Well, it's official. I am now an employee of Facebook :) And as promised, now that the deal has closed, I've finally gone and created a Facebook account. - http://www.facebook.com/anayang
Congrats. But do you intend to use FB only for private networking ?
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
That was fast, not even a week after Bret's announcing acceptance of "Facebook friend request" [http://blog.friendfeed.com/2009...]. Given that you must be the single non-engineer of the twelve FF personnel (as per TechCrunch report of there being 11 engineers in the company), what will be your function and duties at the Facebook Hogwarts Manor? http://images.google.com/images...
- ianf ⌘
LOLLLLLL Sorry about yer Luck Ana! ;)) I'm actually considering Suing FacePOOP fer giving me da Boot a week ago!! Ya gotta Love their Kangaroo Court!!
- Billy Warhol
were they saving the anayang name for you?
- Thomas Hawk
Is Facebook account a requirement for all Facebook employees? Is it considered "testing" when you spend paid by the company time on your own Facebook account? Or it's a "crime" only for the QA department to use their own (as alternative to testing ones) accounts?
- earlyadopter
i'd love a place where i can hang out 24/7 and just code or do work and relax while doing so!
- Justin
Don't see any mention of benefits besides space and wifi but looks like a great melting pot for building stuff.
- Jason Cronkhite
I think coworking space will see a big boom in the near future. My favorite in Seattle is Office Nomads: Very cool, creative community: http://www.officenomads.com
- Leif Hansen
I signed up a while back and encountered errors while trying to sign in. I just tried it again and still getting that same error. No Streamy for me.
- Yolanda
Hmm... commenting on FF from streamy? Where does it show up? (this is a test...)
- Grey Drane
holy crap this is what FB should have been IMHO....this is what I imgine maybe FB+FF might look like?
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
OK, not sure. It's a cool idea, but it's like a slower, less optimal interface for your various social networks. All in one place, sure, but I'm thinking I'd rather keep separate tabs open than have everything crammed into one site.
- Grey Drane
yeah I see what you mean...not sure.....definitely lacking importing of services though for more stuff.
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
from IM
I hope they've improved performance. When I first got on a couple of months ago I thought it was wicked but then it started breaking on me.
- Justin Whittaker
Signed up a while ago but didn't spend too long. I'll go back and see what the fuss is about.
- Kenton
Just tried to sign in and it crashed (twice). Doesn't look promising.
- Jill O'Neill
Let's blame Scoble (the Robert one) since he seems to be gone from FF now anyway.
- Kenton
Slow as molasses, then crashed. Streamy people reading this thread? Don't get your hopes up that the little influx of FFers are going to stick around long.
- Christopher A Carr
Streamy should be back online and working nice and fast. Whole team was out the lunch when we got a flood of new users, but things are smooth now. Sorry everyone!
- tuxboo
Sarah, brilliant post, thank you. It's hugely valuable to see a side-by-side and to have your opinions on what needs work. We'd definitely like to make FriendFeeders comfortable on Streamy. We'll be back with updates. And hey, Chris, my friend. Don't hate ;)
- Don Mosites
Which Chris? :) I'm not hating, I'm just suggesting that we need to stop making the same mistake over and over again - crowning 'winning tools' - the winning platform is the web - the tools should leverage open standards to create web-wide distributed social networks. Blogs are the right place to start - tools like streamy are great ways to aggregate the community - but not HOST it
- Chris Saad
Opera browser support please. Other than that, it looks pretty good.
- Alejandro
Been using it for months. I must admit it's the best Twitter "in the cloud" client that I've used. Far better than Seesmic Web Client, at least.
- Jordi Soler
Thanks Sarah! Was looking at Streamy earlier today. Just joined and happy to give it a try. Also want to check out AmpliFeeder. Not bailing from FriendFeed yet, but feel the need to investigate alternatives.
- Larry Hawes
This really looks like an interesting concept:)
- Rob Cairns
Joined Streamy today. Oddly, its FriendFeed feed isn't showing this thread...
- Dennis Jernberg
Oh, *there* it is. I see this thread right at the top of my Streamy FF feed now. Commenting from Streamy.
- Dennis Jernberg
I don't get the "New from People" stream. The few conversations that are happening get drowned in all these useless activity updates. I want to see what people are sharing, not what they're *doing*
- Christopher A Carr
And I keep getting signed out of Google for no apparent reason. Lots of little oddities -- lots of work to do before this is usable.
- Christopher A Carr
it would be nice if you could opt out of the 'ping every network' but still link your accounts. I haven't seen any settings for that in squirmy, I mean streamy.
- Holly Rae, FFer
For some reason it isn't letting me log in anymore. I remember when people were anxiously awaiting Streamy, and then with all the delays, it seemed like people just forgot about it :P
- Angelo Rodrigues
If the rumors come true it will be a sad day indeed... this alternative looks interesting though....thanks'
- Bill Masson
Streamy won't be replacing anything any time soon if user's can't log into the service. :o
- Kevin Whalen
no, they're not ready yet... but can they be by the time the need arises? I think it's in there.
- Jim Hearts FF
Hey all, we made some fixes to avoid the crashes you were experiencing on Streamy. Be sure to check back in again soon. Thanks for trying us out!
- Don Mosites
nice ... thanks for the update. Any news on some new features coming up in the future?
- Amani
from IM
I tried it last night. It's wonderful. But the loading speed wasn't that good. Or is it only me?
- Er-fun
i think of them more as the root directory of the web and requires the long urls. what needs to happen is a better way to connect to sites without the use of long complicated urls. hence the popularity of shortening words by leaving out vowels etc.
- Justin
WTF?? I just saw a bit of Sarah Palin's resignation speech. She said that it would be easy for her to just stay in office, but that would be the quitter's way out. So, she quit. WTF??? Argh! My brain asplode. Only a Republican could say that quitting is not quitting.
That is so incredibly stupid that I think it might possibly be brilliant. Maybe her existence is just performance art? Bravo!
- Internet's Tad
That speech is full if it. One-and-a-half years term left (of a first term) is "lame duck". Wanting to affect change in government by leaving it. Part of me wants to analyze the whole thing, but it's not worth it.
- Rob H.
from iPhone
Man - I still can't get over it. It would be quitting to stay. I'm no quitter. So I'm quitting.
- Internet's Tad
Winners never quit, quitters never win. or is that not how that goes?
- Eric @ CS Techcast
What I don't understand is how some people still think she's a viable candidate for 2012. That, to me, is the real mystery.
- pea ♥ fierce as a woozle
Maybe she'll avoid being a quitter by quitting that too. The Democrats wouldn't even have to campaign against her - just play clips from that speech.
- Internet's Tad
newspeak. up is down. black is white. quitting is persisting.
- Karoli
A whole lot of people fell for the whole War in Iraq == Peace schtick, but no one will believe quitting is winning.
- Internet's Tad
Sometimes I wonder if the Republicans somehow mistook 1984 as an instruction manual, the way someone in the Bush WH mistook Stephen Colbert as an actual conservative pundit
- Victor Ganata
from iPod
maybe she just doesn't want to deal with all the pressure. you have to step back sometimes to go forward.
- Justin
the pressure of being governor of Alaska?
- Tyler Gillies
Justin, that may be, but she's still quitting. You can NOT spin quitting into not quitting.
- Internet's Tad
While I find what you wrote to be both mind-boggling and amusing, Republicans do not have a monopoly on saying really stupid stuff.
- Alex Scoble
Totally agreed Alex. Look at Joe Biden. :)
- Internet's Tad
why did obama pick biden in the first place?
- Tyler Gillies
It's much more fun to make fun of moralists though. They place themselves above everyone else and it's much more fun when they fall. The same is true with some liberals, but not nearly as often.
- Internet's Tad
im a moralist. an objective moralist though :)
- Tyler Gillies
I'm not sure what you mean by an "objective moralist." Please define.
- Internet's Tad
Dawn, are you suggesting that non-moralists have no standards?
- Internet's Tad
tad: objective morals are more like ethics
- Tyler Gillies
I'm not a big fan of Sarah Palin, but I think the amount of hate that has been dumped on her is atrocious.
- Dawn
@Dawn - who is it that you're implying has no standards in comparison to Palin?
- Her Lindsay-ness
Tyler, that's understandable. Most everyone has morals. Moralists though attempt to impose their morals on others, sometimes via force. Many in the GOP wish to enforce their morals via government force. To be fair, so do many Democrats.
- Internet's Tad
Dawn, the word you are looking for is scorn, dismay, disbelief, disdain, etc. The hate is far hotter against Obama from the right than it could ever be against Palin from the left.
- Alex Scoble
Dawn, Sarah Palin scares the hell out of most of us. To me she represents everything that's wrong with the GOP. I was a Republican back in the early/mid 90's and one day I might like to be one again.
- Internet's Tad
im a conservative christian and sarah palin kinda scares me
- Tyler Gillies
Tyler, I think that's exactly what Sarah Palin would like. The loony fringe of the Republican party all want exactly that.
- Internet's Tad
Sarah Palin is going nowhere. I don't know why everybody is so "scared" of her. It's ridiculous.
- Dawn
Hate is hate? No, hate is what the racist assholes were spewing towards Obama (during Palin rallies no less) during the election. Palin is just a joke worthy of nothing more than ridicule. As a politician she's a walking comedy tour the likes of which we haven't seen in a while. She makes GW look presidential and that's downright hard to do.
- Alex Scoble
I'm a Republican (small goverment, civil liberties, states rights, cherry war machine, fuck the poor) and Sarah Palin scares the hell out of me.
- Matthew DeVries
someone once said. "Maybe the moral majority isn't so moral, and isn't the majority"
- Tyler Gillies
Dawn, she nearly because the second most powerful person in the country. She brought out the absolute worst part of the Republican party. That's scary.
- Internet's Tad
matthew: you have sex with poor people?
- Tyler Gillies
Alex, but she's a joke that some people (remember that "He's A-Rab" lady from McCain's rally) thought should be co-president.
- Matthew DeVries
Racists assholes? What about the sexist assholes who wore "She's a CUNT" t-shirts at her rallys. Give me a f'ing break.
- Dawn
I don't see a lot of hate being thrown her way, what I do see is a lot of people who see that she's not qualified to hold a major political office and would like her to realize this, shut up and go back to whatever she was doing before she ran for a major office.
- Alex Scoble
Dawn, are you implying there are more Democratic sexists that Republican sexists? LOL
- Internet's Tad
Dawn, you have that backwards it was the republicans wearing that at Hillary's rallys
- Matthew DeVries
I was there Dawn, she gave a speech in my parking lot.
- Matthew DeVries
Sorry, Dawn, but you are a member of the extremist party, if you want to throw extremist examples in to this argument you are in for a long night. The Republican party is way more sexist and racist than the Democratic party could ever fear of being.
- Alex Scoble
Sexism is everywhere, just like racism. If you think Democrats aren't racists or sexist, you're living la-la land.
- Dawn
That statement broke so many rules of debate and logic I think it gave me cancer
- Matthew DeVries
That's sad Alex, but I agree. I know lots of folks who used to be Republicans who can no longer stomach the party. They're currently politically homeless.
- Internet's Tad
there are rocks all over the place, therefore i must be a rock
- Tyler Gillies
Alex didn't say the Dems don't have racists or sexists - that's easy to see with the talk coming out of West Virginia during the primaries. What we're saying is that there are TONS more sexist and racist Republicans.
- Internet's Tad
It's the Democratic party that fights for abortions that mostly kill minorities. Look at the actions, not just the words
- Dawn
That's me Tad. Forced to vote for a Democrat the last 2 presidential elections and michigan governor elections
- Matthew DeVries
Extremists are everywhere too... Sexists, racists, extreme religious zealots... They are in the fringes of any political movement. Palin is one of those kind of people that attracts and unifies them toward consolidating their influence and THAT is what is scary about her.
- Her Lindsay-ness
Holy shit. Dawn just went off the deep end. Sorry - conversation over.
- Internet's Tad
Dawn, they don't fight for abortions, they fight for the right to abortions, while fighting against them needing to be used. I know, it's complicated. We'll go with the simple talking points Mr. Rove.
- Matthew DeVries
Matthew, I don't think it's even worth try to rebut Dawn's statement. That's so insane that... my brain asplode.
- Internet's Tad
i never really thought about abortion as minority control.. you might be going somewhere with that
- Tyler Gillies
There are plenty of Republican women who support the right to choose. Otherwise Roe v Wade would have been overturned when the Repubs were in power.
- Her Lindsay-ness
I don't hate Sarah Palin, I just don't agree with her ideas, her quiting on Friday doesn't give me any reason to support her.
- Kim Landwehr
Dawn's argument sounds like my grandmother's who says that the reason Social Security is going under is all the aborted babies that would have otherwise lived to put money in the system right now. It's all a conspiricy.
- Her Lindsay-ness
dang dead babies messin up my retirement money
- Tyler Gillies
"Jews aren't human, it's our right to kill them." "Slaves aren't human, it's our right to kill them." How are you abortion apologists any different? I'll tell you: you aren't. And someday the world will look back and say: What were they thinking? How could the DO that?
- Dawn
However, getting back to the point, there are people in Obama's camp who want Jennifer Granholm in Michigan to either outright quit, or take a cabinet/ambassadorship such that her lieutenant has a year of runway to make a name for himself and help his eleciton bid, to keep the state with a democrat governor. It's a vald politacl tactic.
- Matthew DeVries
Dawn, I countered you, play my points, don't just move to the next line on your script, or just admit I beat you please.
- Matthew DeVries
Dawn, focus on preventing unwanted pregnancies from happening AT ALL. Abortion problem solved.
- Her Lindsay-ness
There was some news around 10 days ago in Tampa Bay news about Sara Palin and other celebs and their ties to Scientology (i.e. Beckhams through the Cruises etc) this could potentially be why she had to back off for awhile... just speculating here...
- fatima
Wow - that would be so awesome Fatima - to find out that Sarah Palin is really a Scientologist. I don't believe it at all, and I sure hope not for the sake of her children!
- Internet's Tad
I think Dawn shows that abortion is such a divisive topic that anti-choice zealots would follow ANY candidate who was against choice no matter their other stances.
- Internet's Tad
"I don't fight for murder, I just fight for people's right to murder." Yeah, good one, Matthew.
- Dawn
while i am anti-abortion, i can see how more zealous anti-abortionists will rally under anyone waving that banner. it is kinda scary
- Tyler Gillies
exactly Dawn. A world without murder, but murder being legal > world where murder is illegal and everyone is getting murdered. Now you get it.
- Matthew DeVries
If anti-abortionists put as much time and effort into researching ways for women to completely control their reproductive cycle as they do in protesting in front of clinics violently or otherwise, then the whole abortion issue could be done away with once and for all. IF NO WOMAN GETS PREGNANT WHEN SHE DOESN'T WANT TO BE THERE WOULD BE NO ABORTIONS. Quit focusing on the symptom and punishing all the victims and fix the damn problem.
- Her Lindsay-ness
Why does her stupidity have to be a partisan issue?
- Peter Warnock
from Android
lindsay: what about rape? its hard to "stop" it, considering its a choice
- Tyler Gillies
Peter - because anti-intellectualism is a major tenant of the Rove-led republican party.
- Matthew DeVries
@tyler you can't stop rape by giving a woman control over her body but you can prevent her from having to live with the consequences of it for the rest of her life by raising a child she didn't want. The act of rape has nothing to do with preventing pregnancy.
- Her Lindsay-ness
Peter, it's not so much to me. It's more that it's funny when it's a moralist who's so stupid. Again, the GOP does not have all the stupid folks, but they do have most of the moralists.
- Internet's Tad
Lindsay: Women get pregnant, men don't. How exactly do you expect anybody to "fix" that? As for "punishing all the victims," the only ones being punished are the millions of innocent babies.
- Dawn
lindsay: that is of course if you believe raising your own child is a "consequence"
- Tyler Gillies
Tyler - have a child forced upon you during rape is certainly a consequence of someone else's actions.
- Internet's Tad
Dawn, you fix it via technologies giving women COMPLETE control of their reproductive system.
- Internet's Tad
@Dawn - if we focused politics on the medicinal ways to allow a woman to control her fertility from the onset of puberty then it would be "fixed". Moralists insist on abstinence and other ineffective ways to prevent pregnancy and don't want to provide birth control for girls or teach them how to take care of themselves in school... If every girl in the country had birth control from her...
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- Her Lindsay-ness
tad: having a child with a consenting partner is partially a consequence of someone else's action also ;)
- Tyler Gillies
How the hell did this become an argument about abortion? Where's Anthony when you need him to point out the straw man?
- Alex Scoble
@tylergillies: My wife and I face those consequences everyday. And love it! ;>)
- Paul Puri
true tyler. I don't think that going to see a doctor for an abortion should be used as a form of birth control. I'm just not sure that we should legislate that. Again, my stand is that technology should allow women complete control of their reproductive system and at that point abortion pretty much goes away in most cases.
- Internet's Tad
Alex++, this thread has completely gone off the deep end...interesting, though.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
We're having fun now that Dawn Godwin'd us.
- Internet's Tad
alex: it became an argument about abortion when people started arguing about it
- Tyler Gillies
Oh Lindsay. So near, yet so far..... Our consequence is our children. It was a joke. And by the way, she raped me first.
- Paul Puri
@Paul, I missed tyler's reply and misunderstood your comment... I deleted that comment.
- Her Lindsay-ness
i want a consequence but my wife won't stop taking the pill
- Tyler Gillies
And never mind all the real practical reasons that have nothing to do with unwanted pregnancies for which people get abortions. Real medical tragedies. The fact that the pro-life people completely ignore these situations is ridiculous and unbelievable. People are having to make these choices every day for the right reasons and having to pay for that because it's a tragic loss for them. People who lump these situations in with "irresponsible women" are truly just crass.
- Alex Scoble
lindsay: no you're not, shes only quiting so she can put more effort into her next political campaign
- Tyler Gillies
I actually had a similar thought Jack. Karl Rove is going to reward her handsomely tonight.... Anti-intellectual stupidity is such an effective martial art to master.
- Matthew DeVries
jack: technically the topic on friendfeed is determined by whatever the people in the thread are talking about. seldom does the conversation meet up within the "guides" of the original post
- Tyler Gillies
She has absolutely no credibility anymore, tyler. Why would we elect her to a higher office when she's quitting this one with 1.5 years to go??
- Her Lindsay-ness
tyler - was just referencing the old female trick of poking a hole into a condom, but in your case it won't work...
- Internet's Tad
lindsay: because "we" aren't "them" ;)
- Tyler Gillies
There are more of us than them, tyler or she would be VP right now.
- Her Lindsay-ness
She fact that Palin has senior Republican party members questioning her behavior and calling her a quitter does not bode well for her ambitions. Dean didn't do anything half this weird and look how quickly his future dimmed.
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
Hey Tyler, replace the pills with tic-tacs or Pez or something...LOL
- Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
rahsheen: the last 7 of every pack are placebo. thinking about making a "megapack"
- Tyler Gillies
Lindsey - posted this eariler in the thread but it got buried. Re: why her quitting now may be a valid political move - However, getting back to the point, there are people in Obama's camp who want Jennifer Granholm in Michigan to either outright quit, or take a cabinet/ambassadorship such that her lieutenant has a year of runway to make a name for himself and help his eleciton bid, to keep the state with a democrat governor. It's a vald politacl tactic.
- Matthew DeVries
Matthew - the opposite of that happened here in AZ where Obama took our Democratic governor away for Homeland Security and let the GOP take over the state. Of course, they're fighting themselves instead of doing anything together.
- Internet's Tad
is it bad i don't even know who Jennifer Granholm is?
- Tyler Gillies
Tyler - she's the governor you'd most like to have naughty sex with.
- Matthew DeVries
Arizona will be too the way things are going. State is shutting down and the voters are blaming the Republicans. No Democrats are even involved in this. GOP legislature fighting GOP governor.
- Internet's Tad
Interesting that this went from an argument about Sarah Palin to about abortion
- Kim Landwehr
from BuddyFeed
heh jennifer granholm looks like a cross between hilliary clinton and ellen degeneres
- Tyler Gillies
its an observation, doesn't make it true
- Tyler Gillies
I didn't read all the comments and I hope no one else said this (or maybe I do). I think I just figured it out, Sarah Palin is a left side liberal! She's pulling an RL Colbert!
- Heather
One evil Democrat trick is using actual facts in a discussion. Dawn is incorrect when she claims that abortions are killing mostly minorities. More than half of US abortions are performed on white women. It would be accurate to say that minorities get a disproportional share. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id...
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
which makes sense, because statistically speaking.... minorities are, well... the minority
- Tyler Gillies
Minorities getting abortions? Minorities can't afford no stinking abortions. That would require having jobs and stuff and everyone knows we live off of Food Stamps and TANF in subsidized gov't housing. Duh! Plus, each kid increases your benefits from those services.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
That's just recently, MiniMage. Legal abortion mills have been in place for 35 years and the vast majority of all those killed have been minorities. And that's been on purpose. Planned Parenthood, Democrats' Darling, has it's roots in racism and many PP facilities are racist to this day. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index...
- Dawn
Dawn: If that bit about PP is true, wow. I noticed the worldnetdaily article agreed that minorities still received less than half of the abortions. Still, you used the present tense in reference to Democrats, abortions and minorities, so we'd only be concerned with recent information--or wouldn't we?
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
World Net Daily tends to make up crap. Do you have a better source? (most of their sources in that article are links to themselves with no outside corroboration with one link to a broken Youtube video)
- Rob H.
So which stereotype is true? Minority women killing their offspring, or using them to capitalize on welfare? By simple logic, it can't be both. Although I realize a lot of people find logic unnecessarily constraining.
- Victor Ganata
On a serious note, I'm actually amazed. I don't usually see Republicans who will do more than pooh-pooh at racism and claim it's all in our heads (or directed at them).
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
IMO, there's a difference between opposing racism on principle and doing it just as a wedge issue to fight abortion/birth control rights.
- Andrew C
Andrew: So you think I'm only against racism as it's related to abortion? I think some of you people have a really twisted, bigoted idea of who Republicans are. I actually dated a black man in college. And there are plenty of black Republicans. There are even gay Republicans! GASP!!
- Dawn
I think the race thing is a complete red herring. The data fits better with a correlation to socioeconomic status alone. You can explain the disproportionate percentage of abortions amongst minorities by the fact that minorities are disproportionately poor.
- Victor Ganata
"Planned Parenthood's founder, Margaret Sanger, shared some views with the eugenics movement of her day, but broke with others. Abortion opponents use this legacy to try to maintain that Planned Parenthood's mission is racist and eugenicist to its core, even though its more than 850 health centers provide services to people of every race and those people voluntarily request those...
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- Maria Niles
Anyway, back to Sarah Palin. Who do you think her running mate will be in 2012? Assuming that the reason why Palin is quitting isn't the fact that she's intending to lead an armed insurrection against the federal government.
- Victor Ganata
Dawn, yes, there are black and gay Republicans, and there are genuinely anti-racist Republicans. But there is also a group which clearly only yanks out the Margaret Sanger card as an attempted wedge.
- Andrew C
Seriously, I totally find this quote ominous. "Rather, we know we can effect positive change outside government at this moment in time, on another scale, and actually make a difference for our priorities - and so we will, for Alaskans and for Americans." Given her and her husband's secessionist affiliations, and her penchant for rousing mobs to the point of violence, it just makes me wonder.
- Victor Ganata
Victor, if Palin makes a run for it in 2012, her *Republican* opponents will hammer her relentlessly for being a quitter. And as for that speech, I think she was just rambling, I doubt she was hinting at any real plans of any kind at all.
- Andrew C
Victor: "Planned Parenthood has located nearly 80 percent of its clinics nationwide in minority neighborhoods." http://www.wnd.com/index... If race is such a red herring and it's all about socioeconomics, then how do you account for the fact that PP can't seem to find white poor people?
- Dawn
Sanford says quitting is the easy way out and Palin says not-quitting is the easy way out and both claim they want to take the harder path. My head hurts.
- Maria Niles
She needed to get to washington to become president, dontcha know
- Will Higgins™
Victor: I did see their posts. Now why don't you quit dodging and answer my question. 50% of black pregnancies are aborted. How come 50% of poor white pregnancies aren't aborted if it's all about socioeconomics?
- Dawn
50% of black pregnancies are aborted? where did you get _that_statistic?
- Tyler Gillies
Dawn, if you're not going to follow the threads, what's the point of asking? The answer is already there. I'm not going to repeat myself.
- Victor Ganata
That last comment from Dawn is completely insane and I think she is purposely trolling now. I think it's in everyone's best interest not to continue arguing with her.
- Internet's Tad
To be a good bride of Rove, you can't ever answer a question you're asked. You answer only the questions you want to be asked, even if it isn't. You hold to talking points. You don't think. Rove does the thinking.
- Matthew DeVries
Jess - Thanks! What lake is that?
- Justin Korn
from IM
Dale Hollow (in Northern Tennessee). It's not as open as Tahoe, it winds through canyons. So it's hard to get an over-the-water-shot. Yours is spectacular.
- Jess
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- Justin
This is torture at 3:30 pm. And I don't usually like donuts.
- L.J. Leng
Arrgh! I wish this thread would quit showing up because it's been making me crave KrispyKreme for 2 days now!! I don't wan't to hide it either.
- Her Lindsay-ness
I'm so glad that KK is not what I crave when I crave doughnuts. :-) Er, sorry for bumping this, Lindsay...
- Lisa L. Seifert
Lindsay, are you in agreement that when it comes to doughnuts, different restaurants have different "best kinds"? With KK, it's their hot-off-the-oil-river plain glazed. With Dunkin' Donuts, it is their boston cream.
- Phil G
Greader, but Steven Hodson really likes Newsgator's FeedDemon.
- Phil G
Friendfeed. :) I've started creating groups as imaginary people and just adding feeds to those groups. It works quite well for me so far. Keeps things quite organized.
- Justin Korn
J.Phil - I thought about it, but I'm not the best of writers...I'll give it a go and you can build on it :)
- Justin Korn
Justin, the best remedy for lack of skill is practice. I can guarantee you everyone on FriendFeed who is a blogger now started out crappy, and got better as they wrote more articles and posts. There is no "how to blog real good" class.
- Phil G
J.Phil - thanks for the encouragement....stay tuned
- Justin Korn
Finally got my post up on "FriendFeed as an RSS Reader" if anyone is interested. Would love feedback as I am just getting into this thing people like to call "blogging" - http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Justin Korn
Good article Justin, keep it up! Thanks for following up on this thread!
- Phil G
FriendFeed and Google Reader. Have also started to test how Flock works as feed reader but that's still limited to just several feeds like for comments to my blogs in WordPress.com and comments to images in Flickr.
- Daniel Schildt
Am I the only one that saw that blog post about naming your character after IKEA furniture? You seriously come out with some great names. LOL. I can't find the link anymore. =P
- Louie
Well, there's a difference between speaking for God, being divinely inspired, and a joke.
- Mark Trapp
Well, If I believe in God, I prefer him as a smartass. Much more interesting than the petty, vindictive version a lot of Christians believe in.
- Her Lindsay-ness
We don't believe in a petty, vindictive God, either. That would be a silly thing to believe in.
- Mark Trapp
Lindsay, I'm sure He has a sense of humor. He'd have to have a well-developed one in order to put up with our crap, day in, day out, through the millenia.
- Raoul Pop
yeah but there is a fine line there Mark. people can say just about anything for someone when they are not close to the person (physically or emotionally)
- Justin
Justin, I think you need to factor in intent and the reasonably expected consequences of a sign like this. No reasonable person would believe that God made the billboard and is using it as a mouthpiece to speak to people stuck in traffic, and I doubt the billboard maker intended to deceive anyone with the sign. Although thinking about it some more, if this was a jab at Christianity by some prankster, it'd be improper, but the sign qua the sign can't infer intent. Need more information.
- Mark Trapp
@Mark, not saying you do, but a lot of Christians do. Anyone who believes that God would send them to be tortured in Hell for ETERNITY for even one, unrepentant sin (or, for that matter, 80 years worth of sins compared to eternity) is worshiping a pretty petty god.
- Her Lindsay-ness
Christians don't believe that Lindsay. The God of Christianity, Islam, and Judaism is all forgiving. In Christianity, there is only one unforgivable sin, and Satan's the only one who's committed it. Christians believe if you are truly sorry for your sins, God will forgive you. Unconditionally. It's the core tenet of the religion.
- Mark Trapp
"there's a difference between speaking for God, being divinely inspired, and a joke" - no difference that I have ever been able to discern
- Brian Sullivan
that makes sense. though i'm not sure i approve of these sort of things regardless of their intended effect. yeah sure people wont necessarily believe god made the billboard but someone did make this to prove a point which people are entitled to do. i guess my point is instead of using a deity to back up whatever the intent is, use some reasoning other than "cause the deity said so."
- Justin
hmmm... I think my response to Mark was deleted. I guess I'll take that as a clue my opinion isn't welcome on this discussion. That's ok.
- Her Lindsay-ness
Lindsay, Victor would be the only one capable of moderating comments, and I don't think he's around right now: it might not have reached Friendfeed due to a network hiccup or something. Everyone's opinion should be welcome, but what you're saying isn't a possible interpretation of who God is to a Christian. The religion breaks down if you assume God is vindictive and petty. If someone purporting to be a Christian tells you that, they are misinformed.
- Mark Trapp
Mark is it a sin not to be a Christian? Will I have to ask forgiveness for being a Buddhist? Heh. My religion has no punishment beyond that which one does to ones self.
- Internet's Tad
Ok, well, I'll try again... I know plenty of Christians who believe that God will send you to Hell for eternity if you have even one unrepentant sin. In my opinion any God who would torture you for eternity for anything you did in the short ~80 year timespan you have on earth is being petty and vindictive. I'm not saying all Christians feel that way, but those who do worship a dictator god who is only worshipped out of fear. I feel sorry for those people.
- Her Lindsay-ness
@Mark - I've come across many Christians who feel the way Lindsay describes.
- Yuvi
@Mark, the trick comes also in determining what's really a sin. The Bible has so many conflicting rules and gray-areas that I'm sure everyone sins even if they don't know it or they do but consider it to be inconsequential or even necessary in the long run (for "small" sins). If you aren't sorry for something you've done, and don't consider it a sin but, in God's view, it is, does that preclude you from receiving forgiveness and then sentence you to hell? Choosing a non-Christian religion is an example.
- Her Lindsay-ness
I had a conversation with a very religious Christian (non-denominational) guy I used to work with one time. He had some Bible quote on his desk that was kind of scary - something about being afraid of God. I asked him how God could be scary if he was omnibenevolent (all good). He said, well, maybe he's not all good. Then I asked why worship that? His answer was because his anger is mighty or something like that. No thanks.
- Internet's Tad
Tad, different denominations have different interpretations, but for the Church, it makes no claims on what happens to people outside the Church. We simply don't know the full will of God. You could be saved, you could not be. It only makes a claim of what's a surefire way to be saved. Lindsay, it does a disservice to the majority of Christians who are informed of the basic articles of...
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- Mark Trapp
How many Catholics are in hell right now for eating meat on Friday?
- Internet's Tad
also, just to point out... the internet is awesome! where else can you get a billboard to launch a thousand comments! (i don't mean that in a mocking sense) i really enjoy friendfeed and the conversations it provides!
- Justin
Hooray for giving religion the finger after 9 years of catholic school! And I never looked back.
- ::Kristen::
I actually agree with Mark - that's my understanding of Christianity in its generic sense. I can't imagine Jesus himself condemning anyone to any sort of torture for any reason. That's just not my experience with how most Christians I've met act.
- Internet's Tad
What's the distinction between mortal and not mortal?
- Her Lindsay-ness
@Mark, I grew up around Southern Baptists. They most definitely held the viewpoint I described. They are a significant mainstream segment of Christianity. Your viewpoint is in the minority of the Christians I have been exposed to. Not to say you're wrong, just to say, in my experience, most Christians do worship a god they fear and that seems very odd to me.
- Her Lindsay-ness
Simple actions don't damn you. Heck, God isn't even the one who damns you: you damn yourself. It's a state of mind: to know what God says, and then to flagrantly reject it. You can be confused, you can be misguided, you can just not understand what He says, or any number of things. What prevents you from being saved is to understand everything you need to and still say "No, I'm better...
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- Mark Trapp
@Mark back on after a break, I don't believe in deleting peoples comments. Haven't even blocked anyone yet. @Lindsay did you mean moral?
- Victor Ryden
I respect what you believe, but I hope that you realize you're not speaking for ALL Christians or even necessarily the majority of them. I think if God were omnibenevolent he would even give the guy who rejected him for 80 years a ticket out of hell after suffering for 80 years. Eternity is a long time. No sin is worth an eternity in hell to an omnibenevolent god, but Hell is a one-way ticket.
- Her Lindsay-ness
Mark may not be speaking for ALL Christians and that's right, not all Christians have the same knowledge about GOD.
- Alex Sauceda
Lindsay, I'm describing basic, unassailable tenets of Christianity. All Christians must accept them. In that sense, I am speaking for all Christians. If someone who purports to be a Christian tells you that they believe something contradictory to what I'm describing, they are, by definition, not Christian. Beware false prophets.
- Mark Trapp
Why do Christians always have to capitalize GOD, if he see all, pretty sure he sees your misuse of the caps key. You guys are so cute living your lives by fairy tales ::pinches cheeks ::
- sean percival
At the risk of throwing gasoline on a fire, the concept of "eternal" punishment is not exactly biblical. I only say this because I struggled with the same questions. Not all Christians believe this, but it's the kind of question that the God I believe in wants us to examine for ourselves, IMHO.
- Ha3rvey (not Akiva)
@Mark, I challenge you to go to Mississippi or any other southern US state and walk into a Baptist church and ask anyone there if they believe that God doesn't punish you for your sins in the way I have described. And if you find, as I expect, they disagree with you on the unassailable tenets, I challenge you to tell them they are not Christians.
- Her Lindsay-ness
friendfeed seems to breed conversation huh? interesting
- Ruben Llibre
can't even describe how happy I am being born and grown up in country where it was not necessary to believe and churches of any kind where kept on short chain. I find it pity there is no such country anymore :-/
- A.T.
wow, this just took me a while to read and folks got really into the whole religion debate! FF rocks doesn't it!! this is sooo cool!! I got kick out of the billboard sign and a much bigger kick out of the ensuing comments!! I believe in God and I do not believe he's petty or vindictive. That sounds more like RELIGION and the folks who peddle religion. I love God, not all those lame rules (judgments) which divide people and cause the church/religious folks to judge everybody...not good.
- Susan Beebe
Sorry mate, thats going to affect my dreamworld..when I first looked it from the distance I thought they were the same people/or the lighting on the girls dress was at odds, so was slightly unsettled by the close image to be honest.(I can't stand horror films, except the old universals/60-70s folk etc) .But in summary, me thinks that the application could be potentially really useful for other applications within photography/encryptions etc. Anyway FFFT
- Jason
Thanks to tabbrowsing, I'm saved ; ) *phew*
- LouCypher
I was planning on going to bed. I can scrap that for a while.
- Mark Wilson
I think I just had a heart attach. *falls off chair dead on floor*
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Hao rocks! "My job here is done. Sweet dreams!" I was kinda distracted, so had to watch again... My sympathies to Jason & his spilled soup.
- Mitchell Tsai
I don't like you anymore Hao - I won't post what I yelled in case anyone has kiddies looking over their shoulder
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
I've come to enjoy freindfeed becuase twiiter has been down a lot in past weeks. Now I don't miss twitter as much. I still want to use it though (grumble, grumble)
- jjprojects
I love twitter, I think they will come out of this and be the Apple of the 140 char world
- Greg Wilker
from twhirl
This isn't just a bookmark to meebo, though, this is their new "community IM" program, which turns any site that uses it into an IM-enabled one.
- Phil G
yeah kinda like the Facebook IM. That is pretty neat. I added the Digsby widget to my facebook profile so people can im me when i'm not on facebook. I wonder if they will integrate something like that even though they are a web based IM service
- Justin