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"Well, that's true, and it was not a "promise", but let's say that Google Reader and Feedburner are products that are somehow outside of the "search" scope inside Google (more on the social front I'd say), while PubSubHubbub is a protocol which is of tremendous help for the search side :)" - Julien

"Julien from Superfeedr here :) The translation of the artcile was not perfect, but I recently met with people on charge of PubSubHubbub at Google, and I've been confirmed that PubSubHubbub goes way beyond Google Reader and Feedburner for Google... so there's hope :) But you're right, if anyone wants to support the protocol, we're more than happy to host a hub for them, or even help them set up their own." - Julien

"What strikes me is their fast withdrawal from a lot of open web protocols and initiatives. Google has always been vocal about indexing the whole web, by signing deals with Twitter and by pushing Facebook to open up the public content to GoogleBot. Now, it looks like more and more the google products and initiatives go against that... which make me wonder if this isn't a terribly dangerous game to play for Google. When the web will only be built around closed (non interroperable) silos, how will google index it and 'organize the information'? It seems to me that they may have started to cut the branch on which they sit..." - Julien

"This is a feedback loop problem. It's quite well known by acoustician as "larsen". There are algorithms to mitigate it, and I think Google should probably exit from this situation by improving the suggested search result to include such an algorithm... that would allow them to stick to their purely "algorithmic" way of filtering while avoiding obvious issues like the one you described." - Julien

"That's pretty neat!" - Julien

"Thanks for the post!" - Julien

"I was actually looking for such a solution no later than yesterday for SubToMe's registration. We wanted to reduce HTTP calls. We had to put all of the JS inline which is kind of ugly." - Julien

"Social Features Aren’t A Top Priority Man, you can't imagine how long I waited for someone else to say so... I'm so glad that we're finally beyond that "socialize everything" wave." - Julien

"I believe "301 redirect" is what we're looking for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H..." - Julien

"There exists a simple way to do it for Google. The way feedburner works is by "caching" (they call it burning) the content of an "original" feed from which they have the url. If they decide to shut down Feedburner, I hope they'll be a good enough web citizen by doing an HTTP redirect to that original URL for a long enough period (maybe 10 years?). I am sure the "search engine" part of Google hates it when url die, so I hope they won't kill a whole lot of them themselves!" - Julien

"Why not use the rel="me" links? UPDATE: I actually re-read the article and it does use rel=me :/ I got confused by the javascript..." - Julien

"We did :) http://blog.superfeedr.com/pub... But that's an old story and the use cases described there are not the ones that some of our customers currently use..." - Julien

"We have a bunch of customers who do that thru RSS/Atom feeds, by subscribing to each other..." - Julien

"I think we're then on the same page. We too would love some simplification if that means more love by devs :) Our approach is to offer a JSON schema mapping for those subscribers who want it. Hopefully, it eventually becomes popular enough that someone else uses the same, and a third... eventually that may become a defacto standard and everybody will be happy!" - Julien

"Russ, this is a long post and I agree with some of the points being made. However, I also disagree with a lot of them as well. I believe I have a pretty good experience of how the RSS ecosystem works as being the builder of http://superfeedr.com/ It is not because there are Facebook or Twitter or Ebay in the RSS excosystem that it's not an ecosystem in which businesses can succeed pretty well. Traditionnaly we only think about "winner takes all" markets on the web. I believe there is no reason for it to be different than the real world: some markets where economies of scale (and scale effects) are obvious will coexists with markets where it's not easier to grow when you're bigger (the cement industry for example is extremely atomized with the biggest player 'holding' only a fraction of a total market IIRC). Technology changes are always welcome, but I think you fail to highlight the most important characteristic of RSS/Atom: they're ubiquitous because they are schemas. JSON is..." - Julien

"If you bump into limits on YQL, check out http://superfeedr.com/ :) We also are releasing a Google Reader compatible API. https://github.com/superfeedr/..." - Julien

"I wish I was optimistic as you are.... but sometimes, even for skilled and trained judges or attorneys, the clues are considered as proofs and there has been people judged, imprisoned or killed wrongfuly. I'm not sure a non educated, upset and angry crowd will be less prone to errors." - Julien

"Great list! Thanks Russel." - Julien

"You are right, Glass may or may not be the next game changer, but I can't see how Foursquare could not be present on any kind of augmented reality effort." - Julien

"Congrats Albert! Foursquare is an amazing app which combines both offline and online in a very unique way... Can't wait to see how it can be combined with Google Glass :)" - Julien

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"I just wanted to let you know that we now include a small RSS icon in the SubToMe modal which includes a link to the original RSS feed, when applicable :) Feel free to test it out and let me know what you think!" - Julien

"I like the idea of custom feeds based on a auth header." - Julien

"That's a neat idea. Do you mind trying to submit a patch for it? Also, I *know* there is a way to open 3rd party apps as well... but I'm don't remember how to do it :/" - Julien

"From Europe, with the recent cyprus story, I can see how some people may want to balance their portfolio with different currencies. bitcoins are the only one that a government can't seize arbitrarily." - Julien

"The way I see it is that bitcoin is both decentralized and virtual. Gold is decentralized: whoever owns a piece of gold owns it, as opposed to dollars: you own the amount, against which, in theory, you could get gold if you ask the US treasure. Dollars are virtual: most of the transactions that you do with it are actually not bound to any physical item: your credit card or bank wires make the exchange virtual." - Julien

"Awesome :) We (Superfeedr) are happy to help in any way we can!" - Julien

"Also, of you're worried about duplicate content, Matt Cutts published a video indicating that they use PubSubHubbub as means to detect the freshest content: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v..." - Julien

"I'm not sure I understand? You want that single button to allow people to follow you on Twitter too?" - Julien

"I mostly agree with your "split" of features. Now, points 2 (feed normalization), points 4 (GUID extraction), point 5 (HTTPS) are actually all part of core offering of Superfeedr (http://superfeedr.com) and have been for a couple years. Up until now we offered a "push" protocol (based on the webhooks you'd like to see!) where rather than querying for data, we would push it to your application/endpoint. We're now working on making sure we're also a good 'vault' for historical feed content and data." - Julien