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Christopher Sacca loved a song on Last.fm
INXS – Never Tear Us Apart
Thursday at 10:57 pm - Link
If you are 32-36 years old and did not make out or dramatically slow dance to this song in junior high, please identify yourself immediately. I am highly suspicious. - Christopher Sacca
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huge song for me - peter
amen, peterch. amen. - Christopher Sacca
you just instantly took me back to a roadtrip i did at age 19 - we listened to that song way too much :) - don loeb
suicide blond was my wakeup song for a couple of years after i finally got a clock radio that could play a tape. and, i think my group of friends essentially required that each of us be able to recite the words to mediate. but, none of that could touch the unadulterated melodrama of never tear us apart. i actually recall deciding that one girl i dated was not worth dedicating that song to, and that i should save it for an upgrade. - Christopher Sacca
for us it was mystify - don loeb
your message took me back to 1993 (or 94) when I saw INXS in South Florida. I was @ the U of Miami and took a few exchange students from Australia to the concert. Great night! - Julio F ~ @SocialJulio
The INXS "kick" tour was my first concert ever, back in 7th grade. Briney's dad got us tickets to their show at the Budokan from his ad agency. Good times. - Crystal English
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Loic Le Meur posted a link
Seesmic on the Washington Post
Seesmic on the Washington Post
Thursday at 6:57 am - via twhirl - Link
Loic, congrats on the various Seesmic deals. You are seriously on the longest roll I have ever seen. - Rob Diana
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thanks Rob. Longest roll? Nice expression I did not know this one. - Loic Le Meur via twhirl
Seesmic has been getting fantastic coverage since it launched, well done Loic - Cains
Great job and way to go Loic, congratulations! - Svetlana Gladkova
Loic, I was just referring to Seesmic getting good reviews and partnerships for what feels like forever. - Rob Diana
thank you friends! "We try harder" :P - Loic Le Meur via twhirl
what Rob said :) - Mel (knows Arabs!) McB
It's a great site, Loic, good luck! - anna awesomesauce
In these recession times, your comments really made my day thank you. Let's hope I can also translate some of that into revenues soon. - Loic Le Meur
I saw 13 Seesmic video replies. An important topic with lots of traffic from Seesmic and WashingtonPost.com. Why only 13 Seesmic videos? More people "liked" Loic's FriendFeed comment and added a message here than the number of Seesmic replies. Or, did I not see all of the replies? - Julio F ~ @SocialJulio
Julio, people are not used to video as a conversation tool. It is growing everymonth, very regularly, but a first ever on the Washington Post, give it some time - Loic Le Meur
btw the permalink is here http://voices.washingtonpost.c... as they posted more since I shared it - Loic Le Meur
Loic, I'm glad that major news organizations are working with interactive tools. Nov. 4 will be a good day for real time community journalism. I'll add my videos to Seesmic. - Julio F ~ @SocialJulio
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Robert Scoble posted a message
“People telling me to not discuss my fears of the economy have got me fired up! Jeremy told me that saying that the economy is in a death spiral is irresponsible. My brother told me the same thing the other night. But, the truth is the truth and I'm going to report it. Asian markets down 10%:...”
Tuesday at 11:11 pm - Link
So, argue with me. Why are we NOT in a downward spiral that there is no end in sight to? - Robert Scoble
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“Guess the way to think about it is we took everything we saved the last few years and instead of putting it into things that grow and make other things (like technology, better food, etc), we put it into something we didn’t need more of: a bunch of tract homes in Antioch. And those don’t give anything back. It was all well intended and set up for about 10 years — lets give homeownership to more people — make it easier, but like most good govt intentions it backfires. Now we’ve got a blackout and a lot of spoiled food to clean out and repurchase. Let’s say the good news is regular people wll be able to afford to buy a house for real this time. No mortgage = you are a queen.” - Mona N.
via my 'smartest' friend (Stanford econ grad with an MBA from Wharton) He lives in Manhattan and is employed by one of the biggest investment and securities firms. He's also appeared a few times on MSNBC. - Mona N.
What about Cramer telling folks to get the hell out of the market? Coming from a man who pumped up the market for the past few years. - Aviv
Robert I am more with Jeremy. Down 10%. Not good to be sure. BUt a good data persons says: 10%. Ok that is steep but it is NOT 50% - the energy of the conversation, the panic stuff, that would equate to 50% from a data point of view. - Roxanne Darling via twhirl
Robert, I think the issue is that people are already afraid, you throw out more reasons for them to be fearful, and they are afraid of that. Honestly, I'm worried about what's going on but, I try to provide solidarity to the people around me. As such a big pillar of the blogging community, I think that maybe they just want you to try and be solid. I respect you for your unflinching honesty. - James Fuller via twhirl
Robert: I agree. The truth is the truth. We often don't understand the "principle of bread dough" when it comes to our own country's actions financially or otherwise. (Anyone who bakes, knows what this metaphor means) Or put another way, its like disturbing the water table: you can't dig in one area and not think someplace off site will not be affected. Re: home ownership. Everyone needs a home. The problem lies in elevating the cost of the high end so that the low end becomes increasingly.... - Melanie Reed
Crammer didn't tell people to get out of the market. He said you should have a cash reserve for 5 years to plan for the worst. He said definitaly not to pull out your 401k if you are more than 5 years from retirerment - Robert Hafer
Aviv: Cramer was right, based on this week's performance in the markets so far. - Robert Scoble
talking about fear - yours, others is not the same thing as saying we're in a death spiral. being positive about the future does not preclude talking about your fears. i see it like this. things are bad. they're gonna be bad for a while. not a lot of this is within our control, but some is. i am focused on identifying that which i can control and dealing with it. i am also working to keep from allowing my fear to gain too much control over my actions. - MikeAmundsen
Robert: of course he was, but calling doomsday when it's, well, actually doomsday, is not really all that difficult. Some smart folks have been predicting this for many months (even years) now, but as you can imagine they weren't the most popular ones at dinner parties. People were too afraid to think about what's going to happen. - Aviv
Mike: so far my only actions has been to put off some major home repairs that aren't totally necessary in order to have more cash on hand. Problem is, one little action like that repeated by everyone causes plumbers to get laid off. And the cycle continues. Roxanne: the stocks I track have lost about 30% of their value so far, or more. Nvidia, for instance, used to be at 40. Now it's about 8. That's not just "10%" and I don't see any resistance to it going down more. - Robert Scoble
Robert: Do people not realize that with outstanding debt, what we robbed from Social Security & Medicare, the US is in the tank for $53Trillion? This will be a wake up for many... - Mark VandenBerg
unattainable for larger and larger groups of people who miss even that entry. The more luxuries we demand in our society the more we take our eyes off what we really need. Why should we begrudge making it possible for everyone to afford a home if it means we do without some things that frankly we don't really need? - Melanie Reed
Robert: i hear ya. right now some of your actions might cause some pain for others. that sucks. i'm sure you only do this cuz you need to. not everyone will be in the same spot. some will be able to do things that help others in important ways - even it that it not monetary. and i think that's important ot keep in mind. the 'solution' is not tied only to money. i found some changes i can make to improve our family's lifestyle even while we adjust where/how we spend.i see others doing similar things, too. - MikeAmundsen
I think it's more of a call for you to report on how people are trying to correct the economy instead of just saying that it's going under. Shed a little hope and optimism on the situation instead of more fear. - xero
xero: the problem is that most everyone I talk to is still in the middle of fear. It's not known how deep or destructive this crisis will be. It's clear it's one hell of a storm coming though. I said it's like having a Cat 5 hurricane coming directly toward you and the best you can do is hope it doesn't swamp the levies near your house. - Robert Scoble
My portfolio is down avg 37% and one of my stocks down 82% ... I sold some of my tech stocks two weeks ago; glad I did. Looking at BIDU and GOOG now, might get some tomorrow. They will go up again. Companies need the leads they get from search engines. - Julio F ~ @SocialJulio
To add, have you evaluated your investment strategies? (long term, short term, etc.) And are you sure the recent events will impact you in the long term? Bigger picture, you guys. Look at the bigger picture... - Mona N.
@Mona: +1 - MikeAmundsen
Julio: I would dollar cost average back into the market. I'm still seeing a LOT of downward pressure on stocks. We haven't yet faced the true bottoms of our fears. Plus, if financial results come in at the end of the quarter and they are bad, GOOG could go down even more. - Robert Scoble
Mona: the market probably won't come back up a lot for at least two quarters. First we need to really get to the bottom of the market (we ain't there yet). Then we need two quarters of better than expected results to really see a good move upward. Maybe even one, if we push this sucker down enough. But I'm hearing of lots of layoffs coming through. Those will be tougher for people to recover from. - Robert Scoble
Really, you have to start with yourself. In your own mind, try to see clearly into the future instead of buying into fear, uncertainty and doubt. When you get that confidence, take to your blog and help people understand what they can do. This is the approach I'm taking right now, including a post today which you can find if you want to read it. not to be cliché, but it starts with you first, then everyone else... - Aaron Brazell
Aaron: good advice, but that requires a bit of self delusion. I'm not quite there yet. :-) - Robert Scoble
LOL - some would argue that you've been there since your Microsoft days! ;-) - Aaron Brazell
I went 100% into cash Apr 2007 because I didn't want the risk of being in the market given an unpredictable housing bubble (Also left the market in Feb 2000 except for $20,000 which did terribly). Many friends in the Bay Area sold their houses 2-3 yrs ago & started renting. I've been watching the market to see if I want to cost-average in... S&P is down 36% (996, high 1556 in July 2007). - Mitchell Tsai
Robert: And that's only four quarters. Are you planning to retire any time soon? I sure as hell hope not. And as a leader in the tech industry, people are looking at you to tell them: "Look, everything is crap right now, I'm not sugar coating anything. Things ARE going to get tough. But this what you can do and how you can do it. There *is* hope." You have such a large voice and a huge presence. Don't use it to instill fear, but use it to tell people be realistic but optimistic, and we will pull through. - Mona N.
...unless you truly think we're not. - Mona N.
I'm with Mona on that. - Aaron Brazell
Aaron: leaving Microsoft was the best thing I could have done for me and my family. Since then I've gotten to meet Queens and Presidential Candidates, not to mention the world's smartest geeks. All stuff I would never have gotten to do if I had stayed at Microsoft. And, if I get laid off, I can always go back! - Robert Scoble
My Microsoft joke was a joke. :-) - Aaron Brazell
Yeah, I figured. But it deserved a straight answer. :-) - Robert Scoble
International markets are simply responding to what happens on Wall St. Forget the Nikkei, it's an outlier, the other markets reflect more like 5%, in line with the results from the US overnight (here). Right now, the US moves global markets, not the other way around. - Warren
i wonder if someone will give me a loan so i can invest in the market right now... - George Lee via twhirl
Robert, I'm not going to argue with you on the facts. Right now, it's an emotional issue with you and everyone else. My one observation is that you seem much more pessimistic than most of the people I work with, and I work for Yahoo! - Clen Gampbell
I promised myself I would stay out of this but I have to at least say this: Robert - who is to say the "truth" you are "reporting" is the right "truth"? Surely you don't see yourself as a economy expert able to say what is and what isn't the "truth". Honestly I wish you'd stop talking about the economy and fear and get back to talking about those "world's smartest geeks" and companies and what not that you report on. People look to you to talk about all the cool tech stuff happening not for you to continue to spread FUD about the economy. Seriously - you can make a difference here. Either you keep spreading fear or you start talking about cool shit to help people take their minds off that fear. - Brandon LeBlanc via twhirl
Here's a reason for hope. There is still liquidity in some sectors. Monster just completed it's acquisition of ChinaHR for $174M - http://online.wsj.com/article/... - Aaron Brazell
Brandon: that's an interesting point. But if my truth is not the right truth, put out an alternate view of what you view as truth. Don't tell me to shut up. And I refuse to be typecast into a little box of only doing PR for startups. If that's what you think I'm all about you are definitely wrong. By the way, if you want some good news you should read this: http://www.avc.com/a_vc/2008/1... from Fred Wilson, VC. - Robert Scoble
There is more to the economy than people's stock portfolio. Mine is down on average 18%. I don't like it but really, the hyberbole here is not in synchrony with the math. The markets are more driven by psychology than math. We can manage our psychology, if we want. - Roxanne Darling via twhirl
Better yet - http://www.rgemonitor.com/ - Aviv
I love how we can have "conversations" thanks to FriedFeed. If this was a topic on a blog, I would read it, but not participate... not sure why... - Julio F ~ @SocialJulio
it is scary down in So Cal too, but somewhat depends where you are and who's talking - Barbara Duck via twhirl
Robert, with your awesome contacts and press pass, I would like to see you post some stuff as to what we as common tech folk should do, and when. Something helpful with much information that the geek factor can use to in protecting ourselves. What to plan for? What companies are doing in tech? Does Cisco see a down turn, if not now when? What should we look for in the companies we work for as signs of coming cuts or something. Just keep a close eye on things for us. - Bored
The reason why I think it's irresponsible to fuel fear is because at this point most of the downward pressure is being caused by fear. Leadership is about finding the opportunities right now and pointing them out... - Joi Ito via twhirl
Robert: That's the kind of confidence this market needs. We need more Fred Wilsons. - Aaron Brazell
As I understand it, Robert is saying (and please correct me if I'm wrong) that we are possibly in deeper trouble than we realize. Now I agree with everyone that we should have hope and look forward to a recovery but I believe Robert is kinda calling for a deep and frank examination of the fundamental issues underlining this in an attempt to ensure this doesn't happen again. Glazing over the eyeballs and only looking forward won't expose the weakness in the system, a system we all have responsibility for. - John Worthington
John, I think most of us in this conversation are not suggesting ignoring the problem and hoping it goes away. I think most sober people would agree that that is precisely the attitude that got us here in the first place. I also don't think that people calling for Robert to step up as a leader are suggesting he pretend nothing is wrong. Tho I disagree with his politics, Giuliani instilled a much higher confidence on 9/11 than Bush did. Simply because he was a leader when people needed a leader. :) - Aaron Brazell
John: I certainly am looking for more pushback than I'm getting. That lack of serious pushback (and pushback does NOT mean telling me to "shut up", but providing evidence that I'm wrong) is really freaking me out even more. The fact that I have to go and find my own "anti" evidence is telling me that we aren't really having a good conversation yet about what's going on. That too tells me that there's more downside because if FF'ers aren't able to articulate where the economy is going I have little hope. - Robert Scoble
Robert, I wouldn't get too uptight about Friendfeeders not being able to articulate complexities about the economy. Certainly, Fred is an exception. He's a VC used to looking at big numbers. I think most of us are still just digesting it all and we don't really know what to think. Like I mentioned earlier, my gut says we're near the bottom. Don't ask me to explain that though as I don't know if I can. - Aaron Brazell
Robert, my point wasn't you to go off an do PR for startups. My point was you have the power to influence folks here in such a way it can help ease fears. I don't think you're all about PR for startups. Why I like reading your stuff is because you point out really neat stuff YOU think is cool. You thought some of what Seagate is doing with storage was cool and you talked about that. BTW I never told you to shut up. Would never do that. I simply asked you to focus on something else. I'm just adding my thoughts here is all. And regarding what "truth" is the real "truth" - I don't have enough information or knowledge to state what I might think the "truth" really is. I was just posing the question to you really. - Brandon LeBlanc via twhirl
I think it's worse than most people can even understand. I thought the downside exposure was the housing bubble burst, until I learned about the credit default swap (CDS) market. It is a huge, never regulated ponzi scheme built on top of the mortgage market that dwarfs the mortgage problem by 10x. The CDS market has collapsed and frozen the commercial credit market. This American Life has an incredible podcast about this. Links and a summary - The Crash of 2008 Explained http://ta.gg/1h8 - Alex Nesbitt
Aaron: I don't think we're at bottom. I think it might solidify at 9,000 for a little while, until financial results start coming in. Then I wouldn't be shocked to find us at 8,000 or below. Once we hit that bottom then I think we can start talking about rebuilding the economy. But that's just my opinion and, you know what they say about opinions! :-) - Robert Scoble
Robert: if you're looking for folks to tell you it's not gonna get any worse i suspect you're out of luck. if you're looking for some predictions about wher the bottom is, i don't think it's pretty early for that. i, personally, think we'll see resistance@ 9000. i can't get my head around the int'l economies, tho. Pakistan and Iceland are teetering this morning and Europe is just starting to deal. - MikeAmundsen
Well, things need to get cheap again before people can buy again. I'm talking stocks obviously. With little to no credit movement, it's going to be hard for investors to move expensive stocks so that correction will continue to happen. I think what you will likely see is a comfort level set in with the downward trend. It's OMGWTFBBQ when it sets in, cuz we're not used to it. A few weeks of big losses almost makes it normal and confidence will come back, bargain buyers will emerge. - Aaron Brazell
Robert, you have a great deal of influence - why spread fear when you can help ease people's fears instead? - Brandon LeBlanc via twhirl
That's why I think we are nearing bottom. - Aaron Brazell
Well, here's something to think about Robert: of all the banking crises around the world from 1970 through to today, the average amount injected by governments to bail out their banks has been something like 6% of GDP. Your bailout is, (perhaps not) coincidentally, 6% of your GDP. So either you've got it really bad, and 6% isn't enough, or the bailout will work once its effects flow through. - Warren
it is scary down in So Cal too, but somewhat depends where you are and who's talking - Barbara Duck via twhirl
Brandon: simple: I'm not a propogandist. The day I become one is the day that I lose all that influence you ascribe to me. And, finally, we all have equal voices here on FriendFeed. If you see that I'm wrong, put out an alternate theory! - Robert Scoble
Sorry about the duplicate post, - Barbara Duck via twhirl
You don't have to be at rock-bottom to cost-average in...just as you don't have to sell at the tops. Or mimic some institutions and slide in-out positions partially (e.g. 25-50-75% at a time). You don't make the maximum gains, but you can be happy about "hey. I pulled 25% out, and bought back in x% cheaper in one month". Gives some happy news in a down market. I started investing just after the 1987 crash (86 college grad), so I grew up on down-markets. They're opportunities! - Mitchell Tsai
Scoobie, you were moaning that McCain was going to win 2 weeks ago - and you knew more about that than you do about the economy. Just do your job we subscribed to you for and shut up about all your amateur feelings. - Morgan Warstler
Mitchell, you should write a nice confidence-building post, some how-tos, etc and relentlessly spam twitter and friendfeed with stuff that will help us all get our wits back. :) In the meantime, I'm going to bed because it's 3:20am and that doesn't instill confidence in my tomorrow :) - Aaron Brazell
Waht blows me away is all the money going towards R and D, millions, but someone has to be able to afford the end result product or service somewhere down the line - Barbara Duck via twhirl
We're not in an endless downward spiral because eventually it'll get to zero and stop. Okay, seriously, there are still real assets out there. What's happening is the leverage applied to those assets is going away. We should not get too far below 1:1 or else... I'll buy it up. - Morton Fox
Aaron. Stop-losses are a classic exit technique. You can also use multiple stop-losses (e.g. 1/3 sell at -15%, -25%, and -35%). That set doesn't help you now that the market is down 36%, but consider a new set of stop losses at -36%, -40%, and -45%. If the market tanks & goes down 60%, you'll be patting yourself on the back. If the market goes up tomorrow after selling 1/3 at 36%, you can be sad about taking a little loss, and happy that the other 2/3 has recovered. Find happiness either way. - Mitchell Tsai
If you are down 36%, you need a 56% gain to recover. But if you are down 50%, you need a 100% gain to recover. That 14% difference is crucial. Difficult lesson of stocks - "Sell your losers, Hold your winners". I didn't think the potential gain in 2007 (given China's boom and the sky-high stocks) was worth the possible losses from a crazy housing bubble. Yeah, I've only made a lousy 4% in 2007 and 2008. I think in 1991 I made -1%, and was happy I beat the -4% S&P. - Mitchell Tsai
I actually have to agree with you Robert. - Mathew Ballard
Well this whole conversation, after sleeping on it, is changing my form. http://technosailor.com/2008/1... - Aaron Brazell
.. and the tsunami has not hit europe. yet. i'm simply tryin' to take cover, and abandon all investments. then, we'll see. - Marco Scano
I think fear is good, because we've been on such a high for the last few years. "Irrational exuberance" in the housing market is as much of a problem as it was in the tech stock. Getting back to the fundamental with a balance of fear and greed is not neccessary a bad thing. - Eric Lau
My thoughts here: http://www.jeremytoeman.com/wh... - Jeremy Toeman
They have a point because fear feeds on itself. We are seeing politicians play on our fears right now, trying to use fear to their advantage. But fear mostly comes from the unknown. We should discuss our fears. Understand them and then realize that the worst case scenarios aren't that bad. - ChiliMac
FriendFeed should add a time stamp at the end of each message ... Robert, I did not buy GOOG ... saved a few dollars; Thanks! - Julio F ~ @SocialJulio
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Nine Inch Nails Head Like a Hole video http://tinyurl.com/NINhead - Julio F ~ @SocialJulio
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Pollo Riko in Hialeah has the best Colombian Ajiaco
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So you're back home? - Ontario Emperor via fftogo
Yes, got in a few hours ago. - Julio F ~ @SocialJulio
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4428 miles to Buenos Aires
4428 miles to Buenos Aires
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have fun! visita palermo hollywood, buena comida, buen ambiente, a comer! - matiasjajaja
txs for the tip! - Julio F ~ @SocialJulio
let me know how the confarence went - matiasjajaja
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I REALLY wish we had these in Houston
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We don't have Trader Joe's in South Florida either. - Julio F ~ @SocialJulio
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SMX Buenos Aires 2008
SMX Buenos Aires 2008
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My SMX Buenos Aires 2008 photos will go here: http://tinyurl.com/smxba08 - Julio F ~ @SocialJulio
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Robert Scoble added an event on Upcoming
Oct 1, 2008: Search Marketing Expo - SMX Buenos Aires at Hilton, Buenos Aires
September 23 at 1:50 am - Link
Are you coming to Argentina Robert? - Cesar Sanchez
Cesar, I'll be there! #SMXBA08 - Julio F ~ @SocialJulio
Cesar: nope, I just keep a worldwide calendar on Upcoming.org. If you look at Upcoming you'll see I marked this one "watched" not "attending." - Robert Scoble
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Robert Scoble posted a message
“Only one person noticed I didn't have Leo Laporte on my list? Hmmm. I wonder who else I'm missing? (I found some good people yesterday, please keep them coming!) How do we get more developers, nerds, techies, and geeks onto FriendFeed? I guess FriendFeed should import http://stackoverflow.com/”
September 27 at 10:11 am - Link
Good idea...that would be a great service to add to FF - Susan Beebe
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where is jason calacanis? - franzstehrn
franzstehrn, busy with blogging - AJ Batac ♘
Graz: Jason doesn't blog anymore. :-) - Robert Scoble
Oh, but he can tweet up a storm. Hence my unsubscription =/ - Stupid Blogger (aka Tina)
Robert, he just did (http://calacanis.com/2008/08/1...). Unless that's not a blog. - AJ Batac ♘
but it's a social media list, so Jason should be on it - franzstehrn
Scoble: I think FF started out with a bigger developer market when some of the developers in communities I'm involved with joined and brought me along, but every item in my feed now is about "Social Media" and that gets extremely nauseating after a while. - Eric Florenzano
me - Marc Canter
"get more developers, nerds, techies, and geeks" - do we really need ANY more. Sometimes, the most insightful observations come from non-techies - i.e. USERS with no technical knowledge. - Paul Fabretti
Much improved :) The inherent thing about and list is that someone will always feel slighted or left off. (Kinda like award shows). They'll usually be on the next one if they keep delivering. The list still needs a few more (I'm thinking!) but does represent a decent cross section of the 'new and old' (that's what's important) .. . and yes, I would have said that whether or not Robert added me :) We need a solid room list! - Charlie Anzman
Robert, I love these lists, helps me discover other voices to add. - Nice Fish Films
Please! Aggregate the best people and then I only have to read YOUR stuff. What a timesaver. You read FF so I don't have to:-) - Francine Hardaway
Thank you for pointing that out Paul. The way Scoble describes it, those of us who don't offer tech content don't deserve to be here. Or we have no value in this arena. Rather insulting and egotistical. - JMakesAwesomeSauce
I don't think that's his point at all, JMS...I think he's trying to get the tech people to switch from Twitter to here. - Alex "Chameleon" Scoble
There's another post out there that basically says that Alex. But who cares? You're my favorite Scoble anyway. - JMakesAwesomeSauce
Thanks :) - Alex "Chameleon" Scoble
And it may not be meant that way, but sometimes he does come across like that. - JMakesAwesomeSauce
JMS: if you read it that way you should block me and be done with it. - Robert Scoble
Robert, how can you NOT have Leo on your list. He was one the first I added. Leo rocks. :) - Molly, the Muse
Then I'd miss out on the shower pictures! :-D It was based on this comment "I want more techie behavior here on FriendFeed. This is my way of rewarding the people who bring me high quality bits." Just saying. But you do bring great content and I learn from you, so I listen and read. - JMakesAwesomeSauce
Hey Robert is it because you are still pissed at me since the 70 entrepreneurs suck demo thing? - Loic Le Meur via twhirl
Hey, Tina (aka Stupid Blogger) made the list. Congrats to the girl from SC! - ChangeForge | Ken Stewart
WHAT? Oh you've got to be kidding me, I'm about as noisy, meme-y and cat ridden as they come... - Stupid Blogger (aka Tina)
Loic: no, it's cause you link to Loren too often and only when he's talking about you. Actually, that's not it. I think it's because you haven't been putting any signal into the system, just noise. There's one thing about this list: I'm trying to only add people who have some signal to it. But, I'll probably put you on the list anyway cause you're a cool CEO and a friend. :-) - Robert Scoble
Putting someone on the list because they are a friend kind of waters it down a bit, don't you think? If that's all it takes, then I should be on the list cuz I'm your brother. - Alex "Chameleon" Scoble
Tina: you are noisy, but you put into the system something about neuroscience. That alone qualifies you as a geek FriendFeeder. - Robert Scoble
Robert, I was surprised at how active she was when I was poking around. Lots of quality insights on everything from politics to tech, from desktop meme to cigars... and I just like the fact that someone is representin' from good ole' SC ;-P Good catch on that one dude! - ChangeForge | Ken Stewart
Hey Robert, define signal versus noise? I feel very offended by that statement, but you are also still a friend and a cool blogger, you would be in my personal list, I don't want to beg to be in yours it is your call. Thanks for calling me a cool CEO and friend, noisy though :_) - Loic Le Meur via twhirl
Ken, I have knowledge ADD. See my post today regarding the concept of experts... - Stupid Blogger (aka Tina)
thanks for adding me Robert, I would still love to understand why you are defining my content as noise! - Loic Le Meur via twhirl
what about Lawrence Lessig - his interest and focus is on law and technology - but there is very relevant content on his blog and little noise - blog is here - http://tinyurl.com/6aefz - SnakeDoc
SnakeDoc: is Lessig on FriendFeed? @loic: I just looked at your latest page and it doesn't have the "signal" that most of the other people on the list have. I added you anyway. Alex: you like too much, I read you anyway, but you are in a different list altogether. :-) - Robert Scoble
Tina, no doubt I share this as well. However, the question you must always answer for yourself is whether you choose to apply the knowledge you gain for the betterment of all. Applied knowledge = Wisdom. - ChangeForge | Ken Stewart
Robert this is no definition of signal. I will not leave you alone until I have a definition of what you call signal, but thanks for adding me. - Loic Le Meur via twhirl
Hi Robert, I gave a FriendFeed demo to my team last week and will talk about it next week during my SMX keynote in Argentina. - Julio F ~ @SocialJulio
Loic: signal=good shit that I define. :-) - Robert Scoble
Julio: if you only tweet, that's not enough signal for me. :-) - Robert Scoble
Robert, are you tipsy again? =D - Stupid Blogger (aka Tina)
Tina: not yet, but that's a great idea for a Saturday night! :-) (Parents are coming over for a little shindig). - Robert Scoble
Robert, thanks that is really clear! - Loic Le Meur via twhirl
will think about Scoble's good shit :) - Loic Le Meur via twhirl
Not a request, just an FYI in case we see a lift from users in Latin America / messages in Spanish. I remember how Orkut & SecondLife users were upset with messages in different languages. Waiting to see FriendFeed's reaction. - Julio F ~ @SocialJulio
Re Women tech geeks / tech bloggers - Linda Stone ( dont think she is on FF ) and Orli Yakuel ( on FF ) - SnakeDoc
Re: Lists of Women tech geeks / tech bloggers - not sure if all qualify on the signal / noise level or on any other params - but at least some folks compiled these lists "with care" ( Playboy poll, the BlogHer conference, RWW... ) - Svetlana compiled an FF list - http://tinyurl.com/5xbsp4 - SnakeDoc
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“The most "techie" FriendFeeders: http://scobleizer.com/2008/09/... -- got anyone else who deserves to be on this list? Post their FriendFeed URLs here and I'll consider them. Every one here has been hand picked by me and me alone.”
September 26 at 2:00 pm - Link
OK, I'll lead the "least techie" list if you make one ;-) - Bora Zivkovic
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Bora: see my brother for that list. He likes cat photos. :-) - Robert Scoble
:( i'm so sad...ok, disappointed rather. I run techineurope & the flippin' Apps room! :) - Zee from WeDoCreative
Boy I've come a long from being an ex-banker if I make your list Robert. Thanks for the inclusion. - Hutch Carpenter
I'm sure it's a lovely list for those who wish to focus on tech. With that said, I opt to not check it as I'm certain I'm not on it, and I see more tech in FF than I know what to do with already: Robert's Likes take care of that =) - Stupid Blogger (aka Tina)
I don't make the list? Aww. I think I am at least as technical (on my blog as well as FF) as a lot of the folks on your list. - Phil Glockner
I talk about tech that all of you guys are afraid to touch - chiefly an understanding of MS server products and the destruction of the net through the use of DPI (limiting bandwidth or even access to specific sites/applications across the net) and the abuse of DPI (phorm and their ad peddling scum).. do I qualify? - alphaxion
It's funny since I joined FF I've found that there's so much more to talk about than tech! You might not know it from what I post on here but I am a super tech-head geek. - Lindsay Donaghe
How in the hell does one even become 'techie' on FriendFeed without just aggravating the echo chamber? When I first came on here, I wanted to post techy stuff. Even got myself a blog on Profy before Profy became Profy but I found myself always nine steps behind everyone else. Seemed like a dead-end rat race to me so I went with just being adorably obnoxious instead. - Akiva Moskovitz
@akiva niching is your friend.. I seem to be the only one on here that can argue about active directory and the challenges to the core of power for MS that openLDAP and exchange-a-like apps such as zimbra pose instead of looking at a browser and declairing MS dead. - alphaxion
@alphaxion, I doubt you're the only one that _could_ but you're one of the few that really _wants_ to get into that kind of religious war. - Lindsay Donaghe
I am a "techie" but like others, I dont bother to post much "techie" around here because of the amount of tech. Not sure this list is even a worthwhile venture because ultimately what value will it provide? - Scott Jarkoff
Good on ya, alphaxion! - Akiva Moskovitz
thx for including me - sean percival
Keep watching. This list is updating in real time. Zee, you're now on my list. Anyone who links to Leo Laporte is cool enough. :-) - Robert Scoble
I would suggest adding Andrew Brust - RAPatton
Who has the THX home theater? Which brother was a dope and bought the PS3 just to have a BluRay player? And a techie who doesn't game? Boooring! - Alex "Chameleon" Scoble
Do podcasters get a mention? Feed Radio Room! - Eric @ CS Techcast
Zee should definitely be on the list... - Brad Brooks
I'm a techie as well, but I post the tech stuff I do and care about inside of rooms which I admin. http://friendfeed.com/rooms/wp... http://friendfeed.com/rooms/si... http://friendfeed.com/rooms/su... - Alan Le
You the man Robert. :) - Zee from WeDoCreative
I don't see it as a religious war.. especially since I'm OS agnostic. I grew up with apples, acorns and amigas, I was introduced to win3.11 in the early 90's and have supported windows server products from NT to 2008. I play around with linux and keep my eyes open. If someone genuinely does something good I'll agree, but I also refuse to fall for the "it's cool to bash MS just cause" camp and will acknowledge when they have done something right. - alphaxion
Robert, I'm so supposed to be on this list. But before me, Zee for sure. - Aaron Krug
I'm a techie by trade but social media has really fired up my interest in soft skills instead. I'm also a new father and low on cash so you won't see me ogling gadgets like I used to. I admire your drive to categorize everyone on FF, Robert. Hopefully you'll get some help from FF soon and won't have to compile all of this outside of the system. - Daniel J. Pritchett
You are now working for linking the names on list, I am one of them; and really thanks for your valuable time! Hope to meet you one day! - Erhan "peanut" Erdogan