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iPhone TV: Top iPhone Apps for Live Streaming Television - http://mashable.com/2009...
Albert, Garin Kilpatrick and Andrew Wilson liked this
I was just able to email myself to jowyang@friendfeed.com which sent a direct message to me here
Daniel Rowley, Kol Tregaskes, Jim Braux-Zin and 22 other people liked this
hmm what if corporate communities were able to do this?
- Jeremiah Owyang
Next question: If Friendfeed going to become an email client? It's in their DNA
- Jeremiah Owyang
Frienfeed = social inbox, including email
- Jeremiah Owyang
FriendFeed as an email client would be cool.
- Kevin Whalen
It's called Google Wave :)
- Chris Saad
aggregating IM could be next, like Meebo. Federated IDs will matter big time huh Chris?
- Jeremiah Owyang
Federated IDs and social colonization is the way to go!
- SurajLuke
To an extent - FriendFeed is an aggregation though - so by definition it creates bridges where none exist. Federated ID is useful for interoperability without aggregation
- Chris Saad
Aggregator*
- Chris Saad
SurajLuke Yup, social colonization and social aggregation.
- Jeremiah Owyang
how did you get the friendfeed email address? How/where can I get one???
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
jennifer just email "username@friendfeed.com"
- Jeremiah Owyang
holyshit dude! thats amazing! im so happy use just told me that!
- Jason Pollock
my only question about this is that friendfeed direct messages seem to have a character limit and what if someone emails something that is over their character limit?
- Jason Pollock
can anyone spell SPAM? isn't this opening up a can for spammers to DM email their crap to all friendfeeders?
- roger byrne
roger, yup, SPAM could certainly be an issue
- Jeremiah Owyang
...and that don't have to be logged into FF to do it
- Jeremiah Owyang
I thought it could only be from moderated sources... maybe not?
- Travis Koger
jeremiah: i'm curious as to why you feel it is beneficial to add yet another service that provides *less* functionality than email, yet attempts to replicate email?
- Jeremy Toeman
what about the FriendFeed character limit? that seems like the biggest issue 2 me.
- Jason Pollock
Just ran some tests. If I try to send to the username@friendfeed.com from an address that is not linked to the actual account, it sends an email back to the address that sent it saying the following: 'Your email message to FriendFeed (included below) was sent from an unauthorized email address (xxxx@xxxx.com) and requires approval. Please click on the link below to approve or reject this message.' So it appears to be moderated to me, with the sender requiring a Friendfeed account also.
- Travis Koger
why use FriendFeed rather than or in addition to a Twitter client?
fwed, De, Ho John Lee and 29 other people liked this
Why not?
- Robert Scoble
Because Twitter doesn't thread comments?
- Aaron Kurtz
better depth, better presentaion, better debate, on ff
- chaz2b
Because Twitter isn't the only website my friends use
- Jesse Hattabaugh
Jesse: exactly. Currently I like ff over a twitter client because you see a person's entire stream of activity and the conversation around it. I've been testing Seesmic Desktop (Air-based) and Sobees (.Net-based) alongside ff. Sobees imports ff pretty well but Seesmic doesn't yet. Once it does people may switch as in a lot of cases I still like to see invidual streams per service but still have ff as primary.
- David Ziembicki
because it acts as a pivot point for all my activities and friends online including twitter and facebook and ties them all together
- Taehoon Kim
Has more depth in terms of involvment in the community and no 140 letters limit.
- ashish
Threading of comments and more in-depth conversations. Less junk than on Twitter.
- William Mougayar
how about a FriendFeed client ???
- Pablo Yamamoto
Yes FriendFeed client would probably become my default app. iPhone browser pretty nice and at least I don't have to login every time I use it now.
- Dave
Rather than? Because you have more engagement here on FF than you do on Twitter, so there is no point in devoting the time and resources on an actual separate Twitter client. In addition to? Because you love FriendFeed, but there are still a whole mess of people you want to keep up with on Twitter and they aren't moving to FF any time soon.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
With the right set up, you in the end get a fuller experience. Bottom line.
- Malcolm Bastien
why use a spoon to eat soup? Cause it works!!
- Ryan Gerritsen
FF thinks
- A Mitchell
I decided to go all ff this week as I do research for an upcoming company strategy shift. I got more value out of the info people share here than most of the Google searches I did looking for news articles, etc.
- Justin Whittaker
Started thinking threading comments was better, but realize it's not as good as actually posting to Twitter. It's a lower class of participation, and not as visible to your own friends.
- Jason Catena
Jason: what??
- Robert Scoble
Jason, that statement makes no sense. Most of us are here on Friendfeed because there's far MORE visibility to your friends than on Twitter. FF shows you all of your friend's activity (comments, likes, etc.) and not just their posts. Twitter is highly fragmented and it's really difficult to keep up with a conversation there if you follow more than a very few people.
- Mistletoe Glen
Rahsheen ™ is right on the money. I agree with him 100%
- Danny Minick
Is there a simple way to Tweet an in-thread comment on FF? If not then Twitter is missing a lot of the conversation.
- John Francis
Missing a lot of the conversation is part of the Twitter experience.
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
But yes, John, if a post originated on Twitter-you can send your comment back to Twitter by selecting "Also send this comment as an @reply twitter from Your_Twitter_Name"
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
Because there's many infos, blog posts, conversations that you miss on Twitter.
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
The very first comment by Robert was on the money. Why not? Twitter and Friendfeed are not the same. They do not offer the same service or user experience. Twitter is bursts of information, short streams of conciousness if you like, it was not set up to be conversational like Friendfeed. There is no mileage in pitting one against the other, use one or both or none it's your decision, and it's up to you what you get out of either of them.
- Gilbert Harding
Rob, thanks. I've probably never commented from my desktop just iPhone so never noticed that option. Don't think iPhone UI has it.
- John Francis
from BuddyFeed
More than 140 characters. Pictures. URL's not converted to tinyurl's automatically... Why the fuck use twitter?
- LarchOye
Essentially, what Rah said. And - Twitter/FB reach a less web-savvy, tech-savvy group of friends. For us in the burbs, that familiarity gap can be significant - it's a reality check from a marketing standpoint and a touching-base with the folks who, as Robert said a year ago, won't be catching on to gf for another five.
- MaryB, BrandingBroadOfFF
Other than the fact that I can't seem to get FF to Twitter to work any more - no reason.
- Brian Sullivan
FF is just another medium where just a few people get all the comments. I have no comments on FF to the same posts (and more) as are on Twitter, where I do get replies. In addition, my comments are associated with your posts, as a second-class entity, not something that people can comment on in and of itself, and not something people can directly link. In contrast, any comment I make on Twitter can itself be replied to, and is a first-class entity which can be favorited, bookmarked, and shared.
- Jason Catena
On FF I don't have to be subscribed to all the participants to see the entire conversation. In fact, I don' have to be subscribed to any. Also FF doesn't need elaborate, third-part apps to make it usable.
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
from fftogo
On a Twitter / FriendFeed client I don't have to be subscribed to anyone either to see the conversation flow. FriendFeed does need 3rd party apps to make it so that you can iew huge amounts of FF data simultaneously.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
I use both, why? Because I can get my name farther with two services then I can with one. Plus Friendfeed allows me to comment, not with Twitter.
- Zachary TG
Because Twitter is practically topic titles, FF explodes the conversation further. I'm guessing Wave is about to either deprecate or complement both, to a large degree -- at least, for myself. But that question is just trolling, isn't it? If you really can't figure the answer out yourself, I suggest you go write "140 characters should be enough for everyone" on a blackboard until enlightened.
- Goran Zec
Totally different tools for me. Twitter "poetry" vs. "ff" prose.
- Phil Boiarski
I love how Slideshare aggregates all the presentations from cool conferences like Next09 in Hamburg: http://ow.ly/5S8s
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Network map of US Congress twitterers - http://mediaczar.com/blog...
Matt Kruse, Jesper Lind, Patrick Moorhead and 7 other people liked this
Why Are Bloggers Writing Shorter And Shorter Posts? - Web Development Blog - http://www.velvetblues.com/web-dev...
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"Have you noticed? Bloggers these days seem to be writing shorter and shorter articles, with many of the longer ones artificially inflated with images. So what’s up with this trend? And why is it starting to dominate the industry? From The Experts: Go Short and Snappy! According to the experts, readers want simple easily-digestible content, that can be quickly read or scanned. And, as Seth Godin points out on his blog, there is stiff competition online. Writing shorter posts gets your point across quickly without giving visitors a chance to leave. He states: Realize that people have choices. With 80 million other blogs to choose from, I know you could leave at any moment (see, there goes someone now). So that makes blog writing shorter and faster and more exciting. So is short the way to go? Maybe. There are indeed advantages to writing short posts which include:"
- Internet Strategist
from Bookmarklet
This is bullshit. Go back to my blog from 2004 and you will see mostly one-paragraph posts.
- Robert Scoble
People will read long well written posts, but since most of us aren't very good writers short posts do less damage to readers.
- Todd Hoff
Phrases like "seem to be" are useless. You need to have some facts to back up your assertions (which are probably true; my shorter, image-filled posts tend to get much more feedback than longer, more thoughtful ones). Without data, however, you have no thesis.
- Mistletoe Glen
depends on the blogger ~ I'd wish some would write shorter posts
- sofarsoShawn
Pretty soon, people are going to stop reading all together, because everyone is going to have ADD.
- Brad Williamson
Good points Robert and Glen. Some bloggers write almost all short posts, others mostly long researched posts, and some a mix of both. LOL @ godd and sofarsoshawn. @Glen You do know I just shared this here and that quote is from the post? I didn't write it and the person who did isn't very likely to see this here.
- Internet Strategist
we should send the dumbass these comments
- sofarsoShawn
There's a short-term traffic driving strategy: write something controversial to get lots of discussion going. Probably wouldn't pay off in the long run in this case though.
- Internet Strategist
I must have missed the memo :) My take is as long as it needs to be to tell the story. Yours?
- Valeria Maltoni
The only reason one has to consider such things is if the goal is pageviews/ $. Otherwise, it is a non-issue.
- coldbrew
yeah right...so how many blogs did you look at???
- Rob Sellen :o)
I think it's a mix of $$$ and laziness too
- Bibi
Some people today have extremely short attention spans and just skim through valuable content. Because they don't have time or because there's just a LOT of content they're following. So maybe [some] bloggers are writing shorter posts to hold this group's attention? Just my guess. But to me, it's not about the length, but about the quality.
- deepikaur
The length of the post depends on the depth of the content you're posting. The masses probably DO prefer short, simple content. Thinkers know that exceptional results require more detail. You'll see the same thing with the number of posts someone reads. Drive a bunch of traffic from Twitter and your bounce numbers will go up to around 70%. When someone is researching they'll read far more posts at one time.
- Internet Strategist
test.... too many assumptions. :o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
Why not?
- Sean
Data on the subject would be interesting. Intuitively, I would assume the rules of traffic generation lead to short posts because (and this is my feeling with no data) traffic is generated by: outrageous claims, single undeveloped interesting ideas, inflammatory posts, and quick reads (top X lists). All of those tend to lead to shorter posts. Again, real data would be fascinating.
- mikepk
Personally I would rather ready shorter blogs, just because of the limited amount of time I have to put into reading all the post that come into my RSS reader.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
Two other points, I don't think it's laziness... getting traffic is hard work. Also I don't know if this would hold for all bloggers, since the end goal of most is not necessarily generating raw traffic numbers.
- mikepk
Every time John Resig finishes a sentence, my mind explodes. If your feeds don't challenge you like this with every post, unsub. You are doing yourself a disservice by subbing stuff that doesn't enthrall you!
- mjc
as someone who tends to write long posts on WinExtra it is often really hard to write the shorter format on The Inquisitr. They both have their value but I think it is partly to do with your target audience. That sid I have tried to write shorter posts on WinExtra but it's hard when the ideas just keep flowing. Are we suppose to just shut up because of a fear of alienating readers with a growing lack of attention?
- Steven Hodson
Yowza, I now have 15,000 things in my http://friendfeed.com/scoblei... likes database. I am addicted to great stuff! Thank you!
Thomas Hawk, Rob Brammeld, Palak Mathur and 15 other people liked this
I can't wait to do more with this database.
- Robert Scoble
How do you organize and find stuff you are looking for?
- Amani
I don't organize. That is what search is for.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, you will be perhaps the first to manipulate and extract value from a large FF database, congrats!
- Jeremy Campbell
from twhirl
Please share what statistics, categories, niches, your organization produces.
- Jeremy Campbell
from twhirl
It is amazing to me that these were collected in 11 months. Shows the incredible flow going on.
- Robert Scoble
That means your likes/month ratio is about 3x mine. I wonder if the dataset of what you see and read is also 3x higher.
- Louis Gray
Robert- I understand how search is effective, but don't you find that searching can be a little difficult to find what you are looking for at times? Unless there are some tips you can share regarding search (if you haven't already). :)
- Amani
Robert, how much overlap is there for you between Google Reader and FF? Or have you added those RSS feeds to FF so you can start discussions better?
- Jim Bergman
Jim: I am using Google Reader less and less.
- Robert Scoble
I find I'm using GR less and less at the expense of FriendFeed and Twitter. for the most part I only use it on my Blackberry now.
- Greg Gannicott
RT @jayrosen_nyu: "There is no such thing as information overload, only filter failure." Clay Shirky interviewed by CJR http://www.cjr.org/overloa...
Marcel Weiß, Kris Kowal, esther and 3 other people liked this
New(ish) blog post on how Obama's design is a lesson in simplicity - something to keep in mind! www.voxinc.com/blog
Andrew Wilson liked this
i could be wrong but im guessing mcdonalds has a huge excess supply of mcnuggets with all the commercials they are running
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Santa's inbox
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Hahaha...Awesome...
- Matt
Why Use FriendFeed? You Could Exchange Messages Directly with Robert Scoble. - http://www.growmap.com/robert-...
April Russo (app103), VC Freak, Andrew Wilson and 15 other people liked this
True! Sometimes. :-) Only when I'm online and watching.
- Robert Scoble
I'm glad you liked it
- Internet Strategist
That's right, that 43 seconds a day when he is offline... it's a ghost town :P
- Johnny Worthington
so... contrary to popular belief... Scoble isn't plugged into the matrix 24/7
- Enrique Gutierrez
from twhirl
Johnny: well, tomorrow I'll be in planes for 14 hours. So, you all will have a great weekend! :-)
- Robert Scoble
Seriously Robert... how is your Frequent Flyer miles looking :P You sir, are a machine
- Johnny Worthington
Johnny: 125,000 on United. That's about 4x too many.
- Robert Scoble
125k... woah! Nice work mate
- Mo Kargas
Not flying Virgin with that Wifi goodness then? :)
- Matt Harwood
Matt: nope. I was on SAS once with Wifi. The thing cost $30 but my battery only lasted 2 hours. I really enjoy being offline. I use the time to catch up on email.
- Robert Scoble
I know you're not always here, but the odds here are pretty good versus other places. Try catching most users online at StumbleUpon or easily getting you to follow us at Twitter. Because of your Tweet I found all these other sharp people here much faster than I would have found them at Twitter.
- Internet Strategist
Email is your plan for offline time? Whoah, you're more plugged in than I thought Robert! :)
- Matt Harwood
May it should be ScobleFeed
- Aad 't Hart
Why follow Scoble and his friends ? Just tap into the river that is the 'Everyone' torrent for much the same effect :-)
- Andy C
Great idea Andy. I found the everyone link. Now if I only have the patience to find something worth following (hence, why I was happy to exchange messages with Robert and Friends).
- Internet Strategist
I would also recommend joining different rooms that mirror your general life/work interests. I have met lots of good FF'ers that way too.
- Amani
Thanks Amani. I already joined the FriendFeed Feedback and Social Media rooms. If you have other suggestions I'm all ears.
- Internet Strategist
US-POLITICS-INDIA-ATTACKS-BUSH - http://flickrfan.files.wordpress.com/2008...
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As just a picture (the sterile picture it is) without text, this has no meaning or context.
- Robert Miller
Sure, and the data is there, FF isn't displaying it. Please ask them to find a way of showing you the RSS <description> element. Its been there since 1999, it's in no way an innovation. This is called FriendFeed not FriendSterileStuffWithNoContext. :-)
- Dave Winer
Agree Dave. They should do the same for all pics coming from Flickr, Zoomr, Picasa, and other photo feeds. I inject lots of meta into my pics and it would be great to see desc, tags, geoloc info, etc exposed in FF. I prefer things in my stream to be overflowing with (meta)data. Why hide the meta when its sitting there right beneath the surface.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Robert -- I'm not going to do it. I made this request repeatedly in May and June when I was working on the same problem for NewsJunk. I don't know what they did with the requests, and honestly -- it shouldn't have been necessary to make the request, because this is about feeds, and description is one of the most basic feed elements.
- Dave Winer
Further it's a lot of work to set up an API connection for a feed, and it has to be maintained, last time it was kind of interesting, cause I hadn't played with the API. But this is exactly the kind of thing they should be doing on their end, to gain leverage for everyone. And maybe other people aren't programmers but have feeds? They need to do this, and if I fix it on my end now, they have no incentive to do it. Or maybe they don't want the content. Clear choice.
- Dave Winer
Understood.
- Robert Miller
Aside from all that, I think the picture is pretty interesting even without the description. Let your mind wander for a nanosecond. Bing. You figured it out. No mystery to what's going on in that pic. No surprises.
- Dave Winer
7 Videos About Social Media You Need to Watch - http://leftthebox.com/archive...
David Bisset (sn), Ahmed and Andrew Wilson liked this
My micro-community is better than your social network - http://thesocialnetworker.com/tsn...
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neener neener neener! :P
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
Michael Kinsley asks "How many blogs does the world need?" http://www.time.com/time...
Andrew Wilson, Dave Martin, brian junyor and 3 other people liked this
That question is missing the point entirely.
- Adam Singer
When anyone asks a question about blogs, try substituting phones and see if the question still makes sense. I have two phones, at times I've had more. I have one blog right now, but again, at times I've had more. It's almost like asking how many word processing documents or spreadsheets does the world need?
- Dave Winer
How many Kinsleys does the world need? I'm sure some think he's indispensable. For others, he's an idiot with dumb questions
- @baratunde
Each of us thinks of this as "our" world.
- Phil Boiarski
Millions.
- Igor Poltavskiy
Old media guy completely misunderstands new media.
- Sean McBride
iPod Touch Cake - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
Shevonne, Bob Gannon, Andrew Wilson and 13 other people liked this
I've turned into such an iPhone/iTouch fangirl. I'm so ashamed, but I can't repent. How did this happen?
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Just asked a PR person why she pitched me without having read my blog. Her response is telling: "We don’t have the time to read everyone’s blog – your description says 'Person is a blogger who writes about social media' and when we see that, it is what fits our category – just so you know, I don’t pitch everyone who comes up directly under social...
Richard Binhammer, Kevin Dugan, Ontario Emperor and 6 other people liked this
If they don't have time to read your blog before pitching, it's ok for you not to have time to accept their pitch.
- David August
I'd say that is what I would call a half assed job and a half assed response to boot. I'm curious, what was she pitching?
- Mary Wehrle
@Mary: Wanted me to talk with the CEO of one of the Tech Crunch 50 companies.
- Bryan Person
Now you know why I consider pitches from PR people to be practically spam. I've been a tech journalist for almost 20 years and that attitude has been consistent the whole time. In my experience, PR people just blast out their announcements as widely and thoughtlessly as they can. The exceptions are so few as to be statistically insignificant.
- Mitch Wagner
I keep all pitches, and then eventually post them on Tumblr. I need to step that up - maybe I should have stayed in LA for Thanksgiving!
- Jeremy Pepper
@Mitch: It's the pray-and-spray approach. Fortunately, not all PR people are lazy and not all pitches are bad.
- Bryan Person
@Jeremy: Would love to check out that Tumblr blog. What's the URL?
- Bryan Person
The scary part is that there's a chance that same PR hack might have pitched me instead of Person, which would have been a disastrous mistake on the PR hack's part.
- Ontario Emperor
Some good comments on the lazy pitch on my blog, too: http://bryanperson.com/2008...
- Bryan Person
She is noteworthy in the fact that she spoke with you. When I challenge people, they ignore me. But they might be scared they'll wind up on Bad Pitch. They do not understand that responding to questions like wtf is the smartest thing they could do, IMHO.
- Kevin Dugan
Kevin: I agree that it was good of her to answer. In fact, I occasionally do find that when I challenge the PR folks as I did with this person, it sometimes leads to constructive dialogue. In one case, I became Twitter pals with one of the pitchers.
- Bryan Person
Fuser, social media messaging http://m.kyte.tv/show...
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Oops, I set up an account and then didn't get back to it. Need to try again.
- Kevin Gamble
Chrome not supported - oops
- Jan Dawson
Jan; is that really an opps?
- Roberto Bonini
depends on what you're asking Roberto - they're up front about it, but I'd say with the crowd they're targeting I'm bound not to be the only one using Chrome
- Jan Dawson
Palm-Sized Projector from Optoma - http://www.optoma.co.uk/Pico...
Tom Stocky, vijay, Ryan Petty and 24 other people liked this
20,000 hour lamp life, 60" at 2.6 meters, probably around $400USD
- mjc
from Bookmarklet
So, we could hook this up to our mobiles, then watch a movie embiggened? Sweet.
- Admiral Anika
yes indeed Anika, and it will even use the laptop's battery via mini-USB so you don't need an extra power plug! It's not HD, though, I suspect someone looking for a projector of this size doesn't care too much about quality.
- mjc
also works with ipods and probably with the iphone.
- mjc
I played with a Chinese version of this and they are awesome. Pretty amazing technology. The light is via LEDs, too, so uses very little power.
- Robert Scoble
want!!
- Susan Beebe
one more thing for traveling sales executives to accidentally leave in their hotel room, then come begging for another one
- Neil Bernhart
Personally, I don't care about the HD capabilities, but my husband is an unrealistic WATB about these things. I've already had to hear his rants on lack of HD on his media player and cell phone. Dork.
- Admiral Anika
Can we fast forward to the part where this comes with the phone already? Thanks.
- Jay Cuthrell
Anika - haha I had to urban dictionary that
- mjc
Why do I want to project Pico's?
- Paul W. Swansen
lol paul
- mjc
I can't wait until things like that will be built into smartphones or UMPCs.
- andrei_c
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