planet. If it ain't UHMERRRRKUN, then it ain't SHEEEEYIT.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Uh, I'm pretty sure Salsa and Soy Sauce are the top 2 condiments in the country.
- Matthew DeVries
As of Saturday my parent's home was still there when my dad left. He stayed on the roof with a hose fighting it by himself. The firefighters helped him fight it for a while. They used a pump to pump water from the swimming pool to fight it but eventually the firefighters gave up. The neighbors house burned down. My dad was able to save our house, at least as of Sat. afternoon. It may be gone now. He was going to try and hike back in on Saturday night in order to bypass the roadblock by the Sherriff, but wasn't able to get back in there.
- Thomas Hawk
from Bookmarklet
I think the house may be ok. Well see. On Sat. night when I talked to my mom she said that he'd been able to save the house fighting the fire from the roof. But a storage/garage type structure on the property burned down and 3 cars were lost as of Sat afternoon. The whole thing could be gone now though.
- Thomas Hawk
Oh, Thomas! Many prayers, warm thoughts (warm = the affectionate kind, not the fiery kind), and hugs to you and your family. I hope everyone is safe!
- Ladybug Heather
Oh, man...I am sorry to hear that, TH. Thoughts & prayers to you and your family.
- JA Castillo
they are all safe. my mom was in ventura giving a seminar and my dad stayed until the fire burned through the property on the canyon. There were still hot spots though that could have flared up. He left on Sat. afternoon after saving the home and the fire burned through the property. I think he wanted to get to town as there's no phone/electricity up there to let everyone know he was...
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- Thomas Hawk
Oh, sh*t!! That's awful. Glad to hear your folks are OK, Thomas.
- Andrew Terry
Sending good thoughts your parents way, Thomas. *hugs*
- Mol, Santa Claws
I'm so sorry, Thomas. You and family are in prayers, I'm so glad to hear that you are all safe. Your father is a very brave man. Please let them know I am praying for them.
- Melanie Reed
So scary. Best wishes to your folks. The worry must be unbearable.
- Kathy Fitch
I've lived in Altadena/Pasadena for the bulk of my time in Los Angeles, nearly ten years. It's really scary to know that some of the homes that are being lost are undoubtedly friends or relatives of friends and people that I know.
- Derrick
Hope everything turns out good for your parents, looks terrifying
- Kim Landwehr
Hope everything turns out alright, with no more property loss, for your parents!
- Rene Wirtz
How scary and terrible! I'm glad that your parents are ok, though!!
- Susan Dennis
I'm so glad everyone is ok. I'll keep your family in my prayers.
- ChiliMac
I'm glad everyone is safe. Is this the worst fire season in recent years?
- Bryan R. Adams
yeah. this is the worst fire since the fire that burned through there maybe in 1977 or so? I remember that one too. It was pretty bad. This one seems worse though. The other thing that's terrible are the floods that follow the fires the next winter.
- Thomas Hawk
Scary things fires like these. Glad to hear your family's safe though - at the end of the day that's more important than the house.
- John
Really scary. I saw a wildfire up close for the first time this weekend in Yosemite. It's not something I hope to be near again.
- Kevin Pedraja
So sorry to hear this. Good to know that your parents are safe.
- Anne Yeh
ohhhhhhh shit! that totally sucks :-(
- Ralph Reijs
Thomas I am so sorry. I hope their house is ok. Gosh, I feel bad for you guys.
- Jim Williams
I talked with my dad on the phone for the first time today. He seemed fine about it all. He said it was exciting actually. He was the only one there fighting the fire for a long time. He said it was really quiet except for sounds of the fire. He'd hear a tree fall and yell "timber." He was in pretty good spirits all things considered. He's pretty sure the house is saved and hopes that they might escort residents back in in the next few days sometimes in this part of Big Tujunga Canyon.
- Thomas Hawk
I'm sorry to hear about this, but I'm glad everyone is okay!
- Michael Fidler
It is a story all to familiar for us Australians and thankfully my family and I have never been caught up in it ourselves, but have come very close. Glad to hear that your folks are ok and in the least have a story to tell. Everything is replaceable except your life and these types of events bring people to that realisation faster than they would like unfortunately.
- Travis Koger
from iPhone
WHOA! I hated the CA wildfires ..that was something I'll never miss again... augh
- Susan Beebe
Man ,, TH.. Im so glad that the folks are ok ... tell Dad to leave the firefighting to the young guys ,, hope that the folks are safe and that the weather can drop some rain to assist in this disaster ,,
- johnpiercy
TH .. all that matters is that the folks .. are safe ,, homes can be rebuilt .. best wishes sincerely jp
- johnpiercy
he's a pretty crazy but resourceful old dude actually. the firefighters were there helping him for a while but they bailed on the property figuring they couldn't save it and he stayed and fought it off himself.
- Thomas Hawk
Hope the house is okay. Glad to hear the folks are safe. Cheers!
- Helen Sventitsky
Can't think of anything more scary than having to run from your house as it's being surrounded by fire. Very glad everyone is safe though....that's what is important.
- Bonnie Foster
So glad to hear your folks are safe, TH. Wow. Praying for the firefighters and rest of the people caught in this horrible fire season. :-|
- Lisa L. Seifert
OMG! that's really dreadful! glad to know your folks are safe. and stunned that the fire looks so beautiful in this image!
- B.L. Ochman
Yeah WOW. So brave for your dad to fight the fire all by himself. I'm glad to hear he's ok.. I feel a little sorry about their house, it's beautiful :(
- 'Like' robot (frɐnc)
So sorry they have to go through this. Thank you for sharing the story, Thomas.
- Micah Wittman
I was listening to a story on the radio about how quickly you can be engulfed by a forest fire, specially when certain types of trees literally explode raining burning chunks around, honestly, it sounds very risky to stay behind and fight these yourself.
- Ray Cromwell
Thomas, I hope your parents house makes it though the fire OK. I'm glad to hear that your parents are OK, regardless of what happens to the house.
- Jeff P. Henderson
I feel for you Thomas because I've been there just over 6months ago. All I can say is (unfortunately) you're in for a shite of a year ~ http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Peter Renshaw
glad to hear your folks got out - terrible to see the devastation!
- Kate
glad to hear they're OK but gutted for you TH
- Phill Price
Sorry to hear about your troubles Thomas, but I'm extremely glad your parents are safe and sound. Looks like you guys are having a really bad season
- Mo Kargas
sorry you guys are having to go through this shit. And I'm seriously impressed by your dad! major balls.
- vijay
Sheesh* Scary Poop Batman - hopefully Everybody is OK* I saw that on the Front Page o the Paper this morning + U never think it's somebody U know*
- Billy Warhol
I didn't want to click on the Like link because it's almost like saying I enjoy watching Thomas Hawk's parents house burn down. Hope everyone is safe ;-)
- James Robertson
I am sorry to see the fire was such a danger to you and your family. I sincerely hope your Dad didn't manage to sneak back in - he just endangers himself and the fire fighters.. It is better to have your Dad around than a house.
- Bill Rawlinson
I'm really sorry to see and hear that.........
- Kevin Montgomery
That is so scary, but the biggest thing is that you know where your parents are, and they're safe.
- mark zero (Jason)
My parents went back into their property yesterday afternoon. They were letting some residents back into Big Tujunga Canyon. The house survived but there's a lot of work still to do. The pipes from the water pump to the spring burned up and so my dad's trying to repair those to get water back to the property. Electricity is still out and probably will be for at least a few weeks. He's...
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- Thomas Hawk
It's going to be hard for the whole community now Thomas - it is the same in Greece where there were really devastating fires close to Athens these past few days. At least your parents are safe - all the best.
- Sofia @ SoMaFusion
Louis, have you tried Skitch? I've found it to be much faster to deal with for blog post screen shot editing than Photoshop. I use Photoshop only for the heavy stuff.
- Jesse Stay
Thanks Louis. I think that the real credit should go to the quality of your share items feeds and your enthusiasm for Google Reader. I think that platform needs a few advocates like you and jenna to really flourish.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Louis, you should do a series of blog post to recommend who to follow on Google Reader (like you do for Friendfeed). Mahendra (http://friendfeed.com/skeptic...) is trying to get the ball rolling on Google Reader people recommdation
- Andre P. Siregar
Well, to be fair, I think you found me first - but I don't know how? ;)
- Gary Walter (gwalter)
Photo #1: Valentino Rossi practices this morning (he came in third in qualifying today but is #1 in overall points). Photo #2: Valentino shows off on way to pits at the end of qualifying. Photo #3: Jorge Lorenzo, Rossi's teammate and #2 in points, rides his way to a second-place finish in qualifying. Photo #4: Dani Pedrosa leads the way, he had the fastest qualifying time today. Photo #5: Lorenzo takes the turn toward finish line at Indy.
- Robert Scoble
Dave: thanks. I fixed that. This is an amazing team to hang out with. Over on Flickr I'm uploading some video of the garage too and more photos but uploads from the hotel are going slow.
- Robert Scoble
Robert it would be neat if you cropped one of your images so that it fit the full width of FriendFeed
- Brian Hendrickson
Brian: thanks. It's one of those that I learned from Chase Jarvis: shoot lots of photos and maybe one comes out. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Brian: yeah, these images are all as they came off of my sensor. No cropping, photoshop, or manipulation. I'll try to crop a few of the ones on Flickr.
- Robert Scoble
I have the top one as my desktop right now. It's quite sweet. By the way, all my images are in the public domain so you're welcome to do anything you want with them.
- Robert Scoble
Scoble, the Fiat/Yamaha people are great -- they treated me like a king. You're lucky -- maybe we can go to one of these together. I love the sport. You're getting a real treat.
- Dave Winer
Dave: yeah, they are treating us very well. Plus they let me drive the Fiat 500 and that's very cool!
- Robert Scoble
These are some amazing photos Robert!
- Jason Hansen
Here's a visit to the Fiat/Yamaha garage: http://www.flickr.com/photos... you wouldn't believe how many people want to get in here (huge crowds wait outside for a chance to meet Rossi).
- Robert Scoble
Robert, do you care if I take the first photo and optimize it for a 1440 x 900 wallpaper? Obviously you would get 100% credit for the photo.
- Jason Hansen
Jason: absolutely. They are public domain, no credit necessary (although I do like it).
- Robert Scoble
the bratwurst there were amazing too! we ate all the food too fast to take any photos! :)
- Rex Gradeless
To give you an idea of how hard it is to shoot these pictures, I did a short video of our spot on the final turn with the 600mm: http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Robert Scoble
Very nice. I'm impressed your camera got that.
- Hunt
from iPhone
#46 is Valentino Rossi, #1 in the world right now. #99 is Jorge Lorenzo, #2 in the world. I'm here to study innovators and these two are at the top of their game. The team behind them is doing interesting stuff with social media, too.
- Robert Scoble
It is a lot harder to shoot these than jet planes. The pictures don't do justice to just how fast these things are going. This is turn 1 at Indy, by the way.
- Robert Scoble
Envious much! Being able to see The Doctor at work. Amazing!
- Steve Farnworth
Thomas Hawk would be jealous. I snuck through another team's garage (with permission) then got kicked off the track after 20 minutes of shooting.
- Robert Scoble
These are practice runs, tomorrow the racing starts. We're doing a meetup at the track, by the way, at 1 p.m. -- if you are here, call me. 425-205-1921 will be fun. Another meetup is at 10 p.m. tomorrow night in downtown Indianapolis.
- Robert Scoble
These guys drive faster in the rain than I do in my car.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: Are these shots are only a percentage of the resolution of the camera? I can only imagine the full detail of the shot. 1600x1067 resolution feels like it doesn't do them justice. Nice work.
- Luke Kilpatrick
Luke: yeah. The full things are over 5,000 pixels across. I'll put up full res ones on Flickr.
- Robert Scoble
Really nice work! What lens are you using?
- Bill Sanders
Joshua: thanks. You didn't see all my failures, though. This was the hardest shooting I've ever done. It's amazingly difficult to get good photos of things going so freaking fast with such a long telephoto. I have no idea how the camera people on TV do it (except they have huge tripods).
- Robert Scoble
Bill: a Canon 600 mm F4.0 with a Canon 5D MK II.
- Robert Scoble
<insert envy here> missed you last night at the panel btw...
- Bill Sanders
By the way, all these pictures are in the public domain. My gift to you. Bill: yeah, sorry I wasn't there. I heard I took some abuse from Guy Kawasaki, though. Tell him that Yamaha's are beating the Kawasakis here. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Jeff: NASCAR goes slow compared to these bikes. :-) But I would love to catch some NASCAR action someday.
- Robert Scoble
Thanks for the "social media compliment" Robert. We all share a big passion and are simply trying to share the best content we have.
- Marco Massarotto
@Robert ... ummm darlin' depends on what track they are on. Right now they can get up to 205 on a super speedway WITH a restrictor plate. (eg. Taladega & Daytona) Before the Restrictor plate was required... they would get speeds up to 220 mph. (Yes I am a HUGE NASCAR GEEK!!)
- The Catz Meow
So I guess the shots of me catching a wave was like shooting fish in a barrel compared to the speed of these shots. Looking forward to seeing the full res shots, I wonder if you can tell the type of screws used on the bikes :)
- Luke Kilpatrick
The Catz Meow: I was just yanking your chain. The MotoGP is running about 205mph too. These bikes are amazing. Especially when you consider the rain. Those tires are awesome. Yeah, Luke, shooting you was a bit easier.
- Robert Scoble
Marco: thanks for the access and being great hosts. I'll upload a lot more to my Flickr account shortly.
- Robert Scoble
But cars are huge compared to these bikes. Easier to get focus on a large target. Astonished that the 5D handles that well...
- Holger Eilhard
from iPod
Nice. I'll be out there tomorrow. May see you at a TweetUp
- Mike Nelson
Holger: I love my 5D. It's an amazing camera. By the way, these have NOT been altered in any way and are straight off of my camera. If I did a little bit of processing on them they would look even more amazing.
- Robert Scoble
@Robert Oh yes I am well aware of what these bikes can do... I did my Motorcycle mechanic apprenticeship for Vance and Hines Racing back in 86-87. I used to watch them at Laguna Seca when I was stationed at Fort Ord.
- The Catz Meow
Can you tell I really LOVE Speed and things that GO FAST?
- The Catz Meow
The Catz: yeah. And these things DO. I will shoot the turns tomorrow (on the back of the track the bikes go through a series of turns, which make a lot better pictures than just all-out speed).
- Robert Scoble
Robert: next up: some nice HD video maybe? :)
- Holger Eilhard
from iPod
It's very difficult to shoot video at the paddock, organization won't allow videocameras, so it's gonna be a tough time for Robert to share some video, but, you know... you never know, he's Scobleizer :-)
- Marco Massarotto
Holger: I will try to sneak in some video here and there, but Marco is right, video is hard to shoot on these tracks. Plus, I can't use the 600 mm and get video worth watching.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: How come you can't do video on the 600mm? Too much shake?
- Luke Kilpatrick
Beautiful photos of a great team. I think race photographer would be my dream job.
- Stephen Masiello
Stephen: I met the official photographer today and he wasn't willing to give up his media pass. Sigh.
- Robert Scoble
Nice. I was there last year, soggy then too. Didn't have a 600. Use a slower shutter speed while panning for that blurred feeling of speed.
- Jeremy Tanner
Jeremy: yeah, I'll try that. First I just had to get used to capturing these things. How slow? I bet 125th of a second would do the trick.
- Robert Scoble
Guy only had a little fun at your expense. Something about not being sure that all those egos could fit on one panel - even with you missing. We'll get you back for another one soon. Enjoy the trip - looks like you are having a blast.
- Bill Sanders
Great lens choice for the conditions & targets.
- Bryan Duke
I would say that this is the universal sign for get the hell off the road. Even if it came down on the right, anybody driving behind would also be taken out I would think.
- Travis Koger
Just read Micah's comment. If this is being delivered to Ted Stevens, that truck is going to have to take the highway up to Alaska through Canada. The Mounties may object.
- John E. Bredehoft
One never knows. the delivery may be the next drive-way after the stop sign made on 10 to 14 wheels instead of 18 - the rig hasn't tipped yet
- Mac Sharp
Obviously a very conservative truck driver, leaning oh so far to the right. See what fear and loathing that would bring? Must be listening to r*u*s*h (talk show dude, not band)
- Rob Schieber
Things I've learned about planning a wedding: Start with the guest list first. Your guest count determines your choice of venues...your venue determines a lot of other things (usually caterer, DJ, and possibly some other things)...
Go to a wedding show BEFORE you book anyone...there are deals to be had and people who can clue you in to services you didn't think about.
- Alex Scoble
If you can afford it, hire a wedding planner...Going it alone CAN be a difficult process.
- Alex Scoble
I've been to quite a few weddings where the priority was keeping it simple and the couple planned everything themselves. Had a great time. I've also seen couples have a meltdown, but those folks had their priorities a bit out of whack.
- Jason Wehmhoener
Don't sign a contract without READING it...If the business promised you something that's not IN the contract, get them to amend it.
- Alex Scoble
When you do your budget, take that number and double it...Unless you absolutely know what you are doing and have priced stuff out, chances are it will cost twice what you thought.
- Alex Scoble
The DJ makes your night...find a good one that will energize the crowd. If you paid for someone to sit behind a laptop and serve up songs, you got took. People should be dancing their asses off. If they aren't, you got took.
- Alex Scoble
Don't pick weird food just because you like it. Pick good food that 90% of the crowd will like. Your strange choice for meat or your "interestingly spiced" mashed potatoes? Trust me, don't do it. I'd recommend bringing the most finicky eater in your wedding party to tastings, if they like it...you are good to go.
- Alex Scoble
If you can afford to have someone do it for you, whatever it is, do it. Trust me, it's not worth the grief of doing 200 of whatever it is, just to save a few quid. If you can't afford it, then by all means, gather round the family and friends and have a party. Of course if you don't have a lot of family and friends that can help you, you probably can't afford to DIY.
- Alex Scoble
Not a big fan of 200 person weddings myself. Smaller and more intimate is way more fun for me. YMMV.
- Jason Wehmhoener
Yeah, you don't have much control over the size of the wedding. That's pretty much dictated by the nature of the families involved.
- Alex Scoble
I actually have a bit of a beef with the "wedding industry". They're selling a very expensive product that has gotten ever more elaborate over the years. Weddings weren't like this until recently.
- Jason Wehmhoener
Of course, I'm speaking overly generally. Weddings vary quite a bit from one culture to another.
- Jason Wehmhoener
There's nothing elaborate about my wedding...and nothing about my advice will make your wedding more elaborate, but yeah...things do seem to be getting out of hand.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
And yeah it varies greatly depending on where you live...From what I understand, it's quite a lot cheaper to get married in Wisconsin than in Portland, for instance.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Nadine has funny stories about encountering weddings on the street in China. It's good luck there to have more people at your wedding, so they pull people in off the street. You can party all night with families you've never met!
- Jason Wehmhoener
Hehe, yeah, I've heard that in India there are services that allow you to rent guests to fill up your reception.
- Alex Scoble
also: do what you want to do. not what's cool in your area - for example - a lot of people will have a catered reception with a full meal. that can add up very quickly. we had an evening wedding (7ish) with a dance reception after. much cheaper!
- Nathalie, Dreamer of FF
Yeah, that sounds cool...I think a lot of details like that really depend on who you are marrying, hehe...I like that idea now that I think of it...Feeding 200 people sure is expensive.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
That's not a pipe bomb, its an electromagnet and a compass. Maybe some commentary on 3rd world technology?
- David C. Cooper
Hehehe. It is quite obscure - they really should at least have some sort of explanation for this kinda stuff - if only to stop the images getting them into trouble.
- Amy
It does look kind of questionable....
- Kamilah Gill
a battery, wire, a nail, powering a clock lol how is that a pipe bomb. Where is the explosive
- MarkRushow
Mark, don't be a smartass. To average people who aren't familiar with electromagnetism and have been fed a steady diet of fear for years, their first impression could easily be "that thing with wires and a stick of dynamite and a clock is a bomb." Not everyone, but some people.
- Veronica
Anyhow, this post was meant to be funny, not social commentary. Strange how these things happen! ;)
- Veronica
Hey, Veronica, sorry I missed this when you first posted it. But when you see an unexplained Google graphic, click on it. I did, which is how I found out about Ørsted. :)
- Craig Roth
I think FF will certainly change (or, worst case, cease to exist).
- Brett Kelly
maybe FF can just be the test box and we're all beta users, then port what works over to FB ... everybody's happy? yeah, it'll never work.
- John
My guess is FF will pretty much freeze it's feature set and code base. FF engineers will start working on adding functionality to Facebook, and at some points 6-12mo from now, FF will go the way of Pownce.
- Ken Sheppardson
I think the probable outcome is the Feedburner scenario; it still works, they just stopped innovating.
- Gerardo Capetillo
when will they realize we do not necessarily want everything linked together. it is not always about trying to hide your idenity has it is just using different social media tools for different purposes.
- R. Ferguson
I think Facebook will just kill Friendfeed
- Terry Cleary
That's the spirit. I'm tired of the "when are we jumping" posts - this is the right attitude.
- Jesse Stay
That's because you're "pro-Facebook", Jesse... of course you'd be tired of the anti-Facebook backlash.
- Ken Sheppardson
I don't have a good feeling about this either. Hopefully FF and FB get better, only time will tell.
- Kolomona
Does this mean I'll have to log onto my facebook page? I've been ignoring fb since January.
- Dale
I like Friendfeed the way it is too but I just wish there was better desktop cleint support. Hopefully Tweetdeck etc. will have more reason to add FF support now.
- KyleHase
Facebook is going to just "flop" friendfeed, i can see it... but i would hate to see it end that way, friendfeed is that social networking site that really matters, and us "true" early friendfeed users will alway remember it as the best site ever!
- Bryce Campbell
Ken, I'm not just "pro-Facebook". I understand it. I know the team. I also understand FriendFeed and somewhat understand their team as well. I think I'm more qualified to say that than anyone.
- Jesse Stay
I don't see this as a good sign for FF....innovation will be geared for Facebook, FF could be a FB labs sort of thing, but it's not the same. I have yet to see mergers or acquisitions not kill off or turn whatever was eaten into a dead pile of junk. Time Warner -- AOL anyone?
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
FriendFeed will change about as much as Flickr changed after Yahoo took over.
- Gus
I think that this will end up seeing FF becoming the central feed for FB. Possibly something along the lines of the public timeline for Twitter, but with FF becoming the public timeline for FB.
- Andrew
Andrew, exactly. I think Facebook desperately needs and wants something like this. I don't expect it to go away.
- Jesse Stay
Somehow I don't believe that FriendFeed will survive this. Let's enjoy it as long as it's still around.
- Patrick Harms
Yahoo! bought Flickr and Delicious. Conde Nast bought Reddit. Those are still around and in good form. Let's hope FriendFeed gets better instead of disappearing.
- Jeff Harbert
When something that you use is bought up by a giant I think that you feel that you lose something.Looking forward to seeing the outcome.Ger
- gerald miller
I'd love to see Mike be right - FF = labs.facebook.com - Keep the innovations happening here on FF, and see those innovations find their way to the Facebook feed. While that would necessarily mean that FF innovations would have an eye towards how those would work on Facebook, really, where's the harm in that?
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Rob: After this acquisition, who do you expect will be tasked with continuing to innovate on the FF platform? The former FF team? That's not consistent with what's known about the situation.
- Christopher A Carr
Given that the code of the two platforms is completely independent right now, I really can't imagine why Facebook would want to divert engineering effort to extending FF.
- Ken Sheppardson
I just don't think FB can pull it off. They have so many 'brokens' in FB all the time
- Lee Kent
Leo Good Day, Sir. I'm on here an hour and I like it, I'm a big Twitter fan. I think it's exciting personally, a lot to like and some cool features like direct ermail back to someone if you have email alerts. Facebook, seems to me, will only make it better. Cheers and thanks for all you do, I'm a fan.
- Paul Roberts
Don't you think they will change it, Leo? I'm not as excited about this as you are. I like friendfeed but I'm not much of a facebook fan. I don't know if I can learn to love it. I guess I'll try. But I don't know if it's gonna happen. I think friendfeed as we know it is no more.
- Lise
depends on how much longer FF sticks around for...
- Kim
Chris subscribed to ya! Mahalo! David - I DO! I tell them at least once a day to join me here for a more in depth conversation. I even stopped one conversation cold this morning and told him it belonged here not on Twitter.
- Arleen Anderson
Kim - sadly it is a concern. I just see FB messing up FF in the future... and people don't want to keep jumping networks.
- Arleen Anderson
I so agree! Tired of Twitter Twissues!
- Jeff Hurt
FriendFeed is a MUCH better communication arena, but it's just not as "catchy". Very little customization.
- Nick Armstrong
Okay let's go get everybody HERE where we can have real discussions... then we can plan our Long Term strategy for Citizen Journalism! They won't do away with this FF for at least a few months!
- Arleen Anderson
All ideas for saving a FF like community (or if we must plan a mass migration) post HERE!
- Arleen Anderson
yeah FF is cool, hope it doesn't change now that FB bought it, hope it gets better...not sure why twitter keeps going down,but FF seems more reliable&works w/twhirl, FB doesn't
- Patty
from twhirl
At least we have each other here... @ least 4 the time being on FF... How're you, Arleen?
- CarolAnnB
Oh Me 2. I feel like I'm to loud for the small room. LOL
- Carol Rambo
...maybe Twitter's just gotten too big to be supported by just one company? imagine if all telecom service was run by just AT&T. Twitter needs legitimate competition, so that it's millions of users (and growing) don't constantly get inconenienced by inevitable systems problems, hacker attacks, etc.
- .LAG liked that
I believe it will be a bi difficult to get everyone over here...Worth a shot though. We ARE going to need to make a change since it seems that Twitter is impotent in running a dependable service.
- Alonis
This has been bugging me today too, Arleen. Of course the last time it wasn't an issue with them so much as it was an outside attack upon their servers.
- Harold Paxton
Patty, CarolAnn, Carol, Lag, Alonis... we have a finite (and unknown) amount of time to DO something. FF has a simple reliable platform that works well for connection and discussion. But, w/ FB it will eventually be integrated and get cumbersome like FB is! So... we need something else ya? What do you really want/need most in a network community? These guys only care about real time search and how much $$$ they get for that.
- Arleen Anderson
Mahalo Arleen, yes I do believe we need a better platform, this is why I do jump in with both feet on some of the app's. I'm always looking. I do have a lot of tech's that I follow as do you. I'm interested, if you find better, you will let us know, right? LOL
- Carol Rambo
FF seems like the best alternative right now to twitter,as long as it doesn't change,not sure what else is out there similar to twitter
- Patty
from twhirl
I hang my head in shame as I bounced over to Twitter the minute it was up... problem is: though I ADORE and value the awesome conversations with you here... there are others I don't want to ignore on Twitter... so split... damn FB for buying FF!
- Arleen Anderson
Okay, I'm kind of feeling like a Yo-Yo with twitter today.
- Harold Paxton
Why Harold! Are you a Twitter Yo-Yo or a Twitter Ho?? *giggle*
- Arleen Anderson
I'm trying to use friendfeed for the week and seeing how it works out. I just wish there was more apps for it.
- Robert Alex
LOL Thanks a lot, Arleen! I think I may be both!! Looks like Twitter is working on the web side of things for me. but the tweetdeck is problematic.
- Harold Paxton
Robert I found with the grouping ability and the discussion threads - there's no need for much in the way of user apps here. It's so simple clean and USABLE! Do use the grouping features both for "friends" and "Groups" and have fun with real discussions you can follow! Harold, TweetDeck doesn't work w/ my follower count. I tweet via the Web!
- Arleen Anderson
Thanks for the advice to, Robert, Arleen. That's helpful for me too!
- Harold Paxton
Do you have any groups you recommend?
- Harold Paxton
Harold, I'm in te Hawaii group of course to see my local Ohana! And with the BlackBerry group cause I have one, and with Backlink free and Audiophile... but those are just my personal interests. I also like tech stuff but am in many on Facebook. I organized my friends here in groups depending on what they talk about most.
- Arleen Anderson
I do enjoy the groups feature a lot. That only may get me to switch.
- Robert Alex
Okay. Thanks, Arleen. I appreciate the info :-)
- Harold Paxton
So Robert is asking people if they're leaving FF. Without a plan guys we got same 'ol same 'ol... so WHAT is important to you??
- Arleen Anderson
Roger that Arleen, signed up 15 minutes ago as "backup." I echo your sentiments exactly.
- Paul Roberts
FF more important to me as aggregator of my other content but as Twitter has issues I'm liking the communication interface I think twitter still be my primary
- WarLord
I am a member but haven't really used this too much. Does it work like Twitter?
- Beverly Monical
Beverly, yes, but with threads and no whales.
- Marco Neves
Yeah, FriendFeed is so much faster in posting, too. I love it. Let's start the next wave in social media! Twitter has jumped the shark. :)
- LisaGemini
What? No lawyers in suits? Mark's setting a pretty low bar on the dress code for this sort of thing...:)
- Tomas Remotigue
Our lawyers were wearing shorts actually -- no air conditioning at their office on Sundays I guess.
- Paul Buchheit
Zuckerberg's the only one from FB who could be bothered to show up?
- Andy Bakun
American big business such a formal affair
- Robert Higgins
Contrary to popular misconception, lawyers don't actually enjoy wearing suits. Haul us into work on a Sunday, and we'll definitely be dressing comfortably. :)
- Brian Chang
Andy, the person on the left is Vaughan Smith from Facebook. Sanjeev (the fourth FriendFeed founder) is not pictured because he was boarding an airplane.
- Paul Buchheit
Paul, that's so awesome. FB's an awesome company to do business with.
- Jesse Stay
Hey Paul congratulations - FriendFeed has been leading the way since its inception. Are the photos you've posted copy-protected or could I use them in a story on the deal?
- Mitch
...congrats.can't wait to see what happens with both FF and FB as a result of this.
- .LAG liked that
Please try to keep Friendfeed like it was if they let you. Either way, congrats on the financials!
- Josh Haley
from iPhone
Congrats and best wishes for the future.
- Jeff Stannard
For $50m you could at least have hired a photographer who doesn't shake so much. :)
- Rodrigo Jaroszewski
FF was the cutting edge whereas FB is quickly becoming the mainstream. Unfortunately, the mainstream does not necessarily equal innovation and pushing the envelope. We all suffer when innovation is chilled. But on the other hand, congrats to the FF crew. They made their money!
- laosan
congratulations! keep the innovation coming...
- ozlubling
VERY happy for you guys. Possibly even owe you one or two. Are we getting FriendPhone next?? Think Mark should seriously think about 'Friendbook' :)
- Charlie Anzman
Congratulations to you and your team.
- Maria Niles
just showed the pictures to my students and they were like, "they look like normal people!" Congrats on the deal, onward and upward!
- xxx xxxxx
Congratulations, Paul -- to you and everybody at FF.
- Eric Johnson
Congrats Paul, Bret and the rest of the team, this is awesome news! The big question on everyone's lips is: Who gets to have http://facebook.com/paul? :)
- Fenn
Congrats, and thanks for taking us all on such a terrific ride! Big ups. :)
- Pete Delucchi
You've done a great job! You deserve this and more... Congrats!
- Ricardo J. Valle
now this is what a deal term meeting should look like - file under inspirational -
- mediaeater
Congratulations to everyone at FF. Whose house was the deal made?
- seman
I am sad .. !!! I do not know .. why .. for me its not good news
- Nayan
Ouch . . . just a tad bit of salt in the wounds of some of your more loyal users. I've got a poker if you want to inflict a little more pain
- Lindsey is Fierce!
I call this pic... "Six Happy Dudes & 1,000,000+ Pissed-Off FriendFeeders"
- Brad Williamson
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
- Mathew™ one of a kind
Looks like Mathew™ has found a UI bug by flooding contiguous characters.
- Jay Cuthrell
I don't get the negativity - did no one realize FriendFeed was a business? The object of a business is to sell eventually (either privately or publicly). We should be celebrating their success. This is a huge win for them, as well as Facebook. I personally think it's a huge win for the "loyal users" as well. So now we stab them in the back when they do something huge?
- Jesse Stay
Not to mention we know *nothing* about what this will mean for both services. These guys haven't let us down yet, have they?
- Jesse Stay
The FB/FF deal rocks. Total win for users and developers.
- Steve Gillmor
My comment is because they can see by the flood of responses people are not happy and this post is just a smidge tacky. People are upset and feel betrayed and they haven't addressed that, not that I expected them too. This is pretty much inline with the way they've handled every other major change but before you only had a handful of disgruntles users whereas this time I'd say the majority are upset.
- Lindsey is Fierce!
Congratulations Paul, you should have got more, but I guess $50m is nothing to sneeze at. Have a great wedding anniversary too, I'm sure you both deserve it. Much happiness - :)
- Chris Loft
Those are the kind of business meetings I could get used to - no suits... but selling to Facebook? Hmmm... Good for someone of course but I suppose we'll see where this ride takes us.
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
congrats on building an amazing product and incredibly passionate community! I was mad at first, but then realize that the technology was most likely sold, not the community. I'm hoping ff community will stay somewhat untouched and features that have been built into ff will be ported to fb.
- Derek Coatney
Congratulations, FriendFeeders! I'm anxious to see what changes this will bring. FriendFeed is my favorite site to visit, so hopefully y'all will find a way to maintain the FF spirit somehow.
- Keith Pelczarski
No matter the type of big change, there are those who will not like it, often simply because it's change. I for one am very pleased that two of the services I use most are joining forces, and am eager to see the new developments that come of this acquisition. Congrats to EVERYONE on the FriendFeed team. You all deserve it! You've done a great job with a small company. Now lets see what you can do with a large one :)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
@Jesse Stay re: "the objective of business is to sell eventually" : Ummm, the objective of many businesses is to become profitable by providing a valuable experience to their users. Businesses that feel they can't do that are the ones that sell.
- Shane Gibbons
Congratulations to everyone involved. Well done.
- Darius Dunlap
This is a very sad day in friend feed history. It is horrible because I like friend feed for how it's different from face book. I use facebook but I find it really annoying and I wouldn't use it if my friends and family weren't using it. So if Friend Feed becomes another facebook then i donno if I will keep coming to friend feed.
- Colide81 (James)
from iPhone
Congrats to the FF staff, but you'll have to pardon my lack of exuberance. I have mental pictures of being forced to use the FB UI and it makes me sad =(
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Very happy for the Friendfeed team. These pictures say it all.
- Christian Burns
from iPhone
Where are the photos of everyone celebrating? No beer or champagne?
- Shane
Great match-up guys ! The Fabulous Friender Boys ! - Let's see some integrated mashups and extensible apps and FF UI. Given Google and Twitter a run for their money... Looks like they are going to have to "hook-up" now !
- Mike Schmidt
Congratulations Paul and the team! Hopefully we'll still get the same simple UI for FriendFeed. I'm sure however that no matter what you do, things will turn up nicely.
- Ovidiu Predescu
NOOOOO! I _LOVE_ friendFeed and this will change it forever. Yeah - this will improve Facebook. Great deal guys - I can not wait to see how this works out
- Ric Johnson
@Scobleizer: Come on you're a genius and can not realize future of FF? Turkey was one of important countries which is using FF! They asked no one about this! We hate fcking morons and stupid people on facebook, and I'm sure that this post will be real, just read it: http://ff.im/6pRmM
- Ahmet Alp Balkan
But Ahmed you are still being an ass about it, trying to rain on their good times. Go find a hole under the bridge where you belong. You can be sad and not have to come out all bitchy about stuff. Clear thoughtful comments instead of going all into "fuck you" mode.
- Rasmus Lauridsen
OK, that's great. I hope you can be successful at Facebook Dev Team and enjoy spending that money.
- Ahmet Alp Balkan
böyle önemli bir iş için fiyat açıklanmadı ama 50 milyon $ deniyor. Bu kadar lakayt bir ortam olur mu yau. Uzaktan baksan gençler eğleniyor dersin
- Fatih Hayrioğlu
Şİmdi yorumları okumadım ama çok kişisel bişi söyleyeceğim. Bu gençlerin milyon dolarları çeviriyor olması durumuna şaşıyorum. Bizim memlekette bu seviyeye gelecek mi veya? Kaç sen uzaktalar bizden bu gençler?
- mustafa can
Bizim şirket sahipleri konunun belli saatler arasında, belli kıyafetlerle ofiste oturmak değil, yapılan işin niteliği olduğunu analdıkları zaman gelir tabii. Ama bence bu gavurların dediği gibi "When the hell freezes over".
- özlem ercan
bu postu türkçe commentlerle doldrmak süper fikir.. sarcasm diil ciddiyim
- MobilAdam
Bakmayın böyle güldüklerine arkada buyuk yatırımcılar olmasa batar gider bunlar..Adamların yatırımcıları işi biliyor...
- Zeki Pehlivan
Great result Paul. In such a short time, millions of users, 1 new interface and a marriage with internets' celebrity. This is a period which you should write down to make it as an on-line business case. You people are really wise businessmen. Nice job, congrats! :)
- Olcayto Cengiz
Not happy happy congrats bullshit from me-I used FF.
- frankiecarl
Frankie, a lot of us use FriendFeed and are concerned about where things are going from here. As I said in my comment above: I'm happy for the staff but displeased with who they chose to sell to. I'm perfectly capable of feeling both emotions at the same time.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
wonderful so normal so ordinary so simple
- Thomas Power
MZ looks like he has just returned from the gym
- Joe Dawson
These guys represent the most talked about entreprises (Ok even more so by geeks in the case of Friendfeed) and they're still in their 20s. We're talking millions of dollars and look how relax they look and casually they're dressed.
- lelapin
Awesome, nice to see they are actually in fact human still.
- Robert Schultz
Great photographs showing the very reason why 99% of all people start their own business - money! Well done and good luck for the future.
- David Jagger
this is so great! congrats paul! im really happy for u guys!
- Jason Pollock
Business is Business and we can only move forward with social-media applications as we herald a new interactive platform. Albeit thanks to the Mothers of all Mothers, Google. Frank Burns
- frank burns
Great blog appreciate all of your "likes" that I would not have noticed before. Thanks for all the time you spend educating us.
- Gary Prechtel
auto-follow always seemed like a bad idea. people can always msg you but your stream will get totally cluttered if you dont do a little bit of housekeeping.
- William Kapes
Oh you are getting quite a response here!!!! I'm commenting so you'll follow me but the thing is you're going to LIKE following me because you'll learn all about Sedona through tons of videos and you'll love it so much you'll want to pack your camera and head out here! =)
- SedonaTV
Thanks for the mentions, Robert (and you know I'm not commenting just for the follow - I just like to follow you, which is what counts!)
- Jesse Stay
Guess I might as well delete that overpriced twitter app I bought last week.
- Shea
from iPhone
Actually Robert, now I've seen you've tidied up your twitter, I'll probably follow you there again too. :-)
- Tim
Meh, who cares really, not like you read everyone you followed. Plus unfollowed you anyways, not like you have to say that's interestined except friendfeed spam.
- Steve
@scobleizer just created the most important tech follow list on Twitter.
- Christian Anderson
aww shucks, and here I was thinking it was just me who you unfollowed.
- Jess Sloss
I underwent the same situation, Robert - I unfollowed almost everybody on Twitter who duplicated their accounts here on FrF. I got a tempest of fury for this action. web3 is too personal still ))
- massagin
I feel fortunate that you're still subbed to me on FF. I haven't even noticed whether you unfollowed me on Twitter. But you following me, still hasn't gotten me the chicks. :P Always fun seeing your posts, long as you don't block me, it doesn't matter if you follow me or not. :)
- Arlan Koizumi
I did the same thing some weeks ago after avoiding twitter because it got too noisy. It was instantly better. But in the mean time I started to use FF more and I like it better here so I hardly go near twitter now.
- Murray Barton
You already follow me here on ff, which i use more than twitter.
- dthree
Don't think you are following me on Twitter anymore..please do and best regards
- Karma Martell
I'm still trying to figure out the following... so I'm watching how you do it scoble.
- Matthew Schrock
Good plan. I'm looking forward to your results. I'm trying to figure out all these social media elements. I would appreciate your Twitter follow.
- David Stanley
Odd internal response, I don't follow everyone who follows me cuz of the very noise you talk about. And, there's no good reason for you to follow me since I'm unlikely to deliver news of interest to you. And yet, here I am, posting on FriendFeed so you have the OPTION of following me, a stranger who is not the same kind of SMART as you. Who'd have thought...
- Della Mauler
Interesting statement about original content value of FF independent of twitter. Twitter is where you keep your noise level down...
- James Watters
This seems like asking for trouble to me, Scoble. But, it's your time and bandwith to do with what you will. Since only a handful of people (by that I think I mean just one) follow me on Twitter, it's pretty easy for me to weed out the bots. The people I follow are my internet nerds (mostly the Rev 3 crew) so I know their interests are in line with mine. Hit me up for some edifying conversations about Lost and video games, Robert.
- Jeremiah Green
Here you go Robert! [also via twitter: @Scobleizer Therefore: only approx. 1.7 million "active" human @Twitter users contribute 50%+ of all activity, right? #engagement] Regards, @AAinslie
- Alexander Ainslie
You're still following me - does that mean I'm a smart feller? ;)
- Brett Kelly
so glad I mail Robert a business card every month :)
- Christian Anderson
Della: the thing is here I can follow you and put you into a list and watch you less frequently than some of my other people. So everyone wins. But only here on FriendFeed. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Some of us have been doing this from our start. Kind of cool, eh? But our numbers don't grow quickly so we were tagged as "slow." Nice to see you catch up with us! Also, this may shock you, there sre folks who follow and communicate with only 3 folks on twitter and they are HAPPY! Imagine....
- lynda spangler
I've long thought the entire Twitter "etiquette" of always following who follows you to be a bit of a folly. I'm following 114 at the moment, and the stream still moves too fast for me to keep up with.
- Darren Landrum
Good test, count me in... I don't follow tons of people, I follow a few prolific Scoble-types and the rest are more focused in areas I'm interested in.
- David Ziembicki
I'm not following tons of people, just a select few. More to follow on FB when facebook has completely integrated Friendfeed-funcionality. ;-)
- Wolfgang G. Wettach
I only follow people I know or have something interesting to say, did you really have 160000 people that said something worthwhile???
- Gerard van Schip
Gerard: everyone says something worthwhile once in a while. The trick is to see it when it happens. Here on FriendFeed, by the way, you have a better shot because good stuff usually gets liked and commented on, so it pulls up higher into my view.
- Robert Scoble
Nice post Robert, and no surprise it's an improvement. ;o) I have seen it for me too.
- Rob Sellen :o)
1 thing I find Robert still worth following @Scobleizer when I am not on friendfeed & on my Hootsuite or PeopleBrowsr. therefore not much affected, not much 2 bother me, ego not gone at all. luv your post Robert it is a frank posting
- polou/indigo_bow
Follow me Robert, I promise I'm not annoying. :) @cluteman
- Greg Clute
from iPhone
Robert, thank you! I follow you and enjoy your "likes" and your energetic takes. I also enjoy your Building43 interviews! I am a constant FriendFeed user now. Thank you!
- Tobin Truog
This made me realise I must be more active on FF and comment/post more :-).
- Mats Pettersson
I think I'll give FriendFeed a go! Never tried it, but looks easy and I need to understand the interwebs better. @CodeSamurai_Com
- CodeSamurai
butt-kissing is not a prerequisite for being followed, he will follow you anyways :D
- Mark
You can follow me, but since you follow a lot of people, you probably can't pay attention to the stream of tweets.
- Alex Knight
Alex..that's the WHOLE point he did this... ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
IMHO 1,647 is still way too many people to follow.
- Alex Knight
I will NOT get baited into ... ah CRAP. I follow very few people on twitter, mainly only to find info from Android developers (my topic of choice). If you mention anything about the food you are currently eating, etc.. you will probably not be followed. If you post 80,000 times a day, you will not be followed, since Twitters interface sucks (not so for FF). Also, no offense to other social users, but if you resend your FF/FB/<insert other social site here> entries to twitter, I probably won't follow.
- Tim Hoeck
Oh..Oh... Mr. Kotter...Mr Kotter..follow me!
- Scott Booher
Glad to see you're writing more than 140 characters on that blog. Doesn't that feel liberating? Maybe we should be allowed character# based on your metric for powerful/smart/newsmaker
- Noah Bloom
You already follow me here on FF, for which I thank you. So, I'll just say thanks for the phone call the other day. :)
- Jeff Harbert
Ok, so follow me again and I will follow you back. Thanks!
- Audrey
Robert - I fail on most of your criteria so I'm not expecting you to follow me. The thing is I don't care if you follow me back - this is social media and everyone has their own choice. I choose to follow you because you entertain and inform me. The relationship is 100% one way and I am more than happy with that!
- Pon
Robert - Last night at GDGT Party the person at the Blackberry booth said: 1) She had 'heard of Twitter, never friend feed' uses neither 2) Is SCOBLE is coming tonight 3) Wow, your Blackberry is really "archaic" and find out when contract lets you upgrade. F-D UP? Booth babes need primers.
- Liza
Interesting theory... people who comment more apt to contribute?
- Mark Philpot
I know someone else who tried this strategy last year, with similar results. I've been debating it. Once I got over 3K followers on Twitter life just got weird. Started to spend X amount of time every day blocking porn spam.
- Patricia F. Anderson
Liza: yeah, sorry for not coming to the party. I went and saw Obama's CTO instead.
- Robert Scoble
Steve Lynch: my Dunbar number is higher than yours is. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Nice summary Robert on the whole Unfollow thing, but would it be too repetitive if I re-post on my FF?
- Keith Rowland
What is the best friend feed aggregation strategy of non-friend streams (eg RSS, twitter, etc)? Imaginary friend per service, then add to lists? Multiple services per imaginary friend or 1 to 1? Or add the services to a group? What are the considerations?
- John Brown
Keith: you can repost anywhere you like, thanks!
- Robert Scoble
still wondering how you are able to handle such a big load of subscribers here and e.g. so many followers with twitter o_0. I am already (sometimes) lost with the few i got till now. Lately with one sweep almost 40 to 50 contacts in twitter disappeard and i have no clue why ... boah, how are you handling the noise? Hell, with so many ppl in, you might have a terrific noise? Or you wear just good headphones ;)?
- Ronald
I very much agree that being choosy is the key to Twitter. I'm not nearly on the scale that you are, but in my experience, freely following people (whetther they follow me or not) and then mercilessly cutting back on them over and over again results in a kind of darwinianly better and better signal to noise ratio.
- Tim Maly
Liked the blog post and totally agree. I've been meaning to do something similar. What I do is occasionally prune and then add some "better" replacements, so my total is always 2000 follows.
- Bora Zivkovic
I don't see how anyone can manage so many users without groups. Then again, with groups you could just make an "ignore" group.
- Oscar M. Cantu
from iPhone
Great blog post. I totally agree on the noise level. I figure I have blocked a few hundred accounts on Twitter, and my noise level has dropped dramatically. Thanks for the follow!
- Tony "Frosty" Welch
Robert - I figured you were in DC from FF, but she had NO IDEA what a CTO is. Point is, she was eager to give you a Blackberry, but not me, and I wish I had a Scoble costume to pretend for 5 minutes.
- Liza
@Robert I think you are starting another mass follow again.
- Steve Chou
from fftogo
Steve: that's not the problem. As long as spam doesn't enter the system I can deal. Keep in mind here I can choose how I follow. I can put you all in a folder that I never look at, if I wanted to.
- Robert Scoble
my feelings were hurt that you unsubscribed to me on twitter, but i agree with your methods
- Brian Appleby
Brian, yeah, but I follow you here. So there.
- Robert Scoble
really doesn't matter as long as i can follow you, that's the beauty of these services
- Brian Appleby
How did you come to follow so many to begin with? I get annoyed with ppl and unfollowing is easier than sifting through their garbage constantly.
- R1CC1
Autofollow was a horrible idea to begin with.
- David Chieng
I kind of tired to keep an eye on who follows me now,the ones I'm following is much more important.:-)
- Steve Chou
from fftogo
Robert: we need more intelligent spam-follower-filtering on Twitter! We need to fix this.
- Steve Lynch
from twhirl
@David +1 I think auto follow is such a bad idea to begin with,and people like Robert now even need to pay to unfollow these people.
- Steve Chou
from IM
How much did SocialToo charge for running the unfollow script?
- Shane
I've always been very picky in who I follow on twitter. I follow 40 people, and I can't guarantee that I see every single tweet. I don't scroll back usually, unless it's my "Real Life" column in Tweetdeck that couldn't fit on my screen.
- Tom Ribbens
My birthday is also January 18th, therefore you must follow me Robert! ;)
- Chris Luckhardt
from BuddyFeed
Thanks Steve! $25 is pretty reasonable. Wonder if anyone else will be jumping on the bandwagon
- Shane
Sometimes the tortoise beats the hare after all... building organically based on getting to know people and interactions tends to avoid the ghastly spammers, seo peeps and bots
- Sally Church
I'm outside your sphere, but bootstrapping is bootstrapping right?
- Travis Bedard
Tuesday night for the first time in 2 months I UNfollowed everyone on Twitter who wasn't following me. Since you had UNfollowed me, yup I unfollowed you. My Twitter account is so /FUBARed! It only goes to page 506 to show who I'm following and after that it is BLANK! I don't even know if they show in my Home stream. So Robert, I value what you say. Know I can tweet profusely - but it's as @replies to others with the occasional micro-blog thrown in. Question, what DID I do to cause you to UNfollow me?
- Arleen Anderson
Oops - I also meant to ask, Robert: how are you managing to follow the couple thousand that you are now re-following on Twitter? You must be using groups, I guess...any other methods? I find ~500 people to be a near max in terms of how many folks I can fully read.
- Lance M. Brown
Following your inspiration, I unfollowed almost 100 people last night and blocked about 1000 spammers, cam girls, MLM marketers, and the like. Twitter is more like it was a year ago, its almost like I gave my Twitter account an enema and it worked. Thanks for the original idea.
- Mark Edwards
Robert, I started out only following those I know and those I am genuinely interested in. I've only followed back a few of the people who've followed me. I have a second account that I decided to experiment with. I followed about 700 people on there. It has had about double the followers of my main account consistently. I am about to try some new tricks there with an auto-follow script I'm writing but I think I will stay the course with my main account.
- Paul The Raven
Robert, I tried the "follow everyone" (almost) method for a short time - then I'd unfollow about once-a-week. Now I try to schedule a "follow new" once a week. TweetDeck's group feature makes following lots of folks bearable. So does FF, but you've been saying that for-ever!
- Kathy E Gill
I will follow you if you follow me (Genesis)
- Keith Barrett
I may not be smart, but I'm smart enough to follow you!
- John Pfaff
It occurred to me (and surely to someone before me), that different definitions of "following" might be a big factor here. If I'm following someone, it means I'm following along with their updates. But others might see themselves more as becoming part of a person's "following". Not that they are necessarily reading the person's stuff, but they are willing to be considered part of that person's inflated Twitter posse, as part of the influence-trading aspect of Twitter.
- Lance M. Brown
Robert, I think that the biggest thing that changed is not that you were "wrong" (to follow everyone) before but that the Twitter population has changed so much. A year ago, pretty much everyone on Twitter was real, and interesting - now there's so much automated gaming the system going on that the signal to noise ratio has gotten unbearable. So I think anyone who cares about more than...
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- Matthew Blaisdell
I can't imagine how it would happen technologically, but it would be great if there was a way to ditch followers who weren't actually reading your tweets.
- Lance M. Brown
Enjoyed recent posts and look forward to more from you! Keep it up.
- One Degree Connected
All right, I'll bite :) - although I'll say that I did the mass-unfollow-thing months ago - long before it was cool.
- Justin
from Nambu
Your most active followers are on FF. No loss.If you really wanted to make a bold statement you ought to have blocked all of your followers and started from scratch.
- Benjamin Taylor
Been a while since I put you and Shel On the record...Online
- Eric Schwartzman
Good article Robert. I honestly enjoyed the perspective. I found the same to be true, but on a much lower scale, of course ;-)
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
I don't get it - so now you are using Twitter kinda like a normal person, and its some kind of miracle that it works better?
- Nick Lothian
I'm impressed you can keep up with 1600 people. I have trouble enough with the little amount I have. I did find that making FriendFeed imaginary friends and putting them in groups for those I'd like to read occasionally (but not on a regular basis) has helped a lot
- Tamara
me! i offer nothing but the warm feeling of having accepted a ff reject.
- Marco
ok. so how will you filter the noise now
- Kfir Pravda
Ooo, I've won the lottery. You'll follow me now. Wheeee! (how do you have the time to go through all of the names by hand? VA assistance?)
- Peggy Dolane
Interesting trend on twitter - I always wondered what sense it made to follow tens of thousands of people, too much noise. I'm finding it hard enough to follow 2900 (looking to cull even that down as I mostly tweet about 30 people!)
- Tia Singh, Life Coach
I like your ability to influence so many people. I'm following you (mostly here - on FriendFeed) because it's one of the ways to learn how you do it (but, please, do not follow me if you do not see anything you could learn from me :-).
- Hanna Wiszniewska
I would come up w/ a better vetting process.
- Joe
got to get a pic up so i can fit the criteria, I only follow 45 people and some of them are on thin ice ( Im lookin at you Scoble)
- James Hunter
"Where in The Net is Robert San Diego?" (cit.) :-)
- Luca Perugini
from iPhone
I'm not kissing your arse,but i do learn a lot listening to you.
- Paul Downing
@scobleizer why would you randomly follow people who comment in this post when you just got done knocking FFollo and having to unfollow a gazillion people on Twitter?
- Bryan Zirkel
Bryan: because I'm following people one by one and putting them into lists on my screen. Autofollowing means you aren't doing ANY of that thinking. Also, autofollowing will get you spammers, if they ever show up (and they will).
- Robert Scoble
@Robert: Read your blogpost and that's indeed what I look at to follow people too. No autofollow and even close friends have to tell something interesting for me to (keep) following. Friends who are new to Twitter (no tweets yet) get the benefit of doubt.
- Patrick Mackaaij
If you follow me, great, but if you don't I'll understand. :) And I ought to do some pruning myself...
- Grant Bierman
I still don't understand how you want to follow someone who just writes a comment over here. Well, this is not the first time. I did not understand why and how you followed 100k people. I find it hard to properly follow 100 people.
- Sumanth Kolar
Sumanth: obviously there are degrees of "following." When you read the New York Times, do you read the entire paper word for word? I don't. Same when I'm following. I only get random slices of some of my lists. Others, which have 500 people on them, get 100% read.
- Robert Scoble
I'm still here . . . although tired after teaching all day. Louis Gray came to my PR class at SFSU and WOWED the 50 students [except for one who thinks we are making too much of social media] We won't be following him.
- Shari Weiss
I still like the "stranger stream" of Twitter vs "friend feed" of other applications. I don't feel the need to read all tweets from everybody - and tools let me check my fave tweeples. I think mass unfollowing destroys some of the social contract - Robert you are lucky because you are well liked and can do some risky things but companies for example (not Brands of One) would be in...
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- Laurel Papworth
As @charleneli predicted back in January, 2009 will be the year of de-friending on social networks. It's here.
- Mark Evans
Laurel: yeah, you have to navigate these waters carefully if you are representing a brand, that's for sure!
- Robert Scoble
i will not get followed back: not powerful, don't have a brand, not a news maker... but i kinda understand the reasons
- Dani Martínez
I still think it all goes into how you use twitter. If your using it as a communication tool it depends on if you are looking for broadcast or 2 way. Its interesting to watch as some of the bigger names turn back from the broadcast and go back to the 2 way.
- Luke Kilpatrick
@Robert so when you're taking in information from FF do you have a feed of several dozen/hundred "key" people and then categorize the rest, or are you mainly searching? Do you utilize groups at all or mainly just rely on what comes across your feeds? I guess I'm curious as to how you're using FF to collect information.
- Bryan Zirkel
I have found Twitter becomes noise rather than a conversation once the following/follower thing gets over a certain mark. I think this is the dirty little secret of Twitter - if it just turns into white noise, rather than a filter, then it becomes less than useful.
- Michael Liss
I'm interested in how we'll all feel over the next few years as social networks continue to change and more people and organizations get on them. Obviously, many of us are getting fed up with spammers and are unfollowing them on Twitter and Facebook. I am also having a hard time keeping up with new subscribers on FriendFeed because I know less about them from their profiles and have to...
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- Cathryn Hrudicka
BTW, I feel like I'm finding lots of interesting new people to follow from these discussions that Robert and others are holding on FF. Cool!
- Cathryn Hrudicka
Am I too late to comment and get followed?
- Hichame Assi
LOL! I follow those I find interesting and which can give me useful information. And hope someone follows me for the same reasons.
- Flavio
Very interesting post - I've always thought that you guys who follow loads of people must get completely swamped by noise! Like you, I've found it useful to follow companies I use that have interesting products like Zoho and Evernote as a way of keeping up to date with their latest innovations. Excellent idea spelling out your "follow criteria" - it needs to become standard etiquette for social networks so that people don't get offended when they aren't followed back :) .
- David Meredith
aren't you doing the same thing here, that you did in Twitter? Choose carefully who you follow, filling your brain with pollution doesn't make you smarter
- Allison
Just finished reading the Mashable post on your unfollow exercise. It's attracting attention from all the other big names now.
- George Hall (Australia)
Very interesting indeed, I only to unfollow a few, cause I just never had auto follow on.. So now I just unfollow the ones I'm bored of..
- Jaap Willem
Seems like a good idea. Although Louis Gray also has a few valid points on his latest blog post why it might be a mistake http://bit.ly/19UKxk
- Silver Hage
I've never understood the auto-follow procedure on any social network. Even on Facebook, where it is obligatory, one can still lower the noise by simply hiding the updates of those who want to follow you, but perhaps also have little personal connection and therefore can be hidden.
- Noah Gray
It seems like the unfollowing was the easy part. Choosing who to follow again must have been a chore. I think it is crucial in twitter (and FriendFeed for that matter) to have a clear out every six months or so otherwise you get bogged down in an information feed you don't really care about.
- Chris Nixon
I can totally understand why you had to do this. I'm following 2700-ish folks on Twitter and I need 3 groups to manage it (using TweetDeck). I feel I am keeping up with most of my local community and the general tech community at large though I'm sure I'm still missing quite a bit of stuff from people who are not in the 3 groups. I also wonder how much more I can actually handle.
- Ken Seto
Um... well, I made something of myself, but then I didn't like what I made, so now I'm doing it all over again. Not sure how that fits with your criteria! Plus, I really don't have a brand or any influence to speak of. I do look great in boxers, however.
- Mark "DerBingle" J
OK, OK, changed my picture. Instead of a green clock (a clock is my personal brand) I put a picture of myself. A lot of people told me to do that....
- Bora Zivkovic
I am still looking for info on holographic technology being used for news delivery. Perhaps it's a technology that hasn't even been invented yet or is sitting on a shelf somewhere. What say you? http://specialdee.wordpress.com/2009...
- Denise
Hoping your new look account has had the desired effect. No need to follow me, I'm not the interesting type, I'll just be glad if your insights, links & content continues. Congrats & good luck
- JanLawrence
Here's what's interesting, Robert, I've noticed an uptick in followers even if you reply or RT or like someone's tweet, not just if you follow that person. Then again, perhaps that's the intent - if you like or RT someone's idea, that's a kind of stamp of approval.
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
The Scoble Pendulum.. How long till we go back to FOLLOW!! FOLLOW!!! FOLLOW!!!! ? :)
- Adrian Scicluna
I did a purge on Facebook for the same reasons a few months ago. It's under 300 and it's people I actually care about. I've come "this close" to running a purge on Twitter but haven't yet. Maybe this will spark me to do it. I've kept FF tight from the beginning.
- Rob Williams
moving from FB to FF ... fewer, longer, more meaningful threads. welcoming your follow. cheers
- marc calamia
alright - follow me... - thx in advance Robert Scoble...
- Nilesh
All that commenting in the past counts for nothing?
- Kevin Gamble
Hey Robert... Great post... On FriendFeed, I increasingly put people without meaningful and valuable content on a separate feed that I rarely check... Its a more "sensible" way to unfollow, i think... I only unsubscribe if I get pissed at someone etc. I wish, FF gave users the option to only unsubscribe from comments and likes (but keep the main feed). This would be a good tool to control the noise...
- Onur Kabadayi
I agree with Robert (duh!). I very briefly made the effort of checking out the new follows and deciding whether to follow back. I think once I hit a thousand I shifted to a model of occasionally saying, "If you want me to follow you, talk to me." Hit two thousand and quit saying anything or checking followers. I don't care if they follow me as long as they either say useful things like real people or don't talk at all. I've never autofollowed back. This strategy works for me.
- Patricia F. Anderson
I have a large difference between people I follow (around 2000) and people who follow me (around 1800) - I choose people who are important sources of information. People choose me if they think I am an important source of information to them. I never thought it would have to be a one-to-one relationship as to who is useful to whom: some are informative, others are good listeners and learners. I learn from people I follow and I hope my followers learn from me.
- Bora Zivkovic
I also think that those of us who follow larger numbers of people don't use the stream in the same way. It is more dipping in and out of the stream, trusting that the important stuff will be repeated enough to float to the top, engaging with conversations of the moment. I wrote a blogpost on this earlier this year: http://etechlib.wordpress.com/2009...
- Patricia F. Anderson
Someone told me twitter can be separated into two types. (id say at least two)
- Kay Proskin
Scoble, I am beginning to think you are a cult leader :). Look at all these comments! I am using FF more and more these days... Useful for eGuiders.com that's for sure.
- Marc Ostrick
I like Robert. He was one of the first people I followed on Twitter and brought me to FF. But I don't understand why people are desperate to have him follow them. Status? Some kind of virtual autograph?
- Tech Introvert
What the heck. Follow me if you like. I'll be as entertaining & informative as I can.
- Aaron Schaub
from iPod
Been considering doing the same. Your post just might be the flame that lights a fire you-know-where to get it done.
- Kate
I only follow a few people and keep losing track so lord only knows how you managed to even begin to keep track of a conversation before friendfeed came along
- Iain
from BuddyFeed
Well done! Who need followers that aren't reading your tweets anyway.
- Sean Rasmussen
I'm considering doing same once I'm more confident in my use of FriendFeed. I RT'd this and it resonated with at least one of my followers.
- Tony Hollingsworth
'Hand-crafted personal network' is the meme of the moment, and whilst I can see the workmanship, where's the value going to be for you, Robert, in following this rag-tag (no offence people :) ) of folks from a gazillion different verticals. (OK, so they're mostly life scientists).
- Andrew Spong
I use to want to be Bob Dylan. Now I am not so sure.
- ZuDfunck
My take: you can't be an authentic, credible voice to your community if you let 'sex & dollars' spammers hang on to your coattails. Spam followers matter.... in a bad way. Allowing them to be associated with you diminishes your potential value to genuine followers. It's a pain. It takes time. It's worth doing. More on this, if interested: http://tr.im/vJwb
- Andrew Spong
Hope to see more "old fashioned blogging", like it better than tweets. Tweets are bound to disappear into oblivion the moment they're posted.
- Willem (@wim66) ☠
"Spam followers matter.... in a bad way." - I certainly agree with this. I block pornbots just as quickly as they follow me. I'm less vigilant about the commercial follows, but usually they go away by themselves after a while.
- John Craft
You're already following me here (don't care about twitter tough), so i just hope you don't un-follow, even though you probably don't understand what i'm talking about most of the time, since it's in portuguese.
- Diego Sana
So what happened to the advantages to following so many people you always talked about?
- Bas
Thanks for connecting here, still learning all the advantages of FF
- carece
@Andrew Regarding spam followers and the idea that allowing them to follow you somehow dilutes your credibility, I just have to disagree. To me that places the burden on the wrong person. I don't have time to waste pruning those who follow me, unless they are overtly annoying.My stream is public, they can follow me anyway. What matters to me is that the spammers leave me alone. If they don't, I block them. If they keep quiet, I don't care.
- Patricia F. Anderson
What is important is not who follows me, but who *I* follow.
- Patricia F. Anderson
Follow me if you want, but I gotta warn ya, it's scintillating stuff!
- Pierce Presley
Funny my twitter feed is much noisier but I have been very selective on who I follow. I have tried to make the feed relevant and actionable. At times I post things that seem out of the norm on my twitter feed but that is mainly for the few people who follow me that don't get it but I am trying to keep up their interest level. I also control who follows me, yes this breaks the model but I think the follow everyone model was broken and reckless
- Richard Gallo
Am I interesting? Dunno. I'm often controversial, tho. ;) BTW, we met in person at a Pittsburgh Blogfest, but I really don't expect you to remember that.
- Eric Williams
Enjoyed the post. I just started Twitter a few days ago to get away from Facebook. I like friendfeed the best - can't wait until it becomes more mainstream.
- Robby Parker
Awesome move. Consider that my comment please :)
- Charlotte Barker
friendfeed is definitively more evolved that Twitter. Conversely, user bases of Twitter is still its real (and unique) point of strenght...
- Marco Castellani
Don't want you to follow me (unless you find my stream of interest) but it's quite interesting the number of people that comment to get you to follow!
- Ben Drury
Hey Robert! So, I would like to talk to you about a social media company I'm working with right now. They launched a few months ago and their trajectory and momentum is pretty amazing. Oh, and I started unfollowing the noise in my Twitter after I commented on your blog post.
- Gregg Le Blanc
Great ideas. I've been selective (though it fluctuates) about following people/accounts on Twitter since I joined about 2 years ago. I can't take too much noise.
- Joe Lance
from twhirl
I'm asking the same thing Bas asked... what about your video on the benefits of following so many people? I took a stab at that method of madness by starting to follow all kinds of people, and following anyone that followed me... but I always felt like I was missing good content from good people because of all the "spam". I started to use TweetDeck to create groups/columns for...
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- Timothy Federwitz
@Patricia - reminds me that I should probably review all my twitter followers and thin things down. :)
- JA Castillo
I did almost the same thing - unfollowed about 1000 from my 1500, no attention is way better
- Maarten den Braber
Couldn't agree more. It's about time we all grew up. BTW Don't follow me. :-)
- Gee Ranasinha
Robert what's the deal with Twitter?
- stockmanmarc
Your post makes good sense. I didn't auto-follow & still find folks to unfollow because their noise gets too loud.
- Debra Ellis
Very clever. I imagine the signal to noise is sooooo much better.
- Chris Brogan
I've been thinking about unfollowing a bunch twitter folks as well. I'll look at SocialToo again. My initial experience with SocialToo wasn't good. However, it was during their infancy.
- Ron Hudson
I don't blame you at all. Leo was all over that yesterday.
- Daniel B. Honigman
why would simply leaving a comment prompt you to follow me?
- David Wescott
You're not going to change your mind and mass unfollow us are you?
- walidmREALTOR
I suspect it identifies you as a real person interested in dialog, David.
- Eric Williams
Followers are currency and you have plenty to spend
- Lee Odden
Bob, did you do anything on Twitter recently ? Did you massively refollow people ? Seems like you screwed up Twitter : down for a while... ;-)
- Enikao
Your ego is amazing. You make it seem like it is a special deal to be followed by you. I'm glad there are many very bright, talented people here who follow others, regardless of class, education, social status and not based on some snobbish criteria.
- RuthNH
Wow, this is a lot of comments. And kudos for following Followable people who have something interesting to contribute to your day. I'm glad you did it, because that means you'll find AND share more interesting things. This, in turn, makes you more followable too. Thanks for seeing the light, so to speak.
- ax0n
Did this take down Twitter this morning Robert?
- frank barry
That must of taken a long time :-) I've always been a fan of twitter, but I must say they have struggled in the last few weeks. We are working with their API on a project and their seems to be an issue every other day that causes problems. Do they have what it takes?
- Chris Nadeau
I follow under 200 people and it's great. I can't imagine 1k+ . I add about three or four a month.
- Mike Janicke
I unfollow people when I find I ignore their tweets/updates. After reading your blog, I think we ALL need to be more judicious.
- Janet Barker-Evans
Is this why Twitter is down? LOL! Can't check to see if you unfollowed me. Hope not. You, Shel Israel, and Jeremiah Owyang were some of the very first people I followed way back before Twitter even had 100,000 people on the service. -- It's been a fun ride but, of course, the spammers always show up to make things difficult.
- Brenda Young
How do you really know if you should be following someone until you follow them for a while? Sometimes I don't start talking to someone until I see a common interest, then I tweet back and we start talking, but that could be months later. I don't follow everyone back, but I follow back those that interact. I will unfollow once I see that won't happen, or I don't like their tweets.
- Nadine Gilden
Twitter is victime of it own success, they have to re learn how to scal better, but more important they have to learn to share better.
- abdellah
looks like you'll need to follow at least 343 people LOL
- Shari Weiss
Friendfeed takes over for twitter finally?
- Thomas Resing
@Patricia I don't want potential followers to be put off by who is following me. I wouldn't want them to think I care more about have n+1 followers than I do about what they're going to see if they review who I've allowed to follow me. Not to cull spammers suggests I care more about my experience than theirs. To a great extent, the quality of their experience will determine the quality...
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- Andrew Spong
1600 ... isn't that a big number too? It could be you'll think again before you follow every one here :)
- Mario Gastaldi
Still waiting for my Building 43 t-shirt. Not that I'm bitter or anything. ;-)
- Donna Tuttle
Be sure to come by Dallas when you swing through Texas!
- Zaneology
from Nambu
Respect your opinion Robert but we'll have to agree to disagree. Yes I despise all the FakePornSpamBots who follow me. I block as many as I can, but can't keep up. Our views differ regarding what is important to SEE! I treasure home Home stream! I read it, refresh, read, refresh and in minutes I have the pulse of the world... at least MY world! EVERYONE has something of value to share at some point. If I UNfollow tens of thousands, I will miss so much worthy of consideration.
- Arleen Anderson
Just another reason why it's good to diversify, I can still read your posts here. :)
- Luis Sandoval
Funny. I was catching up on news on Friendfeed for some odd reason. Great post; plenty for new and long-time users alike to consider there.
- Alex Howard
I'm still waiting for the ultimate tool to manage my followings - I can only manage to keep up with about 1/3 of those following me. I'd love to see something that can tell me what friends of mine also follow those that I am or those that are following me. Maybe it's out there and I missed it?
- TheDiva Rockin
Anyone interested in assessing the quality of their followers should check http://tweetblocker.com. It's pretty chastening. I aim to improve on my C rating. http://www.buzzom.com is a fun, fast way of decoupling yourself from non-reciprocal followers. You can select individuals to purge, or flush 50 random non-reciprocal followers at a time.
- Andrew Spong
Robert, your timing could not be better. ;-)
- Dave Martin
Great post, with perfect timing! Dang it, Dave Martin just took it off my lips.
- Vadim Lavrusik
I hereby rename this comment thread neoTwitter <waves at followers>
- Andrew Spong
Awww, you gotta admit, saturation, the level of influence that you have, because of your high follower, count, is a tool of mass destruction. Seriously, did you think if you recommend an online service that people would not try it out? Was this an asassination attempt
- Peter Murphy
I'm glad i'm not the only one who misses /me actions from IRC, Kevin. ;)
- Eric Williams
With today's Twitter outage your timing is pretty stinking good, Robert. :)
- Chris Cree
Now to get the rest of the world to follow that same logic when it comes to follow/unfollow! I only started being more selective as Twitter (and everyone else) started getting aggressive with spammers or anyone that even remotely did a single spammy tweet. Now if only there were the same contact management tools available for the other social networks as with Twitter. No matter what though, I'll continue updating my status when I eat a peanut butter sandwich! (With Fluff of course!).
- Paul Monaco
Now I think that it is time to think about a way to make money using Twitter.
- abdellah
@Mark, +1. When in doubt, the default delegation of blame goes to Robert.
- Dave Martin
what is critical mass for twitter? Too few and nobody interacts, Too many and spam bots overwhelm, Is it 1K or 2K needed to get a real experience?
- WarLord
Hmm can you unsubscribe from "comment notification via e-mail" in FF on a *specific* topic? This one :-)
- Patrick Mackaaij
Of course I thonk it is a different experience if you hand follow reading each bio from the beginning then these mass purges are unnecessary
- WarLord
I am intrigued how RT addict will RT now?!! (ps: FF please don't post this to my twitter)
- abdellah
I have been keeping my twitter account private a majority of the time lately b/c I am going through a divorce, but I really kinda like it. Have been reducing followers as well as the number I follow.
- Jackson Miller
You should follow me here in FF and on Twitter too!
- Karthi
hopefully most of us have proven our worth beyond commenting on this single thread
- andy brudtkuhl
If you are already following me on ff does that mean I get a cookie or something? ;-)
- Tomy Thomson
I'll add my name to the list. I came back to FF after the Twitter DoS outage. Maybe Scoble broke Twitter by all his unfollowing. He was the "glue" holding Twitter together. :-)
- Tom Newman
Robert: Here's the bit you missed off the end of your title here: .... and put them in that group I don't read :-)
- Jim Connolly
add me for your social media and the practice of law news!
- Rex Gradeless
Great post. I'm sure that some people might say that this kind of mass unfollowing will hurt Twitter, but I think it's just the opposite. Users who are following people they have no interest in just to pad their own numbers are diminishing the meaning of "following."
- Mark Denton
To stave off being unfollowed we need to comment here ya say?
- Jason
you are already following me here... perhaps you'll consider re-following me on twitter too
- tinym dot com
I don't know how you ever did it the other way. I am not in the tech world near as much as I used to be, which wasn't a whole lot. I just followed some random people I saw on SMugMug-related people on here when I started. You were one of them. I had no idea who you were (and still don't :-), but you talked about Twitter a lot too, which got me on there as well. Both services have really...
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- James Schipper
Quality over quantity in all things, including (perhaps especially) Twitter. Loved your friending methodology -- those are the same rules I've applied since being on Twitter. Posted them onto Posterous to share the love with credit to you: http://lorilaurentsmith.posterous.com/
- Lori Laurent Smith
it's not about unfollowing, it's about filtering...
- Barak Hachamov
I started out following everyone on Twitter.Then I got wise. When someone's stream becomes more noise than signal, that's when I consider unfollowing. I realize that threshhold is different for everyone, but I'll take "what I had for lunch" over a dozen bogus "marketing tips" any day.
- Julie Barrett
from twhirl
Well, I am trying to use FriendFeed more after watching Scoble's video on all those monitors he had up. I'm not a big consumer of information and don't own a TV but this online social stuff has been a perfect fit into my life because I can connect with people who are fountains of knowledge on a specific subject or are "human mashups". I like both!
- Adria Richards
I've been reading al of this unfollow bits, and this point of yours:
- Donna
Hey, I think that today you might make your point about FriendFeed being more interesting than Twitter. Hope you are well. Talked with @fransteps this morning and she is excited to work with you at Rackspace.
- Kami Huyse
I've been reading all of this un-follow posts lately, and this point of yours in WHY you unfollowed: "#2 Because I personally care about everyone I am following their noise level is a LOT lower. ." Is exactly what I do. And now I am starting to understand Friendfeed more. and using posterous to do aggregate posts. So is this overload making more people sit up and think first? I think so. At least the intelligent ones.
- Donna
This is a great move, Robert. It's also a lot more human...I was almost convinced that you were the only person who could actually drink from the fire hose without choking.
- Steffan Antonas
That sounds fair. After this morning, I've renewed my love for FriendFeed and Tweetworks. Until the next DDos attacks, of course. I will miss the fake porn stars, but I did when I moved from L.A.
- Scott Pierce
Steffan; I agree...there is no way anyone else could do what Robert S. does. It's good to see him become human.
- Robert Jones
This has been my problem for about the past six months. I routinely go in and unfollow, get the noise level down to where I want it, and then end up following back a bunch of new people, some of whom I'm incredibly grateful to get to know. When I had track, it was a whole lot easier to manage the stream, but I suspect even that tool would now be out of hand. I have a set of rules for...
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- Karoli
hee hee. i am commenting not so much to beg your follow but what a clever pitch:)
- Tresha Thorsen
Robert - I have not read all 416 comments so if this was asked and you answered forgive me. What was the all of a sudden revelation that caused you to reverse stance on Twitter Followers?
- Jeff Vreeland
It's difficult to maintain and filter a list on all the social networking sites. I cannot even imagine maintaining the kinds of lists you must deal with, Robert.
- Jeremy Brooks
Dude, you broke Twitter! When you unfollowed all of your 100,000 the other day you pulled the rug right out from under it, so it fell down and now it can't reach its beer. :-)
- Robert Morrison
Actually I felt rather sad being fav'ed by you on FriendFeed then dumped.. But again. I get more from you from FriendFeed, so oh well, stop talking about Following and Get on more with Tech! :P
- Du Senyao Peter
i like the idea of importing favorite tweets into friendfeed. i haven't used that favorite feature much because i haven't seen any real use in it. thanks!
- Jonathan Blundell
When twitter is down I always wish I could tweet: checkout friendfeed. Nevertheless, how will following folk that leave a message here really improve the quality of your input? While I don't want to judge many of the fine folk on this thread, are they all that interesting? In other words, isn't this the start of the same problem you had on Twitter...
- Jon Mountjoy
Robert, but why clutter your FriendFeed stream? This comment is not to get you to courtesy follow me on FriendFeed, think you've established you've changed your thinking. :)
- L.P. NEENZ FALEAFINE
OK, I have enough people to follow so I will close the comments on this thread. Thank you everyone, I will try to get to everyone today.
- Robert Scoble
I like the idea, but not the name. Seems kind of bias right off the bat. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the innovation that Google brings to the table, but to name the freakin' show after Google?? Can you tell that I am a big fan of Dvorak :)
- rodney.franklin
Think it was a big mistake to put the name "google" in the title, but will probably be a great show anyways.
- Steven Legault
this is great, so much to talk about, and so much to learn. I think most people have no idea the range of services that are emerging from both Google and Amazon related to cloud services that will be invaluable for the small or start-up business as well as consumers....
- Howie Schechtman
Can't wait! A new and exciting podcast for a new and exciting era of computing!
- Josh Rosen
Oh no!!! Not more Leo Podcasts!!! :-) Sure I'll be there!
- Richard Bitting
Can't wait, Leo! I'll subscribe immediately. This is an excellent topic and I'm really glad to see the best podcast network on the Internet jumping right in to cover it.
- Eric Geller
I'm really interested to see how this show goes. This is a big topic heading into our future.
- Mike Nayyar
I'm not fond of the "Google" in the name either, it's like calling a car show "This Week in Gerneral Motors". But I'll try to listen in to the taping anyways, should be funny & knowledgable with the three of you.
- Martin
This sounds like a good show, and nice graphics! But how do you have time leo?! Sometimes during somewhat slow news weeks there is some overlap in news like macbreak and twit which can sometimes be annoying but still great shows as I'm sure this one will be as well. WIll jeff and gina always be there or more of a twit interchangeable style?
- Denis Dervisevic
Looking forward to it, I love your other shows and Gina Trapani is great.
- Brandon Eaker
All things Google. Not all things Twitter? LOL Should be interesting. I was listening when you spoke of this show as a, maybe. I'll be there.
- D Lets
Ready to listen to the big three Windows Weekly, MacBreak Weekly and This Week in Google...TWiT is in a class by itself.
- Christopher Knopick
Windows Weekly is the best because Paul does something 90% of the TWiT network hosts don't do: RESEARCH!
- Mark
Should call it "this week in the clouds"
- Stan
from iPhone
Gina is great, as is Jeff. I really look forward to seeing how this show develops.
- Lori Todd
Google is taking over the world. Chrome OS = Android 2.0 for large laptop screens, Google Voice on Android and White Spaces will kill the $1 Trillion Telecom and ISP industry, you should talk about those ARM processor based netbooks that are coming out with Chrome browser in the next few months, they will take over the whole laptop market and start costing $150 with no contracts.
- Charbax
Great show Leo. Great way to kick off Sunday morning. will try with hangover next week
- guydownunder
from iPhone
TWiG was great! It really makes me want to dive into the cloud. :)
- Curt Tweedle
There is one This Week in Google podcast in iTunes, but it's not this one ;)
- Reijo
Someone else already took the name? Naughty Leo for not checking lol
- Mark
from iPhone
Mark, they did one episode and it was 2 years ago. I don't think they'll have any issues with the president of the internet using the same title...
- MλTT
It would be ironic if it was the twitvid folks who made the podcast hehe. Leos show was much better anyways
- Mark
from iPhone
I have been looking forward to this show since you first announced it. Thanks!
- Bruce Vittetoe
Gina T. mentioned y'day it wasn't up on iTunes yet, but they were working on it. Sounds like another TWiT winner!
- Rob Greco
from email
Great what a good idea since Google seems to run the show/
- Rob Cairns
Gina's great, glad to hear about it, Leo, thanks.
- randulo
Looking for it on iTunes here too, nothing yet.
- Andrew Leahey
Take a while to appear on iTunes. Meanwhile you can add it manually to iTunes with the following URL: http://leo.am/podcasts/twig Thanks for listening!
- Leo Laporte
What was that thing that Jeff Jarvis brought up at about 46:00 and it sounded like; Prezee or Prez-e? I have looked on Google and I found nothing.
- AquaGeneral
Funny how the startup life of late nights and constant code-cleaning begins after u come out of beta in this case :)
- Kamath (नमः)
Congratulations. I'm on leave enjoying the first weeks of our baby girl's life & our +1 family: do make sure to make time for this if you can!
- Wade Dorrell
Congrats. Just brought our fourth, a little boy, home today. Kids are a wonderful blessing!
- Gary Gifford Jr
from iPhone
here's my advice about having two babies in your house: let me tell you that is a lot of babies. you might want to add a third adult to your household to scale the load :-)
- Brian Hendrickson
Everyone's seen the FCC letters to Apple, Google, and AT&T, right?
- Jason Miller
This week in Google? - Is this a new show... did I miss an announcement?
- Roy Herrod
Wouldn't we ALL like to see answers to those letters? I would. They're asking all the questions many of us have been asking outside of the GV Mobile app situation.
- Jason Miller
AT&T has blcoked Skype and Google Voice on My BB Bold without using cell minutes.
- earl wallace
i think i might get a G2 .. looks good
- Aaron Dyer
Jude, ahh that explains it! Unfortunately I can't listen now so will have to download it tomorrow, looking forward to it!
- Roy Herrod
Speaking of open alternatives, I'm sitting here right now with a Linux command prompt on my Palm Pre, installing "homebrew" applications and messing with the UI...
- Ken Sheppardson
ken, whats the battery life like on your pre?
- Aaron Dyer
Aaron: It's not that great... I can easily kill it in a day if I'm using the radios heavily, but I have to say the Touchstone completely changes the way I think about battery life and charging the device: every time I take it out of my pocket and set it down on the desk next to me, it's charging.
- Ken Sheppardson
Question on GV Mobile - I managed to grab the app in the US before Apple pulled it. But I couldn't get it to work while I was in Vancouver, BC. Is the GV Mobile app total dead weight on my iPhone?
- Jason Miller
i mean i love my iphone 3g but i like the look of both the pre and the g2 very tempting
- Aaron Dyer
Jason: I believe GV Mobile will still work. Your issue was probably due to the US-only nature of Google Voice.
- Eric Geller
off topic question anyone know of any msi wind friendly linux distros for a browser only experience? want to move to cloud only on my netbook
- Aaron Dyer
Eric Geller - Good point. I hadn't thought of that. Thanks.
- Jason Miller
I moved to Google Apps because of the "on behalf of" issue. Apps has always been a second class citizen, never fully integrated with Reader, Voice, etc. I'm literally right this moment using imapsync to move back off Apps to plain old Gmail now that they've "fixed" the problem.
- Ken Sheppardson
There's also the sort of fundamental philosophical conflict where Gmail feels there's no legitimate reason why we'd ever have to sort by a field. Bugs me, but I live with it. Sigh.
- Ken Sheppardson
"You can set up different automated messages for different keywords, just like you said you wanted. (We're friends, so I trust you to use this power responsibly.)"
- Ken Sheppardson
"Gmail already lets you create filters based on a combination of keywords, sender, recipients, and more in your incoming messages. Turn on Canned Responses in Labs, and you can set a filter to grab one of your saved responses, create an automated reply, and hit the Send button for you."
- Ken Sheppardson
Loving this new show! WHen will it be posted to Podcast?
- Jeff Vreeland
It came across as "This Week We Say How Much We Love Google" which is not really interesting. For example Google Wave is *interesting* but barely usable (dies 1-in-3 times) - pre-alpha really; that's not going to take over the news.
- Dave Beckett
I know what he's talking about in terms of the product (Wave), but what is a TWiT Wave? A TWiT show about Wave or a Wave stream about TWiT?
- Eric Geller
Okay, that's gonna be tough because of how fleeting I imagine Wave streams to be. It seems to me that you make them when you need them. They don't have the permanence of a FF room.
- Eric Geller
Coached in how to say what they want to say, independent of what you ask them.
- Ken Sheppardson
Leo: Talk at some point about Google's 20% time (I think that's the stat) and how that inspires cool stuff.
- Eric Geller
Leo: Where does the opening theme to TWiT come from? I know the closing (Doing the TWiT) is Ashley Witt but I've always wondered about the intro.
- Eric Geller
Great show. I'm really looking forward to this becoming a regular show.
- Mike Lewis
Is the going to be podcast? I did not get to see it all. I was helping a client. And I will probably miss tonight's rebroadcast. Is it going to be a download?
- MarK
MarK: Leo said it will definitely be a podcast. And he recorded an intro with today's date, so I bet you'll get it soon.
- Eric Geller
Argh! I missed it and cannot find the link to download the podcast. I have been looking forward to this podcast since it was announced.
- David Imielski
David: It's not up yet as a podcast.
- Eric Geller
will this be up as a podcast later - ok read the rest of the comments :)
- Richard
What? There's another view? Please post.
- Ken Morley
I'm pretty sure it's in the collection "Never Eat Anything Bigger Than Your Head", published back in the early/mid 70s. I know I've got it around here somewhere...
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
I maybe over blowing this I just thought Leo Laporte would have broken into his shows to report the news. The death of Jackson is a cultural event of epic proportions.
- Mark
I'll remember where I was at this moment.
- Dave Friedel
I was just thinking that Dave. I remember where I was whern Diana died too
- Mark
I will take a COMA any day over Death. Fuck yes there may be hope!!!!!!!!!
- Mark
I hope tmz was just jumping the gun
- Jason Tullos
I had a friend who had a cardiac arrest and was revived... but died a few days later. It's worse than a heart attack.
- Dave Friedel
Depending on how long he wasn't breathing, he may be technically alive, but...
- Thomas
We will worry about bringing him back later, if he is in a coma at least he is alive
- Mark
It's interesting that CNN isn't even mentioning the TMZ article. You'd think they'd at least reference it and say "let's wait for confirmation"...
- Thomas
Well, either they wait and get it right or call it early and possibly get it wrong. They're supposed to be reputable.
- aldenoneil
CNN just called based on CBS and the times
- Jason Tullos
Certainly for people around Veronica's age including me, this is probably the biggest cultural death in our lifetimes that we are old enough to understand
- Mark
BBC are saying its a shame cos people have tickets for his show and wont be able to go. Unbelievabe
- Mark
Last time I felt like this was 12 years ago, staying up all night when Diana passed away. The space-time continuum shifts and you always remember where you were at that moment.
- Dave Friedel
CNN is saying itll be devastating for the Jackson family. You don't say?
- Andrew Leahey
I remember Diana's death very well. I was up late watching SNL with a friend of mine during a sleepover party, and the news came on and interrupted it. We didn't know if it was part of the show or not.
- Veronica
Yeah, Twitter is not holding up well right now.
- Veronica
Yeah, I was moving at the time Diana died. The TV was the first thing I hooked up...
- Thomas
I was playing Donkey Kong Country on the Super Nintendo when I heard about Diana.
- Mark
This is going to be a major world-wide event, obviously.
- Veronica
Is it just me or is the internet in general feeling sluggish?
- Andrew Leahey
I am sure tens of millions of people are on the net than would normally be
- Mark
Yep, this feels just like Diana. That was worse because there was over 6 hours of waiting to find out. But it still is shuddering to see a milestone in life go by so fast.
- Dave Friedel
Micheal Jackson is/was a world wide music icon to all! Sad day in the music industry for such.
- Bryce Campbell
I remeber when the Space Shuttle Challenger disaster, I was in 3 grade class and we was watching it live on TV, its was scary at the time
- Fee501st
Its not just a sad day for the music ind Bryce, believe me the world will mourn
- Mark
CNN anchor was talking about how everyone always expected him to return to the top some day. Totally did.
- Andrew Leahey
Millions will take to the streets in cities around the world
- Mark
I really hope this wasn't a pill overdose.
- Dave Friedel
I'm sad for his children. What a strange, sad life.
- Veronica
Mark, you're making me feel very old. :P
- Dave Friedel
I was an 80's baby, so I remember the talented time.
- Veronica
this is so sad. don't know what to say. I grew up with his songs, in the 80's.
- diego morelli
I'm 23, but totally remember him for his talent. He's still on my playlists.
- Andrew Leahey
The pop icons from the 60's-80's are slowly disappearing.
- imabonehead
He was like Reagan or video games. He was the 80's.
- Dave Friedel
For any of you too young to remember or experience it, Michael was the most amazing person to set foot on a stage. He completely changed the game. IMO the most amazing performer of all-time. This is truly devastating.
- Fleagle
adding his songs to my Napster Library as we speak
- Edgar Rodríguez
whats his best album im going to download it on Spotify
- Mark
I would have loved to see him perform. I remember waiting up all night to see the live premiere of the Scream video with Janet. Loved it.
- Veronica
I'm 19 but I think honestly that Michael Jackson is the most important star of the 20th century. Thriller was his best, in my opinion.
- Diego Espinoza V.
After they confirmed he was gone I turned off the news, I feel like them going on about his talent is rubbing our face in the fact that he's gone.
- Andrew Leahey
Some news channels are saying he was not upto 50 dates of his upcoming concert, but you can't predict a heart attack. A 40 year old man in perfect health can have a heart attack.
- Mark
Beat It was right before Thriller the video. The Thriller video was like a movie launch. Everyone sat around on the premiere night to see the longest video ever on MTV.
- Dave Friedel
Did anyone load that jeff golblum link on twitter? Wondering if it's a phishing site...
- Thomas
Showing confirmed both on MSNBC and Fox News.
- Kim Landwehr
Who is this CNN lady? First of all, she's putting words in that iReporter's (?!) mouth.
- Divya Mistry
I loaded, I'm not sure. Checking out mediafetcher.com
- Andrew Leahey
Kim - Fox news confirmed, and then immediately said that their reporters are waiting out side till UCLA Med Center confirms it
- Divya Mistry
His death brought a tragic end to a long, bizarre, sometimes farcical decline from his peak in the 1980s, when he was popular music's premier all-around performer, a uniter of black and white music who shattered the race barrier on MTV, dominated the charts and dazzled even more on stage. <------ I was just too young to experience that :(
- Mark
Dang, no kidding? So.....what else is going on?
- Tdubya
celebs dropping like flies, veronica you need to be careful for the rest of this week
- Anthony Kam
CNN had confirmation from the coroners office apparently
- Iain
Sad, sad day. :( I loved him when I was young and his music is still awesome. I always felt sorry for him too - he was clearly fucked up and it wasn't his fault.
- Amy
Man had issues, but holding the baby out the balcony... I can sleep soundly while chalking that fuck up to him.
- Anthony Kam
Like all artists, I judge him by his art, not his life
- anna sauce
A weird individual, but he encountered challenges totally unique to child stars
- anna sauce
I also think his popularity shouldn't be underestimated- friend went to a concert 6 years or so ago in Germany and was astounded by how many showed up- 10K? or something insane
- anna sauce
Macaulay Culkin's and Corey Feldman's phones are ringing off the hook.
- aldenoneil