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Jay Rosen
In January @pogue was bellyaching about all the Twitter hype http://pogue.blogs.nytimes.com/2009... Now he's writing a book with his followers. http://davidpogue.com/bio_pho...
The "this is hype" discourse is among the most debased forms in journalism. Somehow journalists have got it into their heads that they are opposed to hype, when it is one of the key productions of their industry. Another example of the "herd of independent minds" effect. Anyway, from hypebuster to convert in three months! - Jay Rosen
Rosenthal's finest weighs in. http://www.nytimes.com/2009... - gnarlytrombone
The Times folks regularly give themselves permission to parade their off the cuff reactions for our benefit, so it's obvious they'll hate anything that competes... - tom matrullo
MoDo's reaction is hardly off the cuff - it's bylined San Francisco. This Smothers Brothers routine required 5,812 miles roundtrip. - gnarlytrombone
MoDo had a full-time assistant to write those columns. As in 40 hours a week. - Jay Rosen
"Somehow journalists have got it into their heads that they are opposed to hype" -- well put :-) - j1m
Pogue wasn't bellyaching in that 1/09 article (if one actually reads it past the first few graphs). He mentions the massive hype, but also talks about how useful it is. Last paragraph, after describing how Twitter can be a big productivity drain, finishes by saying: "But it’s also a brilliant channel for breaking news, asking questions, and attaining one step of separation from public figures you admire. No other communications channel can match its capacity for real-time, person-to-person broadcasting." - DB
"I’ll admit that, for the longest time, I was exasperated by the Twitter hype." That is not complaining about Twitter hype? Okaaaaay, guys..... - Jay Rosen
My concern is that mass media, self included, uses Twitter in relevant situations rather than mindlessly plastering it everywhere | http://tinyurl.com/dynmv3 - jim thompson
http://twitter.com/Pogue... Pogue says. "...it's utterly not true. NEVER bellyached. Please read the actual column! http://tr.im/jo1o (Is the the dawn of Twitter slander?)...." - Jay Rosen
Sir Pogue: Why do you think I provided a link to the column? Because I wanted people to see that you were complaining about the Twitter hype before you got hip to Twitter, which you were. Now it's slander to say so? Your column says so! "Twitter.com is all the rage among geeks, although it has more hype than users at this point." Oh, and this guy slandered you back in January with the same reading I gave to it. http://tr.im/jqfA - Jay Rosen
It is possible to change one's mind - I did: http://beta.friendfeed.com/coturni... how? http://twitter.com/BoraZ... and http://twitter.com/BoraZ... and http://twitter.com/BoraZ... Gradual immersion + hearing about good uses from smart people + having to follow what my own boss is doing on Twitter + already seeing good tweets all over Friendfeed... - Bora Zivkovic
Who the fuck said it wasn't? Obviously Sir Pogue did. - Jay Rosen
I did not read the initial article as negative at all. He only got more excited over time. Just like I did. Nothing special there. - Bora Zivkovic
Did I say he wrote an negative article about Twitter that trashed Twitter? I said he complained about all the hype. And he did, He even implied that this is why he had not fully appreciated Twitter: he let the hype mislead him. - Jay Rosen
LOL ... "mikebeebe: @jayrosen_nyu vs. @pogue cat fight! 1,2,3 GO!" Right. I'm going to fight on Twitter with someone who has 190,000 followers and accuses me of slander for mentioning what he said. No thank you! - Jay Rosen
"he let the hype mislead him" Yes, one would think an experienced tech writer would know to avoid the most tiresome trope in tech writing. Imagine a court reporter writing "whoops, I guess I shouldn't have prejudged a case. Again." - gnarlytrombone
Exactly: the man is a tech reporter. He let the hype mislead him. No, it is not a crime. No, it is not unusual. Yes, it is good that he learned and recovered his sense of wonder. True, many have "come around" on Twitter after an initial WTF reaction. And no it is not "slander" to point this out. - Jay Rosen
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Can the Statusphere Save Journalism? - http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
judging by comments, Solis hit a nerve, but it's one that needs to be hit again and again - jim thompson
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