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Kol Tregaskes
No Matter How Hard You Try, It Is Impossible To Fax A Cat #shareit
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LOL! - Kol Tregaskes
That poor cat looks so confused. - Georgie Bestie
but it's so warm on top of the scanner! - DJF
Time for a cat scan! - Jemm
Iz I the right way up for printing? - Vicky
This is clearly not my cat. If this was my cat he's have one arm shoved down into the printer trying to tear up all the internal whirling bits with his bare claws. - Soup in a TARDIS
LOL, Soup! - Kol Tregaskes
that is one adorable kitten! - Anna Lynn M.
Too Funny! Reminds me of the San Mateo Cat Shelter where one of the cats loves to sleep on top of the laster printer where the paper comes out... - Greg Lato
Kitty!!!! - Janice
keep trying! - Morgan
FEED ME A CAT - tehKenny
Kol, it is NOT impossible. And that's all I'm saying. - Steven Perez
Push harder - Josh Haley
LOL@Jemm - AJ Batac :)
آخی - یک بابک
Hehe, Steven. I won't ask. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
Gosh, just noticed this post has nearly 150 likes! :-D - Kol Tregaskes
1 closer....hilarious! - Jeffrey Marsh
There we go 150 likes. :-D - Kol Tregaskes
I'm in ur faxx masheen -- sendin de faxxez.... - Stephanie Segel
thanks, i needed a laugh - chaz2b
FAXCAT IS NOT AMUSED - Karl Knechtel
iz dat some copycat? - bora "head" basman
LOL, now nearly 200 likes! :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Thats no fax machine, thats my new patented kitty juicer! - Threepwood
Just one more like... please. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
it's over two huuunddreeeed - bora "head" basman
MOAR! - Pat Hawks
I need 9 copies please ! - Faraz Mullick
A cute cat :) - Mohammad Abdurraafay
Haha, Faráz. - Kol Tregaskes
Next target, 250 likes. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
Friendfeed loev faxcat :o - Karl Knechtel
Pussy by fax. What will they think of next? - Mattb4rd
X)) - Neya
OMGosh, next up is the 300 likes mark. Anyone care to join in? ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
Honestly, i'm not generally a fan of the Cat memes... But that is classic. - Alistair (alpinefolk)
You know this is the 7th most liked entry on FriendFeed ever: http://beta.friendfeed.com/search... !!! - Kol Tregaskes
Kol, this thread is pure genius. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
But only almost 50 comments.. :) - Simon Wicks
Simon, there's not much to comment regarding the picture :) But meta-comments are more than appropriate! - Ivan Zuzak
Simon, yeah we need 1500+ comments now, who wants to start? ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
there we go then for the 1500+!! - Jaap Willem
1600+ to beat the FFundercats live chat thread. I think with this real time now on all threads we're going to see some truly epic comment numbers. - Simon Wicks
Ivan, no the picture speaks for itself. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
OK, now it's the 4th: http://beta.friendfeed.com/search... - it's gonna take a huge effort to break the record of 452+ likes here: http://beta.friendfeed.com/imified... - Kol Tregaskes
OK, now this is the 3rd most liked entry: http://beta.friendfeed.com/search... :-D Crazy! - Kol Tregaskes
Too bad I am fresh out of likes of I would do it again. - Jason (not an Argonaut)
I'm using this photo in the latest chapter of can haz murder - anna sauce
Hehe, Anna. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
One more for 350 likes, LOL. This is mental! :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Come on, 350 cats for a cat getting crushed? You guys are mean. :-P - Richard A.
I'd like again if I could :-) - Dobromir Hadzhiev
bump - Simon Wicks
Richard, LOL! - Kol Tregaskes
Awesomely funny! - Martha
Next target: 400 likes? ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
theres one more for you Kol - Toby Graham
Toby, you're very kind. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Cute *_* - Sybelle
Hehe. - Kol Tregaskes
Just 6 more likes for the 400 then I'll leave you alone. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
can you spare a cat 6 likes? - Jason (not an Argonaut)
sweet - Eric Hofmann
Haha, Jason, wow 406 likes, madness! :-D - Kol Tregaskes
Madness? THIS. IS. FAX CAT. - Mike Nayyar
Well 452 likes is the record, hmm I think that is pushing it. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
Awesome. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
this is underfaksink at its worzt - pb:
Petr, I have no idea what you mean, but thank you. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
@Kol .. :] that, partially, might have been the purpose.... I don't know it exactly either. :] .. was I reflecting on a cat under the fax, and that it is hard to fax that way ... /?:] ... "underfaxing at its worst" .. - pb:
Ah, OK, Petr. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
there ya have me ! :] .... see, to be honest with you, i saw this pic couple days ago, but i let it go, without posting it ..... what does that make me? :] - pb:
OMGosh, just 23 more likes to beat this: http://beta.friendfeed.com/imified... ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
433 Like ! Wow ! - Like
Freemor, yes very cute! :-D - Kol Tregaskes
cute~ - Chan Pen
that's why is called a cat scan and not a cat fax. - Phil Maxwell
oh ... a scan. not fax?! .... it looked to me like she was faxink - pb:
Just 5 more likes needed. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
Fax, Petr. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
even a flat cat... faxes just can't handle the hair. You'd have to shave the cat first, else the hair will burn and stick to the drum... a mess! (I am extrapolating from transparencies, mind, i don't have access to a cat to test) - Iphigenie
Hehe, Joelle. This is now tied for the 'likes' top stop. One more then, hehe. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Hehe, Greg. Blimey! Erm, is that not far from 500 likes now? ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
Bloody marvelous, Kol. Wish I could like it again... too cute (and help u to 500 likes). - Roberto Bonini
I couldn't believe it when I logged on from the morning over posting it and saw it was at something 200 likes! You all have a strange fetish with cats and fax machines, hehe. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
Am I the only one who saw this and their first thought was - My goodness did someone break that cats neck? It still freaks me out a little - SteVe C
Steve, it does look a little out of place, but cats are pretty bendy. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
They fax much better if you flatten them first. What? - The original Kevin
LOL, Kevin. - Kol Tregaskes
i can also imagine the cat going there cause it is snug and warm - Iphigenie
Ey, it would be a tad warm on there, especially after a long working day. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
Caption which needs to be said aloud: Uh Ohz, I'm totally FAXED! - The Real sofarsoShawn
Hehe, Shawn. 10 more for the big 5-0-0. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Countdown! 8 more now! - Mike Nayyar
bump for more likes - Josh Haley
One more!! :-) - Kol Tregaskes
I took mine away, too much pressure. - SteVe C
Wow, there we go, 500 likes!! Thank you all!! :-D - Kol Tregaskes
I think Fax Kitty deserves a prize for that. - Georgie Bestie
меня, признаться, подзаебал этот кот - Парадокс Смейла
Kendra, absolutely. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
So we can put this post to rest now. :-) 505 likes final count, wow! :-D Good night all! - Kol Tregaskes
did 3 people really un-like this? now at 506. wtf (edit: uh, oh, yeah, me and 2 + 506 others makes 509. dammit, jim, i'm an artist, not a mathematician) - ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
wish I could double like! - metalerik
Wish I could just like it at all. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
This is also still on the Best of page. That must be the longest running best of post? :-) - Kol Tregaskes
But it's a cat being crushed... - Richard A.
برای چی این همه لایک خورده؟؟؟؟؟ - نصرآبادی
Hehe, Richard. - Kol Tregaskes
copy cat - gibilix
518 like! most liked post? - Lu Tao
ay yerim yaa çok tatlı kedicikk :)) - Arzu
Lu, yeah but a long way now. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
*bump* - Andre
Blew past 500 likes - LIKE!!!!! - Roberto Bonini
OMGosh, nearly heading to 550!! - Kol Tregaskes
So we know how many people use this site. - Richard A.
So that's what Paws Printing means. - Jack&Cleo
Richard, we getting there. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
Jack, hehe. - Kol Tregaskes
this thread is making history. - vijay
Indeed .. this is a most epic thread - Mattb4rd
Hehe. 9 more for 550! - Kol Tregaskes
7. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
Actually only 5...cuz "You, Earl E Morningwood, yasin ghasemi and... 542 liked this" - The Real sofarsoShawn
Who wants to bet how many likes this thead is going to get??? - Roberto Bonini
Gosh, no idea. - Kol Tregaskes
take some bets then come back in a year to check? - Iphigenie
:) - SokooteDel
Holy smokes .. this pussy cat is approaching 600 likes! - Mattb4rd
552 now, so there are some unlikes going on, hehe, oh well. Still an amazing amount of likes. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
And back down to 559. Hehe. - Kol Tregaskes
And how could anyone not love kitties after seeing this photo? - Susan Beebe
I liked it without reading this discussion - evidentially we have a lot of people who like the idea of faxing a cat! - Rich
Rich, yes, worrying, hehe. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
I think we'll have to recruit more ffeeps before this record will ever be broken - Jason (not an Argonaut)
maybe a good way to clone cats :) - Roberto
Hehe, Roberto. - Kol Tregaskes
This surely couldn't hit 600 likes, could it!? - Kol Tregaskes
It could! Keep bumping it up! - imabonehead
It will :) - Roberto Bonini
Wow, not even 600 Likes? Feh. ;-) - j1m
No yet. Close though. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Stuck on 581. - Kol Tregaskes
One of the best funny cat pictures I've seen! :-) - John Collis
Kristian, it appears to be. Hehe, John. - Kol Tregaskes
ای بابا این پیشول بی خیال نمی شود، بابا پاشو برو دنبال یه بازی دیگه ، از هفته پیش تا حالا تو فکس ولو شدی حوصله ات سر نرفته، پاشو اقلا بپر رو کیبوردی چیزی - Maryaminaa
11 more to 600. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
داداش كوتاه بيا، مي خواي ركورد بزني!؟ - Exir
هستم بره این کامنتتو ترجمه کنه اکسیر ! :))) داره از فضولی میمیره الان ! :D - Shayan
Hehe, 6 more likes. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Need 1 more like, by my calculation, to get to 600 - Josh Haley
Another unlike then, back down to 598. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
it's 598+3, at the moment ;-) - Andre
There we go, 601!! Wow, can't believe it. :-D Thanks everyone!! - Kol Tregaskes
3 people un liked :( - Roberto Bonini
I think there have been made unlikes over the last week, oh well. - Kol Tregaskes
too many likes, the kitteh is burning up..stop the madness...;) - Jason (not an Argonaut)
Haha, Jason. - Kol Tregaskes
Whoa! :-) - Kol Tregaskes
man! ..Kol is gaining ... and I saw that pic one day before Kol posted it :X ..and i let it go! :[)] - pb:
Petr, who's he? - Kol Tregaskes
omg, this post passed 600 likes! - imabonehead
@Kol ..well the man .. Mr Photographer .. ok .. let me go there .. - pb:
I see. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
631 likes, amazing stuff. :-D - Kol Tregaskes
Day 11 and this thing's still going! - Phil Maxwell
Why fax yourself when you can get famous via FriendFeed? :-) - Willem (@wim66) ☠
whereas a cat *scan* is totally feasible - Megan Craig
Kol, congratulations, you won the Friendfeed Award for the most likes entry! - Jérôme
Kol is this from your rival: Squashy Cat Photography? - The Real sofarsoShawn
Haha, Shawn. Have you really bumped this one again? ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
LOL I was actually looking at best of month and I thought I'm going to be clever :-) - The Real sofarsoShawn
this makes me laugh every darn time I see it - Stephanie•CogSciLibrarian
Who is this NShawnFW? ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
kitties do like to find new spots to nap :) - Maryam
LOL, now over 650 likes. - Kol Tregaskes
این هنوز در نیومده از لای این دستگاه؟ - Maryaminaa
Wow. this is good..... pleased, Kol? - Roberto Bonini
Pleased? About the number of likes? I'm happy regardless. :-D - Kol Tregaskes
So do we think it will go to 700 likes? ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
what do you mean by "it" ? say "he" or "she". :) - Maryaminaa
Haha, I was referring to the entry. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
lol - Maryaminaa
I see someone already posted 'Copy Cat' !! LOL Great picture - Kevin J Hatton
O HAI! I IZ WATIN FR COOPONZ, KTHXBYE. - WYRD 101
Neksnapper 3000 Kitten Eradicator - Kills Kittehs Dead - Mattb4rd
Hehe. - Kol Tregaskes
10 more likes for 700! :-) - Kol Tregaskes
7 more by my count! - Bec Rowe @d0tski
Oops, yes you're right, Bec. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Isn't it illegal to fax a pussy? - aerobroken
It's really only social convention which regards it as inappropriate, same with Xeroxing it, like one does with their b__tocks. Wait are we still talking about cats cats here or... - The Real sofarsoShawn
OMGosh 700+ likes now!! LOL. Thank you all 702 of you. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Wow, not so bad huh? \u) - Zu from AOD
Before faxing it, you have to flatten it out a bit. You're going at it all wrong! :-) - Rick Cogley
Must try this at home! - Anthony K. Valley ©
Bumping some old great posts. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Now THAT is a classic! - Allan Besselink
you have to flatten it first!!! ;) - Neda S.
This is very good humor! - TrafficBug
Hey, we've hit the 700-like mark. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
just a couple thousand to go - Jason (not an Argonaut)
LOL - Smeerch
__awesome__ - scotu ._.,
and it got resurrected once again! - Iphigenie
I managed to do it once, but I don't think I'm going to do it again. The results were a little fuzzy. - Seth Greenblatt
Bump. - Kol Tregaskes
ahahahahaha salaaa baaaaaakkkkkk - missipipi
I'm so glad this thread has been revived. The cat in the fax machine never fails to delight. - Michelle Jones
aha! 700 kişi zorla kapağın altına tepilen kediyi beğenmiş - Siminya
I've heard of cheap paper but this is ridiculous!! - Neda S.
Copy the cat - Alyn William
And there I was thinking this was the most liked post on FriendFeed. Darn, just 3rd. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
Just 100 more likes to go. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
Missed this the first time around. - John (bird whisperer)
Wow, over 700 likes. :-D - Kol Tregaskes
715 likes and counting. - Kol Tregaskes
who revived that one? - Iphigenie
Me, sorry. - Kol Tregaskes
Just 40 more likes. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
all right let's do it... - Iphigenie
Love this one! - Fossil Huntress
Michael Fidler
These are all done in Pencil.
Tiger in  Pencil.jpg
Bear in Pencil.jpg
Lion in Pencil.jpg
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Impressive - M F
Great work! - Neya
I'm sorry but this is unbelievable:) I'll give credit to the artist upon more convincing proof! The photogenic look of the tiger and lion really helps the artist's case though:) - Roney Smith
I'm with Roney... I find this hard to believe... or maybe I'm just jealous that I can't even get stick people right! - Jasmin Smith
I don't believe it. Too amazing. - Rah-PM 2012
I'm with Rah - Shey
Only the lion looks like its drawn - embee
The bear and rhino look drawn, too. - Chris Charabaruk
very very talented. Wow they look like B&W pics you know photography. - Gabriella Sannino
These are amazing, were they done by you? - Angelo Rodrigues
Nice photographs - Rafael Robayna
@michael, if they weren't drawn by you, at least tell us who the artist is and the link - LouCypher
Link please? - Jason Wehmhoener
wow - Carolyn Chan
being slightly skeptical, i'm going to say these were done with pencil by a printer of some sorts... #justsayin - Enrique Gutierrez
they're beautiful, but skeptical as well - Jennifer Van Grove
Would need to see higher quality images to see if they are pencil or not - too many jpg artifacts to tell. - Luke Addison from twhirl
Stupefied. - Parth Awasthi
Wow!! Yeah it's pretty amazing what they can draw with a pencil nowadays, deviantART has lots of great pencil art. - Kol Tregaskes
Michael, who is the artist? - Kol Tregaskes
wow, cool! - Sarah Perez
I'm really happy everyone liked these. They're my most liked entry to date, Thanks! There also seems to be some question about whether these are actually Pencil Drawings.I can assure you that they are.When I get home, I should have the links. I have more drawings, too. - Michael Fidler from fftogo
O_O WOW...Stunning - Anna Haro
Wow, these are stunning!! - Susan Beebe
Yes, especially the tiger. Reminds me of that "Tiger, tiger burning bright." - Melanie Reed
Alright, Mike - I believe you. These are awesome. Good job! - Enrique Gutierrez
HOLY CRAP. - Chieze Okoye
no way! - Mister Groonk
Thanks Enrique, I'll post some more soon. They are a little more obvious than these ones. As Luke points out; without being able to look closely it's impossible to tell. He's right; but up close it's more obvious. I'll upload the originals to Picasa later, and then you'll be able to zoom in with any photo viewer and see for yourselves. I can't believe how many people liked these. A few people have reposted them already. Thanks! - Michael Fidler
Absolutely awesome, Michael. You are extremely talented. Everyone should repost these pix and help to make you famous. You should be doing this full time - you obviously have some passion for this. Bravo. - Chris Loft
These are really beautiful, Michael. Do you sell them? - Shannon Jiménez
Chris, I would love to say they're mine, but it's not true. I've had them for a while, but I'll find the artists names. It will just require a little backtracking. Besides, they deserve the credit; all I did was find them:-) - Michael Fidler
Cut the bullshit! :) Photos are very good. - Burçak Çubukçu
I draw alot in pencil, but they are amazing, the best for me is the girl, that is the most photo-like one. :o) - Rob Sellen :o)
I agree Rob, the girl is amazing. My favorite by far! Wait until you see it close up! It's really had to tell, even up close! - Michael Fidler
Burçak Çubukçu If these were photographs, they would be very good. As Pencil Drawings,(which they are), they're amazing. - Michael Fidler
Wow, amazingly realistic - Threepwood
@Michael Fidler did you draw them? How can you so sure? - Burçak Çubukçu
dont look like it - Prakash
@ Michael Fidler don't push so hard :) - Burçak Çubukçu
@Burçak Çubukçu I can't tell if your serious now or just kidding around. I hope your just having fun! If you are serious, I've never given you a reason to question my integrity, nor do I ever intend to. However, the second set is up now, so judge them for yourself, but don't judge me! http://ff.im/1BJh5 BTW, I messed up and reposted the shot of the women again. Oh well. Hope you like them:-) - Michael Fidler
@Michael: try deviantART, not Picasa, to submit your artworks - LouCypher
WOW "I can't believe it's in pencil" - The Real sofarsoShawn
LouCypher, I know it well, but I don't see why I would want to do that. I hope everyone knows by now that they're not mine? I'm sorry, but I can't say it any clearer than that. - Michael Fidler
nah, i don't believe it is done in pencil. i am sure it is photoshopped :) - hasin hayder
These would be great even for photos. - Sullivan
i'm not able to comprehend - Varun Shenoy
I'm finding this both interesting and humorous at the same time. There's a separate message board where this post is being discussed and it has another forty comments on it already. I think its great how this has created some lively discussion, considering that when I posted this I was doubtful if anyone would even like it. When I went to sleep last night there was only had 3 or 4 likes... more... - Michael Fidler
Very interesting. I would like to see them up close and in person...just to make sure. Bill said it's real and possible. Your 2nd set of picts look like pencil. Nice work in finding these! - LaFern Cusack
Kol, I can't thank you enough! Kol found another post which helps to prove that these are done in pencil. I had my doubts about a few of them because I collected them from several different sites over time, but the site Kol found has done a great job pulling together an impressive collection of these drawings and more. Take a look - http://www.flickzzz.com/2009... - Michael Fidler
Actually there are more than what this site shows. There's an entire set with the cats(little cats), which I have, and there's a new portrait set. - Michael Fidler
Found your post here, Michael. :-) I tried my best to find the artists. - Kol Tregaskes
Amazing and very very very good.... Very impressive ... - Linda Zeek-Bobinski
fake. http://lenscratch.blogspot.com/2009... Even if your not claiming to be the artist, these are photographs, well except the woman, thats pencil - james foor
Yeah we know, thanks though, James. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Excellent pictures - how long did it take you to scan the photographs into Photoshop and then edit them? The only pencil that has come into contact with these "drawings" is the Photoshop pencil. A tip - stop trying to fool people into thinking you are a "real" artist, because all you are doing is cheapening proper artist's works whom have spent hours creating real pictures as opposed to a few minutes on a graphics editing package. - The Wimp
A bell does ring here. And I am remembering why I was so attracted to the tiger...and the lion for that matter. These are exact replicas of prints I had in our bedroom when I lived in Dallas. I had bought the prints (in color) at a department store, - Melanie Reed
Actually, I have learned quite a bit about these drawing since I made this post. Not only have I discovered all of the artists, but I've learned more about how they are created. They are always copied from a photograph or painting, but usually a photograph. It is extremely time consuming and detail orientated work. There are many other artists besides the ones featured here who practice... more... - Michael Fidler
Most of them have portfolio's on deviantart.com and their work is truly amazing even if they are copies of other artists work. I suppose with this level of detail, they have to start with something. Nevertheless, I'm still in awe of their talent. Melanie, the animal prints you refer to are from a very well renowned photographer. The originals are B&W I'll look it up later but I do have... more... - Michael Fidler
wow; they're unbelieavably beautiful. - liladreams
Has anyone ever corrected the record and pointed out, with the exception of the Charlize Theron drawing, that these are indeed photos by Alexander Von Reiswitz? - erik weisz
Erik, thank you for bringing this up again, but I think I already mentioned something about this in my prior comment. However, since it appears that you only signed up to friendfeed to leave a single comment, (ok, why?) I will try to summarize what I wrote previously. In brief, I learned after doing a little research that all photo-realistic drawings like the ones that I shared here,... more... - Michael Fidler
Awesome - الکامپ
I can assure you that what are claimed to be drawings of animals, in your post here, are photos. I used a website to that allows you to do an comparison of the Von Reiswitz photos and the images you have posted here. There are no differences. Every hair matches up. As a pencil artist myself I can tell you that it's pretty much impossible to get that kind of accuracy and have it look... more... - erik weisz
but... it has to be real, i saw it on the internet - Iphigenie
Eric, it doesn't matter to me if you just joined, and I apologize if I made you think otherwise. If you have any questions regarding friendfeed, please feel free to ask and I will do my best to answer them. At this point, I would be happy if we could find someone who is an image analysis expert, and finally point this thing to rest. Every time that I look into this, all I find is a... more... - Michael Fidler
the site spammed above must all be done in pencil too, right, thats why you posted it? - Iphigenie
I'm amazed that people are still posting these photographs of animals and calling them pencil drawings. This is at least the third case I can remember (and there are probably more) of this happening. The myth about them being drawings was debunked long ago. It's also funny that whenever they get posted the person posting them doesn't make it clear that they aren't the artist, exactly as you have done. - canadianmaple09
@canadianmaple09 I posted these back in March, 2009 when I was beginning to use FF regularly. I ran them through TinEye hoping to find their source, but it returned no results. When I ran through again yesterday, TinEye returned over four pages of results. If I had it to do over again, would I? Yes - Michael Fidler
The people you refer do don't join "just to slam" someone, they are concerned members of the online art community that want to see real art appreciated and fake art or photos being passed off as drawings revealed for what they really are. Artists such as Brian Duey, Armin Mersmann, Paul Lung, Zindy Nielsen,and many others do not receive the appreciation they deserve because of scams like this. - canadianmaple09
canadianmaple09, the worthiness of your motives notwithstanding (and they are worthy, definitely) you could definitely have approached Michael completely differently by say, giving him the benefit of the doubt rather than attacking in a highly accusatory tone. - Chieze Okoye
When you've seen these same pictures posted multiple times by people that just find them on the internet and claim they are pencil drawings, when it has already been established on multiple occasions that they are not, the "benefit of the doubt" approach seems a little too generous. People post these images and claim they're drawings to get views for their own site or blog or page or whatever it is they post it on. It's wrong and it needs to be stopped. - canadianmaple09
I can understand that, but you should also keep in mind that everyone is not as well-versed in the issue as you are. All I'm saying is that you would probably be more effective in this case if you weren't setting this up as a us-vs.-them, "must destroy with the validity my argument!" attitude when talking to a guy who's been actively having a discussion on the issue in what seems to me (having been around when he first posted the images and the follow up thread and what not) to be good faith. - Chieze Okoye
Look at his first comment here. People clearly thought he drew them. He doesn't set the record straight. He also claims that they "are actually pencil drawings" and that "I have more drawings too." Later he claims that you need to look at them closer to see they are drawings and that he will "post the originals". Once again, this makes it sound like they are his. This follows the same... more... - canadianmaple09
Greg and Chieze, thanks for your support. I really appreciate it. @canadianmaoles09, for what it’s worth, I share your concerns about giving proper attribution when sharing also. However, I admit that I'm more conscious of it now than I was at the time of this post. Nevertheless, I have never taken credit for anybody's work here other than my own! - Michael Fidler
BTW, I didn't realize it before, but I just noticed that you're new here too. I hope you like it so far and spend more time here. IMO, friendfeed is still the best thing around! - Michael Fidler
I would probably qualify as an image analysis expert, but there's no way to prove that online. One thing we can do is look at color. Even though the images are black and white,they're actually RGB images, meaning they contain cyan magenta and yellow. If you look at the image of the rhino you have posted then look at the photo of the rhino at the photographer's site you can see they both... more... - erik weisz
Thomas Hawk
Proof that Google is racist.
blackpeoplestolemycar.jpg
holy shit... - Rafael
Uh.. WHOA! - Linda Lawrey
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that the people at Google put this in there on purpose. - Akiva
lol - conspiracy! - Jesse Stay
They may want to add an exception for that, though. :-) - Jesse Stay
are u serious thomas? wtf? - teymur madjderey
If you're banking on Google to recover your car after a grand thief auto, you might want to try other resources. Bing? - Micah
Me and my family just picked ourselves up off the floor and dried our eyes after ROFL'ing profusely at this... - Rah-PM 2012
LOL! <sarcasm>I am going to go talk to the Race Czar's about this immediately!</sarcasm> - EricaJoy
if you search for "blakc peolpestole my car" you can see the same result.. just change for the correct one and take a print screen... hahaha this is hell funny - Rafael
FAIL! - Wayne Sutton
huh...I tried both and neither gave a 'did you mean....' Why the difference? - George Gray
George, this was from earlier. I think it's probably been fixed by now. - Thomas Hawk
I can't reproduce the results either. Even more proof that Google's damage control department works real f-a-s-t - BLOGBloke
I can reproduce these results (as it's fake). 1 - Do a google search for 'balck people stole my car' 2 - when the results come back, in the search box type 'white people stole my car'. 3 - Screenshot and fool everyone. - Will Higgins™
Thomas...ah...I was catching up on my feed and didn't notice when the message posted. Still, I have noticed different results when using Google from: the browser search bar, going right to google.com and when logged into google via iGoogle. Weird. - George Gray
This reminds me of how commercials for home alarm systems always feature white criminals. - Akiva
Dude, you win 1000 times over for use of the word 'colored'. I'm about as far from a racist as you can get but that shit cracks me up every time. - Akiva
これはひどい - as365n2
i think that google isnt racist, but people that use it yes..infact google shows firstly the most popular results.....this is my opinion..and please apologize me formy english..i'm italian!w La pizza! - Lyssa
they did it as the Chinese government did. - xia
seems they fix it somehow. - Mike
Lyssa's right. Google is a mirror. - Vicarbott
*Now* "white people stole my car" beats "black people stole my car" in a Google Duel, 3:1 - Tim Tyler
I sense a really nasty meme being created :-( - Ian D. Nock
That's it, I'm going to Ask.com! lol - Bryan R. Adams
paranoid approaches. - takmaz
I posted that a couple days ago and someone debunked it almost immediately. - Ben Hanten
再現できないが..... - jx0
google is funny! i stole the car - HansVanRock
Oh wowwww ... SMH lol - Iesha G
Jesse Stay
The 2 things I like about Apple: consistency and focus. The 2 things I like about Google: open source and malleability.
Damat Ferit
hah - Simto Alev
bence hahah - Damat Ferit
"ahah" ne piki? - Parfe
Parfe hemen açıklayayım a- hah iki öbekli bir kelime "a" bir şaşırma veriyor hah ise şaşırmadan sonra gülme efekti. Çok şaşırtıcı aynı zamanda hoş, komik anlamında yani:P o hah uzarsa ahahaha gibi şaşırdım ama çok komik oluyor :) - Damat Ferit
hah ^^ - Selen
Louis Gray
Twinpads: a.k.a. 2 iPads achieved. 16 GB and 64 GB WiFi Models In Hand #ipad
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Hmph. In my day an Etch-a-Sketch was all we got. - Spidra Webster
Awwww, so cute! And the kids are precious, too - I like big Botts
...to the pics, I mean. First published pics of twins with iPads?? - WoH: Minding her Steves
How long will it be before they can wrest the iPads from the twins, though? - WoH: Minding her Steves
iPad and twins separated. Now off to an Easter egg hunt! - Louis Gray from iPhone
Given those pics of Sarah crying because Louis took the iPhone away, I question the wisdom of this... :) - Spidra Webster
Darn, we lost Louis to the iPad. Who's next? - Jorge Escobar
I see you bought one for me - Jesse Stay
When I grow up, I want to be like Louis. - DGentry
Are they willing to loan them to you? - Anne Bouey
Note that Sarah is demoing the iPhone version of Doodle Jump on her iPad. - Louis Gray
Nicely done, Louis. Nicely done. - Phil Glockner
Wonderful Louis! I just marvel that unlike mine when they were that age, they didn't just throw them! - Technogran
Love Matthew's demonstration of the keyboard. Sarah is starting to look like, "there was a little girl, who had a little curl ..." - Laura Norvig
Audrey practically has a conniption fit when she sees the iPad. She gets a big kick out of moving screens around and scrolling with her finger. I'm half-tempted to find some kind of simple game with animals or something for her but I also don't want to establish the idea that it's okay for her to play with it. I keep telling her, 'Not for Audrey,' and she's scrambling over me like I'm a rainbow with banana slices at the other end, pointing at the iPad and saying, 'This! This! This! This! This!' - Akiva
Cocuk oyuncagi icin iyimis.. =P - !lker yoldas. )°(
Oh look, these two little guys found large, square Easter Eggs.. :) - Alex Schleber
Nice description Akiva. I remember that with the iphone and my daughter. Not sure how long you can hold her off. My daughter has had her own page on my iphone since before she was 2! Scared to see what it'll be like when she wants to borrow my truck... - metalerik
Unlike the iPhone, those may be too big to use like hammers. - MiniMage, enterRUPPted
I love that 2nd pic of Matthew. :D - Ayşe E.
They have no idea what's going on. Awesome. - Mike Nayyar
Also, DEMAND VIDEO OF BABBIES PLAYING WITH IPADS - Mike Nayyar
What are their thoughts on the lack of Flash? *evil grin* - Mo Kargas
Apple wants those pics - think college tuition! - Martha from BuddyFeed
reズa       .
آدم از این تابلوها داشت که غم نداشت ،بیرون هم نمی رفت - reズa .
Erdëm GULTEKIN
ahahahaha .ikti attı ya :D - derya sertkan
auahauhauahau şimdi spor salonundan çıkıp eve girdim ya auahuahauah - Ozan Oke (a.k.a Xenon)
ahahah ben yanındaki sakin sakin oturana daha çok güldüm - Alev
Hiç istifini bozmuyor ahuahauah - Ozan Oke (a.k.a Xenon)
Alet dandikmiş, yapacak bişey yok. :D Normalde epey sert profil çelikten yapılır bunlar - Acharad Sami
iyi güldüm akşam akşam, süper oldu :)) - özlem ercan
:)))) - نجاتی
düşenin dostu olmaz :) ( böyle düşenin hiç olmaz ) - Gepetto
Attaboy - Roberto Bonini
There are. No words. - tehKenny
EPIC OUCH!! x 2 - Susan Beebe
should have left it as coat rack - just ZONED
thats what happens when you have screws left over - just ZONED
I like how the guy sitting in the chair on the left just watches idly while the treadmill disintegrates under the running man's feet! - rowlikeagirl
Mark Trapp
I guess TechCrunch just got hacked again? Or is this residue from the other day?
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Just started appearing on pages here. Wasn't there earlier. - Mark Trapp
Just saw something like that for a flash second. - David Damore
Looks current to me. It may have gotten fixed and it's just a cached page, but not likely I'd say. - Micah
Looked like it went away... came here, went back.... Who-AH! Crazy! - David Damore
it's there right now. - Joe The Sausage
I don't see any obviously unusual domains in any script tag SRCs, so doesn't seem to have any XSS exploits. Can't be too careful, though. - Micah
They took the site down now. - Mark Trapp
Now just outputs: We'll be back shortly. - Micah
That welcome ad would be a lot nicer if it sent the next page as a URL param instead of sending you to the homepage. - Matt M (inactive)
I can't believe they started putting that in, but the only thing worse than an interstitial ad is a broken one. It took 3 refreshes to get rid of it before. - Mark Trapp
Last night I couldn't get that ad to disappear at all - Mo Kargas
There is an XXX section on dupedb.com, but it only contains brief descriptions of adult content. - Vezquex
Louis Gray
Microsoft Office is obsolete, or soon will be - http://www.betanews.com/joewilc...
sincerely doubt office will become obsolete - If I was running a company, I sure as hell wouldn't store essential corporate data in gdocs. They'd be on my own network, where I can control them with an extranet and/or VPN to provide external access to them. However, this doesn't mean the app itself has to be local, I'll agree there as long as the data can remain out of the hands of the provider. - alphaxion
Office is still strong and going nowhere. - Eric
This is one of those times I realioze that bloggers have quotas - Holden Page
aye, it is still essential software for companies - tho open office is providing an ever growing threat, it's just not there yet. The issue is, most bloggers like these have no damn clue about the corporate world and either write about their own experience or about the consumer - blissfully unaware as to how a massive chunk of the market functions. - alphaxion
I'm a big OpenOffice fan - have been for a number of years. I live in MS country but I don't live by MS rules. - Renee Hendricks
Can't stand open office, the UI is way behind and Office is much more polished. Will pay for Office willingly - Holden Page
also, most of my IT peers refused to roll out office 2007 because the test users they tried it with were totally baffled by the interface and actually saw their productivity drop. And holden, that's why I said it wasn't there yet. I use office 2007 on my windows desktop and openoffice on my mac... the gulf between the two was quite stark. I especially noticed it had a massive problem with URL's in the text. - alphaxion
I know my school is going to have quite an issue upgrading to 2010 office since the UI is so much different. IMO though (and i have nothing but personal experience to back this up) once you get used to the UI things just start to "click" in 2007. - Holden Page
oh, and the company I used to work for had about 10Gb worth of excel documents alone spanning almost 10 years. - alphaxion
good lord - Holden Page
I know. And this was a small to mid sized company. Imagine that across an entire market and you'll realise why many companies like to stick with in-house stuff. It's not cause IT staff are trying to safeguard their jobs, it's cause self determination of your data is abolutely key in the enterprise. Also, as a side comment, try applying for a job outside of the creative industry with a... more... - alphaxion
GDocs and Open Office can not yet replace Office. It's hard to compete with Excel. Word on the other hand isn't really needed unless you're doing lengthy well-organized documents and taking full advantage of many of its features. The problems comes in that most people that use Office just needed Wordpad or something similar. I do love GDocs, but it's only about a 75% replacement. - xero
Office is alive and well and is the only app suite on my "Cloud Machine". :) - Louis Gray
Loooooooooooooooooooong tail. - Johnny from iPhone
Somebody somewhere is always predicting the obsolescence or death of Microsoft something or other. It's just a way to make a living. - Brian Sullivan
Anyone document intensive who has tried to use Google Docs as an alternative will tell you that the alternatives to Office are so bad that even Microsoft can't destroy Office. I wish it were different, but it isn't. - Kent
I agree Kent, at least so far. - manielse (Mark Nielsen)
As long as business uses temporary workers, there will be Office. Nobody wants to have to train people to use something else. - Dawn
dawn: it's not even restricted to temps, from my experience it's full time staff too. Even tho most jobs will still say "working knowledge of word and excell a must", many do not even have this. I lost count the numbers of times we had calls to the helldesk where a user had changed the formatting of their document and didn't know how to change it back or wanted to do a simple formula in... more... - alphaxion
I went on a business startup course last year, they were talking about managing your business finances and I knocked up a spreadsheet version of the example sheet we had within about 20 mins on my mac with openoffice. The others looked at me as though they were homohabilis and I just showed them a radio! - alphaxion
Zee.
Tell me this isn’t the one of the coolest buildings you’ve ever seen. - http://www.zee.me/blog...
Tell me this isn’t the one of the coolest buildings you’ve ever seen.
cool - Mike Nencetti
where is it? - Coƺla
haven't got the foggiest. - Zee.
BOOYAH! http://gizmodo.com/301101... (It's in China) - Chieze Okoye
oh, awesome, thank you - Coƺla
Cool it is ! - TrafficBug
شاندیز - Vicey
worst architecture ever :D - Shandiz
یادمه حسین دقیقا اینو یه بار بهم رونوشت داده بود - Shandiz
just a little bit too analogical? :D - shannafra
zeroinfluencer
“If a cluttered desk is a sign of a cluttered mind, then what are we to think of an empty desk?” - http://picdit.wordpress.com/2008...
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On the advantages and disadvantages of having a messy desk authentic treaties have been written, some of whom argue that chaos can be more productive than an order too strict. However, nothing like the quote attributed to Einstein himself supposed to put things in place: “If a cluttered desk is a sign of a cluttered mind, then what are we to think of an empty desk?” - zeroinfluencer from Bookmarklet
Mess is Lore. - zeroinfluencer
Is an empty desk necessarily the opposite of a messy desk? What about an impecably furnished and formidably organised desk... and what of that mind? - Graham Sergeant
I find it interesting that we always subject Einstein to these kinds of things. I am working on my #adhd photographic series. But maybe I should properly document them in black and white so it's less scary :) http://www.flickr.com/photos... - See-ming Lee 李思明 SML
Einstein is the ipso facto icon of genius but like any scientist he was just another obsolete stepping stone in the chain to the next thing. - Graham Sergeant
While they are of course deeply embedded and indebted to scientific work going back to Aristotle, leaps made by Einstein while formalising special relativity, wave particle duality and general relativity make him more than a mere stepping stone and far from obsolete. Work to understand the ramifications of his theories continues to this day. His desk is still a bit of a mess :) - James Tindall
Is Einstein's work problematic for us? It paved the way for Quantum Mechanics, whose inherent indeterminism was unacceptable for him. The point of looking at previous paradigm shifts is to show that science, taken as the great totem of objective proof is actually a subjective prism with limited use and lifespan. - Graham Sergeant
I agree with you completely about the process of science. I feel like a bit of a pedant now, but I don't see that Einstein's theories are obsolete. Some of his ideas paved the way for Quantum Mechanics but that doesn't leave his ideas -particularly General Relativity- superseded. Neither QM or GR are the final answer and both are incomplete. A unified theory will by definition involve... more... - James Tindall
At some point they will pass their usefullness as new paradigms are constructed. There's no doubting the beauty and complexity of his theories and they could be around for millenia, but what I'm getting at is the rhetorical absolutism with which EInstein is used as the default objective proof positive of genius and if he had a messy desk at Princeton... then it's case closed, beyond... more... - Graham Sergeant
Aha, yes, completely with you there. Good point. Einstein could very well be used to replace Nazis in Godwin's law! - James Tindall
So, to follow the logic, and the spirit of the thread, Hitler was "just another obsolete stepping stone in the chain to the next thing: ? :) - zeroinfluencer
Ladies and Gentleman... here endeth the thread ;-) (fecker) - Graham Sergeant
I imagine he had "an impeccably furnished and formidably organised desk..." - zeroinfluencer
I hear he was holed up in Berlin as his dream of world domination went up in smoke... - Graham Sergeant
I smoke world domination for breakfast... - zeroinfluencer
... with a messy desk or not. - zeroinfluencer
Chaos... order... it's all relative. - Graham Sergeant
Is the glass half ordered or half chaotic? - zeroinfluencer
temperate... like Goldilocks ordered. - Graham Sergeant
Porridge - the median of chaos and order. How big is the bowl? - zeroinfluencer
No one knows but it's bowls all the way down. - Graham Sergeant
reality is such a lumpy meal. - zeroinfluencer
When life gives you lumps make lumpenade. - Graham Sergeant
A bitter pill for a better day? - zeroinfluencer
“Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is not to stop questioning.” Einstein. - Graham Sergeant
He was biased. Questions was his job. Answers was his hobby. And he couldn't define 'now' never mind 'today' - zeroinfluencer
I knew I'd twist you around to my way of thinking... MUHAHAHAHAHA! - Graham Sergeant
I haz ideas. They were yours. - zeroinfluencer
It's all about the execution... any last requests? - Graham Sergeant
Another iteration? - zeroinfluencer
meddling to the very end... - Graham Sergeant
Mary
... and pure ur sprite , as well ....... - Houshang...
Agree houshang - Mary
@hasrat, salam bib boob. - Mary
bib boob is my robotic sound you know! - Mary
:) now what? - Mary
Thanks for let me to do that,it would be fun,you are so generous person! - Mary
I dont use that anymore,but it shown also your kindness :) boob! - Mary
BAAB :) - Mary
I will :)) - اردویسور
veryy nice :D - Erkan Rua
Thanks! - Mary
Atul Arora
RT @neilpatel: 1 in 9 Indian Americans are millionaires. http://en.allexperts.com/e...
Kevin Fox
A Form of Madness - New form input types in HTML 5 - http://diveintohtml5.org/forms...
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So that's HTML5 that makes the iPhone virtual keyboard awesome. - Jérôme
Have they gotten around to adding combo boxes to HTML yet? - Gabe
what's a combo box? - Robert Felty
A combo box is a combination of a text box and a drop-down box. You can use it to select an item from a list or type in your own value. Auto-complete boxes are often implemented with these. - Gabe
I hope all browsers supports it soon - Ahmed Magdy
Somebody posted this yesterday. I already changed OurDoings registration to use type="email", and I used type="url" a couple places on the site integration page. - Bruce Lewis
Standard makers seem to always try put the features into HTML. Website makers seem to always try to put the features into JavaScript/ CSS. And not just because of the chicken and egg problem of browsers not yet supporting the element, but also perhaps because UI needs are too specific to define in advance (as soon as you want additional feature X from the UI element -- say, a Calendar... more... - Philipp Lenssen
Well, it's best if a browser knows what is supposed to go into an input area (so it can natively validate it and whatnot) and if it can be styled (so the website author can choose how it looks). To accomplish that it's not an either/or choice, Philipp. - James Robinson
Well if e.g. the date differentiates between busy and free dates for your AcmeCalendar picker, then the browser would not be able to natively validate the input (unless one could provide a standardized Ajax API URL to the widget handling this stuff?), or would it? So you'd be back to your own JS. Agreed it's not an either-or situation -- one could use the native elements as long as they... more... - Philipp Lenssen
Mahdi Ebrahimi
Jesse Stay
Facebook’s Help Center Gets UI Upgrade - http://www.insidefacebook.com/2009...
Jason Wehmhoener
Photographers Capture Life in Garbage City : TreeHugger - http://www.treehugger.com/files...
Photographers Capture Life in Garbage City : TreeHugger
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"Outside Egypt's capital, in the shadow of the Pyramids and tucked in the mountains of Mokattam, is an incredible city that literally survives on trash. Garbage City, as it's known, is home to 30,000 Zabaleens-- Coptic Christians from southern Egypt --who, each day, enter Cairo and collect its waste. 60 percent of the trash produced in Cairo passes through Garbage City to be recycled. It is an amazing sight, awash in refuse. Recently, photographers Bas Princen, Klavs Bo Christensen and Alexander Heilner visited Garbage City and returned with some captivating images that depict the close, day-to-day relationship between the Zabaleens and the garbage. Piles of the stuff are virtually everywhere, a fact that these recyclers-by-trade seem none too concerned with. The garbage collecting process is so organized, Cairo has had no need to create a government sponsored program, relying fully upon the residents of Garbage City to collect their trash. Just a single pair of Zabaleens, working... more... - Jason Wehmhoener from Bookmarklet
Jesse Stay
New Blog Post: Potential FriendFeed Hole Allows Users to Embed Web Bugs http://staynalive.com/article...
I actually found that "feature" a few months ago and was going to use it to make a fun friendfeed toy. Friendfeed's future being uncertain has that project in limbo at the moment (may still do it). - mikepk
Mike, yeah - if they're going to keep it there are some cool uses for it, but my guess is they probably don't want to keep it. Thought I'd bring it into the open regardless just to see what the official word actually is (and maybe finally get rid of that pesky Tweetmeme button that keeps appearing in my posts) - Jesse Stay
Feature. Tweetmeme's image is no more out of place here than it is on your blog. - Bruce Lewis from fftogo
maybe I should slap the toy together before they close it. :) I think people on friendfeed would enjoy what I'm thinking about building (those that are left :) ). - mikepk
Like Tweetmeme, Bruce is trying to inflate his increment count ;) EDIT: oh, Bruce deleted the dup - fun is over :) - Micah
Atul Arora
Facebook Rolls Out FB.me URL Shortener - http://ryanspoon.com/blog...
AJ Batac :)
If I had one hour to live...
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Now that's rude. - Louis Gray
ding! - AJ Batac :)
that's a fantastic sarcasm :) - Sasha Kovaliov
Hanna Wiszniewska
Kol Tregaskes
I bet $100 you don't have the guts to do this - http://koltregaskes.soup.io/post...
I bet $100 you don't have the guts to do this
LOL! - Kol Tregaskes
haha what? - Marissa
No. definately not. - Roberto Bonini
Afternoon LOL! - AJ Batac :)
That was pretty much my reaction on August 10th. - Jemm
I did that, but I was heading vertical, school had a vaulted ceiling and I went running, stepped on a chair right were it dropped, on impact both shoes fell off, one hit a guy in the face. - Jimminy, CoG of FF
wonder if that kid had aspirations of being a stunt guy... "dignity, always with dignity" ;) - alphaxion
What a plonker. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
ah, to be young and stupid again. (as opposed to middle-aged and stupid.) - Joe The Sausage
You lose, Kol. I have done that. :D - Steven Perez
Darn it, I'll have to pay up. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
oUcH! - Hüseyin EROL
I'd do it in a heartbeat 20 years ago. Now, I'd be afraid I'd break a hip or something. *shakes fist* - Rodfather
spidey failure. - Ozer Wrzl (EN)
Hehe, Ozer, - Kol Tregaskes
hehehe :) - Mahdi Ebrahimi
Step away from the crack Pipe !!! - SCS of the Space Station
Can I use the $100 to get liquored up before I do it? - Mark Krynsky
If I weren't afraid of going right through the wall, I'd probably still try that. I know I would have done that (and did similar things quite often) when I was much younger. - Curdy G
This is still superb this morning after. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
This is why most men seem to have some form of brain damage. - m9m, Crone of FriendFeed
Hehe! - Kol Tregaskes
That is not a leap of faith! - earl wallace from twhirl
Not quite. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
I don't have to show you that since I do that on every workday. - imabonehead
Ah is it, oh well, new to me. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
My Soup.io page got on Reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r... and this anim got on the front page: http://www.reddit.com/r... - Kol Tregaskes
hey buddy i posted Da Gif On Reddit but it got So many down vote, beats me, any way your gif rux - Amir
Ah, cool. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
This is awesome :) - Joe Dawson
Defining the line between brave and stupid? - Eoghann Irving
If I did that, first the wall would collapse, and then the floor. (So, you see, it's not that I *couldn't*... I just choose not to, for the protection of others.) - Mark J
You're right. I don't have the guts...and I'm proud of that. - Tammy Marshall
Bumped, just because. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
I have the brains not to - just ZONED
...Spiderman, Spiderman... not! - .LAG liked that
lol - echostreamer
LouCypher
Hurl - a web version of cURL - http://hurl.it/
Hurl - a web version of cURL
Hurl makes HTTP requests. Enter a URL, set some headers, view the response, then share it with others. Perfect for demoing and debugging APIs. [via Leah Culver http://blog.leahculver.com/2009...] - LouCypher from Bookmarklet
Like web-sniffer.net? - TrafficBug
I love the name is hurl. - Outsanity
@TrafficBug: yes, but you can add request header on Hurl - LouCypher
Kevin Fox
No, I didn't. YOU shut down the computer. Stop deflecting and accept accountability, Mac!
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"You shut down." "No, YOU shut down!" "Mom, he's power-cycling me!" "Not unplugging, can't get mad!" - Kevin Fox
haha - mohamadreza
The worst part is I can hear Justin Long telling me I shut down the computer, all snide and pissy about it. - Kevin Fox
I would love to do a piledriver on that dude. I'm just sayin'. - Hookuh Tinypants
Haha...awesome. - Mark Krynsky
Who shutdown first? Somedays I think it really was Greedo. - Micah
Jim Norris
Support for Same-Sex Marriage by Age and State » Sociological Images - http://contexts.org/socimag...
Support for Same-Sex Marriage by Age and State » Sociological Images
"The data supports the notion that younger people are more supportive of gay marriage than older people. I also think it’s interesting that, even in states that we normally consider quite hostile to gay rights (the ones at the bottom of the table), there is still a significant age difference: 18-29 year-olds in Alabama, for example, are more supportive of gay marriage than people 65 and older in Massachusetts. So, while we like to think about states as “liberal” or “conservative,” spreading out the data by age tells a much more complicated story." - Jim Norris from Bookmarklet
Would like to see a graph with "has internet" (do younger people more frequently use/ more regularly access the internet?) - Philipp Lenssen
Where's the graph for polygamist marriage? - Gus
Waiting a "generation or two" isn't going to do a whole lot for the gay community now. This is particularly true for elderly gay and lesbian individuals who are facing mortality and unable to secure inheritances etc for their partners. - Soup in a TARDIS
My guess is that open-mindedness comes with actually knowing people who are gay/lesbian/etc. and realizing that it's an inescapable part of who they are and just a different manifestation of the same powerful feelings of love and commitment that everyone feels. It also probably has to do with marriage being defined as a romantic notion these days rather than a more economic and social framework in the past. As evidence for this, I have nothing. - Jim Norris
And I may not be the strongest gay-marriage supporter out there by any means... I mean, I'm ok with it and think it should be allowed, but only as long as I don't have to get gay married myself. - Jim Norris
Nice, Jim, nice. - Kelly
I concur, Jim Norris. :) - Mona Nomura from iPhone
Ah, so Jim, you support "weak" gay marriage, not "strong" gay marriage. - Stephen Mack
Interesting. So even if attitudes by age remain constant, in 20 years, the 18 states from Pennsylvania up will be strongly pro gay-marriage, but the 22 states from Wyoming on down will remain opposed, even 40 years hence. - j1m
And of course, the prediction is that attitudes by age will be far from remaining constant. Indeed attitudes toward gays seem to have made almost all of their progress in the last 15 years, afaict. - j1m
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Zee.
Apple approves a “Hitler Book” app with Nazi Symbol as its logo. How did no one catch this? - http://thenextweb.com/2009...
Apple approves a “Hitler Book” app with Nazi Symbol as its logo. How did no one catch this?
So are you guys for or against censorship from Apple? I can't justify *not* making a book available to people. And seriously "swach sticker?" - Dustin Sallings
Maxamad, I totally agree an inconsistent censorship policy is bad. Any censorship policy is bad. Banning books -- even those nobody agrees with is bad. That's the irony here: http://wiki.answers.com/Q... - Dustin Sallings
NO way! can we boycott that app?! damn Apples is messed up!! - Susan Beebe
Susanbeebe, absolutely! Don't buy it, don't publicize it (this thread probably sold more copies than would've otherwise been sold). Don't make it sound like super-powerful forbidden knowledge that will give someone power that everyone else should fear because the reader will magically transform into the next Hitler and kill us all. Most importantly, let's not encourage organizations to hide information from us that some of us disagree with. - Dustin Sallings
Really?? "Apple approves a “Hitler Book” app with Nazi Symbol as its logo"? mhh.. #Nightmare book? - Thierry R. Andriamirado
Zee.
OH NOES!!!! - Mathew™ aka Youngblood
Okay...steps back and runs off. - Mol, FF Music Lover
you know when I first saw this I thought... just a little lower and it would be like one of those "crack kills" cartoons... - Harold
I wonder what the rat/dog is looking at. - Brian Sullivan
ARe you serious? - Michelle
Scoble, Alex Scoble
It saddens me that so many Americans think that giving gays the right to marry will somehow damage the sanctity of their own marriages.
I actually feel like denying it reduces the value of mine. - joey
exactly. - Joe The Sausage
Well said, Joey. - Scoble, Alex Scoble from IM
I suppose preventing gays from marrying helps Americans feel less bad about their failing marriages. Or something... - Jonathan Hardesty
Americans? which ones? certainly not me. my marriage is pretty healthy and i don't understand why two people who love each other can't marry, whatever their respective genders. - Joe The Sausage
"But gays already have the right to marry, just not someone of the same sex." - Jim Norris
Jim: just change "gays" to "negroes" and "same sex" to "different race" and I wonder how many people, today, would vote the same way? - Bren
discrimination is discrimination, and the people who vote against gay marriage and gay rights are bigots. it's really quite simple. - Bren
I think some people just believe that without rules to enforce a certain kind of conduct in society, everything will devolve into chaos and decadence. - Jim Norris
"certain kind of conduct"? what does that mean, Jim? that gay people are misbehaving? that they are somehow outside of the bounds of polite society? edit: I'll just stick with my original statement: the people who vote against gay rights and gay marriage are bigots, same as the people who have resisted civil rights for minorities throughout history. - Bren
Bren: I personally believe that gay marriage should be legal; I'm just trying to articulate the opposing argument. If you really believe that homosexual conduct is a sin, for example, it wouldn't make sense for the state to sanction it. - Jim Norris
Actually, Jim, in our system of governance it would not be appropriate for the state to take into account whether something was a sin to some religious group or not. No one is saying that churches would have to sanctify gay marriage if their doctrine prohibited it. I know the arguments, and they do nothing to abrogate my belief that the people who make the arguments are bigots. I... more... - Bren
Yeah it's hard to play devil's advocate with this. - Jim Norris
The problem is that there is no rational argument against it. The only option is to use religious doctrine. I just wonder if, for example, those of the Judeo-Christian persuasion were in the minority in this country and the atheist-majority decided that religious marriage should be illegal what they would think? Then again, one of the things I have always liked least about "religious"... more... - Bren
+++Bren, I totally agree! - Jeff P. Henderson
The problem is that everyone here agrees, but obviously millions of people in the country don't, and if we can't appreciate their perspective without disparaging it we can't understand what needs to be done to win over those people and enact real change. - Jim Norris
Funny that many of those who most violently object to gay marriage are the first to assert that they have a RIGHT to THEIR religious beliefs, to own a gun, to freedom of speech. - Jeff P. Henderson
Hypocrisy is a necessity to the closed minded. - Simon Curran
Jim: I can tell you what needs to be done - during the civil-rights movement in the '60s the Federal government (Supreme Court, Nat'l Guard, etc) stepped in and said "state's rights are fine, but you all are not going to continue to practice segregation and de jure discrimination based on race is no longer going to be tolerated. We, as a country, do not need to appreciate the bigoted,... more... - Bren
Jim, for many people, their closed minds and adherence to outdated or extreme religious beliefs define their perspective. I do not know of a simple way to counter either if these forces. Federal legislation as Bren pointed out, is probably one of the only ways to affect change. - Jeff P. Henderson
devalue the legality of marriage. fine, if people want to have some ceremony in a church where their imaginary friend approves. HOWEVER - make the same legal ceremony where M/F, F/F, M/M can be partners for life and have the same rights as everyone else together in the world. - Terry O'Fee
i'm not saying i agree, but unfortunately marriage throughout history is tied to religion. so therefore these fundies can scream bashing their work of fiction saying "it's not right!" - Terry O'Fee
Bren, that to me is one of the strongest arguments for separating church marriage from state marriage. I support gay marriage on a personal level because I believe in love and in families, but I also believe in equal rights under state law because I don't want someone telling me that I can't have my religious marriage because my religion is no longer the dominant religion. Your religion doesn't have to recognize things equally; the government does. For the benefit of all of us. - joey
I think that is the real problem, the concept of marriage is both linked to religion as well as to rights of partnerships. Really if there was a way that all people can have a civil ceremony that gives them the rights of partnerships then what does the religious crowd have a problem with? I could see if churches etc were forced to allow weddings of gay couples in their churches as being... more... - travispuk
I think the experience of seeing gay couples (or mixed-race couples) being married and relating to one another in real, mature relationships with mutual sacrifice and emotional support is the thing that kills the abstract arguments about the historical definition of marriage. On the one hand, there are these official marriages that may or may not involve any form of love; that may be... more... - Jim Norris
Travis, in WA state we voted on domestic partnerships rather than marriage today. The only religious people I personally know that spoke out against this (and I know several who are against marriage because of the word but are for domestic partnerships) claimed that it was the state sanctioning sin and condoning the gay lifestyle. That was the only argument I heard other than that it would lead to gay marriage. - joey
@Bren, re the Athiest Majority comment above. The problem then is that by saying the religious marriage is outlawed, then the government is undertaking religious persecution. There are far too many 'special' exceptions for religion that make it outlandish. Example, criminals are allowed to 'confess' to a priest, but that confession cannot be used against them. WTF? Religion gets away... more... - travispuk
@Joey, the whole state sanctioning sin argument is ridiculous isn't it? It is only sin in *their* religion, funny though that sin only really exists in their religion also. Sin as opposed to morals I mean, something the church do not believe can exist outside of religion and faith. - travispuk
Travis, I'm a person of faith, for the record. There is no one 'church' controlling anything. I have religious acquaintances ranging from evangelical Biblical literalists into prosperity theology to Mormons to Catholics to Anglicans to Lutherans (just for some Christian examples) to Jews to Muslims who all have different views on sin and morality and all interpret scripture and life... more... - joey
But yes, that argument is ridiculous. The state should be neutral. Your sin (and I very specifically mean that to say your business, not the business of others) is between you and G-d and whatever intermediary you choose or don't choose. - joey
Exactly. I think gay marriage represents the triumph of Marriage As Experience over Marriage As Ideology. - Jim Norris
Travis: what is a good criteria to determine when confidential discussion should be legally protected? there are some cases such as a doctor and patient, or a news source and reporter, that seem beneficial to preserve - Mike Chelen
Mike, or between spouses ;) - joey
I'm all for separating secular and religious marriage. I find it baffling that Guatemala, an essentially Catholic country, will not allow religious figures to perform legal marriages, but the US not only allows it, they are so much the norm people can't imagine it another way. Religious Guatemalans have two marriage ceremonies: a civil ceremony performed by a lawyer or city official and... more... - Shannon Jiménez
Shannon, many countries in Europe do this as well. It makes sense to me. Though we still have the issue of arguing semantics in the US. Does the state issue 'marriages' to all or domestic partnerships to all? Anyway, I actually wanted to have a separate civil and religious ceremony but it is a pain to do that here (I wanted to have a religious ceremony without a legal marriage yet but here clergy cannot do that; they are required to to fill out the paperwork as well). - joey
Joey, maybe that varies from place to place. My husband and I were legally married in Guatemala and had a Catholic ceremony here in the US (in Nevada). We never applied for a license or anything here and the priest was happy to give us a "religious" marriage certificate without signing any legal paperwork when we showed him the proof we were already married. - Shannon Jiménez
Oops, just saw that you weren't married yet (misread it). So yes, I think it is a requirement to be married legally or be going to get married legally. - Shannon Jiménez
@Mike, confidential discussion by criminals should never be legally protected, particularly when they are about confessing to a crime (More than happy about confidential discussion to legal representatives about a case etc, but I understand that even if a client confesses to a crime to a lawyer they are required to report the crime also. Might be wrong on that though). As for doctor and... more... - travispuk
@Joey, refreshing to hear from a person of faith that also believes that a person can have morals outside of faith. ;) Personally I don't hear that type of talk very often. - travispuk
@Mike, a little further on the legal protection of conversations, I have a clear difference here in that I believe that anything that relates to a criminal act (ie confession of a crime or evidence of a crime) should NEVER be protected. Also, I hate that there are these exceptions, as you point out, doctors, journalists etc. Why would it be different if say I spoke confidentially to a... more... - travispuk
I guess the discussion of protected conversations is not really on topic though. Sorry for hijacking Alex. - travispuk
tl;dr but yeah this to me shows that religion and govt are too mixed up together. If marriage is a religious thing than why is it part of the govt in the first place? If you want to protect the church the very last thing you should do is mix it with a democracy since any majority can redefine what certain ideas mean. Now marriage has been mutated and no longer carries the same christian... more... - rei yano
my friend had a marriage a couple of years ago. it was outside, the lady was licensed etc, everything was legit but not once in the entire cermony did she mention god/religion at all. (he's buddist, she didn't care either way). one day in the far future i'd like to do something similar, if the gf approves... - Terry O'Fee
another thing that I know they must be afraid of is the possibility that pastors will be forced to marry gay people which is against their beliefs and they feel it would be sinful for them to marry a gay couple. the fact is that these pastors and their churches get tax exempt status. if they want to write their own rules then it needs to be a private entity completely free of govt ties. - rei yano
Preach, brother Alex. Actually, preach everyone in this thread. - Derrick
Yet again I'm left shaking my head at my Christian brethren. This is yet another fight/debate based upon ignorance. I have never understood how anybody could think that allowing a gay person to marry another gay person has any affect on the marriage of a non-gay person. It makes no sense to me and in the grand scheme of things I think God could care less. - DB Botts - Just DB Botts
I pretty much think that people of a certain worldview see it as an assault against their Norman Rockwell vision of America. I imagine that they feel otherwise powerless to stop the tide of progress and these ballot measures give them some measure of power. - Scoble, Alex Scoble from IM
DB: wouldn't any god worth following rejoice in the love between two people? - Mike Chelen
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